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Furness Show 8-11: Dave Sims, Joe Sheehan, John Lund · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, mister Hurst, thank you. A couple of days
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: or a day off, Yeah, rejuveniated, ready to.
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  Speaker 2: Go, ready to go. Yeah, it took a little weekend
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  Speaker 2: plus a day. I went up to my beach house
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: and come in on that very nice. You missed a
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: hell of am Ali walk yesterday, I'm sure I did.
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  Speaker 2: I still went back and listened to the podcast. I
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure I got those guys. Yeah, it
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: was six of it.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm going to get into, I'm going to get
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  Speaker 1: into the Wilson thing in a second, because I was.
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  Speaker 1: I read the story that Devish wrote today in the
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  Speaker 1: Times and how they're not going to fire him, which
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  Speaker 1: is fine. Yeah, I get that, Yeah, we get that.
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  Speaker 1: The reason one of the reasons that he wrote. I
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: just about split up my coffee this morning. It was
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  Speaker 1: just it's the exact reason you should fire him, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you and I and I haven't said
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  Speaker 1: yet fire. I don't know. I'm just so torn on it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think firing Dan Wilson necessarily flips the switch,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe it would. And I think if you're serious
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  Speaker 1: about winning, you try to, you know, leave no stone unturned,
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  Speaker 1: even if it hurts feelings along the way. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we discussed it yesterday just you know, the weekend that
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  Speaker 1: was the fiftieth anniversary, the Cool celebration on Saturday. You know,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was the fact that, you know, most people
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  Speaker 1: cheered a Rod In fact, I think as many people
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  Speaker 1: bowed Dan as they booed a Rod probably, which which
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  Speaker 1: really kind of went kind of it kind of went
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  Speaker 1: on unnoticed in a sense. I agree that that. Oh yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: like Aybrody, you know it was a smattering of boose. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there was more boost for Dan, I think way more.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting too that in a second. We'll probably get
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  Speaker 1: into that in the second and after we have Dave.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Sim's going to join us here in about ten
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  Speaker 1: minutes time, fifteen minutes time, so we'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: here in a little bit. I just wanted I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to bring this up with you real quick before because
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: you weren't here yesterday, and you're a big baseball guy,
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  Speaker 1: and you do the postcast and a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 1: with it, the hot stove thing with Chuck yep. As
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  Speaker 1: it stands right now, so they start the road trip
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  Speaker 1: today and they're in this midst of this gauntlet of
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  Speaker 1: a schedule run where I think it was six straight
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  Speaker 1: teams that they're facing in series are all playoff teams
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  Speaker 1: and all you know good. In fact, the worst of
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  Speaker 1: them it will be Houston, which is leading their division
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  Speaker 1: by four and a half games, but they get swept
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  Speaker 1: by Tampa. They as you pointed out in the in
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  Speaker 1: the headlines that you put together for US, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the fact that they're four and a
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  Speaker 1: half out of first place in the Al West. If
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  Speaker 1: we want to go down the wildcard road, Texas holds
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  Speaker 1: down that final spot. Minnesota is a game and a half,
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  Speaker 1: as is Detroit behind Texas. Cleveland is two games back,
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore is three, Toronto is three and a half and
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  Speaker 1: a half, four, and then you get to Seattle at four.
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  Speaker 1: I brought this up yesterday. If we include Texas, there's one, two, three, four, five.
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  Speaker 1: I have six teams I head of Seattle. Let's include Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: There are seven teams for one spot, battling for one spot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so on the surface, it appears you could hit the
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  Speaker 1: switch and and you could be in the playoffs, like
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  Speaker 1: you could like have a great week and you're there.
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  Speaker 1: Not necessarily, you gotta hope some other. It's not just
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  Speaker 1: one team you hope scuffles. It's a bunch of teams
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  Speaker 1: along the way. I'm gonna ask you just the kind
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  Speaker 1: of the week we brought this up yesterday, What hope
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  Speaker 1: do you have? Any hope? Strong hope? Is it fading?
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  Speaker 2: You know the phrase that we always use route to
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  Speaker 2: be wrong. Yeah, I'm rooting to be wrong right now. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: like my my head's showing me and then nothing's proving
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  Speaker 2: to me at this point that this team is capable
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  Speaker 2: of going out. I'm past the point of saying, all right,
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  Speaker 2: we just got to get hot for one week, got
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  Speaker 2: to get hot for a week and a half, two nights, whatever, right,
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  Speaker 2: show me that. But that's even on the table at
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  Speaker 2: this point. Win a series like what is? I want
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  Speaker 2: to know their series record in the second half of
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  Speaker 2: the season. It's gotta be just terrible. Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time the Mariners won three
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  Speaker 2: series in a row. Uh, maybe not at all this season.
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  Speaker 2: So talk about going on this big stretch of just
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  Speaker 2: going on an absolute heater. Show me that that's even
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  Speaker 2: like a possibility for this team. First, right, if we're
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  Speaker 2: talking and Chris always says this process versus results. Right,
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  Speaker 2: Usually if you do the right process, the results come
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  Speaker 2: after that, right, It's instead of the inverse. So you
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  Speaker 2: got to start doing the right things first before that
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  Speaker 2: stuff happens. And I haven't seen even that first step.
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  Speaker 2: So again we're on August eleventh here. Yes, you could
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  Speaker 2: say they're still in it, and they just they're what
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  Speaker 2: four and a half out of the AL West. I
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  Speaker 2: still think it's division or bust personally because of how
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  Speaker 2: agree there's just there's too many teams that are in
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  Speaker 2: that spot. I know you technically are less games out
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  Speaker 2: of first, but you have to jump more teams and
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  Speaker 2: you have to have more go your way and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. So for me, I don't think this. Chuck
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it today and he's been as adamant that this
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  Speaker 2: team is still going to do it. There's still the
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  Speaker 2: most talented team in the AL West. Joe Shean said
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. We'll talk to him later today as well.
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  Speaker 2: This is the I've been a little bit more on
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  Speaker 2: the pessimism side for a while now, but I'm starting.
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  Speaker 3: To get really worried that this team's going to miss
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs, like really.
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  Speaker 1: Worried fifteen, twenty one and two in series this year.
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  Speaker 1: There's a series records if you're looking at that. The
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  Speaker 1: last series win obviously was the Minnesota series when they
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  Speaker 1: won two of three. Before that, San Francisco, No, San
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  Speaker 1: Francisco they won two of three. Texas they well, non
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  Speaker 1: Texas they won one. I'm just trying to find, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm going back to trying to find when what you said,
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  Speaker 1: when's the last time they won how many series.
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  Speaker 3: In the series in a row?
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  Speaker 2: Because in their eight game winning streak, that was two
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  Speaker 2: series or like two and a half series or something
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  Speaker 2: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Angels Toronto they won, So that's two series in a row. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Angels in Toronto. That was end of June, early July.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just we're producing. I'm doing this on the air,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's I think it's worthwhile because it's
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  Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic that you just brought up. For them
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  Speaker 1: to win three series in a row, has it happened
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  Speaker 1: this year?
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  Speaker 4: What was there? What was there?
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  Speaker 3: Eight game winning streak late May early June.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it was Athletics Arizona, Yes, Mets, I think
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  Speaker 1: they did win so Athletics they swept Arizona they swept
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  Speaker 1: two three, and then the Mets and they won two
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  Speaker 1: of three they went. So that's three straight series right there.
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  Speaker 1: That was the last time. So yeah, yeah, early years
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  Speaker 1: three straight series.
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  Speaker 2: And even before that, I think they've done it once
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  Speaker 2: this year, which is crazy to think about because that's
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  Speaker 2: not like this in the same feet winning three straight
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  Speaker 2: series in a row, right, That's not like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: they need to go on a fourteen game winning streak, right,
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  Speaker 2: that's not what we're talking about here, right, talking about
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  Speaker 2: playing a.
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  Speaker 3: Good stretch, two three week stretch of good baseball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was just looking back Saint Louis, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: But they lost the previous series to, of all teams,
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  Speaker 1: the Athletics, right, Houston. Yeah, but they lost the previous series. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So it's happened once. Happened once this season, and it
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  Speaker 1: was during the eight game winning streak, which was the
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  Speaker 1: season high as well, exactly. So yeah, what are the
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  Speaker 1: what's the likelihood they're going to have three straight series
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  Speaker 1: wins against the teams that they're playing in the next
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  Speaker 1: month or so? Not not highly likely.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love how this framing of like, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can look at it too if you want to be
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  Speaker 2: a positive fan, like, hey, the good teams that will
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  Speaker 2: bring out the best in them, right, right, and then
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  Speaker 2: or you can look at it as all right, in September,
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  Speaker 2: they play a bunch of terrible teams, so they should
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  Speaker 2: be able to beat up on them, right. But it's again,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I am so past the point of looking at
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  Speaker 2: who they're playing against. This team is talented enough to
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  Speaker 2: win almost any baseball game they play.
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  Speaker 1: Do we feel like Cal's heating up?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good, because I'm glad you said that. I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you say that for this reason, because I
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  Speaker 1: keep hearing people say that. Well, he was four for
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven in the homestand he was four for twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: That's a one forty eight average. It's lower than his
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  Speaker 1: season half, which is hard to do when you're hitting
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  Speaker 1: one sixty one. Yeah, right, I mean that's it's And
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  Speaker 1: I brought this up yesterday, anders like people are all
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  Speaker 1: over cold Emerson right, like, you know, hey, he should
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  Speaker 1: be sent down. He's not helping him. Cold Emerson is
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  Speaker 1: hitting thirty five points higher than Cal Rawley. He's got
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  Speaker 1: four fewer home runs in about half the played appearances.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, go through the list. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: cold Emerson's ripping it up by any means, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to point to this guy until he turns it around.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know what, I'm just doing it. I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: Cal Rawley is killing this baseball team.
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  Speaker 2: If he was anyone else, literally any other name on
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  Speaker 2: this team and didn't hit sixty home runs last year,
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  Speaker 2: will he'd be either bench or sent down at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Julio is about it that would also be allowed
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  Speaker 2: to go through this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Naylor's not going anywhere, but.
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  Speaker 3: He's not literally anyone else.
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  Speaker 1: The you know, Nate brought it up yesterday. Let's also
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  Speaker 1: be honest with ourselves as to what happened last year
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  Speaker 1: for them to get to the postseason. The aforementioned cal
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  Speaker 1: Rawley had to have a historic season for you to
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  Speaker 1: get there, and you also made two editions of the
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  Speaker 1: trade deadline that were key cogs to help you get
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  Speaker 1: there as well, in Naylor and Geno. You don't have
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  Speaker 1: any of those things going for you this year. None
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: of those things going for you. You still have one
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  Speaker 1: thing going for you outside of Roade Brian Wu. Your
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  Speaker 1: pitching staff's been pretty damn good. They give you a
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  Speaker 1: chance to win pretty much every night your starters do.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, right, like, they gave you a chance to win. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say even the other day. This is one kind
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  Speaker 1: of made me just sideways. Like if you want to
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: believe in momentum, good for you. I don't know if
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: it exists. Bases loaded, nobody out, Kevin Arrow up. They
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: get out of that. In the first inning against Tampa
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, take a one nothing lead in the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the first right, you should be going. You canna
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  Speaker 1: score again. You lose four to one. They are a
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  Speaker 1: lifeless team. Yeah, what was what did Chris call them?
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Oh he's going back to his notes. I wrote it
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  Speaker 1: down yesterday. A joyless suck factory. I love that joyless
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  Speaker 1: suck factory.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's good. That's really good.
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  Speaker 1: Really okay, I liked it. It's good night. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's do this. Let's take get some joy. Let's get
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: some joy. Dave Samms, he always puts you in a
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: smiley mood. I need to Simsey joint just coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in sports ready and three point
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  Speaker 1: three kJ RFM on this Tuesday afternoon. The Yankees Mariners
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  Speaker 1: road trips starts tonight in the Big Apple, the Bronx
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  Speaker 1: for the Mariners who are trying to find something to
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: turn things around. And I'm joined right now in the
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: Beacon Plumbing Hotline. I call this guy a friend. He
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: touched his base every now and then and see how
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: things are going in Seattle. And I greatly appreciate that
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: I miss him massively. I know many Mariner fans do
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: as well. Former voice of the Mariner's Voice of the
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Yankees now Dave Simms joins us on the phone. How
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  Speaker 1: are you, my friend?
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  Speaker 7: And I'm doing great man. Good to hear your voice
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  Speaker 7: and look forward to I spend us some time with
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  Speaker 7: you here.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate. All right, Well, let's let's get to I
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  Speaker 1: want to start on a better note for a second,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get I want over the weekend, the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners had their fiftieth anniversary celebration. As you know, they
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  Speaker 1: honor players and and others from the past. You were
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: here for was it seventeen years sixteen, seventeen years eight?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, eighteen seasons? Oh seven to twenty four? Yeah, inclosive,
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  Speaker 7: that's eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Seasons, eighteen seasons, and you you were here for some
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  Speaker 1: great moments, including a perfect game by Felix. I didn't
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: get a chance on Monday to talk about him much.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite, if not my favorite Mariner
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  Speaker 1: of all time. Caught his compete level and everything about it.
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  Speaker 1: You called that perfect game. What was it about Felix?
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  Speaker 1: It just separates him and why he's probably going end
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  Speaker 1: up in Cooperstown someday.
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  Speaker 4: Well, one of the.
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  Speaker 7: Things you just mentioned the Brebeus is his ability to
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  Speaker 7: compete at the highest level against the best players in
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  Speaker 7: the game, and knowing that, you know, during his time,
• 12:37
  Speaker 7: he was not going to get Halatia's run support, so
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  Speaker 7: he knew if he had to protect one or two
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  Speaker 7: or three run leg he had to.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was a parative that he had to
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  Speaker 5: have his best stuff.
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  Speaker 7: He had to be totally focused, concentrated to know what
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  Speaker 7: his game plan is and execute it. And he did
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  Speaker 7: such a good job during his peak years. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 7: And I know, I know Radio set. I think she
• 13:01
  Speaker 7: Andre used to play Sunshine.
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  Speaker 5: And lolly Pops by Leslie Gore every fifth.
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  Speaker 7: Day when when Felix's and it was true because you know,
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  Speaker 7: there were some years there that was the only thing
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  Speaker 7: worth you know, every.
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  Speaker 5: Five days, you knew what you wanted to do.
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  Speaker 7: You're gonna watch at least the beginning, middle, or end,
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  Speaker 7: if not all of of a Felix start. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: he was that influential, and it was a guy that
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  Speaker 7: you know, made a name for himself in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 7: And I remember hearing from guys I know in New York. Hey, Man,
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  Speaker 7: when you're trading this Felix, I said, we'll give us
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  Speaker 7: Robbie Canoll and somebody else. Then it turned out we
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  Speaker 7: wound up getting Robbie Cano.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh, he was. He was great. You would
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  Speaker 1: have loved it. He was in the booth on Friday,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was, and just just Felix all the
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  Speaker 1: way through. Man as cool as the other side of
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: the pillar was Stuart Scott.
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  Speaker 4: Great.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Stuart Scott would say, just as he just oozed it
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  Speaker 1: had this one other thing I want to touch it
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  Speaker 1: on for the weekend because you worked with him for
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: all those years. Rick Riz found out at the ceremony.
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  Speaker 1: It was a surprise that he's going to the Marina
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And I know you've got great respect
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  Speaker 1: for Rizzy. We all love him. Of the greatest human
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  Speaker 1: beings on the planet. What what does Rick Riz mean
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  Speaker 1: to you? And also do you think to this organization?
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, what the hell took him so long? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: good point, that's the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 7: It's like, really, come on now, love Rick, good friends.
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  Speaker 7: We talk a lot.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: When I came, you know, I was in O seven,
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  Speaker 7: it was the new guy from the East Coast. Nobody
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  Speaker 7: knew who I was, you know, being one of the
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: few minorities.
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  Speaker 5: You know, a few black guys call him. Baseball and
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  Speaker 5: Rick and.
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  Speaker 7: Dave and Kevin Kremin and Blowers, all those guys are
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  Speaker 7: great and Rick Rick was probably in the forefront. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: everybody knows about the warmth that he exudes and the
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  Speaker 7: passion he has for baseball, passion for the Mariners, passion
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  Speaker 7: for life.
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  Speaker 5: And uh, he's just he's just a good dude.
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  Speaker 7: And I called him before the fiftieth, before the big celebrations.
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  Speaker 7: I was just watching about an hour ago, which it
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  Speaker 7: was a fabulous.
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  Speaker 5: Presentation, and I said, you know, I said, hey.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I have fun with that. And then I
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: find out he gets in the Hall of Fame. So
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  Speaker 7: I called him the day that was what Saturday, so
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  Speaker 7: was Sunday. I called him, that's awesome, man, I'm happy
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  Speaker 7: for you.
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  Speaker 5: And again, what took him so long, it's well deserved.
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  Speaker 7: And uh, you know, if I cannot try to be
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  Speaker 7: there for all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that would mean a ton to him
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  Speaker 1: to have you there as well. Dave obviously knee House
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  Speaker 1: Camp be here, but Dave Sims joining us now, I
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  Speaker 1: think Kevin you there, and you know, I'm glad he
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: gave a shout out to Kevin Kremen on Saturday too.
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  Speaker 1: That was awesome. Happy, Yeah, go ahead.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah that real quick.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: I told him.
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: I said, that was the right thing to do. And
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: I know you didn't have to you didn't have to
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: think hard about it. And I called Kevin, I said,
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: I was so happy that they gave you a pop.
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: You know during the ceremony, that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Was a couple of guys seeing Rick Griffin get get
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: to honored or at least be out there the longtime trainer,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: one of the good dude. What's taking a good dude?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Good dudes out there? I mean some this organization has
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: had great dudes over the years. This organization also has
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: never won a Pennant Dave. And we had high expectations
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: this season. My goodness, this is the year in the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: American League? Is it not wide open? What's going on?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just I want you to handicap
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the American League for me right now, if nothing else.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: I take it back to spring training four going conclusion,
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: I had the Mariners inked in as division champions.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Didn't even didn't have to think.
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: Twice about it, given that they were eight outs away
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: from the series. They had a lot of guys back
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: with a half here and there, pitching solid, and you know,
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: get a couple of bats, get going, and I thought,
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: you know, they're gonna win this.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: So believe me from Afar from three.
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: Thousand miles away, I'm as shocked as you guys are
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: that it's not happening.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: And man, it's really disappointing.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: And last year it was fun because you know, we
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: made the playoffs here in New York and then wound
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: up getting Toronto. Did everything right and we didn't do
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: a lot of things wrong, but they did everything right.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: But I was hoping it was going to be in
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: Alcs the Yankees in Americas, which would have been just
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: mind blowing for me, and it didn't happen. So I
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: was hoping for it again, you know, for this year.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: And right now I see their schedule. They just they
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: just got swept by the rage, right yep? Was that
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: a sweep yep? And it come to our place. Then
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: they go to Houston, then they go to Milwaukee, then
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: come home for the Cubs, and come home for the Phillies.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: This is not a good time to be playing some
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: bad baseball in a weak division and an American league.
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: Get that it's not up to, you know, its usual strength.
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: It's a bad run for right here, and you know
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: we're going to see what happens.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I want to get to your team in a second.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you something. You've been around this
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: game for a long time. One of the things I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: always appreciated when listened to you on the calls here
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: TV or radio was you had a great appreciation for
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the history of the game. I set that up with this.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: In the history of the game, we haven't ever really
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: seen many drop offs like we have with cal Rawley
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: this year. You're talking to guys in baseball. If you
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: knew the answer, Davey, you would probably you know, pass
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: it along and help him out maybe, but no doubt
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: how surprising is his drop off and how historical is
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it as well?
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: It's checked both boxes. Man.
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: I got guys coming up to me, you know, and
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: when we're traveling on the country and yo, my man,
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: and then they.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Hold her hands up, what's up with your boy back
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: in Seattle? To catch it, big dumper?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: What is up?
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: I get that all the time. I got one guy,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: and you know, I got multiple guys. Got him in
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: fantasy like he's freaking killing me, dude, what it would
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: come on, man.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Help me out here.
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: They're freaking killing me.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: So I don't know what to tell you. Man, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: didn't expect this.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: I know that what he had he miss what four
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: or five weeks with the oblique you know, the WBC.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Isn't the curse of the WBC.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: Again or the phrase me famous by the guy I
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: succeeded here?
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: John de late John Sterling. That's baseball, Susan.
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, that kind of stuff happens, man, but this
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: is this is on maybe the largest scale I've ever seen.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: When you're talking about a guy hit sixty plus home
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: runs and comes back and he's hitting the last I
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: look at you said, like a buck sixty three. I mean,
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: that's you know, from a just from a human being standpoint,
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: it's painful to even talk about, let alone who it
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: doesn't matter.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Who you're rooting for. It's like you wouldn't push that
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: on anybody.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: One of the things, Dave, we've been talking about here,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it just seems like there's the clubhouse, the the aura
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: around the team. It's just it looks like some guys
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that are, you know, almost waiting for it to end,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: they can't figure it out that well, how and how
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: important is that in baseball? Like it's such an individual
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: sport you're trying to succeed. But it just feels that's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you know Aaron Boone always talks about
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: whether you're up or whether we're up or down. Yanks
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: are head their ups and down. And you think we
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: were one hundred games under.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Five hundred, we got the six best record in baseball.
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: But it's the one hundred and sixty two and and
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: it's a grind and.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: You got it. You just got to maintain.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: You can't get Seriously, it's a cliche, but I know
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: from when I hear friends calling me and they're in
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: guy's life young, you know Yankee fans.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Tomorrow, I get guys around the country calling.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Me, what is going on?
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Killing me? And you just got to maintain.
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: You got to you just can't get too high again,
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: can't get too low. And then you got to pick
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: each other up. And it's really important. And the fact,
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: you know, team chemistry.
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: I know some people pooh pull it, but you need
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: to have strong leadership and you know somebody's not somebody's
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: not if you will efforting, uh, you need to grab
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: somebody by the throat, by the throat.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: We were in Philly a couple of weeks ago Don
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Larry Bowl.
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: You know baseball man, if there ever was one, A
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: lot of respect for Larry has been around for.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: Every for years. He has done everything.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: And he said, hey, one time I didn't get a
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: bunt down to move a guy over with you know
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: nobody out running second.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: I didn't get the bunt down or hit to the
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: right side to move him over.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: So I come back to the Doug apt and Steve
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: Carlton Red need a riot act right in front of everybody,
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: says you need so you need dudes, You need some
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: kind of strengthen character guy, somebody who has to play on,
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: like a John Wayne type, and if necessary, you got to.
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: You gotta go off from people. And whether it be
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: a nice, quiet, subtle go off, and Aaron Judge generally
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: does it with a you know, with a soft voice
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: but a firm determination when he's you know, communicating with you, like.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Hey, let's pick this up, let's go, come on, we
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: got we're better than this, let's go and that you
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: need that. And I tell you what I know.
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: Obviously, I'm not to marry the book that I'm bold
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: in the clubhouse. I have no idea what's going on there,
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: but it'd be nice. It sounds like from what you're
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: based on your question, it sounds like they could use
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: somebody like that, like, hey, boys, pick it up, let's
• 21:39
  Speaker 7: go come up and say that more than once too.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, and you know, people kind of assume
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it would be cal he's struggling, so maybe he doesn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable with that. I don't know if that, I
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's in his personality or not. I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: think it might be, but you know, he's struggling.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: So I don't agree I'm talking about I think you
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: and I are on the same page.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, wonderful guy. That's not his nature.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: He's you know, he's sneaky, funny, he's very smart, but
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: he's not a guy that's you know, like I don't.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: I don't remember seeing him as a big follow me,
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: following me boys kind of guy.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: No, I think miss he missed Gino. They missed Gino. Honestly,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: they missed Gino. It's just it's they missed Gino. And
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of people here questioning
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the manager and everything else. But the bottom line is
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: your here's the thing, David. Your team's a great example
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of this. Your best players have to be your best players,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and then if someone's out, then somebody else has to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: pick him up. Aaron Judges only played if I would
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: have told people, hey, Aaron Judges, we're gonna get to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: mid October. Aaron Judge will played less than sixty games
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he'll he'll have seventeen home runs. That's it. Well, people, well,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yankees must be in big trouble. No, they're fourteen games
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: above five hundred. Ben Rice has been fantastic. I mean,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: but that's but this's is some of the parts. So
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: so who is it Ben Rice? And who has picked
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: this team up?
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's it's it's a little bit of everything.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, you got Ben Rice is a quiet kid too,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: but boy, he plays with unbelievable determination and work.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Eth me.
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: Uh, Paul Goldsman, I would say, is the guy it's
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: see it really is the E. F. Hutton commercial come
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: to life. If he's in the line, if he's on
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: the field that day and a picture maybe having a
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: hard time, he's usually usually no more than the second
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: guy to the mound. To give the guy a moment,
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: pack him, pick him up, give him, you know, a
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: little you know key phrase like you know, Caddy, come up,
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: put a good put a swing on it, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: wonder these kind of deals and Goldie. Goldie has been invaluable. Uh,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: I'm so glad he came back. He's probably going to
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: go to the Hall of Fame.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: He started out the season and they then he wrote
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: some pine and then there was with the injury started
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: to mount up.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: He was in pretty much every day and was just thriving.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Matter of fact, there was a time before Judge went
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: down they.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: Were a great one two punch and then Rice added
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: on and then you know we're scoring runs like crazy.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: So now we was stanton.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: We lose Judge, but Goldie and he as a pinch hitter.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: They use me against left handers because he can hit
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: left handers. But I would say, he's he's he's the
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: he's the voice for sure.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: How's what's thereon Judge's status? What's uh? What's the prognosis
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: for him?
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: They're not telling us a heck of a lot.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: The good news last week was that he's been able
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: to start getting in his running in terms of upper
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: body and baseball activities. That's still to come. We got
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: something like forty four games left. I'm thinking, my basically,
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: this is just me my best case scenario. He comes
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: back for the last twenty five thirty and whatever he
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: whatever he can add. I don't expect him to be
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: prime Aaron Judge, but just his presence in the lineup,
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: and you know he can take you larger pretty much
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: in any time.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: And we get it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: You know, with Bellinger coming back, he was just starting
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: to rap up and start hitting again. He should be
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: back in the next yeah, I want to say next
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: ten days or so. So that's going to be a
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: big boost. And we brought this kid up, the Lombard kid,
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: who is Wow, he's off a ridiculous start. I mean,
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: he looks like he's played shortstop since he was two.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, obviously he grew up in the
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: baseball family, baseball dynamics, you're there. He's got the arm, he's.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Got the footwork, he's a good soccer player.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Schultzel pop going the opposite field and the second home
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: run hit a home run, and he had he turned
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: a double play, going into the hole, reaching across his
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: body and throwing the seed to jazzism to get the
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: double play started. I've never been so jacked at my
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: life watching a double plass six four to three double play,
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: because you know, Anthony Bolpi's scuffled, is the plate way
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: of saying. In the kind of year he's had and
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: they've sent him back, and Kabbyerra has had his had
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: a lot of good moments that Cabby's been really good
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: for us. But having Lombard here, I mean, I think
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: he can ink him in. For everything being equal, he's
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: gonna be here for ten to fifteen years.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Don't say Jeter.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: Don't point anybody to say time with Jeter. You don't
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: got a lot of time for that. But he he
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: looks like he's got ten fifteen years written all over.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Daveson for a couple of moments, joining his voice, the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yankees form voice of the Mariners, Joining us here on
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the Beacon Public Hotline, he infinness with you, all right,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: just as we look overall, tell me about the boss.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: This is gonna pay you as a New York guy.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Tell me about the Boston Red Sox plus eighty four
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: run differential. They have been on a heater for a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: couple of months now. What is going on is managerial change?
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: Is that it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: They did? They're good players.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: They got some good players and they just came to life.
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: I think, just like you know, like in Philly Manning,
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: he's not a hollering screen guy. They got good players
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: and things came around, and the same thing up there, man,
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: and it all happened at once. Everybody at the same
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: time and give the Yankees credit or discredit. They swept
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: our butts up there in four games late June, and
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: that's what got them going.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: And they you know we were leaving.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: We're still leaving too many guys on base We still
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: had number one. We're number one in e ra A
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: in baseball, number two in home runs. But you know,
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: the three results, that's what we see with the major
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: and we just steal basis and the socks, you name it.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: They're doing it in this stretch there.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: And Chapman's been phenomenal coming out of the book that
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: closing things now and the totally get a big at
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: most of the kid that left handed they got, he
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: got now he's right hand. Anyway, he's been phenomenal. I mean,
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: you name you name one of their pictures and they've
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: been pretty and they've been aces. And right now our
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: three guys are we got five pictures, five starters. Ryan
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Weathers and Will Warren are four and five are one,
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: two and three not necessarily in disorder, you know, are
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: freed Cole and Schlittler and Rod Dondrey to come back,
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: and you know he'll be piggybacking our pitching right now.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Sensational.
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: It's a crime dad only scoring one, two and three
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: runs a game. And I said, well, I've seen this
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: movie before. So that's where the Yankees are right now,
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: getting ready for the series.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: With the Marinis.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: What would you tell Marender fans and maybe even anybody
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: in the American League? That's kind of there's this muddled
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: miss mushy middle Dave with the the wildcard. I mean,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: there's basically six teams battling for one wildcard spot. You've
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: been doing this for a while. Forty three games left
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to go. Mariners are three and a half out of
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the wildcard. There are four out of the of the division.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: But the three and a half wildcards sounds not too bad,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but there's four teams in between them. Would what would
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you tell marinor fans are there is there still reason
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: to have hope?
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: I'm always you know, I drive my wife crazy with this,
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: but I'm always a half glass half as.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: You are, and I think you the season.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: The season is so whacked in the American League, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: we saw Boston get hot, and obviously they're not going
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: to play what it was at eight hundred and eight
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: fifty ball to play that ain't going to continue from
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: now to September twenty seventh, and somebody else may get hot. Hey, obviously,
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: I hope it's us, but I don't think it'll be Toronto.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: That's not their year. But to Troid, I talked to
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: aj Hinch last week after the Scooball training. He said, Hey,
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: we have enough offense to be a pain in the
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: ass coming down to stretch. They have a week September schedule.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: They had a good run last year, faded in September,
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: came back and beat Cleveland in the playoffs, and then
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: you know, played out your way. So I don't know
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: if i'd want to discount that. I don't want to
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: discount too many teams in the division in the Central,
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: which is I think the Weeks said the bunch, the
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: Minnesota's playing a little bit better and Buxton's out. You
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: know you got us in the in the East. At
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: Tampa Bay, they do a ton right man. TA can
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: play small ball.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Three big guys can hit it out of the yard
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: to pitch like crazy. The relief courp is very good.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: I think we they have a winning record against us
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: and we still have them for four games of our
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: place at the last. I believe that is the Yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: the last four games of the season. We played Boston
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: four games the last weekend in September, so we had
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: some huge, huge games coming up.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Man, it's uh, it's going to be interesting.
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: So I wouldn't. I don't discount anybody. You know, maybe
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: September one I can start, you know, I can, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: nine ten years get out of here. You know, somebody
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: will tap out. But I don't put anything past any
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: of these things.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: Cleveland can get hot. I'm looking at Cleveland, you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: I'm not worried about Kansas City. Those guys.
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: So that's what we're looking at. Hat a white Sox
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: not counting them out. So you know, the American leagues
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: up for grabs. So and maybe you know, at some point,
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: maybe the hitting starts to emerge with the Mariners and
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: make it make them one.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: There's still time. Hey hey again.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: And as you heard me say many times, I grew
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: up in Philly nineteen sixty four, up six and a
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: half with twelve to play, and so he didn't win
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: the Pennant.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I love your glass half full, by the way, I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: always have, always appreciate it. We need that out here.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: In Seattle, where it's been fifty years without a World
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Series appearance.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: And we need that.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: We need that, my friend, maybe just take it easy,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: have your guys take it easy on our base, our
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: little baseball team out there this week.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't guarantee, no.
• 30:55
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Hey, two things. One, great to hear your voice. Ippreciate
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: carming out some time. Number Two, it's been a couple
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of years, but I told you this at the time. Congratulations.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Such a cool deal for you to be doing those
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: games back there for that franchise. I know it's awesome
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: for you. I know it's a dream in so many ways,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and I'm happy for you, my friends. So thanks for
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: popping on.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: To Yeah, thanks man, I appreciate it all the best there,
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: all the boys there at the station. And hey, I
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: love you Seattle, love the Pacific Northwest. I got my
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: son out there too, so I love it even.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: More even better. That's the great Dave Simms. Maybe we'll
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: talk in October. Wouldn't that be nice for a change
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: this in October baseball, you have my number. Thanks, that's
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Dave Sims. We'll take a break, come back with more.
• 31:39
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• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Pick. Thanks Dave sim Popping on. Get back to some
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Mariners here in the next segment, I just real quick,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: So Seahawks announced that fullback Robbie Oots has been placed
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: on season ending injury reserve. You're on the eleventh of August,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: so not a good sign at all for Robbie Oots.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Hopefully it's something that's not career ending. I don't Mike
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: McDonald's did not speak today or is not speaking today.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: He did yesterday. I didn't give an update on Oots
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: the situation, but they put him on season ending IR,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: so he's done for the year. That means Britty Russell
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: is now you're starting fullback. Brock Lampy is your backup
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and normally not a position we would spend a lot
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of time talking about, except for that's a position that
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: in this particular offense they do want to use and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: they do want to utilize that now they can rotate
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: some tight ends back there. Nick caller up can play
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: back there. Salbert can play back there. So there's there's opportunities.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Venette can play if he's on the team, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: but and Russell's a converted tight end as well. But
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: this is is it's a bummer because I know that
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: they were counting on him this season, not just you know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: just because they this is this is what they want
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to do. And watching him early in camp before there's contact,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: he looked great. Yeah, but it sounds like it's we're guessing.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: We don't know. Everyone's kind of guessing right now that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: it's a neck injury because it's isn't that what kept
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: him out of the Super Bowl last year, NFC championship
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: game in the Super Bowl, So not not ideal, ladies
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and gentlemen, not ideal. And even this weekend, I mean,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking through here. Listen, this this Saturday might
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: be the day that's the poster child for guys like
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Softy who hate the preseason. Uh, we'll see what I mean.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: He hasn't said officially, he being Mike McDonald what he's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: gonna do. But yesterday afterwards we're listening to him. He's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: talking and he's like, yeah, you know, I'm not sure,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: we're trying to forget what we're gona do with the
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback position, then blah blah blah. And I mean, if
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think Donald's gonna play, I would I would
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: be surprised if because if he plays in your starting
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: offensive lines playing, and I don't think you want to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: do that. More importantly, your your running back situation. Gennardian
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Price is not gonna play. I can confidently say he's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: not practicing, he's not playing, and even if he was
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to come back today or tomorrow or whenever, you're not
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: going to put him out there. If whatever's going on,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: even however minor it might be. Halani's not gonna play
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: because you can ill afford to lose both of those guys. JAKARTI,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you're right, is still banged up, hasn't been practicing. He's
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: your number four. Emmanuel Wilson Is he's your three. I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: mean right now it's Price, Halani Wilson Wright would be
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: your one, two, three four. That leaves you with Vellus
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Jones junior converted wide receiver at times, Justin Jones and TJ. Harden,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: who rookies that were just signed recently. Oh you heard
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: of any of those people only because I'm out there, right,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I know, and and nothing with any of those guys
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like last year, Jacardi right even this year, Like when
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you watch Practicop, you're like, whoa, Yeah, that dude's got
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: some little got little juice there.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No, the easy answer is no. And I can't imagine
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you want to put a JSN out there. I can't
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: imagine you want to put a Cooper Cup out there.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Tory hart Horton no chance coming off an injury, So yeah,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: it's it's back and Dallas has already said they're not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: playing their starter, so yeah, it's it's backups versus backups.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: So fun.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: If you paid big money for that, good for you.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I still I listen all that out there. I still
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like it. I still would rather watch a preseason game
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: than watch nothing at all.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Football is better than no football.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's some there are some. I mean, the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: depth receivers are battling for one spot. They're kind of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like the they're like the AL wild card is like
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: six guys battling for one spot. So that'll be kind
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: of fun. Backup offensive line, which you don't most people
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: don't care about. But there's some good competition there, but
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the backup wide receivers, some depth guys, the secondary guys,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: or some battles there with the cornerback position. I mean,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that's why they're going down to the Terry and Arnold route,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: because they feel like they need to get somebody. If
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: they felt even though McDonald said yesterday, I feel great
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: about my guys, if you really felt that good about
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: him despite the talent, and the talent's unmistakable with Arnold,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you're not going down that road. You obviously feel like
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you get up great. So that's what they're trying to do.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: If they feel like this guy can get off and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: whatever is going on is not his fault, or he's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: innocent and blah blah blah those things. So yeah, there's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a lot happening there this weekend. All right, when we
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: come back, why won't the Mariners fire Dan Wilson? Well,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: one reason given today makes absolutely zero sense. We'll talk
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: about that next.
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• 37:20
  Speaker 1: full back Robbie Oots out for the season. Placed on
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: season ending injured reserve today by the Hawks here on
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: August eleventh. Since it's in training camp before the season starts,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: not at the final cut down, he will not be
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: able to return this year. Big below for the team.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: They're left with Brady Russell as there starting running a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: full back back up now if they keep him. Brock
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Lampy he played for Thomas Hammock who was the running
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: backs coach. You remember him from Hard Knocks. I'll play
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: for him at Northern Live bombs for him. Yes, did
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Fane really get upset by that? I heard that yesterday? Yeah?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Really not.
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• 38:04
  Speaker 1: NFL Vikings have named Kyler Murray they're starting quarterback over J. J. McCarthy.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: The funny thing is he's getting paid is Kyler Murray
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: thirty million dollars by Arizona getting paid a million by
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the He's getting paid a million by like one point
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: five I guess by Minnesota.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Better than minimum.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, firings have happened today, Los Angeles
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Angels a fire have fired hitting pitching coach Mike Maddock,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: assistant pitching coach Darryl Scott, and bullpen coach Dom Cheaty.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Basically the whole pitching staff.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, weird. Let's get to that next.
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  Speaker 1: Joe sheen Old on us at one twenty today, John
• 39:01
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• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a to Dodge text line four nine four to five one, Thoughts, comments, questions,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: concerns four nine four or five one fire away helped
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: me out. Do you want Wilson fired?
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that term want like you never want someone
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to get fired. I okay, But do you think he
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: should be He should be fired? Okay, yes, or he
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: should resign. Chris Crawford has mentioned this before.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you know, Chris has said it best
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: from the start, from our Molly Wap Monday when half
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: of our Molly whoppers and he'll actually fill in for
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: me next Monday when I'm off for a day. You know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: he's been very and I think this is an important
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: thing here because he and he wasn't alone, but he
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: has been one of the more vocal people about this
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: from the start. He said they shouldn't have hired him, right,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: And I think that was the problem he ran into,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: is they hired him, you know, when they hired him
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: full time, no interroim, tag, nothing, You're just you're the guy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So when that happened, I mean Chris, and he's been
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: outamant about that in stell saying, yeah, they shouldn't have
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: hired him and they shouldn't retain him. And a lot
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: of people are saying that. So listen, the noise surrounding
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson and the Mariners is not going away anytime soon.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: There's there's two things I kind of want to hit on.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: One is, and this is maybe more of a topic
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: for tomorrow or the next day. If they were to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: turn it around, get to the postseason, have a run
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: similar to last season, are we really even able to
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: enjoy that because this has been such an unenjoyable year.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: It's just been weird.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: That's the question I was going to bring up to you,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: is like, if they for either by other teams being bad,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: like really bad, yeah, or figure out a way to
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: go on a run and they get in at five hundred,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: would you feel good about this season just because they
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: made the playoffs.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just a big fan of getting in
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter what sport you are, I just am.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I think you play a regular season to get to
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: the postseason. That's why you play it. And I've always
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: felt that way. I remember when people were screaming from
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the mountaintops all over the place, including on this radio station.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Mans is Seahawks need to rebuild, take a step back,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and it makes no sense. Why are they just trying
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to get to the postseason. I don't know, because wild
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: card teams have won super Bowls in the NFL, same thing.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, Vegas was awful last season in the regular
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: season by most standards. They got to the stand Cup Final.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: You want to get in. But this is such a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: unique circumstance. We'll kind of table that for tomorrow because
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I'm banking on road Brian will getting a win tonight.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Oh God, are you really going to keep just being
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: like it has to end? Eventually?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: It has to It has to lost at Yankee Stadium.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I was just curious. Davish wrote
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: this piece today in the Times. I'm just I'm trying
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to wrap my arms around it. You know, Ryan and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Daniel Kramer from MLB dot com and Adam Jude to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a certain extent, Booth. Those guys are around in the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: clubhouse and they have a better handle on things in
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: any of us. It's frankly, what used to really piss
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: me off when I was with the Seahawks every week
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and on the road and in locker rooms, and I'd
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: have people tell me things and they'd be like, oh,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: this is I said, you have no idea, man, You're
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: not there. You have no idea, you know. I referenced
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: off in the last last game in Arizona in twenty
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: twenty three, the dysfunction going on. I remember people were
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: saying they were just smoking cigars to celebrate Julian loves No. Well,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that's what he told everybody after the fact. That had
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. There's that's not what was
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: being told to us in the locker room anyway, And
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that was just the me that And there's another couple
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of years in there, like this twenty seventeen season I
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: think was massively dysfunctional, and there's this you know, I like,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: you have a better feel, and so I try, Ryan
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and those guys have a good feel. But this thing
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: he wrote today, this just drives me nuts because I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: think this is the problem firing Wilson. I'm quoting from
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: his story. Firing Wilson, particularly mid season might be popular
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: with fans, but it would be something more than an
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation for everyone else involved. He's beloved within the organization,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: including the ownership group and the players. He has a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: close bond with several players, including specifically Raleigh, building relations
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: with them as long as they climb the minor league
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: ranks right or wrong. He's given them his trust to
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: hold themselves to standard set. So you're not going to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: fire him because he's got strong relationships with players who
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: by and large are all underperforming this year. Yes, you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: hired him because of those relationships and to get these
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: guys going because they didn't like the heavy hand apparently
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of Scott's service makes sense for that for me? Well,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: makes sense of that for me, please, because that's exactly
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: why you do fire him, because you need to be
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a little more uncomfortable, because right now you're too damn comfortable.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: You're way too comfortable if you're a lot of these
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: core guys that are just kind of going through the motions. Yeah,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you're just way too comfortable.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't make sense of that, And I'm with you.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I think that would be a reason to move on
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: from him, if anything else, because you need something to
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: change right right. You know, I mentioned this to you before, Like,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think the people that are advocating for Dan
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Wilson to be fired think that all of the blame
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: for this season goes on him. How I don't think
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: that people think the majority of the blame of this
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: season goes on his shoulders and what's something that he
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: has specifically done. However, you look at the situations like Philly,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Boston and to some extent the New York Mets as well,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: they are their objective, they're in their thought process and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: firing those three managers was not Hey, this guy is
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: way over a skis.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: They're the reason why we're losing. They're the reason why
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: we suck.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It's we have an extremely talented roster and we need
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: to win this year, and we need to do anything
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: to make that happen, anything to send a message to them,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: anything to get a new voice in there so that
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: we're not pissing away this entire season. And that's where
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I think the Mariners need to lie, because they have
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: told us multiple times that this season twenty twenty six,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: they are trying to go win the World Series, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: especially given what's on the horizon with a possible lockout
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: next year, I think that should be even more the case.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: As things have moved along and has and things are
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: not turning around, and they're not looking like they're turning
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: around anytime soon.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: And maybe part of the issue is who do you
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: replace him with?
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Is it an interrom You put an interrom tag on
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a manny acta. I don't think that helps you at
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: all because it's just more of the same, Right, I mean,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: this guy's been here through two managers, so that doesn't
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: help you, and he lost a clubhouse in Washington.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: It's true.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So you know that we pump up the tires of
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: guys like Perry Hill, who's maybe he's a good coach.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: His defensive his team's defensively sucks this year. It's horrible.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: So does he get if we're going to give him credit,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: does he get blame?
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: And that's the other part.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Everyone was giving Dan Wilson credit last year with the
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: season that they had because he you know, he's a
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: guy that I think is a really good manager when
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: things are going well. Yeah, and you can be a
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: front runner, but anytime you need some sort of a change,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: a kick in the butt, like a different approach, he
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't tend to get that out of his players very much.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: I just I just find it amazing that the reason
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you keep him is because the relationships well, And that's
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: just like it's that's the exact reason you get rid
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: of him right now, because it's not working.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: And they need to be sent a message and you
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: know what, be the message delivered.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. And let's be honest, you guys as
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: an organ as players have failed Dan Wilson. And that's
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the other part. You have failed Dan Wilson. Dan Wilson
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: hasn't taken swings. His approach at the plate isn't no no, no, no, no,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: you guys are You have failed him, and you failed
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: him miserably. But I like, I'm want to go back
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to what you You know, we talked about like those
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: who were giving him praise last season, Well, how many
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: people were really giving him praise? I don't know, maybe
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: they were, Maybe I missed it. I think I'll go back.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I know this on our Monday show. Big thanks to
• 47:50
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• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you, Andrews if you went back to the archives.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: There were a number of times that we discussed how
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: they're winning in spite of it, in spite of Dan Wilson.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just Bizarroo in the in Game seven,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: there were other that happened all the time. Yeah, So
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: like you can't have it always, you just can't.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's I'm going to literally quote my tweet
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: that I put out talking about this exact same scenario,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: because there's two reasons of thought with Dan Wilson. If
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: do you think he was a big reason for last
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: year's success, he is also a big reason for this
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: year's failure. If you or if you think the Mariners
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: did what they did in spite of Dan last year
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: and was bailed out by his players and they're not
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: doing that this year, then he's unable to get more
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: out of his.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Players in these situations.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Right, So either one of those can be true. But
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you can't say that he was a big reason for
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: last year's success and then now it's his players that
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: are failing him.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: It's odd because you would think that, you know, here's
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: an organization that it does kind of feel like they
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: really care about, you know, like we're more concerned with
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the history, which I just laughable, just absolutely laughable, then
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: they are about present day winning.
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: I e.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Like, we're not going to fire a legend. You know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: we had to fall out with Jay. We did whatever
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: we can to bring j back, so we put him
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: on the broadcast to let him be j and you know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: he can create his own schedule, so he's so he's
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: part of things for the fiftieth anniversary.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Speculation of leaving Jeff Nelson off the.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: List, that Jeff Nelson because they haven't ever they haven't
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: ever mended that fence with Jeff. Kyle Seeger is a
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: funny one because he's one of your top fifty players
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: of all time without a doubt, so Nelly should have
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: been as well. But Kyle was Listen. I know he's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: coaching his kid.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: I get that he could have easily been there if
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: he wanted to.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: He didn't want to be here. He had a falling out,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: So you don't want to have a falling out. Dan.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: The funny thing is, all of all those personalities we
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: just discussed, the one guy that probably would have the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: ability to forgive forget and is probably the glassiest of
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: them all is Dan Wilson.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing is it's ruining his legacy. Now,
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: what's going on now.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that's bad. That's a great point. Dan Wilson,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the great Mariner in the sense of a Hall of
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Famer and whatever, helping in the minor league system, doing
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: all those things, all of a sudden, you know, probably
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: had a hell of a nice good life going on.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It's thrust into this situation of managing day to day
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: under the microscope and it's not like and he was
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: given a team it's good, yes, that is now woefully underachieved.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah I I.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Oh god.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: They fired Service because he was too heavy handed. They're
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: going to keep Dan because he's got great relationships with
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: a bunch of players that are frankly failing him right now, Yes,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: failing him and failing him miserably and.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Honestly, if nothing else, they need to be shown, Hey,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: your bad play has reprimands, right, Yeah, you just got
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: a manager fired. You could talk literally, if they were
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: to fire Dan Wilson, you could go to cal Rawle
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: and just be like, was.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Cora high we thought of in Boston by players extremely high?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And they they said, screw you, we want to win.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Check's notes sixty four and fifty four ten above five
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: World Series of Boston. By the way, a plus eighty
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: three run differential. Do you know how it wasn't that
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: long ago the Mariners were plus thirty one. They're minus
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: nineteen now. The crazy thing is they have the best
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: run differential in the American League West and they're in
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: third place.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: At minus nineteen.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: At minus nineteen, Texas is minus thirty and Houston is
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: minus twenty five. Oh god, they have the best run
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: differential in the American League West and their third Joshian
• 51:46
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• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Look what's up there? Yesterday Part five Seattle Mariners listed
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: along with their opponent for the next three days, The
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: New York Yankees. Hello, Joe, how are you?
• 52:37
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 52:37
  Speaker 9: You know better than Mariners fans these days?
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Well, we just had our fiftieth anniversary celebration. There was
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: lots to celebrate, and then they got swept by the
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Race. So that's If that's not the most
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Mariner weekend you could ever have, I don't know what is.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: It's a lot of Lenny Milbourne and Floyd Banister.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: And oh god, Floyd Banishers. There's a pull from the past. Yeah,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Mike Parrott, he came out as well, So yeah, there's
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Mike's cooler didn't get honored. I some of the most
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: were upset about that, and they left Jeff Nelson off,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: although he leads the his resume was more than good
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: enough to be in the top fifty. But he made
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: him mat a few years ago, back in twenty in
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three, so the pettiness still exists, apparently,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: So he was off.
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: Probably more remembered as a Yankee too.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a few guys like that, a rod
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: in some ways, right, probably remember for other places besides here,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of Robinson Cano, Adrian was
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Beltra on the list, yes, sir, Yeah, Beltray was yeah.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: Riddy Johnson, I mean he had that great breakout with
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: the Mariners, but you know he won four straight Sion
• 53:34
  Speaker 9: Awards with the Diabacks.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was That's the one that's always
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: going to hurt just because he was I mean, Langston
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: was really good, but Randy was like the first pitching
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: superstar here and then he left and then had even
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: better success elsewhere and Hall of Fame success elsewhere. So
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: that might be just the story of the organization right there,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: showing a nutshell. When's cal gonna go hit seventy home
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: runs for somebody else? When's Julio get I mean, God,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: hopefully those day over and so forth. Yankees in town.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: You can go see our friends, the Marriers, but might
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: as well make your way out tonight, buddy, let's go.
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: Not tonight, maybe Thursday.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Oh there's that game.
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: I don't look. It's actually been a big topic here
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: in the city of last year or so. But Yankee
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: Stadium is a hard place to watch a game. The
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: volume is it is absolutely allowed of in any other
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: park I've been to, and the persistence of it is
• 54:26
  Speaker 9: greater than any other park I've been to, save maybe
• 54:28
  Speaker 9: a city. The two New York parks are just not
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: great if you want to go watch a ball game,
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: and it's it's frustrating, And like I said, Aaron Judge
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: apparently wants it that way, and that's one of the
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: reasons that they do it the way they do. But
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: it is just it is a hard three hours on
• 54:42
  Speaker 9: the years.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Is it canned music or is organ it's mostly canned.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, they have an organist.
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: But what I'm talking about here is the stuff between pitches,
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: between at bats, even between pitches, you'll get like, you know,
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: eight seconds of something, and it's just it is very
• 54:58
  Speaker 9: hard to have a conversation. And part of enjoyment are
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: going to a game for me is sitting with a
• 55:02
  Speaker 9: friend and bsing for two and a half hours. That
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: to me was the experience. And you can't talk to
• 55:07
  Speaker 9: the person next to you for all the extrainingus noise.
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: I'm not talking about fans cheering. Fans cheering cheer great
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: even charge and stuff like that. That's all part of
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: being at a ballgame. But you know, eight seconds of
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: some song that I've ever heard of. And I know
• 55:20
  Speaker 9: I saw an old guy here, but I want you
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: to trust me when I tell you that. If you
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: read the coverage of this issue, it's a lot of
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: twenty somethings saying what the hell's going on here?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: But that is part of the charm of going to
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: a baseball game. It's just kind of sitting there and
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: having a conversation as the game goes on, and when
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: something happens, you stop and you get excited, and then
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I mean the downtime I went on Sunday. I went
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: with my wife and I can't it's been a couple
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: of years since her and I went to a game together,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: but we went Sunday together and we're sitting there and
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: they had the organists there. It was playing a good
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: chunk of the time. Maybe it's a Sunday thing. I
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: don't really know, but and I remember said, I said,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I love the organist, like I just I like the organist,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: you know, And and she's like, yeah, I'm the same way.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: You know, most of the songs, the walk up songs
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of because I'm old, so I don't
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: really care about that kind of stuff. But yeah, I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: can see I can relate to it one hundred percent,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you know, because I give me an Oregon dunt dun,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: you know stuff like that. I like that in hockey
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: games too, to be honest with you, and I think
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the same organists, but I don't need to have canned
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: music blaring or you know that kind of stuff.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Is it worse than LA because I remember when the yeah,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: good question super loud there.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: So it's been a few years I've been to a
• 56:30
  Speaker 9: game at Dodger Stadium. But I would imagine that if
• 56:33
  Speaker 9: you're describing it that way, it is much the same
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: I was. I was in Baltimore last month and didn't
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: seem as bad. I do think this is something, you know,
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: ole game production. They've only taken on some of the
• 56:45
  Speaker 9: cadence of the NBA, particularly with like the between pitch stuff,
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: and I guess I guess they have data that says
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: this is what people like. But it's just it's it's
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: chasing me away from the ballpark because it's just it's
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: not what I want to do for two and a
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: half three hours. I want to say and a hot
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: dog and talk and hang out. And I'm not asking
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: it to be nineteen fifty six, you know, with like
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: an organist and right, right, But can can we roll
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: it back to two thousand and six because this is
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: a fairly the actual volume by which I mean the
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: loudness has gone up incredibly in the last twenty years,
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: and even if you just roll that back to two
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: thousand and six, maybe take out some of the interstitial stuff.
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: You know, between between endings, you're always going to get
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: the hat race and something happening on the field and
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: I had no objection to any of that, but it's
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: literally the between the first pitch of the inning and
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: the last pitch of the inning where I think it
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: just needs to be a lot quieter.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I figured you weren't going tonight because you don't want
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: to go see you.
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: Oh no, I knew this was coming.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Road, Brian Wu. Road, Brian Wo's going today. I'm and
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: what did I just say? Last segment?
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: You said you think that he shoves today because eventually
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: it has has to change.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Joe keeps telling me it's going to change Tonight's tonight.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: It changes against You wrote about the Yankees offense without
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Aaron Judge isn't great. This is the night of changes.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Road Brian wol will talk about next week in glowing terms, Joe.
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: These are two this should be this is these should
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: be three very fast games. The way these teams are
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: hitting right now. You know it's funny. I was on
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: I was on Davison the Vegas Sports Infinition Gambling focused
• 58:22
  Speaker 9: Done network earlier today, and I gave out the Yankees
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: tonight at minus one twin. I don't want to get
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: too deep into gambling stuff, but basically I gave out
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: the Yankees to beat the Maritis tonight, and it was
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: all I could do to not bring up the wo
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: splitz because the woof splitz don't aren't actually a factor
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: in this, but it made me look at the woo splitz.
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: I keep saying the wo splitz.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: It's like a word which I have.
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: Apparently, Well, I'm a misplacement numbers here, hang on second, here, oh,
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: here we go. And here's the big thing I want
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: to talk about. Like, if you look at Brian wool
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: on the road, the strikeout rate is about nineteen percent,
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: which is lower than it normally is seventeen percent. But
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: the stritcutch of walk issues three point six, which is fantastic.
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: The big number here, he's allowed a two fourteen batting
• 59:09
  Speaker 9: average on balls and play at home. Yeah, he's allowed
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: a three point fifty two market road. Now, I can
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: make an argument that that there should be a split
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: there because T Mobile isn't a great park to hit,
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: But one hundred and forty points that's not a skill
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: There's no skill set being reflected here.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: So I get it.
• 59:25
  Speaker 9: We've had some fun with it. I did give out
• 59:27
  Speaker 9: the Yankees to beat the Mariners tonight, but I think this.
• 59:31
  Speaker 9: If you look at Brian Wu going forward from here,
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: there would be no reason to expect in debt anything
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: other than a normal home road split.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if with Wu tonight or any time on
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the road, I wonder if it's got to the point
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: where it's in his head right and it's just it
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: and the game is so finite, like you miss by
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: half an inch or an inch on the plate, and
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden the guy barrels one up, thanks
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: for coming, It's gone. And I wonder in the back
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: of his mind, Joe, the way for it, the human
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: elements coming into play here with him? Because you don't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: think so.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 9: I'm only because I tend to think of these guys
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: as much mentally stronger than most. And I say that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: because they're thirty times twenty six, seven hundred and eighty
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: baseball players in the major leagues. Yes, we're gonna include
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 9: the angels in that for the moment, and like to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: get to be one of those seven hundred and eighty guys,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: you have to be so mentally strong just to get
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: to that point. Yeah, that I think all of the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: guys you might be affected by a weird home road
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 9: split simply get washed out along the way high school, college,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: low miners, high miners, and we're just I think, I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: just think all of the guys in the majors are
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 9: incredibly mentally tough. And yeah, I'm sure there are exceptions,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 9: but I don't think Brian lu who was a perfectly
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 9: good pitcher on the road last year, is going to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 9: go to the mountain. I thinking, oh my god, I'm
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: wearing these are gray uniforms. Oh my god, I can't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: pitch in gray uniforms.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Well, let's hope not. They need to win, they need
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: a series of Josi and Joshian newsletter joining us. Let's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you wrote about the marriage and the third third and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: one of the big hot topics of conversation here, obviously
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: is is Dan Wilson and another story written in the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: paper today here about it. They're not going to get
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: rid of it doesn't sound like this, this is why
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: you don't and all those things. I thought you just
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: said it well though, like you know, it's not on Depoto,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: it's not on Wilson. And I've said this a lot
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: this year. Andrews can vouch at some point it's on
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the players. Like none of those guys can can control
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: the fact that Cal's been awful, Naylor is a singles hitter,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and Hulio has just been okay, Like right, I mean,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: that's the issue.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 9: If you look at the three guys atop this roster,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 9: and even conceided that Naylor was only there for two
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 9: months last year, they combined for sixteen war sixteen Baseball
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 9: reference war last year, and this year it's six six
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  Speaker 9: Even that say, it's three basically, and that's the difference
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  Speaker 9: between running away from the West and basically being where
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 9: they are right now. And even ticket just look at
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: preseason projections. If you add those three guys up, you
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 9: look at Pakoda or Zips or any of the projection system,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 9: they were projected to be maybe twelve to thirteen wins combined.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 9: So you're talking about those three guys being ten more
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 9: worse than you would have expected. And again, that's the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 9: difference between where they are and leading the division. So look,
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  Speaker 9: I don't think Dan Wilson's that good at his job,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 9: and certainly I can't believe Dan Wilson for these three
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: guys falling off the cliff. And we talked about this
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: at the trade deadline. Where how do you improve this roster.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: You're not benching cal Rally, You're not benching Josh Naylor
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  Speaker 9: and all of the other spots on the roster were
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 9: basically filled with the guys who were actually playing well,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: or in case Donovan coming off of injury, or I mean,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: it was an impossible task I think for Jerry Depoto,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: and they just need their best players to play better.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 9: It is very unusual for the core of a raw
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 9: to go south like this. I'm hard for us to come.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: Players have done this, have completely had off years and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: been terrible. But for the three best guys on the roster,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 9: the guys who were supposed to be the anchor that
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 9: you know, it was funny. I looked the other day
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: and they were hitting five six, eight after started the
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 9: year hitting two, three, four, And I was like, just,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's just it's a little shocking to see
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 9: cow Rally in the eight spot after the year he
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 9: had his career he's had, after the year he had
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 9: last year. But Mike Petriello posted his splits because I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 9: had said when he went on the IL in May
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 9: he just needs to reset. He had the longest year
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: of his career in twenty twenty five. Then he came
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 9: to camp early to play in the World Baseball Classic,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: and I figured he was just exhausted. And basically he's
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: hit just as badly before and after the IL trip,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 9: So that wasn't the solution either. But yeah, I just
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: it's hard because we always want to blame somebody, right,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 9: but we don't want to blame our favorites. Nobody wants
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 9: to blame cal Rally. We love cal Rally. It's sixty
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 9: homers last year, he signed a Contract's gonna keep then
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 9: Seattle for forever. Josh Baylor came over and was this
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 9: cuddly guy who's one hundred bases, you know at the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: end of the regular season, and you know, and Julio
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 9: is just in the homegrown store form. You don't want
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: to be mad at these guys. But the reason the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 9: narrative season has gone sideways is those three guys. And
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 9: I'm loving Julio in only because loss. He hasn't had
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 9: a great defensive year. He's gonna end up with maybe
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 9: four war which is, you know, two wins less than
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: he would expect from him. That's not entirely fair because
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: Rally and Naylor have been replacedment level players.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Jo she enjoys Joshi and newsletter anders you got something
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: for him?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when you look at like you said,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: it happens to players individually where they have this fall
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: off a cliff sort of season, But when you have
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: your entire core, as you mentioned, how rare it is.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I guess the reasoning is, why can you look to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: someone like a manager or at least a clubhouse presence
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: as to maybe why that's happening.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, I think if you want to say, well,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 9: this must be Dan Wilson, I think you've also got
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 9: to explain why. You know, Cole Young is broken out
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: this year, and the pitchers have all been good, and
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 9: guys like dominic Can's own and Luke Only have been
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: really good contributors, even JP Crawford when he was healthy.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: Obviously we negotiated his defense, but yeah, he was getting
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 9: on base for a while there, and you know he
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: didn't that before we win the IL. But like, I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: don't think you can isolate and say, well, Wilson has
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: been bad for these three guys this year, when last
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: year he wasn't bad for those guys. I think it's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: really threading a needle to say it's Wilson, and you know,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: eventually he will not have the job anymore, and maybe
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 9: somebody will come out and we'll get that, you know,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: the the post mortem that says, well, actually, Dan Wilson
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: was running around the clubhouse clipping guys with a with
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 9: a crowbar, and you know that'll be a whole different story.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: But I don't I have a hard time looking at
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 9: Wilson with the players who have played well this year
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: and saying, no, these three players have stucked because of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 9: Dan Wilson.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's just a it's a head scratch. Helped
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: me out here with Cole Young real quick. I wanna
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: move on some of the things. But I was a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: little curious. You said, he's he leads the AL on
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: defensive run save, but stat cast doesn't like his defense.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: Helped me out with that.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and this goes to just the different ways the
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: different systems. Defensive run Saved, which is by Sports Infro
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: Solutions is a whole bunch of guys looking at video
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 9: and saying he did this, He did this, and it
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: measures everything. It's not just a range base, it's you know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: did he knock down the ball and keep it in
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: the infield? With a runner on second to keep the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 9: runner from coming all the way around to score. There
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: are things like that relayless. It is a visual basis,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 9: a visual scouting. Stat cast is just an outs above
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 9: average is produced by stat cast, which is all those
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 9: cameras at the ballpark that give us all that cool
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: information about spin rate and batspeed. While it's also trained
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: on the fielders and it's using their systems, which is okay.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 9: It's not just measuring did the guy get to the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 9: ball or not. It's taking his starting position in the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 9: velocity and angle of the ball and saying, you know,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: what would a normal defender do here? And did he do?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 9: Make the player not? So it is an automated system
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: that uses formulating to get to an answer. It's two
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: completely different approaches, and I like to use both. I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 9: don't know the subscriber or not, but somebody on bluestyes today,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 9: so well, why are we using you know, drs when
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 9: we have out above average stack cast and stack cast
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 9: is great. And I said, well, one, there's no silver
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: bullet for defense. I've been doing this a long time,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: and the next silver the next time we can say
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 9: one stat tells you everything you know about defense is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: going to be the first time. Maybe stack cast eventually
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: gets that, but right now I want as much information
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: as possible. Baseball Perspectives also has a proprietary defensive stat
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: that I look at, So it's measuring, it's using different
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: approaches to try to get to the question of how
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: good a defender is this player relative to his peers.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: And like I said, DRS says Cole Young is the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: best second base in the American League this year. The
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: stack Caast cameras say no, he's actually slightly below average.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 9: And again I'm also willing to look. You know, defense
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: isn't like offense, where we have really good measurements. I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 9: think there's an element of subjectivity. I use my own
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: eyes when I at the end of the year, I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: vote the the Sis, the Fielding Bible Awards, and there
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: isn't for me when I'm making them killing on my ballot.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: I'm also using some sort of subjectivity. You know, I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: watched this guy all year.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 11: What did I think of his defense?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: I personally think Cole looks like a shortstop playing second,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: and I my evaluation is that he's closer to the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 9: DRS number as a plus plus second baseman than he
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 9: is to the OAA number.
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  Speaker 5: I just don't.
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  Speaker 9: When I look at him, he looks like a very
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: good gold Glove caliber second base.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: I think you could also make an argument that you'd
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: be better off at some point with Cole Young at
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: short and cold Emerson at third. But that's a conversation
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: for a different day. Let me read these numbers real
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  Speaker 1: quick for our listeners. Joe she And joining us, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, since May thirty first, twenty six in runs scored, last,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: in batting average last, and OBP twenty fifth and slugging
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  Speaker 1: twenty ninth in WBA last WRC plus. No, that's not
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the Mariners, it feels like it. Nope, that's the Yankees.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Since Aaron Judge went out. How are they doing it?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 9: Joe, Aaron and the Judge ats. I stopped making that
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 9: joke right at the point where the team became Aaron
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: and the Jets. And it hasn't helped. You know, Cody Bellinger,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 9: John Carlos Stanton. Stanton's been out forever and Bellinger got
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: hurt in July, so they're now playing without three of
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 9: their top five or six hitters.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: You know, they tried to turn over to some younger players,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 9: you know at the Evolpie they've been beating up for
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 9: a while. They gave up on him, just called up
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 9: the shortstop prospect Joorge Lombard. Jason Dimingiez also got sent down.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: They just don't have enough good hitters. You think about
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 9: the trades that Cashman made last year to pick up
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: Jashisham Junior and Ryan McMahon, and one of the one
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 9: of the ideas behind making those trades was, hey, we're
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 9: gonna have these guys for a couple of years. But
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: that hasn't worked out because neither one of those really
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: hitting you know, Austin Wells has fallen completely apart after
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: that great year two years ago. They just don't have
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 9: enough hitters. And it's an OVP thing, so you just
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: even though you're hitting some solo home runs, you just
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: don't have enough guys on base to keep an offense going.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: This is what they are, I mean to they actually
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 9: be twentieth without judge, sure, but they the players on
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 9: this team, in this lineup, this is who they are.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: I didn't really love the pickups at the deadline. Luis
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 9: star Sea Junior as a low VP slugger who really
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: can only play against righties. He's having a peak season
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 9: and the Nationals cash in a minut at the right time.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 9: Kelley o' ramos was a right fielder for the Giants
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 9: really also a platoon player. Can't hit right here the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: pitches very well at all, so they basically traded for
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: what amounts to a DH platoon. But Romanos is playing
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: every day and batting on the top of the lineup
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: against righties, which isn't helping them at all. So you know,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 9: those two guys would make for really good bench pieces
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: when Stanton and Bellinger and Judge. If Judge comes back,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 9: those guys come back, you've actually bolstered your dench really well.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 9: But right now you've just added more kind of mediocre,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 9: middling hitters to a lineup that has way too many
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 9: of them.
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  Speaker 9: It's a coin flip for me. And you're talking about
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  Speaker 9: two teams that have some of the best starting pitching
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: in the game. You know, the Brewers are up there,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: the Phillies with their top three as well. The Yankees
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  Speaker 9: have better depth, which shows up in the series a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 9: little bit. But man, the Mariners are throwing members don't
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: have anybody below the level of an average starting pitcher.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 9: Every night they put on an average pitcher, and you know,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 9: guys like Wu and Miller and Gilbert all have an
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: upside of you know, seven innings, two hits, one walk,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 9: twelve strikeouts. That's the upside of every pitcher in that rotation.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 9: So I'm still gonna call it a coin flip because
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 9: the Yankee is also you know, a lot of depth.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: But this gets back to what I've talked about with
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: the Maritors all year long. If they can just score
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 9: a few runs, they can win this division and then
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 9: you want no part of this pitching staff in the postseason.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: If they waste another year with this rotation, not getting
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 9: to the playoffs, there's just no way to not consider it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 9: One of the most disappointing teams in baseball. So this
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 9: pitching staff can you can literally ride them to a
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: World championship, but you got to get into the tournament first,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: which means Rally Naylor and Julio have to start hitting better.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: That's the only answer at this point.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: By the way, Brian Wu's first ever win Roade Brian
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Wu at Yankee Stadium, ow Okay, twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 9: Like I said, he had a three point four, three
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: point five Rodiera last year. It's just one of those
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  Speaker 9: things that happened. Think about the Red Sox guys, it
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 9: was twenty seven and twenty nine and then thirty seven
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 9: and fourteen. I'm getting the numbers.
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  Speaker 11: Mixed up, but you get what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, Or the Cubs, we have two ten game winning
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: streaks and a ten game losing streak. We don't want
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 9: to say that baseball just generates a lot of random numbers,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 9: but baseball generates a lot of random numbers and home
• 1:12:59
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  Speaker 1: Brian, I don't know, man, I love you, Joe. This
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: will be his thirteenth start away from home this season.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: It's one in eight six point seven to one ERA
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: sixty three innings pitched, which is only one and a
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: third lesson at home. He's given up fifty runs forty
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: seven or earned nine home runs four home runs at home,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: nine on the road. He's walked sixteen fifty eight strikeouts.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: His strikeout to walk ratio. Joe mentioned three point six three.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Bat batted balls in play, batting average on balls.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Batting average balls in play three point fifty two compared
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: to two fourteen, And.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: I am interested to kind of dive deeper into that
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: stat specifically because I think people use it in multiple
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: different ways. People look at cal Rawley's bapup last year
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: versus this year, okay, and you could say that there's
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: a huge gap. And basically what that does is it
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: takes out home runs and strikeouts, right, It's everything that
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: is put in play. So you could say, on one hand, yes,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: he relies so much on home runs and he strikes
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: out a lot, that his putting the ball in play
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: numbers are going to always be kind of lower than
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: you would expect, right. But on the other hand, you
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: can say, well, last year he was doing more besides
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: hitting home runs, he was hitting doubles. He was you know,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: getting on base when he put the ball in play.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: And a lot of baseball statisticians basically equate the BAPEP
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: stat to luck, like, Okay, how lucky are you getting?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: And that's I think what Joe was alluding to there.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: But I think there's definitely some room for nuance to
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: say that, hey, you're allowing a lot of balls in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: play and it's being hit hard, So that's why the
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: batting average on ball and play are being the number
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: is being a little bit higher. But just just so
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: everyone knows. But when most people reference BAPEP, it's basically
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: saying how lucky is he this year?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Or unlucky? Right? Exactly exactly luckier or unlucky in right regard.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just looking for where in that word, like.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: What's this fip on the road?
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I'll look for that?
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Is you for willyaman field independent pitching, which again it
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: takes out balls and play. It's strikeouts, walks and home runs.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to find what's what's ah there it is, Okay,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: there's Rally's. So last year his batting average balls in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: play to forty eight. Yeah, this year it's two o four.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: That's time in that big of a difference, to be honest.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: For his career, is it two forty seven?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: His I mean his rookie his twenty twenty one he
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: only had one hundred and forty one played appearance. Yeah,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: So let's just go since then to twenty six, Yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: two seventy three, two fifty one to forty eight and
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: now two o four.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking at if you use the batpep
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: as the luck stat his luckiest year was actually twenty twenty.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Three, Yes, at two seventy three, right, yeah, but I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: let's also go back. He's he's not a ball and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: play guy. He's also forty four points down from where
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: he was last correct. Yes, with all those home runs, Yes,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: he's still forty four points below, right. I mean, I mean,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: if you want to go, do you want to go
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: a hard hit rate? I mean yeah, okay, I mean,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: just I know I I all of those are going
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: to be down, I mean significantly way thirty four percent. Yeah,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: he was at fifty percent. I'm rounding up last year's
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: forty nine points sex so fifty percent last season forty eight,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: forty one, forty three. So he's his career average just
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: if you take out I mean, he's about fifteen sixteen,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: seventeen points below his career average there. Yeah, I mean
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: it's what Joe said, why is this team not doing well?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Because that guy's not doing well? And you put and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: in Jerry's defense, there's no way that those guys were
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: expecting him to hit sixty sixty one. There's just no way.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Let's let's let's all understand that we all we all
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: get that that's a given, that's an absolute given.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: They were getting his contract based off his previous couple
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: of years. What I'm saying, I'm talking about like going
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: into the season, what are you going to count on? Right, Like,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: when you're putting your ro season, when you're putting your
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: roster together, what are you thinking with cal Rawley?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: And I bet if you if you would get Jerry
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: in a truthful moment and say, what were you expecting? Well,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: he's twenty twenty four season. Well, let's just go through
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: his full seasons twenty seven home runs, thirty home runs,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: thirty four RBI sixty three seventy five, one hundred hundred,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: twenty five. So let's just say, for argument's sake, Jerry
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: probably say I could probably see him hitting thirty thirty five. Yeah,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: and people be like disappointment with that. No, right now,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: we'd be thrilled with that. So like, I don't put
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: that on Jerry. I don't put that on Dan. I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: don't put that on Justin lunatriic fringe. I don't put
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: that's a player. And then we go back to Julio.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Let's not put it all on him. Hell, let's just
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: go to Naylor, like, yeah, two home run Saturday Super
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: first two since you know, at home since June first first. Yeah,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: somehow Naylor has turned into a singles hitter, an effective
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: one lately, yeah, but a singles hitter. They're not paying
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: him at first base to be a singles hitter.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because if we were looking at all,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: the kind of underlying numbers with cal Rawley, Josh Naylors
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: almost look identical.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: From last year. God, So yeah, all right, we will
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  Speaker 1: All right, John Linne, we'll get him on here in
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  Speaker 11: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Who ah h stats are for losers, says A sixth
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  Speaker 1: three zero. Oh, this is an interesting one. I will
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: get to the all the texts come to the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the hour four two five Swing and Miss must
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  Speaker 1: be off the charts too, because he's just guessing at
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: the play talking about cal Rawley, right, and I don't know, man,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I let's see what is I can find that to
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: take a minute, but let's just look at what Joe said,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: and this is an interesting dynamic. What do you call it?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: Judge and the judgets.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: So what they've been doing, they being the Yankees since
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Judge went out offensively is Mariner esque twenty six in
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: run scored last and batting average last, nobp twenty fifth
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: out of thirty and slugging. I could go on. They're
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: one superstar hitter. He got hurt, Stanton has him been
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: there and they're paying the price. Except their run differential
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: is almost ninety. So the similarities and part of it
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: is much like Seattle great pitching staff. Joe just talked
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: about that, but they're supporting their pitching staff just enough.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Seattle is not. You can so like like as much
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: as we want to bang on cal Naylor Julio, I
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: mean the rodding carcass at once was named Rob Refsnyder
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: and others that have been coming and going and all
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: those things. The offense basically other teams can can make
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: do as well. They just haven't done it. They haven't
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: done it. I mean, I'm just looking at the text
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: line here, and I mean we're gonna get more of
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: this tomorrow. We'll see, I mean, maybe they get a
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: win tonight. We feel a lot better.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: You compare that to the Yankees, and you know, it's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: it's very similar offensive numbers as a whole, right, but
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: you're looking at it just feels like the Mariners whenever
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: they do get a little bit of offense. Oh, the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: starting pitcher happens to blow up. Happened that Brian wu
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: can't get out of the fourth inning in Texas?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: Right, or.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: You know, you get you get a couple of runs
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: in the first inning, but they go quiet for the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: rest of the day. But then Logan Gilbert in the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: fifth inning, has you know, a couple of weird plays
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: happen and it's all of a sudden three to two
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: at that they're just not winning game.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: It's not one I personally don't think.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Obviously the offense is the biggest hole, but it's not
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: one part of their game that's consistently failing them. They're
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: just not whatever it is, they're not winning baseball games.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: They're almost finding ways to lose exactly is what ends
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: up happening. And I think with these guys right now,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: and I think Wu might be the great example of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: this on the road. Road Brian, Wu, go get a win.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: And just that's why I keep saying I'm confident, Like
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: we kind of joke about it here on the show
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: all the time, like I'm not usually glass half full guy.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: As far as baseball team's concerned, they are one good
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: week away. Don't say again, stopping. They're one good week away.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: That's but that's that the math tells you they're one
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: good week away.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: My god, did the eyes tell you that?
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, well no, I don't need the eyes. They're one
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: good week away. Do the eyes tell me they're capable
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: of me?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: The answer is no, Yeah, all right, John Lend.
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  Speaker 6: Welcome to Ian's weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed. He's
• 1:25:21
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  Speaker 6: and the NFC West and dupes it out with the
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  Speaker 6: inn Over, the.
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  Speaker 4: Niners and the Hawks.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: So let's unleash it now with John Lunn. Here's Ian.
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  Speaker 4: Oh gee, pull the phone.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 12: Oh this is an unscheduled surprise, it's him on This
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  Speaker 12: young man has had a very trying rookie season, what
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 12: with the litigation, the notoriety is subsequent deportation to Canada
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  Speaker 12: and the countries.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Refusing to accept him.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 12: Well, I guess that's more than most twenty one year
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  Speaker 12: olds could handle it.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: The Bay Areas, Ogie Oglethorpe is back. He's better.
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  Speaker 11: You cannot kill me.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 13: I mean cocking roach.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: That was that was that was pulled straight from K
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  Speaker 1: and BR. That's that was the listeners on Monday when
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  Speaker 1: you showed back up.
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  Speaker 13: Pure craziness.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: This business pure craziness for those for those who don't know,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: we we in some ways tongue in cheek. Tried to
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: joke about a guy getting laid off John for the
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: last what eighteen months or so, and and you were
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: doing some Westwood Want just a bunch of other things,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you got this stupid business of radio. And
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: then this is a first for me. I've never heard
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: this before. The place that laid you off came groveling
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: back and you went back, what the hell are you doing?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 13: Why not?
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 11: About two weeks ago, I get this call and they're like, hey,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 11: you want your old time.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 13: Slot back and I go maybe, and then so they just.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 11: Called me back and they just said, hey, why don't
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 11: you come back, and then being bing bong, you know,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 11: they offered me a terrible contract and I thought, this
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 11: is great, and then I came back. So I literally
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 11: and this is why I'm late. I was on the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 11: air and because I'm so talented that, you know, the
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 11: guy who's in the afternoon wouldn't let me go.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 13: So it's like seven after and I go, dude.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 11: I gotta go, man, I got people. I got a
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 11: regular gig.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 13: I don't know how long this one's going to last,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 13: but I got a.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Regular gig that I do all the time. And so
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: here I am.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 11: But yeah, I'm back on camby are I am back
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 11: being public enemy number one. I just had a bunch
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 11: of niners on the show and everything, and so yeah,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 11: I'm back in the belly of the Beast. I am back.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 11: I'm back here on the flagship of the forty nine
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 11: ers doing Middays. It's insane.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I never would have thought that. It's crazy. My favorite
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: part of this is people now, the Greg Papa situation.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Don't all these battling answer and our best goes out
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: to him. We like to have phone with Greg, but
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: no question. But you know, and that's a whole difference.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: But the guy that basically replaced you, people are like
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: feeling bad for him. Now yeah, Mike Silver's kid. It's like, wait, wait,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: you're feeling sorry for the guy that replaced Wait what
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Like what about the guy that first got I told people.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 11: That's what I told people, like, go, look, if you know,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: you know, Greg's one of my best friends and he's
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: going to battle this whole thing. But then the kid
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 11: that and the first day on the job, like it
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 11: was just the weirdest thing. Plus you know, the thing
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 11: is too they've moved studios and stuff. So like yesterday,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 11: even though I've been on this radio station for like
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 11: fifteen years, I go downstairs to try to get into
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 11: the station and I can't because I don't have a
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 11: key card or anything. And so, you know, the security
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 11: guy comes up to me and goes, are you new here?
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 11: And I go, I guess I am. It was like
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 11: it was like being in the Twilight Zone yesterday. I'm
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 11: used to it now, and like you said.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: This business is crazier, but he knows that.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 11: But it's it was just weird, Like I'm like, I'm
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 11: in a different studio, but it's the same station, and
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 11: they turfed me twenty minutes twenty eight minutes ago, uh,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 11: twenty months ago, and it's just it's just totally weird.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 13: It's just really weird.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: Our best goes out, our best does go out to
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: your former co host. But he did send a message.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 13: Can you feel it now?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: We can, we can. I know you're going to do that.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: You're going to do Thanks, thank you.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 13: I got something for you too. Because I said listen
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 13: to this.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 11: They got so mad at me. Today's listeners today they
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 11: were like for about thirty seconds like, oh my god,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 11: we're glad you're back. This is awesome, this, that and
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 11: the other.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 13: And today I asked somebody.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 11: On the Niners this, I said, I think Seattle's flying
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 11: under the radar and I think Mike McDonald loves it.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 13: And people lost their minds, like how.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 11: Can the Super Bowl champs play under the raidar? And
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 11: I'm like, everybody's rams, rams, rams, rams, all rams, just
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: everything is rams all the time.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 13: And I thought, you know, I don't know that there's
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 13: been a.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 11: Super Bowl champion that just has gotten and I don't
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 11: care about respect, this, that and the other. You get
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 11: this done on the field. This is in college football.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 11: You don't have rankings but that and I got I
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 11: bet Mike McDonald is just loving it. And I just
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 11: I said that on the air. I think it's just
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 11: a great thing for Seattle, and they're like, you've been
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 11: gone you love the Seahawks. I'm like, I think that
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 11: was your listeners that are starting to spread that it's
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 11: happening on like the text line, yep, that's what people
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 11: are saying. That's well, we have to be bunk that
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 11: right away. What Andrews, what have you been saying for
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 11: years now.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Years years, Even when you were on KMB earlier, I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: was like, this guy's a closet Seahawks totally a closet
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Seahawks fan.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent of closet Seahawks.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 11: Fan that rumor, and it's getting up here and people
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 11: are getting very upset, but it's you know whatever, I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 11: don't care. What are they gonna do?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: Fire me?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: This is a closet Niners fan.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: That's that's a one hundred percent. That is one hundred percent.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 11: Like we have that documented on I think we have
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: audio of that actually saying that one time.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: The only thing I'm know, I'm a fan of two things.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: When I was traveling, I was a fan of two
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: things with with the forty nine ers. One we'd be
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: going when we stayed in San Jose, going to Original
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: Joe's for dinner on a Saturday or Sunday night, so good,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: so good, so good, like unbelievably good. And and to
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: the Omelet station at Levi Stadium on a Sunday that
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: I was I was a fanadastical. Yeah, very solid, really good,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: really solid. Nothing it's yeah, I would agree with you.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 11: Sunday night. The Niners do this every single year Sunday Night.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 11: And this is the most awkward thing. I ain't seen
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 11: most of these guys for like two years, and then
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 11: I've been bad mouthing them since I've been gone and
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 11: all that kind of stuff. And so we have this
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 11: dinner at Original Joe's in North Beach in San Francisco,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 11: and the Niners do this thing and the booze is
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 11: flowing and everything's free, and so everybody just gets bombed
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 11: on the forty nine ers dime. And we did it
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 11: at that Original Joe's and it was so awkward. Yeah,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 11: because I went there actually earlier and drank a few
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 11: drinks to kind of loosen up, because you know, I've
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 11: been talking trash about these guys now the station stinks
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 11: and all this kind of stuff, and then it's like,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 11: I see him face to face. I'd never go back there.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 13: Those guys fuck, there's nothing without me. And then I go,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 13: you know, I go back. I'm like, hey, buddy, how's
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 13: it going there.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now, the day that
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: the day that they escort me out of here there,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you they're never going to want me back.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: And you know who would be even worse than that,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: the guy that's after me, The guy does the show
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: from three o'clock to seven o'clock.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: Like that guy.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: When they turf him, it's gonna be fire and Brimstone. Man,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad. Well, I
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: tuned in today. First of all, I had to. I
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: had to go. I had deleted the K and br
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: app but now it's back on the phone. Yeah I did,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: but it was back on so ted I'm figuring. I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: just yeah, I get to a stop sign, I hit
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: the you know thing, and I'm like okay, I just
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: I'm then I see you, like, why is the app?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Can I just get the audio to look at you?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 11: He look, you're preaching to a choir on that one.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 11: You know everybody knows I look like the elephant.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 13: Man.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I hear no human being.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 11: I tell people.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 13: I tell people personally that don't go there. Like you know,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 13: most stations like, yeah, join us on YouTube.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 11: I'm like, please, don't do not join us on YouTube.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 11: Like it's just it's it's not good, it's terrible. I
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 11: can't imagine you drove down the street and did that.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: But no, I put it.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: I put the phone down. People, I'm not I'm not
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. I'm not Kyle Shanahan. The phone down, buddy,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: I put the phone down.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 13: That he's okay, I.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: I put it down. But here's the best part, Andrews,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: you'll love this. So I'm listening and he's talking about
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: the oh, you know, the Warriors and when they trade
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: staff and you know, you're just most that was very popular. Yeah,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: trade staff and all this stuff. And I'm like, Okay,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: this is awesome. I'm enjoying every second of this. But
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: then the next segment he did it like calling radio
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: a bit okay, very well to see and and all
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: I can think of is I think that came from
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: our show, our conversations over the last couple of years.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Tell people the bit you did after that, well, I
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: mean I thought it was hilarious, and I did too.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: I thought it was great.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 13: It's a heritage radio station.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 11: So what you had on the text line before I
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 11: tell you what it is is all these old people
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 11: that are, you know, above a certain age, like, this
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 11: is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And then you know,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 11: younger people thought it was the funniest thing. But basically
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 11: what we did was we came up with like five
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 11: questions and then we and it sounded like it was
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 11: being asked to the substation.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 13: So we had this substation like.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 11: And we had these like lightning bolts going on in
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 11: the background, and they had Eddie grants, you know, Electric
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 11: Avenue going down to Electric a new and we have.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 11: So the substation I was like, can you just give
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 11: us a break this year? Why do you have to
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 11: hurt Ricky Piercell, Hey man, come on, it's Kyle had
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 11: the head coach. Can't you give us a break? So
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 11: the substation answered all these questions and we were cracking
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 11: up about it. I thought it was hilarious. Old people
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 11: were like, this.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 13: Is so dumb. I'm never listening to this show ever.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 13: And then I'm like, good, go away.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: I don't care the substance, the substation. The substation was
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: classic and it's legit, legit. How many guys, how many
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: guys miss practiced today for the forty nine ers, I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: don't well listen to this.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 13: So every time they say something.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 11: Like don't work, don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. They've
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: been saying that for about both are like five days,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: don't worry. Well, now it comes out that he's week
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 11: to week.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 13: Not day to day, week to week with knee tennantitis.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: Or they told us today, don't worry about Christian McCaffrey,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: no problem. Now he's been out for like three straight days.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 11: So it's just it's just it's unbelievable because that's what
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 11: these things turn into, and yet you can't help it.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 11: And what's funny is is that like we bring people
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: on that are you know, smart people. I mean, we're
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 11: close to Stanford. I'm not I could I can't even
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: go to the campus. But but you know, I'm like
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 11: asking for me and people are calling up and they
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: really think this is a thing, Like they they think
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 11: it's a thing, and I'm just like we come on,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 11: like it can't be. But it's it's gotten to the
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 11: point in this in this town that like people are
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 11: really it's like believing in Bigfoot, but they do. They
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 11: believe in this substation thing, and it's just it's turned
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 11: into this crazy thing. But like you said, it's hard
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 11: to debunk because at one point they had twenty guys
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 11: out of camp. And we're not talking about like guys
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 11: who don't matter. We're talking about you know, Mike Evans,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: like you said, Bosa green Law, like.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 13: You know, the CMC, like it's the substation doesn't.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: Go after like you know, nobody's it hits, you know,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 11: George Kittle, like those are the guys the substations, like
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 11: you know, every year unbelievable.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: That's why you did. That's why you had the substation
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: on the air today. Yeah right, Yeah, I'm sure the
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers love it out. I'm sure the forty
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: nineers loved that.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: Oh I'm glad to Yeah, So I've been back.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 11: This is my second day and so, uh, one of
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 11: our one of our guys, one of our internet guys.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 11: So that's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Oh, we're
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 11: putting it up. And then they put it up. I
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 11: guess what happened. They got a call Hello, Yes, this
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 11: is the forty nine ers. Could you please take that
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 11: bit down? We don't think it's funny at all, and
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 11: then therefore it got deleted. So we thought it was funny,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 11: We posted it, people thought it was funny, and then
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 11: we got a call from from mom and dad and
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 11: they told us that, yeah, that's got to go away.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: So they don't have a sense of humor about it.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: So that's weird. That's strange that they don't have a
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: sense of Who could have predicted that they wouldn't have
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: a they'd have a problem with that. I just find
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: that shocking, to be honest with you. Yeah, I on
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: them two days into this thing, while four.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: Two five has John Lunn thank you for reviving his
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: career Ian forn Us.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah have you? No, you haven't.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, good point.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: We kept hey wow, if nothing else, we kept the
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Lund pilot light a lit right, That's what we did.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: We kept it.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: That's fair and now and now you're back in the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: belly of the Beast in the Bay Area, and it
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: is fantastic and we can talk now the only we
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: can share our hatred for the Rams and and and all.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 11: By the way, they might have a substation that pook
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 11: and the Coua is out of practice today, Myles Garrett, I.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Was just gonna say that, like, well, poo Pooka, that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: weird old freak. He probably bit somebody again or something, right, Like,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: who knows what that guy dide.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it might be something out there. I mean, I'm
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 13: not rooting for it, even though my voice is kind
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 13: of inflecting upwards.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 6: I'm not looking for it.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 13: But that's not cool, not cool. But they're saying they
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 13: don't even they.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Don't know what it is, and it's like whoa, So
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: anyway that would be that'd be unfortunate, if if I'd
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: be really unfortunate, if those guys are bad.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 11: That's our line on the show.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: That would not be good. We're not wishing for We're
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: not wishing for that, But that'd be unfortunate, that'd be bad.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 13: Ye.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: How about are other friends in the ore, other friends
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: in the NFC West. I wonder how much they'll enjoy
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: watching thirty million dollars of their money go to the
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 11: Huh oh, Yeah, that's a rough one. Yeah, I mean
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 11: that one I never understood because you're thinking yourself, Look,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 11: I'm sure you have bad issues, and like you said,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 11: I'm down in Phoenix to a lot of the time,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: and and it's like, Okay, Jacoby Brissette or work it
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 11: out with Kyler Murray. And look, he's not the best.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 13: We've all seen it, you know, through the.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 11: Years with Kyler Murray. I mean, he shows flashes and
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 11: then he's a complete moron. But but he's better than
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 11: Jacoby Brisset. He's better than No, he's not better than
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 11: Gardner Minshew, but he's better than Jacoby Busset. And he's
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 11: you know, Carson Beck showed some flashes. Everyone's freaking out.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 11: I mean, come on, it was a Hall of Fame game.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Who knows.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 11: But yeah, that I don't understand. I mean, you're you're
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 11: gonna choose Jacoby Brissett over trying to work things.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 13: Out with Kyler Murray, and you're gonna pay Kyler.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 11: Murray over thirty million dollars to people realize that the
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 11: Cardinals have one of the most expensive quarterback rooms in
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 11: the NFL and he's playing for the Vikings.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: That's amazing, That's that's remarkable. Well, here's the thing I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: don't like about it, though, is I there's there's something
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: that there's a skill set there for Murray. Now, it's
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: not gonna make him taller, like we always said that
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: with Russ, like it did nothing with Russ was never
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: going to grow. But and that's and that's one of
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Murray's biggest issues. But there is a skill set there.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: He goes to a guy that is kind of a
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: quarterback whisperer. Like I don't we don't need him to
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: have good co coaching and like nobody needs better teams
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: in the NFC, you know, like that's the only thing. Well,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Connall can help this guy out. We don't need to
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: see that in this conference.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 11: Well you did just pointing it out.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 13: I mean, Sam Darnold throws thirty five touchdown passes and.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 11: Goes down there and helps you know, Seattle win a
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 11: championship and it's it really hasn't.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Been a question.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 11: I mean, Murray has the talent and all that kind
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 11: of stuff, and he sells the speed and all that
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 11: kind of stuff. And yeah, like you said, height to side,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 11: but if Kevin O'Connell can work with him on certain things.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 11: And here's the other thing too, is I mean, there
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 11: is a boatload of talent offensively. Just get it to
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 11: Justin Jefferson. There's a lot of talent there offensively. As
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 11: you point it out, it's the NFC West that the
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 11: North is already really really good with the Bears Packers,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 11: I think the Lions are gonna are gonna bounce back.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 11: And now you if Murray is what we're talking about here,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 11: then all of a sudden, Minnesota's back into it. I mean,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: what were they nine to eight last year or something
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 11: they I mean the throw that Brosmer made last year
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 11: that Ernest Jones intercepted was the I don't care what
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 11: anybody says, it was the worst pass of the year.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 11: That wasn't even a pass. It was just one of
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 11: the dumbest things anybody did all year. That's the kind
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 11: of quarterback play they were getting. If they even get
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 11: competent quarterback play, they're gonna be difficult because Brian Flores
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 11: is a great defensive coordinator. So yeah, that's that's not good.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Didn't know. Didn't Kyler have one of those of Witherspoons
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: last year two years ago, that Witherspoon he had when
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: Kyler had a similar one to Witherspoon. Yeah, so, I
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: you know, the thing is is that it's you. At
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: the end of the day. You still have to have
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: a guy that's competent decision making and Murray isn't that,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Like he never has been. Kyler has never been that
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for. We're waiting for a depth chart from Dallas.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: We got one from Seattle. I saw you posted one
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: from the forty nine. It's depth chart season buddy.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: Huh.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: It's like it's football porn for everybody.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 11: That's what I called it. Yeah, preseason porn, and everybody
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 11: just it's the dumbest thing. And this is how most
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 11: teams do it. I'm sure the Seahawks do too. That
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 11: the coaches aren't really worried about depth charts and.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: So nothing against him.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 11: It's just the pr staff puts it out and everybody
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 11: freaks out and acts like it's because you know what,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 11: we're so obsessed with any more of football. So just
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 11: they put out a depth chart and I just felt
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 11: compelled to do it. Like I did a segment on
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 11: the Depth Chart. I felt dirty and disgusting after I
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 11: did it, but it was like, that's just what sometimes
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 11: you just got to do it the people want. And
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 11: so there's like two or three on there that you're like,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 11: how's this guy ahead of this guy? And it was like,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 11: you know, I'm just like, oh, I feel just worse
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 11: about it.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 13: But you know, it's we just can't get enough. Becomes
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 13: a big day, like.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 11: The depth chart comes out, it's a big day.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: Anders Look what I printed up. It's the Seahawks. That's
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: right there. There's a reason I'll get in. I'll get
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: into why later this week. But I actually had to
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: print it up. Okay, listen, congratulations, this will be.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 13: It was all you're doing.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 11: But it was all you're doing.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take all the credit. I'm gonna take all
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: the credit, except when you just you know, something goes
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: south again a sideways, So then I want no credit. John,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: who you want give me no severance? I know that one,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: never heard one, never heard of the I'm not sure
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: who you're talking about about.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 11: Beautiful because now we can we can really hate each
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 11: other again and you'll hate our station and we can
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 11: have yawn.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you don't want that. You don't want that.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 11: I was so, yeah, we do.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: I think I did one or two. I think I
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: did two hits with you and Papa, and I was
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: never asked back for some reason.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 13: Yeah, he's he's touchy.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 11: He's touchy. He gets.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's touchy.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 13: Every time we'd.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 11: Hang up, every time, you know what, he really liked you.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 11: He didn't like Bucket, but he liked you.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 11: And then it would be like, you know, we'd hang up,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 11: and then he'd be like, who are those jackasses? Those
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 11: are friends of mine?
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: Man, No buddy, who could throw a football? That's not Greg?
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: But sure, I think that's I think that's right on.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: I saw you know, Meryl Reech. Yeah that was bad.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't see Greg. I didn't see Greg after one
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: of those hits. When you guys were in town and
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: he was on the sideline we did our live shots
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: for Fox on the visiting side and he walks by
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: and I introduced myself in person. He was very cordial,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: very nice guy. So I think I think any issues
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: were on your end, not his. But that's just that's
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: probably not surprise either.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 11: All right, Actually I am throwing him into the bus.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 11: I was the one who had a problem with you
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  Speaker 11: and didn't want you.
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  Speaker 1: One ever again. That's right. Well, we'll talk admit it,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week. In the meantime,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: if you guys want to listen about Steph Curry and
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with him to.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 11: Get moved today, trade Steph Curry. They're like, oh my god,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 11: please go back into hiding.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I love that. Trade Steph, and let's have the substation on.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a solid hour of radio for you.
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  Speaker 1: I see a long and prosperous does a long and
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• 1:44:38
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  Speaker 13: If you guys are hiring there, I'll board off whatever.
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  Speaker 11: I'll go talk to I think this is gonna last
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 11: very long.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go see if it's Moores around c If if
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  Speaker 8: Hey guys, KYL Rawley, you are your favorite big dumper.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 8: Funny nickname there, But yeah, I just want to say
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 8: that I do remain focused. Has nothing to do in
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: the offseason with WBC not shaking Randia Roser in his hand.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I am a tough guy.
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  Speaker 8: Or the four hundred and seventy five commercials I was
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  Speaker 8: will remain focused and probably strike out tonight, but I
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: know you'll stick with me because my name isn't Julio.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys, the right hand bomb at the end. By
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: the way, Cal moved up in the lineup. He's hitting
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: six today deserved. Well, he's only doing that because Naylor's out.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: He's got a little wrist issue, as we all know.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: So we'll see what Naylor's out. So that means you
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: get Wilson at first base today. God, so leading off
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: is your guy Taylor Warder. As I said on the
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: show yesterday, I went to the game. My wife says
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: to me, who's this random guy.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great description.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: I go, he's supposed to hit home runs, and now
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: he's a singles hitter and what gets on base? But
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: all he's done his strikeouts as a guy here and
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: then literally immediately he rings one off the wall. Hey,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: there you go, and then went over for the rest
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: of the day.
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  Speaker 14: All right, next time, I'm tired of people saying that
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 14: Julio Rodriguez is a superstar. He's an average player at best.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 14: Trade him and this starting lineup of pictures. Their starting
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 14: rotation is ridiculously inept. Home run after home run after
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 14: home run. They're born to break your heart.
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  Speaker 2: Good timing after that previous talkback, you have all people
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: you want to trade Julio, I have no I have
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: no words.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Starting pitch, taking final one fire away.
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  Speaker 11: Hey, guys, love the show. I could almost see it
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 11: now the Lions will trade for JJ McCarthy to beet
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 11: their backup or third string. That will happen.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: It just makes too much sense. Later not the same division,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: it won't happen. Yeah, okay, hey, Ian's as a father
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: and honor have you already covered this? But one's fund
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  Speaker 1: sanon Thursday. Let's go get it ready Thursday play unofficial
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: start of the weekend Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, typical marriage, feel
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: good Installas are driving moves instead of doing what's right.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: From a baseball standpoint, Timo will Park is a baseball
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: theme park, not a baseball park.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually a funny description.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: I kind of is. Yeah, let's see four two five Ian.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: This drives me crazy. Dan Wilson coaches players for the Manors.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Are professionals. What happens when professionals don't perform? They get fired.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Person takes it maybe personally, but it's not. It's business.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: I have to do my job and you do as well.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: If you don't perform and people don't turn tune in,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: what would happen? Should you take that personal? Should others
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: take it personal? Nope? I mean, listen, there's no more
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: personal profession than what we do. Our lives are here
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: every day, we talk about ourselves every I mean, it's yeah.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: And if you don't want to listen, don't like, don't relate,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: they get ready. I've listen, man, I've I've somehow avoided
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: it for our almost twenty years. So I don't know
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: what I don't know what the secret sauce is I
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: would I fooled them. I fooled them so far. But
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: you're right, like in most jobs and most professions, if
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: you're not doing your job, you get let go. You know,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: h only way to fix the team is trade cal
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: he's alienated the clubhouse he has, or as somebody else.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how much that the Randy stuff
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: really plays into it. I really don't. I'm serious. I'm
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: not like diluting that.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: I just I don't. Baseball is just such a different
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: sport because and here's where I agree with you. Baseball
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: is very different in this regard you. It's individual based
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: in terms of most performances. Right. In other words, like
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: you go up as a solo person swinging a bat.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: It has the least like your output as a player
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: compared to other sports, has the least amount to do
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: with other players on your team. Yes, it's it's you
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: versus the pitcher or you know, pitcher versus the hitter.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, what.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: Another guy is doing the lineup?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you may see more pitches because of people around
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: you aren't hitting well, right, But it's very minimal compared
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: to like football, where you need the receiver to catch
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: the ball when you throw it to them.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, very very true, very very true. Judge has
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: many home runs as Julio as in half the games.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: BRA He's got it oblique. Well, if he's hurt, why
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: is he playing?
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 11: Why is he playing?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: There's there's nothing though, like in terms of bat speed
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: that suggests he's hurt. No, that's the thing like that,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: that's something that would show up right with bat speed
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: and backs like that.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's who was it Eno that brought it
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: up last week? That was just like it's it sucks
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: to say, but he's just in his head. He's swinging
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: a pitch as he normally does the swing app and
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: he's not hitting the ones that he should be destroying.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Maria's put six players in the top fifty. They shouldn't
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: be there, miss at least four that should. It's a
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: joke game player playing better than all but forty four
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: other players. You didn't even put on a Rose Raina.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: What a joke? Did Did Randy deserve to be on that?
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: You think? I mean, I'm asking this seriously.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: It depends on what your criteria is. I think for
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: a guy that's been here for less than two seasons
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: about two seasons exactly at this point? Actually did they did?
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: They have to have three catchers. The Valley one was
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: just and and Dave's a good dude, great dude.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think he would be pissed if he was
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 3: left off it.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: I bet he was shocked he found out he was
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, right right, I thought they.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 3: I thought Geno should have been a.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Frez one of the biggest hits in franchise history.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: Obviously Jeff Nelson, that's the main one. Nelly and then
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: Nelly one is just weird. Here's the thing with the
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: Nelly one, and now you can't walk back from that.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: You can't, like you've if if you wanted to repair
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: the relationship, then you could have by putting him on
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: that fifty man, and you didn't. I there's no reasonable
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: explanation why he's not on it. Evan Dias for me
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: as well, one of the best. He had a couple
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: of the best seasons in Mariner Reliever.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought Mike Schooler could have been on it.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Their first grade clothes, yes, I mean yeah, I mean,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: you're gonna miss guys. It's just part of it is
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: how it goes. Somebody said yesterday, and I totally agree.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: Probably should have had fifty four, not fifty softies necks.
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  Speaker 4: Alrady?
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  Speaker 1: All yeah, I don't see him. I'm looking around. I
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  Speaker 1: don't see you here. Where you are?
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  Speaker 15: I want to be heard, not scenes to know, basis,
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 15: and right now you don't need to know. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 15: I'm at the Ameral Queen Casino.
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  Speaker 4: My friend Okay, my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, uh we had our friend John lundon.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: Earlier as he's back at CAMBR.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: So he's back at CAMBR.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: Came crawling back to the Sports Leader.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: Now, they crawled back to him, and they begged him.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: They kind of baged them. They actually did they really
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: get rid of Papa when he was in the hospital, but.
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  Speaker 1: They did, they did.
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  Speaker 4: It's really bad bunch of nerds.
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  Speaker 1: We were we were talking though about about like how
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  Speaker 1: crazy this dumb business is. And I'll give him credit
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: because he didn't burn a bridge. Now, I said, I
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  Speaker 1: know two people. They might both be on the air
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  Speaker 1: right now together.
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  Speaker 13: You me.
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  Speaker 1: When they escort you out of the building as they
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  Speaker 1: did the one, is there any chance that you would
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: ever be able to come back?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: The answer?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 15: I answer, like when they escort me out the building,
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  Speaker 15: like I'm going to be here when I'm told I'm
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 15: no longer wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you're not coming.
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  Speaker 15: Oh, I would just I would give everybody a hug
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  Speaker 15: and a kiss, and I would slide down the banister
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  Speaker 15: to the parking lot. All right, I'd jumped down the
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  Speaker 15: elevator shift. I wouldn't even wait for the elevator. Well,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 15: here's a bunch of hole in a window, and fly
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  Speaker 15: out of there.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Here's what's bad. I was joking about it. I go, god,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, I softly that I would
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: probably go out like we would not handle it as well,
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: and they would probably be and I know they'd never
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: call us back. But I say that I go use
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: the restaurant. I come back in. We got that little
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: card key thing on our app on our phone, Andrews.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: I came in here with like twenty seconds left, right, Yeah,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: I couldn't get back in, and I'm like, ohkow, what
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: the last segment?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: You thought that was it?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: I had to have I literally had to have somebody
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: let me in. That came one of the sales do.
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  Speaker 15: Before year show. You're talking no, just down just now,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 15: just just now. You thought they would whack here before
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 15: cross Talk? Right stop here.
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  Speaker 4: That's just for a couple of bucks back in your paychecks.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: That's uh, that's a Ryan Clark thing.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 15: Here says here you missed cross Talk on August eleventh,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 15: it will be seventeen fifty.
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  Speaker 1: It's because you wouldn't let me back in. I could
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  Speaker 1: not get back in. I wanted to talk to my
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  Speaker 1: friend Dave, and the would let me back. But I
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  Speaker 1: thought I thought, oh god, okay, well maybe.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 15: That'd actually be a pretty fun way to go if
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 15: Rich Moore or Marshall actually just uh went on the
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  Speaker 15: air with me, walked in the door and said we
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  Speaker 15: got an announcement.
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  Speaker 1: I's gone.
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  Speaker 4: We we were out.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: He went to the restroom. I never came back. That's like,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, hey, can you let me into one
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: of the els? Be like, why things not working? I
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: don't know, you know, for some guys of your age.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: That's how it happened, is right there, right there in
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: the toilet. Heel over, is there a better place to go?
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: You're doing one of your favorite things you like to do,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: exactly my favorite thing. I mean really when you get to.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: It, and Andrews, let me explain something to your pal.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 15: That's what happens when you have a baseball team that
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 15: is on fire from the inside. It's the kind of
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 15: stuff you had to talk about when you're still a
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 15: few days away from me preseason opener. The baseball team
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 15: sticks bet what like? Talk about getting fired to the toilet.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Better chance, better chance that one of us gets fired
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: on the on the on the crapper or Dan Wilson
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: gets fired.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: Ever you and me for yeah, you here that John
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: Stanton named his dog after Dan Wilson.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: You're joking. Please tell me, you tell me your true.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 4: Story that I just made up?
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, Goods, what did shock the hell out of about?
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: I brought that? I was thinking about the Sharilier because
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: I heard you yesterday, and you know the Jeff Nelson thing,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: which there isn't one person, oh God, that thinks that
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: that agrees with the marrior's decision.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: Of course not, of course not. But he's pissed, right, Yeah,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: he's not happy.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 11: He's not.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: You can never I don't want to.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to. I don't want to speak out
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: of term. But he's not he's not well.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: He shouldn't be, hope.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 15: Not only is he top fifty, he's probably top thirty
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 15: franchise history, well, number one in games pitched a you
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 15: kidding me, only middle reliever to make the All Star
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 15: Game three point whatever e er and you got Mike
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 15: Jackson in there, like, what are we doing?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: Dave Valley?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 5: Who?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 15: Look, we all love Dave Valley, but Dave Valley was
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 15: so bad that a sports bar was pricing their drinks
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 15: on his batting average.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: That's how bad he was. And he's top fifty.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 15: When you went to Swanne's een in nineteen eighty seven, yes,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 15: and paid a dollar ten for a Schlitz, did you
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 15: ever think that Dave Valley would be in the top
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 15: fifty of all time maritors?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: Of course it was actually a rubbing coke, But yes, no,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: I never thought that. By the way someone says they would, uh,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: you can only have one fire, Dan Wilson or Katie Wilson,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: which one.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: Fetus face. Anybody named Wilson has to go.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 15: Russell's already as we already got it a Russ A
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 15: russ were west and Wilson vetus face goes after and
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 15: then Weston, although we need Weston tonight because Naylor's banged up,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 15: so we need Weston to night.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: What are we doing today?
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Okay, what are we doing? What's today? Tuesday?
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 4: John Wilner joining us.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 15: We're gonna head to Detroit and get a take on
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 15: Terry on Arnold from our buddy Matt Deary locked on Lions.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: Greg Belle would join us as well.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 15: On the radio program, Greg get twenty Hey, how many
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 15: times can you do that without taking a breath.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tie it in there?
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 5: You're ready?
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: Time me right now, timey get the clock going, got
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: it start? Let me know we you're ready?
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  Speaker 5: Ready? Ready?
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  Speaker 4: There we go three two one Gregg.
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  Speaker 1: Seconds eight seconds.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 4: You know what that sounds like?
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 15: By the way, it's like through a let table here
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 15: at the Emerald, Queen, it's you spin.
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  Speaker 1: Alright, Red twenty one sounds like you had too many
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: cocktails of the No.
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  Speaker 15: I just doubled my money I'm black. During the last
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 15: break the boy, I'm a happy camper. I'll give it
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 15: back in the next break, but for now, I'm a winner.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 15: By the way, speaking of that, speaking of that branch,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 15: Metro's on today. Thank god they won.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Crap, You're always a winner in our heart. Deam, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: See for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.
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  Speaker 4: This is Paddled Day saying so long everyone,