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Jags Drive Time: Monday, August 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: I'm celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Down, Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: we'll pergade the drab. The Tigers are gonna win. They're
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Speaker 1: still time. Jeff Wars, did you don't, Jack Warris? Did
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Speaker 1: you Jaguars drive Time? Ryan Sex steps to John. Actually,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars drive Time starts right now. Conversations. We're happy to
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Speaker 1: having back and ready to go. So we're excited. He's
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Speaker 1: ready to go, even great shape, and John has always
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Speaker 1: been a great shape, ready to go. He's an anxious guy.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't he doesn't like taking it that way. You know.
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Speaker 1: He wants to get in there and he's ready to go.
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Speaker 1: He wants to go all the way. Doune Morown commenting
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Speaker 1: on unique in gog Ways and to his holdout. He's
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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore, as are. We live in Baltimore from
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Speaker 1: the team hotel, getting ready for the Jaguars first preseason
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Speaker 1: game on Thursday. We'll have drive time year from what
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Speaker 1: looks like our dungeon. It's actually a conference room, but
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Speaker 1: because of lightning, we had to make it dungeon like.
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Speaker 1: But before we leave, we'll show you the We have
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Speaker 1: nice views. You just can't the harbor water the whole
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Speaker 1: nine yards as usual. I'm in a dark place as usual. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: no surprise for you. So we're here live Monday, Tuesday
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Speaker 1: and Thursday this week for drivetime. But let's get into
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Speaker 1: big things really quick. Obviously, Big Thing one to us here,
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Speaker 1: unique and gock Way. He spoke to the media yesterday
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Speaker 1: and was short and sweet, wanted to stick to football
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Speaker 1: and did not want to talk contract. I mean, at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, they had a chance to
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Speaker 1: sign me for a long term deal, but it didn't
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Speaker 1: get done. So it is what it is. I'm just here,
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Speaker 1: like I said, I love football, I love my teammates,
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Speaker 1: and I'm here to play games. Is there any chance
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Speaker 1: you have deals could get done before the season starts?
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Speaker 1: Out of my hands, I don't even know. Big Thing
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Speaker 1: too is an injury update. Dunbar And spoke to us yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver did not make the trip.
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Speaker 1: Ridewell Arms said is dealing with a quad injury but
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Speaker 1: didn't make the trip. And Big Thing three is Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: Where here training with the Ravens today and tomorrow. Day
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Speaker 1: off on Wednesday, and obviously the first preseason game on Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Very excited for a change of sceniory guys. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: it's a good change of senior You'll get to see
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Speaker 1: all of these guys work against other players. Probably most
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Speaker 1: interesting for the offensive and defensive linemen, uh when they
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Speaker 1: start facing different looks. It's significant, and uh for the
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Speaker 1: cornerbacks as well, when they started facing a little different offense.
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Speaker 1: But I've always been interested in and watching the first
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Speaker 1: team offensive line versus the other first team defensive line
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Speaker 1: vice versa. In the last two years, we saw Tom
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Speaker 1: Brady and then we saw the eight four million dollar
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Speaker 1: quarterback Kerk Cousins. This year you get Lamar Jackson, and
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Speaker 1: no one in Baltimore is quite certain of exactly what
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Speaker 1: he is yet. He came from Louisville, obviously, is a
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Speaker 1: fabulous athlete, incredible running quarterback. From what I've read, he
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Speaker 1: hasn't been that impressive as a pastor yet. So I'm
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Speaker 1: interested to see what kind of looks the Jaguars defense get.
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Speaker 1: But this sort of prack is not where he's gonna shine.
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Speaker 1: He's a guy who's got to have stuff going. It's
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Speaker 1: not like you're lining up and you're getting tested by
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady one on one with the receiver. That's what
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Speaker 1: you will those sees. Because the Ravens for years have
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Speaker 1: had a reputation that they have lived up to on
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Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive lines. They're very good on the inside.
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Speaker 1: So it will be the first real test of the
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Speaker 1: season for the Jaguars offensive and defensive lines. So let's
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Speaker 1: go back to big thing. One unique and got way
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Speaker 1: ending his holdout yesterday the press conference. I mean he
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Speaker 1: was very tense. Chip on the shoulder is definitely still there.
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Speaker 1: Uh said the deal did not get done and did
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Speaker 1: not want to talk about it, sticking with football. But
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Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't like I thought he could be.
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Speaker 1: I mean, when he's not happy, he can be just
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Speaker 1: downright difficult. Um he I didn't think he was. I
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Speaker 1: thought he handled it professionally. He came in to look.
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Speaker 1: They they had a chance to do a long term deal.
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Speaker 1: They didn't do it. I don't know why. I'm not
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Speaker 1: worried about. He was asked, you know, do you expect
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Speaker 1: something to get done? He said, I don't even know.
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Speaker 1: I'm out of the loop. That's why I am an agent.
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Speaker 1: I was impressed with the way that he handed himself
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Speaker 1: Because you've been around him when he's been snippy. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that how I handled it. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: surprised at what he said. I think my guess is
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Speaker 1: he's known for a couple of weeks exactly when he's
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Speaker 1: coming in. Um, I don't think there is going to
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Speaker 1: be any more movement on the Jaguars part. Maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: wrong about that. I don't think there's been any for
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Speaker 1: a while. So it felt to me like the reality
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Speaker 1: and the situation, the signpost if you will, have had
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Speaker 1: a chance to sink in for him, so he sort
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Speaker 1: of knows what it is. I don't think it was
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Speaker 1: a case where they were going up until um eleven
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Speaker 1: o'clock on Saturday night and then he said, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm going in and I'm mad about it. I think
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Speaker 1: he knew all this was the date. This was when
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Speaker 1: he had to get in by free agency. So whatever
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Speaker 1: anger there was, which I'm sure there is inside had
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Speaker 1: time to process. It wouldn't have been any good idea
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Speaker 1: to let that show and come in and act childish.
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Speaker 1: I thought he handled it well. He did, And look
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Speaker 1: the leverages set up by the collective bargain and he
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Speaker 1: doesn't have it yet he exercised and he hasn't cost
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Speaker 1: almost a half a million dollars in fines. The ending
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Speaker 1: on how much the Jaguars decide to enforce that. Although
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Speaker 1: if I was a fellow owner, I'd expect the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: to enforce that because then none of our finds have
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Speaker 1: any teeth. But to some degree he'll have to pay
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Speaker 1: for it, and he chose that he has no leverage.
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Speaker 1: Now the Jaguars have all the leverage on the deal,
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Speaker 1: and so even more because they have the franchise tag
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Speaker 1: next year. So I was impressed because he came in
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Speaker 1: understanding the situation and knowing that he can't win by
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Speaker 1: being rude, by being angry, by being flippant. He only
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Speaker 1: wins when he comes in and he plays hard and
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Speaker 1: puts up the numbers. It also fits what he has
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Speaker 1: been throughout this He he started getting questions about the
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Speaker 1: contracts of late last season, because that's when it becomes pertinent.
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Speaker 1: He was getting ready to come up on the time
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Speaker 1: where a new contract could be a topic because you
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Speaker 1: couldn't negotiate before that. And he's always been a guy
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Speaker 1: who has been first informs. His thing is I love
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Speaker 1: the game, I want to be here for the game,
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Speaker 1: all teammates say, loves it. This is what he cares about.
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Speaker 1: Also wants to get paid. So he has done a
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Speaker 1: good job for the last what eight or nine months,
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Speaker 1: and we're talking to the super Bowl at the same topic,
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Speaker 1: keeping it separate, always saying, look, I'm going to play
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Speaker 1: no matter what I You know, it's almost like an attic.
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Speaker 1: I can't be away from this game, even though I
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Speaker 1: know I've got to get the money thing taken care of.
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Speaker 1: So my guess is his agent was probably very strong
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Speaker 1: keeping him away from O. T. A. S and from
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Speaker 1: and and that was the absolutely But from Unique's point
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Speaker 1: of view, there's a boy in him who's a twelve
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Speaker 1: of your whole boy who loves playing football. That it.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it killed him to be away. So that's
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Speaker 1: another reason he was happy. S D gets chance to
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Speaker 1: his teammates, gets a chance to where he feels like
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Speaker 1: he belongs. You know, he has always had a chip
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Speaker 1: on his shoulder. He always will. People say, well, now
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Speaker 1: he's gonna play even harder. No he's not, because he's
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Speaker 1: always played that way. The question is how many opportunities
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Speaker 1: does he get? How is he impacted by Josh Allen's presence,
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Speaker 1: do the drag Wars have more leads this year with
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles is the quarterback, which means he could do
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Speaker 1: what he does best. Look when you're having to play
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Speaker 1: the run on first, second, and third down in the
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Speaker 1: third quarter, if you're a pass rusher, it is not
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Speaker 1: good business for you. He's betting on the Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: on himself that this will be the year that they
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Speaker 1: either have to pay him or is I have in
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Speaker 1: a in a hot tap coming up, have to trade him,
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Speaker 1: And you go back to all the way back to
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Speaker 1: O t s when un he can Gothway said, no
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Speaker 1: matter what, I'm gonna be here present, and then a
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Speaker 1: week later he Wasn't you know that. I think that
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Speaker 1: was from the heart and he wanted to be and
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Speaker 1: I think the business side of it, it was absolutely
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Speaker 1: within the context of how this whole league is set up.
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Speaker 1: In it, he did what he could do to make
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Speaker 1: his point until it reached a point where making his
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Speaker 1: point was going to cost him something down the road
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Speaker 1: and free agency, so uh he would say, well, you
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Speaker 1: have a contract. You shouldn't be doing this. You'd be
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Speaker 1: holding out within the context of the league. He did
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Speaker 1: what for himself he needed to do, and now he's
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Speaker 1: also doing for himself what he needs to do, which
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Speaker 1: is to be here, have a big year and get
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Speaker 1: paid that if he was your son or if he
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Speaker 1: was your client during voluntary o t as, you would
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Speaker 1: have held him out to that made no sense whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: And somewhere along the line is he's decides that he's
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Speaker 1: going to pay the fine for not showing up. You know,
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Speaker 1: you would have encouraged him to start thinking about when
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Speaker 1: that number gets too big and you talk about those fines.
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Speaker 1: He's expect to make two point oh two this year
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Speaker 1: and now has over half a million dollars in fines. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it's interesting because I'm gonna get too deep into
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Speaker 1: the fine thing, but um, there's a feeling. Well, fines
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Speaker 1: get rescented when the player shows up. That's when they
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Speaker 1: sign a big deal and the team comes to an agreement.
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Speaker 1: In this case, there is a reason the finds exists.
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Speaker 1: According to the teams in the c v A, the
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Speaker 1: fines exist because contractually, from the team's point of view,
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Speaker 1: they don't want players doing this. So I'd be surprised
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Speaker 1: that the fines are scented very much until there's a
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Speaker 1: deal again, the league, the collective bargain agreement, the management council,
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Speaker 1: the owners are going to say, hey, we have a
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Speaker 1: fine schedule for a reason. If you don't hold and
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Speaker 1: that agent comes to me about a player on my team,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold it unless you set a precedent so
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Speaker 1: he's gonna pay something. All right, let's quickly get a
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Speaker 1: big thing to Quincy Williams and Josh Oliver not making
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Speaker 1: the trip. I can go back to a week and
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Speaker 1: a half ago knocking on woods saying things are good,
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Speaker 1: we have nothing to complain about, no injuries. Now you
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Speaker 1: have two of your draft picks not making the trip
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Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Is it a big deal? It's it's there's
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Speaker 1: good news and bad news in this. The bad news.
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Speaker 1: If these were veterans, I don't think you'd be that
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Speaker 1: big of a deal because they're ready. Their rookies who
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Speaker 1: you need to count on. They're not even really first
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Speaker 1: round rookies. Their rookies who you're trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: sort of what they are. So that's not great. I
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Speaker 1: think it's more important for Josh Oliver bee on the
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Speaker 1: field and Quincy Williams simply because tight end needs to
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Speaker 1: be more in sync with the offense week side linebacker.
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Speaker 1: The Quincy plays, Uh, you need to know the defense,
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Speaker 1: but it's more on can you go get the ball?
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Speaker 1: We know he can go get the ball. The good news,
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Speaker 1: the great news is we're not sitting here talking about
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Speaker 1: that two thousand any with these guys. We're sitting here
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Speaker 1: talking about what time they return in two thousand. We're
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Speaker 1: still five weeks away from the stage or four weeks
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Speaker 1: away from the season. So let's keep it in perspective. Yes,
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Speaker 1: they're not there, but um, so far knock on whatever
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Speaker 1: this is not would really stance more of like a
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Speaker 1: from Mike Finish the bummer is there. Both third round
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Speaker 1: picks and third round picks are money picks. That's where
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Speaker 1: you find quality starters who play at a fixed cost,
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Speaker 1: a low cost for a couple of years. And both
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Speaker 1: round picks. Guys you're going to count on Now you
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Speaker 1: have to wait till they return, and then how long
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Speaker 1: does it take to get them up speed? We'll see,
10:37
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Speaker 1: hot takes. Brian, you have a hot one to day
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Speaker 1: Light Grill Done. I've used him. They're good. Here's my
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Speaker 1: hot one, UH Unique and Goquay. Coming in at two
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Speaker 1: point four million dollars roughly, UH is good business for
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars because his contract is ultimate lead tradeable. In
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Speaker 1: other words, he's come in. You've said, and I agree
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Speaker 1: with you, that you're not going to increase your offer.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna play at that two point four million and
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Speaker 1: bet on himself, except he doesn't have the leverage at
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Speaker 1: the end of next year because you've got the franchise tad.
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Speaker 1: So I don't think you can make him happy. And
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Speaker 1: I think if he comes in and he gets off
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Speaker 1: to a good start, the best thing you can do
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Speaker 1: to ensure that you have something that you get for
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Speaker 1: him is to trade him in October. Now, I get it,
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Speaker 1: people don't want to Why do you trade to pass
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Speaker 1: Rusher and what you can do with the three? But
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking business wise. I'm thinking long term. If he
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Speaker 1: had come in and signed the new deal at nineteen
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Speaker 1: million per there's no trade market for him whatsoever at all,
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Speaker 1: because no one's taking that contract and giving up picks.
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Speaker 1: But look what Kansas City did d Ford. Unken Gotckway
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Speaker 1: roughly the same player, same size. What d Ford did
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Speaker 1: last year was what Unique and Gottway did in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen thirteen sacks, seven forced bumbles. The Chiefs
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Speaker 1: traded him for a second round pick, then sent draft
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Speaker 1: picks at had Frank Clark an immense amount of cash
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. With Josh Allen sitting right there, they
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Speaker 1: have incredible flexibility. They spent a first round pick, they
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Speaker 1: didn't send a pick away, and they have him pay
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Speaker 1: a playing for a rookie top ten contract for the
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Speaker 1: next four years plus the option year. I don't know
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Speaker 1: whether they're going to do it or not. I don't
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Speaker 1: know whether they want to do it or not. But
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Speaker 1: the two point four million dollars the unique and Gogway
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Speaker 1: is playing for this year gives the Jaguars a huge,
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Speaker 1: huge lever to use within Gockway in October to at
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Speaker 1: least get something for him, because someone will take that
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Speaker 1: contract for the second half of a season and pay
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Speaker 1: him whatever's left on it and then have the right
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Speaker 1: to franchise him. Well. Wait, I wouldn't put this down
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Speaker 1: for um a well laid out plan, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure in this situation with the Jaguars there is
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Speaker 1: a Plan B, Plan A. Plan You have to um.
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Speaker 1: The only reason I don't think what you're talking about
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Speaker 1: is the Plan A is if it was, I don't
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Speaker 1: think the sides would have gotten as close as they
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Speaker 1: did in the last few weeks. Yeah, but you know
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Speaker 1: how that goes. You throw an offer out there, it's
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Speaker 1: your best offered. They didn't get as close enough for
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Speaker 1: him to sign. The dealers them in. But the fact
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Speaker 1: that they were talking and the fact that it got
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Speaker 1: that there was back and forth is the reason. I
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Speaker 1: don't think what you're talking about is necessarily a done deal.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a possible. I don't think it's done
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Speaker 1: deal there is. Here's why it makes sense because he's
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Speaker 1: a two pound pass rush. It makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 1: He does one thing exceptionally well. He goes and gets
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. But the Chiefs showed you last year that
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Speaker 1: those guys are not worthy of the mega market setting
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Speaker 1: deals the kind that don't allow you to keep players
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Speaker 1: if they pay him one of those deals and next
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Speaker 1: year they have to pay a deal out to Jalen Ramsey.
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Speaker 1: How many players do you have to move on from? Right?
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Speaker 1: You can't have too many of them are on paper
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Speaker 1: in the lean your way, it's very hard to let it.
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Speaker 1: Shouldn't be a drafted player who's a good pass rusher
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Speaker 1: out of your building. It's very enticing, and I think
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Speaker 1: it's difficult for them to actually do. Although it should
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Speaker 1: lean towards what you're talking about. It shouldn't you drafteds
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Speaker 1: you drafted At some point you have to let somebody go.
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Speaker 1: And the question is, is unique in Gockway two pound
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Speaker 1: pass rusher worthy of letting three or four guys go.
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Speaker 1: I say no. I say this deal that he has
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Speaker 1: right now two point four million gives the Jaguars great leverage.
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Speaker 1: Someone is going to pay him. I just don't think
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Speaker 1: it should be this franchise. I think they'll figure out
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Speaker 1: a way to do it. Maybe not the greatest decision,
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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. You were listening to NFL Network yesterday
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Speaker 1: and in Rappaport was doing the report and he said,
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Speaker 1: if he hits the open market, he's getting twenty million easily.
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Speaker 1: Some team is going to pay him. So that's why
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Speaker 1: you trade him in October to someone who will pay
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Speaker 1: him so you get something for it. That's a smart
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Speaker 1: business move. This guy is tech savvy. Let me tell
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Speaker 1: you thought, John, you have the hottest take of the day,
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Speaker 1: and it's not gonna sound really really really hot. But
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Speaker 1: I think the receivers are gonna be good. And by
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Speaker 1: that I mean I think they're gonna be much much
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Speaker 1: better than people think. I don't know that I believe
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Speaker 1: this going into training camp. Um. The reason that I'm
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Speaker 1: more and more leaning towards them being good and possibly
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Speaker 1: even being a strength is what I've seen from DJ
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Speaker 1: Chark the last two practices. I think we sort of
17:31
Speaker 1: have an idea what Chris Connley is going to be.
17:34
Speaker 1: Um We've seen d D. Westbrook what he could do
17:36
Speaker 1: last year, and it seems like d D he's doing this,
17:40
Speaker 1: and I think everybody who's watched practice it feels very
17:44
Speaker 1: confident in what they're gonna get from d D. Westbrook.
17:46
Speaker 1: That's not really a unknown anymore. The huge unknown ever
17:49
Speaker 1: since he's been drafted has been will DJ Chark be
17:53
Speaker 1: a one? Will he be dynamic? Will he be all
17:55
Speaker 1: those things that you need him to be as a
17:57
Speaker 1: second round pick who they liked in the first round,
18:00
Speaker 1: or will he be a guy who you say, well,
18:02
Speaker 1: drafted him a secon around what do you got? I
18:06
Speaker 1: think he had fourteen catches this first year, so didn't
18:09
Speaker 1: really show that much on offense. In the last two days,
18:13
Speaker 1: he's not only had the catch we talked about on
18:16
Speaker 1: Drivetime the other day where uh yards down the field
18:19
Speaker 1: to change the field, he's had balls across the middle
18:23
Speaker 1: where he looks very confident going across the middle where
18:25
Speaker 1: he catches the ball he makes plays, he makes people miss.
18:28
Speaker 1: He looks like the athletic guy, the playmaker that they hope.
18:34
Speaker 1: If he's that, if he's even a guy who goes
18:36
Speaker 1: from think he had a hundred and fifty yards receiving
18:38
Speaker 1: last year. I think he's showing where he can be
18:41
Speaker 1: a twelve yard guy, not this year. If he even
18:44
Speaker 1: jumps to eight fifty and seven touchdowns. Uh, where we're
18:48
Speaker 1: saying at the end of the season, Boy, this is
18:50
Speaker 1: what this guy might be. If you package that with
18:53
Speaker 1: Conley and Westbrook, how much better is the offense? Huge? Well,
18:57
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch Westbrook at Oklahoma, he
19:00
Speaker 1: looks like the Sean Jackson did when he came out
19:02
Speaker 1: of Cow. Uh. The run to catch guy who then
19:07
Speaker 1: runs splits the defense. Uh, That's what I've seen from
19:11
Speaker 1: him so far. I think he opens things up. You
19:13
Speaker 1: mentioned Conley is what he is. Commen is going to
19:15
Speaker 1: get his catches. If Westbrook and Connolly are the focus,
19:19
Speaker 1: then Chark can do what he does and get better
19:21
Speaker 1: and not worry about seeing the safety over the top
19:23
Speaker 1: of him, which is what a speed guy generally does. Well,
19:25
Speaker 1: Slynn laughed at my little wide receiver hot take. I
19:28
Speaker 1: think is very hot because he emailed me. I said, John,
19:31
Speaker 1: give me, give me a hot take, and the wide
19:33
Speaker 1: receivers will be good. Well, that's why I brought the
19:36
Speaker 1: heat out of the top. Most people are expecting the
19:38
Speaker 1: wide receivers to be bad. I think we did a
19:41
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. I don't think bad. I just
19:43
Speaker 1: I think nationally, if you looked at it, people would
19:45
Speaker 1: say this is because there's no because Leo Jones, there's
19:49
Speaker 1: no Deandres Hopkins or Mike Williams. You know they don't
19:52
Speaker 1: have those guys, but they don't need to if they've
19:54
Speaker 1: got three or four guys. As you've alluded to. Keenan
19:57
Speaker 1: McCardell wide receivers coach believes he's got a couple of
20:00
Speaker 1: guys that can fill roles and with Nick Foles throwing
20:03
Speaker 1: the bowl accurately, which he does much better than the
20:06
Speaker 1: previous quarterback, they should be able to put guys in
20:09
Speaker 1: positions to make catches and make plays after the catch,
20:12
Speaker 1: which we haven't seen around here in a while. You
20:14
Speaker 1: guys don't think my take is hot, No, John, we do.
20:17
Speaker 1: Don't get your feelings hurt. I thought take is losing.
20:21
Speaker 1: Josh Oliver Draft picked the tight end is not the
20:24
Speaker 1: end of the world for the Jaggers because they have options.
20:26
Speaker 1: If you go back to last offseason, we said they
20:28
Speaker 1: really need to fix the tight end room. They need
20:30
Speaker 1: more options. They brought in Jeff Swam and free agency,
20:33
Speaker 1: and to me, he seems like the number one guy.
20:35
Speaker 1: We were unsure at first when training camp started if
20:38
Speaker 1: it was gonna be Josh Oliver and Jeff Swain. Swam
20:40
Speaker 1: has seemed to emerge as fulls number one target. So
20:43
Speaker 1: losing Josh Oliver it stinks seeing the reps and he
20:46
Speaker 1: definitely had a great camp. It was a good draft pick.
20:49
Speaker 1: But I think Jeff Swam is emerging as that number
20:51
Speaker 1: one guy. Therefore, if he missed a couple of weeks,
20:54
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. I would have
20:55
Speaker 1: liked to have seen them grab more than one tight
20:57
Speaker 1: end of the draft, and look big. I've told you
20:59
Speaker 1: the story. I was sitting there on the phone waiting
21:01
Speaker 1: to go into the green room in Nashville and I
21:03
Speaker 1: was going to get the tight end from Hockinson from
21:07
Speaker 1: from Iowa, and they took Josh Allen because he was there.
21:11
Speaker 1: They didn't plan on him being there. They were going
21:13
Speaker 1: to address the tight end position early because they knew
21:15
Speaker 1: it was a position of importance. The board didn't unfold
21:18
Speaker 1: that way. Swam as a guy. I don't think anybody
21:20
Speaker 1: should see him as Zacher's, but he's a guy who
21:23
Speaker 1: can at least move the change and keep things going.
21:26
Speaker 1: I think if you don't have Josh Oliver that Terrell
21:29
Speaker 1: Pryor becomes more of a key. He's the wrong word,
21:33
Speaker 1: but he's gonna make your squad because he's another tight
21:35
Speaker 1: end body who runs the slants and can kind of
21:38
Speaker 1: keep things moving until you get Josh Oliver back. He's
21:41
Speaker 1: almost gonna fill in in that spot once or twice
21:43
Speaker 1: a practice, see prime and make a play. Well he
21:46
Speaker 1: started there. He's got more reps there the tight end position.
21:50
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21:53
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Speaker 1: You're it this morning. I'm all right. Let's go to
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Speaker 1: Robert from St. Augustine, Florida. Not including quarterback Nick Foles.
24:05
Speaker 1: Who do you think are the top three Jags we
24:07
Speaker 1: can most ill afford losing for an extended period? Um,
24:12
Speaker 1: I'd say all three. On defense, I'd say it's Clais Campbell, Miles, Jack,
24:17
Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsay, probably not in that order. Probably go
24:19
Speaker 1: to Calais, Jalen and Miles. Uh. I steered away from
24:24
Speaker 1: saying offense because I don't know that any one particular
24:28
Speaker 1: person offensively. If you have a rash of injuries like
24:31
Speaker 1: I did last year, then you're in big trouble. Um.
24:33
Speaker 1: I don't usually I think losing Taylor and or Robinson
24:39
Speaker 1: would hurt. But I feel like at those positions you
24:43
Speaker 1: have a couple of guys who can step in on
24:45
Speaker 1: the offensive line where you wouldn't have huge drop off
24:47
Speaker 1: losing Calais, I don't want to think about it, losing Jalen,
24:50
Speaker 1: I don't want think about losing Miles. I don't want
24:51
Speaker 1: to think about it. For the sake of argument, just
24:54
Speaker 1: adding an offensive player there, I'll say for not because
24:56
Speaker 1: we saw last year what he meant, the drop off,
24:58
Speaker 1: what he met at the offense. Quarterback though that's not
25:00
Speaker 1: supposed to make it's not supposed to matter as much,
25:03
Speaker 1: but let's be honest. I mean, Nick Foles is not
25:04
Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Drew Brees. He's a guy who needs
25:07
Speaker 1: an offense built around him. Having Leonard in the threat
25:10
Speaker 1: of Leonard that with the passing game should work hand
25:13
Speaker 1: in hand. I know people are excited about Armstead, the
25:16
Speaker 1: rookie draft choice from from a Temple, but I'm telling you,
25:20
Speaker 1: if you lose four net we saw the drop off
25:22
Speaker 1: last year, I think that will hurt. They're in better
25:24
Speaker 1: shape this year to go that way. I don't disagree
25:26
Speaker 1: that they're in better shape. Still think it'll hurt, but
25:29
Speaker 1: you go to not having that true number one wide receiver.
25:31
Speaker 1: If you lose the one on most teams, you're in trouble.
25:33
Speaker 1: But because this team has so many options that wide
25:35
Speaker 1: receiver that are kind of on the same level, that's
25:37
Speaker 1: position you feel okay with. I mean a part of
25:40
Speaker 1: it is on offense. They're not as good in terms
25:44
Speaker 1: of standout personnel as they are on defense. So losing
25:49
Speaker 1: the players, there's not as much of a drop off
25:51
Speaker 1: as there would be from a Campbell, a Ramsey and
25:53
Speaker 1: a Jack who I think you dropped down to where
25:57
Speaker 1: you're talking about guys who are significantly not as good
26:00
Speaker 1: as well. You're talking about elite talent, and when you
26:02
Speaker 1: when you lose that level, you can't possibly have someone
26:05
Speaker 1: about right. I think this team is gonna make the playoffs.
26:08
Speaker 1: The Ovens has to be improved, and the three guys
26:10
Speaker 1: I talked about on defense, all three of those guys
26:13
Speaker 1: have to a couple of games change the game in
26:16
Speaker 1: the Jaguars favor. Without that, I think they lose games
26:18
Speaker 1: fair enough. All right, let's go to Daniel from Jersey City,
26:21
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Oh Man, I know it's early, but if
26:23
Speaker 1: any players surprised you yet, well, I don't know about surprised.
26:27
Speaker 1: I always always struggle to know what surprises are because
26:30
Speaker 1: everybody looks at a team differently. But to me, what
26:32
Speaker 1: I talked about earlier, DJ Chark and D D. Westbrook,
26:37
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to have a whole lot of confidence
26:39
Speaker 1: in the receiving corps going in. UM, those two guys
26:43
Speaker 1: have surprised me with the level they've reached. And again
26:48
Speaker 1: in the last week. DJ Chark has looked more to
26:51
Speaker 1: me like an athletic player, an elite type guy, than
26:56
Speaker 1: I expected him to be. So I would say those
26:58
Speaker 1: two Putsy william just think about, and you want to
27:02
Speaker 1: m herndon't because he's taken a significant step forward from
27:05
Speaker 1: where he was at the end of last season. UM
27:08
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams because who thought that the kid from Murray
27:11
Speaker 1: State did no one knew anything about, would step in
27:13
Speaker 1: with the first team defense, with this first team defense
27:16
Speaker 1: and make us go tell them who? Um? And then
27:20
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor because he just looks ready to fucking play
27:23
Speaker 1: and be a ten year you know, starting right tackle
27:27
Speaker 1: and maybe a Pro Bowl caliber tackle. The guy who
27:29
Speaker 1: might make sense in this list too. It's always tough
27:33
Speaker 1: the safety position in training camp, it's always tough because
27:39
Speaker 1: really it's about coming down and hitting, about coverage. So
27:43
Speaker 1: I don't know that we get to see a lot
27:44
Speaker 1: of the stage position until they start playing games. Todd
27:46
Speaker 1: Washing to day was asked about Jared Wilson and made
27:49
Speaker 1: a comment that was interesting. He said, well, j w
27:51
Speaker 1: doesn't make mistakes. That's why he had gotten on him
27:54
Speaker 1: in in a practice before. Um, that's pretty high praise
27:57
Speaker 1: from Wash. He's not really given to you're throwing guys
28:01
Speaker 1: up if they don't need it. So if that's the case,
28:04
Speaker 1: if he's functioning that well, if he knows things that well,
28:06
Speaker 1: if they like him that much, then I think maybe
28:08
Speaker 1: he would surprise people as well. The guy that I
28:10
Speaker 1: didn't think about until yesterday when Dunro mentioned was naj
28:13
Speaker 1: good with linebackers. I mean, you need depth at that
28:15
Speaker 1: position for sure. Miles is the main guy, but without
28:18
Speaker 1: telling you need guys step up. He's someone that I've
28:21
Speaker 1: seen making plays, but he isn't that standout guy. But
28:23
Speaker 1: when Doug went out of his way to compliment him,
28:24
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, he is a breakout guys, Nate,
28:26
Speaker 1: your guy has been in the league for a long time.
28:28
Speaker 1: For a reason. All right, let's wrap it up with
28:31
Speaker 1: Nick from Florida Zone. After taking in a few practices,
28:35
Speaker 1: do you think the Jack's offense will be improved enough
28:37
Speaker 1: to overcome what maybe a bit of a drop off
28:39
Speaker 1: in defensive progress concerning the fact that Miles jack is
28:42
Speaker 1: our only real NFL caliber starter at linebacker. Yeah, this
28:46
Speaker 1: question surprised me a bit. I guess from the outside
28:51
Speaker 1: there's a perception that the defense might slide a little
28:53
Speaker 1: bit um, and I assume that's because they've lost Helvin
28:57
Speaker 1: and perhaps because they lost a Sewan Gibson. But beyond
29:02
Speaker 1: I don't look at this defense and think, boy, they're
29:04
Speaker 1: gonna drop off from what they've been. I think they're
29:06
Speaker 1: adding Josh Allen Um. Malik Jackson's the other loss from
29:10
Speaker 1: last year. But we all know that Malik was not
29:12
Speaker 1: playing at the level at the end of last season
29:14
Speaker 1: as he had been when he's a Pro Bowl in
29:16
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen. Uh, Telvin Smith the same way.
29:18
Speaker 1: I don't think he was playing at the level last years.
29:20
Speaker 1: He wasn't two thous and seventeen. I don't think it's
29:23
Speaker 1: gonna be a defensive drop off unless you have a
29:25
Speaker 1: rash of injuries like you did on offense last year.
29:28
Speaker 1: So we've all been saying all along, if this defense
29:32
Speaker 1: is here, the offense was here. If the offense gets
29:35
Speaker 1: to hear, then you're a lot better. So I do
29:38
Speaker 1: think the offence is going to be improved, But I
29:40
Speaker 1: don't have any sense that Barrings something unforeseen that the
29:43
Speaker 1: defense is gonna be worse. Bowls should be able to
29:45
Speaker 1: get you there when we come back. We'll rack up
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Speaker 1: Let's get into some top tweets to wrap up the show.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with Klais Campbell and Peyton Manning, who is
31:59
Speaker 1: in jack Spill. Last week watching training camp, Calais tweeted,
32:02
Speaker 1: the only quarterback on my list that I didn't sack.
32:05
Speaker 1: My thirteen year old self would be proud of me.
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Speaker 1: The first time I met this man, I wanted to
32:09
Speaker 1: be just like him. P s. I did catch a
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Speaker 1: pick from him though, when we were watching the two
32:14
Speaker 1: of them stand next to each other at training camp,
32:16
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, that's pretty cool that Calais is
32:18
Speaker 1: going out of his way to learn from a guy
32:20
Speaker 1: like Payton Manning at practice. Absolutely. Yeah, a chance to
32:24
Speaker 1: see Peyton last week. I hadn't seen him in a while,
32:26
Speaker 1: so he's good to see. What's a chat about John?
32:30
Speaker 1: I can't think you know with secrets. You guys are boys,
32:33
Speaker 1: you go way back. We know that Tom Coughlins didn't
32:36
Speaker 1: invite him in the building though to speak to the team,
32:38
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it was pretty cool to be in
32:40
Speaker 1: that meeting room and hear what he had to say.
32:41
Speaker 1: I want to make sense. I mean, the guy sixteen
32:44
Speaker 1: seventeen years in the NFL. Uh, it's a chance for
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Speaker 1: Tom to have somebody come in it. Maybe, Uh, somebody
32:53
Speaker 1: who wasn't a Tom stature, wouldn't have access to so
32:57
Speaker 1: the more you know. All right, let's go to Jalen
32:59
Speaker 1: Ramsey's in Instagram story. No surprise here, happy that unique
33:02
Speaker 1: and Gockway is back but is still putting on his
33:04
Speaker 1: Instagram story. It's still time to pay the guy. No
33:08
Speaker 1: surprise there that Jalen is still lobbying for there's want
33:10
Speaker 1: other players to get paid. There's nothing wrong with that
33:14
Speaker 1: because he's expected to paid. All right, and let's drap
33:17
Speaker 1: it up Doug Morone and can for the Hall of
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33:24
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33:26
Speaker 1: made it back in Jacksonville, a short little trip, but
33:28
Speaker 1: I'm sure it meant a lot to him. I want
33:30
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33:33
Speaker 1: Sunday about it. And as most people do when they
33:37
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33:41
Speaker 1: with somebody they know, they come away absolutely wowed by
33:44
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33:47
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33:52
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33:54
Speaker 1: see a lot of the players who he had worked
33:57
Speaker 1: with around Kevin and uh. Doug's not usually add emotional
34:00
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34:03
Speaker 1: coming down from that high. It was pretty cool. Maybe
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