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Diogenes Club | E3 - Welcome to the Club, with the Opinionated Ogre · Diogenes Club

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  what is going on everyone we've devolved a little bit before
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  the show even begin
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  bye as my wife leaves perfect timing to begin a show um we
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  devolved before the show
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  welcome everyone to the diogenes club i'm nick pero not your
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  dad uh i'm joined by
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  SPEAKER_00: my good friend walter ryan who's our level 36 magic user
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  dr eric lulove um our resident physician and evan fields uh
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  from i just put my
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  social you got to get a funnier one for today for this show so
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  that people know and
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  we're joined by our first guest and a special guest for us
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  today is the opinionated
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  ogre welcome my friend how are you brother how is everyone
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  today everybody's good
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  SPEAKER_00: We were devolving before the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Eric, what did you want to talk about?
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  SPEAKER_03: In a non-unmestual way, actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: What did you want to talk about?
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  SPEAKER_00: I heard you wanted to talk about a certain Michael.
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  oh oh yes michael colonitis yeah yeah he's not going to be in
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  our audience today
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  probably not yeah he he might he might he's losing subscribers
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  like nobody's
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  business oh man he's got i haven't checked his pages what's he
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  down to he's down to
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  SPEAKER_00: like 75 now or something um
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  he he was at i think he was at 90 at one point yeah um yeah
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  yeah he had like 90 000
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  subs and over the weekend since sunday he's gone down to like
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  75 which is that's a
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  SPEAKER_00: star impressive like that's good that's a good start i ain't mad
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're getting there.
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  SPEAKER_03: I lose 15 in a day, and I'm like, ah!
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  SPEAKER_01: What did I do?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, what did I say?
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  SPEAKER_03: He knows what he did.
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  SPEAKER_03: Who did I insult today?
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  SPEAKER_03: He knows what he did.
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  SPEAKER_03: He knows what he did.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know what you did!
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  SPEAKER_00: We know what you did last summer, Michael Cohen.
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  SPEAKER_00: We know what you did.
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  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't just last summer, Nick.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the 14 summers before that when you worked for Donald Trump.
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  SPEAKER_01: Did you guys see Lev's live yesterday with Tara Palmieri?
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  SPEAKER_01: That was epic.
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  And he was saying Lev was saying that Cohen's been looking for
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  pardons like this year.
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  SPEAKER_01: That explains the whole flip.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, they tried to pressure me and everything.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: What a dirtbag.
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  The epic part about yesterday's podcast or the live was that in
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  the middle of the
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  SPEAKER_03: podcast,
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  SPEAKER_03: like,
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  SPEAKER_03: she's texting George Sanders.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, have you met Michael Cohen?
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  SPEAKER_03: And then she's texting Mike.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Lev's like, nope, nope.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here's the text message.
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  SPEAKER_03: I got the receipts.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: These guys are nuts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Crazy stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's real deal inside Access, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: She does not play around.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's in it.
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  She had that traditional career where she was telling me that
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  she started out as a
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  production assistant at CNN getting coffee for Jake Tapper and
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  Don Lemon and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now she's like...
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  SPEAKER_01: the epicenter of it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: She's got access to everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just,
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  it's cool to see there's women doing incredible things with
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  that story and stuff
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  SPEAKER_01: right now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Her and Ellie Leonard.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just, it's cool to see like people holding people accountable.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: I know you've been talking about that a lot lately, Nick.
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  yeah yeah and so i wanted to like accountability and like that
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  just idea i also
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  want to get walter um in here at some point after we let ogre
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  go is walter you have
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  a story about the diogenes club name um that i definitely want
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  to hear um before we
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  never knows it but yeah do you want me to go first do you want
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  to do ogre first i
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  SPEAKER_00: want to let ogre come in here we he's
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  SPEAKER_00: He's got some angry eyebrows about Michael.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think you've got some thoughts on Michael, and I'd like to hear him.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was weird.
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  SPEAKER_03: All right, so here's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have never, ever, and I can honestly say this, I've never, ever,
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  paid to paid attention to Michael Cohen and the reason I didn't
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  pay attention to
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  him is because he was always a scumbag right he was a scumbag
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  working for Trump and
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  he was a scumbag after and the reason I didn't like you know I
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  didn't run around
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  going oh you can't trust me can't trust him is because I
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  figured you know what
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  SPEAKER_03: He's really, really mad at Trump, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Trump fucked him over.
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  SPEAKER_03: And, you know, I'm a big fan of pettiness, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: I am the mayor of Pettysville.
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  SPEAKER_03: The mayor of Pettysville right here.
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  SPEAKER_03: I am a petty, petty fucking person.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I was like, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_03: He's still a scumbag and he's done a lot of scummy things in his life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And maybe he's just living out his petty fantasy.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know what?
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  SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
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  SPEAKER_03: Vengeance.
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  SPEAKER_03: Vengeance will get people to do stuff.
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  SPEAKER_03: But he never produced receipts, enough of them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I'm not good.
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  hearing enough of like you know the dirt and if he's not gonna
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  dish the dirt then
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  what is he doing exactly and i was never really comfortable so
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  i never really i
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  could immediately stop paying attention because like i know he
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  knows shit about a
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  lot of the people around trump and he never said anything it
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  was like then i don't
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  SPEAKER_03: trust him and i know that's a problem with a lot of the people
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, that, you know, they turned on Trump.
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  SPEAKER_03: They don't dish the stuff that they have.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, I can't really trust you if you're not willing.
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  If you're not willing to do everything you can to destroy these
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  fascist fucks.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Even if it hurts you in the process, then I can't.
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  really trust you so i never really paid attention to him and i
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  was i didn't even
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  know what was going on i had to go find out it's like why is
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  everyone like suddenly
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  burning the bridges with him and i was utterly unsurprised yeah
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  that he suddenly
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  started sucking up to trump again i was like oh wow gee whiz
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  wow he pulled a glenn
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  SPEAKER_03: again a glenn back what a what a shot yeah
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  SPEAKER_03: I can't believe this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Who could have foreseen such a thing?
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  SPEAKER_03: And then the pressure that we're supposed to take that guy onto our side,
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  SPEAKER_03: and the same thing's true with Kinzinger.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like,
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  SPEAKER_03: oh,
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  we're just supposed to be overwhelmed by the fact that they're
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  standing up to this
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  regime when really they're just using their celebrity to shut
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  down other voices.
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  SPEAKER_03: They come onto platforms like Substack,
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  SPEAKER_03: not in solidarity,
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  SPEAKER_03: but in suppression to silence people that are saying other things.
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  SPEAKER_03: You can tell because they're not platforming us.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're not talking to us.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so, yeah, I have to.
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  SPEAKER_03: And half the time they're just like,
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  SPEAKER_03: well,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: both sides are really the problem and the left is still a problem.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, you know, fuck you.
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  SPEAKER_03: Your party's filled with fucking fascists.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't tell me that my side is a problem to go fuck off.
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  SPEAKER_03: But subscribe to me and give me your money.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's... Yeah, and I'll tell you nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you nothing while I do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because Michael Cohen said a lot of nothing throughout his whole time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we can figure out which way to go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Up on my head right here, there's a QR code.
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  That is for Lev Parnas has put together a change.org petition
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  that he wants to try
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  and get a million people to sign to bring to Congress to
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  subpoena Michael Cohen,
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  SPEAKER_00: Michael Wolff,
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  SPEAKER_00: and Steve Bannon.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was number 217.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't even fucking get me started with Michael Wolff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those three people could reveal so fucking much.
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  about the Epstein files and about what has happened without
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  getting any more information.
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  Just those three men could change the face of this entire story
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  if they were forced to testify.
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  SPEAKER_03: Steve Bannon would go to jail again before he opened his mouth.
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  SPEAKER_03: He would, but I don't give a fuck.
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  SPEAKER_03: He would destroy his life's work.
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  good i hope he would like that's what i want that's what i want
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  him to do like
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  defend yourself as as a pedophile protector defend yourself
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  it's your defense now
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  you know the onus is on you to prove that you are not
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  protecting pedophiles
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  SPEAKER_00: Not that pedophiles didn't happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the onus is on you, motherfucker.
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  SPEAKER_00: You committed the crime.
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  Prove to me that you are innocent or not guilty in this case
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  because you haven't
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  SPEAKER_00: fucking proved anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: So sign that subpoena,
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  SPEAKER_00: spread it around,
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  because if we can get a million people to sign that subpoena
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  and say have Ro Khanna
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  SPEAKER_00: and Thomas Massey and...
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  SPEAKER_00: I bet Marjorie Taylor Greene would love to subpoena Michael Cohen's ass.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she would probably jump on board.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't care.
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  SPEAKER_00: Use these fuckers to our advantage.
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  SPEAKER_00: They hate Michael Cohen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Get him on the stand.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can I just make one quick aside?
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  SPEAKER_01: You guys mentioned his name really quick.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can we talk about how...
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  fucking lame it is for somebody to be like oh well democrats
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  shouldn't say the f
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  word yeah oh my god oh my god jesus christ yeah don't don't
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  police me bro yes that
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  pissed me off but the thing about like michael cohen like ogre
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  was saying is
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  You should have gone above and beyond to tell us everything
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  that we know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't just be like,
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  SPEAKER_01: oh,
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  I was a fixer and Michael Calamari was the bag man and we paid
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  people off.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, dude.
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  SPEAKER_01: 500 people.
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  SPEAKER_00: You paid off 500 fucking people.
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  were running teenagers off the road with private investigators
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  yeah like give us
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  all the dirt and the details and then maybe we can talk about
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  like yes accepting
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  you into this side once you've everything out you know this
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  brings up a very
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  interesting topic which i hope we can segue into um you know
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  when we're looking at
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  a country of cowards right in leadership right oh yeah what an
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  what an opportunity
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  for somebody to literally just step up and be a hero and
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  capture and capture the
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  soul of the country in a way that could change the trajectory
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  of where we're at you
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  SPEAKER_01: know and it doesn't have to be anybody that wears a cape
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  It doesn't have to have a big S on the front or bad ears or a
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  ring,
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  okay?
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  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't have to be DC versus, you know, Marvel, okay?
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  SPEAKER_03: But what an opportunity for somebody with the right charisma,
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  SPEAKER_03: with the right attitude,
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  SPEAKER_03: with the right backing,
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  SPEAKER_03: with the integrity and honor that could just step up and just capture the
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  SPEAKER_03: narrative.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I, you know, I look at it too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like Cohen,
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  SPEAKER_03: he,
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_03: it's like,
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  SPEAKER_03: he's claiming he's turned another leaf,
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  SPEAKER_03: but he's enriching himself on platforms.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's he has,
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  SPEAKER_03: there's hundreds,
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  SPEAKER_03: there's probably thousands of people whose lives he really,
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_03: he made people miserable and he's not using his money to help that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_03: we,
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  SPEAKER_03: once you've made a mistake in life,
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  SPEAKER_03: the rest of your life is spent repairing that mistake.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the,
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  SPEAKER_03: and it's like,
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  SPEAKER_03: if it can't be repaired,
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  SPEAKER_03: you continue to labor to do the best you can to help in other ways.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't get to say, well, I said I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now fuck all those people that I hurt.
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  SPEAKER_03: We'll just forget about that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Give me money.
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  SPEAKER_03: I get to live in a mansion now.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like you have to live like a humble person.
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  SPEAKER_03: You have to help others.
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  SPEAKER_03: And there's some things that you've done that you can never make up for.
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  And so you have to pay it forward and help other people who
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  otherwise wouldn't have had anybody.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it's not about you.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it never should be about you.
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  And so the fact that so many people in America are willing to
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  give that guy money
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  SPEAKER_03: at the expense of actually decent human beings.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, everybody forgets Benny Thompson was on the J6 committee.
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  SPEAKER_03: Adam Kinzinger doesn't have to be the face of that committee.
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  We had all kinds of wonderful people that have had integrity
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  their whole lives that
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  SPEAKER_03: we could be saying,
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  SPEAKER_03: thank you.
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  SPEAKER_03: And for some reason they focus on this other guy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like America has, there's this magnetism for just bad people.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that we insist that's the way things have to be.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that's what we're trying to change here.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's always the grift.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's always the grift with the right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's all it is.
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  And the only good thing about that is that ultimately that is
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  what is destroying
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  SPEAKER_03: the American right wing is because everything is the grift with them.
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  everything i mean the republican party of 40 years ago used to
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  actually have an
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  agenda and the party worked towards the agenda they don't
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  really do that anymore
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  now it's all about all of them from top to bottom is how can i
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  make myself wealthy
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  and famous and if that screws the party in the process well
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  whatever i don't give a
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  SPEAKER_03: fuck i'm the one and their and their constituents
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, of course, of course.
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  Honestly,
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  at this point,
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  if they're not fucking their constituents,
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  what's the fun?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, Republicans seem to have that attitude.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like,
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  SPEAKER_03: if I'm not actually hurting the people who voted for me,
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  SPEAKER_03: then what am I even doing here?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's all a multi-level marketing scheme.
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  It's like all the sociopaths realize that politics is the new
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  grift and they're all
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  SPEAKER_01: flooded towards every party,
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  SPEAKER_01: but mostly the Republican Party.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just pure psychopaths that we're dealing with.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_03: the psychopaths,
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  SPEAKER_03: the pedophiles,
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  SPEAKER_03: the Nazis,
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  SPEAKER_03: they're all going to the freaking Republican Party.
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  And,
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  you know,
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  the thing they screamed the loudest is both sides,
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  both sides,
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  both sides.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's like, no, not.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then the Democrats are like, we have to work with these guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: We really have to work.
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  And we're always like,
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  oh,
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  we have to meet in the middle of the center somewhere.
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  I'm more than willing to meet a Nazi in the middle because,
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  you know,
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  I have a fist.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have a baseball bat.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm more than happy to meet them in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: They have to get within arm's reach.
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  SPEAKER_03: That requires me meeting them in the middle.
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  SPEAKER_03: But other than that, no.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sock puppet attack.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sock to the face.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's Ogre's superpower, the sock puppet.
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  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is it a Louisville slugger or a... Aluminum.
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  SPEAKER_03: They last longer.
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  it's not one of those little mini wooden bats that you have
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  that oh no no no no i
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  go full size oh okay super sized yeah no no i i got i got the
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  john holmes going on
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  here you need that trump xl condom that they sell nowadays oh
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  god oh god there's a
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  visual golden thank you very much unlubed laced with no did you
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  see there's a new
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  meme out with that advertisement now now it comes it comes with
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  its own walker oh
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  SPEAKER_00: Persistence.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Surprised it doesn't come with a pack of Depends on the side.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to rip on this one.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_03: This one is going to get dark if we rip on this one.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm stepping off.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've already self-deleted like 10 things.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, don't say that.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: Don't say that.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know,
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: all of this though,
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: like we were talking about it of like,
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Walter,
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: you're talking about like the apology part.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like you apologize and then you own it for the rest of your life.
• 15:34
  Like I'm doing the whole series on intelligent masculinity and
• 15:38
  I put the articles out this week.
• 15:40
  Like I started my first three like written articles and
• 15:43
  voiceovers for them this
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: week because of fucking Michael Cohen.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was like, I'm not gonna let this one go.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_03: That's a good project, Nick.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: If we let this fucker go,
• 15:51
  it's just another white dude that we've told he can get off the
• 15:54
  hook for being a
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: white dude who doesn't need any consequence.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because,
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: again,
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: if a black man had done this,
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: if Wajahat Ali had done this,
• 16:05
  you bet your fucking ass everyone would have canceled the fuck
• 16:09
  out of that.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: person.
• 16:11
  If Qasem Rashid had been the one who did this,
• 16:14
  they would have been nuked.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_00: Had Zoran Mondani done this,
• 16:18
  he would have been nuked from orbit and sent somewhere in
• 16:22
  Africa that he's never
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: been or never came from.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: That would have been the fucking response and we're being told,
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: no,
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: keep giving Adam Kinzinger and Michael Cohen money.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: They deserve your money.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: They wrote a book and they're telling you how to go forward.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: I know other Republican,
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: like prior Republicans who are out there,
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: who are actually doing the fucking work,
• 16:43
  who are actually doing things that are meaningful and
• 16:46
  noticeable and are actually
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: trying.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Adam Kinzinger, you stopped fucking trying.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: You're just sitting there trying to make money,
• 16:54
  and I have a feeling you'd be a lot closer to the white
• 16:57
  Christian nationalist than
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: I am in any way,
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: shape,
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: or form.
• 17:00
  You definitely would love to put a new tattoo where this one is
• 17:05
  with a number on it.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying you're a Nazi.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: But,
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to go that far with you,
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: Adam,
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: because you have not proven or shown yourself,
• 17:12
  and I do not want to be sued for defamation because I'm not
• 17:16
  assuming you are.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: Alleged.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: But your views are further.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Guys, I'm sorry.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, go ahead.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Have a great rest of the show.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_01: Have a safe flight, buddy.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_01: Love you.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: You guys are good.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Ogre.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Ogre.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Enjoy the four spot, buddy.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Eric.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you soon.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: Bye, buddy.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Bye, guys.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Take care.
• 17:37
  As I was saying,
• 17:39
  I'm not going to assume that he was anything that he's never
• 17:43
  said he is.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: That said,
• 17:45
  you were probably a lot closer to the white Christian
• 17:47
  nationalist side than I am
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: because you came from that.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: You don't seem to have really broken away.
• 17:54
  Adam's a tone policer and a fucking asshole because he tells us
• 17:58
  not to say fuck.
• 17:59
  when we feel like it and instead of allowing people to actually
• 18:03
  express their
• 18:04
  feelings and what's going on he's like no democratic
• 18:07
  politicians shouldn't say fuck
• 18:09
  after Renee Nicole Good was shot in the fucking head and shot
• 18:14
  three times and what
• 18:15
  we found out was allowed to die with eight minutes she was
• 18:20
  alive for eight fucking
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: minutes is what they said and she was not given care
• 18:28
  care yeah like let me care for her yeah there was a fuck and so
• 18:35
  adam if your
• 18:36
  response to a woman being murdered in cold blood in front of us
• 18:42
  and the mayor going
• 18:43
  ice get the fuck out of here we don't want you we don't need
• 18:46
  you if your response
• 18:47
  is to say hey democrats don't say the fuck word it sounds tacky
• 18:53
  you sound lame well
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: adam fuck right off like
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck right off twice.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Two-finger salute.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck right off.
• 19:00
  Here's the question you need to ask about our reformed
• 19:02
  Republican friends.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: When Donald Trump is gone,
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: Are they going to stay reformed Republican friends?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: Or are they going to go back to the Republican Party?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_03: Because Trump is the thing that drove them out of the party.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_03: And once he's gone, are they going to see an opportunity to go back?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: And if they do, well, then they were never our friends.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_03: They built the mechanism to put that asshole in power.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_03: They built it.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: They're unabashedly so.
• 19:31
  They're not saying they stand for universal health care,
• 19:34
  all those things now.
• 19:36
  The thing they're mad about is that Trump took their party away
• 19:38
  from them.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: And they wanted him back.
• 19:41
  And Kinzinger still voted against the Voting Rights Act when he
• 19:45
  was in office.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: He needs to be in Minneapolis right now documenting what's going on.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's horrible.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're using nerve gas on babies and shit there.
• 19:54
  They've got that memo going around where they're just coming
• 19:56
  into people's houses
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: without influence.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, this is fucking insane.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: I got two words for that.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Castle doctrine.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_03: Well,
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: that's,
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_03: I was talking about that and it's like,
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: they're not,
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: they've got all the weapons in the world.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's not going to save you.
• 20:12
  This whole myth of like the second amendment isn't going to
• 20:15
  save anybody with like 30 soldiers.
• 20:18
  There's only so many fucking Nazis in this country and there's
• 20:22
  400 million gods.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's yes.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: At some point.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_03: I want to pressure the politicians.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: at some point they're going to use the excuse too,
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: just like the Nazis did,
• 20:33
  to find a way to take away the right-wingers' guns in a way
• 20:37
  that doesn't upset
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: them.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_03: I saw an email from Roger Stone.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_03: I would love to see them try.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: I want to see them try because the Second Amendment is...
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: I own guns,
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: but I don't ever talk about my philosophy on guns in a lot of ways,
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: and I probably should.
• 20:52
  I think we need a lot of gun reform in this fucking country
• 20:55
  because I think we're
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: in a super dangerous spot.
• 20:57
  We've been weaponized and made into a war zone on purpose so
• 21:02
  that the arms industry
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: can perpetually make money and because war sells.
• 21:07
  And so what's the best way to make more money is make war at
• 21:10
  home because then you
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_00: can have perpetual war.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: And guess what?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: They armed all of us.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: They armed so many people.
• 21:17
  I am so proud of the fact that Americans have held their
• 21:24
  collective shit together
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: on this one and said,
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_00: nah,
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: I ain't going to shoot somebody yet.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, 400 million guns.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: As many people get shot every day with 400 million guns,
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: you think the number would be a lot higher.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_00: And like the fact that they're now going into people's homes
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's dangerous.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: Let's just say it's dangerous.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just dangerous.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go into the wrong one.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go into the wrong person's home.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go into the wrong person's home.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: Because they don't have warrants.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_03: They don't even know if they're in the right house.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: So it's like they're not even obeying any kind of procedure.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: So,
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 22:01
  it's like the people are out there like the people are under
• 22:03
  this illusion that
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: because they're white,
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: they're safe.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: You look at the incompetence.
• 22:07
  They're just banging down any door they want like a bunch of
• 22:09
  fucking assholes marching in.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: And the scary part is they're not really talking about taking away guns.
• 22:15
  but they're giving badges to like the most extreme deranged
• 22:19
  people in the country.
• 22:20
  So it's like something I really had never,
• 22:22
  I never conceived that this would happen before.
• 22:24
  So yeah,
• 22:24
  it's like,
• 22:25
  and they're declaring war on like decent human beings.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: So it's, it's scary.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: This is,
• 22:30
  I want them to kick down the door of a real fucking hardcore
• 22:34
  gun nut and just get
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: bullets sprayed all over the place.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: Cause I think that would be fucking hilarious.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: Cause after they killed a gun nut,
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: You know, what's the right going to say?
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what's the right going to say?
• 22:46
  They're going to say it was a liberal is what they're going to
• 22:48
  do because they always do that.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to lie.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: and the thing is,
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: though,
• 22:53
  they're going to go into some MAGA voter's house because
• 22:56
  they're not checking.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: They don't give a shit.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: But half these MAGA men, their wives are foreigners.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Their wives are foreign nationals.
• 23:05
  Half these MAGA men have wives from the Philippines or from
• 23:09
  Asia somewhere in
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: general because...
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: They want more compliant women.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're more submissive cultures.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 23:15
  they wanted a more submissive culture and a more compliant
• 23:18
  woman who'd go along
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: with what they're doing.
• 23:20
  Jonathan Ross,
• 23:22
  the guy who killed Renee Nicole Good,
• 23:24
  is married to an immigrant.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: The irony isn't lost on me.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: that this is who they are,
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: which means they're going to go,
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: and I don't advocate for gun violence.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: I never do.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: They're going to go into someone's home who does,
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: who's going to initial response,
• 23:47
  see a man in a mask coming into their house is going to be
• 23:51
  exactly what they have
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_00: said.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Libertarians are unhinged.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: They're unhinged, and they're the Boogaloo Boys.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: They were the ones who stormed the fucking Capitol in Hawaiian shirts.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_03: they're going to kick down the door of a sovereign citizen,
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_03: and the sovereign citizen's going to open fire.
• 24:10
  Yeah,
• 24:10
  they tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan,
• 24:14
  Fretchen Whitmer at one point.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, these are who they're going to knock the door on.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like we think of like MAGA being in like the South.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to have Ruby Ridge all over everywhere.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: MAGA folks and folks who are gun nuts and libertarians are everywhere.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: We're a pluralist.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're a plural society with folks everywhere.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: The largest concentration of MAGA voters was fucking California.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not the South.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the South that's the problem.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's all of this country, and somebody's going to get fucking hurt.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's white men.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: It is white men.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: We are the problem.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Thank God I'm a green ogre.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Thank God you're not white.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: I saw a memo.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'll have to find it for you guys.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: It was an email, I think.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: It was from Roger Stone.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: He had come up with this way of...
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: taking the guns from only liberals.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: He was talking about something, it had something to do with like,
• 25:17
  well let me give me a minute and i'll find it and i'll read it
• 25:21
  off to you guys
• 25:22
  because it was something he had some way of only taking the
• 25:25
  guns from liberals and
• 25:27
  stuff well that's the way it looks like what they're doing
• 25:29
  right now i mean yeah by
• 25:30
  giving badges to the most unhinged gun nuts and like people
• 25:35
  that are criminals and
• 25:36
  having them go door to door and giving them all the power and
• 25:39
  telling them they're
• 25:40
  accountable to nobody like the people that you know that's kind
• 25:44
  of the method where
• 25:45
  they're coming after us so it's happening in plain view and
• 25:48
  then the people on the
• 25:49
  right who aren't aware of reality aren't seeing how they will
• 25:52
  be a target at some
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_03: point but they're still just cheering about the libs getting owned
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_03: All the brown shirts are going to be in for such a terrible,
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: terrible shock when the regime falls.
• 26:05
  And it's like,
• 26:06
  oh,
• 26:07
  no,
• 26:07
  we got a pardon from Stephen Miller and the auto pen.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_03: And then someone whispers into their ear.
• 26:13
  federalism charges you're not pardoned from state charges and
• 26:21
  we're coming for you
• 26:23
  yeah this is the thing i keep saying over and over and over
• 26:26
  it's like i know you
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: guys think that you're immune forever
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: You're going into blue states with blue attorneys general.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: They're going to fucking come for you.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: And it doesn't matter if you're wearing a mask.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: We're going to figure out who the fuck you are.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:42
  You know,
• 26:42
  Donald Trump and Stephen Miller can sign all the pardons they
• 26:46
  want.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: When you show up in a fucking state courtroom,
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_03: no one's going to give a shit that you have a federal pardon.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: And that's the kind of stuff Adam Kinzinger should be saying.
• 26:56
  Just to mention this,
• 26:57
  it's like you guys are going to be held accountable.
• 26:58
  Those masks with facial recognition software,
• 27:02
  those masks aren't going to protect your identity.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: No, they really will not.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Your iPhone can figure out who you are just by your eyes.
• 27:10
  Like there is a mask setting on your iPhone that lets you wear
• 27:15
  a mask and unlock
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_00: your phone with your face.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Don't fucking use it.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Don't fucking use that shit.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: and all those lovely tools that Palantar is creating,
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: we're going to be able to use that too.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a two-way street.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we'll have access to all that technology too.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: What's Peter Thiel going to do?
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_03: Say, no, you can't use it?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, bitch, we already paid you hundreds of billions of dollars.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: We own that now.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_03: You don't get to take it away.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: What happens when a Democratic president comes in and says,
• 27:46
  we're nationalizing Starlink and SpaceX for national security
• 27:51
  because it is
• 27:53
  reckless and irresponsible as a nation to have a single person
• 27:58
  own infrastructure
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_00: that is a state level entity.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: They need to take it.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: What's going to happen?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: Elon Musk will overdose on ketamine and nothing important will be lost.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: No,
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 28:09
  nothing important will be lost in all those weird children that
• 28:13
  he's brought into
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: the world upon people.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, don't call them weird.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_03: We don't know what the kids are like.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: He,
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: weird him,
• 28:24
  has brought in a reckless number of children that are going to
• 28:28
  be scarred for life
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: because of him.
• 28:30
  now that one kid's gonna be a demon dude i i'll say it the one
• 28:34
  that was in the oval
• 28:36
  office saying you mr president that kid's gonna be horrible
• 28:40
  well child abuse is a
• 28:41
  right-wing thing the ogre says this correctly all the time it's
• 28:44
  just how they raise
• 28:45
  kids is by abuse they think they're their property they think
• 28:48
  they own these kids
• 28:49
  you know like farm communities where they're feeding kids into
• 28:52
  hay balers all the
• 28:52
  time that that's how they think and that's what we need to
• 28:56
  change the idea is that
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: we need to change in this society
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Have you guys heard the backstory about Elon Musk and his grandfather?
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 29:04
  Yeah,
• 29:05
  his maternal grandfather was one of the main people in this
• 29:10
  technocracy movement.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I forget, I don't know if it was like, it wasn't in South Africa.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: It was in Canada first.
• 29:18
  He got kicked out of Canada for being so extreme that he
• 29:23
  emigrated to South Africa
• 29:24
  where his views were somewhat acceptable because they were an
• 29:27
  apartheid state.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: And he fit in real well with them.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they had to go find someplace that was still Nazi-ish.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_00: Evan,
• 29:36
  you should definitely talk to Ogre about the technocracy and
• 29:40
  the technocrats and
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: the techopoly bullshit that they do.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because Ogre has a couple really good articles detailing the test reel,
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: which is the pseudo-religion of...
• 29:54
  um of silicon valley like it's revolt it's post-humanism it's
• 30:01
  like they want a
• 30:02
  third of the u.s population left like they want to call
• 30:05
  two-thirds of the u.s
• 30:06
  population they think we have an upper boundary of 100 million
• 30:10
  we have 340 million
• 30:12
  plus people in this country right now that's 240 million of us
• 30:15
  they want either
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: remigrated, which is a Nazi term, out of the country, or murdered.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's what they want.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_00: They just want us dead.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_03: This is really the whole thing.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: This is why we're fucking around with Greenland, by the way.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_03: This is the main reason we're fucking with Greenland.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: It's Silicon Valley wants Greenland
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_03: They wanted Greenland for a really,
• 30:40
  really long time because they want to build their stupid
• 30:43
  fucking freedom cities
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_03: there.
• 30:45
  They think Greenland is a great place to build their stupid
• 30:48
  fucking freedom cities
• 30:50
  where they can build these lawless fucking fiefdoms where they
• 30:54
  can rape little
• 30:55
  girls and they can do their crazy medical experiments so they
• 30:58
  can be immortal and
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: live like,
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: you know.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_03: They don't have to pay taxes and they could be,
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: modern day,
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: kings in their little kingdoms.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: And they could just,
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: pedophilia will be legal because we don't have to obey the laws and blah,
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: blah,
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_03: blah.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: And that's they want Greenland.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: One of them tried to buy Greenland several years ago.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: I forget.
• 31:19
  It was some little tech douchebag went to buy Greenland and
• 31:23
  Greenland said,
• 31:25
  fuck off yeah and he was very offended by that and now they're
• 31:29
  pushing trump and
• 31:31
  his you know because he's got a whole bunch of tech bros there
• 31:34
  and they want
• 31:35
  greenland they want to own it not for any strategic purpose
• 31:39
  because we already can
• 31:41
  use greenland for all the strategic purposes we want we can
• 31:44
  build unlimited
• 31:45
  military bases there they want it for their freedom cities
• 31:50
  that's why they won't
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: let it go
• 31:53
  So let them go freeze their dicks off because my dad,
• 31:57
  he was in the Air Force.
• 31:58
  And I remember when I was like seven or eight,
• 32:02
  he got sent to Thule Greenland for a year.
• 32:07
  And I remember he used to get it was back like before cell
• 32:11
  phones and stuff.
• 32:11
  So he only used to get like one phone call a week because they
• 32:14
  would have to go
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: into town and stuff.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: They would have to drive an hour into the next community.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: They would have to go an hour to go get haircuts.
• 32:29
  And he said that all there was up there was a tiny little town
• 32:34
  with old school supermarkets.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: And they had a strip club for the Air Force people.
• 32:38
  people and that was it and he said there's fucking nothing up
• 32:43
  there it's negative
• 32:44
  30 negative 40 all the time oh god yeah like you can you can
• 32:49
  ask soldiers who've
• 32:51
  ever been stationed at Fort Brat or Fort Drum in New York which
• 32:55
  is the coldest
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: station in the US outside of Alaska
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because I was at Fort Wainwright.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: Outside of Alaska, Fort Drum is the coldest station.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it's also where the 10th Mountain Division is,
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: which is part of and they consume part of the Mountain Warfare School.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: They like own on the National Guard side.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: They own the Mountain Warfare School.
• 33:18
  I know this because Mountain Warfare School is based out part
• 33:21
  of it's based out of Vermont.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: And
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Every single one of them will tell you they fucking hate how cold it is.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: They fucking hate it.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_00: Soldiers don't want to fight when it's cold as shit.
• 33:34
  Because it's hard to shoot your weapon when your fingers don't
• 33:40
  want to fucking move.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm about to go on a fucking diet track.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_03: Ask the Nazis how that worked out in Russia.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,
• 33:47
  that's actually got me excited because here I'm an hour away
• 33:51
  from Minneapolis and
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: we're supposed to have 25 below.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm just like,
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_03: those fucking white supremacists,
• 33:57
  those white supremacists from the Confederate States are not
• 33:59
  going to want to go
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_03: out.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: They're literally relearning the same lesson.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_03: Never invade a frozen wasteland.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_03: And don't do it in winter either.
• 34:09
  that went through my head well that went through my head when i
• 34:13
  when i brought my
• 34:13
  family to live in wisconsin it's like you know how to survive
• 34:16
  in wisconsin like the
• 34:17
  whole world you're gonna be fine anywhere and yeah people it's
• 34:20
  really hard for them
• 34:21
  to come when it's 25 below zero i want i want to mention one
• 34:24
  other thing just to
• 34:25
  plant another seed in your minds uh yesterday i was talking
• 34:27
  with william spivy and
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_03: he was suggesting he's a scholar of black history he's brilliant
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: And he was suggesting that,
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: the white supremacist movement is so afraid because,
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: in 10 or 15 years,
• 34:39
  white people are going to be a minority that what they're
• 34:41
  trying to do is establish
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: apartheid here.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they're going to try to establish apartheid.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it just kind of helps see what they're doing.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, it's either that or they're strip mining the planet to go to Mars.
• 34:53
  But I think they have,
• 34:54
  it's just like one crazy idea stacked on top of another.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_03: So something else to kind of keep your eye on if you see evidence for it.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: You had some thoughts on the snow too.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was always their thing.
• 35:07
  Once they were looking at the demographics and it was going to
• 35:10
  be a minority
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: majority country,
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_03: white men,
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_03: Republicans,
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: let's just say what it is.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_03: We're talking about Republicans.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: We're always, always, always going to push for fascism.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_03: But that was going to be down the road.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_03: Like they were working towards this for like a long time.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I was writing about this 15 years ago.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: The thing that accelerated it was the election of Barack Obama.
• 35:39
  They were like,
• 35:40
  oh,
• 35:41
  shit,
• 35:42
  we're at the point where we can elect a black president.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, we got to step up the fucking timetable.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_03: If we can elect a black president,
• 35:49
  we're much closer to the downfall of white power than we're
• 35:53
  comfortable with.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: And they lost.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: if you look at what happened,
• 36:00
  the election of a black president broke the minds of a lot of
• 36:04
  white people.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: On the right and the fucking left,
• 36:08
  like you will see there was a whole bunch of people who were
• 36:10
  supposed to be,
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 36:12
  liberals and progressives who lost their fucking minds after a
• 36:19
  black man became
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: president.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: They just went off the fucking deep end.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: You remember the whole Obama movement?
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: Carville fits into that.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_03: And all those strategists who sabotaged Kamala,
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_03: there's a lot of democratic strategists who are just complete racists.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the idea of a black woman was just like way too fucking much.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean, the misogyny is deeper than the racism.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_03: We just don't talk about it the same way.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_03: But my God, they could not fucking come to terms with that idea.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: And they just moved up the timetable.
• 36:53
  It's like we would rather burn this country to the fucking
• 36:56
  ground than let go of white power.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what we're seeing here.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
• 37:01
  they're all in on ending democracy because democracy will not
• 37:06
  allow white power to
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_03: be entrenched forever.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: And they cannot comprehend that.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_03: They cannot deal with it.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: It terrifies them.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: And somebody writes,
• 37:16
  America was never a white majority country because whiteness is
• 37:20
  not a thing.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't even exist.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_03: These races don't exist.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_03: So it's a lie.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's all a lie.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I think that needs to be established.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody in the comments said that.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_03: So I just want that to be clear.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: But, you know, as far as they're concerned, it does.
• 37:37
  I mean,
• 37:38
  I've had that conversation with them as well when they go,
• 37:40
  oh,
• 37:40
  white pride.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I ask them, what are you proud about?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: What is it about being white that you're proud about?
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that conversation always goes really, really fucking badly.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_03: And it's very, very funny.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_01: You should try that.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you should try that someday.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, all they do is they robbed it.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_03: They do like what the guy in the Oval Office does.
• 38:00
  They stamp their name on something somebody else made and claim
• 38:04
  that they did it.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_03: And they've never contributed one goddamn fucking thing.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's like my whole career.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_03: They'll say shit like, oh, you know, Western civilization.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_03: What are you specifically?
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: What is it about white people?
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, and they'll name shit about fucking from Europe.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like,
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_03: OK,
• 38:21
  but that would have been like that might have been like Greece
• 38:24
  or that might have
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: been Italy or might have been,
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_03: France or whatever.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: The Irish.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's like what what exactly what what was the white person thing?
• 38:33
  Like if the Russians did something like the Russians got into
• 38:36
  space first.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_03: White people don't celebrate that.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_03: Russians celebrate that.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_03: Americans landed on the moon first.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: That wasn't white people.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_03: You don't see Russians celebrating that shit.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: It was black ladies doing those calculations and everything.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: What was the movie, Hidden Figures?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, no, no.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: You have to pretend that doesn't exist.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: Pretend that doesn't exist.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_03: But it's like if you go to Russia and you say,
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: oh,
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: my fellow white man,
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_03: isn't it awesome white people got to the moon first?
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_03: And they'll just look at you like...
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck you.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: I was the American.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: We don't even believe we've gotten to the moon.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like, I'm sorry.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_03: Russia got into space first.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck you, American.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: You can't get above the firmament.
• 39:20
  Don't you know we're in the bubble and you can only be inside
• 39:23
  this flat plane of
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_00: flat Earth with the firmament above it and the
• 39:28
  And somehow the universe travels all around us and everything
• 39:31
  else is round.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_03: Is that the ice shield?
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually the turtle shell.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: We're on a giant turtle floating through space.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: I would much rather be on a space turtle than like
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: Our current reality?
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, our current reality.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: A space turtle would be kind of cool.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine finding out we're on a fucking space turtle.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: Swimming through space.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_00: Swimming through space.
• 39:56
  Maybe we could figure out how to get it moving so we could go
• 40:01
  where we want in space.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: We could just have ourselves space turtle.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: Space turtle.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: Or Space Turtle.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Fuck, yeah, that's what we need.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_03: You get all serious about people, yeah.
• 40:16
  Call into your local school district and insist they teach
• 40:19
  about Space Turtle.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_02: Teach the controversy.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_03: Teach the controversy.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: Have you guys ever done the...
• 40:27
  the teapot in the sky um one for like to prove people about
• 40:32
  like god um it's my way
• 40:34
  of talking about like god because i'm agnostic atheist uh there
• 40:38
  is no but i'm
• 40:39
  curious 100 a teapot between here and jupiter you cannot
• 40:42
  believe it doesn't exist
• 40:43
  yeah you cannot prove to me that there is not an
• 40:46
  infinitesimally small teapot
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: orbiting earth between moon and mars or moon and jupiter
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_03: You can't prove it.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: You can't prove it wrong.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: So it's there.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a teapot in the sky.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: Burden of proof is on you.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, burden of, but you can't disprove it.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can't disprove it.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, there is no burden of proof.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: In my good book,
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: in my good book of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the Space Teapot,
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: it says there is an infinitesimally.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, prove that that book exists.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot prove that that book exists,
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: but I can also,
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: I can prove that it,
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: I can't prove that it doesn't exist.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
• 41:21
  Just that you mentioned this flying spaghetti monster in our
• 41:25
  Dungeons and Dragons campaign.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_03: She wanted to be a cleric.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, well, all right.
• 41:30
  So,
• 41:31
  you know,
• 41:31
  you have to if you're going to be a cleric,
• 41:33
  you have to have a God.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_03: You have to.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_03: She's like flying spaghetti monster.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_03: It's the flying spaghetti monster.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_03: She's a church of flying spaghetti monster.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_03: And have you guys seen Dogma?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: So she's also Buddy Christ.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_03: So it's Buddy Christ and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: So thinking about Buddy Christ, I was in a fraternity in college.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: I won't name which one, but I was in a fraternity in college.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: And part of our pledging process was we had to throw a party.
• 42:04
  And I have this luscious beard,
• 42:06
  but back then I had a much fuller head of hair and it's curly.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I look very, very middle Eastern when I do it.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: You mean very Jewish and very, very much like Jesus.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I dressed up as Jesus.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh,
• 42:19
  But I dressed up as Buddy Christ and went around Pittsburgh as
• 42:23
  Buddy Christ.
• 42:23
  And we had a Catholic school-themed party because,
• 42:26
  you know,
• 42:26
  college and that's what you do.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it was the Buddy Christ party.
• 42:30
  And we had a 12-foot-tall Buddy Christ outside of our
• 42:33
  fraternity just going,
• 42:35
  yeah,
• 42:36
  come on in.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on one second.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: I still have the shirt from it, too.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_03: He needs a minute.
• 42:43
  I still have my party shirt from it,
• 42:44
  too,
• 42:45
  and it's got the Buddy Christ on it.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: But I won't reveal it because it's got the fraternity name.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: Knocking out myself on that one.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, there he is!
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got Mini Buddy Christ.
• 42:57
  that should be somebody's puppet yeah i should get that as a
• 43:00
  hand puppet here i'll
• 43:01
  pray i'll pray to my lord and savior savior gizmo after
• 43:07
  midnight and do not get him
• 43:08
  wet um or else he will become i'll show you let's see if i can
• 43:14
  make you see it you
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: don't see what this is
• 43:16
  this is a doll my daughter made like a star wars doll oh that's
• 43:20
  so awesome she used
• 43:22
  to just go buy the cheap dolls at the dollars she made this 10
• 43:25
  years ago probably
• 43:25
  the ears it used to have ears but it's like a jedi version of
• 43:28
  darth maul he comes
• 43:31
  back to the light he's got his lightsaber yeah like one of my
• 43:35
  friends he saw that
• 43:36
  he's like huh you know if maybe if life had been a little
• 43:39
  easier for old darth maul
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: She used to make these dolls.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like, holy shit.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_03: She was maybe seven when she made me that.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Your daughters are freaking awesome.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: The artwork that they do is so cool.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_03: Your kids are too.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it all.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: I love getting to show them off.
• 43:58
  You want me to explain the featured image real quick for like
• 44:00
  two seconds?
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, let me show it.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'll just pull up the graphic.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be able to talk, but I'll pull up the graphic here for a second.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's funny.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_03: It makes me laugh.
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  SPEAKER_00: from the front is our featured image for today's show title.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is a gnome on a dinosaur?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you need to send that to me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I need to send that to my daughter because she's obsessed with gnomes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, let me just explain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Can you tell the story about it, Walter?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it's just a character.
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  SPEAKER_03: I've written them these fantasy books.
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  So that's from the sixth fantasy book where they meet a
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  Tyrannosaurus Rex and
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  SPEAKER_03: there's this gnome that's accompanying them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that's just naturally.
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  But what I like about my little daughter sketched that out,
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  I added the color in.
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  But I think it's funny because he's got this leather belt that
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  he sticks a
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  toothbrush in because this Tyrannosaurus Rex is really
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  concerned about dental
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  SPEAKER_03: hygiene.
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  SPEAKER_03: It just makes me laugh.
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  My kid remembered that when she sketched it out and she put the
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  little toothbrush
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  SPEAKER_03: on the belt on the dinosaur.
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  SPEAKER_03: It makes me so happy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I saw that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I just cried with laughter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Walter, you make me so happy, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just so everyone can see it a little bit better, too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bring her back.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to bring it back.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a gnome on a dinosaur.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's the toothbrush.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's the toothbrush.
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  no no i thought that was funny the details your kids remember
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  it's like gotta get
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  that toothbrush in there so i love the little crystals too well
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  he's gotta have a
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  friend his arms are too small to uh um yeah yeah he's gotta
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  have a friend helping
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  SPEAKER_00: him
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  This dinosaur character is all remorseful because he eventually
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  confesses that he
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  SPEAKER_03: killed and ate all the other dinosaurs.
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  SPEAKER_03: So they have to forgive him.
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  SPEAKER_03: We'll be your new friend.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's all sad.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's like, you have to help me to not kill and eat you too.
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  And they're like,
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  forgiveness is okay if you really...
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  It's like this masculinity shit.
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  SPEAKER_03: It takes him a long time to get to the point where he can confess that.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're like, why aren't there any other dinosaurs?
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  SPEAKER_03: And he's like, evasive.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then he finally...
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  SPEAKER_00: He's the Michael Cohen of dinosaurs.
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  SPEAKER_03: Ooh.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, no.
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  Wait,
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  does that mean we have to send him money and subscribe to his
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  newsletter?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, send me money.
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  SPEAKER_03: Segway, send me money.
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  SPEAKER_00: Send Walter money.
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  SPEAKER_00: Walter needs the money.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's the toothbrush and dinosaur who's going to eat everybody.
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  SPEAKER_03: The dinosaur is legitimately redeemed because later on,
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  SPEAKER_03: he does have an opportunity to eat his new friends,
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  SPEAKER_03: and he doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_03: These are the weird lessons I teach to my kids in my stories.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like, see, he had the opportunity to eat you and he didn't.
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  SPEAKER_03: So that means he was truthful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Don't eat your friends.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because you don't have them anymore.
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  SPEAKER_03: He learned that lesson.
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  SPEAKER_03: You see, as you eat them, they're gone.
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  SPEAKER_03: You're lonely.
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  SPEAKER_03: See,
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  SPEAKER_03: they tasted delicious,
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  SPEAKER_03: but now you have no one to talk to about how delicious that meal was.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have anybody to share the meal with if you eat your friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: If your friends are the meal, you don't have anyone to share with.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't eat your friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't be a cannibal.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's like, maybe if I just eat one of you.
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  SPEAKER_03: He has to walk through it.
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  SPEAKER_03: They have to convince him.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like the sharks in Nemo.
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  SPEAKER_00: Fish are friend, not food.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, my God.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's been a minute.
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  uh getting an ask in the chat off off topic though is what
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  happened with the
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  hearing with zev i'm not sure he probably just ended it for now
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  uh that's ongoing
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  right yeah i've just got it up i'm just cut it right now i
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  think he just ended um
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  zev shall have his showing of it for now um but i think he's
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  gonna re-invite other
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  folks so that it's a larger he's probably gonna do a larger
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  panel i'm guessing
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  SPEAKER_00: later um
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Joe Neguse from Colorado's questioning me right now.
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  He's kind of going off on like a little bit of a tangent or
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  whatever,
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  which is to be expected.
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  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, Jack Smith looks like he came to play ball, dude.
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  I really hope that he's the next AG and I hope that whoever's
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  the president just
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  SPEAKER_01: gives it free reign and says,
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  SPEAKER_01: listen,
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  SPEAKER_01: be a pit bull and I want you to go after everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if you need to threaten people to get in line,
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  then you do it because you've got the full weight of the
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  federal government behind
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  SPEAKER_01: you.
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  Letitia James would be a good choice too,
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  but yeah,
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  either one of them would be great.
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  SPEAKER_01: He just looks like a dude that doesn't fuck around.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Iron.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no politically motivated prosecution at this point.
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  if we prosecute these folks because they are so
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  anti-constitutional that like,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just tired of people being like,
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's about the politics.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's about the fucking constitution.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's about the rule of law.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you guys have broken all of it.
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  Jordan sitting up there protecting another pedophile and
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  protecting another abuser
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  SPEAKER_00: and assaulter of minors.
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  SPEAKER_00: And cause that's Jim's Jim Jordan's, um,
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  legacy is he protected uh sexual assaulters instead of students
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  at um the ohio
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  state like he he let abuse happen and now he's protecting it
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  again like that's who
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  SPEAKER_00: they are they say it gets easier the second time yeah yeah
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  SPEAKER_03: And these are the Christians.
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  SPEAKER_03: I am super, super looking forward.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't understand.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm anticipating.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm already looking forward to in 2029.
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  I expect to be writing article after article after article
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  telling people to shut
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  SPEAKER_03: the fuck up when they say,
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_03: oh...
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  SPEAKER_03: we really have to look forward for the country.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_03: We have to turn the temperature down.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: We just can't do political revenge and political retaliation.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_03: I swear to God,
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  the New York Times is just going to have headline after
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  headline after headline
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  SPEAKER_03: about how
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_03: We have to get things back to normal now.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_03: We have to dial it down.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_03: And I swear to God,
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  I'm going to set that fucking building on fire because they're
• 50:29
  going to be,
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  they're going to devote every waking moment to just
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  whitewashing the Republican
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  SPEAKER_03: party and making sure they're never,
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  SPEAKER_03: ever held accountable.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just like the Confederacy was.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Confederacy was whitewashed and never held accountable.
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  SPEAKER_00: It then created the KKK.
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  SPEAKER_00: It then influenced Nazism.
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  SPEAKER_00: And now it's fucking back.
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  SPEAKER_01: The government, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The government is run by the KKK party.
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  SPEAKER_00: We need to stop calling it the Republican party.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the KKK party.
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  SPEAKER_00: Donald Trump literally ran on the KKK platform.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that America first shit was all KKK.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: So let's call a pig a pig,
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  SPEAKER_00: call a spade a spade,
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  SPEAKER_00: call a fascist a fascist,
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  SPEAKER_00: call a white supremacist a white supremacist,
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  SPEAKER_00: and call a Nazi a confederate.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they have to fucking pay the price for it.
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  SPEAKER_03: They have to fucking pay the price for it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And this is why they stopped letting them off the fucking hook.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_03: And this is why they bought up the media to do that cultural programming,
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  SPEAKER_03: exactly like the ogre said.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're going to hit us with that messaging.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's why they've come on to Substack,
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  SPEAKER_03: all these big names that,
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  SPEAKER_03: as I said before,
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  SPEAKER_03: they're not here in solidarity.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're here to suppress the people who are making this message.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_03: And the second we say something like that,
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  SPEAKER_03: like Ogre said,
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  SPEAKER_03: let's hold the pedophiles accountable.
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  We're the ones who are assaulted by this tidal wave of how
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  we're being unreasonable
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  SPEAKER_03: and how we're not conforming with the will of the party.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's just the comply or die applies to the extreme right,
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_03: but it applies to the Democratic Party,
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  SPEAKER_03: too.
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  They say vote blue until it's Mom Donnie,
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  and then they're just like,
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  fuck that guy.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's sort of like, you know, we got to speak back.
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  SPEAKER_00: We got to take it down.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's the whole system we have to break this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, the whole thing is about accountability.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, this whole project has to be about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there is no reconciliation in this country without truth.
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  and without accountability we will never reconcile anything we
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  will never finish
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  like reconciling the sin of slavery until we're willing to
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  finally confront the
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  confederacy as a bad fucking thing all around the country not
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  just teach in the
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  SPEAKER_00: north like i learned in vermont that it was the civil war in
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  SPEAKER_00: Areas in the South, they teach it as the war of Northern aggression.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I thought they were happy slaves.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what I heard.
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  SPEAKER_03: I heard they were happy slaves.
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  SPEAKER_03: They worked together.
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  SPEAKER_01: They had jobs and they were taken care of.
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  SPEAKER_00: We gave them food and housing and free labor.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we bought them to Jesus.
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  SPEAKER_03: We taught them civilization.
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  SPEAKER_03: Gave them censored Bibles that took half of it out.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  they did yeah oh man yeah and then the rape farms william was
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  talking about that
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  the other day the rape farms how they would you know the
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  breathing he said they
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  were sending out like trade magazines to like you know like to
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  farms like this is
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  how you can increase the value of your farm every year by
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  having all your female
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  SPEAKER_03: slaves have a baby every two years i mean just the most
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  vile and it's like the it's like the essence yeah the people
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  don't know this and
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  it's just like the essence of our rape culture and all the
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  toxic masculinity we're
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  fighting against it's just been there and nobody's ever
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  mentioned it or held them
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  accountable for that and all those fortunes william fullwood
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  said there were entire
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  banks that like made their money on mortgaging the womb of an
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  enslaved black with
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  SPEAKER_03: the wombs of enslaved black women you know uh you know like
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  you know giving out loans on the basis of the babies they were
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  going to be you know
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  yeah that was the most that was the most up thing i mean so i
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  live here in northern
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  virginia right so i'm right by dc and they have the um the
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  african-american museum
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  SPEAKER_03: of history that they opened up several years ago
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  SPEAKER_03: And we've been there a bunch of times, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a big museum.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot in there.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it takes multiple times to get through it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And the entire bottom floor,
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  SPEAKER_03: like the entire bottom floor is less like a huge,
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  SPEAKER_03: huge thing about,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_03: slavery and,
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  SPEAKER_03: you know,
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  SPEAKER_03: all the different facets of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And now I've read about it for years and I went to school up in New York.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_03: So, and I went to college up in New York.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I was familiar, right.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was,
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  SPEAKER_03: I didn't get the whitewash version,
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  but even the version I got was still whitewashed because the
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  most horrible,
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  horrible stuff like i mean yeah i knew they they beat them i
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  knew they killed them
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  i knew they raped them and i still i'm in there and i'm looking
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  around and then i
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  just see this wall where they're explaining how banks had
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  mortgages they gave out
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  mortgages on people and it was like that that part that one
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  really hit me it was
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  SPEAKER_03: like oh man like i knew they thought of him as property
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  SPEAKER_03: But that just really, really drove it home.
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  And it's like,
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  man,
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  there's their property,
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  and then there's their property.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, property, property.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, Jesus fucking Christ, mortgages.
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  SPEAKER_03: They took fucking mortgages out on people.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like it never ended.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_00: This hasn't ended.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Epstein saga,
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  SPEAKER_00: what is going on in the Epstein files,
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  SPEAKER_00: is an extension of those rape farms and that rape mortgage.
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  Rich white men who have the right to do anything they want with
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  anyone they want.
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  SPEAKER_00: Donald Trump was upset that a girl with
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  SPEAKER_00: bought from him by Epstein.
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  They treated these girls like cattle,
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  like chattel,
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  like that's what they are.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just the same.
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  I think we just went from doing it only in America to black
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  women or mostly to
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  black women to just doing it to whoever the fuck they wanted to
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  because white
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  supremacy said they had the power to do it and no one was going
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  to stop them
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_00: because our laws protect rich white men rather than punish them.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: And slavery is still legal.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_03: The Constitution still allows it in prison.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, all you have to do is have some absurd charge.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's why we have all these for-profit prisons.
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  SPEAKER_03: People get thrown in there, and now they're slaves again.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, all this has to be undone.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_03: But first, everybody just has to know about it.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_03: So all the wonderful people here in the chat and everything...
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  SPEAKER_03: Go do some looking into it.
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  SPEAKER_03: I saw Evan just put a book into the chat.
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  I want to mention one,
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  Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl by Harriet Jacobs.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_03: this is a young woman,
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_03: a young black woman who was...
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_03: She found out how to read sort of the same way Frederick Douglass did.
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  SPEAKER_03: These stories are just astonishing.
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  And they were able to get away and write their narratives of
• 57:32
  the reality of those times.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just... You read that and it's just...
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, these records are so vital and they must be preserved.
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  SPEAKER_03: And more importantly, we've got to pass them on to our kids.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_03: What was the name of that book?
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: Walter, what was the name?
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl by Harriet Jacobs.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's Harriet Jacobs.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_03: She had, I think she published it under a pen name.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's the pen name she published it under.
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  And one of the things that I think that,
• 57:55
  like you guys talked about the whitewashing of...
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  slavery,
• 57:59
  like the history of slavery and the version that we learn of
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  it.
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  And one of the things that never gets talked about is there is
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  so much literature
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  SPEAKER_01: out there on it.
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  There are so many black authors that have studied it and
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  historians who have put
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  SPEAKER_01: out great books on it.
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  And you can go to local bookshops,
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  go to Barnes and Noble,
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  wherever the library.
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  And there are so many good books that tell like the real
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  history of actually what went on.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you can see
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
• 58:27
  kind of peel back the illusion of that's what we need to do
• 58:30
  over this year is peel
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_01: back the illusion of,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: America being great at some point.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we need to fix this shit.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: You know, our history starts making sense, too.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_03: When you read these things, you're like, oh, well, that explains it.
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  All this bullshit we've been told before,
• 58:44
  you know,
• 58:45
  stuff's being left out.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_03: It's like when you meet some guy who claims he's working at McDonald's,
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: but he lives in a mansion and he drives.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's like something.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_03: This guy's not telling me everything about his life.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_03: And that's the way all of U.S.
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  SPEAKER_03: history is.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's all this shit that's been left out.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_03: And you read like Du Bois is another one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Reconstruction in Black America.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: That's a big, thick book.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just like, oh, yeah, obviously this is what happened.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, like.
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  I'll say this one because I like to rag on them a lot about
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  this history that they
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: don't ever want to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Mormon Church, y'all are founded on genocide.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all are founded on the genocide of Native Americans.
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  SPEAKER_00: You went west and killed as many as you could.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was the whole purpose of your trip,
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  SPEAKER_00: basically,
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_00: was to kill Native Americans and find Zion in the middle of nowhere.
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  SPEAKER_00: all based on the lies from a fraud and a grifter
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  SPEAKER_00: Joseph Smith,
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  SPEAKER_00: who defrauded people and was charged for it,
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  SPEAKER_00: found golden tablets,
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: everything about gold,
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_00: all gold for Joseph Smith.
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  SPEAKER_01: Magic underwear and magic tablets.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: magic underwear and magic golden tablets,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he raped women and girls across the country,
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  SPEAKER_00: and he...
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  had a cult of followers that turned into a white only religion
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  until just a couple
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  SPEAKER_00: of years ago,
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_00: like not very long ago,
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  SPEAKER_00: it was a white only religion.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like that is the legacy of white supremacy is Mormonism.
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  Didn't Mitt Romney,
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  didn't his family like take up a whole compound in Mexico and
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  stuff?
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  Yeah,
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  because they had to leave because you couldn't do polygamy here
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  anymore.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_03: So they're like, but we want to.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_03: So they went to Mexico.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that's, that is the party we're fighting against.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the people, it's not even party.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the people that we're trying to break this country from.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_00: And like, sometimes you have to let them just leave on their own.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know where they go.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what they're doing.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how we get there yet.
• 1:01:00
  but part of that is nuremberging them all or american style
• 1:01:03
  nuremberging them all
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  because we do have consequences for treason in this country
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  they're written into
• 1:01:10
  law there's really only one outcome for trees oh you're getting
• 1:01:16
  close watch out for
• 1:01:17
  your face there ogre you're getting oh god the noose comes out
• 1:01:21
  that is the only
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  SPEAKER_00: outcome for treason and i
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't advocate for violence, but I advocate for justice.
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  And you can't just violate the constitution flagrantly like
• 1:01:38
  this and hurt so many people.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not even about the constitution.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's about the fact that you are hurting so many fucking people.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're just bad people and you deserve to get the punishment and
• 1:01:51
  That comes with those actions because masculinity is the
• 1:01:55
  ability to live with the
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_00: consequences of your values and actions.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: And these people don't want to live with the consequences.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_00: We do.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_00: We care about consequences.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it be good or bad, we want to leave good consequences.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's future legacy.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_00: I want to leave something good.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_00: They want to tear it all down.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: We're also reaching just at the hour mark.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_00: So,
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_00: Walter,
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'll let you finish up,
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: too,
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_00: as I switch to the next screen,
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: and then we'll go into our let everybody sell themselves real quick.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: I just wanted to say real quick,
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_03: we have to be aware,
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_03: too,
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_03: the arguments they're going to use are always deflections where they say,
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to protect my deeply held religious beliefs.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_03: What belief?
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_03: You make them say the beliefs.
• 1:02:38
  And this is the whole dialogue of white supremacy where they
• 1:02:41
  they disguise their
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: evil with these kind of bland sounding phrases.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, our venerated traditions.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_03: You have to conform to our culture.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, what are you really?
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_03: We have to make them say it.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_03: And everybody in the chat, you have to we have to make them defend it.
• 1:02:55
  yeah we have to get better make them say what what beliefs you
• 1:02:59
  know what state's
• 1:03:00
  rights are you talking about you're talking about the right to
• 1:03:02
  own slaves you don't
• 1:03:04
  just ask them questions and they'll fumble every single time
• 1:03:07
  yeah just keep asking
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_03: them questions they're getting mad and it'll pin them into caroline mad
• 1:03:13
  you know they're like they're like um they're like suspects on
• 1:03:17
  cop shows they want
• 1:03:19
  to confess they want to confess because when they're by
• 1:03:23
  themselves when they don't
• 1:03:24
  think anyone else is listening and they're talking about
• 1:03:26
  themselves they say the
• 1:03:28
  they're not supposed to say yeah and they get really mad they
• 1:03:32
  can't say it out loud
• 1:03:34
  SPEAKER_03: yeah like they they think it's not fair
• 1:03:37
  that they can't walk around saying,
• 1:03:39
  I love being white because white people are smarter.
• 1:03:42
  I love being white and I think all the black people,
• 1:03:45
  the Jews should be killed.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_03: They want to say that out loud.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_03: And if you just, I mean, I do this all the time.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_03: When I'm poking trolls, I'm really, really fucking good at poking trolls.
• 1:03:58
  it's like it's it's a joy for me i just sit there and i i could
• 1:04:04
  do this for days
• 1:04:05
  because sooner or later i will get them to say the thing that
• 1:04:09
  they don't want to
• 1:04:10
  say out loud it's like a few it's like a few good men you need
• 1:04:14
  that few good men
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_03: you can't handle the truth moment i get this all the time right i did
• 1:04:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I get it all the time.
• 1:04:24
  You just poke a little,
• 1:04:25
  poke a little,
• 1:04:26
  poke a little,
• 1:04:26
  poke a little,
• 1:04:27
  poke a little.
• 1:04:27
  And sooner or later,
• 1:04:28
  they will forget to lie about what they're doing and why
• 1:04:31
  they're doing it.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I blew out.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_03: I'm back.
• 1:04:35
  And then you just get the screen cap of them saying the thing
• 1:04:38
  that they're not supposed to say.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_03: And it's delightful.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: We want those green cap.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_03: Ogre, sell yourself.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, this has been so much fucking fun.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_03: YouTube can get an Ogre sock for $9.99.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have one in rainbow?
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_03: Rainbow colors.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, damn.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_03: Where's my rainbow flag?
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, shit.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, wait.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_03: There it is.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: He'll be back.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_00: This has been so much fun.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_03: Plus, I got a rainbow flag.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: So yourself, my friend.
• 1:05:16
  Where can people find the work that you do,
• 1:05:18
  what you do,
• 1:05:18
  and how can they support you?
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_03: I am primarily on Substack.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_03: That is my main mode of communication and work.
• 1:05:27
  I'm also on Blue Sky,
• 1:05:29
  which is more of me just firing off random brain farts.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_03: And I am occasionally on TikTok, but mostly Substack.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: So you could definitely find me on Substack.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_03: Surprise, unopinionated Ogre.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Ogre.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_00: This has been so much fun.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_00: It has.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_03: I love Ogre.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_03: I love him.
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_00: Heck yeah.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_01: That was so awesome.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let me go through all our QR codes here real quick.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to get Eric, even though he's not here with us.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_00: Come follow the Pickleball Podiatrist with Dr. Eric Lulove.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_00: He's putting out some really good content,
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_00: some really good information about the medical side of things going on.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_02: Kind man.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_02: Just a kind man.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's a good dude.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's just a good dude.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_00: Come hang out with him.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: He's not asking for money.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_00: Go free subscribe with him.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's what this would be.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_00: He's not asking for anybody's money.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_00: He's actually contributing back to all so many of us in the community.
• 1:06:20
  SPEAKER_03: You should ask for Michael Cohen's money.
• 1:06:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_00: Michael Cohen should pay him.
• 1:06:27
  if you subscribe to michael cohen you should stop and go
• 1:06:29
  subscribe yes please
• 1:06:31
  please listen to that yes yeah and so come subscribe to eric
• 1:06:35
  because he's putting
• 1:06:36
  out really good stuff he was on featured on blue amp media the
• 1:06:38
  other day too uh for
• 1:06:40
  one of his articles and so just go subscribe to him he's
• 1:06:43
  putting out great work um
• 1:06:45
  and he's a good friend um he's he's a great dude to lean on um
• 1:06:49
  and someone i'm
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_00: learning from um
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_00: Evan, how about you, my brother?
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, yeah, I'm here on Substack.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_01: You can find my personal one, News from Underground.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_01: I also do a couple newsletters for Lincoln Square.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_01: You can find those over there.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_01: You can find me on threads at Evan Fields NFU.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm usually on there talking shit to a bunch of MAGA people,
• 1:07:11
  especially since they're making their way over from threads or
• 1:07:14
  from Twitter and
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_01: everything.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_01: So you can find me over there and hang out, cause some trouble.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: Subscribe to these guys.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_01: Subscribe to all of them.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: Make sure you support them.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate you, dude.
• 1:07:27
  And I see that you changed your name underneath Evan Fields to
• 1:07:32
  eligible bachelor.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_00: Evan Fields is now an eligible bachelor.
• 1:07:37
  So ladies or gentlemen,
• 1:07:39
  whichever,
• 1:07:41
  anywhere in between,
• 1:07:42
  Evan's an available bachelor.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's up to him on that.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_00: Walter, my friend, how about yourself?
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm trying to emulate the puppet here.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to be the human Muppet.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_03: It brings me so much joy.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, I was watching the Muppets the other day.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_03: So I just like this always makes me so happy.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_03: I love you, Ogre.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_03: We have to do this more often.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody's so busy.
• 1:08:05
  But yeah,
• 1:08:05
  anybody,
• 1:08:06
  everything,
• 1:08:06
  all my content is free,
• 1:08:07
  but the paid subscriptions make it work.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I offer my subscription tiers.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_03: So pay whatever you can.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_03: But more importantly, let's bring more people onto this platform.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_03: Follow everybody.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_03: Get people in your neighborhood.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_03: If you've got email lists, get people on here.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_03: We are all kind of cut off.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_03: I've kind of found this out.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_03: I was talking with the Mouthy Renegade writer.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_03: And Ogre, I know you know this.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_03: We don't get any growth anymore.
• 1:08:28
  Because Substack kind of figured out it's like massive growth
• 1:08:31
  for six months.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_03: And they're like, oh, shit.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_03: What's this guy saying?
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, he wants a decent society and prosperity for all.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: Fuck that guy.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_03: We definitely get throttled.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: So it's critical.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_03: You wonderful people.
• 1:08:43
  If you can find just one person in addition to yourself to come
• 1:08:47
  and subscribe,
• 1:08:47
  we just keep doing that exponentially because we need the whole
• 1:08:50
  world here.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_03: It's getting bigger.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_03: We're having more power.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: We're seeing our power.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_03: It's coming through.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: Once we've identified what we're up against,
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_03: we're up against white supremacy and they're insane.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_03: These people are up against are insane.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_03: They're the most evil people ever.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_03: They control the entire media.
• 1:09:06
  we need your help a grassroots movement will win this and we
• 1:09:11
  this is the extinction
• 1:09:12
  burst of white supremacy we got to make it so it's gonna it's
• 1:09:15
  gonna require your
• 1:09:16
  help it's gonna require your support so please again thank you
• 1:09:19
  for being here thank
• 1:09:20
  you for doing the hard work with us love you all love you ogre
• 1:09:22
  and evan and nick
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_03: and then i'll pass it on to who
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Walter.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, guys.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is all of us.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is so much fun.
• 1:09:31
  This is just this is our men's group coming out in our chat,
• 1:09:35
  just coming out into a live view.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_00: And we welcomed Ogre on today as one of our guests.
• 1:09:40
  And hopefully we'll have him back quite a few times because
• 1:09:43
  this has been so much fucking fun.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_00: You're a blast to hang out with.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_00: But come hang out with me at Sick of This Shit publications.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm doing a lot of men's issues and men's talk.
• 1:09:51
  And part of breaking down white supremacy is challenging what
• 1:09:55
  masculinity is and
• 1:09:57
  defining the new version and defining a new masculinity that
• 1:10:01
  doesn't suck,
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_00: that isn't corrosive,
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_00: that isn't breaking things down.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so...
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: You've seen two of the three on this show right now.
• 1:10:09
  You've seen three of the four that have been here on the
• 1:10:12
  Intelligent Masculinity Series.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Ogre's coming on here soon, too.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a great... I'm having so much fun.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: And like Walter said, we just need to boost the numbers.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Not because...
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_00: I want the numbers up because I want men to feel better.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_00: I want men to be better.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: I want women to trust men.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_00: I want women to see that men are getting better.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_00: I want everyone around us,
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: anywhere in between,
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: whatever you are,
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to see that men are getting better.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_00: and that men are trying and that the more we do this,
• 1:10:45
  we can replace Joe Rogan and Peter Thiel or not Peter and Theo
• 1:10:49
  Vaughn and that
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_00: group of people,
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Nick Fuentes and that shit,
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_00: those shitty people,
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: Ben Shapiro,
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_00: we can replace them with a Walter Ryan and Evan Fields,
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_00: an opinionated ogre,
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_00: an Eric Lulove, a Nick Pero, a Lawrence Winterman, all of us.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_00: We can do that.
• 1:11:08
  And I'm just saying some of the men,
• 1:11:09
  there are some incredible women out there too.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Don't worry.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_00: You all know the women out there that I support wholeheartedly.
• 1:11:17
  Like wouldn't be here without Melissa Corrigan or Ellie Leonard
• 1:11:21
  or Dana Dubois or
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_00: those,
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_00: any of that group.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like these women have helped
• 1:11:27
  grow this community in an immeasurable way and i'm just
• 1:11:31
  following in their legacy
• 1:11:32
  i'm following in their footsteps to help men grow better too
• 1:11:36
  they're the barometer
• 1:11:37
  for doing good yeah women shouldn't be the only ones doing the
• 1:11:40
  hard work we need to
• 1:11:41
  do it too so come join us come join me at sick of this shit
• 1:11:44
  publications you'll see
• 1:11:46
  me with zev shalev here i'm gonna hop on that stream i'm trying
• 1:11:50
  to feel better
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_00: throughout the day um
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_00: and get it on that stream.
• 1:11:55
  But I want to get my opinion out there on what's going on on
• 1:11:57
  the Jack Smith stuff,
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_00: because it's important as hell.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they're trying to whitewash history in front of our eyes.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_00: So let's go do it, y'all.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_00: When one member of the party is attacked, we all roll for initiative.
• 1:12:11
  SPEAKER_03: That's what the shirt says.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_03: We all roll for initiative.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, I got that shirt.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_00: We're going to roll for initiative right now,
• 1:12:16
  and we're just going to keep putting fucking truth out there
• 1:12:18
  all the time.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_00: Buddy Christ says, go get this shit done.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: We're sick of this shit, and we're doing it.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, y'all.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_00: This has been so much fucking fun.
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Have a great day.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_00: Have a great afternoon, everyone.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_00: I look forward to seeing y'all when I'm with Zev Shalev.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, friends.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right, love you guys.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, everybody.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_02: Love y'all.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_02: Love y'all, too.