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#643 - DJ Paul Talks Three 6 Mafia Legacy, Pimp C Stories, Drake, Bone Thugs Verzuz, New Music & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is your boy, DJ Paul Kowen represent that three
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  Speaker 1: SIXS mafia. Check me out the Bootleg cav podcast.
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  Speaker 2: the interview, yo, Bootleg Cavs show Man. We got a
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  Speaker 2: special guest in here, a legend, you know him, DJ
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  Speaker 2: Paul in the building.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? What's up?
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  Speaker 2: What's Ulcome? Welcome, Welcome, you are definitely a legend. One
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent?
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  Speaker 1: What made what makes a personal legend?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I would say catalog influence, uh impact, talent?
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  Speaker 2: I think you know. I was just I was just
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  Speaker 2: having this conversation the other day because I knew you
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  Speaker 2: were coming, and I was telling my buy I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, DJ Paul is like, damn, You're like, I know, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: gets a lot of flowers for being like the rapper
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  Speaker 2: producer guy. But I'm like, DJ Paul is the one
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  Speaker 2: for real.
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  Speaker 1: I try, man, I try to put diverse my portfolio.
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  Speaker 2: New album, Go of All Goats. Yeah, man, you feel
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  Speaker 2: that way about yourself naming the album go to All
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  Speaker 2: Gats man?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I do you know the reason why I
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  Speaker 1: named it that is because a lot of people out here,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of fans out here that
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  Speaker 1: artists that they look.
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  Speaker 2: Up to look up to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Like so I was like, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not better than this dude, but I'm like somebody
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  Speaker 1: who this dude is a fan of. You know, Like
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  Speaker 1: if you look into the eminem book, the book that
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  Speaker 1: them wrote, yeah, he got like a page on that
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  Speaker 1: that shows all of the his kind of influence, like
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  Speaker 1: his raps and scrap books and this and that, and
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  Speaker 1: he got a CD that I produced in that.
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  Speaker 2: Book on which city was It's a little white CD.
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  Speaker 2: Oh shout a little white man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout a little white And I was like, damn, look,
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  Speaker 1: eminem is listening to a little.
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  Speaker 2: White Who would have thought?
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  Speaker 1: Who would have all?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, shouts a little white man. Very dope artist, still
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  Speaker 2: doing this thing.
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  Speaker 1: Too, Yes for making an album on him another one.
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  Speaker 1: But but I was like, you know, like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these a lot of these guys I made, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like from you know, anybody you know, like the Migos
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  Speaker 1: or anybody like man, I grew up on your music
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  Speaker 1: and my parents used to listen to your music. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel a little old by that, but I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: What I always would tell people too, is like I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to I always wanted to ask you this. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: kick an interview off. Were talking about influence, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: little John got a lot of credit for kicking off
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  Speaker 2: whatever you would consider crunk music and the chanting. But
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  Speaker 2: you guys, to me, were the real creators of that
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  Speaker 2: sub genre of hip hop.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well of course we did.
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  Speaker 2: We created like that was y'all's thing, Like I bet
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  Speaker 2: you like that was y'all's thing. Like when you guys
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  Speaker 2: saw like John like taking it, you know, and obviously
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  Speaker 2: kind of I mean, he's the crunk guy now right,
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  Speaker 2: Like he's got crunk juice and all this, But at
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  Speaker 2: that time, you guys were a little kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: were you guys feeling some type of like damn, like
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of our ship low key.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it pushed me to want to get a record
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  Speaker 1: deal independent. I was cool with being independent, but then
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  Speaker 1: I was like, shit, if we don't get a record
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  Speaker 1: deal and get this out to the masses, like people,
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  Speaker 1: just everybody else will take the credit for us and
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  Speaker 1: and we they never know that we had anything to
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  Speaker 1: do with it, right, you know, like shout out to John.
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  Speaker 2: The greatest, by the way, one of the best guys ever.
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  Speaker 1: He's a personal friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: And another one of those guys who we don't talk
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  Speaker 2: about enough about. How incredible overproducer is this the same
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  Speaker 2: guy who did blow the whistle and tell me how
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  Speaker 2: to go?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so lo John took it to a whole other level.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. You know, we created love,
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  Speaker 1: John took it put its own spin on it because
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  Speaker 1: Lo John Beast was different than us.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. It was the chanting, it was the chance.
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  Speaker 1: So he took it to a whole eleven and he helped.
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  Speaker 1: He helped us in a way because he helped, you know,
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  Speaker 1: build the whole, the whole thing of krunk.
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  Speaker 2: because you guys come into the game independent juggernauts, right.
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  Speaker 2: I remember there being I remember there was like two
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  Speaker 2: separate ads and the Source or double xls. Back in
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  Speaker 2: the day, there would be like the Loud Records Official Project,
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  Speaker 2: and then there would be like the Hypnotized Minds, whatever
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  Speaker 2: side albums y'all had going at the time, the Triple
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  Speaker 2: six Mafia, because there'd be the Triple six shit and
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  Speaker 2: then there was the three six shit. Yeah, which I'm
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  Speaker 2: assuming was your guys as little loophole that like double
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  Speaker 2: up looking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, man, just it might be, you know, till
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  Speaker 1: the smartest dudes in the music industry, but with that one.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we was making sounding so much money
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  Speaker 1: that they didn't they didn't care that we was putting
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  Speaker 1: out these little side projects. You know, well, I put
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  Speaker 1: out an hour album. We put out an album through
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  Speaker 1: Sony and it would go platinum, you know, sell million copies.
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  Speaker 1: And then we put our Triple six to Mafia with
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  Speaker 1: different songs independent at you know, nine dollars a unit
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  Speaker 1: and that'll sell to three four hundred times.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are what what was that independent distributor? You're
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  Speaker 2: going to select hits?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, still for some stuff. Yeah, So yeah, that's so.
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  Speaker 2: Back then, you guys were getting the major label money
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  Speaker 2: from the Three six Mafia albums, Yeah, but the side
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  Speaker 2: stuff you So, I don't think people understand like the
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  Speaker 2: scale of how the music industry has changed, because back
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  Speaker 2: then you'd have to go to Sam Goodie and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of times you pay like eighteen ninety nine for
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  Speaker 2: an album, like a Triple six Mafia.
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  Speaker 1: Album, the cheapest was sixteen ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So you guys are getting nine bucks in pocket
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  Speaker 2: or so off each one of us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah for the independent stuff, and you
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  Speaker 1: guys were running it up. Yeah. It was doing three
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  Speaker 1: four hundred thousand copies on this one, three four hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand on this one, that on nine dollars. You know, man,
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  Speaker 1: it was crazy crazy.
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  Speaker 2: What at that point in time were you guys. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: I know you guys had your guys' bouts with substances
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  Speaker 2: and all of none of that stuff is a secret,
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  Speaker 2: But were you guys stacking bread in the nineties when
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  Speaker 2: you guys were on that run, Like.
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  Speaker 1: We wasn't drugheads like that, right, Like, we wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: dudes that sent up and spent all of our money
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  Speaker 1: on drugs. Like my best friend, Get High Chris was.
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  Speaker 2: A crazy name, Get Hi Chris.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knows get high Chris. They talked about him on
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  Speaker 1: a million songs like he was he was my best
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  Speaker 1: friend growing up since fourth grade and he was the guy, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was the guy. So he just came
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  Speaker 1: over my house. I was the only one, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in our neighborhood at the time that had a house
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  Speaker 1: because you know, like I was, I was a celebrity,
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  Speaker 1: I was a rapper. Yeah, so I always had like
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  Speaker 1: a house or an apartment or something that we could
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  Speaker 1: hang out with and hang out, and he just would
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  Speaker 1: come over there with it and I never bought it. Right,
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  Speaker 1: it was best.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't like you guys were like over here supporting
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  Speaker 2: like some crazy habit with your guys is like.
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  Speaker 1: Getting everybody was getting. Man, when you a celebrity, the
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  Speaker 1: drugs is the last thing you gotta worry about.
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  Speaker 2: I try to tell people now it's like I get
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  Speaker 2: I get so much free weed now. Yeah, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember last time. I remember last time I
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  Speaker 2: bought marijuana.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, you ain't gotta bad, You ain't got a bad.
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  Speaker 1: They gonna throw it on stage. They're gonna get you
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  Speaker 1: to have people just want to, you know, hang out
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  Speaker 1: and they gonna bring it so like, yeah, we we
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  Speaker 1: were saving our money and we was we was real
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  Speaker 1: smart with that money because we wasn't we wasn't drug
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  Speaker 1: heads like that.
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  Speaker 2: We wasn't crack at that time. Like, uh, Memphis doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have the infrastructure and the like today when we think
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  Speaker 2: about Memphis, it's like one of the hot beds of
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  Speaker 2: hip hop, you know, and you know back in the
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  Speaker 2: day it was you guys, it was a ball. It
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  Speaker 2: was m j G. It was there was obviously another
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  Speaker 2: thing going on then, what was the because you guys
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  Speaker 2: built an independent infrastructure that rivaled what was happening in
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  Speaker 2: the Bay that was you know, rivaled with like guys
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  Speaker 2: like The Limit were doing. What was that? Can you
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  Speaker 2: just kind of cause you guys go from doing stuff
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  Speaker 2: like mystic styles right to get in the sony situation.
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  Speaker 2: What was it that kind of caught I guess caught
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  Speaker 2: traction that got you guys into that like major label
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  Speaker 2: world where you guys were able to actually get major distribution.
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  Speaker 1: It was because independent album came out and then the
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  Speaker 1: second three since my album it came out and did
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  Speaker 1: so good. It was the an album you know and.
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  Speaker 2: Leed Man, that's was that a that's one of those
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  Speaker 2: nineties covers that sticks out. Yeah, Penn and Pixel yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that album came out and it did, uh.
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  Speaker 1: It debuted on Billboard pretty high. I can't remember where
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  Speaker 1: it debuted at, and I think it debuted like number
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  Speaker 1: thirty or forty on Billboard, you know, independent. And then know,
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  Speaker 1: Sony gave us a call, but we had already sent
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  Speaker 1: that album to Sony. We was trying to get a
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  Speaker 1: record deal, and they had told us no, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because they didn't didn't nobody understand that music back then, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so they told us no. We were like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, So we put it out on our own and.
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  Speaker 2: And it did what it did.
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  Speaker 1: It did what it did, and then they called us back.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, when they called us back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I would say I wanted more money. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I would have did it for us, but
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  Speaker 1: now they does.
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  Speaker 2: You guys had this like brand that was always supers
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  Speaker 2: like mysterious. It was like obviously the hypnotized mind ship,
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  Speaker 2: but you guys are also like the profit ship and
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: and all that was all that like pretty on purpose,
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  Speaker 2: like intentional your guys's brand. I mean, you guys brand
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  Speaker 2: was low key spooky back in the day. Yeah, what's
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  Speaker 2: up with these guys?
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  Speaker 1: And that's just what we were just into. We were
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  Speaker 1: just into like spooky Ship, into serial killers and you
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  Speaker 1: know all of that stuff. So, you know, we were
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  Speaker 1: just into that.
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  Speaker 2: Chapter two is the first album that comes out through Sony.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: From there, I feel like it was kind of off
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  Speaker 2: to the races, right, like that's ninety seven.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and then you know, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Just approaching almost thirty years, right, twenty nine years since
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  Speaker 2: that that that came out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a long time ago, man, Yeah, but it was
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  Speaker 1: it was fun, you know what I'm saying. I know
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  Speaker 1: now just doing my own thing and the ears was
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  Speaker 1: fun and those are behind us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. I mean you've also I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: i mean your solo catalog is insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm starting to put a little more
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  Speaker 1: a little more into that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I remember what was the album he dropped?
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  Speaker 2: It was like one of the albums I really fucked
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  Speaker 2: was the Skeleton or Skeleton?
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  Speaker 1: Yea great album?
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  Speaker 2: Was that like twenty eleven?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like now right before the mixtape Shit went crazy? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was like that mixtape Ship was that was.
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  Speaker 2: Like right before the blog era really got crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the mixtape era. You know, it helped
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  Speaker 1: a lot of artists obviously, like helped the new artists
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  Speaker 1: and help the new artists, but the older artists.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to sell my ship.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're selling you about about it. It was a
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  Speaker 1: It was a I was over Quincy Jones house Rest
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  Speaker 1: of the Peace, Quincy Jones. Quincy Jones was a good
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  Speaker 1: friend of mine and I was over Quincy Jones house
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  Speaker 1: in like two thousand and seven. Uh, and uh he
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: was like, he's like, you know, pretty He was like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: pretty soon, let me turn itround. I start over. This
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: phone never rings, by the way, it might be important,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: it's not important. It's just a text us. So, so
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  Speaker 1: the mixtape, the whole mixtape era. You know, I was
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  Speaker 1: over Quincy Jones house in like two thousand and seven,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and Quincy Jones was like, he
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, pretty soon we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: be giving away music. And I was like, I hope
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  Speaker 1: not that. She later two years later that shit man,
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  Speaker 1: these niggas were giving away albums like crazy. I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: like straight real album.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think about them away the first the first
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  Speaker 2: wolf project that popped in was Trunk Music, and that
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  Speaker 2: was a free mixtape. You know, Big Creep pop off
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  Speaker 2: a free album like Big Sean, like j Cole got
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  Speaker 2: two free ones that came out. Whiz you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. I used to give out free albums misic styles.
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  Speaker 2: I went to Atlantan Gay that album for free. Now
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  Speaker 2: understand that.
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  Speaker 1: On the internet, it's like, yeah, it was handed somebody
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  Speaker 1: a couple of dudes at a bar, right, Yeah, It's like, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's one hundred y'alls and I'm gonna give ten of
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: y'all one and hopefully the other ninety I go by,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: but you know, just blasting out, and I was like, god, damn.
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  Speaker 1: I fell back. I made that Skeleton album. It did
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  Speaker 1: really good. It was the end of people of buying
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  Speaker 1: physical CDs at that time, and you know, it did
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  Speaker 1: really good. I think I did like three hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: conference or whatever on that. And then I fell back.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm out, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: giving away free music.
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  Speaker 2: Did that kind of like make push you into like
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: other interests.
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  Speaker 1: Or were you like, yeah, it pushed me into man, thanks,
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  Speaker 1: great question. Yes it did. It pushed me into real estate,
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  Speaker 1: and I stopped buying real estate, like crazy, I own
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  Speaker 1: nineteen properties. Now I just stopped buying a town of
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: real estate because.
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  Speaker 2: You had all that money. Fuck nine dollars of CD.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. I just I just stopped buying real estate.
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  Speaker 1: And in twenty ten I got I got into the
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  Speaker 1: restaurant scene.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, tough scene. By the way, I owned a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the easiest style.
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  Speaker 1: It's not. It's not.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like they'd be like, yo, the margins are
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  Speaker 2: crazy on this food until you realize, like, running a
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  Speaker 2: restaurant fucking sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, It's a lot. It was a love I got one.
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  Speaker 1: Now I only got one, you know, but if I
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: got in, I started that. There was like twenty ten.
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  Speaker 1: I started dibbling and dabbling with that whole day made
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: the reality show.
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  Speaker 2: Reality show was a hit.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but this was another reality show. You're talking about
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Adventures in HollyHood. But in twenty ten we did one
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  Speaker 1: called Famous Food on VH one.
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  Speaker 2: I think I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, with the celebrities. We was opening up the restaurant.
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  Speaker 1: So I opened up that restaurant. I won that restaurant
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  Speaker 1: RD on that show. There was some other guys and
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: opened up that restaurant. It was just a party house,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you know. We had to close that down after about
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: seven months. And then twenty fifteen, five years later, me
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: and some of the guys on that project got together
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: and we found a property on Rodale Drive. And Rodale
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Drive don't really have restaurants on it, you know, it's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: not for the shopping yep. So my guys like, hey,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: y'all want to put a restaurant here, and I'm like,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: hell yeah, and then ya open. Yeah it's still open
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: in three years now.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Oh that's congrats man.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Hideaway on Rodale Drive fortuenty one Rodale Drive
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: to Hideaway. So it took us forever to open it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: We started on twenty fifteen. We were supposed to open
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: in like February of twenty twenty. Then the pandemic hit
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: and then Beverly Hills was giving us a bunch of issues.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: This kind of floor, this kind.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Of wall, of course, of course.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like this don't fit the aesthetics of Beverly
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Hills and this wood don't go.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I can imagine it's like having like a really shitty
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: uh way.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: But it was a blessing though, you know what I'm saying.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: It was a blessing because with them giving us shit
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: made us not be able to open in twenty twenty anyway, Right,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: so then the pandemic.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Because the pandemic might have washed y'all out.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have watched it out. We would have
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: been open before she had rent On Rodeo Drive would
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: have been done. Yeah, So it was a blessing in
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the skies when we opened up after and uh they
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: had the restaurant is popping. You know, Sophia of the Gars.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: When I've been in the Spiders.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Sofia.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Super hot.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: She's a legend.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: She is a super legend.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: You've had this. You have like these like relationships with
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: certain people or crews in hip hop that are just
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like iron clad, Like you and Yellow Wolf have to
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: slum Mafia thing. That Blackfall ep. By the way, I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: think that's some of your best production.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that ship is four songs, but Jesus shout out
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: the team.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I wish that ship was on I don't think it's
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: on Spotify. You got to go find that ship on
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: YouTube or something. Because you were sampling like all kinds
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: of rock ship on there, even if you think all
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: the way back to like when the smoke clears your
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: you got a record on there with three six Spaffe
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: and Twisted.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Clo.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: That's what I meant to say. You are c P
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: and and twisted.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the ICP but my voice.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your guys like, because what is it
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: about the Juggalo subculture that because you've done gathering of
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: the Juggalos, you guys have always worked together. What is
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: it about kind of that Juggalo subculture of music that
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: is kind of clicked with DJ Paul and the three
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: six fans.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: It's just because of it's because of the Juggalos. First
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: of all, they're fun. You know, I love doing the festival.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Juggler myself. I love them, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: it's just the whole because I grew up on rock music, right,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: so they just give me a rock field, you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: like you can tell I CP it grew up on
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of rock as well, so there was that.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: They just give me that whole rock field. Doing the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: fast and doing that. It's the closest that I get.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Now I do rock festivals, yeah for sure. Vals Now
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you know, we just started doing that maybe two years ago.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But and we got another one coming up, a big one,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this ship. But that was the closest thing to me
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: feeling like a woodstock or some of these old events
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that I festivals that I grew up watching as a
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: kid that I wish.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You would hear all kind of crazy stories about, like
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: a drug bridge or like a gang bang tent or.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. I've been on the drug bridge. I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't getting high, just just chill.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: But there's like a bridge. Everyone just goes to get
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the bridge. Yeah, and it's all on private property, so
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it's like you can really just do what every fun
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah everything, man, people don't be on that. Man, it's wild.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Girls be walking around naked all over the place like
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it ain't nothing.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And it's like funny because you'll see like certain people
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: will agree to do the show and not kind of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like know what they're signing up for all Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they don't know. And then like some people have gotten
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: either boot off or shit. I think there was like
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: that Tila Tequila chick.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they got messed up. I was dead
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: at night. I didn't see that they were throwing down.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: You got them pretty messed up. Man, that was crazy. Yeah,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: you just gotta you gotta know what you getting into. Like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: they don't. They don't mean no harm. Bay, you know,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they're just gonna throw stuff at you. But a lot
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• 20:13
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• 20:16
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• 20:20
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• 21:47
  Speaker 2: We mentioned a little White a little bit earlier. Can
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  Speaker 2: you kind of you know White, somebody who I feel
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: like doesn't get talked about enough in terms of just
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: he's an incredible artist. But you know, I know you
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: were a on the early stages of seeing like Jelly
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Roll as a rapper. You guys, he's got a hypnotized
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Minds tattoo. I don't know if people know that or not.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Jelly I believe he does under his shirt.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: That's fine. I didn't check that out.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty I'm about one hundred percent probably do.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I've seen Jelly without a shirt a few times. I
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: mean not not, not just because I've been on the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: tour bus with him, like before.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Uh, can you kind of speak to like, you guys
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: just did a tour run with him and a couple
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of years ago, and he's always very vocal about what
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: you guys have meant to his come up, Like, can
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you just kind of speak to what it was like
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: seeing this whole kind of transition from him being like
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: an underground Tennessee rapper to one of the biggest stars
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, he's huge. Basically, what happened with that was
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a little white discovered Jelly Roll. I don't know how
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: he how he discovered but some kind of way he
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: discovered him. If I had to take a guess, I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: would be like, you know, obviously jail Roll probably was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and a little white.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was like that, like kind of underground
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: white boy stack. Jelly a Little.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: White got in touch with each other or whatever, and
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and Little White brought him to me and Juicy and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Project Patton. He was like, man, you know these dudes, Uh,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: these dudes are hard. Like it was Jelly. We put
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: together this group called Snow s n Oh and it
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: was Jelly, a Little White, and a guy named b
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Peg from Indiana, Rest of Peach BPG and and men.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Juicy flew to Memphis and we did that album on
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: them and me and Jelly just got really really close
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: because we had some some street some street ship passes
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: that that that lined together. We knew some of the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: same people. So me and Jelly got really really close.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And man, we made a great album. Man, you know
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Great albums the O of the day.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Jelly is like one of my boy boys. Love him.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like sometimes people forget like because now
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: he's like a you know, like a pop star, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: like Grandma's level. But sometimes I'd be like, people forget
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: this guy's from the streets like he did like hard times,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: like street street.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Jee's a game banger. He was like he was he
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: was from the street street, you know, like you see
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it and his old stuff. But you know, like that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was why I really loved Jelly so much, because he
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: he was coming in the studio like I play a
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: beat or Juicey Player beat or whatever, and he would
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: be singing these hooks were so much soul, but he'd
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: be talking about some street ship and I was like,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, no, no white dude in the game
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: that's doing that right now. Like I could think of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: some black dudes doing whatever, you know, like you know
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: my guy with death Row, Rest in Peace, uh Nate
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Dogg all thatver. But I didn't know nobody a white
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: rapper that was delivering soul street ship, and I knew
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Jella was gonna blow up. You know. I wish, I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: wish we would have just, you know, put more more
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: into into him and you know, made another project. I'm
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: just him.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: But I feel like I feel like his journey made
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: it possible, like he kind of had to go through
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: all of the things he had to go through.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: To like yeah, yeah, we couldn't. We couldn't have put
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: him where he at now. We could have, obnoestly, we
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: could have made him big, right well, We couldn't have
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: put him where he at now. If anything, we probably
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: would have made it worse, you know, because it's probably
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: been more alcohol, more drugs, this and that he needed,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: he needed Bunny.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Bunny changed his life.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Bunny changed his life. Bonnie did something that I could
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: never do for sure.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she she definitely changes life. You saw, you
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: kind of saw like the you kind of saw it slowly,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, a lot of times artists need that,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you know, like it's only so much me as a
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: manager in a record label CEO can do for the artist.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Like I can be there in the studio with you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and guide you, but I can't go home with you
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and got you. And that's where the real mental situations
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: come in, and is when you leave the studio. Now
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that's the most important part. So if the home ain't
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the home ain't right, then you know, none of it
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: is going to be right?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Did you guys? Ever? Because I remember there were certain
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: artists when I was like coming up DJ and there'd
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: be certain songs that and I was I'm thirty nine,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: so like when I was doing clubs, it was twenty
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: years ago, nine, who So it was like me, that's
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: an ever after you guys, right, But I can imagine like, like,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: were you guys because you guys had the brand of
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: the being the tear of the club up thugs? Like
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: were clubs like let y'all in if Like I could
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: imagine if because I was in the club in scott
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Stale right now. Yeah, it's what eleven eleven. I've had
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Juicy there before, but Mina, next time you're in town,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: you gotta come. But I could like if somebody was like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: we're the tear of the club up thugs, I'd be like, Yo,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: we can't book that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. They used to put in our contract that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: we couldn't perform to the club up or they would
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: take money out of our back end.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Because can you I just could just imagine owning a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: club and somebody's performed club up.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, telling them to test that.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I bet you won't hit them up. I'm like, god damn.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But I would just I would just get the money
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: up front and uh and tell them I wouldn't do it,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and then you know, we perform it anyway and they
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: tell that motherfucker apart. Man.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Was that like a cause? I feel like, was that
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: like a pretty normal thing where like because I feel
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: like people don't understand like this before social media is
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: a thing nowadays, some ship like that happens to be
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: all over academics, you know, or or like yo, so
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: and so performed.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't happen.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Was there a lot of like was there a lot
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: of fights at your guys' club?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Guns man, tons tons fights, shoot out? I've seen a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: million motherfuckers get shot, you know me? And like I
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: saw a dude get shot one night in Mipigs. We
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: was performing at uh Club three eighty three, a bill
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that was a real popular club back then, and uh
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: uh crew guys got the fighting in the lobby and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you just and it was like I think it was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like a twenty two or something. You could really barely
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: hear it. But everybody started running and I thought everything
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: was done, and me and Lord was one in the bathroom.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: It was a dude up under the sink. He was
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: like he was under sink and he had been shot
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in his side. I think it went through his heart
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and he sat there on the sink. I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: went out, I ran out of the lobby. I was like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: hey man, it's a dude there dying and uh, yeah,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: he died. It was on news and everything. I've seen
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a ton of that. I saw somebody get shot three
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: rows in front of me and and uh in uh
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. That was three SI my fans, one one
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: twelve doing the show and we.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Got that's that's a crazy lineup.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Dude was R and B saying, and yeah, a motherfucker
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a dude who got shot right there in front of us.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know he got shot. I was still
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: on stage rapping, and my security guy picked me up
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: and saw.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I care, like we gotta go.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They're like, man, we gotta go. Somebody that got shot.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like what people was running. It was crazy.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Another classic that has been reworked, and it's like just
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: kind of now. It's like you you'd be crazy to
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: go to a club and not here to slob on
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: my knop. You want to talk about a song that
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: had like a second, third, fourth fifth life.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that song Forever Good Last Man.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: But it's crazy because like it's it's bigger now than
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it's ever been by far. Like one of them was
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: so funny. It's such a funny song. Were you guys,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: because back in the day, uh, you know, it was
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the idea of telling a girl to lick on your
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: butt when you guys were in the studio and that
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: line gets like recorded, is anybody like, well.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: The song had already been out, So this song was
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: already out on one of the Juicy's underground tapes, okay,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: and then you know, we we remade it for the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Tenny Club of Thugs album, you know, redid the beat
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and all that, and he rewrapped it and all that.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: So the song probably been out in the history of
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Memphis for a while, probably ten years, nine years or something, Yeah,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: because I think he wrote that in.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Like so it's just a fucking it's a really greater yeah.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the song had been around for a long
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: time and you know, like we were just redoing it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and then it just it went crazy because it was
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: already a big hit in Memphis.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: The Juicy version. Yeah, so you you guys redoing it
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: kind of just yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we redid that. Like songs that was real
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: popular on my solo tape or his solo tastes, we
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: redid them, put.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Them on the club.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Tenni Club was on mine, yeah, yeah, me and Lord,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it was tape we took that and then we took
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Slow and nine from him, and you know, to stop
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: putting together like that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's it's crazy, like just the amount of
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: like like when I said earlier we talked about influence.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: That's a song that I just saw a brand drop
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a Shrek style version of the skeleton t that Juicy's
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: wearing in the State Fly video like last week. I
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: saw it and.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I was I was like, the Supreme did one as well.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: But it was like instead of skeletons, it was Shreks.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But it was in the same style.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And I was like, check this, this shirt will not die.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And it was just a little cheap shirt that right that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: You probably got it the swap meet the Court like where.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: New York just some somewhere to the style is just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: found that shirt and just gave Juice of that shirt
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and their fucking shirt.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Blew up Jesus. That Yeah, it's it's it's crazy, man.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: So tell me for this new album, man, you have
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: got uh the snow of the product record that's dope.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Snow Who's somebody else? So I feel
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: like it doesn't get enough flowers. She's incredible.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Man, I love Snow. I've been working with Snow since
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. I met Snow when I lived
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: in Vegas. She came by my studio, my PR lady
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: at the time, and my big sister Dove brought her
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: back there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Do you know Chip the hat company? What was the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: hat company she used to work with?
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: She used to work with that one hat coming. Yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I can't remember.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: I remember she used to send me all kind of
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: fucking hats man.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: When I was living in Vegas, how Night's Fire, yea, she.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Would be down there for them convention from Magic Agenda
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: and all that shit. Yep, she brought She brought Snow
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to my studio. Then Snow was young and we did
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a song, We did a video and everything, a song
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: called on Their Raw. And I just always stayed in
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: touch with Snow. You know. We always you know, like
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: big brother, big sister, little sister type of thing. And
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: you know, she ended up moving out here, and you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and then I started going about her crib and you know,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: doing her her podcast.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: And she's incredible and her and her podcast is fun.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: They just have fun.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: She got the ranch going. You know what I'm saying
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: mini Ranch in the Valley A.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you living life, man, Living life?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: How long? Because there? Because you have a lot of
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: songs on it, which which is I love this because
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: it's very Uh. It reminds me of like old school
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: when you got twenty four songs on a fucking album.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: People would actually.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Did a post and I was like, how many songs
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: should I put on here? Some people are like eight,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: some people like twelve, Some people like twenty twenty plus. Man,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you haven't made an album seventy years plus plus, And
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I guess I go twenty four.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And then I made myself stop because I had more,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: but I was like, I save it for another project.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But but the twenty four flowed good. I felt it was.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It was good because it gave you a little of everything,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like like you said, snow and that song was totally different.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I had to put so
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: many songs, because I was trying different stuff on this album.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Now the beats on here, it was different stuff like
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the Snow is a reggae tone, crunk, my fusion fusion.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So you know, like I felt like if I give
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: them some so different, I gotta throw like an extra
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: two songs of my own style, of my original style
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: back on here, just a you know, a conversation for that,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you know. So that's why I put so many on
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that because I was trying different stuff.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: You and Freddy have an amazing chemistry that the pys
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: song on his album from a couple of years ago
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: is fucking incredible. He loves you. He's a lot of
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: people know that. Sorry. Fred's one of my best friends.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: So I know, like you guys, it would. He's done
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: full albums with Alchemists, He's done full albums with mad Lib.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like a DJ Paul fully produced Freddie Gibbs album.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: We're finna do it. We're finna do a Hypnotized Rabbit.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: That's the name of it.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Hypnotized Rabbit will be crazy.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: We're finna do it. We already in the process of
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: doing it's gonna be crazy.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: How many songs you guys got You think we.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Haven't recorded, No, but I got. I'm getting the Beast ready.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: I'm getting the Beast ready. I think he's going to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: go on tour, to go on on the on the
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: road spot days. But you know, in the process of it,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I'm be sending him stuff to get right while he
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: on the road, and I'll be doing the same.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Give him some of that dark shit you got man.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when we did the new song my new album,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to find Out, after we finished recording it, he said,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: motherfuckers think I can't rap ot no crunch shit. I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: can rab old crunk shit. I was like, yeah, of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: course you came, motherfucker. He was proud of that song. Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: No, it came out super dope, super dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You gotta check out the video to the video sick.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw saw the video shots to Freddy Freddy's. Uh,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Freddy's one of the ones. Man, hell bees you are?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Can you can? You kind of talk about too because
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: you've had this relationship for so long with young Buck,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: who obviously is from Nashville. He's on the new album,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but just that kind of I mean, we're going on
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: twenty years. Yeah, yeah, twenty three years. Since when did
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: State Flight come out? Two thousand and three, four five, five?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: But years was Buck was on the Smoke Claire's album Crazy,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: so was nineteen two thousand.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: So no it's two thousands because I bought that album
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the same day I bought Nellie's Country Grammar from the
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Sam Goodie and San Diego.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've been knowing Buck for a while Buck Project.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I took Project pad to to go up to Nashville
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and grab Buck and bring him to my house and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: we just started working. And I've been been cool with
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Buck ever since then. Man, love him to death. You know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I got one on Bucked already done a full project,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: full project. We've just been updated a little more and
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: then you're ready to put that out this year.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you figured out the balance of
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: being the guy who used to sell all these CDs independently,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: being independent, but also kind of existing in this new
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: space where you got to drop your music. The streaming
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: revenue ain't there like that, It ain't crazy like it
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: should be, right, But people nowadays, more than ever, are
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: buying records and there, and they want to support, like
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: they want to own a piece of something, like are
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you gonna have vinyl or you're gonna I'm.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Gonna do I'm doing vinyl and uh CDs, doing VIOYL
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and CDs, because man, you just never know these days. Man,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: You know, like I fear that one day we're just
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: gonna turn around and you know, all these streaming places
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: pages will be gone.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I hope. So for the artistic honestly.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: We'll turn around and they'll be gone one day. Man.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You know, like like look at.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I think then motherfuckers really gotta try when they put
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: music out because it's gonna cost them to release music.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Right now, you can just throw some bullshit out and
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: see what happens, as opposed to being like, oh we
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: gotta get some ship pressed up.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, fuck like yeah, like fuck man. You know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: but it helps people out that doesn't don't really have budgets.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: That's a good thing. But it's just you know, they
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: they pay us crumbs. They're making beans and dollars, you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and they're just you're paying us chrumebs man. You know,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I think I think one day. I think one day,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: y'all let it change. So you know, to all the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: artists out here, that's like, I'm not gonna put out
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: music because you know it's not making no money, and man,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: just put it out because one day it'll make some money.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I think too. It's like, if you have any sort
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of tribe that fucks with you, the music is like
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: an advertisement to get them to come spend money with you,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, whether it's on tour,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: whether it's you got a merch store, whether you know
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, the vinyl game is crack.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: It's more crazy than it's ever been right now.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they love it. You know they love it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, Clint Sparks told me some a few
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: years ago, shouty Clint Sparks. He told me, he was like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of these artists out here, you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: older artists, he said, they focus on trying to make
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a new sound and do what the younger kids doing,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: but they forget they sat millions of OG fans that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: still want to hear their old stuff.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: The kids aren't gonna. Ice Cube sat in this chair
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: and I thank him because I was like, hey, man,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: your new album sounds like an ice Cube album.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that. That's what you're own, that's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: what you're want. Man. I grew up on New York music.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: It's like, if I'm buying an ice Cube album, I
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear ice Cube, do Young Thug or
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Future you know what I mean?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I grew up on on on New York and
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop I was obviously that was always
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: here back in the day, you know, West Coast in
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: New York, and I grew up on both and I
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: miss you know, you can still turn on serious asm
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and here they'll be playing like some some underground, straight
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: New York hip hop style songs that I shazam shazam
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: can't even find it right, you know, Like, but I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: miss those old, old school, hard New York style hip
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: hop songs, you know, like I just miss them, man,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I miss them, you know, like the ship that that
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you know, all these different dudes was doing back in
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the day, like Eric being rock Cam, you know, ooh
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: and all that, and I just I miss it.
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• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Can you give me a I feel like there was
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: this era where there was like all of these kind
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: of underrated movements happening at the same time. There was
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: a Ball and MJG. There was three six Mafia, there
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: was UGK. All you guys were semi major. You know,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think UGK was on drive, but you and uh
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: you got classics with UGK, with pimps, You got any
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: because I always heard pimpsy was like a character character.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: You got a crazy pimpsy story or just something, because
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like we don't talk about pimps enough. Man,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: he's one of them.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Ones man, he more than ones man, like is so funy.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: PIMPC called me after he got into that incident. You know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: he told me he was like, man, I just got
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: into some shit, man, like I was in the mall.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Bit drew a gun on me, you know, he said
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a bit je gun on me. I do one on
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: up like she bully thing on him. He pull the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: thing on her back. You know whatever, weld to whatever.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Thank god, nobody got hurt, you know, but pill was
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: my brother. Man. He told me a lot of stuff.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I was out, you know, I take to the grave,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: but you know that was that was my guy. Man.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I heard he was super obsessed with cell phones before
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: he passed away. I heard he had like thirty phones,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: like he had a gold eye for you. Like I
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: heard he had a cell phone thing.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I never knew that. I never knew that. I never
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: knew that. I believe it, though I believe it. I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: knew he loved candles. He loved candles, but uh oh yeah,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I never knew that. The cell phone thing about it. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: probably never even noticed it, you know, because back in
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: those days, like Master P had a rule that you
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: couldn't even have a cell phone in the studio. Now,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I never went that far with it, but that's an
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: amazing rule to have. I wish those those would come back, anybody,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: if you ever understood.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean even back then, that was before
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: there were cameras on phones too.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like no cell phones in the studio, so
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you know, that was kind of a thing back in
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: those days though, So I never seen pm C with
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: a cell phone, to be honest. When we was in
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the Steel Man, we was you know, getting high and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: drinking and kicking in. We was talking. Ain't nobody doing
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: this or doing that? Man, you didn't see a phone.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: You had no reason to have a phone out.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: When you guys were in the studio and U bun
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Bee's doing the intro to sipping on scissor, which is
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: such an epic lead into this fucking banger. Are y'all
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: like hyping him up when he's on that like little
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: tangent that leads into the beginning of the.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Song I was so high. I don't even remember. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: just remember having a we had a wreck, and yeah
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: it was the whole thing. Man. But Pemse was he
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: was a he was a beast man resting the piece
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: of him. I miss him. I just you know, I
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: always think about, like if he was still around these days,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: like you know, like what would he dress? Like? What
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: kind of car would he have? I know what kind
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: of car you got? He probably had like a raf
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: like a twodo. He loved coops. He probably had like
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a too though on swings or something. And uh, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: always wondered what would he be, what would he be dressing?
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: What would he would have ever did the skinny jeans thing.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: He probably have been called. He probably would have been
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: saying a lot of canceled, canceled.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Probably would have did the skinner jeans because two five
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: would like sextion nigga.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would would have taken the shirt off with
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: skinny jeans. Pimps would have called everybody gay.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Probably I can't see him doing the skin jeans. No,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, man, I can't see he probably
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: would have had him a little a little bit, a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: little bit skinny because the only think you're bad at
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: that point, maybe a little bit skinny was a stomach
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: out in the mink coat on, but I don't think
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have had him to to too tight.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: If you think back to Sipping on Scissor, which is
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a record that it kicked off the national people knowing
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: what this was because no one I mean outside of
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: the region and people who did it, it was not
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: a thing. And now if we think about every artist
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: that's had we see a lot like a whole generation
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: of rappers who either sip lean, currently are doing Lean,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: have kicked the cup, have been addicted to lean.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts just on like lean culture as being kind
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: of the guy who first kind of brought it to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: pop culture.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know I said this and then I
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: leave that that alone. But it's just it's a bad thing.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a bad thing. You know. Like I remember,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I remember Lord Infamous overdosed on some lean. We was
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: on tour and guys would be giving us, you know, lean,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: giving us bars a Lean. I remember Lord Infamous overdose
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: on lean. We was doing the Ryan Spinner's video. He
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: they took him to the airport in Atlanta. I mean
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: a hospital in Atlanta, and you know he lived. Obviously,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: he was good. He just was drinking all of the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: CRP while we was on our Femi in the video
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Ryan Spinner, he was drinking SYRP on you know, hit
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: everybody spot ash and you know, overdose. They had taken
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: him on the helicopter and all us and you know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the next day we picked him up from the hospital
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: and he was totally fine. And he was like, you
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: know who I saw in the hospital, like they hit
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: him into like the little room where you were recovering
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and you sober enough whatever, he said. I said, who riggy?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: He said, Bobby Brown, I like what. I like, that's
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: fucking fantastic. Were dealing with the same ship, something like
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: what an exchanged, like nights the night before nights like this.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I care. It's a crazy night.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: You know. The SERP took out a lot of people,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know a lot
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: of people. I wouldn't We don't even really know if
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it was what it was or what it was, but
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I just put it like this, man, I leave it alone.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Don't do cert it's bad for you. Don't don't do
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: no drugs. Be honest with you. I don't do no drugs.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I'm telling a half your sober right now.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Nothing nothing, congratulations man.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Was there something that kind of made you just be
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: like all right, man, it's it's time. I got it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's called living. Yeah, that was it. I was like,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: you want to live? Do you not want to live?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I chose living.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: What was your Like, I guess you're pick your poison.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Was it drinking? Was it X?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: What was it was drinking?
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Drinking?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was drinking. I never got in the pills,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: thank god. You know. I dibbled and dabble with a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: a C like once and I was just in a
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: hotel room chewing on a pillow all night, hot chick
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: next to me, and I was like, damn, I thought
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: this ship was making horn. It just makes one listen.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: The one time I did see I went through the
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: same thing. I was like, this girl was sucking my
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: dad and I literally was like, yeah, I need you
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: to chill. I need this. I'm grinding my fucking teeth.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking the latest fuck.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm chilling on a pillow this hot che.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I know why these motherfuckers got mouth cards and it
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: raves because my teeth, Like, I'm fucking psyched.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is I never did it again
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: out there that was like the nineties. I was like, now,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: fuck this, I don't want this ship.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: You know, alcohol is it's the it's the biggest drug though.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a big one.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: It's a big one and you and you become depending
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: on it because it kind of becomes like a crutch
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: for you socially, like if you're out with your homies,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I'll take a drink, yeah, or if you go to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: a party, like you know, because it's so easy. It's
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: so easy.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: It's so easy. You know, you can get it anywhere,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: like I'm sure you got balls and.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: It's like and if I was still drinking, I would
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: that would have been the first thing I would ask
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: you for when I walked in here.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: If you ever have liquor in the gasoline? Can you
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: would be you just have the gas the.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Gas drinking, Yeah, liquor in that or some beer.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Or something, yeah, to be I love beer.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I love I missed. I don't miss alcohol, just the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: card alcohol, freezing cold beer. I miss a cold beer.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I miss a corona.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Nothing like a ice cold corona.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I miss a corona. But I drink the non
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: alcoholic coronas and they taste just like it.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: They don't taste bad.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: That tastes good. And I drink the Heineken Zeros, which
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the Honeken Zeros taste better than the regular Hende because
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: because I hated Heineg, I.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Got some Asian homies that love the Heineken Zeros.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Asians love Heinekens, by the way. I don't know if
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: people know that's a thing.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Asian motherfuckers love They love Remy and they
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: love Heineken Dog. They love that brown being the Mese homies,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Heineken and fucking Remy Martine. If you're the goat of
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: all goats, who is your goat?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: J L L coo J. I love it, man, man,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I love el COO J Man. You know, like he's
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: done everything in life that I want to do or
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: have tried to do, and you know he's he's did
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: uh l L was one of those dudes that could
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you know, he could be the hard motherfucker come in here,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: kick all of my ass, and but he can also
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: be funny at the same time.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And do the fucking sitcom.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can be funny and he can play a
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: cop and can do this, he can do that, and he.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Can destroy you in a battle the next round and
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: then the next single.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about why licking his tongue out and being
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: sexy with a beat you in a rap battle like
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: l L is just He's just that dude. Obviously, I
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: had a lot of goats Easy E. You know what
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I probably owe my whole career to Easy.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: But you know, Easy And.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: What about who would you say is your guys or
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: your biggest influence in terms of like hip hop moguls,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: because you guys, like I said earlier, you guys were
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: very much independent juggernauts in the nineties.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: They would come from Easy. Easy was independent, ruthless, ruthless
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: and uh and a little j rap a lot. And
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that's why back in the day you would see our albums.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: It was saying Hymnotized Minds Presents against the Boo or
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Project Pad.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: It was like, very like, we have to brand this,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: we have to right.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I got that from them. Ruthless record presents a lot rap,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: a lot record presents this girl, this dude, Willy D
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like I remember Will D was solo
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't even with together balls. It was hard
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: as hell. Yeah, crazy yeah, So yeah that my independent
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: side came from watching them.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: What about your goat lyricists? Bars only?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: What about it?
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: What about your goat lyrics?
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Lyrics?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Bars only? Bars don't got to be record sales nothing.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about this lyrically.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Lyrically, Uh, Yellow, yellow Man yelling buck, yelling buck. Because
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: they two different sizes. I'm gonna give my my Black's.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Got to be another. You guys have done these records together.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: You guys have got to do a little truth. I mean,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you got obviously the Slamafia album, and you gotta put
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: them on songs together, you guys. You guys should do
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: ten song joint or something that cask You're on the
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Caskie album, the Caski album. Me, but I was that
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: black sheep.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. I think Yellow is is like
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: he's an alien. Yeah he don't. I don't think he
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: get all the credit that he deserves. I agreefully, yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: because he's.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Him and rits Man Ritz is incredible to man.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and u uh yeah yeah, Rich shot Rich.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: But the thing about Yellow is, you know, like he's he's, he's,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: he's he got one thing that's really really great about
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: him that that actually I hate. It's really really great,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: but I hate it. But it's a good thing though,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: It's a good hate. He is so into his art
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: more than any artists I've ever seen in my life.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And I've worked with Ludacris, two Chains, Drake, I don't
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: work with the best of the best, and Yella is
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the type of dude that we can go in and
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: make a whole album right now, and if he wake
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: up tomorrow and he don't like that album, that I
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: will never see the light of day. He not gonna
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: put out nothing just to be putting somewhere. He is
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: so into the art, not saying that those other dudes
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: will do that, because obviously all those guys drinking, all
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: those guys put out, you know.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: The way for the sake of the art.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Boy. Now, I don't give us flying back and forth
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: to Nashville first class flights, twenty five hundred here, twenty
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: five hundred death. We did seven videos. He never brought
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: up one of them out. Yeah, it was a black
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Fall I.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Was, but by the way that please will put the
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: fucking Black Fall videos out for fox sake? Yeah yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: bro please, But he put it on DSPs like right now.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: If you go on his Instagram you'll see that. Uh.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: He only got four four photos up there, and one
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of them is my album. Thank god. I was lucky
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: to get that. But he when he's starting a new project,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: it's a full rollout. Everything in his past must go.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Well. That's why he had that month where he was
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: dropping like an maybe it was a month or he
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: was dropping like an album a month. He dropped the
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: album with You, he dropped the riff Raff album.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: He dropped the one would beat be uh out here?
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: He dropped four projects.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: When my gout from a from Cypress Hill did he
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: he did I'll Be Real, the dj.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Oh mugs he did the mugs out.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, this is very unre I was
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: on that one. Like when CASKI got that album out
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: with all the videos to come out with it. I
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: was like, bro, Wolf must really fuck with you, dog
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: because the fact he let you kind of take the
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: reins creatively with these videos. Yeah, and y'all put them
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: all out.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that ships, that's it's not that's not by accident.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a chemistry.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Yo.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Do you do you remember one for like a whole
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: year he only posted black and white pictures, Yeah, of course. Yeah,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and then he took all of those down and then
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: he changes hair red and then it was just a pictures.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: He's got a lot of errors. He's got a lot
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: of aesthetic errors. Yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd just be like, dude, fuck man, like
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: stop us. But you know, it's it's it's so creative
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and it's such a it's such a a great thing.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: He's he's just so serious with his art, like he
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: just he don't he don't play with it at all.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: And I've never seen anybody like that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: You end up doing this record and producing this record
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: for Drake?
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Can you explain how does this happen? Hoe ends up
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: on the project? What is the genesis of you and
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Drake connecting outside? I believe his dad came up in Memphis.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Right, His dad's from Memphis. Yeah, his dad shout out
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: his dad. Uh uh. His dad is one of the
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: one still one of my close friends. Like I'm closer
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: to his dad and Drake.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: His dad is the kind of guy who if you
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: go out enough in l A, you're saying, you've had
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: to have seen Dennis Graham. Yeah, you see Dennis Graham,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: but there was a certain time you see you everywhere.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes, Dennis, Dennis loved Dennis loved Delilahs, Delilahs.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like four or five celebrities that if you
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: go out enough in l A, you're gonna run into
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: the guy who plays the Black Power ranger. You're gonna
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: run into ot Genesis. You know, you're running the DJ
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Paul and Drake's dad.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Drake's dad. Now, you won't run the DJ Paul nowhere.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: But but so basically I had this beat me and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: my artist Tea I produced and it was gonna be
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: for my album. So on this album I talk about
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the gold of all Ghost albums that I talk about
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: how it took seven years to make this album, and
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: it was because when I was first starting on this album,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: we was first starting on this album twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: that was gonna be one of the first beats that
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I used. And I ended up flying to Nashville to
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: produce some stuff for Yellow Wolfs and I was staying
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: over my brother's house at that time, and like three
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: in the morning, I got a DM that said call me,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: I need some beats. Excuse me, I need some beats
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: and it said Champagne Poppy and I was like, I
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: think this is Drake, but I don't know. But he
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: had at the time three million followers. Yeah, it was
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: way more than that. Now I was and I called him.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I called a number and yeah, it really was Drake
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, send me something like two
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: weeks to turn in this album. So I sent him
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: the beat that me and T had and he takes
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: me right back and he said I'm using it, and
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I was like really, I was like, wow, that was
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: that was easy?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I was like okay and uh. And then I didn't
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: hear back from him no more. And then like two
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: weeks had passed, and I was like, I don't want
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: to blow him up. I mean, I do want to
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: blow him up, but I'm not going to blow him
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: up because I'm a Capricorn and we don't do that.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: So I just shot him a taste. I was like, hey,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: you're still gonna use that beat because I was gonna
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: use it if he wasn't. And he was like, yeah,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it. And I already use it, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I put jay Z on it and I'm like what
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the phone like what jay Z?
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Like holy fuck? Because obviously jay Z is another king
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: of course, and I was like goddamn. And they put
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: it out and you know, LA's radio was playing the
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: hell out of it when it first came out, and
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: this and that, and I was like, wow, you know,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I had I met Drake's mother and theihborhood that I
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: was living in, and I met Drake's mom, and you know,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: she thought that I was really cool and really nice guy.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: She told him and then he reached out to me,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and you know, that's why he can't burn bridges. And
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: you gotta watch how you treat people, because what if
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I would have been addicted?
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yesh, I'm not.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Addicted nobody now, but you never know, yeah, you just
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: never know.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Then it ended up turning into that that ended up
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: on the Scorpio album, which I think is like.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I think that's Drake's in my opinion, that's my my
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: last like really favorite Drake album.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I love that albums here's the albums had like eight million,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: eight times platinum, ten times platinum or something like. We
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: sold so many compets of that albums. A great album
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: to be a part of. It had that that God
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: song on.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: It had it had Yeah, God's Plan. God's Plan was
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: on there. It's the biggest song ever.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible album. What was it like being
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: the Memphis Group on Loud Records at a certain point
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: in time where Loud Records is the home of Wu
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Tang Clan Big pun exhibit.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Uh, I mean there was everybody, man, they had everybody.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: You know, it was a it was a blessing because
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Steve, Steve Rifkin man you know still today.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: My brother just talked to him a couple of days ago.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Great great guy. And Steve was so rich. He's still rich,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: but Steve was so rich then that anything Man Juicy
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: wanted he would be like, give it to him. You know.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: He he's so laid back. Yeah, and he'd just been like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever the guys want, whatever you guys want,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: and you know he just you know, he just supported
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: us so so much, man, you know, like because we
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: started off with Relativity and then we got sent to
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: a Loud record. All of it was Columbia Son. At
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, they ended up putting us
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: with Loud Records and Relativity was great, you know, Cliff
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Contrary all those guys. But when we got with Loud,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: it was just you know, game changing, like the staff
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: he had and you know, Liz and everybody that was
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: working for him.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: That that was it was the first album with him.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: When this more clears, I think so yeah, and that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: was that was the album. I feel like that popped
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: you guys in a different way.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, they was just they was getting
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: behind us like crazy, and you know, he was so
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: cool and oh it was it was you know, I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: didn't really even notice the thing about how many New
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: York artists was on there, because you know, I think
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I think Bone Night was on there. I know Bone
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: was on Relativity. I don't think Bone was Bone wasn't
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: they weren't allowed, but they was on Relativity.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: They were on Ruthless and then I mean I think
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: after that they were on Ruthless though.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they was on I think Relativity put some
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: stuff out.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: They probably maybe I think on lap No Deaf Jamis
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: who put out the Flesh and Bone album.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but they did. They did some stuff
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: with Relativity at one point, I think, but you know,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: they they had, uh, they had a bunch of different artists.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: But I think the good part about us being the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: only group that they had from the South gave you know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: gave them was a mission for them, but a cool mission.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes you look for these things that you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: think would be hard to do, and you you challenge
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: those things, you go right after those things. That's happened
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: with me a lot in my career, well, a lot
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: of people to be like, you know, like I want
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to take this, you know, this this this Paul project
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: or this three Sis might be project because you know
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: it's the South and everybody else is scared to touch it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I want to touch it because everybody else is scared
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to touch it, you know like, And I think that
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: was he was just he was he was happy to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: take on that project and and get behind Three's Mafia
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: so much because I don't think he had nobody else
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: from the South until he formed s r C and he.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Got banner the Mississippi album.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's I don't I can't think anybody else
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: from the South, the leaks he had exhibit, but yeah,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: not from the South. Whose idea was it to take
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Triple six Mafia and make it more palatable for the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: god fearing folk and make it three six Mafia a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: nice medium?
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: It was kind of all of our ideas. It was
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: kind of all ideas. I think I kind of I
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: think I possibly thought of the three six Mafia, but
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: it was kind of I thought of trip. I made
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Triple six Mafia name. Yeah, I made that name from
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: from Lord Offamos, a rap that Lord Evermos had, And
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I think that when we it was time for us
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to bring out the album, you know, we all wasn't
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: decided that, you know, Triple six Mafia is not gonna fly.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: You know, first thing we said was like, man, we
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: ever nominated for an award? Did you know they're not
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: gonna want to set this name. They're not gonna even
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: nominate us. You know, obviously we didn't think we was
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: gonna ever be nominated.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: For it, let alone win.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, we was thinking ahead of time,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: and I just thought it was a good move and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: and we ended up doing the people used asked it'd
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: be like what other three six Manthiel mean. I'd be
• 1:02:54
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what the people who didn't know, Yeah, we played football.
• 1:03:02
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  Speaker 2: guys have a lot of history with WWE. Uh are
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: you hip to this new guy, Trick Williams. No, so,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Trick Williams. When he comes out the crowd yells. I
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: did say that he is like the most popping new
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: dude in all the rest of it every time he
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: comes out of the crowd. That is crazy.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: That's so fun, man, man, WWE Man, that was that
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: was a fun experience.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: You guys have the Mark Henry record, the Mark Henry
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Entrance song.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they still play that song, still play Yeah, I
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: know it still on the games because they always they
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: still clear it with us but I don't know if
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: it's on the show.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Did you guys like work with Mark Henry on that,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Like did he give you notes or did they just
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: pick it? Like, how'd that come out?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: It was one It was one guy that made all
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: of the beats for w W.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: He still is the guy, but I think he's still there. Yeah,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: that's so fire, what a great job, what a legend. Yeah,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: so he made all of the beats. So he sent
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: us that beat and then you know, we just wrote
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: the song to it. Juicy came up with the hook,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: and we just wrote the song to it.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: And now it's gonna be just it's it's forever. It's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: like a forever wrestling lord like Mark Henry will always
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: get a pop Like.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw Mark Henry last year at the airport
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. Yeah, that's super nice appen.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: You guys are big movie buffs Choices one and two.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Is there any plans to try to get those on
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: DSPs or get on Netflix?
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been talking about that. I gotta get it up.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Like we could get it on TV or something Amazon Prime.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I need to be on all that. I need
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: to be on all that. I'm finna get back into movies. Man,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: I love movies.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: I mean I think back to like, It's funny because
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: when you guys put out The Unbreakables, I was like, oh,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: they know ball that was like a people don't know
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: the movie. Unbreakable was very slept on at the time
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: with Bruce Willis and Samuel Jackson not all. It was
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: like a cult favorite kind of at the time. So
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: when you guys put down it was like, Oh, these guys,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: these guys know good movies.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: It's a good movie. But you know a movie that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I've never seen by him was The Sixth Sense. I've
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: never seen that movie.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's the same same director and everything. Yeah,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: did you watch the because after the Unbreakables there was.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the whole Yeah, I watched it.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: There's like two or three, Yeah, there's I think there's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: three total.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched one of them. I watched the one
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: with the dude was crawling like animal.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Or what what would you say is your favorite type
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: of movie?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: Uh, thriller thriller, so like a horror thriller type.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Of the don't have to be hard, just like, oh, thriller, suspense.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: So what's your favorite movie of all time. My favorite
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: movie off the top of your head, obviously not you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: know what comes to mind, Scarface. I got the poster
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Everybody got this post.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: That my boy gifted, that one that's like a og
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: one from like the eighties.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got this post. Yeah. I had this whole
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: thing painted on the door in my house. One door
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: was the black side and the other door was the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: white side. And I had diamonds on his diamond necklace
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: that I added on him. Yo, I saw that door
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: with the house.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: When I saw that house, there was that early two
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: thousand's uh point in time where like a whole generation
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: of kids discovered Scarface and the video game came out
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: and every wrapper had Scarface teasing.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the thing got second. And then
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: there's Belly, which you know is pretty much the same poster. Yeah,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I love BELLI super Belly's. I always say Belly is
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: the best worst movie ever.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't see nothing bad about that movie. I love
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: everything about it.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I love everything about it too. But in theory, it's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: like it's like a smoothie of all of the gangster
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: movies we all like just combined. Yah, Hype Williams needs
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: to make another movie because aesthetically, visually one of the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: dopest movies ever.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Some of those scenes are CRAZYX was just a great
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: actor man.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Unlike Nas.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Nas was Nas.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: He was like, y'all want to go to Africa? Do
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: you make that his part?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Though not because Nas Sincere, he he he played the
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: He played the part that he needed to play.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: You don't want to play himself in the movie.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what Jason, what they want.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: He played Tommy Tommy. And then there was Sincere, who
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: was just nots Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nas Nas played his I think Nos did go
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: because he he played his part. Like you got some actors.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of actors out here that that
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: they be the same person in every movie, and then
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: they kind of know Jackson, yeah, Sam with Jason kind
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: of not looking at the Spike Lee movie. At first
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Spike Lee move way, he played a cranckhead. It was
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: totally different from men of this other one.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like the meat and potatoes of his run.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: He was very much like where he was the face
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: of the movie. Like obviously he's Mace Window and Star Wars,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: which is different. He's like the man different. But when
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: he's like the main guy.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you gotta look at it like this a
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: lot of times, because I've wrote movies before, and a
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: lot of time when you write these movies, just like
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: writing a song, you kind of write for some here,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: the feature or the actor that you won't own there.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: So you like when they writing this movie, they're like, man,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I want a ship talking old black man, many old
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: shit talking like Kevin Hart is Freeman, not gonna do it.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Kevin Heurt's the same guy in every movie.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, the same guy.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Adam Sandler kind of the same guy and everybody.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: But they won't. They It's not saying that, you know,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart is not a good actor. He's a good actor.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: It's just that's what they want.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: People like Kevin Hart. He's a likable guy. They want
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: to see Kevin.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Hevin Hard to be to be that. But Kevin Hart
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: have done some other stuff too, because somebody I haven't
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: got a chance to catch it, but somebody told me
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: about another show that he had on TV or a
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: movie or something. I think it was a movie.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: He did a movie where he was like helping some
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: handicap dud.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: It was like he was totally different than that he
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: wasn't good though I didn't see it, but I don't know.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: But so he can do he can, he can, he can,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: he can do it. It's just like when you when
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: you looking for that particular kind of character, you pray
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and hope that this actor is available to do that part.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: And to do that part, you gonna tell them on
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: the set, look, I want you to be as as
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart as possible, or as Samuel Jackson as possible.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Samuel Jackson, they told me Sammy Jackson when
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: he was doing those movies with Craig Brewer, I think,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: like Black Snake mong They said he can look at
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: the script like one time, like I don't.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: I just know it.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got like a super good memory or something.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: Probably you know what. You know what movie? I fucked
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: with it? Everyone hated it or thought it was I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Love Snakes on a Plane. Man imakes on this motherfucking plane.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm saying I've never seen the whole movie,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: but the director of that is a home alle man.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I saw it back in the day, but it's just
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: like I was so high and drunk at the time.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I don't really really remember it, but I watched it
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: because I wanted to support because it was like a
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: really popular black movie at that time. It had Snoop
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: and all these dudes in there. But I need to
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: watch it again. The sober me need to go back
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: and watch a lot of these movies. To be honest
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: You have see the six on the Projectpew, which is
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: your nephew's who I'm a.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Son is a little infamous, and then Loco done it
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: is my brother's son. And man, they hard man, you know,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: like people need to pay attention to them. Man, they's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: super super hard man.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been active and doing their thing.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: What is it like to just kind of have that
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: kind of like lineage where you have like yeah, I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: mean they're following in your guys' foot steps.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I want, you know, Like I teach
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: him a lot, you know, like Loco has you know,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: uh come and stay you know, months years at my house.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: You know. I teach him everything because I want him,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: you know, to come up. I want I want to
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: leave it to him because my kids ain't into music,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: like right, So Loco was like not you know son
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: for the most part, and that in this music business,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: and you know, like I want to see them them
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: dudes come up, you know, I want to see little
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Demus lived the life that his daddy didn't get a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: chance to live and you know, and reap the benefits
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: from from you know, it's a.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: Seat for sure. Can you talk speak to it?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: I only got to meet gangsterbo once and it was
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: a Yellow Wolf trunk music. He had like a release
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: party here in l A. And I met her that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: he did it at a little bar and h this
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: was when him and mg K got on that album
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: together for the first time, like after they squashed their beef.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: But she was so nice, man, Yeah, she really really
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: cool until you pissed off. You pissed off, it was
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: all hell. But but yeah, she was she was super
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: super super super nice man. You know, like she was
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: a game changer. You know, she was a game changer.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: You know, she was she was. She brought something to
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: the South. Obviously we had me and X right, you know,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: but Gasa bo was different from uh from me X
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: megs super super hard, but gaisabout was was different. I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: don't I don't remember me X being as freaky as
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Boo was on the records.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're probably spot on there. I think
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: No Limit had the Mercedes chick who did the freaky talk.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah she was a freaking yeah was more like she's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: still hot.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. I remember that album cover over rear end. Yes,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: great album. Spent him alone time with that advertisement as
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: a kid, for sure.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So but but yeah, but was just doing she
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: was just because she was raised by you know, all
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: us dudes. You know she would talk about that too.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: She'd be like, you know what y'all expect, like.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Like inquiring minds. Man, such a great album.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna steal with all these foods every day, right,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what she what she did, man, rest
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: of these guys, I hate that. I hate that happened. Man.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's a legend, man. I just want to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: give her her flower shots against the buo man. So
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: go to ball goots. Is this something? Obviously it took
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: you seven years to make this project. You got the
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: battery in your back to like keep putting out solo stuff.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: You have a lot of clod projects. We just talked
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: about you and that stuff.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I want to make another solo album, but
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I probably bring it out next year. I'm gonna make
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: an instrumental album that I'm gonna bring out this year.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: In the solo album, I mean, it's Paul and Freddy album,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna finally finish up this Paul and Crazybone
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: album Fire and Paul and Young Buck finally put that out,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: and I know Paul a.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Little White, so the noo Little White New like.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: New Crazy Bone, Freddy Gibbs, Young Buck and a DJ
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Paul an instrumental I want to bring on an instrumental album.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I've been wanting to do that forever.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just I mean, I mean, obviously do
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: an instrumental album because then you can kind of tell
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: story musically. But I feel like anytime you drop an album,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: you should also drop the instrumental version. Yeah sure, yeah,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: why not? Like there should be the go to, go
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: to instrumental version, so you get to let motherfuckers wrap
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: over your shit, you know.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah all the streams count yeah shit, yeah, which they
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: do really good. Because I beforeto album came out, I
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: brought out a song called from the Bottom of the Bottom,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: and then I put out an instrument of it, and
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: people are like, man, I just ride to this instrument
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: all the time. You know, it's like feel good kind
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: of music, these piano chords that I played on there.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: And what is out of all those collab projects we
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: just talked about, is there is there something that's coming
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: you know for sure? Like first out of those, Like
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: is the Crazy Bone thing the thing that the first.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: One they eat? The Crazy or the Young Bug one
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: of those two of the first because I've been working
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: on those the longest.
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  Speaker 2: I think it'd be dope too if you and Don
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Tripp did a.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Whole project, Don Trump, Yeah, yeah, well.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Trips dope star leader on Trip.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: They're crazy. I don't even think I ever met Don Trip,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: to be honest, bro.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: No, obviously I know Leo and Don Trip. Yeah, obviously
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: leaders from Nashville.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really meant needing one of them.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: You got Tennessee legends.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Man. I started leader once before at the bt Wolves
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: twenty years ago or whatever, but I never I know.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think I might have met Don Trip. I
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: really don't remember that. I think it was juice. It
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: was really really.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: They're going crazy independently right now, like doing their thing.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: I feel like you're pretty Yeah, they're definitely tough man
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: is there something because I feel like you you you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: also do a lot of sampling like you you can
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: get in your sampling bag. Was there ever a record
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: that you had to change the beat where it never
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: came out because you can't clear the sample? Mm hmm.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I had to think maybe, I'm sure it was. I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: had to think probably was. Who knows you.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: I feel like if you could do if you and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: Wolf ever do like a black Fall, like real follow.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Up, I wish you would have put that album out
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: through through Shady Shady.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wish you guys would have did it because
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: it was only four songs. I wish you guys would
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: have did ten of those fucking things. Yeah, crazy, I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: think those are bro production wise, with some of your
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: hardest beats you've every done.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me and my eyest to you, I
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: did those crazy. You only got a new project he
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: just sent me the other day. That's that's really dope
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: forty five. You heard about this project. It's like it's
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: mature project. Okay, Yeah, it's like it ain't. It's kind
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: of like singing, kind of rapping kind of thing, but
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: it's it's so hard, bro, so hard. They sent me
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: a link to the list of the other day. I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this is amazing. Man.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Album is out Vinyl hopefully coming soon.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Violent CDs, Violent CD's coming out. Man, go get the album,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: go to ball Goes. Look, I'm telling you this album
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: is so hard. Look when I said it took me
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: seven years to make it, it was you're gonna hear
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: There, and you got big boogie on here, big boogie.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: And now you're merging the two generations of Memphis. Man, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I got Juice of Fruit on there too, which is
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: female Memphis, you know, young Memphis. So like, y'all check
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: out Juice Fruit. I'll have it. But you know, the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: albums from from front to back. You know, Acon's on there,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of people on there. From front to back.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: The album is just it's killing.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: All right, man. So you know I say this too.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the Crazy Bone album because for
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: people who don't know you, you Bone Thugs and three
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: six had a little, yeah, little thing back in the day.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: We had to think a few years ago on verses,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: but we was always friends.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Though the verses was interesting. Yeah, busy, it would have
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: been Busy Bone by the way who would have escalated things?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he had to do it. That was he
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: started it before we even we even went into the verses.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I what do you mean happened?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: So we I started off all up, so verses came
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: like us. First, it was gonna be a thing called
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the face Off with me and Crazy Ball. We were
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: just gonna do it on your own, on our own,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: on social media, right on social media. And then we
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: had a schedule, we had flyers made and all that,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: and about five minutes before we were supposed to go live, Uh,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Crazy Ball didn't go live, and I was like, oh,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: what's going on? And uh? And he was like, I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: talked to Swiss Beach because they had they knew Swiss Beach.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: I knew Switch Beach as well, but they put out
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: a project through Switch Beast.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: He had an album Hustling Flow or No Strengthen Loyalty
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: was what it was called it.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that, so so I called him
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: like what's going on? He was like, I talked to
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Swiss Beasts and he said they want to put it
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: on a versus and they're gonna pay us to do it. Yeah,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: big money too, I might add, So I was like, all,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: fuck it, we ain't gonna do it. So it started off,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: you know, friendly, like I was like, oh yeah, we're
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: finish students for the culture, celebrate the culture. Three sis
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: my bone thuh Man Busion Bone did a post here
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: like fuck that. Fuck y'all niggas. I'm gonna kill y'all motherfuckers.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: He was doing like the posters with me getting shot
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: and beat up and ran train and then chewed up
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: by a shark and spit out and sit on fire,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: all kind of crazy shit. And I was like, I
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, I ain't prison rules. We were running
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: prison rolls. I made one back this and him, you know,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: talking about beating them up and this and that, and
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: it just kept going back for he make one beating
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: me up, and I make one beating them up.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: And now I was having a meme battle, yeah mean battle.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: That ship was getting crazy and it showed me phone
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: down some stairs and and I was like, I was like,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: all right, I can't. And then as soon as we
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: walked down on stage, everybody else is shaking hands. He
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: ain't shake nobody, and he just looking like them, but
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: looking looking I was like, oh, here we go. Here
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: we go here we go losing up, bro, And then
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: you know, he threw the battle. He threw that cast
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: lit or whatever.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: He was like a weird ass for whatever.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: She said, Oh man, take it man, so you get
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: hit after that, you know, after that he went off
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: stage for a while. He calmed down, and he came
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: back out and he hugged me, and you know we
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: talked to.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Did you guys talk after now?
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: We just see each other. After I was taking I
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: saw I saw Lazy Bone after we took some pictures
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: and hung out.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: But Lazy Coole is the fan. Man, It's so cool,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: crazy cool is the fan. Bro. The busy boy.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Turned up visit like man, fun This is because Busity
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: is the only one that I don't see, like, you know,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: I see the rest of them all the time. Like
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: is he Bonies an enigma? Yeah, he loved he lived
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: in Houston. He's like he stayed away from from all,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: you know, everybody. So he's the only one that I
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: never had to build a relationship with. But the funny
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: part about it is he did a verse for me
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: back in like twenty fifteen. That's easy, no, no problem
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: at all. He did a verse with me and uh
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: that it was cool. So you know, I didn't know
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: where all of that came from. But but you know, like,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: but well, we talked about it and he just, you know,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: he told me he just wanted to pump up the show.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, listen, you guys got a viral
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: moment during the pandemic.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm so glad he did that. I wouldn't take
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: nothing back. I wouldn't take nothing back. He did.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Streams pribly spiked.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he made it. One of the best verses ever
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: in my book.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: Steve Lobel's up there just fucking try to hold it together.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: He don't know who side.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: He's friends with everybody.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody, and man, this shit was. It was wild. It
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: was a fun moment.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Before you I wanted to ask you a group that
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: obviously is influenced by you guys, that you guys had
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: some legal stuff with, was the Suicide Boys. You guys
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: settled the lawsuit. You guys ever have any communication with
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: those guys?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: Nah, I haven't. I never met them before in my life,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: but you know, we cool now. We even talked about
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: doing the tour together, So we're cool now. I would
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: have been I was cool with them. The whole time. Like,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I didn't never had no issues with those dudes.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I never met him. You know, I wish I wish
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I would have. I wish I would have met him.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: I talked to one of them, scream, I think the
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: name of this. I talked to him once, long, long,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: long time ago. I think through Cousta Nica because I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: think Cooper got cooled to him at one point. But
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I never had no issue with them, man. You know,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: like I think those dudes are jamming, and I think
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: they really dope, and hopefully we could figure it out.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean they're obviously heavily influenced by you guys.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: They've obviously Yeah, he got kid.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: I saw a video of him as a kid talking
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: about I listened to three season Gangs Boot all day.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: He was like fourteen years old.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: So and they're doing it. I mean, I feel like it'd
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: be crazy if you guys eventually when you got when
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: you and Juicy get together, now, it obviously has to
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: make sense financially, like is there when is the timing
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: right for that? Is it a tour?
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Hey? You know, there's an opportunity for us to go
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: do this together.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Well, we already been touring, no, I know, I know.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: I mean I got to see you guys with with
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: with Jelly, which was incredible, But.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: As an album far as music, yeah, at some point,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like we haven't. We're kind of dibbling and
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: dabbled here and now a little bit about talking about
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: like some remixes of some of the other stuff, but
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: we haven't. We haven't talked about a new project. But
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: you know it might happen, you know. I'm I'm I'm
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: really just finding myself. Yeah, my solo career. I feel
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: like I put out some solo solo stuff here and
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: there back then, but you know, I didn't really I
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: didn't really know much about it back then. Like I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: didn't know the streaming game. I put it like that.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: I was right right whole new, Like like I said.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I had to relearn all of us online marketing, you know,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: when I put out those old solo solo tapes of mind,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: you know, ten fifteen years ago or whatever, like I
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: had like one hundred thousand, seventy five sixty five thousand
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: followers on social media. I didn't have that. You know,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: I got more now, so you know, and now I
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: know more about it on how to promote the market
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: is so, you know, I'm just gonna run some more
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: of these up and then you know, obviously just still
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: doing this thing.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like you guys got a crazy festival running
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: y'all soon. Like I feel like one year we're gonna
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: just like wake up and like the whole summer is
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: just gonna be Like remember when outcasted their festival run
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: like ten years ago.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I think that was like the end of day when
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: they called it quis right.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it was after all that it was
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: like two thousand, because I heard it was like twenty fourteen,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: fifteen they did Coachelle. I feel like we need the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Coachella Triple six Mafia, Sex did Coachella. Oh, you guys
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: already did it. We did it Less Show, Oh you
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: got Ce. You guys already did it.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: It was crazy. We did both weekends. Man, it was
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: so fun. Man, we killed Coachell. You can watch it online.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, look, man, I think the world
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: in which you guys are at least on stage together
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: is a good world. So that's good. Here, Yea, the
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: album is out, Go support it, Go to all goats, Go.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: Get the album. Man, go get it right now. I
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: guarantee you, man, you're gonna love it. Man.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Year Man, I'm year twenty four tracks. Artwork is crazy,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: production is crazy. You did all the beats?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I did all of them myself, three three uh three.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Two of them was with me and my rs t
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Y and one of them was with a guy named
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: h a j Adam or Detroit a J. Yeah.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Last question, because this is a good this is a
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: good TikTok, give me your top five rapper slash producers.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: I was with doctor Dre yep, and I don't know
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of them, be honest. Ya Kanye of course,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: duh Kanye for sure. I love Kanye. I mean there's
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Juicy J two just Jay obviously. And who else is
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: a rapper producer? Him? Uh?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Tyler the creator, Tyler the creator, producers, Tyler creator.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Rapper producer love Tyler creator.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: He's so fucking good man.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw him at the movies the other day.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: Eric Shermon, Eric Sherman, Yeah, obviously, and uh.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Yo low Key J Cole, Yeah, J Cole, J Kobe
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: making some beats, man, I know it.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: I just realized that I want to do something with
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: j Cole.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: One day Eminem two had some ship. When he Eminem
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: was in his little pocket making beats. He was a
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: yeah he had a pocket.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: But well, listen, man, I appreciate you coming through your legend.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Go get the album. It's out now. Looking forward to, uh,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year, and looking forward to these
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: collab projects you got on the way.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Go to All Goats, Go to All Goats.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: DJ Paul bo