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I Choose...Men's Health with Dr. Cedrek McFadden · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Garth. Hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This is the podcast all
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  Speaker 1: about the choices we make and where they lead us.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when I promised you guys that we would talk
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  Speaker 1: about some man stuff. Well, June is men's health month,
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  Speaker 1: so I wanted to have a conversation dedicated to this
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  Speaker 1: important topic because I know we have male listeners out there. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: I love you, and we have a lot of women
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  Speaker 1: who have male partners or you know, you just have
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  Speaker 1: a guy in your life that you care about. I
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  Speaker 1: have a certain man in my life and he gets
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  Speaker 1: me so riled up on the subject, the taking care
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  Speaker 1: of oneself subject. So he is going to join us
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  Speaker 1: for this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, babe, Hi honey.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we are kind of different when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to our health, you know, taking care of ourselves, and
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  Speaker 1: it has several times now I think, become just like
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  Speaker 1: a little rift between us. It usually goes a little
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  Speaker 1: something like this. I say, honey, hey, you know you
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  Speaker 1: should have that neck issue checked out maybe, or have
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  Speaker 1: you had a physical lately, or you know, prevention it's key,
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  Speaker 1: and you'll say, well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my neck actually feels better. I'm feeling fine,
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  Speaker 2: and who has the time to go to the doctor.
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  Speaker 2: It's too much?
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, as you can see, this is why I
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  Speaker 1: get a little irritated because I care about you and
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  Speaker 1: selfishly I want you around in my life for a
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  Speaker 1: long time, and it would be incredible if you would
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  Speaker 1: put a little effort into staying healthy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very important subject I get.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Hopefully our guest today can give me a little
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  Speaker 1: backup here. You know what, I'm actually used to this
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  Speaker 1: with the girls. If I say something sometimes they don't
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  Speaker 1: really hear it, but if someone else says the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: it's like a revelation. So, babe, get ready for your
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  Speaker 1: aha moment. Our guest today is a Board certified surgeon.
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  Speaker 1: A frequent guest on The Today Show. He is an
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  Speaker 1: associate professor at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine.
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  Speaker 1: He specializes in treatments of disorders affecting the large intestines
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  Speaker 1: and is highly skilled in a range of procedures, including colonoscopies.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, he's just a general wealth of health knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome doctor Cedric McFadden to the I Choose Me Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Doc, Hi, doctor, how are you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we are good. Believe me. We are so glad
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  Speaker 1: that you are here. Because this is like the age
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  Speaker 1: old question, why do men not go to the doctor
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  Speaker 1: as much as women?
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  Speaker 3: That's an age old question with an age old answer.
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  Speaker 3: The many for that. Let's face it, women are more
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  Speaker 3: used to going to the doctor. In fact, we kind
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  Speaker 3: of start women off as early as they're late teens,
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  Speaker 3: kind of get into that habit of going for a
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  Speaker 3: yearly and so it's embedded into the culture that women
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  Speaker 3: go to the doctor and men don't. When I was
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  Speaker 3: eighteen or when I was twenty, no one said you
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  Speaker 3: need to go for your yearly checkup. It's just not
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  Speaker 3: something that we're embedded to do. So I think that
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  Speaker 3: starts off the pattern. And I think because of the
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  Speaker 3: fact that women when they are child bearing age and
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  Speaker 3: when they have children, it's already you know, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to the doctor quite frequently during that time, and then
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  Speaker 3: afterwards it's built into coming back to the doctor for
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  Speaker 3: that So you know, we've we've created a space to
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  Speaker 3: where women are very welcomed and are expected to go
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  Speaker 3: to the doctor, and men we just don't put that
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  Speaker 3: expectation there there's no space. Do we do that?
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  Speaker 1: You're so right? Well, how do we change that?
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  Speaker 3: You Well, I think it starts by just making sure
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  Speaker 3: men to understand where they're vulnerable, right. It starts by
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  Speaker 3: understanding that we have to put these whether it's pre college,
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  Speaker 3: where it's your home from college, or whether it's just
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  Speaker 3: you know, you got a new job, you got to
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  Speaker 3: be checked out for you. We have to put some
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  Speaker 3: things in place that just allows men to know that
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  Speaker 3: this is the time to go. And by having conversations
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  Speaker 3: like we're having today and maybe changes that one person
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  Speaker 3: out of talk.
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  Speaker 1: Right, beib, Did anyone ever have a conversation with you
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  Speaker 1: as a young man, it's time to go to the doctor.
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  Speaker 1: You need to go get a check up. Did that
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  Speaker 1: ever happen for you?
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  Speaker 2: No? But it was you know, it was sort of like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the stereotypical my mom. If something anything happened
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  Speaker 2: to me, my mom would take me to you know,
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  Speaker 2: got to go to the emergency right now or urgent care.
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  Speaker 2: Urgent care was big. I feel like I had a
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  Speaker 2: Z pack every month if I was sick or something
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  Speaker 2: like that. There's like, oh you got sick, I'll just
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  Speaker 2: take a Z pack and that's.
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  Speaker 3: How men get to the doctor when they have emergency.
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  Speaker 2: But my dad, my father never went to the doctor,
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  Speaker 2: yeah at all. He still doesn't, and he's seventy six.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, nothing's wrong with me. What do I need?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's how we find out the problems. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, you have that fall off of the ladder,
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  Speaker 3: or we have that car accident, and then you get
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  Speaker 3: to the doctor, it's like, oh, we're gonna do an
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  Speaker 3: X ray. Oh, this is what we see, And then
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  Speaker 3: that often starts conversations about what happens next. So I
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  Speaker 3: like to say, in whatever way you get to see me,
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  Speaker 3: we'll take it unless use as a springboard to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that you're okay in other areas as well.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense. How would you suggest that women such
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  Speaker 1: as myself get their male counterpart to go to the
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  Speaker 1: doctor just for a general checkup, Like, I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure he's all good and that
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  Speaker 1: we're going to livel together in health and prospero.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get anyone in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go ahead, It's okay, get him
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  Speaker 1: in trouble, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so let's let's just first of all, say that
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  Speaker 3: it never serves well to preach, But I think we
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  Speaker 3: learn more by following the example. So if you are
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  Speaker 3: scheduling your yearly visit with your doctor, perhaps say you know,
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  Speaker 3: I scheduled my visit today, what days good for me
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  Speaker 3: to schedule yours?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great idea.
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  Speaker 3: It's very unassuming. It takes onus off of him for
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  Speaker 3: having to make the call, but it also gets it done.
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  Speaker 3: So that's an easy way to do it to where
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  Speaker 3: it's just scheduled and it's not saying you need to
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  Speaker 3: do it, say hey, I didn't mine, when do you
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  Speaker 3: want me to do yours? It keeps it open and
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  Speaker 3: it also makes him pick a day, and if it's
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  Speaker 3: ignored revisited, that's.
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  Speaker 1: A great idea. I mean that's what happens with us.
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  Speaker 1: I go keep myself checked up. I'm very proactive about
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  Speaker 1: my health and about prevention, and I'm always saying to him,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing? How can you make sure that
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  Speaker 1: you're healthy?
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  Speaker 3: M m?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know I go to the dentist regularly.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good start.
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  Speaker 2: That's a doctor that it's a doctor. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm just an example of many, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: I just turned forty three. You know, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I've had a checkup since I was thirty eight, well,
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  Speaker 2: definitely before COVID, so thirty eight, thirty nine, somewhere around there.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, just especially you know, prostate conversations are
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  Speaker 2: out and about as you know, I mean, I have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of friends that you know. Now it's it's
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  Speaker 2: more of an open discussion. You can talk about your
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  Speaker 2: health with your your male friends. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I hang out a lot of sixty year olds and
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  Speaker 2: so so.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of how are you feeling? Yeah, how
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  Speaker 1: s your health?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely, I mean it's definitely more open now
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  Speaker 2: for discussion than it probably was when I was definitely
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  Speaker 2: in my twenties or thirties even, you know, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of come to the forefront.
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  Speaker 1: That's great, that's such. That's that's that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Now now easier said than done, because I haven't done anything.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is great, go preach it. Yes, everybody
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  Speaker 2: should do this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's ask the doctor when should they start
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  Speaker 1: with their checkup? So tell us how they should go
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  Speaker 1: about doing this.
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  Speaker 3: So I think as early as early twenties, it's a
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  Speaker 3: good time to establish a relationship with the doctor. It's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like wanting to get to know someone before
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  Speaker 3: you get really involved in that relationship, before you perhaps
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  Speaker 3: get deeper into that relationship. It's helpful to establish relationship
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  Speaker 3: because you're going to need to visit a doctor for
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  Speaker 3: different things in life. If you need the antibiotic, it's
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  Speaker 3: helpful to have the relationship so you can pick up
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  Speaker 3: the phone and have a conversation about what do you
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  Speaker 3: need to be doing. So I think earlier then later,
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  Speaker 3: starting twenties, make sure you're up to date with any
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  Speaker 3: medications that you need, any immunizations. If you're traveling, you
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  Speaker 3: know yourself certain and it's also depending on your family history,
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  Speaker 3: you may be at risk for other problems, right, so
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  Speaker 3: you know establishing you know what was the health of
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  Speaker 3: my parents, You know that have heart problems over there
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  Speaker 3: are a history of cancers that may influence when you
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  Speaker 3: start testing and looking for problems, and so that's important
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  Speaker 3: to establish I think early on in your twenties. Now
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  Speaker 3: as you get older in your thirties and in your forties,
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  Speaker 3: those needs become a little bit more pronounced. Right you're
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  Speaker 3: likely gone at some point. If you have insurance, you
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  Speaker 3: have a job, they're going to probably say, hey, let's
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  Speaker 3: get some blood work, right, So you're gonna check for diabetes,
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna check your cholesterol levels, You're gonna be checking
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  Speaker 3: your blood pressure and perhaps even getting an EKG by
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  Speaker 3: your thirties and certainly by your forties. And so it's progression,
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  Speaker 3: but it starts, I think, by establishing that relationship so
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  Speaker 3: that that can help dictate which way the conversation goes
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  Speaker 3: when testing and screening's done. And so you don't wait
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  Speaker 3: until the car breaks down. You're repairing small things as
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  Speaker 3: it goes along. So it doesn't add up on.
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  Speaker 1: That makes that makes great sense, doesn't it. You got
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  Speaker 1: to repair your car, babe. It's rattling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a rattle. Yeah, I gotta I got
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  Speaker 2: no rattles right now, but I need to need to
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  Speaker 2: prevent the rattle.
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  Speaker 3: We want to prevent. You want to change before there
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  Speaker 3: is a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, get the all change the transmission looked at.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question. You said, find a
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  Speaker 1: doctor in your twenties. For me, personally, it's always been
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  Speaker 1: overwhelming to find the right doctor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough. It can be tough because now there
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  Speaker 3: are so many options now people have not even just locally,
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  Speaker 3: there are people that now because since COVID, we do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of virtual visits, mental health therapist, even just
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  Speaker 3: your family doctor. Many people do this as a form
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  Speaker 3: of practicing medicine like telehealth. Telehealth. Absolutely so I recommend
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  Speaker 3: number one, if you have insurance, to start with that
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  Speaker 3: because obviously there's a network of doctors. Within that group,
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  Speaker 3: it shuts down and kind of creates a small pot
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  Speaker 3: to choose from. After checking within your network, asking your
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  Speaker 3: family and friends you know who you go to, who
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  Speaker 3: do you like? They may know your preferences that can
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  Speaker 3: help say where this big good fit for you. And
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  Speaker 3: in the age of Google or any of the other
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  Speaker 3: web searches, you know reviews are out there and spend
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  Speaker 3: some time. Just like you look for a painter or
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  Speaker 3: look for a mechanic, sometimes looking through Google reviews or
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  Speaker 3: things like that can help you narrow down the search.
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  Speaker 3: And let's face it, the first doctor you can go
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  Speaker 3: to may not be the one that you have for
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  Speaker 3: the rest of your life. But I think starting that
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  Speaker 3: relationship allows you to identify those initial problems.
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  Speaker 2: I mean do we have a doctor?
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a doctor. I have a cardiologist, I
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  Speaker 1: have a guynecologist, or head hormones specialist, I have a
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  Speaker 1: brain doctorin yes, dermatologists, all the things, but not just
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  Speaker 1: at a general practitioner.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that general practitioners like I've referred to before.
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  Speaker 3: It's like the quarterback. They're going to help dictate all
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  Speaker 3: the other pieces. So if you need to have that
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  Speaker 3: heart doctor, if you need to have the orthopedis that
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  Speaker 3: family doctor, that intern is, or that primary care doc.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to help you navigate the space because you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned it can be very confusing. Do I need to
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  Speaker 3: see this kind Do I need to see that specialist? Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's the benefit of having that primary care team that's
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  Speaker 3: going to help you navigate that space that can be
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  Speaker 3: very complex.
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  Speaker 1: We need a quarterback, babe, we don't have a quarterback. No,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is not going well. How can we
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  Speaker 1: play if we don't have a quarterback? No, okay, we
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  Speaker 1: got to get a quarterback. That's number one. I want
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  Speaker 1: to ask you about what are the silent warning signs
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  Speaker 1: that men ignore.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's several of them. I'm going to start
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  Speaker 3: with the ones that really get to us, the signs
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  Speaker 3: and problems of your heart. One of the signs that
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  Speaker 3: men can sometimes ignore is just fatigue. You know, if
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  Speaker 3: you are finding that at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: or even before the end of the day, you're completely
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  Speaker 3: wiped out to where you don't have the energy to
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  Speaker 3: engage with your family the way you did before, that
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  Speaker 3: could be signed there's something going on, perhaps with your heart,
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  Speaker 3: perhaps with your thyroid, and so fatigue is one of
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  Speaker 3: those real signs that it's not just you're getting older
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  Speaker 3: or you've had a busy day. It's the consistency that
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  Speaker 3: you're noticing on more and more fatigued and tired, give
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  Speaker 3: a sign of a name you maybe you're losing play
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  Speaker 3: that you're not saying. So fatigue is definitely a sign
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  Speaker 3: that you cannot ignore. Another is an easy one of
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  Speaker 3: just you know, you used to be able to walk
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  Speaker 3: up and fight the steps, and now when you do that,
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  Speaker 3: you're completely with it. Your short of breath, you know,
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  Speaker 3: exhausting to where you can't catch your breath, and so
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  Speaker 3: that's the warning sign that something's not quite right. In
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  Speaker 3: my world, I'm a cold rectal surgeon, so one of
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  Speaker 3: the other side, or changes in your body right to
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  Speaker 3: narrow down on the cold regular space, changes in your stool,
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  Speaker 3: changes in your bathroom habits, whether it be stool or urination,
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  Speaker 3: Any change whether it be the frequency that you're going
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  Speaker 3: or the or the output that you're seeing, the consistency,
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  Speaker 3: the color, all those things, whether it be urine or
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  Speaker 3: your number two activities, that's a that's a flag and
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  Speaker 3: that's something that you shouldn't ignore. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Also a lot with gut help, right, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: being talked about more when we watched the documentary on
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  Speaker 2: Netflix that was really interesting about just about your gut
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  Speaker 2: in general, that we really don't think about how it works,
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  Speaker 2: how much you know, your food goes through and then
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  Speaker 2: it you know, captures the good stuff and then filters
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  Speaker 2: out the bat. I mean, I think gut health is
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  Speaker 2: very important.
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  Speaker 1: Especially for men.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing more likely talked about now more likely talked about.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we we we've seen a lot of talk
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  Speaker 3: about bloating, and we just always have just bloated. I
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  Speaker 3: think there's a whole TikTok craze about, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: bloated gut and people understanding now that it's okay to
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  Speaker 3: talk about it. It used to be an embarrassment. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm bloated of gas. It's so effected to who you
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  Speaker 3: are as people.
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  Speaker 2: Did you talked about it last night? As a matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, I believe what did we end up with you?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Because as you get older, sayings change, and especially for
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  Speaker 1: women as you go through menopause. I believe that you know,
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  Speaker 1: digestion is such a huge symptom of menopause. Like I've
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  Speaker 1: been having new challenges. Let's just say, as I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: a little bit older that I never had before.
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  Speaker 2: Always something.
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  Speaker 3: But you're not alone. You are absolutely not alone. That
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  Speaker 3: is very common. I hear so many of my patients
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  Speaker 3: come in even after we've talked about the problem they
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  Speaker 3: wanted to talk about. We'll parlay, if not even from
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  Speaker 3: the cell, the family members that are with them, about
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  Speaker 3: their gut about you know, I'm having more gas, or
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  Speaker 3: I can't eat food the same, or I can't process it,
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  Speaker 3: or my bathroom habits have changed. I mean, that's very common,
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  Speaker 3: and I think we all realized how common it is.
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  Speaker 3: It would be less taboo than it is right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when we first got married, got together,
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  Speaker 1: we keep things very private. When it comes to that department,
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  Speaker 1: the digestion. Let's just say I have.
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  Speaker 2: To go to a different restroom in the house.
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  Speaker 1: We have he has his routine. Everybody knows about it,
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  Speaker 1: even though you think you're hiding it from everyone.
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  Speaker 2: But very early, doctor, your routine is messed up. It's
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  Speaker 2: good to have a root. I like a routine. You know,
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  Speaker 2: most men, you don't want to break that routine. You
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  Speaker 2: break that routine gets broken somehow, then yeah, then we're
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  Speaker 2: talking to a doctor.
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  Speaker 3: And so everybody has a different routine. So as long
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  Speaker 3: as you don't compare your routine and expect the same
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  Speaker 3: as yours, then you may be okay. But when you
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  Speaker 3: notice it's changing that routine, then you got to pick
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  Speaker 3: up the phone and say there's a problem something.
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  Speaker 1: So we're looking at fatigue. We're looking for if your
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: winded just doing normal activities that you would normally be
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: able to do. We're looking at changes in your digestion,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: changes in your output absolutely and your routine. Changes in
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: your digestive routine. Those are all pretty silent warnings.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: And pains also, whether that be chest pain or shoulder
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: pain or back pain. Now, these are your bodies sitting
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: in you kind of red flags that there's something that's
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: not right. Pain should not be ignored, it should be explained,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and it should be understood.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I've been I've had a situation, you remember this where
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I was just doubled over in pain and I thought, oh,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: there's something terrible is happening to me. I'm having an
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: appendix thing or something ruptured inside the way. Yes, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it was just gas, like trapped gas under inside my organs.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so but again, just understanding that allows you
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to live a life. But if you have that pain
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: and we don't know why you're having that, good, we
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: don't know what's happening here, right, And that's when we
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: took the danger zone.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we want to talk a little bit about
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: colon cancer because it is the number one cause of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: cancer death for men under fifty. What do you have
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to say about that? Should men start looking at their
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: colon health at what age and how.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So recently that that age changed? Everyone always remember a
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: fifty as that magic age. But we were starting to
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: see more younger patients, younger people with colon cancers, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: not just colon cancers, but advanced colon cancers. So that
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: recommendation is now, at the age of forty five, you
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: should have your first screening for corectal cancer. Unless there's
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: a family history of these problems, then you're probably going
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: to start that testing, maybe even as early as ten
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: years before that family member started having their problems.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Interesting talking about these things as men. You know, I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: sitting here listening about the screening and stuff. I'm coming
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: up on forty five. I've got it, like the screening process.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: So even just hearing that as a man, you go, no, no, no,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you don't need to screen me. I don't even know
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: what that is. I don't even know how I'm gonna
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: get screened.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: What's a screen?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: How do you screen?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Oh? My god, it's not as hard as you think
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: it is. And there are many ways in which we screen.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, most people think about the colonoscopy. There's a
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: lot of videos and TV shows they made fun of
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the colon It's kind a bad rap. It's one of
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the easiest tests you'll ever do, one of the best
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: maps you'll ever have.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. Yeah, I've had a colonoscopy and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I did okay, Yeah, see, I had I had something
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: in my head that when I was little, I had
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to get you know, I had to drink the chalk,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to put a camera down to look at my stomach, YadA, YadA, YadA,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and like even like thinking about a screening for colon
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, that.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a good time to you.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: And then but here's the other thing. If if you
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: are an average risk, meaning you don't have family history
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: of colon problems, where you're not having symptoms, et cetera,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: there are other tests that may be allowed. I mean,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you've seen the camercials. Now for the poop in the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: box test.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Wait what go back?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: What?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Wait?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Poop in the box?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: You just take a little box, a little thing you
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: put in your toilet, You take a specimen and you
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: send it to the company and they for colon cancer.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: And so there is no colonoscopy. And again that's for
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: persons who are average risks, who don't have symptoms that
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you can poop in the box.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm going to make you poop in
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the box later.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Ben, you know, yeah, well not later, so tomorrow morning,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: keep it on the routine.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: He actually he actually may want the colonoscopy.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, now that we hyped it up so much.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually have new new tests coming out now
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: where there are I think we're going to get to
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the point where screening is like a blood test, like
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you check for your cholesterol. That a part of that
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: screening could become, you know, just checking your blood to
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: see whether or not you are having signs or potential
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: changes that could indicate you're r at risk. And so
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I think there are lots of options, but it starts
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: by having that conversation with idocrat, like I don't want
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: to have the colonoscar or I don't want to do
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the prep, but you may not have to. Maybe other
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: things we can do. Let's just talk about it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, So you're we're talking about colonoscopy, We're talking about
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: colon and pooping in boxes. Is all very very good information.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Stuff.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I want to know. Is the prostate check different than
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the poop in the box or coolonoscopy?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: So the prostate check is a little different now. Most
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: people traditionally think that the finger in the bottom filling
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: for the prostate, right, and it's a small glen, it's
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: at the base of the bladder. But here's the key
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: screening for prostate cancer doesn't necessarily involve the finger in
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: the bottom, so many people don't go to get the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: exam because they don't want to have to finger in
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: the bottom. If you're getting screened prostate cancer, recommendations from
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the American Neurological Association is a blood test ASA.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: No coffee, so no, no, turn your head and cough anymore.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no no, that's not necessary to look for
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: prostate cancer. So if that's holding.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You back, I bet that's holding a lot of people back.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And with all these cancers, the sooner we find it,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the better you are, the better the outcomes are. So
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: you know, it just starts by having that conversation with
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: you doctor.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: That's the key, though, right, don't you think, doctor Rufaden.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: It's it's prevention. It's knowledge and prevention because there's so
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: much we can do now with modern medicine.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: And there's so much information out there, and a lot
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: of information it is good. A lot of information is good,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: whether it be from social media or whether it be
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: from the you know, well known sites over the Internet.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: But a lot of information is not good, and so
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: it's important to identify kind of the good sites the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: reliables for evidence based or the sites that you know
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: that you can take to the bank, as opposed to
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: just one person's experience that then becomes dogma.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is good information right here, people
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: that we're giving you take key. Yes, yes, I feel
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: so lucky to have you here. This is a crazy subject.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Can we talk about a rectile dysfunction?
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: It's not a crazy subject.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I guess you're saying, we got to talk about it, right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: We got to.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Talk about it because you know, let's face it, by
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the time men are in their fifties, you know that
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: percentage maybe up to fifty percent of manual experience some
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: form of rectile dysfunction. And I think the misnomer is
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: that it's immediately just the problem with the penis. And
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: in reality, when we have a rectilis function, one of
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: the first things that your doctor should be looking at
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: is what else is happening with your body? Right? Is
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: this a sign of having a problem with your heart? Right?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: We need blood flow to perform, but if there's an
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: issue with blood getting to where it needs to perform,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: that may be the problem that we need to identify
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and address. Wow.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I never thought there.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Are signs of symptoms, take the focus I think from
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: that area to what's happening with your body? What else
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: is going on that can be consured. But it's quite common,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't always mean that it's you know, a
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: terminal event.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, that's good. I like that message. What
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: about a lot of conversations about receiving hairlines? Is there
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: anything you can do from a medical standpoint, or maybe
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: it's a supplementation or diet to sort of help with that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Well, the first thing to do is to recognize it early.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Many of the treatment options that are available, they will
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: tell you the results may be better if initiated early
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: in the process. So I mean, I shave mind. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: this is exactly that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Looking nice by the way, but if you.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Start from this and wanted to get where he is,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: we're going to have some challenge, right, So you have
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: to when you initially see that either there is balding
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: on the crown or there is thinning up the hair
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: or receiving hairline, that's the time there to initiate some
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: form of treatment, and there are many. There's some over
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the counter options that you can do that don't require
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: a prescription that sometimes take six to twelve months to
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: see results, and it can be effective at allowing here
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to regrow and perhaps become more full. And then there
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: are prescriptions and there are procedures that people can do,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: whether it be implants, whether it be you know, a
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: whole list of things that dermatologists and other specialists can
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: help you with. But the key here is to identify
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it early and to act on it early. But know
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that it's very common obviously is you get older, it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: gonna happen to most men and women by the fact
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: that women will also have some degree of thinning as
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: they get older, and so it's a part of life.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: But as we choose ourselves, like you're the title of
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the podcast, it's one of those things that we're going
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: to say, this is important to me, Let me seek
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and let me know identify options that can help.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I love that. Tell him that what you always say
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: about your.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Hair, Oh, like why I think I have good hair? Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: because you know, yeah, I have big hips so and
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I was blessed with a high crack so and you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to counterbalance that I got good hair.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: So he thinks it's one or the other, Like, yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: he got the big hips. So he's gonna have good hair.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, then I have a high crack. They
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: used to call me high crack in baseball in college.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I so you know that that's my theory.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Where did this come from?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: This is his theory.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I have a theory that you can't have it all.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: You can't have it all. You just can't have it all.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So you know, Brad Pitt's got something wrong with him.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: We just don't know, like you know. So you know,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: so I've got some bigger hips down there, and I've
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: had you know, I can't you know, I could never
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: sag in high school.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: But you have good hair.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But I have decent hair. Yeah yeah, so I have
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: decent I was blessed with decent hair. Also my grandfather.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I think it comes from your grandfather, your mother grandfather's side.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's a myth, isn't it?
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Is that a myth?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I've certainly heard that. I know that genetically,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: if if your father has experienced part of baldness, you
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: are I think one number I saw it was, you know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: five to six times more likely to have that as well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: So there is a genetic link to it in some way.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: But hey, if you're blessed, you know, we take blessings
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: of all shapes.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm maybe I'm gonna go maybe I'm going to
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: go bald.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: That's okay.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Ill, my dad is definitely receding victim.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay. I would ask, what is one
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: piece of advice that all men should take away from
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: this conversation today.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So I think the biggest piece that I want men
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: to take about take away from this conversation is that
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I want them to understand the importance of just talking
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: about their problems, talking about not only just the physical problems.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about mental challenges that we can have.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: It's often one of the things that men suppress and
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: don't share as much. But being open to talk about problems.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And that's why I like establishing relationship with a doctor
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: because to me, that is just the great foundation that
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: helps us sustain our lives and have a really longevity,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: have longevity with our lives. And so just talking about
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: it with the doctor that you're comfortable with that you
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: can talk about your what your hip to hear ratio
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: or you're pooping in the bogs, or your mental health
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: job having those types of conversations early and throughout your
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: life can really help you have so much fulfillment data.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I think the mental health, I think that's just huge,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: yeah right now, especially with men, especially with older men.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Like I said, you know, I spend a lot of
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you know a lot of time with you know, guys
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: in their fifties and sixties, like off of these these people,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and you know, to see even those men talk about
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: mental health and just discuss it is it's wonderful to
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: see and just how are you feeling, how are you doing?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: How you really feeling?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: How are you really feeling? And it's more of like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: you know, not great today, and then that conversation goes further,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: you know, So it's that's really nice to see. And
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: it's you know, as you said by example.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: But they're also not suffering in silence. Yeah, it's it's
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: it's it's a community that allows them to not feel
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: alone and help them feel connected so that they can
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: be well.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: And also with even on the you know, physical side too,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of men, you know, if something's hurting them,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: they'll just prolong it, not say anything, probably not to
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: tell their spouse because if if I tell you Oh,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I've got something wrong with me. What are you going
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: to do? Just kind of hammer it, hammer it, hammer it?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: So what's just not say anything at all? So I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: think that that is another hurdle.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Wait what do you mean by hammer? Hammer?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Hammer?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm confused? What do you like if you tell
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: me something's wrong with you?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm like, oh, well this is hurting me.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You're going to be like, well you need to get
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: that checked out. Well, no, it's not that serious.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: So then you're still going nagging.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Not no, And I didn't mean it like that, but
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you're going to.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I just want to help the people that are hearing this,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: because this is not just a conversation that you and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I would have.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Right, I think that across the landscape of you know,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: in a relationship, and you know you're very concerned about
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: me if something's.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Hurting you, I'm sure you to go be proactive.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: To absolutely, But sometimes I'm just telling you I don't
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: really need to go or I don't want to go.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: But I also think that that's that's what this conversation
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: is about.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: So yeah, So so I think in that case, an
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: option could be maybe making a mental note of that complaint,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: maybe circling back around, maybe not in that moment, just listening, okay,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: my back a sorry. Maybe it's a week later you say, hey,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: are you having more back pain? In very just sort
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: of conversational manner following up on whatever that complaint was,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: because there are certain issues that you'll have just for
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: a day. Some of you have for a few days.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: But if something's experienced for a week or two months,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: six months, then we know we're dealing with something more serious.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So maybe just coming back around to it to say, no,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you mentioned last week your backwards sty you still have
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: any problemts with your back, and just leaving it open.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think that men should take supplements or vitamins
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: or think about their diets.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: That's a good one. A daily vitamin, is that?
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So I think diet and what we put in
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: our bodies super important, right It connects our gut health
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: and all the things that we've talked about. I think
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: if our diets are are balanced, if what we're eating
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: is I don't think we have to focus as much
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: on the supplements right now. There are many examples of
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: medical conditions that require supplements. Right if you've had certain
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: surgical procedures. We have other medical issues, they may say,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: you know, you need to have the B twelve, you
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: need to have the vitamin D, et cetera. So your
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: medical history may dictate what you need. But for the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: average risk person, the average person, I think just a
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: balanced diet, eating the colors of the rainbow, eating a
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: balance of you know, your fruit, your veggies, all of
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: those things, more vegetables than meat. You know, those things
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: will allow you to get those nutrients, those vitamins in
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: them without having to spend a whole lot on extra supplements.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: The times they're necessary and useful, but I think we
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: tend to rely on them more than just eating well.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: On that, I have a question about that. I remember
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of people I still do it, the interminute fasting.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I tried
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: it for a while and I actually liked it, and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I'm still kind of on this, Like I don't really
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: eat between like eleven, or I eat from eleven to seven,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and I don't really try to eat at night.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: You're on a camera right now and microphone, so I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: just want you to know.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: That I'm lying. He's like, but definitely, I like I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: try I try to eat from eleven to seven. I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: try to keep it in that range and try to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: eat sensibly. But is is that another kind of wisetail
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: with the fasting or.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Fasting has many benefits. I think to rely on it though, however,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: as the maintenance plan is probably not I think realistic
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: in the long term. You know, if you're people use
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: fasting for seasons or periods for for you know, health,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: but to rely on it for every single day for
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: the rest of your life may not be practical because
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: as you travel, as you go and there's gonna be
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: times you're going to need to you're a different time
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: zone and you're eating. You have to have that flexibility
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: to know that it may be a part of what
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: you do. I mean, I know several people that will,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: you know, several times a year they'll do a fast
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: for either spiritual reasons or for just the mental component
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: of it. And so it may be a part of
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: your routine, but now it may be it's not the
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: basis of your routine. That becomes just sort of a
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: branch of what you do to maintain your health.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: May I ask you some of our listeners questions, Yes, okay, great,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Mackenzick would like to know what would you suggest to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: counteract the effects of falling testosterone levels in older men?
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: So there are you know, I always start with talking
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: with your doctor to see kind of what are the
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: other variables and factors with your health, right, that's the
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: first thing we should establish. And there are several medications
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: that can be provided, prescription medication. I know you can
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: find a lot of these commercials either in you know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: on the internet or on television about taking these testastrum supplements.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Those may not be regulated by the FDA. So asking
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: your doctor about are there prescriptions and are they're balancing
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: or are they checking my labs to make sure I'm
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: responding appropriately, because if they're checking blood work, they should
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: see changes. Are we getting the right dose in the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: right you know way? Do I need an injection? Do
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I need a pill? Do I need a crane? All
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: of those things and in what ways is that low
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: testosterrum influencing my life? Am I fatigued? Do not have
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: the stamina in the gym or at home? I mean,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: all of those things will influence Am I on the
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: right does and am getting in the right way with
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: the right frequency.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of conversation around menopause right now, thank goodness,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and a lot of talk about estrogen and adding estrogen supplementation.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It's quite a controversial subject. Is it kind of the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: same thing for testosterone for men?
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Low T, Yeah, low T.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: It doesn't get the same attention. I've seen several advertisements
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: on television regarding low T. Now we're having the conversation more.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: But it is equally important. It is equally important because
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: it can influence, just like menopause, so many aspects of
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: your life that aren't just what you think it's about.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: It's about the way you feel, the way your energy is,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the way you're processing throughout the day mentally. So you're right,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: it absolutely is just as important.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And the best way to find out if you have
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: low testosterone is a blood test.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: It's a blood test, right so your doctor kid can
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: can order and they can follow it to see if
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: your body is responding to the administration of whatever supplements
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: they may be providing for you.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Very interesting, Okay, you want to read this one.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. At MPa seven eight one one.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: How long should I let pass between checkups?
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Everybody has a different frequency. There's some of my patients
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: that I want to see them every three months. There's
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: something I need to see yearly for just all comers
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: average risk at least every year or two, and depending
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: on what the problems may may not be, that frequency
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: may need to be increased. So you may need to
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: see them once a year or twice a year, but
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: at least on average every year or two. You need
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: to be checking in for just a physical exam, blood work,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: looking for a low blood counts, looking for your cholesterol numbers,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: may be checking your heart the things that you're not
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: going to perhaps see right away, checking your thyro levels
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: and making sure you're up to date with all the
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: screenings where they we prostate lung cancer, all those types
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: of things, making sure you're up to date with those.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, someone would like to know Ray Ruez three three eight,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: would like to know what is better sauna or steam
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: room and are there benefits to either.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so there are some published reports about how sitting
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: in a sauna can help lower blood pressure, how obviously
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: it can help with the muscular skeletal system, but the
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: benefits are widely researched and published. I think there's probably
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: a preference of which you prefer whether you want to
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: sit in moisture or do you want to sit in
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: dry heat and create that moisture. I think after a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: workout there's definitely some you know, relaxation of just having
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: them lifted or run and just having a moment to
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: just decompress. But there are some help benefits that are
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: published with infrared saunas. But I think it's probably a
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: preference of which you prefer of sitting in sort of
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the steam versus singing dry heat.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I have a side question on that, doctor, I've been
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: looking into cold plunges. Do you have any knowledge on that?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I mean I've heard.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Everything everybody's talking about the cold.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the circulatory system, you know, the benefits inflammation
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: cox Yeah, because I've for me personally, I've had, you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: some neck stiffness in the next and you know, I
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: think it was a lot of stress and then hurting myself.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: But what do you think about I heard someone told
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: me and then I looked them up like a cold
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: plunge with do you write what what are your thoughts?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I mean you I saw what was that video?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Was that Lebron dump them? Yeah? Yeah? And you can
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: find cryo therapy facilities popping up everywhere everywhere. I think
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: it can be a part of the equation. As always,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I always say talk with your doctor before you make
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: any decision like that. But I don't think that done
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: in you know, a frequency of one time a week,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: one time a month, whatever that frequency may be, that
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: you're in any danger. But the published report talk about
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: the release of toxins and getting rid of the oxidative
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: stresses in your body. I don't think it's going to
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: be the cure all to all the problems. But I
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: also don't think it's going to really hurt, right facilitate
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: its use to actually use it.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm telling you right now.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to go in cold water. It's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: just not I did that was for show. I had
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to do that, But I don't think I'll ever do
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that again.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I was just gonna fill the baths up up with
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: some ice.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of ice. Yeah, give it a shot.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: How about you ask him this one.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is a good one. Doc at Diamond Dot photog,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: how do we get our wives to let us play
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: more golf for our mental health without guilt?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I think he is at diamond photo.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, this is a great question. A
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: lot of men want to know. I know I'm one
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: of them.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Well, and so let's substitute golf for any activity that
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: you enjoy, that you provide that provides you some mental benefit.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: We lead stressful lives and we have to have outlets
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: to release that stress, to recenter, and also to have
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: time with friends. That's very important. And the balance comes
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and I'm sure my wife's listening to this, it's going
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: to shake her head. The balance comes because you have
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to I'm just gonna say he didn't say that out loud,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: but I didn't know. The balance comes is you have
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: to take care of all of it, right, So you
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: have to have that balance with your friends and be
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: able to play golf or run or swim and whatever
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: your activity. But also you have to come back around
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: to your partner and be able to balance that with
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: their time. And so I think if you can manage
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: you know, we've spent our date night Friday night. I
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: said date night Friday or your Wednesday or whatever that
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: time is, and now I need the time to have
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: with my friends or to realize it's a part of
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: your health, right, you have to fill your tank and
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: you have to be able to have that friendship which
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: is super important for your own mental health. Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like that answer?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Did you hear that answer?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I heard them. I heard them loud and clear. You
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: got to fill your tank.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Did you both hear the same thing or different things?
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Did you hear the balance?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing with golf, and I think for a
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: lot of men, I think it checks a lot of
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: boxes and just like a four and a half five
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: hour time frame and then you're done. You check your
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: social box, you check your activity, you check being in
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: nature for your man, and you know, and then there's
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: some stigmas around it where you know, people are drinking
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: too much in excess and screwing around. But yeah, in
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: all those boxes get checked with just one simple activity
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: because you're right, you go out, you you know the
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: social aspect that you are with friends, you are talking
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: about a game, you're in nature. So yeah, I thought
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: that was a great answer.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Doctor.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Now, if you're on a golf team, you need a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: little bit more, you know, time to practice and kind
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: of you know.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: He's a professional golfer. I don't know if you know.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not professional, but I'm on a team.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Where we're going to work on a balance.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that just brings me to my last question
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: here from Jeordie Stevens ninety four. Mental health super important.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Let's get men talking about it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get men. Men don't always show the same
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: signs that they are having challenges for the mental health
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and women. They may not cry, but they may appear
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: more angry. They may not lash out, they may become
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: more reserved or withdrawn, and so it's balance and understanding
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: the signs, and they may not even be aware of
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: the signs. As you get older, as life changes, you react,
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: and whether it be as you get closer to retirement,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: or as your kids go off to college, or as
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: wherever those things are, those things in your life can
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: affect your mental health. So it's first letting men know
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: that you are not alone, that creating a support system
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: that can help get them through these moments, and then
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: seeking professional help. If these are spilling over into your
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: life where you're not sleeping well, you're not performing well
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: at work, you're lashing out at the family, all of
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: these things can indicate that we need to seek more
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: help and and and and not suffering silence, not suffering science.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I think that's that's super important that men know that
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: they have to support not only their families, but their doctors,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: mental health specialists especially.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just so beautiful that the stigma
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: is lessening now and that people are talking about it
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: with each other, just having the conversations about how are
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: you feeling and are you happy or are you feeling
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: good about things?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I think those are just important conversations that we don't
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: often have.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: So sometimes it gets the way men that are brought
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: up not show your emotion, be.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Tough men, don't cry, Yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Don't cry. And in reality we create a culture where
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: men are suffering in silence and we are tear in
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: that away one conversation like this at a time. So
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: so definitely thank you for bringing that one up.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh, thank you so much for giving
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: us your time and answering all of our silly questions
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and our serious.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Questions, great questions.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you so much.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor, Thank you for the opportunity.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Bye.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Doctor mcvatt, Bye doctor bye.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: He was a delight, he was great.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I love doctor mcvadden.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I want to hang out with him, Well do you.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I would love to go to South Carolina.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Maybe you could go golfing with him.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you golfer.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: So, honey, how did all that land for you?
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I thought it was great. You know, I do need
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to take my health a little bit more seriously. I
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: do need to be proactive preventative. We don't have a doctor.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: We have to find a doctor. And that's another thing.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: It's just taking time to better yourself, to get ahead
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: of stuff. You know, I'm in my forties now. I
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: didn't really need to think about that in my thirties,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: or I mean, I.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Guess I should have.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's all good stuff that we need to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: break that stereotype for the mail, you know.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that is great. You heard his
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: messaging and it kind of resonated with you about it
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that it's important for you even you need to choose
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: yourself sometimes.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I love the colon Ascoby talk. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: mean that got me fun stuff.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Got you excited?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeap?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I'm sorry. I know it's rough being a man, isn't.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: It so hard?
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Well, mission accomplished, I guess right. Thank you, honey for
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: coming on the pod and being so open to these conversations.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: My pleasure.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Love you, I love you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Again. A big thank you to doctor McFadden joining us today.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I think that both Dave and I learned a lot,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and I hope you did too. In honor of Men's
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Health Month, as we continue to choose ourselves weekly here
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: on our podcast, I want you to mentally check in
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: with your body. And I don't care what gender you are,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: may and woman, whatever you are, this is for all
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: of us. Have you been ignoring a persistent ache or pain.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Have you been putting off a checkup appointment, Well, this
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: is your friendly reminder to make sure you choose to
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: listen and love your body, which means make sure it's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: operating in top shape. I love you and I want
• 49:45
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• 49:49
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