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Becoming Stylish Instead Of Trendy In 2025 · Two Broke Chicks

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  Speaker 1: This podcast is recorded on gadigal Land Always was, Always
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  Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land.
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  Speaker 2: Hey jis, I'm sal and I'm out.
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  Speaker 3: This is Too Broke Chicks, a show that shares life
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  Speaker 3: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.
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  Speaker 3: And today we are joined by the fabulous Jolly Malcolm. Ah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so excited to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, so excited to have you
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  Speaker 3: on because we're talking twenty twenty five fashion trends and
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  Speaker 3: how to hone in your personal style and you are
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  Speaker 3: a certified, qualified fashion queen.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I mean, you said it, not me.
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  Speaker 2: You have to put that quote in your Instagram Bioeh
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 5: I'm actually going to change it as soon as we leave.
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  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm putting in. I'm going to put
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  Speaker 5: two breachics on. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: You're a university lecturer, Yes I am.
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  Speaker 4: I've been there for like oh two years now, and it's.
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  Speaker 5: Just been such a crazy ride. Like I I'm not
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  Speaker 5: qualified for teaching at all, Like I got like literally
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  Speaker 5: at all. I got hired as industry and it's just
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  Speaker 5: been the craziest learning on the job experience.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm so grateful for it.
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  Speaker 5: My students are the best, and they're all like at
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  Speaker 5: most like six years younger than me, So it's just
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  Speaker 5: so nice I think for them as well, to have
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  Speaker 5: somebody they can connect to that I says what we're
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  Speaker 5: talking about, like, so yeah, it's just been so surreal
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  Speaker 5: but very overwhelming.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I wish I had someone as called
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  Speaker 6: as you teaching me when I was in Uni.
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  Speaker 3: I know too.
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  Speaker 4: Thank god they're getting on it now.
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  Speaker 2: And you also worked at Vogue too, right I did.
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  Speaker 4: I worked at Vogue for I think a year and
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  Speaker 4: a bit.
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  Speaker 5: That was like my first moment where I was like,
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  Speaker 5: oh shit, I've made it, like this is it And
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  Speaker 5: it was again the craziest thing ever. I just kind
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  Speaker 5: of like my friend basically messaged me and was like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you've applied for this job, right, like you'd be perfect
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  Speaker 5: for it, And I was like, I had no idea
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  Speaker 5: this was running. It was twenty minutes before the applications closed,
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  Speaker 5: and I had to sit in my room and like
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  Speaker 5: manically like put something together.
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  Speaker 4: Basically just went like, hey, it.
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  Speaker 5: Was a video presentation, so hey, like I saw this
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  Speaker 5: twenty minutes before it closed. Here's my social media because
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  Speaker 5: I'd been making videos for myself, like not as like
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  Speaker 5: a job, but just like for fun. Yeah, like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: this is what I can do, Like if you're interested,
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  Speaker 5: contact me. They called me the next morning and I
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  Speaker 5: went through all the rounds and it was so scary,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, you know what, no matter what,
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  Speaker 5: this has been an amazing experience, even just to be considered.
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  Speaker 4: For this and for Vogue, you know what.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, like something that I never thought i'd be
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  Speaker 5: able to do. And you know, I still have like
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  Speaker 5: so much love and respect for the people that I
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  Speaker 5: got to do so many amazing things. But I was
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  Speaker 5: like interviewing people doing jobs for like fucking card Yeah
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like it was just so insane.
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  Speaker 5: And also they gave me full creative controls. So when
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  Speaker 5: I went in that I am such a Capricorn rising,
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  Speaker 5: like I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Such a boss.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, if I'm going to come in
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  Speaker 5: and do this like Vogue Australia, you know sometimes caters
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  Speaker 5: a little bit older, So I was like, I want
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  Speaker 5: to do something for young people. If you're going on TikTok,
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  Speaker 5: if you're going on all these things, I want to
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  Speaker 5: make this for young people and for them to just
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  Speaker 5: go yep, go for we trust you was just again
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  Speaker 5: the most surreal thing ever.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I had the best time there.
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  Speaker 5: It was amazing and like I wouldn't be where I
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  Speaker 5: am now without them, and I'm so grateful for that.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 6: Did you feel like you were literally that like scene
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  Speaker 6: in like a two thousands journal list rom com And
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  Speaker 6: like suddenly I see is like playing in the background,
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  Speaker 6: like trotting with a coffee and that, and like this
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  Speaker 6: is my casual outfit. So I was showing up in
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  Speaker 6: like my fancier versions of this every day because I'd
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  Speaker 6: only go in like one or two days a week.
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  Speaker 6: So every time I would show up and I would
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  Speaker 6: be doing them most and I was like, I'm living
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  Speaker 6: the fantasy guy, Like I'm winning so far. How cool
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  Speaker 6: is it when you have those moments and you're like,
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  Speaker 6: fuck my, like eight year old self would be peeing
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  Speaker 6: their pants right now, like when they.
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  Speaker 2: See your life and you're like yes.
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  Speaker 3: So we love to start our episodes with our guests
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  Speaker 3: with a life lesson the week, So would you like
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  Speaker 3: to kick us off?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Sure, I think from everything that I've learned this week,
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  Speaker 5: we should be allowing ourselves to rot and not feel
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  Speaker 5: bad about it. I was just saying to you guys
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  Speaker 5: that yesterday my girlfriend and I totally just like rot
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  Speaker 5: it in bed and like did nothing and it was awesome.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, she worked, but like I just played video games,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, I can't let myself feel bad
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  Speaker 5: about this. Like I had so many things that I
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  Speaker 5: had to do, and I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: my body just needs this and I need to let
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  Speaker 5: myself not feel bad to sit in bed and play.
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  Speaker 4: Video games all day because my body needs it.
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  Speaker 5: Because I feel like, especially when we're doing something like
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  Speaker 5: this where it like relies on us as people so
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  Speaker 5: much in our own consistency and work ethic and all
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  Speaker 5: of that, you're just pushing yourself so hard all the time.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like everybody is, but like good example,
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  Speaker 5: so to just like sit when I sit down, I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I have seventy five things to do, and I feel
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  Speaker 5: so bad that I'm sitting down for like twenty minutes
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  Speaker 5: to like chill. So I think, just yeah, allowing yourself
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  Speaker 5: to rot is very important.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and especially at the start of the year as well,
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  Speaker 3: when all of us are like, No, now's the time
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  Speaker 3: to like grind, hear all our goals blah blah. That's great,
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  Speaker 3: But if your body's and mind is telling you, I
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  Speaker 3: need to write, lean into it, because if you're in
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  Speaker 3: half rot mode, it doesn't count. You may be working.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to if you feel bad about rotting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you know love that.
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  Speaker 2: What's your life lesson?
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  Speaker 4: Sally Belly?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, my life lesson is kind of in the fashion
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  Speaker 3: and styling, but it's a bit more of an earnest one,
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  Speaker 3: and it's that your arms aren't ruining your outfit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think I need to elaborate, but
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  Speaker 3: that's just a reminder to everybody. You don't have to
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  Speaker 3: look a certain way to wear anything that you like.
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  Speaker 3: Please wear your arms out if you want to, Please
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  Speaker 3: wear your legs out if you want to. What's yours?
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  Speaker 4: Mine is No.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna say this one, but I actually feel
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  Speaker 6: really safe. So I've actually already told all about this.
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  Speaker 6: But I watched a TikTok at and I fell for
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  Speaker 6: it and it's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 6: But anyway, I'm like trying to curb my like soft
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  Speaker 6: drink addiction, and I saw these like probiotic soda drinks
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  Speaker 6: come up and I was like, these looks so young.
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  Speaker 6: It was like pink lemonade, lemon lime, and I was like, yum.
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  Speaker 2: I had one and it was so young. I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: It was great.
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  Speaker 6: For the next twenty four to forty eight hours, I
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  Speaker 6: have never shit so much in my.
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  Speaker 2: Entire life, like what is happening?
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  Speaker 6: Like it was crazy that I was like, when does
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  Speaker 6: the probiotic stop probiotic ing?
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  Speaker 2: Like is it just resetting?
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  Speaker 6: I bought three cans and I've been too scared to
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  Speaker 6: have any more because I don't know if I don't
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  Speaker 6: know if it was that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was.
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  Speaker 2: Something at eight.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm just I'm I'll check back in next week.
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  Speaker 6: I'll let everyone know how that goes. Everyone's like, please
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  Speaker 6: don't Well.
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  Speaker 3: Now that we all know each other inside and out
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  Speaker 3: quite literally, let's get into the episode. So, Jollie, we
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  Speaker 3: want to start with a very important question. What are
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  Speaker 3: the fashion trends we're going to see in twenty twenty five?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I think there are two big ones that at
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  Speaker 5: least I'm sort of thinking are going to come up
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  Speaker 5: the first one. I'm going to explain this terribly, but
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  Speaker 5: just like trust me here, there's this like Mermaid nautical
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  Speaker 5: c person kind of vibe happening right now, and I
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  Speaker 5: think like sequence is a big part of that. We've
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  Speaker 5: been seeing sequence quite a lot. I don't think they're
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  Speaker 5: going to go anywhere. A lot of stripes are going
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  Speaker 5: to be in this year, again leading into that nautical theme.
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  Speaker 5: And then also I think a really good example of
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  Speaker 5: what I'm talking about is the meumu SS twenty five runway.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was where they had these like incredible
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  Speaker 5: like one piece swimsuits, which I've been waiting to come
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  Speaker 5: back since I was like ten years old, by the way,
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  Speaker 5: like really like cool ones with the cutouts and all
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  Speaker 5: of that, and like little tiny swim shorts with like
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  Speaker 5: polos and stuff like that. I think that's a really
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  Speaker 5: good example of kind of what I think we're going
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  Speaker 5: to be seeing this year. I think for the last
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  Speaker 5: few years it's been like what Meumi does then trickles
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  Speaker 5: down into everything else.
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  Speaker 4: I think ever since they brought out that collection with
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  Speaker 4: like little pleated skirts.
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  Speaker 5: And stuff like that, it's, yeah, ever since then, it's
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  Speaker 5: just been what do they do? We're taking it, So
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  Speaker 5: I think that's definitely going to be here. I also think,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm really excited for this one because I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: allowed to participate in this, Thank you Mum. The Boho
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  Speaker 5: twenty fourteen like Coachella era vibe, it's definitely coming back.
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  Speaker 5: Swede is everywhere, yeah, which I don't know if this
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  Speaker 5: is also coming up on your for you pages, but
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  Speaker 5: everybody's wearing the Isabelle Morant sneaker wedges again. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like that's the start of the boho
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  Speaker 5: trend coming back in, if you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that's definitely it.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's gonna be a lot of micro trends
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  Speaker 5: in between, but I think everything's going to kind of
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  Speaker 5: fall from those trickle down from that. I also think yellow,
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  Speaker 5: like butter yellow again, We've been seeing it a bit,
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  Speaker 5: but I think that it's definitely going to have its
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  Speaker 5: moment this year, which I'm really excited for. I love
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  Speaker 5: Buddy yellow, and I think it's so like it works
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  Speaker 5: with every season, it works in every outfit, wherever you
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  Speaker 5: put it, it just works.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that, But what do you guys, say,
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  Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of the boho but also the
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  Speaker 3: boho biker, which I'm like, this is perfect because that
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  Speaker 3: is literally my wardrobe. And what I love about that
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  Speaker 3: trend not only is that it really leans into like
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  Speaker 3: the Mary, Kate and Ashley of it all, which they're
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  Speaker 3: always like my north star with anything fashion. But you
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  Speaker 3: can thrift so much of that, yeah, which is what
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  Speaker 3: I hope people do because that's also where you're going
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  Speaker 3: to get the better quality things at a better price point.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm hoping to see, and I'll be
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  Speaker 3: leaning into whether it's trending or not.
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  Speaker 6: I think we're also going to see a lot more
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  Speaker 6: of like vintage graphic teas. That is like one question
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  Speaker 6: that I think I've been getting so much people being like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: where's that tea from?
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  Speaker 2: Where's it?
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  Speaker 6: And I'm like, it's vintage Dad's tea from like the eighties.
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  Speaker 2: He got rid off and he will probably forever.
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  Speaker 6: Regret, Like they're just they're the best teas in the
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  Speaker 6: world because they're always so like thin and baggy and
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  Speaker 6: like flowy and just.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect that I think that's the thing we're going to see.
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  Speaker 6: But the thing with Swede as well that that is
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  Speaker 6: so easy to thrif, Like, go on Deep Hop search
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  Speaker 6: men's Swede jacket and there's so many.
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  Speaker 2: They're like thirty bucks.
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  Speaker 4: It's perfect. I love it. There's also so much Swede
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  Speaker 4: at markets.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like whenever you go to any market, at least
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  Speaker 5: in Sydney, there's always so much swayen and I feel
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  Speaker 5: like everybody just kind of looks past it, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: Swede is also such an investment for the rest of
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  Speaker 5: your life. I feel like, yes, Swede, with what we're doing,
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  Speaker 5: is going to be a big trend.
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  Speaker 4: But Swede never goes away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Swede and leather will always be in fashion,
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  Speaker 3: and they're also very durable materials as well, so it
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  Speaker 3: is something that you can keep in your wardrobe and
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  Speaker 3: if you take care of it, it will last you decades.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, what about the sneaker of the Year, Because I
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  Speaker 6: feel like sneakers have become this huge space, which they
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  Speaker 6: always have been, but especially with like the added ass
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  Speaker 6: sambas and spazules having like the takeoff of the century.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a new sneaker to look out for this year?
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  Speaker 4: I think so.
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  Speaker 5: Now I'm going to say this, and it's going to
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  Speaker 5: upset people, myself included. I think Sambas and Gazelles in
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  Speaker 5: terms of trend have had their time.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still going to wear my Gazell's every single day
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  Speaker 5: to everything. Okay, keep that, like, don't throw out your
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  Speaker 5: shoes just because it's trendy, Like wear them. But I
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  Speaker 5: do think that they're not going to be as trendy.
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  Speaker 5: We're not going to be seeing them as much. I
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  Speaker 5: think that for people that still want that sleek look,
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  Speaker 5: I think that the Onyx Super Tigers still having their moment.
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  Speaker 5: I still feel like they haven't reached their peak just yet.
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  Speaker 5: I think they we're going to be seeing a lot
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  Speaker 5: more of those, especially with everybody going to Japan this year.
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  Speaker 4: Why is everyone going to Japan?
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  Speaker 3: I think there was some good flight Cells is the
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  Speaker 3: fucking best and also the best four thrifting. Yeah, especially
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  Speaker 3: graphic T shirts. Should we all wants after?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go. I'm down, Okay, so we're all going
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  Speaker 4: to Japan.
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  Speaker 3: That's great.
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  Speaker 5: On the other end of the spectrum though, for sneakers,
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  Speaker 5: I think that Nike shocks and I think they're Airmax
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  Speaker 5: ninety five the more kind of like bullet looking one
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  Speaker 5: I think we're going to see them a lot this year,
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  Speaker 5: something a little bit bigger, a bit chunky. I've already
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  Speaker 5: started to see them a little bit. And I love
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  Speaker 5: a night shock, you know what I mean, another like shock,
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  Speaker 5: I love a t N. I'm a bit of an
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  Speaker 5: Eshae at heart. But yeah, I think they're definitely gonna
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  Speaker 5: have their moment. And I don't know if this counts
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  Speaker 5: as a sneaker, but I've been seeing this trickle in
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  Speaker 5: a little bit. I think the micro trend shoe for
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty five is going to be those Have you
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  Speaker 5: guys seen those Vibrum five finger shoes? So they're like
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  Speaker 5: they're like basically just like they're almost like a water shoe,
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  Speaker 5: but they liked they literally have like the five like
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  Speaker 5: like a to sock, but it's a shoe.
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  Speaker 4: I've been seeing them, Okay, I was like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I saw a few of my.
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  Speaker 5: Like really fashionable friends wearing them, and I was like,
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  Speaker 5: they look like I want to wear them to Clovelly
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  Speaker 5: Beach because I'm scared of the like water, like I
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't wear them out and about. But then I saw
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  Speaker 5: that model, Paloma Elcesa. She wore them as like a
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  Speaker 5: little ballet flat.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah you need to. Yeah, And I'm like, this is
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  Speaker 4: gonna happen. I think they are gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's kind of like the evolution of the tabby
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  Speaker 3: of Yeah, two completely different shoes, but in terms of
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  Speaker 3: the toecitrated.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think with sneakers especially, the best thing you
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  Speaker 6: can do is just have a look at every brand,
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  Speaker 6: even like the smaller ones like a Lowhas which are
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  Speaker 6: more known for boots, They've got really cool sneakers, and
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  Speaker 6: try and find one that maybe isn't trending, and so
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  Speaker 6: that's the one that you genuinely like because I think
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  Speaker 6: exactly what you're saying, Like, you know, Sambas and Gazelle's
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  Speaker 6: had this massive boom, and then it's that thing of
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  Speaker 6: being like when a trend is such a big boom,
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  Speaker 6: it becomes so signature to a time in space, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I mean, especially though, Yeah, so it's not
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  Speaker 6: associated with a decade.
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  Speaker 3: It's associated with a few months or yeah, even weeks
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  Speaker 3: in a year. It's very different, I would say, in
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  Speaker 3: the last even five years in comparison to previous times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you briefly touched on this when you were talking about
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  Speaker 3: Mewmeir and how they really influence sort of the trends
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  Speaker 3: that we do see. But what's the difference between a
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  Speaker 3: trend and a micro trend?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I this is what I think.
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  Speaker 5: This is not the like dictionary definition, but I'm just
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  Speaker 5: gonna run with it here. So for me, a trend
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  Speaker 5: is something like sagegreen. Okay, it takes sage green for
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  Speaker 5: an example. We saw it for quite a few years.
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  Speaker 5: We saw it not only in fashion, we saw it
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  Speaker 5: in you know, interior design and in so many other
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: places in a lot of art. Sage green was really everywhere,
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: like you know that specific tone, like you know how
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: there's like millennial pink. I feel like it's gonna be
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: like gen Z sagegreen, Like it's that kind of thing.
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: And it was around for so long. And I think
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: that in itself is a trend because everybody also can
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: get involved in that in whatever way they wish, And
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: it stayed around for a really long period. I mean
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: it's still around, you know what I mean, Like I'm
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: talking about like this, but it's not. But I think
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: that a micro trend is something that stays to one
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: sort of niche, whether that be as big a niche
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: as like fashion general or something more specific like TikTok
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: fashion or the Galllie Pops or like whatever it may be.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: So an example sticking with the green theme would be like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: do you guys remember that House of Sunny dress? It
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: was like green and fluffy and like Kendall Jenna Warri. Yes,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: that was everywhere for like four months and then it
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: was in every single op shop everywhere. Same with that
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: Amazon corset that's been going that went around last year.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: You know, it's a green one. It's got like this
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: like yellow trim around it. Yeah, that was like three
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: weeks where everybody was wearing that and then it just
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: completely disappeared. And again I just see it every time
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: I go op shopping. I see at least one. I
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: think that's more of my co trend is like something
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: that's very short, like the Amazon Courset's not in interior
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: design or in art or whatever it is, you know
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: what I mean. Like, Yeah, it's something that's very specific
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: to an audience. And again like specific to an audience
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: in sterense of like I'm gonna My sister is my
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: best friend and I love her, but we are very
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: different styles and my sister and I will hang out
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: with each other and she'd be like, oh my god,
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: did you see this dress? And I'd be like, no,
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: did you see these shoes? And we're just like, oh
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: my god, they're so trending. How have you not heard
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: about this? It's because we're in different spheres, you know
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: what I mean.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: It's like what side of TikTok are you on? Yeah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: it's essentially to that level of nationness. It's like cultures
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: down to a product.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, I think as well.
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: Another example we were talking about was like how micro
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: shorts and micro skirts are like a trend, but then
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: within that and under that there's like the ruffle shorts.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: How like that's probably more of a micro trend. Yeah,
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: it's so specific.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Well that immediately will be like BTV twenty four twenty five,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: like that's exactly where my head goes now, whereas micro
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: minis or micro shorts that sort of like the last
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: two years. Yeah, a few different iterations, but that particular
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: item is like that festival this New year, and that's
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: where it lives. Though.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Oh I love them. They look you.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: I was saying a few months ago that it was
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: like one of my favorite trends I was excited to see.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: I think there is horrible Yeah.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: But no, I agree micro micro shorts and micro minis
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: and stuff like that have definitely been a trend. But yeah,
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: those tiny little things or like the specifically, and I
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: don't want to say this as a micro tranks, I
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: love her so.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Much, but the hierarch striped shorts. I don't know if
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: you guys do this.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I see it every for I go to no They're
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: like they're just like these plain little stripe shorts, and
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: like I wear.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Them all the time.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I'm saying that they're gonna be but I think that
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: they're another sort of iteration of the micro shorts trend.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Like I think, like you said, when you jump into it,
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: there's so many different things to move around with.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: So I'm curious, though, what micro trends are you unsubscribing
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: from in twenty twenty five?
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: This is hard less.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Oh I'm gonna get canceled, okay, I personally. One that
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I am not going to get involved in is I've
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: been seeing a lot of people wearing polo shirts recently.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: And yes, polo shirts like a classic and whatever, but
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: I think that the way that people are wearing, like again,
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: this mew meuesque, very tight fitted with like the stripes
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: along and all that sort of stuff, is just not
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: saying I can do it all. There's that lioness one
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: that I feel like everybody's been wearing. I think that's
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: a micro trend that I'm personally.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: It's like the baby tea. It's like a Polo baby tea.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's got all the stripes on it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: But I also think that something that I'm learning to
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: unsubscribe from is I feel like we have this idea
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: micro trends are the devil, right, And yeah, sure there's
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: a lot of negative things to them, but if you
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: want to jump on a micro trend that you think
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: works for you, don't feel like, oh it's.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: A micro trend, I can't do it. Okay.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: The skut that I'm wearing, for example, it's like chopped
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: up plaids. It's like mismatched, it's whatever. And like when
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I bought this, yeah, probably was a micro trend, you
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. But that was like three years
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: ago and I still wear this to death. And if
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I hadn't jumped on that trend, my style wouldn't be
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: where it is now because this is like my most
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: worn piece in my wardrobe. So I think unsubscribing from
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: micro trends is the devil is devil is the thing
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: that I'm unscribing.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Them, Like, if you like it, wear it, Yeah, how
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: do you know?
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Like how do you know if you like something because
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: you genuinely like it or if the marketing is marketing?
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: I think that Okay, So I literally like I teach marketing,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: so like it's not like I feel like I'm very
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: attuned to it. But if you all of a sudden
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: see every single influencer with a Louis Vuitton never fall back,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: that's marketing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Diva, Like that's not, that's not.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: That's not.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Oh I think that I like and you know what,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I never feels great. It's great bag.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: But I'm saying they pushed it in marketing to make
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: you think that you really needed it because other people hadn't.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: What I do personally is I try sit on things
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: for as long as I can, even if it's a microtrender.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: If it's not, it takes me like two to three
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: months to buy something, even if I'm like it's a
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: microtrone whatever. If I still want it that time later,
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I go for it. But really, sitting on it really
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: helps because the marketing could be great. You could still
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: love it, you know what I mean, Like so many
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: people love their never full bags.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think just sitting.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: On it and thinking about it is probably the best thing,
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: because again, microtrends sometimes after you sometimes.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I agree, I think also imagining how it will work
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: with your existing wardrobe. Yeah, so what would I actually
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: pair this with? Because I think that can help you realize,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: oh no, this actually is in life with my astatic
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: and what I like in the silhouettes that I typically enjoy.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Whereas if you're like, but I'd actually have to buy
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: this top and then these shoes to make this outfit work,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: then maybe it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Isn't for you. A hundred p clearly agree.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: What are the cool girl brands and creators that we
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: should be following and paying attention to in twenty twenty five?
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, I want to try stick Ozzie here, and I'm
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: gonna start off by shamelessly plugging my mum's jewelry brand,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: So all the jury that I'm wearing is actually from
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: my mum's brand. I designed with her sometimes and we've
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: been doing it for a while, but I think my
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: mum has been doing markets for a really long time,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: and now she's really trying to push into online and
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: she's like trying in best but I'm trying to help
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: her out wherever I can. But it's Kaz Mexico, Oka
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Zed Mexico. Her name's Kadz. The Jory's made in Mexico.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: She's very creative in terms of other like looking at
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: like clothing and stuff like that. I think there's obviously
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: the big ones, like if you have been to Melbourne,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: you've seen Carla Laidlaw before. She does incredible from tracksuits
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: to gorgeous gowns at the most recent fashion week, Like
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: she's doing incredible things, and also one of the nicest
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: people that I've ever met, Like she's super super nice.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Every time I see her, she's like, oh my god,
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I can't believe you know me. And in
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: the same sort of vein Mode Mischief. It's been her
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: year for the last few years Mode Mischief Studios. But
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: I think that she's just going to continue to skyrocket.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: She's also a very good friend of mine, one of
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: the nicest people in the whole entire world. She deserves
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: all the success that she's having. But again, you've definitely
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: seen at least one of her pieces. Hey, viblewars them
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: all the time, Like, it's amazing. Two brands that I
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: really have my eye on this year that are like
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: literally have just released their first groups of products is
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Neve Robin Jury. I recently picked some stuff up from her.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: It's her first collection. It's a lot of plaids and
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: mismatched and like spots and all these things, and it's
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: just like so beautiful how she puts all of these
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: things together, and it's just amazing.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: She's coming out of Perth. I think she's just finished
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: design school.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Like she's amazing persons, some fucking incredible designers. Yeah, amazing
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: the amount of times I find like a small brand
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: that I'm like obsessed, they're always from Perth.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, But yeah, she's amazed by Ellen with
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Love Yeah, is also out of Perth.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Love her to death. Also, I got these shoes recently.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: They're posted them on TikTok and they really like separated everyone.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Because we're sticking with the toe thing here.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Apologies, I keep bringing up feet feet actually scam me,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: but whatever, I am.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I'm being really brave.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: It's this brand called Curtsy Toes and they make these
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: incredible heels that are like thongs, but for each individual it's.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, yeah, like I need a visual.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: They're amazing and yeah, they do really really cool stuff
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: and this is the their first launch at least that
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: I can see is these shoes that I just got.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And they're really cool.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: They're really cool. They're really really.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Cool, They're funky, and they're actually really comfy. Like I
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: think that they did it with like foot care in
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: mind or something like that. I'm not too sure in
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: terms of people that I think that we should watch.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: There's so many people that I could say, but the
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: one that I have been looking at a lot, Am
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: from Love Island is really I love Okay. I mean
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: this no tin, no shade and all the respect in
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: the world, but majority of people that come out of
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Love Island end up being fast fashioned divas and like,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: get your bag.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I respect your hustle. But am like.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: She works at So Familiar, which is one of the
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: coolest vintage stores in the city. She has incredible vintage taste.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: She's working at like incredible small brands she did a
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: shoot with another brand that I love, jem Daddy Slim
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: the other day, and I just think, I'm so excited
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: to see what she does with this platform that she's got,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: because she's just doing really sick things. So yeah, I'm
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: really excited to see her as well. I think we
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: should keep her our eyes on her this year.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I love cool girl, Yeah, who are your cool girls?
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Who do you guys think you? And I'm never gonna
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: come in.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: Also, Zee's mom, Yeah, I love.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Her calm and if you're watching this, I love you.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: There's also a creator.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: I think her name is Jane, I'll need to link
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: it in the description. And she's the epitome of like
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: the modern day Daisy Jones and love Stevie Nicks. Like
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: her whole thing is like she layers like flowy dresses
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: with like band teas, like boots, like it's like really
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: feminine rock.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And I every time I'm like what do I wear?
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: I like just go to her page and just like
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: watch her videos and she's got like the most amazing bangs.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, alex not, we said.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: No bangs this year, and I'm like, but they look good,
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, no, but yeah, she's hot and I
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: have the biggest crush on her.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Fair I want to throw out two more people that
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: I think deserve their flowers really quick, because I feel
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: like nobody's really.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Talking about them as much.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Firstly, there's this girl who you guys need to look up,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Candy Bratt on Instagram and on TikTok. She again, is
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: one of my good I'm so grateful to have incredible
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: creative people around me. She's one of my really good friends,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: and I think she deserves her flowers. She's going to
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: the shops in John Galiano, you know what I mean.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Like she is cool.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: She is the epitome of like, I don't care what
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: anyone thinks and I'm just gonna wear what I want
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: and it's gonna look good. And I am obsessed with that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: And also she's a makeup girl. But I think she
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: deserves her fashion flowers. I get another one of my friends, Rowi, saying, oh, yeah, incredible.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: If I could have one person's wardrobe, it would be Rowi's.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: She is obviously so ethereally beautiful and does the most
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: amazing makeup, but her fashion taste is also able.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like she never.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Misses never one.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: It's so annoying because every time every time I see her,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I'm like, my outfits so cute, and then she shows
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: up and.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you bitch, you were so good.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: But yes, those are the people I think we should
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: look for. I'm obsessed with them. But you need to
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: send me these people. Yes, yeah, Atar group, please love it?
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Every time we.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Exactly I love it. What is your number one tip?
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Though, I'm finding your personal style, because I think this
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: is one of the hardest things to do, especially when
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: there is so much out there of being like this
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: is cool and and you're like, I don't even know
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: where I sit. So what would your recommendation be for
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: people that feel like that?
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: I think I my biggest thing right, And I'm going
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: to say two things here. Number one, I'm going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: say the thing that everybody tells you not to say,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: which is go on Pinterest, go on Instagram, find.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Things you like, recreate them in your own way.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Don't necessarily copy someone like word for word out outfit,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: but start taking inspiration from them. If this is like, Okay,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I'm just starying to jump off, I don't know where
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: to go, I think that's really really good way.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: To do it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Obviously, do it in a nice way and like make
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: it your own. But I think that's really good. But
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: also find inspiration from things that aren't fashion. So for example,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: like I know one of my friends finds a lot
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: of inspiration from like flowers and like the colors in
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: them and the way they sit and stuff like that, and.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I think that's really cool.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I take a lot of inspiration from like sort of
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: like older like medieval. I'm a real nerd, so I
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: take a lot of inspiration from medieval areas and stuff
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: like that. Like my shirt has a gargoyle on it,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, and I'm walking around
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: in my thank here and I'm walking around in my
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: wizard T shirt all the time, and like, but I'm
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: making it my own and I'm making it cool. And
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I think find your interests that you love and work
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: them into what you wear. Also just try it, you
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: never know, borrow your friends stuff, see what you like
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: on yourself, and just hope for the best.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I think that so much of what.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: I learned for fashion is trial and error and just
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: taking inspiration from really random places and being like that'd
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: be cool. And you know what, some of my outfits
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: are hideous that my archive on Instagram is huge. But yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: I think that would definitely be.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: My main tip.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Do you have a formula for the perfect outfit?
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: No, I think more than having like a formula for
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: a perfect outfit, I think instead it's better to focus
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: on safe outfits.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: So what like, for example, I was quite nervous to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: come on the show.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to wear something that was really safe
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: and was really comfortable to me. So for example, this
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: skirt that I brought up before, I wear it all
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: the time. It's really easy. My shoes are very comfortable
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and something that I know goes well because I've worn
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: it all the time.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Same with this shirt. It's just comfortable. I feel like
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: myself in it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: And I think rather than working out the perfect outfit,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: because I think the perfect outfit doesn't necessarily exist. Our
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: styles are ever changing and whatever growing. But working out
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: what's safe for you instead, I think is way more important.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: So working out.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: If I wear this outfit, I'm going to feel like myself.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to feel uncomfortable. I'm going to feel
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: really good about myself. I feel like that's something that's
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: more important to focus on. Than the perfect outfit. Does
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: that make sense totally?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I know what your perfect outfit is.
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  Speaker 6: Ah, it's okay, okay, So it's a flip skirt with
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: a band tea allowed, the jacket and cowboy boots. Done.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect, so comfy?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Ye, Yours would be mum jeans, also a band tea
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  Speaker 3: and probably a denim jacket. Yeah, and cowboy.
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  Speaker 2: Boots double dnim graphic tea per Cowboy roads. Yeah. Done.
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  Speaker 3: I like that though, because I think that is a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: formula in its own way, because comfort equals confidence. Yeah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: And that's so much part of owning your personal style
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: is being comfortable in the things you're wearing and in
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: your own skin.
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  Speaker 2: So I love that.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's actually the best way to go about it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: It's been like, yeah, the perfect outfit doesn't exist, it's
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: the perfect way you feel, what makes you feel good,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: what makes.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: You feel perfect. Because that's the thing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I think that the perfect outfit is different for everybody
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: appear and say, oh my perfect outfit is this. Somebody's
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: listening to this, It's gonna be like, shut up. So
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: I think instead everybody has their safe outfit, which is
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: their perfect outfit for them.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: How do you get out of the mindset of I
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: just can't pull that off. How do you start testing
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: and trialing like what you were saying before and having
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: fun with new pieces that are a little bit further
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: from your comfort zone. How do you have confidence in
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: trying new things?
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: So I was actually talking to my girlfriend about this
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: the other night, and we came up with two different
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: answers that I think both fit hit, but I think
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: hers is better.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go with us.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: First, love you, bab, and I think that this will
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: make this can sound really bitchy, but then it will
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: make sense. Maybe you can't pull it off. Okay, So no,
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: but what I mean by that is, Okay, I might
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: see someone walking down the street, okay, wearing this incredible
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: chuol dress that's got these amazing colors running through it,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: and I see that and I'm like, oh my god,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: I love that.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I could never pull that off. I could never wear that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: So instead of going I'm going to buy that outfit
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: that's going to make me feel really uncomfortable, to take
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: me out of my comfort zone and I'm not going
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: to feel confident in myself. What aspects of that do
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: I like? Do I like that it's a big shape.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Do I like the colors that are in it? Do
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: I like that it's tool? And want to give that
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: a go and find something that matches with that instead
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: that is still going to match within your comfort zone,
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: because then you're going to feel confident in it. You're
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: going to feel like you participated, and you can sort
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: of work your way up to it, which brings me
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: to my point, which also kind of works. If you
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: really want to wear that big tool dress. Okay, hypothetically,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: let's say it's blue and it's chuol and it's amazing,
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: try and find something that's blue. Okay, maybe you've never
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: worn something that blue before and you want to try it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Try add that into your wardrobe first, whether it be
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: a headband or an eyeshadow or whatever it is, just
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: add that into your wardrobe first.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: See how that goes.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: If you start to feel comfortable with that and you're like, okay,
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: I'm ready to take the next step, maybe add the
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: pattern that's on it into your wardrobe, wear it under
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: a card again, start wearing it out, see how you
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: feel about it, and if you're enjoying that from that point,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: then you can take that final Okay, I think I'm
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: ready to wear that dress and then push that. Don't
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: feel like you have to go from zero to one hundred.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Take your time with it, because again, you're gonna feel
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: so much more comfortable and you put it on. If
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: you do that and then you still get to wear that.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: It might not be immediately, you might not get that
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: instant gratification, but you'll get there eventually, if that makes sense.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, So that beautiful.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Well what's your biggest life lesson in terms of fashion
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: and style so far?
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Again, it's gonna sound bit cheaper.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: I mean it, with all the love in the world,
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: nobody cares about you that much. Now, I mean that
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: in the nice so possibly something that I've had to
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: learn as well. But if you want to wear that outfit,
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: if you want to start doing something different with your hair,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: if you want to start acting a different way, people
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: might think about it for a second, but then they're
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: going to go on with their lives. Everybody's so caught
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: up in what they're doing that it's not going to
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: matter that much to them. And at the end of
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: the day, you don't want to like be old and
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: thinking I wish I had just dressed for myself to
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: be able to say I did everything for me and
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: I felt comfortable in what I was doing and I
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: feel like I was my best self presenting. So yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I would say that is in the nicest way possible.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: It's not that serious and nobody cares.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hit on a show solutely. But before we
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: let you go, where can the cheekys find you?
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, just Jolie Malcolm. I will be the
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: j O E L y.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yay. Thank you so much for coming on.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure. This has been amazing.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much, been so nice to hang out
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: with you guys.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Thanks to you chicks, thanks for having us in your
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: ear holes.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: We love to be here.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: And thank you to m ik Made for making today's
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: episode happened. Bye, Cheers,