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Anyone, Anywhere, Anytime! Ten Humanoid Encounters · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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  Speaker 1: today's episode Anyone Anywhere, Anytime ten Humanoid Encounters. You can
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  Speaker 1: probably guess why I gave this episode that name. It's
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  Speaker 1: because a UFO encounter can occur to anyone, anywhere, at
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  Speaker 1: any time when you least expect it. These cases are
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  Speaker 1: occurring to all kinds of people from all over the world,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, today I've chosen cases from a wide
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  Speaker 1: variety of locations, including Canada, a couple from the United States,
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  Speaker 1: one from Brazil, one from Tasmania, but also Denmark, France, Italy, Sweden,
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  Speaker 1: and Norway. So yeah, many different locations. And of course
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  Speaker 1: these cases occur way back into history. The earliest ones
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  Speaker 1: I'm covering today are in the nineteen fifties, but all
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  Speaker 1: the way up through the two thousands do involve a
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  Speaker 1: wide variety of humanoids. As we often see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of evidence, people who don't believe in UFOs or human
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  Speaker 1: encounters have simply not done their homework. Because these cases
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  Speaker 1: in just this episode today include not only multiply witness testimony,
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  Speaker 1: but of course all the kinds of evidence. We normally
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  Speaker 1: see radar returns, photographic evidence, landing traces, electromagnetic disturbances, physiological effects,
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  Speaker 1: animal reactions, and more. But it's really I think the
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  Speaker 1: huge number of cases that provides the best evidence that
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  Speaker 1: something really profound is going on here. And I've said
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  Speaker 1: it before, but it's worth saying again. Each case adds
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  Speaker 1: to our knowledge of what's going on here. That's why
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  Speaker 1: and do this research. So let's just get started. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of cases to cover, and some are really compelling.
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  Speaker 1: One I want to talk about I call the little
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  Speaker 1: Man in the UFO. This case occurred in December of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty one in Red Springs, but it turns out
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  Speaker 1: it's not just one event. I set out to investigate
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  Speaker 1: one event, but I found another that was definitely connected
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  Speaker 1: to it, and then another that was connected to that,
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  Speaker 1: and it ended up being a whole series of events
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  Speaker 1: in North Carolina, Red Springs and Lumberton, North Carolina. So
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  Speaker 1: whow I think you'll find this one really amazing? I
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  Speaker 1: know I did. It was around dusk one evening in
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  Speaker 1: December of nineteen fifty one when Sam Coley's twelve year
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  Speaker 1: old son James called out to his father and seventeen
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  Speaker 1: year old sister Mabel to alert them of a flying
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  Speaker 1: saucer hovering right outside their home in Red Springs, North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: James actually saw it come diving down and then it
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  Speaker 1: suddenly stopped right above the ground. Everyone came out and
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  Speaker 1: could see that this object was shaped like two saucers
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  Speaker 1: placed rim to rim, with a cabin like bulge in
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  Speaker 1: the center, and glowing portholes around the dome. The outer
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  Speaker 1: rim seemed to be rotating. This object hovered about nine
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  Speaker 1: hundred feet away and only six feet off the ground,
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  Speaker 1: was very quiet, emitting only a soft purring noise. But
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  Speaker 1: most amazing was that inside the craft, the Kohley family
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  Speaker 1: could see a humanoid figure. They watched it for almost
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes when suddenly the craft took off quote like
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  Speaker 1: a bolt of lightning, and faster than the naked eye
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  Speaker 1: could follow.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The father, Sam was a forty nine year old mechanic.
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  Speaker 1: He did not want to make an official report of this,
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  Speaker 1: but his daughter convinced him to call the police, which
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  Speaker 1: he did so. The Red Springs police chief contacted Civil
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  Speaker 1: Defense director Eldred zed Jones, and they came to the
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  Speaker 1: Koli's residence and interviewed all three witnesses separately. Policast chief
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  Speaker 1: had been skeptical, but following this interview, reportedly he said
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  Speaker 1: that he was convinced that something very unusual had happened
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  Speaker 1: because all of the eyewitness testimonies matched. But that's not
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  Speaker 1: the whole story. What wasn't in most of the reports
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  Speaker 1: in this case, but was later revealed by Jane Ware,
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  Speaker 1: the daughter of the State Civil Defense Director Eldred Z. Jones.
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  Speaker 1: She reported in a presentation from Muffon that she herself
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  Speaker 1: accompanied her father and the police chief to the Colis
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  Speaker 1: home and per Jane, they arrived shortly after this encounter occurred,
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  Speaker 1: and where this saucer had hovered about six feet above
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  Speaker 1: the ground, they did find a burn mark in the
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  Speaker 1: soil and vegetation, but it was more than this, because,
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  Speaker 1: to the shock of everyone present, the UFO actually returned
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  Speaker 1: and was observed by everyone there, Eldred Jones, Jane, herself,
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  Speaker 1: Sam Coley, his wife Viola, and their two children, and
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  Speaker 1: of course the police chief and another officer. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: object was described by Jane to be about thirty feet
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  Speaker 1: in diameter, glowing a red orange color which became dull
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  Speaker 1: and bright as it moved close to the farmhouse. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: at its closest approach, the witnesses could all smell in
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  Speaker 1: ozone like odor, similar to burned electric wiring. They also
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  Speaker 1: heard a droning sound which get this made their heads
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  Speaker 1: and internal organs seemed to vibrate, and this went on
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  Speaker 1: for quite some time, about five or ten minutes before
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  Speaker 1: this craft left. Now there was more to this. Jane's
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  Speaker 1: presentation from muff On was called CE two close Encolors
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  Speaker 1: of the second kind Psychological and Physiological Aftermath, because they
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  Speaker 1: suffered some physical symptoms from this. Jane said that in
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  Speaker 1: addition to the smells and vibrating feelings following this encounter,
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  Speaker 1: she suffered from some prominent physiological effects that included burns
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  Speaker 1: on her skin, scars, headaches, nausea, and ie irritation. Now
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  Speaker 1: I thought that this was the end of that case,
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  Speaker 1: but it really wasn't, because perhaps related to this incident
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  Speaker 1: was another which occurred not too far away, about twenty
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  Speaker 1: miles away in Lumberton, North Carolina, and eight months later,
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  Speaker 1: on August sixth, nineteen fifty two, James J. Allen, age
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  Speaker 1: fifty one, reported his encounter with a UFO and humanoid,
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  Speaker 1: he said. It was around nine pm and James was
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  Speaker 1: standing outside his home in West Lumberton when this roundish
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  Speaker 1: oval shaped object dropped from the sky very nearly hit
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  Speaker 1: the high tension, struck his chimney, he said, and then
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  Speaker 1: landed roughly on the ground. According to James and I quote,
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  Speaker 1: it was six feet high and eight feet long and
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  Speaker 1: was lighted on the inside. It was orange in color
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  Speaker 1: like it was in the air. The lights went out
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  Speaker 1: when I walked toward it and got within ten feet
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  Speaker 1: of it. So as he approached this object, James was
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  Speaker 1: amazed to see a little humanoid less than three feet
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  Speaker 1: tall standing next to it. As James says, there appeared
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  Speaker 1: to be a small man about thirty inches high standing
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  Speaker 1: beside the object. When I asked if it was hurt,
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  Speaker 1: it went away with a whiff. Then it made a
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  Speaker 1: loud noise like air whistling, and was gone. According to
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  Speaker 1: one of the reports on this case, this was basically
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  Speaker 1: a human looking figure. I'm not so sure about that.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't verify it at any rate. James was so
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  Speaker 1: shocked by this encounter he went to his back door,
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  Speaker 1: he says, and sat down for two hours, just waiting
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  Speaker 1: to see if this object would return, which it didn't,
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  Speaker 1: But he later reported to local newspapers who wrote up
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  Speaker 1: an article and confirmed that there was in fact some
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  Speaker 1: landing traces. The grass where James said this object had
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  Speaker 1: landed was depressed as if some heavy object had landed there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there was some skepticism about his report, but in corroboration
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  Speaker 1: of it, not only is the Coli'S case, but many
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  Speaker 1: cases that happened afterwards in Lumberton. Apparently there's something about Lumberton,
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina that is very attractive to UFOs, because over
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  Speaker 1: the years UFOs and occupants continued to be regularly sighted.
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  Speaker 1: There was only twenty one days after James Allen's sighting
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  Speaker 1: that five independent witnesses reported seeing a UFO. One of
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  Speaker 1: them was Gabriel Duroche, who was walking home when he
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  Speaker 1: saw a glowing blue white object which he said was
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  Speaker 1: about thirty feet wide and ten feet thick, was hovering
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  Speaker 1: above a field about thirty feet away. He could see blue, yellow,
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  Speaker 1: and red sparks coming up from beneath it as this
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  Speaker 1: object started to spin and rise vertically upwards and eventully
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  Speaker 1: disappeared into the sky. Now, later an inspection of the
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  Speaker 1: spot did reveal a depression in the soil. On October
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  Speaker 1: thirty first, nineteen fifty seven, four men contacted the local
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  Speaker 1: newspaper to report their sighting of a strange quote big
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  Speaker 1: ball of fire. Frightened, they fled the scene. The report
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  Speaker 1: was not taken seriously. Not sure why these were four
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  Speaker 1: black men. This was nineteen fifty seven, but the report
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  Speaker 1: was discounted until shortly later when another report came in.
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  Speaker 1: Barbara Jean Stokes was driving near her home again in
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  Speaker 1: Lumberton when she saw what appeared to be the body
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  Speaker 1: of a man lying beside the road, about a block
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  Speaker 1: from the Elizabethtown Highway. Naturally, this shocked her. She turned
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  Speaker 1: her car around, raced back home and got her husband, Paul,
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  Speaker 1: and their neighbors, the Sinclairs. This was around eight pm
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  Speaker 1: when they returned to the scene and saw that this
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  Speaker 1: body was now gone, but looking up, they all saw
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  Speaker 1: a huge, red glowing object hovering right above the road.
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  Speaker 1: Was described as being about two hundred feet long, hovering
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  Speaker 1: two hundred feet in the air, and was stationary at first,
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  Speaker 1: but suddenly rose straight up very quickly out of sight,
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  Speaker 1: flaring up, at which point the car stalled so there
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  Speaker 1: appears to be a connection here. Once the subject was gone,
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  Speaker 1: the car could be restarted, and they quickly fled the scene.
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  Speaker 1: But strange events in Lumberton suddenly escalated some years later,
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  Speaker 1: beginning with another strange humanoid report. It was on December
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  Speaker 1: twenty ninth, nineteen seventy four, when multiple reports came in
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  Speaker 1: around ten pm that evening of a UFO with bright
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  Speaker 1: colored lights. Then one family of four called the police
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  Speaker 1: saying that they had actually seen a strange humanoid figure
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  Speaker 1: wearing a quote, silver and black suit with a sort
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  Speaker 1: of helmet. This was in the Forest Acres area near
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  Speaker 1: Forest Road and Barker ten Mile Road. The family said
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  Speaker 1: that this figure jumped into the bushes and disappeared. Four
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  Speaker 1: police were sent to investigate, but they didn't find anything.
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  Speaker 1: Now around this time, multiple residents living on McLeod Street
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  Speaker 1: said that they were hearing strange wailing noises. Others said
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  Speaker 1: that they heard strange voices. In fact, one resident said,
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  Speaker 1: and I quote the voices were loud and distinct, but
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  Speaker 1: I could not understand their vocabulary. It certainly wasn't in
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  Speaker 1: the English language. I can tell you that so very strange.
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  Speaker 1: One lady said that She was in the den of
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  Speaker 1: her home on mc lean Street when she saw a
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  Speaker 1: figure dash out of their yard and into the woods. Frightened,
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  Speaker 1: she made her husband go out to investigate with a flashlight.
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  Speaker 1: Now he didn't see the figure, but he did find something.
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  Speaker 1: He was really shocked and surprised to see a set
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  Speaker 1: of fence posts pulled right out of the ground, apparently
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  Speaker 1: by brute force. They did not know who did that
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  Speaker 1: or why, And this was just the beginning of what
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  Speaker 1: would become an incredibly intense wave of sightings in this area.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a few months later, really, from April
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  Speaker 1: third to April ninth, nineteen seventy five, that more than
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  Speaker 1: sixty six zero witnesses, mostly police officers, reported seeing being
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  Speaker 1: silent V shaped objects. These objects would hover, swoop over
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  Speaker 1: their cruisers, move at sharp angles with quick accelerations, right
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  Speaker 1: over Lumberton and the surrounding areas. And in fact, there
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  Speaker 1: were at least fifty seven reported events, including some apparent landings.
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  Speaker 1: Needless to say, this activity did generate national headlines really
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  Speaker 1: electrified researchers. Researchers like E. Lee Spiegel, Jenny Zidman, Ted Phillips,
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  Speaker 1: and others including J. Allen Heinik investigated these many reports,
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  Speaker 1: eventually compiling them in a fifty nine page booklet called
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  Speaker 1: the Lumberton Report, which was published by the Center for
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  Speaker 1: UFO Studies. And according to the main investigator, E Lee
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  Speaker 1: Spiegel and I quote, the consistent thing we find in
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  Speaker 1: UFO reports, including Lumberton's, is that none of these objects
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  Speaker 1: make any kind of sound. We're talking about reliable law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement officials who say that these things have gone directly
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  Speaker 1: over their cars fifty to one hundred feet away. When
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  Speaker 1: you don't hear something that does incredible maneuvers, makes ninety
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  Speaker 1: degree turns, starts and stops, and accelerates at hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: miles per hour, then you have to start considering that
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  Speaker 1: maybe we are dealing with something that is not made
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  Speaker 1: on Earth. Now, Spiegel did his investigations. He contacted the
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  Speaker 1: Air Force and the FAA. Privately, some of these officers
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  Speaker 1: told him that they couldn't explain the activity, but publicly,
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  Speaker 1: he says, they refused to comment for the most part.
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  Speaker 1: And again, these witnesses include sheriffs, deputies, town police, and
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  Speaker 1: state troopers in a six county area, with most of
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  Speaker 1: the sightings being very close up. The only thing unusual
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  Speaker 1: that they could find about the Lumberton area was the
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  Speaker 1: present of a huge number of swamps and lakes and
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  Speaker 1: water towers, and of course high tension lines, but those
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  Speaker 1: are everywhere. There was one report involving an apparent landing.
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  Speaker 1: This was during April of nineteen seventy five. This comes
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  Speaker 1: from Ray Strickland and his family who were driving along
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Road when they saw a formation of pink red
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  Speaker 1: lights which came down into a potato field and seemed
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  Speaker 1: to vanish. They did drawings of it. They went to
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  Speaker 1: the police, who returned with them to the site, and
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  Speaker 1: they found something very unusual, six circular patches of ash
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  Speaker 1: on the ground that apparently wasn't there before. Now LESE.
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  Speaker 1: Spiegel says that this was just one of many similar reports,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, as he was in Lumberton investigating these sightings,
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  Speaker 1: he himself saw a strange glowing object about five hundred
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  Speaker 1: feet away. I watched it for about two or three minutes,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, and I quote, it would stop and
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  Speaker 1: start up again, just hanging over the trees, and then
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  Speaker 1: it began to pulsate, and at one particular moment it
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  Speaker 1: just stopped dead in its tracks. He says at one
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  Speaker 1: point it flared up so bright it was impossible to
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  Speaker 1: look at and then suddenly turned blood red, pulsated, and
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  Speaker 1: moved slowly away. Nearby several deputies and a police cruiser
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  Speaker 1: watched it from a different location, And this was just
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  Speaker 1: one of four sightings he had total. With so many
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  Speaker 1: sightings from so many reliable witnesses, the FA was finally
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  Speaker 1: forced to issue a statement, and they said that they
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  Speaker 1: thought the objects were a delta shaped plane with its
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  Speaker 1: landing lights on. They said that there were training flights
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  Speaker 1: going on in the area and named the aircraft. Needless
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  Speaker 1: to say, the many officers who were witnesses to this
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  Speaker 1: vehemently disagreed fact. Officer John Hayes said he saw an
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  Speaker 1: object only two hundred feet from the ground. He said
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  Speaker 1: it was forty to fifty feet long. It had two
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  Speaker 1: rows of twelve red lights along each side and a
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  Speaker 1: spotlight in front. He provided a drawing of what he saw,
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  Speaker 1: which is clearly not a plane. The only reason he
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  Speaker 1: became a witness was because he was alerted by another policeman,
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  Speaker 1: Deputy Marshal Gilbert, who saw this object heading towards where
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  Speaker 1: Hayes was. Police Chief Gary Moore joined the dozens of
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  Speaker 1: other officers who became witnesses when he said one of
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  Speaker 1: these objects hovered over his patrol car and shone a
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  Speaker 1: beam of light down on it that was quote so
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  Speaker 1: bright I could hardly look at it now. He actually
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  Speaker 1: got out of his cruiser and shone his flashlight at
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  Speaker 1: this object. He blinked it, and this object blinked back.
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  Speaker 1: He then looked at it through binoculars as he started
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  Speaker 1: to move away back into his cruiser, and chased it
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  Speaker 1: for two miles, reaching speeds of almost ninety miles per hour.
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  Speaker 1: He does not believe the FAA or Air Force explanations
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  Speaker 1: and says, quote, a jet can't park in the air.
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  Speaker 1: He also provided a drawing of what he saw. There
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  Speaker 1: are quite a few officers who were willing to go
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  Speaker 1: on record with their names, including Rtie Higgins, John mcpasson,
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  Speaker 1: Phil Stanton, Neil McCormick, P. H Atkinson, Jim Driver. I
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  Speaker 1: mean many of them, Officer Bullock, Officer McPherson, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of them. One lady she was driving at the junction
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  Speaker 1: of the two eleven and I ninety five highways when
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  Speaker 1: she says a craft chased her down the two eleven Highway.
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  Speaker 1: She called the newspapers hysterical with fear. Another witness, a
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  Speaker 1: good witness, was night security guard James E. Floyd. He
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  Speaker 1: said that four out of seven nights, again through April
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  Speaker 1: third through ninth, he saw these boomerang shaped objects with
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  Speaker 1: red and orange lights pass over the Alamac mill that
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  Speaker 1: he was guarding, producing quote a light of such intensity
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  Speaker 1: that the automatic night lights went off. Of course, as
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  Speaker 1: you might expect, during this period, the police station phones
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  Speaker 1: were ringing off the hook with people in the area
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  Speaker 1: reporting encounters. Now, the researchers to these many incidents did
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  Speaker 1: get some cooperation from the Air Force finally, when Bill Klein,
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  Speaker 1: an intelligence officer from Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, arrived
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  Speaker 1: on the scene and admitted that these reports were unusual.
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  Speaker 1: When asked flat out if he thought the reports were
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  Speaker 1: of an object mac manufactured on this planet, he replied, no,
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  Speaker 1: I do not. Now there is a fifteen minute long
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  Speaker 1: audio clip which includes police Chief William Halstead, Patrolman John Hayes,
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  Speaker 1: Bill Stanton and others talking about their encounters. It's a
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  Speaker 1: bit long and hard to hear. It's too long to
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  Speaker 1: play here, so I'm just gonna play a few minutes
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  Speaker 1: segment of it, but you can hear the whole unedited
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  Speaker 1: version at the end of this episode, as well as
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  Speaker 1: the Lumberton Report written by Jenny Zidman and others detailing
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  Speaker 1: this series of events.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my first guy a glimpside to fall from of
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  Speaker 3: the distance.
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  Speaker 4: I'll try to get up.
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  Speaker 5: Closer to it.
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  Speaker 4: When I first got the call and.
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  Speaker 3: Got out there, if I get believe they worked fast there.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't say what I'm about Anish that would just
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  Speaker 2: live away.
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  Speaker 6: I'll say you move away. But it was very good
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  Speaker 6: with horror all Ryan, what do you.
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  Speaker 7: Think it was?
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  Speaker 6: I mean it was an aircraft.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think.
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  Speaker 6: It's awfully quiet. And here, oh uh, how big do
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  Speaker 6: you think the thing was?
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  Speaker 7: Could you estimate it?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's quitty as big as uh a
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  Speaker 4: small air trap.
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  Speaker 7: Ye h, just that, And said that he didn't think
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  Speaker 7: it was much bigger than.
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  Speaker 4: His car, right the right. They they looked a little
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  Speaker 4: bigger than the party.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it was nine time.
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  Speaker 5: It was a bright white on an amber light.
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  Speaker 1: You know this was it.
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  Speaker 9: I appeared to be a tree top level.
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  Speaker 5: I was observed it through the no if uh dad looking.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I would describe it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 9: I was traveling south and I was looking more like
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: a northeastly east two lay direction. And this bright white
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: the amber light. It was a luminite whole. It was
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: illuminate in the perimeter.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: If there were it was so brave as if there
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: was any.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: Running lights along the perimature of it, it was drowning
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: them out or.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: They would blow the tree level.
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: This was seen about a minute and a half before
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: I saw it en rolled in my I rolled in
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: the city policeman, which is fifteen to twenty miles south
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: of US, and a minute and a half after I
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: saw it by an office or flank tall here.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Now there they were exprouding exactly the flint on that stuff.
• 22:07
  Speaker 10: I was headed a south on eleven sixty six, which
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: is near my home. In fact, I was on my
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: way to have lunch or suffer when we spotted the
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: craft to the east northeast.
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: I immediately gave.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Pursuit and soon over took the craft.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: It hovered along beside the roadway. It brought me one
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: hundred yards away. As it was dark, I stepped outside
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: of the vehicle.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: And with my right arm took the rice which.
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: And switched the lights on and off, and sure enough
• 22:39
  Speaker 10: I got a response from the front headlight or a
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: spot light on the vehicle. The vehicle having two spot
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: lights on it went on the front one on the back.
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: It then proceeded to move in a southwesternly direction and
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: I turned around to give pursuit again. It was sitting
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: along side of the craft as it disappeared behind trees.
• 23:00
  Speaker 11: Let's say this that I did get.
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: Within one hundred yards of the craft and was able
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: to get to signal back to me with its front
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: head light being a hundred yards away, There's no possibility.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: That it could have been mistaken for a.
• 23:17
  Speaker 10: Tail the aircraft for any other man made aircraft. For
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: that matter, I had never seen anything like it before.
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: Well, we were on Pillow Death Road, headed north and
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: just driving along into an ordinary speed, and I was
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: driving the car and I was the first one to
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: see it. I observed on what I thought to be
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: five big lights for I would say or gift to
• 23:40
  Speaker 8: be about one hundred feet in the air, and the
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: moment I focused my eyes on them, it appeared that
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: they were maybe going at a feat of about fifty
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: miles an hour, and then they speed it up like
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: one hundred miles an hour. And I went to telling
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: my wife and two daughters to look, so let's see
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: those lights. They did, and momentary that I take my
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: eyes back off of them to make a turn or
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: right hand turn. And my wife and daughter they kept
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: their eyes focused on it and they observed it going.
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: It was c in a downward position, light headed towards
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: the ground. And uh, we followed it, and it went
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: down behind a house. And I would say, uh, sixteen
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: to twenty four inch streak behind 'em. Uh, behind each
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: one of 'em.
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: Uh.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: I couldn't determine if there was smoked, but it didn't
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: appear to be smoked behind each one of 'em.
• 24:31
  Speaker 12: It didn't even look.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: Like a flame.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: It was just a beautiful streak behind each one of 'em.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: And we had church at six point thirty, and it
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: was fire fifteen at that time, and I thought the
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: time we could get home and get dressed, uh, it
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: would be time for church. But obviously we run into
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: something wet didn't anticipate running into.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: These people they don't tell you every If UH come
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: up with any kind of the story, its gotta be
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: something that U excite you whenever you see something like this.
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: I really don't think they at any time the trees
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: even bothered them. I think they were high up enough,
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: and I think that they were in a position to
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: totally miss the trees in the house that we talked
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: about them.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: But a big light in the center of it.
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: And that light is as right as these things that
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: I have ever seen.
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, right as Uh, I don't know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: I've never seen a light as about it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 12: I've seen search lights for on their forestry, but I've.
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: Never seen a light about it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Is that thing where that might shine?
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: It was shining right down the words the ground.
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: Okay? And what what color?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: We were all these ways?
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: Jiffer color lights. There was blue lights, there were red lights.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: There's an old different color lights on me. He just
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: had a little sound. Whatsoever?
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: Now, how did you determine that?
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: Like?
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Did you go outside? I was sitting here, I was
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: sitting in the building. You ever done anything that was that?
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Did it? But did you go out at all that
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: to see if you could get with a closer look
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: at it? Oh?
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I went out if I then, uh, I couldn't
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: hear a thing on it?
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: On go a little system right there.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: If there's any noises all.
• 26:06
  Speaker 12: Out here to pick you there, reyway, yuh, he'll pick
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: it up.
• 26:11
  Speaker 13: An automobile crosses that bridge down yonder even want the
• 26:14
  Speaker 13: words buy down the back of that plant, now you
• 26:16
  Speaker 13: that would pick it up right and mean you cut
• 26:18
  Speaker 13: microphone and set up down there that the pick us
• 26:20
  Speaker 13: up and then chairs the sounds out there right.
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: I just walked right out here on his driveway.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: When I told a thing, where was the carry from you?
• 26:28
  Speaker 12: It came from back in here in order to see
• 26:30
  Speaker 12: this ninety five highways back in here, and so up
• 26:32
  Speaker 12: to me, they traveled that ninety five hours. Hu uh huh.
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: They come across here, raise a canal right down here
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: to the back of this plant down here. Yeah, And
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: I saw where he was at. He just wanted above
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: the treetops. I thought he was touching the treetop. Yeah, no,
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: sounds so what so well? Yeah, No, he came out
• 26:49
  Speaker 12: up down here, and it just looked like it just
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: come up there and stopped right for a little bit of.
• 26:53
  Speaker 14: A right over the building over here.
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: Well lighting where was corner by the corner of this building.
• 26:57
  Speaker 12: We see out a light on that front office. Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: he would just be run here over there, right. He
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: looked like he just came up there and stopped and
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: set up a little bit, and then he started the
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: moving over and over. And I never seen nothing to move.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Like the move.
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: Our airplane can't come up there and do that, or
• 27:13
  Speaker 12: a helicopter in either one without me hearing it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: Tell me what happened when when the lights went out?
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: Where was that?
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: It happened two nights that thing come that close two
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: different nights, on Tuesday night and Wednesday night. At those
• 27:25
  Speaker 12: times it came from the same direction and it went
• 27:27
  Speaker 12: back close to the same directions as it came from.
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: All of these lights here on the front of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: planet there were, that's the lights that went out there, one, two.
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: Three, four, five, five lights. And now where are these
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: lights powered from?
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 27:39
  Speaker 14: Are they powered by.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: The same sort of these lights over here?
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: Am lights? So those are down here?
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: Where these they still burning? They were still on, They
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: were still on those.
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: Was out and yet they were all powered by the
• 27:49
  Speaker 14: same that's right.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: The lights see down as long as that thing was.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Over down there, and when it left, the lights came
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: back from.
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: At least five minutes they were out.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: But it would get as plane as this. Obviously you've
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: got new hand here.
• 28:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah, sitting right out, I get a handed of men
• 28:10
  Speaker 15: taking the treetops that didn't miss much, so it didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 15: write down on them.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was on a plane. I already heard it. Helicopter.
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: Uh, he comes out there and stopped.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: He's gonna make a noise.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: It was going.
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: The motors got to run to.
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: Hold it up down the air.
• 28:23
  Speaker 11: And that thing did not have no noise what so well.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't over. Lumberton still continued to have activity
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: because it was just six years later another report of
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: a humanoid surfaced. This was a strange silver suited humanoid.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: It was early January of nineteen eighty one that a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: couple was returning home round ten pm. They turned off
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Barker ten mile Road. This is the same location the
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: other humanoid was seen. And they saw a round flashing
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: light at the turnoff of Beg and McLeod roads, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: as they turned off to mclead they saw a figure
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: wearing a quote bright shining metallic spacelike suit covered from
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: head to toe with what appeared to be some sort
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: of space helmet. Antennas and all now this figure came
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: out of the bushes, waving its arms as though signaling
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the drivers to stop. Meanwhile, this strange glowing object behind
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it continued to flash lights. The couple was too frightened
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to stop. They continued driving. But again this was very
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: much the same area where a strange humanoid was seen
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: years earlier. Encounters continued. On April twenty, nineteen ninety two,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: residents along Harper's Ferry Road between Pembroke and Maxon saw
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: a classic flying saucer with rotating white lights around the edge,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: was making a humming noise, was hovering in the sky.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: The witnesses include Ian Dill, Delilah Locklear, Cricket Locklear, and
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a friend. Said Ian Diele, one of the witnesses, it
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: was shaped like a discus or flying saucer, was pretty
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: far off, but it was pretty big too. Now. One
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: more final Lumberton case, probably not the last, occurred on
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: March six, two thousand and eight, when four witnesses described
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a classic flying saucer covered with lights around the edge.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: One of them said, and I quote, the size of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the object was bigger than anything I had ever seen.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: It was the size of four to five airplanes. Very low,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: almost like it was scoping everything out. I will never
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: look at the sky the same way again. So I
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on in Lumberton, but clearly something
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: is of interest to the UFO occupants. So how about that.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the kind of UFO case that is
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely undeniable. You just cannot be skeptical when you have
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: fifty PLEA officers over several counties all seeing things at
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the same time, all these different humanoid cases, landing traces,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, so much going on, and that's just one
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: location over a short period of time. Most of this stuff,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: again does not get documented really in any way. Most
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: people keep quiet, especially if it's an amazing encounter extensive
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: involving humanoids or being taken on board, or having missing
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: time or something like that. So here's another case, because
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: there's always another one. In this next case I'd like
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to talk about I call the Little Black Aliens. This
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: is a really interesting and profound case which occurred on
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: October ninth, nineteen fifty seven, in Mariaville, New York. I
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: like this case because it's a multiple witness case with
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: landing traces and just really interesting. JUDO thirty on the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: afternoon of October ninth, nineteen fifty seven, as Marie Jaeger
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: sat in her trailer on Duaynsburg Church Road, not far
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: from Mariaville Lake in Mariaville, New York. Marie had agreed
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to babysit her neighbor's children and had just made cookies
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and hot chocolate for them. She was sitting in front
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: of the picture window waiting for the school bus to
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: bring her children home. It was a cloudy, windy day,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and Marie saw movement out in the yard. What she
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: thought for a split second was clothes being blown off
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of her neighbour's clothes line. But taking a second and
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: closer look, she saw that the movement was actually coming
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: from a roundish silver object which was reflecting the light.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: She said it was shaped like quote an old fashioned
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: washtub and was not much larger than that. She washed
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: it descend and apparently land behind the hill a short
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: distance away. Two or three minutes later, it reappeared and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: ascended upwards and was gone. She didn't think too much
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: about it, but she sure did the next day when
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: something even stranger and more bizarre happened. It was around
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the same time October tenth, Maria was out in the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: yard to the left of her trailer, feeding her ducks
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: and chickens when she heard a strange whizzing sound, what
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: she said was kind of like a fast spinning pin wheel,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but much louder. Her ducks and chickens began quacking and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: squawking loudly, including her drake, which she said was normally
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: afraid of nothing, but now appeared to be greatly frightened.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: So looking up, she saw this same object that she
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: had seen the previous day, but this time it came
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: down very nearby, stopping only about six feet above the ground. Immediately,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: two black figures emerged from the object and hopped into
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the woods. She didn't get a good view of them,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: she says, she was really too frightened, and they were
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: also moving so fast as to be almost a blur.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: The object remained for just about two minutes, then suddenly
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: made a loud whirring noise again and took off vertically
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: so quickly, she said that it sucked up the leaves,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: grass and dirt around it, which came crashing back to
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: the ground. Now she did not see the black figures
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: after they had disappeared into the woods, but this whole
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: experience frightened her pretty badly, badly enough that she returned
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to her trailer, grabbed her baby, got into her vehicle,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and drove over to a friend's house. She immediately told
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: them what happened, and they didn't want to believe her
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: at first, but they could see that she was incredibly frightened,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: so they did believe her. Shortly later, the school bus
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: did arrive. Marie told the bus driver what she had seen,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and he was amazed and told her that he had
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: seen something very similar to what she described two craft,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: but they were by side sitting in a field just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: moments earlier. He urged her to call the police. What
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: she did. She called the police, who were also skeptical
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: until she asked them to send over officers to protect her,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: so they did take her report seriously. They sent over
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: two troopers and a deputy sheriff who searched the area
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: but found nothing. But later, a scientist and researcher heard
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: about the sighting shortly after it occurred, went to investigate
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and found a whitish material in the area where Marie
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: said that this craft had hovered. He said this material
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: stuck to the grass and looked kind of like lime.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: He took a sample of it and said he would
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: let Marie know what it was. Though this apparently did
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: not happen. If it did, it wasn't in the many
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: reports on this case. I think there's some important takeaways
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: from that case. One is that if you've seen something,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: likely there is another witness. Another important aspect was the
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: emotional reaction of the witness, how very scared she was.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: We see this quite often and I'm very curious about it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: It's very clear that people in general fear the unknown.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Another reason why I do this research so we can
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: make the unknown known and move past fear. Now, let's
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: move to the next case, which is also really compelling.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I call this one five Saucers and six Aliens. This
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: case very nearly did not get any publicity whatsoever, went unrecorded,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: but thankfully, through pure coincidence, we do.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Know about it.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: This one occurred on November eighteen, nineteen fifty seven, near Maracaha, Brazil,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and this case I like for a number of reasons,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: mainly is that there are so any witnesses. It was
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: about ten thirty a m. When Pedro Zilly, a forty
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: three year old owner of a tobacco farm in Maracaga,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Santa Katerina, Brazil as employee Jau Ermani. They were building
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a hot house to dry tobacco leaves when they both
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: heard this weird, low, buzzing noise. They didn't pay much
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: attention to it. They just kind of passed it off
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: as the noise of the wind. But then they noticed
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: that the cattle nearby which had been grazing, had stopped
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: grazing and were now looking in a frightened manner towards
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a grove of nearby trees. Looking in that direction, Pedro
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: and Jao were amazed to see about five hundred feet
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: away from them two metallic craft sitting on the ground,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: quite large. They wondered at first if this might be
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: wreckage from a plane that had fallen from the sky,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and curious, they began to approach, but both men stopped
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in their tracks when they saw six tall, thin looking
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: men dressed in a sort of strange looking dark clothes,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: which emerged from this grove of trees and began to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: walk towards the craft per the farmers. The men were
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: quote middle sized, wearing gray suits glued on their bodies,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: apparently seeing that they were being observed. These weird figures
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: quickly ran into the craft, climbing small ladders and entering inside.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Now Pedro and Jah were now close enough to see
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: that these were not conventional craft. They were round about
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: ten feet across, of course, had no wings or protrusions
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: of any kinds except for a small ladder leading to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: an opening, and they weren't actually landed on the ground,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: but were hovering about three feet above it. So these
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: six men quickly approached the craft, divided into two groups
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: of three figures each, and entered into them. Moments later,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: these two craft made a loud whistling sound and took
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: off with such speed that the coconut palm trees next
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to them were almost flattened bent over double to the
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: ground by the force of the wind, And seconds later
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Pedro and Jao were amazed to see three other identical
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: looking craft emerge from behind the trees, ascend upwards, and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: join the other two in the sky. At this point,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: all five craft darted off to the west at high speed.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: A short time later, Jaou noticed a jeep driving by,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and he stopped the driver to ask if they had
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: seen any flying saucers. This jeep was being driven by
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a man who was transporting a patient to the hospital,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and the driver said, no, he had not seen any
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: flying saucers, nothing unusual, and he drove off. But it
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: was later that day he was amazed to hear local
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: residents in a neighboring village talk about seeing strange obs
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: in the sky. Some described hearing strange noises. So the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: driver became very curious. He returned back to the tobacco
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: farm to get more information and got the story and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: was this man who informed researchers of the incident and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: led to this case being investigated and later publicized in
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: local newspapers. So there you go, another amazing encounter with
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: UFO and humanoids. It's amazing because that, yeah, that case
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: very nearly did not get documented in any way. It
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: was pure coincidence that that guy was driven by, happened
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: to talk to the witnesses, and then found out that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: there were more witnesses. Not for that guy, we probably
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: would not be hearing about this case whatsoever, which just
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: goes to show again that the vast majority of cases
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: go unreported. And he estimates on how common UFO and
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: cot like this are probably a lot more than we think.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And here is another really important series of UFO events
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: that deserve to be well known, and I call this
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: one something Weird over Denmark. This main event occurred on
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: November twenty first, nineteen fifty seven, near South Jutland, Denmark,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: and again involves landed UFO and humanoids. But like I'm
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: seeing with a lot of these cases, it's not an
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: isolated event. There were other witnesses and in fact this
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: event took place during a massive wave over Denmark that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: was really causing waves at very high levels of government.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: As we shall see. It was the afternoon of November
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: twenty first, nineteen fifty seven, as grosser Hans Haugard Hanson
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: left his grocery store in Geston, Denmark to pick up
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: supplies in the nearby town of Egholt, and as he
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: drove near the Guesten Forest, he noticed a strange object
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: about six hundred feet away over a nearby turnip field.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: He first thought that it was a tractor with a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: glass encased cabin, but as he got closer he saw
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it was actually a strange vehicle of some kind, not normal.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: It was about nine to ten feet tall. It looked
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: almost pure middle or triangular in shape, was emitting a
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: soft red orange glow, and it looked unusual enough that
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: he decided to stop his car. He left the engine
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: idle and took a closer look at this weird craft.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: He could hear no sound coming from it, and looking
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: at this object, he was amazed because he could now
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: see that there were actually two human looking figures sitting
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: inside it, one right behind the other. These were totally
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: human looking. He said. The craft had a solid bottom portion,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: but the top was semi transparent. He watched it for
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: just a few moments when the eye objects flew at
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: about thirty five to forty miles per hour towards a
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: nearby hell, where it landed or hovered perhaps about three
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: feet above the ground. And after that it flew off
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: towards a nearby bog and disappeared from view. But as
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Hans says, they were sitting motionless in the glass dome.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I will not hide the fact that I was seriously
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: surprised when I saw the object come flying. So after
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: it left, Hans did search the field where this object
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: had been for any kind of physical evidence, but didn't
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: find anything. He did call the police to report his
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: sighting and as it turns out, he was not the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: only witness. In fact, there were many. The police did
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: an investigation and found two other people who were in
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the same area at the same time, and one of
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: them did report hearing a strange sound. But also on
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the same day, two residents of the nearby town of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Jordrup exited their barn and saw a simily described object
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: hovering over the ground about three hundred feet away. They
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: told reporters that this object moved in a very strange way,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: was moving gently just above the ground. It lifted up
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: as it passed over a fence and then lowered itself
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: as it moved over a depression in the ground. This
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it was almost as if it had some sort of
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: censor to detect the terrain.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: They said.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: It did make a slight humming noise and emitted a
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: brilliant searing light from its bottom. That wasn't the only
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: sighting on that day. Was around four p m. That Niels,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: powder his wife and their friend Emilie Nielsen of Vorbas
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: saw an object, which they said was shaped kind of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: like a tea or a cross, was glowing, flying at
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: very low altitude. They watched it for about ten minutes,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: and they also reported seeing two humanoid figures inside it. Now,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: as it turns out, Denmark was having a lot of
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: activity at this time. Lieutenant Colonel Hans Christian Peterson of
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the Danish Air Force later co founder of the Scandinavia
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: UFO Information Group, said that two reports from the island
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of Bornholm were reported to the Danish Defense Intelligence on
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: November twenty, nineteen fifty seven. This is the day before
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the above two sightings. Now, many people reported this object,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: which was silent and hovering, and this was just the
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: beginning of a huge wave of activity. And in fact,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the Danish newspaper family Blad said that they had received
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: hundreds of reports. As they wrote, not a single day
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: passes without some report appearing in daily papers all over
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the country of true observations having been made by truthful people.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And strangely enough, the observations are made in different parts
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: of the country, all at the same time. Therefore, the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: possibility of optical illusions or imagination is out of the question.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Strange things are happening between the sky and Denmark. Another
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: newspaper wrote accounts of witnesses seeing weird objects, including one
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: group of witnesses who saw a very large object releasing
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: smaller ones, and one newspaper wrote quote, so many reports
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: of a similar nature have been sent to the Air
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Force Station of Screedstrup that they have been unable to
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: cope with all of them, and more are expected in
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the near future. Interestingly, all of this occurred right on
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the heels of a huge wave in early November that
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: swept across the United States and the world. Another interesting fact,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: on November twenty first, nineteen fifty seven, the same date
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: as the above humanoid sightings, radar officers huma AFS in
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Louisiana Air Force Station observed a radar target get this,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: fifteen miles long and ten miles wide at an estimated
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: altitude of thirty one thousand feet. This was observed on
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: multiple scopes. So this was an incredibly busy month, and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the above cases are just a tiny portion of the
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: actual number of cases going on at this time. November
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven is a month that will always go
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: down in UFO history as being unprecedented. Particularly the beginning
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: of the month in the United States was absolutely incredible.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I did a whole episode called One Week in November
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: on just the cases that were in the US, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: here we have another amazing series of events in the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: latter part of the month going on over Denmark. Makes
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: me wonder if these are intentional displays ET's conducting what
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: amounts to a publicity campaign. To me, that is the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: takeaway from this particular case, because that's what it sounds
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: like is going on. ETS do want us to know
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: about them. And now we move to another case. I
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: call this one I can still feel the fear. This
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: one occurred in June of nineteen sixty three. It's technically
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: a multiple witness case, but really only one witness, as
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the other one was quite a young child. This occurred
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: in Storeholm in Sweden. This is a tiny little island.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: This is quite an unusual case which involves what we
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: would call a USO, an unidentified submersible object, though technically
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: it wasn't submerged. This was a UFO that was touching
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the water. It's a really fascinating case. And yeah, I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: gave it that title because the winness had such a
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: strong emotional reaction to what was going on. This very
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: unusual case was apparently not officially investigated, but comes from
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the number four nineteen eighty nine issue of the Swedish
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: publication UFO, directly from the witness herself. It occurred on
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the very small island of Storholmen. This is located northeast
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of Stockholm in Sweden. The witnesses was there with her
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: seven year old son. They were enjoying the warm summer weather.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: They liked going there regularly to explore the beaches and
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: watch the birds, collect rocks and driftwood. This particular day
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: was a beautiful sunny day. They were at the southernmost
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: tip of the island. And I'll just let the witness
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: describe in her own words, as she says, everything was
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: so peaceful. But suddenly, for no reason at all, I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: began to feel a strong anxiety. Something menacing was afoot.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I looked out at the water, which was perfectly nearer like,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and it was at this point that she saw a
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: reflection of something shiny on the water, clearly an object
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: of some kind. But whatever it was, it was coming
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: right for her at very high speed. And again I
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: will let her describe in her own words, as she says,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it seemed to go really fast. I took my son
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and ran into the thicket, where we huddled together so
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: as not to be seen. There was a faint whine,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and the shiny craft was within sight. It had a
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: two man crew. One stood up while the others sat
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: or lay down in the cockpit under a round, transparent dome.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: The boat was oval and flat as a pancake, all silver.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: It glided so easily over the water at high speed.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Everything happened so fast, but I could make out the
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: standing man's profile and clothing. He was very masculine, well trained,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: muscular and robust. He was dressed in close fitting frogman
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: gear in thin silk la may On his hands were
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: motorcycle gloves and a wide kidney belt around his waist,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: all in silver. The man sitting was partially obscured, but
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: both gave a bright impression, for they were very pale.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: It was a beautiful crew. But I felt a great
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: fear now for a moment, as this object approached swiftly,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the witness thought that perhaps they were coming straight for
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: her to their location. But before it did, the object
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: suddenly flew up like lightning and disappeared in a flash.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: She says that the moment it was gone, she and
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: her son ran up to higher ground, which gave them
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: a full view of the lake on all sides, and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: nothing was there. There was no boat, nothing, nobody else
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: was in the area, So, as far as she knows,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: nobody else saw this. But she was so impressed by
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the weird appearance of the object and the crew that
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: she reported her sighting to UFO magazine. And as she wrote,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I have often thought about the incident and wondered who
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: it was that visited us. This happened many years ago.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I can still feel the fear inside me at that time.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: There you have it, another case with high strangeness. I
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: find it fascinating that the witness started to feel a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: sense of foreboding even before the encounter occurred. This is
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: something that a number of witnesses report that they can
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: feel something coming. This might be related to the oz
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: effect that we hear so often about this unnatural silence.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: At any rate, it's this weird precognition that occurs with encounters.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: It's a really amazing case. And now we move to
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: another one, which I call Alien Street Sweeper. This is
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: a really weird case. It is a multiple witness case
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: or are UFOs involved a carving chase down the road.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty complicated case. Actually November eighteenth, nineteen seventy
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: three is when it occurred, and it occurred near Montreal, Canada,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and it's a very unusual case. As we shall see.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: This very unusual case comes from Canadian researcher John Brent Musgrave,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: author of UFO Occupants and Critters and other books. The
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: witnesses are four young women aged twenty four to fourteen,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: and they were driving southwest from the city of Sorel Tracy,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Quebec to Montreal. You're traveling along the A thirty highway
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: bordering the Saint Lawrence River. Now shortly after leaving the
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: city on the evening of November eighteen, nineteen seventy three,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: they all noticed a glowing sphere in front of them,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: kind of alongside the highway. They drove up to it
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and passed it by, at which point this sphere began
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: to move, pacing their car on the right side, right
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: over the Saint Lawrence River. They said this object sparkled
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: with yellow white light and seemed to pulsate, becoming alternately
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: large and brilliant, then small and dim. It didn't look
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: terribly large, They estimated about the size of a watermelon,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: but they couldn't be sure. Now, the witnesses did notice
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that whenever they reached a less populated area, the object
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: would come closer to them, but whenever they reached an
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: area where there was lots of structures and buildings, this
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: object would rise up and recede into the distance. They
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: watched it go up and down in altitude, but mostly
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: it stated at the height of the telephone poles or
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: about tree top level. And the longer followed them, the
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: more scared they became. At one point, this car passed
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: by them, traveling at very high speed, and when this happened,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the sphere rose up in altitude. After the car was gone,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: it came down again. Now, as they reached the contra
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: core area, the traffic suddenly slowed down, at which point
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: these objects also slowed down and hovered over this field,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: still pacing them. Now ahead of them, they saw this
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: weird quote pink cloud. This was lying across the road.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: They couldn't tell what it was, if it was dust, smoke,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: or fog, but it looked so strange that all the
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: witnesses forgot about the UFO that was following them and
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: diverted their attention to this strange pink cloud. There were
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: other cars on the highway, and all of them had
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: no choice but to drive through this weird cloud. Inside
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: this pink cloud, they reported what we would probably call
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the well known oz effect. As they said, quote, everything
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: was very quiet and silent. Now coming out the other side,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: they sped up, but had to immediately put on the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: brakes because the car that had raced by them at
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: high speed had apparently had an accident and was now
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: lying wrecked in a ditch off to the side of
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the road. Passing by this car, they sped up again,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: but had to slam on the brakes almost immediately and
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: swerve to avoid this strange quote little man who was
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: standing in the road. The figure, they said, was about
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: five feet tall or less, was wearing dark clothing with
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: a cap that could quote hide his face. He was
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: holding this broom like tool in his hand. Now it
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: was weird because he was wearing dark clothing. He was
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: standing directly on the white dividing line on the highway.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Also was seemingly unaware of the traffic, not responding to it,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and appeared to be using this instrument to sweep the road.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Perhaps they weren't sure. Further up the roads to short
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: distance where two or three persons, also dressed in black,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: standing next to the road, not far from the car
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: in the ditch. No, the investigators to this case felt
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: that this might have been a city worker or workers
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: who were clearing the road from this accident, but they
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: also considered the possibility that this figure was perhaps connected
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to the UFO, which had followed the witnesses car up
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: to this point. And as John Musgrays says, I've elected
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: to put this into the limbo category pending more information.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: But it's weird because if this was a human cleaning
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: up this accident, why is he dressed in dark clothes,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Why is he in the middle of the road, Why
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: didn't they stop traffic to clear the road. And there
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: are some weird details here which don't quite add up.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Turns out there's still more information to this case because
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: later the witnesses were driving back and that weird pinkish
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: cloud was still there. Also in support of the UFO
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: exclamation is that this sighting was the first of no
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: less than eleven reports of unidentified glowing objects in orbs
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: in that area on that evening. I don't know about
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: that one. You'll have to make up your own minds
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: about it. I mean, it's clear that this car was
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: being pursued or paced by this UFO, and given that
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: so many other people saw UFOs on that same night
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: in that area, absolutely lends corroboration and credence to the
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: witness's testimony. But as far as the humanoid, while a
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: little on the fence about it could have been just
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: a normal human sweeping the streets. But even that's unusual
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: in the way that it was dressed. The fact that
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: it's standing there in the middle of the road, no
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: fear of being hit, ignoring the traffic. I don't know.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: It's strange. But now we move to another case, and
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: this is probably my favorite of the bunch. It's so poignant,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: really touching. I call this one. Don't you want to
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: come on board? This occurred in the summer of nineteen
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: seventy four in Oslo, Norway, and wow, what case this is.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: It really made me think. This case comes from researcher
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: nut Ashim and it was published in the Norwegian magazine
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: UFO was around noon a bright sunny day in summer
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy four. As the witness, known only by
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: her initials Miss Nn, she was seventy three years old,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and she was taking a walk in the suburban area
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: of western Oslo near her home. Nobody was around. Strangely,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: there was no traffic either, and she was going up
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: a shallow hill with many older homes and large gardens,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and she was coming up to a cross street when
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: she heard the sound of beautiful music. She looked around
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: to locate the source of the music, and as this
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: sound came closer and louder, she looked up and saw
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the source was actually a strange object hovering above the
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: pine trees to the north. She said it quote moved slowly,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: like it was on a scouting trip. She had the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: impression that whoever was in the object had noticed her,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: because immediately as soon as she saw this object, it
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: quickly came down lower and closer to her. The music stopped,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: and this object, now silent, revealed itself to be sort
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: of squarish oblong with rounded corners, and it was about
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the size of a small cottage. Through a very large
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: window or transparent section of the front of this craft,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: she could see three human looking figures. This frightened her.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: She turned around and began walking home and became even
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: more frightened when this object began to follow her. She
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: did notice that it was leaving a trail of condensation
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: behind it, and she had the sense that whoever was
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: in this object was aware of her and was watching her.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: This object then rose upward, she believed, to avoid the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: trees lining the avenue, and also to get a better
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: view of her, as she was now obscured from view
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: by the trees. But as she moved out into the open,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: the object descended again, coming even lower than the tree
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: tops and still following her. Miss and N kept turning
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  Speaker 1: around to keep an eye on the object, and she
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  Speaker 1: could now get a very good view of these three figures.
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  Speaker 1: She said. The interior of the object was illuminated by
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  Speaker 1: a yellow white light. These three figures were wearing dark
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  Speaker 1: beige uniforms, which she described as being like quote work clothes.
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  Speaker 1: They covered the entire body except for the head. She
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: said that they had medium blonde hair. Two were sitting
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  Speaker 1: at sort of a table facing her. She didn't see
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  Speaker 1: any legs to the table, it was just a flat surface,
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  Speaker 1: but a third sat to the side. He appeared to
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  Speaker 1: be taller. He was dressed in darker clothes that she
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  Speaker 1: said looked quote sleek and stately. She said that she
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: had the distinct impression that he was the leader or manager.
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  Speaker 1: Now she stared at him in surprise when he suddenly
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  Speaker 1: stood up, reached out one of his arms in a
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  Speaker 1: welcoming gesture, bowed gently, and smiled as if to say,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead. Don't you want to come on board? She
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: had the distinct impression that this was what he was
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: trying to say. And although this action was clearly friendly,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: this is how she perceived it. She became even more
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: frightened and decided to no, she did not want to
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  Speaker 1: go on board, and this is when she began to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: run away towards her home, while at the same time
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: trying to keep an eye on this object. At one point,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: she hid herself behind some bushes, but this object followed, and,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: to her surprise, every time she looked, the same figure
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: again would stand up and again gesture for her to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: come on board. He repeated this same gesture several times,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: but the witness continued to run. By the time she
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: reached the gate of her home, she was pretty much
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: out of breath. She looked up again and the object
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: was gone. She did notice an unnatural stillness in the air.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: She says the entire episode lasted she estimates about twenty minutes,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: but she had no doubt in her mind that she
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: had just had an encounter with a UFO and its occupants.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: She said that after this event, she had a series
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: of nightmarish dreams about the incident, and she told nobody
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: what happened for a very long time. Well, she did
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: finally tell her son, who had become interested in parapsychology
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: and open to this kind of subject. So this apparently
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: led to this case being investigated, and the investigators to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the case thought it was very significant that the witness
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: herself was a trained violinist and came from a very
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: musical family, and they wondered if perhaps the UFO had
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: played music intentionally to attract her attention. I'm not sure why,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: but I've found that case really touching. Maybe it's because
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: it occurred to an elderly lady. Maybe it was her
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: strong fear reaction. Maybe it was the fact that the
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: UFO is playing music for her, something she was very
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: familiar with. Don't have a lot of cases like that,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: but it does turn up also the fact that they
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: were very friendly and invited her on board, and sadly
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: she had a very strong fear reaction. I would have
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: loved to have spoken with her directly, because I suspect
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  Speaker 1: that this wasn't a one off, that she probably had
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: other encounters. I can't say for sure, but it is
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  Speaker 1: a pattern we see so often that I really wonder
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: about that. An amazing case all around. And now we
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: moved to the next case. This one again is not
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: that well known, but certainly deserves to be. I call
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: this one landing at a French farm. This is a
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: very close up case involving a landing and humanoid, quite
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: a strange humanoid, I might add. That occurred on December nine,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, in fontfer France, and it's a really
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: compelling case because this witness got a very close up
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: view of this UFO and this humanoid. It was a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: pretty long encounter with some apparent landing traces as well,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: and some really interesting corroboration from other witnesses in the area.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: The main witness in this case is known only as
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Chanta L. She's a twelve year old girl. It was
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: about six point thirty on December ninth, nineteen seventy seven
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: that Shanta had just finished her kitchen chores and was
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: looking out the window to the field west of her house.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: This is when she saw a very bright gloe growing red,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: kind of flattened, oval shaped object floating right above the trees.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: It was pretty big, about twenty two feet long, eight
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: to ten feet high, and moving slowly about fifteen miles
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: per hour. She could hear a whining motor sound coming
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: from it, and suddenly it came in for a landing
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: just about one hundred and fifty feet away. It was
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: just moments later that she saw a seven or eight
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: foot tall figure emerged from the center upper edge of
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the object. It floated to the right, floated down to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: the ground, then moved over to the other side, floated
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: up to the top again, and apparently re entered the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: object as it was no longer visible. But Chantal never
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: did see any doors open or closed. This figure just emerged,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: came down, skirted around the object, floated back up and
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: went back inside. And she said this figure was very
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: strange looking. Its head was kind of squarish, It had
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: a dark face plate. It had short gray white neck,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: rough looking, dull textured scuba diving suit all medium gray said,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: its legs were very long, had a very thin body.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: She was close enough to see that it had five
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: fingers on each hand, and it seemed to float rather
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: than walk, and not once did it move its arms
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: or legs. They just stayed stiffly by the side of
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: its body. Now, after this empty entered the craft, the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: craft rose upwards, going no higher than forty or fifty feet,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: making the same whining noise, and promptly landed again. This
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: was about thirty feet from the road one hundred and
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: fifty feet from the house, and as it landed a
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: second time, the whining engine noise stopped. The winness left
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the window to move to another nearby window for a
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: better view, and watched this object for about two minutes
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: until it suddenly rose upwards and moved off. The total
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: duration of the encounter was about fifteen minutes. Sadly, around
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: this time, her mother was working in the barn, did
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: not see or hear anything, returned into the house and
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: heard the story from her daughter. Turned out the dog
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: in the house did not react either. But something very
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: interesting happened the next day, because when they let the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: cows out, the cows began jumping around in all directions,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: almost as if they were receiving electric shocks, and this
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: was exactly in the area where this craft had landed. Also,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: going to the site where this craft had landed, they
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: found that the grass was all wilted, as if subjected
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: to extreme heat, and they also found nine footprints pressed
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: about a half inch into the soil, and there was
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: some corroboration of this. Two days later, on the evening
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: of December eleventh, nineteen seventy seven, Chantal's two younger reported
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: seeing an object of the same shape and size moving
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: around in the sky. Investigators learned that there was another
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: gentleman from Beaumont located northeast of fon Foray. He said
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: he saw a bright red round object at low altitude
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: heading directly towards the location of this first encounter fon Foray.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: He doesn't remember the exact date, but does say it
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: was early December of nineteen seventy seven, so it could
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: have been the same day, but that's not verified. Another
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: testimony comes from a man who said that on December first,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: he also saw a bright red object moving slowly at
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: low altitude in this same area. Though none of these
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: other witnesses saw the object land or did they see
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: any humanoids? But these descriptions definitely fit Chantelle's observation and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: provide an extra level of confirmation. And another unusual thing
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: about this area is that there it is a large cave.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Pretty fascinating case, I think you'll agree. I'm always curious
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: as to what draws UFOs and etis to a particular location.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of landings at farms, so perhaps
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: that's what was going on here. I also found it
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: fascinating that there's some very large caves in this area,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: because there are other cases where UFOs seem to be
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: hovering over cave systems. Perhaps this is a loose association
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: because there are so many cases occurring all over the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: world that I think we really are looking for patterns
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: and connections that might not necessarily be there. Hard to
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: say for sure, but we do need to check out
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: all the evidence and try to figure out what's going
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: on here. And now we move to the next case,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: which I call I heard a piercing scream. This occurred
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: in March of nineteen seventy eight and a very rural
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: area of Tasmania called Lake Sorel. This is a super
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: interesting case because it does have a lot of witnesses,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: some really unusual high strangeness details to it, landing traces
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: as well. I love that when there's more evidence, that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: really brings another level of validity and corroboration to these
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: cases that make it hard to deny that something unusual
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: is happening. It was early March of nineteen seventy eight
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: that Monty Brinsmead said he saw a strange flying object
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: hovering above a hill near Lake Surrel. This is in
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: the rural Central Highland of Tasmania. He said the object
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: had flashing lights around the perimeter, glowing lights underneath it,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: which illuminated the ground. It frightened him enough that he
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: dashed into his house and retrieved his rifle, rushing outside
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: and loading his gun as he went. This object quickly
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: darted away.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: He had the.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: Impression that it was sensing his intention to shoot at it.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: So after this sighting he checked with his neighbors whe
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: got a shock. He learned that dozens of them had
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: recently seen similar objects. So this concerned him and he
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: decided to take action. He organized a system of communication
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: where anyone in this area who saw strange aerial activity
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: would agree to blow their horns and signal each other
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: whenever these objects appeared. Was one night a short time later,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Monty says he was woken up from a sleep by
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: a brilliant glowing light outside his home. He rushed outside
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: with his loaded rifle in hand. Instantly this glowing light disappeared,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: but Monty got another shock. This is so strange. The
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: doors of his car, which had been locked, were all
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: now standing wide open. Later, on another occasion, Monty was
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: walking to his house from his barn when he heard loud,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: quote squishing footsteps. These were following him, and it sounded
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: to him like a heavy man was walking through the mud.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: He rushed inside, grabbed his rifle, and emerged just in
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: time to hear these footsteps near his garden. He quickly
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: fired his rifle in the direction of the footsteps, and,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: as he told reporters, I heard a piercing scream but
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: saw nothing. That was all, There was no blood. It
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: must have been invisible. Now he never heard the footsteps again,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: but doing more investigation with his neighbors, he learned that
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: most of the sightings were occurring in the same area,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: right over nearby table Mountain. This made him curious so
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: he organized a group of his neighbors and together they
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: climbed up to the summit, which was not easily accessible.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: This is really only accessible by foot or by aircraft.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: But getting to the top, they were amazed to find
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: strange tracks on the ground and there right on the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: top in the soft soil. They also found small rectangular
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: sections where it looked like the mall had been carefully removed.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: They ruled out helicopters causing all of this is some
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: of these landing tracks measured more than fifty feet in length.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: No actual humanoid scene in that case, but apparently heard
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: when you hear footsteps and you find all these landing
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: traces and so many people are seeing UFOs and he
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: heard the scream, it's clear there was someone or something there.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: It's a really unusual case and again not well known
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: at all. So now we do know about it, and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: it's another piece of the puzzle to what's going on here.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: And now we get to our final case of this episode,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: which is quite brief but certainly interesting, and I call
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: this one the alien at the Beach. This one is
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: not super well investigated, though researchers certainly did look into
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: it and interviewed one of the witnesses, and there were severalitnesses.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: It is a multiple witness case. This occurred on February third,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four at Paseto, Italy, and it's an unusual
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: case involving a very weird looking humanoid. This next case
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: was investigated by Italian researchers Renzo Cabasi, Plo Fiorino, and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Marcello Qupilli. They all followed up on a newspaper report
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: describing what was apparently a multiple witness account of a
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: strange humanoid. They wrote this case up in the Italian
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: publication UFO. It was around nine a m. On the
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: morning of February third, nineteen ninety four. As a group
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: of about six witnesses, when fortunately are mostly anonymous, we're
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: all at the beach near some caves. This is near
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Ancona in Passeto, Italy. One of the witnesses who did
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: agree to a formal interview is known only as Giulio.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: He's seventy five years old. He and the other witnesses,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: he said, all saw this strange looking figure, which they
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: said was about five feet tall and did not appear
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: to be human. He had a very elongated face, with
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: very sharp features, two huge round eyes with round black pupils,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: had a large, broad chest and narrow waiste, huge feet,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: and he was wearing a full body black suit and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: what appeared to be headphones with kind of protrusions or
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: antennae sticking out. And this figure was wandering among a
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: rocky formation known as Pope's Chair, and he was moving strangely,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: very slowly, seemed to sway and stagger. So this went
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: on for about ten minutes when suddenly this strange figure
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: surprised all the witnesses by quickly rising vertically and moving
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: off to the northeast in the sky and disappearing into
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: the distance. Now, the witness Julio, later wondered if this
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: might be some kind of inflated balloon figure. This event
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: was reported to some of the witnesses to the local
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: newspapers and TV stations, who unfortunately kind of ridiculed the case,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: and this caused the witnesses to clam up. Was because
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: of this that they refused to cooperate with any investigators
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: all except for the one gentleman who did agree to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: an interview. So unfortunately, there's no further information on this
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: brief and very strange case, but there you go. This
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: was either a balloon or an alien. So that's another
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: case that you're going to have to make up your
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: own minds about. I found it interesting, but I also
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: find it somewhat amusing that the witnesses themselves wonder if
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: this was an actual humanoid from elsewhere or a balloon.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: These are such widely diverging explanations that's a little hard
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: to make sense of, but such an interesting case because
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: this certain it doesn't sound like a balloon. I don't know. Again,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: if there was a more thorough investigation, I think I'd
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: be less on the fence about it. But I found
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: it compelling enough to include in this episode, and I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: hope you found it interesting as well. So that's our
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: episode for today. I can't believe how many humanoid cases
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I've covered in these various episodes. It's well over a
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: couple of thousand.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: People can say all they want about how skeptical they
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: are of reports of humanoids, but the fact is there
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: are so many, coming from so many people from all
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: over the world, many of which are backed up by
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: a wide variety of evidence, that I think it's undeniable
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: that something really profound is going on here. I think
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: the evidence is fair to the conclusion we are not alone.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: We are being visited. Extraterrestrials are real. And if our
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: own governments would simply just disclose, release the craft and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: the b is that I think they have, it would
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: be a different ballgame. All bets would be off. We
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: would know for sure that we are not alone. I'm
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: not sure that's ever gonna happen, and so it's up
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: to all of us to figure it out ourselves. And
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: again that's why I do this research. So thank you
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: all for watching. I truly appreciate it, and like I
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: like to always say, keep searching for the truth. It's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: out there. Keep asking those hard questions because if you don't,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: who will. And most important, keep having fun, because if
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: you're not having fun, what are you doing? All Right, guys,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: thanks again, I'll see you next Friday. You have a
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: good weekend.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: Well take thumbs for them that night.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 11: It's for to be thunsful.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: East side the.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: One broad Careena no read.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: It's hard to know And you had a big spot
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: that bellow Young County about the right points up under
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: like triple the night year shining down?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 14: Did you see any sort of structure of the object of.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: Something the way it was triangular.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: Sure, so the thing we saw in the newspaper the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: other day week the thing that you described, but I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't see if there's like I think with any
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: exservative bay Run.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: Has a off two tree or uh, Newton Grove police
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 9: officer drew in.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 13: This the exact exact same thing that you say that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 13: I saw that the high far aways newt and grow
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 13: from you.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 11: It's what were you were whereas you can grow.
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  Speaker 2: The groove is about what eighty miles from eighty miles
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  Speaker 2: is a county where you went to the new story.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 11: Uh, you brought some lad you saw we.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 6: Would go all I didn't see the bag outstirts and.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 7: See that it was far away from you would have
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 7: been you recommend it, say, you know or f two
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 7: hundred dollars two three hundred door.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 11: Or something the what over the roadway or off the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 11: off the lot?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Did you stop the car?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah and shut it off?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 7: And alright now did you hear any sound food and
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: you know understands then?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 11: And did that uh make you looking bit curious about.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 7: What you were looking at?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 12: Or did Yeah, it made it securious yeah, and it
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 12: was it moving in itself.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: Now when it when it kid moved, he didn't move
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 7: on fast, but it was just slowing time.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 6: It was going really had How long.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: Would it have been hungered when they were looking at
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: the well when my first scout glimpse of it fall
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: from the distance and I tried to get that closer
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 11: When I first stopped the car and got out, it
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 11: stood there far.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: I get you when it worked five inside of the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: area where they didn't say real long what I saw
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: finished like that or just didn't live away.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: And I'll say it move away, but it was very good.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 6: Go the hors off position.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 10: What do you think it was?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 7: I mean it was it was.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: It couldn't have been an air.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 11: Tra I don't work so so what color was just
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 11: playing on the touch that it was a right? U?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 7: That's the the FRONTI yeah, it just it just come
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 7: up and just turnt like that.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 14: You were you in the car any the whole time it?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 7: Did you whbout the cart all to get out the seat?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I stop got out and walked to me.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: Or you don't turn light over about you got bootball
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: when you got in the.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: Ship play that did you know that you did?
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Uh huh?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: Never voted sound at all?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 7: And did this thing has any kind of light or deep?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: Like an announcement in orders?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: You could see not siding down that place?
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Is that out front of it just like an airplane?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 14: You know?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: Was it what was it pul seating at all?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: Or was it a constant lay? It burns they won't
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: link it ear, they won't ride on it, or that's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: what I think.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 6: It's awfully quiet.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: And yeah, how uh how big do you think the
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 11: thing was?
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: Could you estimate?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: Well, it was, I don't believe it was quite as
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: big as a small air cripro Still Stanton said, it's the.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 7: Eaven think as much better than.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: His car, the right they it looked a little bigger
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: than the car.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the alt car and the uh s I said
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 7: right here on seven p.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: Twenty seven. Uh, I mean it was coming right.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Down there, straight down this rooge gym uh huh. And
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: he got here about the three year old one he
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: crossed out ninety five.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: It just turned went back and turned went back toward
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: piss today and.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: And yes, and that's probably when uh hill sart as
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: it was passing that way.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it it turned there it was coming down.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: I said, nine hadn't stop the sun on uh three
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: year one?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: He coming right up with Well it was with a.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Telephone pot they got right about the there's a telephone
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: boat right here on three or one in the next
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: to down here. It just comes rut straight towards that wa.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 7: It just turned like it.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: M could you see what it was laid out?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: You could tell that about what you lad You could
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: see the shape of the up yeah, you could tell
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: it was in uh D shape right? See how many
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: colored lights were together? Hes A lot of our family.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: The lights on the hip they cause was there were
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: one down two and originally U red and red and.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Rain and then uh right like the three h thirty
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: and the course just had rotten by in front of it.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: A lot of them was the one N trusts or
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: just a just like a headlight on the autible fill
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: the shining un straight down in front. Yeah huh now
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: somebody said they seen one shining down, but I ain't
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: never seen them.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: How long did this strain from the tummy sitter to
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: uh well, now from the time I sand and getting
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: after the highway and know it was about eight fenies
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: today and then whenever it turned and started back to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: his bed more.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: But that's when we got an autimus there.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: We started off and we did just.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: Sitting there about nine it was outside of it.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: And then he started picking up the steed and I
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: got it there a hundred niggas lick and we if
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: the army hall showed me where they got something like
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: that and show me how to ticked it and sing
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: the maye, then I'll see that's what it was.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: And I wan't see it, and you you ain't go everything.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: Oh I had these little lights.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these little lights around okay, and and these little
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: knights around here, okay, and look cold they're all the
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: same of they all well, they was real.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: Degree, they were eperiend it was different.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 11: Coaches, Now, when you were watching it, did did they
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 11: seem to uh go on and off or where they
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: put assert?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: They didn't link them, That's what I say.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 11: They just sat there and link it up.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: I just wish he'd lamb like you get through it
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: to see why to you, But it didn't, thank me,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: and bid did at the bank.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: I could have seen him that you could, but it
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: just turned it.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 9: It was a bright light on amber life and you
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 9: know this was the appeared to be a tree top level.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 9: I was observe it through the NCYS, uh Dad looking well,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 9: I would describe it. I was traveling south and I
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 9: was looking more like a northeast to lake east to
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 9: lay direction. And this bright white the amber light was
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 9: a lamanite hole. It was illumini in the parameter. If
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 9: there were it was so pray. If there was any
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 9: running loss along the paramature of it, it was drowning
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 9: them out where they were blood the tree level.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: This was the same.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 9: About a minute and a half after four I saw
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 9: it and roll about roller.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: In the city placement.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 9: Put your fifth team between them miles south of those
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 9: or a minute and a half after I saw it
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 9: by an office or flank fars ten ount or more,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 9: and they were they were describing example the same time
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 9: that so.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: So they let me give a fifty five mile out
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: where I'm un that job was running about. I was
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: running about fifty little fifty five one when it came
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: down the old just the way back there. It was dark,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: and uh the old fast side the regular lit up
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: and it's like it was daylight. And Station one were
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: all right here now where I'm at right now, and.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: I drive along.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: It's a father, a part couple brothers about three hundred
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: yards and I drive along the head and I fell
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: over and I stopped stalking about ole car, got out
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: and looked up with the dad and the lot was abroud.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: I had had to look back and uh. I reached
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: back in the car and I got my thus knockers
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: I had in the car, and I looked up at it,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 5: and then I take him on. I got a airplane,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: uh landing life. I I cared my floor car and
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: I shined in that fat him and I think a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 5: lot at it ith Uh it flung back. I take
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 5: another look at it. We look at it as a knocker.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Then it moved at a western and small way at
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: the west Ford, Rumberton. And as it moved away from me,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: I fabab it. Uh about six miles the.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 11: Drive went out of side a lot. How fast from
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 11: you shut your left im?
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: I got up lady five brut at nine a and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: uh they.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 11: Walked through they left about how it was at this time.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: He had time and they they done went up in
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: their fact up about or away about I'd say, and
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: well when it left me. He had to start with
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: after how they fast the line? I fast lot on
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: it went like that straight up in there, and then
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: when I moved down about it if there was a
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 5: good two hundred mile live because it just walked wat
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: right for me.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 11: See when you first deserved the dodger, did it come
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: from any particular direction or did it ride in the
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 11: street line?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: And they come right down over right down on the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 5: top rother and like I said, hid the car.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 11: And I stop pull over, ye cause you when you
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 11: shut got to you.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 5: Five two hundred feet, then you didn't get a good
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: look at it. And I found a good look at it.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 11: He wanted to described the the class for me.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: He was a beef b shape had lit allow all
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: the way around it with the the big lot s
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: looks to be about the side of uh. Several rides
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: of fro staying why of a card from time down
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: the main.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 11: Of the lot they put light up.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: It was about I say, or at least five hundred
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 5: feet on most five grade. It just lit up there
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: on circle. I say, did it make any sound though
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: out of fit and anything that did it at any time?
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: Just stopping Herboru and red there just this one time
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: that it stop while I would stopped. His stay stopped
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: about five minutes. So you don't think it could have
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: been in yet or you ain't.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 11: Kind of exact why that.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: Jed can't part and ask where Jack can partner has
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: Actually Jed can't fight two hundred feet. He he he
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: can't fight two hundred feet to start with. Get pick
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: the freeze off.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 11: So you are positive it wanting any kind of conventional aircraft, then.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: It was nothing, No, it was nothing, No ruh aircraft.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 5: You no, no ruh. Now that we have r I
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: I saw a lot of that, but I've never donnything
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: like that. And it was not a ALI copter. If
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: it's been a ALI coopt I was if people saw
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: they are for Amazon. So don't I what cause a
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: blinking light at it? I'd think if it were some one,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: if if some one in it, if they'd blinking back
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: at it.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 10: I was headed a south only eleven sixty six, which
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 10: is near my home. In fact, I was on my
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 10: way to have lunch or suffer when we spouted the
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: craft to the east northeast. I immediately gave pursuit and
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 10: soon over took the craft. It hovered along beside the
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 10: roadway props one hundred yards away. As it was dark,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: I stepped outside of the vehicle and with my right
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 10: arm took the right switch and switched the light on
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 10: and off, and sure enough I got a response from
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 10: the front headlight or a spot light from the vehicle.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 11: The vehicle, having two spot lights on it went on
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 11: the front.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: Went on the back.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 10: It then proceed to move in a southwesterly direction and
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 10: I turned around to give pursuit again sittinglong side of
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 10: the craft as disappeared behind trees. I must say this
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 10: that I did get within one hundred yards of the
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 10: craft and was able to get to signal back to me.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 11: With its front head light being a hundred yards away.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 10: There's no possibility that it could have been mistaken for
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 10: a tail of the aircraft, for any other man made aircraft.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 10: For that matter, I have never seen anything like it before. Well.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 8: We were on Philodeath Road, headed north and just driving
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: along into an ordinary speed, and I was driving the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: car and I was the first one to see it.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: I observed on what I thought to be five big
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: lights for I would say or gift to be about
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 8: one hundred feet in the air and the moment I
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 8: focused my eyes on it appeared that they were maybe
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 8: going at a feat of about fifty miles an hour,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: and then they speed it up like one hundred miles
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 8: an hour. And I went to telling my wife and
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 8: two daughters to look, Uh, let's see those lights, and
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 8: they did. And momentary that I take my eyes back
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 8: off of them to make a turn, a right hand turn,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 8: and my wife and daughter they kept their eyes focused
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 8: on it and they observed it going. It was in
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 8: a downward position, light headed towards the ground, and uh,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: we followed it, and it went down behind a house,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 8: and I would say, uh, sixteen to twenty four inch
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: streak behind 'em, behind each one of them. I couldn't
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 8: determine if there was smoked, but it didn't appear to
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: be smoked behind each one of 'em. It didn't even
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: look like a flame. It was just a beautiful streak
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 8: behind each one of 'em. And we had church at
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: six point thirty, and it was fire fifteen at that time,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: and I thought the time we could get home and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 8: get dressed, uh, it would be time for church. But
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 8: obviously we run into something wet. Didn't anticipate running into Uh.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: These people, they don't tell you every If come up
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: with any kind of the story, it's gotta be something
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 8: that uh excite you whenever you see something like this.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 8: I really don't think they at any time the trees
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 8: even bothered them. I think they were high up enough,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: and I think that they were in a position to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: totally miss the trees in the house that we talked about.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: The big light in the center of it, and that
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: light is as right as these things that I have
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: never seen you right as uh, I don't know. I've
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: never seen a light as about it. I've seen sort
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: of lights were on their force, right, but I've never
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: seen a light about it. Is that things were that
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: might shine. It was shining right down the ward of
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: the ground.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 7: Okay. And what color we were all these ways?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: Jimper color lights. There was blue lights, there were red lights.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: There's an old Dipper color lights on me. He just
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: had a little sound on whatsoever?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 7: Now, how did you determine that way?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: Did you go outside and I.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: Was sitting here, I was sitting in the building. You
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: ever know ue anything that with that did back.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 14: In the bit?
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 9: Did you go out at all just to see if
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 9: you could get with a close and look at it.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I went outside there, and uh, I couldn't
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 13: hear a thing on It was on a little system
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 13: right there. If there's any noise at all out here
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 13: to pick it there, really, h he'll pick it up.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 13: An automobile cross that bridge down yonder even want a
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 13: word to buy down the back of that plant, now,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 13: you know that would pick it there, right?
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 15: You mean you cut microphones set up over there that
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 15: the pick us up and didn't chance to the sounds
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 15: back there, right.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: I just walked right out here on his driveway.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 12: Yeah, when I thought the thing, where was the carry
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 12: from you? He came from back in here in order
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 12: to see this ninety five highways back in here, and
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: so up to me, they traveled that ninety five hours.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 8: Huh uh huh.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 12: They come across here, raise a canal right down here
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 12: at the back of this plant down here. Yeah, and
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 12: I saw where.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: He was at.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 12: He just was to above the treetops. I thought he
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 12: was touching the treetop. Yeah, no sound so what so well, No,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 12: he came out and down here and it just looked
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 12: like it just come up there and stopped there for
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 12: a little bit of a I was right over the
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 12: building over here, well right where it was corner by
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  Speaker 12: the corner this building. We see a lighting on that
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  Speaker 12: front office. Yeah, he would just be run hit over
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  Speaker 12: there right. He looked like he just came up there
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  Speaker 12: and stopped and uh set down a little bit, and
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  Speaker 12: then he started the moving up and over and the
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  Speaker 12: I never seen nothing of move like the move. A
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  Speaker 12: airplane can't come up there and do that, uh a
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  Speaker 12: helicopter in either one without me hearing it.
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  Speaker 7: That Telly, what happened when uh, when the lights went out?
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  Speaker 7: Where was that?
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  Speaker 6: It happened two knights.
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  Speaker 12: That thing come that close to two different nights, on
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  Speaker 12: uh Tuesday night and Wednesday nights. At both times it
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  Speaker 12: came from the same direction and it went back close
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  Speaker 12: to the same directions as it came from. All of
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  Speaker 12: these lights here on the front of the plant.
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  Speaker 6: There were that's the lights.
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  Speaker 12: That one night there one, two, three, four, five five lights.
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  Speaker 7: And now where are these lights powered from?
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  Speaker 14: Like I are they powered by the same sort that
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  Speaker 14: these lights over here am lights?
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  Speaker 12: So those are down here where these they still burning,
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  Speaker 12: they were still on, they were still on.
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  Speaker 14: Those was out and yet they were all powered by
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  Speaker 14: the same ar.
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  Speaker 12: That's right.
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  Speaker 6: The lights see down as long as that thing was
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  Speaker 6: olver down there, and uh when.
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  Speaker 12: It left it, uh, the lights came back on. I said,
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  Speaker 12: at least five minutes they were oppen.
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  Speaker 6: But it was just as plaint as this. Obviously.
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  Speaker 15: You got your hand here, Yeah, sitting right out right there,
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  Speaker 15: get a hand. The men touching the tree drops that.
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  Speaker 12: It didn't miss much. Sure that was right down on him.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was gonna plane. I already heard it. Uh helicopter.
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  Speaker 12: Uh it comes up there and stop the it's gonna
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  Speaker 12: make a noise.
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  Speaker 5: It it's gone.
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  Speaker 6: Motors got to run to hold it up down there.
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  Speaker 12: And that thing did not have no noise whatsoever,