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UFO Whistleblower David Grusch Reveals Recovered Crafts_ Reptilian Aliens_ and Other Sub-Types(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan experience. So you have some sort of
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  Speaker 1: plasma-based intelligence. Yeah. And then what else?
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  Speaker 2: So obviously there has been the physical craft of all
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  Speaker 2: different flavors, like I've talked about it. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: Tic Tacs are real.
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  Speaker 1: There's eggs.
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  Speaker 2: There's different types of discs. There's boot heel, sunfish-looking things. Boomerangs,
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  Speaker 2: crescent moon-looking craft as well. And obviously all those have different...
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  Speaker 2: origins in terms of pilots and whatnot. There's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of overlap. It's almost like certain people like the
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  Speaker 2: Porsche 911 or a Ford Mustang. They kind of build
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  Speaker 2: the same shape. And that's probably indicative of the technology
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  Speaker 2: or the propulsion system. I'm not an expert in exactly
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  Speaker 2: why that is. And yeah, we've recovered several different types.
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  Speaker 2: And once again, it's a taxonomy where it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: Like not all white people look the same, right? Same
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  Speaker 2: idea where you might have like a species per se,
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  Speaker 2: but then there's sort of like subsets. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, is there a theory or is there information based
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  Speaker 1: on where these things are from and that they're different
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  Speaker 1: ones are from different places?
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  Speaker 2: There is, but I never got access to that. And
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  Speaker 2: even if the information was... Once again, how would you like...
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  Speaker 2: confirm that as a skeptical former human intelligence officer. You
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  Speaker 2: have some sort of NHI communicating to you, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 2: from star system X, Y, and Z.
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  Speaker 1: Cool.
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  Speaker 2: Is that denial and deception? Activities? Are you misdirecting? You're
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  Speaker 2: from somewhere else. So even if they said, they told us,
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  Speaker 2: how would you verify that? I mean, there's certainly obviously ways.
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  Speaker 2: But some of it seems, once again, extraterrestrial is part
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  Speaker 2: of the pie here, right? There's a, you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: ultra terrestrial and other things. And I, it does seem
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  Speaker 2: like a lot of it's been here for a while
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  Speaker 2: and also seems so similar to us that I have questions.
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  Speaker 2: And once again, this isn't rhetorical. I don't know the answer.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, is this bioengineered? Is this a break
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  Speaker 2: from our tree? Is this some sort of other technology,
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  Speaker 2: like chameleon type technology, if you will? I don't, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that. So I think that's.
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  Speaker 1: What are the prevailing theories amongst the people that are
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  Speaker 1: working on this? Yeah. So like, do they have answers
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  Speaker 1: or do they just have theories?
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  Speaker 2: I am not certain of that because I do not
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  Speaker 2: have that level of knowledge. And as the government rolls
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  Speaker 2: that out, I'm happy to, you know, parse that with
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  Speaker 2: the American people in public and kind of explain my
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  Speaker 2: opinion on things as gaps in information for myself is
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  Speaker 2: filled in. Cause I, I'm not omnipotent. I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: full access. And I only know what I know. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why I've treated this with such reverence because even
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  Speaker 2: me going public, I'm like, fuck, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: this is going to trigger. Besides my own personal safety,
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  Speaker 2: which clearly I was under duress and I had to
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  Speaker 2: even resign my Air Force commission, didn't even fully retire.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm trying to get that fixed. I filed something
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  Speaker 2: with the Air Force board a year ago so I
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  Speaker 2: can actually retire and have my benefits because I miss
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  Speaker 2: my promotional lieutenant colonel and other stuff. But Um, I digress,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly there is such similarity that there was a
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  Speaker 2: concern and, uh, from a genomic perspective and there was
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  Speaker 2: work on that to compare genomes. Unfortunately, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: the answer to that and what they found out.
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  Speaker 1: Work to compare genomes from biological samples. Uh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Dead cadavers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's real.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, a hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: So there are dead.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know that for sure?
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  Speaker 2: I got to see the audiovisual on that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You got to see what? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I got to be a little vague only because
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  Speaker 2: I want to protect the sources because it may indicate
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  Speaker 2: a specific activity or operation. And these people were very
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  Speaker 2: patriotic and they were just dead cadavers on the ground
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  Speaker 2: because it was a retrieval activity.
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  Speaker 1: You saw them physically or you saw video of them?
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  Speaker 2: Video.
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  Speaker 1: Video.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So you saw... dead cadaver that was at a crash
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  Speaker 1: yes so they filmed the crash and they filmed these
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  Speaker 1: cadavers how old is this footage i don't want to
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  Speaker 1: say okay it's contemporary but i it's contemporary yeah but
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  Speaker 1: i don't want to reveal a particular operation because it
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  Speaker 1: narrows it down right but it's clear it's not like
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  Speaker 1: you're looking at 1950s black and white yeah it's clear.
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  Speaker 2: And do know you know when I get that kind
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  Speaker 2: of information, you know, I'm like, Hey, tell me what
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  Speaker 2: it is, what, what happened? And I put it out
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  Speaker 2: for collection, so to speak. And then I confirm it
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  Speaker 2: independently because I was very allergic to any kind of deception, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like in the, in the advent of AI store AI,
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  Speaker 2: you can, you can create a very realistic. And so
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  Speaker 2: I was very anal retentive when I was given documents, audio, visual,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. And I sat on that stuff for like
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  Speaker 2: years until I felt comfortable. With that not being some
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  Speaker 2: sort of limited hangout or deception activity.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah. What did it look like? Human. Looking. How human? Very. Like,
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  Speaker 1: looked like a human or looked similar to a human?
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  Speaker 2: Very, very beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: And I said this.
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  Speaker 1: What color was the skin? Bluish white. Like Avatar? It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't super close.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Like someone who drowned?
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  Speaker 2: Like a pale sort of albino. And, and it's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And I said this in another interview, that's not out yet, but, and,
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  Speaker 2: and God willing, this is my last interview for a while,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully in predisclosure environment, you know, and, uh, uh, general McCaslin,
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  Speaker 2: when he was talking to DeLong and this is public record,
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  Speaker 2: Tom's talked about it on, I think your show and
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  Speaker 2: other interviews where he always told Tom, think of the
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  Speaker 2: Greek gods and, and, Oh, true. You look it up.
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  Speaker 2: And now I kind of understand what he meant. But
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  Speaker 2: General McCaslin, who disappeared within a week of Trump giving
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  Speaker 2: the declassification order on UAP in February 2026. There's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of reasons why McCaslin's disappearance was very concerning. He
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  Speaker 2: walked out of his residence in Albuquerque and vanished.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. That guy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody knows. And I, you know, I have a relationship, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: with Justice and nobody knows what fucking happened to the guy.
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  Speaker 2: And he like, he left shit home so he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: be tracked. I think his phone was left, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of his firearms was missing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like very weird. So.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He left without his phone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was one of the weird parts about it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, and once again, he was going on a trip
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  Speaker 2: with like 18 of his friends. He went to REI
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  Speaker 2: the day before to get like a medical kit and
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  Speaker 2: other supplies. And I mean, obviously his wife's, Discussion about him.
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  Speaker 2: The body cam footage is public. And, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: had some mental health issues, nothing major and some aging
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  Speaker 2: type issues.
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  Speaker 1: But she didn't think, you know, he.
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  Speaker 2: Was going to like kill himself or whatever. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you never know. And I've had friends, unfortunately, pass away
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  Speaker 2: through suicide in the military. But it's very bizarre. And
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  Speaker 2: it's when within a week of Trump coming out. And
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  Speaker 2: just say I know a lot about General McCaslin.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's quite a few scientists that were connected to
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  Speaker 1: UAP disclosure or UAP potential back engineering projects or mysterious projects.
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  Speaker 2: Possibly.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there was more like... To be fair,
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  Speaker 2: it was a little overblown. And I don't think there
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  Speaker 2: was a ton of correlation. Like one was like a
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  Speaker 2: female that worked at Air Force Research Lab when McCaslin
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  Speaker 2: was a commander. I think that was one of them. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of people that work at
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  Speaker 2: Air Force Research Lab. That doesn't mean it's necessarily related
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  Speaker 2: to the topic. I.
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  Speaker 1: But didn't that one particular lady, if it's the same person,
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  Speaker 1: didn't she have some sort of research that was on
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  Speaker 1: material science?
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  Speaker 2: That sounds correct. I'm not totally conversant on all the
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  Speaker 2: people that disappeared. The only one besides McCaslin that was
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  Speaker 2: very concerning to me was my Air Force friend that
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  Speaker 2: died mysteriously about two years ago. And... it's an open investigation,
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  Speaker 2: so I won't get into all the gory detail in
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  Speaker 2: my assessments. I mean, it's binary. It's either a very
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  Speaker 2: tragic thing, either self-harm or otherwise, or it was something else.
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  Speaker 2: And my friend, his name's Matthew Sullivan, callsign Quake in
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  Speaker 2: the Air Force. Him and I were on active duty together.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the program. And he was one of
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  Speaker 2: my sources. And I, once again, I don't name people,
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  Speaker 2: but like, he unfortunately has passed, so I want to
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  Speaker 2: make that clear.
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  Speaker 1: This video, do you think this will be a part
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  Speaker 1: of disclosure that we'll get to see this video of
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  Speaker 1: these dead bodies?
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  Speaker 2: Probably, probably. So there's a, so there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: audio visual stuff. The problem with the, the, with the
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  Speaker 2: current climate, like you're going to have to wheel out
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  Speaker 2: the physical evidence too, because people are, the trust in
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  Speaker 2: government is so low right now. Like you could, you could,
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  Speaker 2: Show a video that people are going to be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's just the U.S. government fucking with us. And you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to course curate a wheel out, literally like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, put it in the Uvar Hazy Center, the Smithsonian,
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  Speaker 2: and then give the biological samples to Eric Weinstein, who
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  Speaker 2: I know he wants it.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you give it to him?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he says he has people to test it.
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  Speaker 1: I have people to test it too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Give it to me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that to– It's all ridiculous. Give it
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  Speaker 2: to who?
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  Speaker 1: There should be a way that human beings other than
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  Speaker 1: the government can look at this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there needs to be an independent verification process.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. is this stuff– so this is contemporary, this
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  Speaker 1: dead body thing. And so this is a fairly recent crash.
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  Speaker 1: And did these things have all the characteristics of a
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  Speaker 1: human being? Did they have ears and a nose?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as I can recall– And it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: like ultra close up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Dead hair. What color was the hair?
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  Speaker 2: It was like grayish and all that. It was, the
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  Speaker 2: problem is, I don't want to give the nature of
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  Speaker 2: the video. It wasn't super close up. It was like.
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  Speaker 1: Of course not.
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  Speaker 2: During the operation. So it's not like.
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  Speaker 1: During the operation of retrieval. Yeah. Okay. And then they,
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  Speaker 1: they had these things. So what is your understanding of
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  Speaker 1: what happens to these bodies?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they're kept for analysis.
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  Speaker 1: And how do they keep them? They freeze them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know the exact process. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a biologist, but they do put it in some sort
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  Speaker 2: of preservation status. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So was that the most compelling thing you saw? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Cause you know, it couples with, you know, both the
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  Speaker 2: craft and the alleged, you know, occupants and There was
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  Speaker 2: some other stuff in that area that I got to
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  Speaker 2: be careful talking about because it's so specific that it'll
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  Speaker 2: easily ID the patriot that helped me on that. And
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  Speaker 2: once again, I want the public to see all this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Don't take my word for it. Plead with the president
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  Speaker 2: to make sure this comes out. He's really courageous to
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  Speaker 2: do so, and I hope this all comes out.
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  Speaker 1: When you say contemporary, you mean last 20 years, more recent?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want to characterize it, but it's contemporary.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you say Greek gods, do these creatures
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  Speaker 1: actually look like something special? Not just like a regular person.
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  Speaker 1: You said beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just very oddly. And it's been a while, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to visualize in my mind. It was
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  Speaker 2: just very, very beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Were they wearing an outfit?
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  Speaker 2: It looked like it, like some kind of form-fitting thing,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't get a good look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Like spandex? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get a good look at it, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't? No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was like a pan.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So they didn't even focus on the bodies? They
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  Speaker 1: just said, oh, there's a body.
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  Speaker 2: No, because people had a job to do.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Did you worry that that's a psyop, that you're
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  Speaker 1: being shown something that's horseshit?
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  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I was very careful with that
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  Speaker 2: and confirmed it through other sources and methods to make sure.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't some sort of hangout from some government element
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  Speaker 2: trying to sway me.
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  Speaker 1: One way or the other. So you independently verified that
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  Speaker 1: there was an event? Yeah, I did. Okay. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's footage of this event. And in this footage of
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  Speaker 1: this event, how many bodies were there?
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  Speaker 2: I think three or four is what I saw. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the total was.
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  Speaker 1: Did they have gender?
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  Speaker 2: Looked amorphous to me, but once again, it was a pan.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Okay. Long hair, short hair? Long. All of them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That I can recall. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Greek gods thing is very weird. It's weird and–
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  Speaker 1: It's a weird comparison. Like you stop and think about that. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: why were the Greek gods so beautiful and living in
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  Speaker 1: the sky?
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  Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because like I think about
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  Speaker 2: like breakaway human. I mean once again, I'm just.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe even an original civilization that existed before. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's more people are leaning in that direction when they
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  Speaker 1: start looking at some of the stuff that's underneath the pyramids. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: some of the weird structures that they're finding all over
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  Speaker 1: the earth. Like how, how are these things? We had
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  Speaker 1: a whole podcast yesterday about it. It's like, how are
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  Speaker 1: these things made? Who made these things? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I followed Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson
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  Speaker 2: just casually. And, and I do have, um, not fears, but, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I have questions about some sort of breakaway
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  Speaker 2: human civilization and that explains some of this or it's bioengineered.
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  Speaker 2: Cause like for them to develop naturally, uh, say, off-planet,
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  Speaker 2: say it was extraterrestrial, that it looks almost dead ringer
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  Speaker 2: like us. That doesn't make any sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, does it make sense if we're engineered? Then it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: That is certainly a possibility. I have questions about that too.
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  Speaker 1: This is what Bob Lazar believes. I had a long
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  Speaker 1: conversation with him about that. He thinks that human beings
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  Speaker 1: are a product of genetic, some sort of manipulation.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, hypothetically, if that ended up being verified
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  Speaker 2: in some way, shape, or form. How does that change humanity?
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  Speaker 2: What does it mean to be human? And I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of deep human sovereignty and other questions
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  Speaker 2: on that if that ends up being the case.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it gets weird because we're willing to believe that
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  Speaker 1: an omnipotent God created us out of nothing. That's cool.
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  Speaker 1: But the idea that we were visited by what's essentially
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  Speaker 1: almost God-like in their powers and abilities, some creature from
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else, Or some being, some super hyper-intelligent being from
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else. And they manipulated us. That bothers us. I know.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird.
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  Speaker 2: My biggest regret was not getting access to, like, the
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  Speaker 2: biological assessment reports and stuff like that. I was getting
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  Speaker 2: enough spears thrown my way and I was, you know,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: in literal danger. So I unfortunately wasn't able to kind of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, get access to that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Have you talked to anybody who did get access to it? Um.
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  Speaker 2: Not on that side of the program in terms of
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  Speaker 2: like the scientists analyzing the bodies. No, I just, I
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  Speaker 2: know people that are good friends of mine that were
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  Speaker 2: on retrievals and saw them as well in person. And
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  Speaker 2: once again, I'm like comparing like, did you look like this?
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  Speaker 2: Did this happen? Was it this type of craft?
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  Speaker 1: Do they vary in terms of what they saw? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And some of my colleagues saw them alive as well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And what did they see alive? Like the Greek God
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  Speaker 1: looking ones? No.
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  Speaker 2: It's the pop culture. I can't wait to talk about this.
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  Speaker 2: The pop culture is reptilian looking.
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  Speaker 1: Reptilian.
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  Speaker 2: The grays, yes, as well. Those are real. Once again,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the aerial school phenomenon in 1994, very well documented mass sighting.
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  Speaker 1: Is that Zimbabwe? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Near a uranium mine. Ooh. And they saw small gray
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  Speaker 2: beings coming out of a lenticular disc craft. Once again,
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  Speaker 2: this is why it's almost like not that shocking. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: they look like that no shit well that.
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  Speaker 1: Story has been going on for a long time and
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  Speaker 1: that iconic the problem with like iconic imagery is that
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: now you have it in your head what to expect
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: and like that was like from the movie contact remember
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  Speaker 1: the movie contact like it showed.
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  Speaker 2: Itself great movie great movie i know my boy amar
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: i got him hooked on that movie he watches it
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: like every quarter It's a phenomenal movie.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: But there's a scene in the movie where the alien
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: shows itself as Jodie Foster's dad.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Because that's something that she can handle.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: And that's what– it's funny you say that. That's what–
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: if they're bioengineered, then that makes sense because of that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Ease of contact, ease of communication, also less ontologically shocking.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: It's familiar.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: And I think as this rolls out, I think the
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: American people need to think about like, okay, well– if,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm presented with this reality, how would I react?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I, I just think of them personally as like,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: it's like my West Virginian cousins, you know, it's like
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: a different part of the family, you know, but, but
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I'm cool with them. And, uh, I'll chill with them,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you know, whatever. And Hey, I'm a nerd. Like, do
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: you know how bad I want to just like hang
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: out with them? Oh yeah.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Me too. Like that. Of course.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Not that I have like, uh, personal bias for president
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Trump to do this, but like, just like any American,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I like, I want to know more.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I want to meet them. I want to communicate.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's just, it's wrong for some people
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to have access to this information because I, I think
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: this is different than any other kind of secret information.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's weight and it's significance and impact on
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the human race in general. I, I mean, I demand.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: We should know. There shouldn't be a group of unelected
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: bureaucrats and defense contractors that have access to this stuff,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and the general public doesn't. So they have a completely
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: different map of the world than we do.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I know, and I just think about... unfortunate lies and
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: how society has progressed over the last several decades and
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: where we could have been if this was handled back
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: And once again, it shouldn't even be me doing this. Like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I saw a little bit of crazy shit. I learned
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: some stuff. I met with some of the most senior
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: people in government to confirm all this, you know, at
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the highest, highest, highest level. And it's me. Like, I'm
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: just a dude. Like, I was a, you know, major
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: in the Air Force and, you know... mid-level senior civilian
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: in the IC. But unfortunately, I got stuck with this
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and it wouldn't have happened unless the small crew, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: honestly pushed me over the edge. And, you know, I
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: was in unbelievable duress and I ended up having to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: go public.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So tell me more about these reptilians that your friend encountered.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: They were alive. Yeah. So they were alive post-crash? Yes.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Why do these things keep fucking crashing?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So some of it is.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: NHI versus NHI.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: What? Yeah. They war in the sky. Isn't that in the.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You think it's like, would they get along? They're so advanced.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But we have records of them fucking around with each other.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Is that in the Mahabharata or the Bhagavad Gita? I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: don't know. There's like talk about sky wars in ancient
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Hindu texts. Oh, yeah.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: In the Vedic texts, the blue people. And I know
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that's why you asked blue. I don't recall them being
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: that blue, but you know. I got a short little look.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: When they're alive, they're darker.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Well, that is true. There's like a post-mortem change in
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: their affect.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Sure, like people. That's what happens with people.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: That is true because, you know, as they were struggling
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and then died, obviously their affect changed.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Now, this friend that encountered, first of all, we'll go
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to the Greek god people first. What did their craft
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: look like?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Boomerang, Crescent Moon, usually. Not all the time. It's kind
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of like once I go back, some people like to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: drive the Porsche 911. That tends to be not all
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the time, but that's what they like to roll up in.