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Kent Hovind OFFICIAL Vs AtheistJr Can #atheists Prove #evolution ? · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Genes are information, they're coded information, it's even
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  looks like computer information. I mean a chromosome is a great
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  long and pewter tape. It's linear runs. 11 dimensional
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  digital code. It's not binary, it's
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  quaternary. But apart from that it's just
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  the same as as computer tape. It's read in sequence.
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  It's copied and pasted from one part of the organism.
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  Mm to another in just the same way as as a computer programmer
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  would copy and paste. So biology has turned into into
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  computer science copied and pasted from one part of the
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  organism to another in just the same way.
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  As as a computer programmer would copy and paste as a
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  computer programmer would copy and paste.
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  What I learned from from your book which I find stunningly
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  exciting is that it is literally nothing.
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  It is literally nothing. It is literally nothing.
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  Of course. Common Sense doesn't allow you
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  to get something from nothing. That's why.
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  It's interesting is got to be interesting in order to give
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  rise to the universe at all. Something pretty mysterious had
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  to give rise to the origin of the universe.
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  Something pretty mysterious had to give rise to the origin of
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  the universe something Pretty mysterious had to give rise to
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  the origin of the universe. It is literally nothing.
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  It is literally in something, nothing or dispute.
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  Exactly what what's meant by nothing but whatever it is.
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  It's very, very simple. And why is that funny?
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  Well, I think it's a bit funny to be trying to Define nothing.
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  Surely. Have you received Jesus Christ
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  as your lord and savior upon your profession of faith?
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  And it will be Deus is divine command.
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  I baptize you. My sister and the name of the
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  father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit buried in the likeness of
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  his death, raised to walk in newness of Life.
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  All right. Grab a towel, amen.
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  All right. Jeff.
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  Kent hovind has been serving the lord, all of his life, he loves
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  people, he loves what he does. He does debates and discussions
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  on the standing for truth Channel if you'd like to see him
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  in the action. He will also be doing shows on
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  God TV radio, where he will answer questions and people will
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  be able to participate in the conversation.
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  If you'd like to check out his YouTube channel, it is Kent
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  hovind official. And you can also check out his
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  links. You can see, as website,
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  If you would like to get in contact with him, God bless.
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  All right. Let's get you on the main
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  screen. God is good.
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  God is good. If you don't mind while we're
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  waiting for people to get in and Proverbs to fix, would you be
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  able to tell me what your favorite book is that you have
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  written as well as your favorite DVD that you participated in?
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  Hmm? What a tough one.
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  I'm a read a holic. I read lots of stuff.
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  I guess, it depends on which topic.
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  I love to read about the supposed contradictions in the
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  Bible. Peter Ruckman, Pastor down in
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  Pensacola, he was rude. Crude Christ mean, brilliant
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  died. Couple years ago, he wrote a
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  great book called the errors in the King, James Bible and joy,
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  that one in the minds of men by Ian.
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  Taylor was talking about creation Evolution.
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  That's a great one. It's a And so, how many pages is
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  this thing? Yeah, almost 500 pages.
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  It's fabulous on the called in the minds of men.
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  That one's a classic so I guess depends on the topic.
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  The one I wrote about the prison system is the best in the world
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  about the why we should not even have a prison system called The
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  Kettle in the Bible. Under, if you break the law, you
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  get a fine. You steal my sheep, you pay back
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  for sheep. Everybody goes home happy.
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  I got 3 more sheep, you know. So in the now you steal my
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  sheep, you go to jail for five years and I got it.
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  Feed you for five years while you're in jail and your family.
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  Misses dad, and lots of bad things happen by putting people
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  in prison. So when I become king, I'm
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  closing down. The whole prison system in the
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  Bible. You find him beat him or kill
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  him. For many things.
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  You could you can Stripes 30, striped, 40 stripes, or for a
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  certain crime, either way everybody goes home that day.
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  No reason to lock them up and pay somebody to watch them and
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  babysit him. So I really, I've been studying
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  a lot on that topic. We are so far off of what God
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  said we should do for punishment.
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  Criminals for certain crimes, did he talk to be executed?
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  Plain and simple. Everybody can move on with their
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  life. So now they lock them up, 20
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  years cost, a fortune, and then if the victim has to worry about
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  the guy getting out in 20 years, say it.
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  Anyway, so I love reading love and stuff like that.
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  Don't think I give a solid answer to that question, without
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  a more specific, what topic, you know.
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  But anyway, go ahead brother. Well, that's what we do.
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  We ask the hard stuff in here. So Kent, I've had an atheist who
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  made these assertions, positive assertions and claims that most
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  people who are in prison or the jail system are religious.
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  However, after doing a whole bunch of research, I discovered
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  that preachers, go into prisons and jails all the time and they
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  convert people over to Christianity.
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  So, it seems to make sense that there's preachers coming in
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  almost every day, according to Answers like an atheist who
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  changes over looking for group or someone to be with, so they
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  can be protected or safe in that type of environment.
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  And plus it's like a social group, right?
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  What your thoughts are now? Well, there are many prison
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  conversions. I was in there for nine years
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  myself. I saw this happen.
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  Some are many are genuine. They really get their life
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  turned around, they get saved and they're great, some are, you
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  know, to be part of a social group, for protection, or
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  whatever. So I can't see the harm.
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  Art. I can, I can hear what they say
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  on their lips and that's about as far as I can go.
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  Then later, you can see if there's a changed life.
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  See, if you plant a seed in the dirt, the seed will start to
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  change things in the dirt. It'll start to grow and expand.
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  If a woman claims she's pregnant, she's received the
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  seed. You should see some changes over
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  the next nine months. After nine months, is he a baby?
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  So, someone claims they've received Christ into their
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  heart, you should see some changes not just in their their
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  vocabulary, but in their actions in Their attitude and their
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  lifestyle. So yeah.
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  But there's their prison conversions that are fake and
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  people get fake conversions. Outside of prison happens all
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  the time, so I let God sort Em Out.
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  Do they usually whenever people do go to prison, are they even
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  ask what their theological views are?
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  Does anybody even concerned himself with that?
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  Well know, sometimes the chaplain will ask them what kind
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  of you know, chaplain, they would like to come there
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  Catholic priests that come in. Sometimes there are Baptist
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  preachers that come in Muslims have their whatever they call
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  their guy, come in. So yeah, it depends what the
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  prison has for. Pot prison population.
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  As far as who comes into your talk or hold services or
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  whatever. I would say most jails and
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  prisons have nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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  There was some one, a while back who was considered one of the
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  most popular serial killers of all time.
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  I plan on playing a clip of it and your ministry, basically
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  sent a lot of information and books.
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  And a lot of things to try to help this person.
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  Unfortunately, they were killed in prison.
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  You probably know who I'm talking about.
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  I'm going to show you the video. I mean if you don't if a person
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  doesn't think that they're there is a God to be accountable to,
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  then then what's the point of trying to modify your behavior
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  to keep it within acceptable ranges?
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  That's how I thought. Anyway, because I always I
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  always believe the lie that evolution is truth.
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  The theory of evolution is true that we all just came from Lime
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  and when we when we died you know that was it it was nothing.
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  So it's the whole Theory cheapens life and started
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  reading books about how the show how evolution is just a couple
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  Eli. There's there's no there's no
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  basis in science to a pole it and I've come to since come to
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  believe that the Lord Jesus Christ.
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  Is the true creator of the heavens and the Earth.
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  So Kent, he actually says, in the full interview that he was
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  sent creationist books. He was sent things by Ministries
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  and all that. And you were talking about this
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  awhile back and interview, you helped out a lot of people in
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  prison, as well as out. Right.
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  Are we said our videos to his prison?
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  I think his dad got him in actually, and that usually have
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  to go through a chaplain to do that, and he gave his heart to
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  the Lord and got saved. It doesn't matter what you've
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  done, how badass in our you've been.
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  God, can save you and forgive you Apostle.
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  Paul was a murderer before. When he was Saul murdered
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  Christians gave his heart to. The Lord got saved and wrote
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  half the New Testament. Yeah, good.
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  God can save anybody. So today, the subject matter is
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  allowing non-believers to try to prove that evolution is true.
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  So if any non-believers want to come in here and actually try to
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  prove and have an open discussion on this, a link is
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  out there. It is also pending the top.
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  I'm a little concerned though, can't because it appears more
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  and more that atheists are getting incredibly frightened to
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  get into a discussion with you. Why do you think this is?
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  Well, I think because it makes them look stupid.
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  They believe they came from a rock, they really do believe
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  that and that's just it's stupid.
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  I've done. 315 debates. Only have one more schedule.
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  I'll take all the atheists in the world on any time.
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  I've done a lot of them and their luck may have more smarter
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  than me. That's not the question.
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  What they believe is raw these family trees, they put in our
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  textbooks for the kids. Yes, boys and girls.
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  You're related to a squirrel in a pine tree.
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  That is just so stupid but that's what they believe.
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  There's no evidence anywhere on the planet historic.
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  Historically in the fossils in reality, watching life, no
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  animal ever produces babies, other than its kind, why would
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  we draw a line on paper between a pine tree and a human and a
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  ladybug. Connecting them with a common
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  ancestor. That's just a stupid at so many
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  levels. It's certainly not science.
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  They believe it though. This textbook says all the many
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  forms of life On Earth today are descended from a common
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  ancestor. Well whoa you have a common
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  ancestor with a raspberry. Oh yeah, they believe that.
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  Hmm found in a population of primitive you and I cellular
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  organisms all came from a single-celled creature.
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  Then it says no traces of those events remain.
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  They draw these family trees, connecting humans and seaweed
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  and sharks all back to a common ancestor.
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  This is just propaganda. So I've debated enough of them
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  that they're kind of afraid to debate now because they realize
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  Well, he makes us look really stupid.
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  That's because it's really stupid.
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  It's not complicated but rather than change what they believe
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  because they like this Theory, this theory that says we all
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  have a common ancestor says there really is.
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  No God and there is no Creator to be accountable to their for.
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  There are no rules. They don't like God's rules, you
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  know, Thou shalt not do, they don't want those rules.
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  So that's the real reason why they're afraid to debate me
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  because they know I'm going to expose what they believe for
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  being dumb and being a religion. And And I'm going to make them
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  really squirm like, wow. Why do I believe such a thing
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  tonight? I'll be doing a session on how
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  to Barnacles make babies every Friday night.
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  We're doing a YouTube on Kent, hovind official, making babies a
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  couple weeks ago. We did the octopus.
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  The mail octopus takes the third arm on the left side, which has
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  sperm on the end of it, reaches up through her nostril, all the
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  way to the back of her head, and deposits.
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  The sperm on the ovary back here, at the back of her brain.
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  How did that evolve? I mean, step by step, how did
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  that evolve? It's not possible.
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  The Barnacles tonight is even worse.
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  It could not have evolved. It's that simple.
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  It had to be created that way, although they don't like that.
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  So it's a really, it's a lifestyle problem that they
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  have, they know, God, if he comes in, might want to make a
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  few changes in their life. That's true.
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  So Kent, there's a concept that they're called the Fermi Paradox
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  in, which it Basically, the concept is, is that they're
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  supposedly 10 trillion planets that exist in the universe, but
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  not one single one, but Earth, allegedly had abiogenesis
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  Revolution work on it. Does that not mean that
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  Evolution has failed 10 trillion times if we don't see it
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  anywhere else, what we don't see it here either.
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  I don't think of failed every time the question of 10 trillion
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  planets that's completely guesswork.
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  We see a lot of stars we assume some have planets going around
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  them but there's been no proof of any planets around any Star
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  except ours the Sun and so they can believe that if they wish
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  that's a imagination. SpongeBob style.
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  Okay. Imagine you can imagine are 10
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  trillion planets but no there's no evidence of people say do you
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  think there's intelligent life on other planets?
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  I say well, no there's no evidence of intelligent life on
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  any other planet and there's really not a lot of evidence of
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  it. Life on this planet.
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  When you look at some of the stuff dumb stuff they teach and
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  believe it's crazy. So I the Fermi Paradox.
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  I'll have to do some more research on that one.
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  That's just a hiding hiding behind ignorance.
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  We don't know. Therefore, must have happened.
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  I'd say, I'd call that it. I'd call that a joke.
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  The only argument of heard against this concept as they
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  say, well, we aren't so technological that we can reach
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  them, but if the you Reverse is sixteen billion or trillion
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  years old, then surely there would have to be some life forms
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  out there that are way more advanced than us that can
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  contact us right back. We're not the most exciting
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  species obviously, but you'd expect at least some kind of
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  phone call. Right?
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  Well, I guess if they wish to believe that all that Star Trek
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  stuff and you know, space travel, and it's a real
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  expensive, waste of money, I think to do all that.
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  This is it. I think God created everything
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  in heaven and earth, and the Bible says Is Adam is the is the
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  father and Eve is the mother of all living.
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  There's no other life forms out there in space there.
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  This is it right here planet Earth.
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  They'll get used to it. In the on the earth is just
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  seems in every single way possible to be extremely special
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  and unique, they are scientist. Even say that we Stephen
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  Hawking's himself said, we are a mathematical impossibility.
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  That is just I mean it sounds like it's got God all over it.
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  Proverbs guy just stepped into the room and Angry Poo man.
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  I guess is how you pronounce his name?
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  How you guys doing? Would you like to ask any
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  questions or get involved in the discussion?
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  Hi fellas. How you guys doing good?
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  It's a angry Pullman. So yeah, I just think it's super
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  cool that Kent hovind's here. I watched him back in 2007 and
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  his arguments really resonated with me.
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  So I just wanted to say what's up Ken Joven?
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  Well, hey, good, I've been doing great.
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  Yeah, I'm uh, I'm involved with a church and I honestly don't
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  think I'd be where I am today if it weren't for your seminars.
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  So I'm just happy to be here. Well, thank you.
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  Those video seminars. Go all over the place.
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  I got it here somewhere. I think I forgot.
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  Who am I It fell on the floor. Okay.
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  Oh yeah. Here we go.
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  We have produced probably 15 million DVDs, and videos and 42
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  languages to get out there and get people say, wrong way or
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  another. Are there any questions for dr.
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  Hovind, that you've always wanted to pick his brain about
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  and now you have your opportunity actually?
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  Yeah. So are you familiar with the
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  chiluba impact? Crater in the Yucatan.
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  Yes, so I've not I've not been there but I've studied it.
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  I know pretty good about it. The go-ahead of course.
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  They it's, you know, hypothesize that that impact crater came
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  from an asteroid that hit the earth 65 million years ago and
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  that's what killed the dinosaurs.
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  I was just wondering if they're all your content and never seen
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  you addresses. So I was just wondering like,
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  you know, where do you think that comes from, or how does
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  that fit into like everything that you've been saying?
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  It wasn't explanation for that impact crater.
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  Right? The globe.
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  Where I can see it here. The Earth has craters quite a
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  few craters out. I'm not sure the exact number
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  they've determined are craters, but the if you watch my video
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  number two, I talk about the original creation.
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  If you read the Genesis story, in Genesis chapter 1 and 2.
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  It says, when God created the Earth, there was water above the
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  firmament later. You see where it says the
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  firmament is where the birds fly and call-ups.
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  On that quickly. But I'd be a kind of a little
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  bit of a long answer to that, the used to be water under the
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  crust of the earth. And when The Fountains of the
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  deep broke open, at the time of Noah's flood, that would have
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  launched things out into orbit. I believe there was a
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  crystalline canopy surrounding the World Before the Flood came
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  it's called The Canopy Theory. I couldn't prove it but I think
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  the evidence points that way clearly airing on get it up this
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  way. So this The Fountains of the
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  deep breaking open. Open the water underneath with
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  all say, ten miles of rock. On top would go shooting out
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  tearing the sides of the crack with it and would end up
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  launching things into space. I believe the meteors that are
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  flying around now and the Comets that are flying around, probably
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  came from Earth during this event.
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  Some of them as the Earth travels around the Sun once a
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  year, it runs into that stuff that was launched off thousands
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  of years ago, it's still drifting around in space like
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  hitting bugs on a windshield. And so I think Yucatan
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  Peninsula. The meteor impact, crater impact
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  crater there had to happen after the flood or else.
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  The flood would have would have wiped it out or it happened.
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  You know, during the latter stages of the flood Noah was in
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  The Arc for a year but we don't know that the flood lasted a
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  year in all places. Some places might have just been
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  under water for a couple weeks. How long would it take to
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  drowned everybody. So I think that let's see
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  pre-flood world I got too many slides here so my answer would
• 22:36
  be I think probably the Yucatan Peninsula meteor crater.
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  Happened toward the end of the flood.
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  And, or after the flood, not certainly not 65 million years
• 22:46
  ago, and it would really upset things on the planet.
• 22:49
  I got pictures here, summer, but if you watch my seminar part
• 22:51
  two, you'll see where I go into this.
• 22:53
  In, great detail, your lots of visuals.
• 22:55
  So people can understand, you have to understand what was the
• 22:58
  original creation like that. Canopy above is why they live to
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  be 900 years old Regenesis 5 I heard it finally.
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  Okay, slide number two 1300 TV. 213.
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  Enter here is a model of the water under the crust of the
• 23:14
  earth. And then the crust maybe 10
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  miles thick and let's see, Giants in the earth and then God
• 23:21
  made three Heavens. The first heaven, where the
• 23:23
  birds fly. Second heaven.
• 23:25
  Where stars are third heaven? Apparently is where he lived God
• 23:28
  lives. So the world was overflowed with
• 23:30
  water. So long answer I would say
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  Yucatan Peninsula, meteor crater impact happened after the flood
• 23:36
  about 4,400 years ago, okay? Yeah, the firmaments definitely
• 23:41
  something that would change conditions on earth that is
• 23:43
  never taken to account of or considered at all.
• 23:46
  But yeah. Like when I read about it and
• 23:50
  the picture they paint of the chaos that ensued after it and
• 23:55
  you mentioned that. Yeah, I definitely would have
• 23:56
  damaged the Earth, but I just wonder like, is there any way to
• 23:58
  know like exactly what would have happened?
• 24:00
  Because they seem to go in great detail of like all the things
• 24:04
  that would happen, you know? Like you know like the smoke
• 24:06
  covered the Earth for I don't know a million years and Then
• 24:09
  the, you know, the rats came out of the holes and then I don't
• 24:14
  know, I just think it's impossible to know like what
• 24:17
  that would have happened, what would have happened?
• 24:20
  But yeah, there's no way to know that kind of stuff.
• 24:23
  A crater impact that size indicate they can can calculate
• 24:29
  they think it hit. I know there was a Behringer
• 24:32
  meteor crater. They did a lot of drilling at
• 24:35
  the bottom trying to find they said, oh it might be a meteor
• 24:37
  down there might be made of something valuable, you know,
• 24:39
  gold or Something. And so they drilled a bunch of
• 24:41
  holes and got nothing Beringer. Did that went broke doing it?
• 24:45
  Then he was out, he was out shooting his 45 caliber pistol,
• 24:48
  I believe into the mud to make a ring to see how deep the bullet
• 24:51
  penetrates to try to do some math and see, you know, how far
• 24:54
  down do I have to go? And he realized when he shot at
• 24:56
  an angle into the mud, it's still made a round hole instead
• 25:00
  of overhaul. He said, well, wait a minute,
• 25:02
  maybe the meteor hit at an angle.
• 25:05
  And made the round crater and the meteors outside the rim of
• 25:08
  the crater underneath. So, he had time to money to
• 25:11
  drill one more hole. He drilled outside and hit
• 25:14
  something and they gave up now, it's a state park, Beringer
• 25:18
  meteor crater. So when we don't know if I'd
• 25:22
  like to visit it one day but I just want to thank you for being
• 25:24
  here and being accessible and answering questions.
• 25:27
  It's cool. Yeah.
• 25:28
  Be glad to help any way I can and I want to strengthen your
• 25:30
  faith. Now here's the problem.
• 25:32
  If you don't if you come away saying wow the Bible is the word
• 25:34
  of God. Now you're accountable to it.
• 25:37
  You better read it. Do what it says, okay.
• 25:42
  Thank you. Nice, having you in poo, if you
• 25:46
  have any more questions or anything that you'd like to
• 25:49
  bring up, we'd be happy to hear what you have anyone out there.
• 25:53
  You're welcome to come in. The link is out there to talk
• 25:55
  with Kent. Have you can't have you?
• 25:59
  You probably heard atheist. Talk about a, this is going to
• 26:03
  be strange, but I think you're going to, you're going to catch
• 26:05
  on to what I'm talking about. But you've heard about atheist,
• 26:08
  talking about DMT, as what about you, Stephen?
• 26:11
  Mmm. He Mt yes.
• 26:16
  Okay. I guess it has a know what they
• 26:19
  mean by that. I have.
• 26:21
  Let's see. Right here.
• 26:26
  Well, I'll explain to the audience of this.
• 26:29
  There's a chemical that releases in the brain just as someone is
• 26:33
  about to die. Just as they're about the past,
• 26:36
  what it does is it causes a natural Utopia type of feeling
• 26:41
  or Euphoria as what it does. I would like some atheists to
• 26:45
  come in here and explain why the body would evolved this ability
• 26:50
  to create Bliss and unnaturally merged.
• 26:54
  Awful way to die. Where did the body come up with
• 26:57
  this kind of chemistry or chemical to do this?
• 27:00
  We're talking about death It seems like if a god designed it,
• 27:05
  he would design it for his children to be able to pass away
• 27:08
  peacefully. But how can it be explained
• 27:10
  through Evolution? Hmm.
• 27:13
  That is some research on that. That's a good point.
• 27:16
  I've heard of that, you know the hormone that's released at death
• 27:20
  or they just get peaceful. You know, many nurses testify to
• 27:23
  that as they watch someone dying.
• 27:24
  It's like wow, what happened here so EMT?
• 27:27
  They're calling it, sorry, I don't know.
• 27:30
  DMT, yeah, it's amazing. It's one of the explanations.
• 27:34
  They try to give our and why people have out of body
• 27:37
  experiences or why they see things in the room, while
• 27:41
  they're actually what the considered officially dead and
• 27:44
  stuff like that. If they fortunately get brought
• 27:46
  back from it. So I would like atheist, explain
• 27:50
  how Evolution made a chemical that causes us to die mercifully
• 27:55
  and peacefully. Yeah, I like their answer to
• 27:59
  that myself. Yeah.
• 28:00
  And that's just one of the many questions that atheist.
• 28:03
  Can't answer in regards to Evolution.
• 28:05
  There's just too much for to evolve there.
• 28:11
  Kind of wish there were some atheists in the chat here, so
• 28:13
  they can give us an answer. But, you know, it's no fun
• 28:17
  without without an opposing voice.
• 28:22
  Well unfortunately Kenta such a reputation for Terron atheist up
• 28:26
  in debates and discussions and standing for truth, they're
• 28:29
  nervous. You know, they get, they get
• 28:31
  frightened, it is what it is but they can come in and we will
• 28:35
  have a friendly conversation and try to figure out why, folks
• 28:39
  believe they come from primates and rocks and all that stuff.
• 28:44
  Can spell 10. Go ahead can.
• 28:47
  Well, one thing I do, I've done for many years, it really
• 28:50
  frustrates them is, I Define the Devolution.
• 28:52
  What do you mean by Evolution? I have up on screen, the six
• 28:55
  different levels are stages that would have to take place.
• 28:58
  You would have to have first of all Cosmic Evolution where did
• 29:01
  time space and matter come from, they don't have an answer for
• 29:05
  that. Bible answers that in 10 words
• 29:07
  in the beginning, their time God, created the Heaven, their
• 29:10
  space and the Earth there's matter.
• 29:12
  So that where did where did space come from?
• 29:15
  Where did time come from and matter?
• 29:17
  They call this a the Big Bang. Well that does that's not an
• 29:19
  answer giving it a name. Defied it show.
• 29:21
  Show me what was before the Big Bang.
• 29:23
  What was there? Then?
• 29:24
  You have to have the chemicals evolve.
• 29:26
  Everything had to come from hydrogen.
• 29:27
  If you can make gold out of hydrogen, I'd like to see that,
• 29:30
  okay? Then you'd have to have stars
• 29:31
  evolve and plan, a sieve all. We've never seen that, we see
• 29:34
  the opposite, we see stars blowing up called a nova or
• 29:37
  supernova. That's not forming, that's
• 29:39
  blowing up. Then we see organic evolution
• 29:41
  life. Getting started from nonliving
• 29:43
  material Randall's. You go get me a drink, you did,
• 29:46
  okay? Thank you, anything up.
• 29:49
  Nobody's ever seen that then organic evolution.
• 29:51
  Is a giant one. How did life get started from
• 29:54
  nonliving chemicals? Just give me an answer.
• 29:57
  They want me to pay to have all this talk to the kids in school,
• 30:00
  okay. If you can prove it scientific
• 30:02
  then, yes, I've been otherwise, no stop teaching this baloney.
• 30:07
  Then macro-evolution is where an animal changes to a different
• 30:10
  kind of animal. Nobody's ever, seen the dog
• 30:12
  producing on dog. Never, it's all imagination,
• 30:16
  sorry, it's religion is what it is, and not science.
• 30:19
  So if any atheist got any better ideas, I'd like to hear it so
• 30:21
  far in my 300 some debates. They've all said, we don't know.
• 30:25
  Yeah, I agree. Three and until you do, don't
• 30:28
  call it science. It's a religious belief.
• 30:32
  I've noticed that a lot of atheists especially popular ones
• 30:35
  like Matt Dillahunty Aaron raw, and sci-fi Dan, I believe is his
• 30:40
  name. They're completely trying to
• 30:42
  redefine the big bang and what actually happened.
• 30:45
  And all those changes that happen process.
• 30:48
  I'm going to play a clip to show an example of this.
• 30:51
  Here we go about 13.7 billion years ago this.
• 30:56
  Any Singularity violently exploded, and it is from this
• 31:01
  explosion. This bang that all matter.
• 31:05
  Energy, space, and time were created another explosion.
• 31:10
  No, bang, just expansion. This tiny Singularity violently
• 31:14
  exploded, no explosion, no bang. Just expansion before the Big
• 31:21
  Bang. There was nothing, literally
• 31:25
  nothing. And then something happened
• 31:28
  triggering the most colossal explosion in history.
• 31:34
  We don't necessarily think it was nothing before that.
• 31:37
  You are telling us that matter. Arose spontaneously out of
• 31:44
  nothing. Literally nothing, nothing
• 31:48
  literally nothing, nothing literally nothing.
• 31:54
  Amazing. These people are these.
• 31:58
  People are going to walk around and they walk around and drive
• 32:02
  cars. That's what concerns me.
• 32:08
  Yep. All right.
• 32:11
  Go ahead brother. Yeah, definitely sounds like
• 32:14
  they're describing God. It's kind of funny.
• 32:19
  Yeah. Brett-brett to your point real
• 32:21
  quick, though that you said that everyone's too scared to to
• 32:26
  debate Kent. All you need to do is watch his
• 32:29
  debate with Professor Dave. And that's enough to scare.
• 32:32
  If any atheist has seen that, they noticed a away that is the
• 32:35
  funniest like debate I've ever seen.
• 32:37
  And I go back to it at least once a year, it is just, it's
• 32:41
  amazing, it's great. Has are all accepted your
• 32:45
  re-challenge. No aronra calls are and Quincy.
• 32:51
  Rob middle name, Quincy from now on.
• 32:54
  I made that up, Quincy is the fruit that's really hard and you
• 32:59
  got to beat on it for a long time.
• 33:00
  To get it to soften up, got a hard head.
• 33:03
  He only likes to debate where he can interrupt all the time and
• 33:07
  standing for truth Channel and maybe Brett you could do the
• 33:09
  host of on your Channel. I want someplace I'll debate him
• 33:12
  anywhere, where we Equal time, no interrupting and we do one
• 33:15
  Topic at a time. He throws out ten topics and
• 33:19
  then you can't answer them all in the time allotted so he's
• 33:21
  obviously I want so one Topic at a time equal time, no
• 33:25
  interrupting a no profanity, real simple, open challenge, mr.
• 33:30
  Nelson calls himself, our and Rah, the Sun God, I'll take him
• 33:34
  on any time for someone who's so confident as he is, it's amazing
• 33:40
  that he's still too scared to come back and take another beat
• 33:43
  down from you. Come on, bring it on.
• 33:46
  I'm ready. Do you have any ideas about how
• 33:49
  long we were possibly in the garden before we were tossed
• 33:53
  out? The only clue we would have.
• 33:56
  The Bible says, Adam was 130 when Seth was born.
• 34:02
  If you look at my timeline chart on doctored.
• 34:04
  I know.com Adam was 130 when Seth was born, that's from
• 34:09
  Genesis chapter 5 and then we know before that.
• 34:13
  Cain and Abel were born but we don't have any dates.
• 34:15
  We know that Cain and Abel were old enough to get in a fight and
• 34:18
  Cain killed Abel. Let's assume they're in their
• 34:19
  20s. So Adam, and Eve and Adam and
• 34:22
  Eve were kicked out of the garden before they had any
• 34:24
  children. Probably not before they tried,
• 34:26
  but before they had any children and so proud, they might have
• 34:29
  been in the garden, a hundred years before before they sent,
• 34:33
  we know, Lucifer was created. It says, so in Isaiah 14 and
• 34:37
  Ezekiel 28. So Lucifer was a created being
• 34:40
  he's not eternal. God, created the Angels probably
• 34:44
  on day one or day two. The Bible isn't clear from what
• 34:46
  I can see, but they rejoiced when the foundations of the
• 34:50
  earth were laid that was on day three.
• 34:52
  So Lucifer was created. Probably on day one or two.
• 34:55
  He fell from heaven, some time, he saw what God had made said.
• 34:59
  I want that, I'll take it. I want to be like God and so
• 35:03
  probably 100 years after the creation.
• 35:06
  I think Lucifer got tired of their fellowship with God and
• 35:09
  said, I want them to worship me. And that's when he led his big
• 35:12
  rebellion and that just, it would be guesswork, but I'd say
• 35:16
  the first hundred years. Okay?
• 35:18
  All right. Thank you, good answer.
• 35:20
  And do you have an explanation for who it would have been Kane?
• 35:24
  Would have taken as a wife? Well, the Bible says, Adam lived
• 35:28
  a hundred years, hundred, thirty years and begat Seth well for
• 35:31
  Kane would have married one of his sisters They had lots of
• 35:36
  kids, how many kids could you have in 800 years when you live
• 35:39
  in a garden? Nothing, plenty to eat, run
• 35:41
  around naked all day. I bet you'd have a baby, every
• 35:43
  nine months in 20 minutes, All right, thank you for that solid
• 35:48
  answer. Okay.
• 35:51
  Do you do you and Steven believe that Adam and Eve were Immortal
• 35:56
  before they disobeyed God. I think they were, what was the
• 36:01
  word you used? Be more basically, Immortal age.
• 36:07
  Right, apparently, they would not have aged.
• 36:09
  God designed them to live forever.
• 36:11
  God did not design the world to have death.
• 36:14
  The Bible says, man brought death into the world.
• 36:16
  Romans 5, and First Corinthians laughing.
• 36:19
  Anyway, it was man, that brought death into the world.
• 36:22
  God designed a perfect world and man wrecked it You give somebody
• 36:26
  a nice car and they drive they reckon that's their fault.
• 36:29
  Not yours. So no death Biscayne because of
• 36:32
  Adam and Eve. Not because of God.
• 36:35
  Do they would have lived forever.
• 36:38
  Yeah, and I agree with that. Also I think that they did have
• 36:41
  regular bodies like we have today but I would definitely
• 36:44
  believe that the plan was for them to live forever.
• 36:48
  I don't think they aged either. Well, I guess, huh?
• 36:52
  Something else about Adam and Eve.
• 36:55
  Do you believe that the age for Adam and Eve began?
• 36:58
  The moment they ate from the tree?
• 36:59
  Basically, this is when death comes in the world where some
• 37:03
  kind of physical change with their existence.
• 37:06
  Obviously from me, Mortality. Do you believe that they might
• 37:10
  have existed for a long long period of time?
• 37:13
  No, Dennis applying to give you the feel the fall happened?
• 37:17
  Almost immediately in the story? Well, no they started aging
• 37:22
  right away or they started counting years.
• 37:24
  They've got started counting days before there was any life
• 37:27
  on Earth. You know, day one day, two day,
• 37:28
  three. So one revolution of the earth
• 37:30
  is a day one trip around the Sun as a year.
• 37:33
  I think they would have a way of measuring time they had.
• 37:37
  To have, we have to live in a phenomena called time space
• 37:41
  matter. Continuum each of those is a
• 37:43
  trinity, you know, space has three dimensions, length, width
• 37:46
  height time has three dimensions past present.
• 37:48
  Future matter has three dimension solid liquid gas, so I
• 37:52
  don't think it'd be a problem for them to just continue
• 37:55
  counting years. How many trips have you made
• 37:56
  around the Sun now honey, oh 8252, you know there, but they
• 38:01
  would not didn't, it doesn't mean it's affecting their body.
• 38:05
  Well, I got an interesting question for you and Stephen, as
• 38:08
  well aren't it? If Adam and Eve is Immortal,
• 38:11
  wouldn't I know a lot of Christian communities?
• 38:14
  They see it as the tree brought death into the world, and there
• 38:18
  was a curse, put on Adam and Eve, but wasn't there a kind of
• 38:21
  a blessing as well? If you think about it, because
• 38:25
  if they're Immortal, they would not have been able to have
• 38:27
  children, had they not been able to age.
• 38:30
  Does that make sense? That's for Steven.
• 38:37
  Whoever wants to answer. Oh no.
• 38:41
  I think having children would have happened.
• 38:43
  The question would be what if they had children and the
• 38:45
  parents and the children didn't? We will never know, but having
• 38:50
  children's normal part of life. Wonderful.
• 38:53
  I mean, all the animals and plants seem to enjoy it, I'd
• 38:56
  like to fast forward just a little bit to Noah.
• 39:00
  We know, scripture says that like a drunkard cannot enter the
• 39:03
  kingdom of heaven, but also, there seems to be several
• 39:06
  scriptures that I point you to the fact that Noah may have been
• 39:09
  an alcoholic. I was just wondering, do you
• 39:11
  think that? That was the case and if so, do
• 39:14
  you think that Noah did make it to heaven?
• 39:17
  Well, I don't think it was an alcoholic.
• 39:19
  I think he was. I think Before the Flood came,
• 39:22
  we got a slide up here, 353, from the creation up until the
• 39:28
  flood but 1656 years. According to the Bible, I don't
• 39:33
  think fermentation was possible. The canopy above that protected.
• 39:38
  Them would have not allowed fermentation so you can drink
• 39:43
  grape juice and going back a year later and drink some more
• 39:45
  and it's fine. So that would just be my theory.
• 39:47
  There's no I don't think. No, I think Noah awoke from his
• 39:50
  wine. I think it was an accident when
• 39:52
  he got drunk. He did not certainly intend to
• 39:55
  do just my thought. See you think it was more of a
• 39:58
  one off because I know it also does touch on and I believe it
• 40:01
  says that he even had a Vineyard, you know which would
• 40:04
  imply to me. He was at least, you know, a
• 40:06
  social drinker. Well, he met Bobby had a
• 40:09
  Vineyard Before the Flood to it. He like grape juice and grapes.
• 40:12
  I like grapes and grape juice. So that doesn't mean he's making
• 40:15
  alcohol out of it. A lot of people have Vineyards
• 40:17
  and don't make any alcohol out of it.
• 40:19
  That my theory would be Noah was a righteous man.
• 40:21
  He feared God. God, chose him to save out of
• 40:24
  everybody. God saw Noah was a righteous
• 40:26
  man, so I don't think it was intentional.
• 40:28
  I think was that whole new thing.
• 40:29
  Wow, drunk. What is this thought?
• 40:32
  Maybe thought the grape juice tasted funny and the kept
• 40:35
  drinking it probably shouldn't have.
• 40:36
  But how would you know All right.
• 40:38
  Yeah, I'll take that answer. Any more questions from you
• 40:42
  gentlemen, I have point to throw out in relation to the age of
• 40:47
  the Earth. I don't know if you've ever
• 40:49
  address this camp but I had this thought that, you know, there's
• 40:51
  so much debate over the age of the Earth.
• 40:53
  I feel like that's such a huge dividing point and something
• 40:55
  that keeps people from accepting the view of creation, because
• 40:59
  they're so convinced of the age of the Earth, but maybe God
• 41:04
  created the world with the appearance of billions of years.
• 41:08
  And it may be just made it that way, you know, in the same way
• 41:12
  that he made Adam and you know, he didn't make him a baby made
• 41:14
  him a man, you know, you would think Adams you know, several
• 41:17
  decades old at least. So I'm just interested in your
• 41:21
  input on that. Well, yeah, it had to make full
• 41:24
  grown man, full-grown woman. You know, it didn't make two
• 41:26
  babies who would take care of him in the garden.
• 41:28
  All the plants were full. Grown fruit hanging on the tree
• 41:30
  had to because Adam has to eat that day.
• 41:32
  So yeah, but the age of the Earth, if you look at the dates
• 41:35
  in the Bible, it clearly adds up to about 6,000 for the The age
• 41:38
  of the Earth not billions of years.
• 41:40
  That's for sure. That's from adding up the
• 41:42
  numbers that were given to us in Genesis 5 in Genesis 11, if you
• 41:45
  look at the scientific evidence, I've got a whole seminar called
• 41:47
  the age of the Earth. My seminar part 1 different
• 41:50
  scientific ways to prove this Earth is not billions of years
• 41:53
  old. It cannot be if I told you this
• 41:56
  pencil was 18,000 years old. I think you could very easily
• 42:00
  prove I'm wrong. Okay, it has any racer which is
• 42:03
  still flexible. I think over time that would
• 42:05
  probably get hard. We can do a science test and see
• 42:07
  how What it take for this substance to harden up, maybe
• 42:12
  something less than 50 years. It's made by a company that
• 42:16
  probably labeled on here. And you could probably say all
• 42:18
  that company wasn't around, there would be ways to
• 42:20
  scientifically prove, my 18,000 year claim is wrong, just over a
• 42:24
  pencil. So they're claiming the Earth is
• 42:27
  billions of years old. I say guys, you got some real
• 42:29
  problems here, I'll just show you one or two of them, pick one
• 42:31
  randomly. The Earth is spinning, my
• 42:34
  hyperlinks working here, then we'd all agree.
• 42:37
  The Earth is turning around. Round up too many folk disagree
• 42:39
  with that, the flat earthers, maybe, but the Earth is
• 42:42
  spinning, and the Earth is slowing down in.
• 42:44
  Its spin. This has been demonstrated, we
• 42:46
  see the Earth is slowing down. That's why they have to have a
• 42:48
  leap second every year and a half to two to accommodate for
• 42:53
  are slowing, are slowing spin of Earth.
• 42:56
  So how long could it? Be slowing down.
• 42:58
  If you go back in time it was spinning faster.
• 43:01
  That would create a problem. So you cannot say it's billions
• 43:04
  of years old and has been slowing down for billions of
• 43:06
  years and life has been here. Hundreds of millions here, that
• 43:09
  doesn't work scientifically. So I cover man, I got to get my
• 43:13
  hyperlinks working in here. I covered the scientific
• 43:17
  evidence of the earth, not being billions of years old see if you
• 43:20
  take away time from The Atheist, their whole Theory.
• 43:22
  Collapses in a heap they count on billions of years.
• 43:27
  You see how did that happen? Oh you sprinkle more time on it?
• 43:29
  It'll happen. That's just it's insane.
• 43:33
  The sun is burning up step outside and look at it.
• 43:36
  The sun is burning, it's losing five.
• 43:38
  Million tons. Every second that's how much gas
• 43:40
  it burns up, it's losing five feet an hour in diameter.
• 43:45
  Okay, we'll run the clock backwards.
• 43:47
  You add weight to the sun, you add size to the sun.
• 43:50
  It's not going to be possible to have life on Earth here, we're
• 43:54
  too close. So there's all kinds of
• 43:56
  scientific indicators that it just simply cannot be billions
• 44:00
  of years old. They need billions of years to
• 44:02
  hide their Theory and but it is not available, you can't have
• 44:04
  it. And if you were real quick I've
• 44:09
  never seen that of billions of years prop.
• 44:10
  That's hilarious. That's a new one for me but um
• 44:14
  yeah from creation to now. I think you know I definitely
• 44:18
  accept it's under 10,000 years old but from the moment God
• 44:21
  created it. I'm saying maybe he maybe he
• 44:24
  made it with the appearance of looking that old that way when
• 44:27
  people are doing their scientific tests on it.
• 44:29
  That's why they get some of these numbers, you know, that
• 44:32
  like the rocks have been here for however, long or something.
• 44:34
  You know. Well you know, I know there's no
• 44:36
  There's a lack of consistency with some of the way they
• 44:39
  radiometric day, but maybe they're getting some of the
• 44:41
  information they are because God created it with the appearance
• 44:44
  of being older than it. Actually is just a thought I had
• 44:48
  Well, people make brand new furniture and make it look
• 44:51
  antique. Purposely it's brand-new right.
• 44:55
  That doesn't mean it's that old. Yeah.
• 44:57
  And we're on the same page with that.
• 45:00
  Can't do you find it interesting that according to scientist?
• 45:04
  Carl Sagan one of his big things that he liked to say was that we
• 45:09
  are the children of Stardust. So I looked into why it is we
• 45:13
  even have dust on the earth. And apparently, it's because
• 45:16
  stars go through their process and then all this dust gets on
• 45:20
  the earth. So in a way, when we're looking
• 45:23
  at Genesis, we are kind of children to Stardust God used
• 45:27
  the Dust In order to create us. Do you or do you have something
• 45:31
  different on that view? Well, I wouldn't say.
• 45:34
  Earth is made from Stardust, I mean Earth.
• 45:36
  The Earth was made before the Stars.
• 45:38
  Actually, if you read the Genesis story God made the
• 45:41
  Earth. And then on day three, he made
• 45:43
  the Stars. I think purposely so we would
• 45:46
  know not to worship the stars and the Sun and the heaven, many
• 45:49
  cultures around the world worship the Sun or something.
• 45:51
  You know, that that's crazy. The Earth was made first from
• 45:57
  there. He did make out of the dust and
• 46:00
  But I don't necessarily made it be Stardust.
• 46:03
  Okay, right, right. I believe this scientist have
• 46:07
  the the event in the process mixed up on that.
• 46:11
  It seems to me whenever I looked at the creation account that
• 46:14
  it's perfect and it's steps and the symbiotic relationship of
• 46:18
  the plants and the food that were provided, all of it, the
• 46:22
  way it was set up as perfect. And also Pastor, if you could
• 46:26
  only pick one argument out of the many to Defend a young Earth
• 46:31
  creation. Say under 10,000 years, you know
• 46:35
  which point of evidence do you think you would point to to
• 46:38
  prove that I got one up on screen here?
• 46:41
  I think NASA has agreed that the Moon is moving away from the
• 46:45
  earth. We have a moon going around us,
• 46:48
  and it's getting further away leaving about.
• 46:51
  Let's see, four centimeters a year.
• 46:54
  The Moon is drifting at the Circle.
• 46:55
  That the moon actually, oval is enlarging.
• 46:57
  Okay. Well, the moon ever leave
• 46:59
  Earth's Yep, physic dot-org. Why is the moon leaving us the
• 47:03
  moon's? Orbit three point eight
• 47:04
  centimeters per year is increasing.
• 47:07
  So everybody that teaches physics and I taught physical
• 47:10
  science, 15 years. There's a law called the inverse
• 47:13
  Square law. If you would bring two objects
• 47:16
  that have an attraction for each other like magnets or gravity in
• 47:20
  the case of Earth and Moon its gravity if you bring it into
• 47:23
  one, half the distance, you take that fraction 1/2, flip it over
• 47:26
  and square it. So it's 4 times the pull If you
• 47:30
  bring it into 1/3 the distance, it's 9 times the pull.
• 47:34
  So if the moon were closer because of the inverse Square
• 47:37
  law, if you brought the moon in a thousand years ago, 125 feet
• 47:41
  closer, no big deal. Million years ago, 28 miles
• 47:44
  closer and want 10 million. Now it's getting closer. 100
• 47:48
  million through almost 3,000 miles closer.
• 47:51
  It starts to become a very serious problem.
• 47:54
  So I think they've studied this and said, if just the just with
• 47:57
  the earth-moon system, the Moon is leaving us.
• 48:00
  If you run the math backwards they would say about the Earth
• 48:04
  or the moon orbit would have collapsed.
• 48:07
  You can't get two magnets to close before they snap together
• 48:11
  because of this inverse Square law and see the evolution of the
• 48:14
  lunar semi-major axis represents the resents, the well-known
• 48:17
  timescale problem. The lunar orbit, collapses, a
• 48:20
  little over 1 billion years ago. So why are we selling the kids?
• 48:25
  The Earth is 4.6 billion years old?
• 48:27
  Just the moon says no. You cannot have 4.6 billion
• 48:31
  years but they wish to believe that the evolution of the lunar
• 48:36
  semi-major axis, presents a well-known time scale problem it
• 48:40
  collapses a billion years ago. Okay, I'll give them a billion
• 48:44
  years. Their whole theory is dumb at
• 48:46
  all levels, but when they run all the math on this, they say
• 48:49
  guys, the Earth cannot be more than 1 billion years old.
• 48:53
  Just based on the moon. So that's a simple one.
• 48:58
  This is an excellent point. Can't excellent point.
• 49:01
  I am, I have a question. When we look at the laws of the
• 49:06
  universal laws of nature, the second law of Thermodynamics
• 49:10
  teaches at entropy, entropy breaks down.
• 49:13
  Everything, it tries to explain why we age and lose information,
• 49:18
  not gain it, such as cosmological and genetic entropy
• 49:22
  doesn't that completely go against the very face of
• 49:25
  evolution. We're losing information.
• 49:28
  Are not gaining it and this is science right here.
• 49:32
  Yeah, everything is falling apart, nothing's.
• 49:34
  Getting better with time. I'll be 70 day after tomorrow
• 49:37
  and I can see different things. You're not working around like
• 49:40
  they used to do, you know, I've got aches and pains here and
• 49:42
  there. So, the, the world is aging
• 49:46
  everything is aging falling apart, this Earth is slowing
• 49:49
  down and it's spin. Ya, entropy Phi is exactly the
• 49:52
  opposite of evolution. But evolution, say oh no, things
• 49:56
  are getting better. Show me where this is happening.
• 49:59
  It isn't it just isn't true. It's not science that's for
• 50:02
  sure. The only argument I've even
• 50:06
  heard against it. Well, we live that's for people
• 50:09
  who are things that live in a closed environment.
• 50:12
  What does that even mean? We see Things Fall Apart.
• 50:15
  Every single day, we see our bodies.
• 50:18
  They claim that the universe is expanding.
• 50:21
  So we're being pulled apart, there's no extra information,
• 50:24
  being added. So, how does that work for
• 50:27
  evolution? I would love for some
• 50:29
  non-believers come in here and explain that to us.
• 50:32
  Yep, small changes. If there's a thousand changes,
• 50:36
  one of them they say will be positive.
• 50:38
  You might have 999 - but one's positive.
• 50:41
  And those are going to accumulate.
• 50:42
  This is pure, it's dreaming. It's a nightmare actually not a
• 50:46
  dream. Now dr.
• 50:48
  Hovind as a fellow creationists myself, I believe in creation.
• 50:53
  I've heard to school of thoughts, one is that the Earth
• 50:57
  is just under 7000 years old and I it feels like the other main
• 51:01
  school of thought is that. It's just about 10,000 years
• 51:03
  old. Do you lie?
• 51:04
  In one way or the other and do you even think that that little
• 51:07
  small difference matters? Well, not neither would help
• 51:12
  evolutionist, okay? They would argue with both of
• 51:14
  them, the Bible date set up to 6,000 and I happen to believe
• 51:18
  God is probably working on a 7,000 year calendar where he's
• 51:22
  going to have six thousand years of human history and a thousand
• 51:24
  years of the Millennium. I think the six days of creation
• 51:28
  are symbolic, a representative of a bigger picture.
• 51:32
  See I had it up here a second ago with God working on a 7,000
• 51:36
  year calendar. Like he worked on a seven-day
• 51:38
  week but so I would It's pretty strongly.
• 51:40
  The Bible dates are no reason to reject them.
• 51:43
  The Bible dates, add up to 6000 coming up in 2028 is the best
• 51:49
  estimate. We think Jesus was probably
• 51:51
  crucified in the year. Twenty Eight.
• 51:53
  We know our calendar is off the calendar using now is screwed
• 51:56
  up. So there I said, when I wrote my
• 52:01
  book on, when's the Lord coming back in times?
• 52:03
  You know, I said, I don't know what, I'm not setting a date,
• 52:05
  but if I had to set a date, are it is 192 192.
• 52:09
  To enter I would say to you. Do you do believe, we're about
• 52:15
  6900 plus years old right now about 5995.
• 52:22
  You know, it's something. It's close to 6,000.
• 52:27
  Alright, thank you very much. Does our guests have any
• 52:30
  questions? Yeah, I guess on that note, I've
• 52:37
  been thinking about a lot about the Lord's second coming and you
• 52:42
  know, just the state of the world and I'm in medical school
• 52:45
  right now. I just got accepted last summer
• 52:47
  and we had a guest speaker Cockiness about, you know, she
• 52:51
  gets hormone blockers to eight-year-olds and, you know,
• 52:54
  we're supposed to be I guess happy about this and thinking,
• 52:58
  and calling it Healthcare and all this sort of stuff and you
• 53:01
  know, I'm just Absolutely disgusted by it.
• 53:03
  And just to see like that is a norm in today's society, really
• 53:07
  makes me think that, you know, the Lord's.
• 53:10
  Not going to get it. Let it get too much force.
• 53:12
  And if you look around to, like, not only with the social
• 53:15
  decision generously that's going on, but also, like people trying
• 53:18
  to live forever. You know, AI is getting really
• 53:21
  big right now, so I think, I think there's a certain I
• 53:24
  definitely don't think God would let us cross the line of like
• 53:27
  living forever, but so, I think he's going to come back soon.
• 53:31
  And what you just said What about, you know, 6000 plus
• 53:35
  another thousand being, you know, like, paralleling the six
• 53:39
  days of creation. I think it's coming.
• 53:42
  So when we chose to watch what's happening in Israel, you can see
• 53:48
  all the prophecies from Daniel and Revelation doing.
• 53:50
  Wow, there are happening in front of our eyes.
• 53:54
  That red heifers they've got over there, they're ready to
• 53:56
  rebuild the Temple. I think a treaty was made in
• 53:58
  2021, a secret treaty between the Muslims and the Jews Muslims
• 54:03
  control. The mosque, the Dome over there,
• 54:05
  Dome of the Rock. So I will see, I don't know,
• 54:08
  God, let God handle that. I'm just going to keep winning
• 54:09
  Souls till I run out of time and that's the approach I'm taking
• 54:13
  to like, you know, I'm not going to worry about.
• 54:14
  Too much God, you know, his timing you know and that's all
• 54:17
  there is to it. I just had a wild thought with
• 54:21
  what you said about. Artificial intelligence, That's
• 54:24
  what a degree from Harvard is they think they've been an
• 54:29
  educator, all these degrees, they're getting.
• 54:32
  They have artificial intelligence.
• 54:33
  I'm going to use that for a slide.
• 54:38
  I'm glad I feel honored to have been the spark for a New Kent
• 54:41
  hovind joke. So, we've got robbed UK in the
• 54:48
  room Big Time supporter and fan of kin Tobin's work, is there
• 54:52
  any questions you have for kids? Kent or anything you'd like to
• 54:55
  say yeah it took it about the Endtime stuff that's kind of how
• 55:01
  I got into becoming a Christian actually so through although I
• 55:07
  didn't see it as the end time stuff you know everyone calls it
• 55:09
  the New World Order and you know the great conception now and
• 55:12
  always great resetting all that kind of stuff.
• 55:15
  But this is the first time ever in history.
• 55:17
  We've had Global bodies, really interfering intimation state,
• 55:24
  You know, you got the world economic Forum, the UN and all
• 55:27
  that kind of stuff. And then now, it seems to be
• 55:29
  having cultural authority over all of the rules and laws in the
• 55:34
  nation state. You know, behind the scenes,
• 55:37
  they're pushing the climate, change extremism, Lord, through
• 55:41
  our Parliament here and by now in certain other countries as
• 55:45
  well. So never in history of we had
• 55:47
  this, you know, like we it's always been nation states
• 55:51
  against nation state but now Now, you got Global
• 55:54
  organizations who are completing.
• 55:59
  Hey, have Ram. I don't know after this is
• 56:02
  Robert. I love to Rob your microphones
• 56:07
  kind of muffled. Are you guys here in the same
• 56:09
  thing as me? It does sound that way on my
• 56:12
  side. Okay.
• 56:13
  Rob could go into your settings. And uncheck some of the things
• 56:18
  like cancellation and the condenser that way doesn't do
• 56:22
  that. Make sure you speak directly
• 56:24
  into the mic. Whenever you're talking.
• 56:26
  We definitely want to hear you. Yeah.
• 56:29
  Can you hear me now? Yeah, it's coming to Stronger.
• 56:33
  Okay, yeah. So, did you catch any of that
• 56:35
  about the global organizations here, right?
• 56:39
  Bodies like the UN and stuff like that.
• 56:41
  Ever since God scattered the people out after the Tower of
• 56:44
  Babel, which would have been maybe a hundred years after
• 56:47
  Noah's flood, God had told him spread out, they didn't want to
• 56:50
  do it, will God and convinced him a different languages.
• 56:52
  So this whole bus Global or not only Global organization, Global
• 56:57
  control they want to Control everything you can buy and sell.
• 57:01
  That'll be done with a microchip.
• 57:02
  I think. I think it's coming like a
• 57:04
  freight train. I've been looking at a lot of
• 57:09
  stuff on Twitter from Elon Musk and he's been talking about a
• 57:12
  microchip, being placed into the the head of people as well as
• 57:18
  also they believe would be efficient if it was in the hand
• 57:21
  and they claim that the reason why they're doing this is they
• 57:24
  want to make it easier for people to be able to buy and
• 57:27
  sell things at the store. But it's all their information
• 57:30
  is put on that. It's a lot of things, the
• 57:32
  government could do to us could make one.
• 57:34
  Yeah. I'd like to ask Ken, what's your
• 57:39
  view on the One World religion that they talk about?
• 57:43
  Do you see is like a New Age religion that unites all
• 57:47
  religions? Or would you see more of a
• 57:49
  luciferian or a theistic religion, that you know, where
• 57:53
  us Christians are persecuted in the Great Tribulation?
• 57:58
  Satan wants everybody to worship him.
• 58:01
  He told Eve if you eat off that tree, you can become like God,
• 58:05
  actually he's the one who wants to be like God.
• 58:07
  It says, so, in Isaiah 14, or is he got 28 thou Hast said in
• 58:11
  thine heart, I will be like the most high and so he wants to be
• 58:15
  God, God knows everything. He wants to know everything and
• 58:18
  this idea of computer control of where you become part of the big
• 58:22
  computer is racing at us like a freight train.
• 58:26
  I don't know what I'll technology they've got, but it
• 58:29
  is a little scary when you can walk into a store and light
• 58:32
  flashes and it tells you what the item is, how much it weighs,
• 58:35
  how much it cost puts it on, your, you know, deducted from
• 58:37
  your credit card. It's we're just, like Revelation
• 58:41
  said, you won't be able to buy or sell without a mark.
• 58:44
  And it's interesting. The King James Bible says, the
• 58:46
  Mark goes in. I end in the right hand or in
• 58:50
  the forehead. Lot of new Bible versions say it
• 58:52
  goes on the hand or on the forehead.
• 58:54
  No, no it goes in. It'll be under the skin probably
• 58:58
  right in this muscle between your thumb and finger, here is
• 59:00
  the best place they say. Because there's at least amount
• 59:02
  of movement there for a chip to move around.
• 59:05
  I don't know. Randolph is how small, can they
• 59:07
  make those chips that could do that Pinhead?
• 59:10
  Yeah, maybe all this stuff with covid.
• 59:12
  Whether put along Q-Tip up, your nose is practice to get ready to
• 59:15
  put a chip up there. Something I don't know.
• 59:17
  We'll see. We are we one of the reasons
• 59:20
  I've heard Rob as well as Kent, why they want to put something
• 59:23
  in the forehead. And this is he Elon Musk.
• 59:26
  I'm not even a given Bible passes.
• 59:29
  I'm telling you, this is Elon Musk himself.
• 59:31
  Then the reason why they do that is because someone's hand might
• 59:34
  be removed or someone might be disabled.
• 59:36
  And also for machines, where you stick your eyes and then you're
• 59:41
  basically your eyes scanned in order to be able to access
• 59:44
  different places. So this is a control move for
• 59:47
  sure. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:49
  I'm just interested as well. How religion fits into that
• 59:53
  because obviously you've got They called Gaia worship, which
• 59:57
  is the mother earth worship, which basically is the climate
• 1:00:00
  change agenda. They're pushing through now.
• 1:00:05
  Yeah, I'm concerned about the strive toward One World
• 1:00:09
  Government, one world religion. It really be Satan and he'll put
• 1:00:13
  somebody else up front. Is his his front, man who
• 1:00:16
  worship this guy, but it'll be him in the background, pulling
• 1:00:18
  the strings. We got somebody out here so, you
• 1:00:22
  know, it's just conspiracy theory nonsense.
• 1:00:24
  Now obviously, it's an atheist. Well, if you think that Elon
• 1:00:29
  Musk one of the most wealthiest men in the world, who's done all
• 1:00:33
  the things you've done, is a conspiracy theorist, Fine.
• 1:00:36
  But he's actually seen the equipment or images are already
• 1:00:39
  shown of what this chip looks like.
• 1:00:41
  So I mean if you don't know how to research yourself I don't
• 1:00:44
  know what to tell you, but it's not a theory.
• 1:00:46
  It's actually a thing. Hell, I'd like to ask that guy
• 1:00:50
  if they ever came up to him and wanted to put a chip in him.
• 1:00:53
  Would he let him do it? Would he just go along with it?
• 1:00:56
  What do you say? Oh, that sounds great.
• 1:01:00
  What Elon Musk do it? Or what I do it, we all are.
• 1:01:02
  Most probably will know that the guy who said it was the guy who
• 1:01:05
  said it was a conspiracy theory. You know, people who are saying
• 1:01:08
  these conspiracy theories like do they, so do they think that
• 1:01:11
  it's actually a bad thing? Because I have a suspicion that
• 1:01:14
  once this comes along, they're all gonna jump on the bandwagon.
• 1:01:16
  Be excited about it and think it's great.
• 1:01:19
  Yeah, great. Yeah.
• 1:01:20
  It'll be the solution to world hunger.
• 1:01:22
  Yep, exactly. When I remember, when I was like
• 1:01:26
  this, and I was heavily into technology back then, actually,
• 1:01:29
  that would In one of my dreams really, you know, to be able to
• 1:01:34
  like linked up to, you know, because everybody wants to be
• 1:01:37
  social animals. And obviously, if you're have
• 1:01:40
  this chip in their knee up and social animals, you know, it
• 1:01:43
  sounds pretty cool to an atheist but obviously, they don't see
• 1:01:48
  today held as we do as being evil.
• 1:01:51
  Because we naturally see the world as being evil because of
• 1:01:54
  the way, it's all all changing. So I think, you know, me being
• 1:01:58
  with my former atheist at on I definitely would have accepted
• 1:02:01
  that chip without any problem without even thinking about
• 1:02:04
  anything else. It is to understand why people
• 1:02:09
  are so surprised at this. I mean, scientists whose videos
• 1:02:13
  up on YouTube, where they've actually installed remote
• 1:02:16
  control equipment and two rats, and they're actually causing the
• 1:02:21
  rats to go in the direction they want with that.
• 1:02:23
  Have you guys seen that before? It's absolutely morbid.
• 1:02:28
  That's Harry's. Never seen that.
• 1:02:32
  Just type it in remote control rats.
• 1:02:34
  I kid you not. It is one of the most disgusting
• 1:02:37
  things I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:02:38
  You should make a video on that brat.
• 1:02:40
  I probably should. Yeah, please do now Pastor
• 1:02:46
  Joven. It's not often that you get to
• 1:02:48
  just hang out in a room like this, with only your fans, your
• 1:02:51
  usually in the thick of battle with atheists and evolutionists.
• 1:02:55
  Is there anything you'd like to say to them?
• 1:02:56
  You know, a lot of them are just like myself.
• 1:02:59
  They followed you most of Their lives.
• 1:03:01
  Your name is a household name. Do you just want to thank them
• 1:03:04
  for their years of support and Well yeah, I do.
• 1:03:07
  Thank you for supporting us over the years.
• 1:03:09
  I've been doing this for a long time.
• 1:03:10
  Got saved in 1969. Got 1974.
• 1:03:14
  Graduated from Bible College, I took 21 our load every semester.
• 1:03:18
  I like get things done, work fast and I've been a Baptist
• 1:03:21
  preacher, 48 years and started this ministry in 1989 speaking
• 1:03:24
  on creation versus Evolution. I really look long and hard.
• 1:03:28
  If you were in, if your country was being attacked, there's a
• 1:03:30
  war going on, you're there, you're under attack.
• 1:03:33
  You would think you would look around and say, where can I be
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  the most useful? What do we need right now?
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  Oh the soldiers need water. I'll go start carrying water.
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  Do they need bullets? Okay, I'll go get bullets.
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  What's the greatest need that? You see the greatest need that I
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  see is for people to explain all this creation stuff where the
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  fifth graders can get it. What got me going in my Ministry
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  was I read all the books. I could find by Henry Morris and
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  Duane Gish and all these. They brilliant stuff and that
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  when they're all done talking you say, wow.
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  What did he say? Use all these big words?
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  You know, my gift is teaching getting it down where the fourth
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  graders, get it? Oh, I understood that.
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  So keep it simple. So that's my, my calling in this
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  war is to take this creation information and the the word of
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  God and explain it, where people can get it.
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  I want to make it simple. If I find a bigger, if I find
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  someplace else where the battles going on, more, I'll jump over
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  there. I'm glad God is using you in
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  that way. Can't because, like I said
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  before, I wouldn't be here without your seminars and it's
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  actually I must say it's a through Venom thing, X, I came
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  across your content. I watched her Venom thing
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  xvideo. Way back when, and that was my
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  links. Oh, thank God.
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  That you do what you do? Can well.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  I found myself on the mark of the beast.
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  I saw it like that rat Bret. Tell us more about the remote
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  control rat. Well, there it is right there.
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  They install this thing onto its back and then plug this into its
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  skull as well as into its spine into its core text.
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  And then they're able to actually Really control it with
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  like you would a little race car street.
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  It's horrible. It's terrible.
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  And this is what they know they call science.
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  There's no ethics to this whatsoever.
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  I actually have some insight into this because I am in
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  medical school like I said, and, you know, we study the brain and
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  all of the, you know, that part of your brain.
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  That's probably where the rats prefrontal cortex is and that's
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  where the initial nerve response.
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  Stu fire the signal to your nerves, to your limbs to make
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  movements. So it actually makes sense.
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  That, that would be the case, you know, it doesn't surprise me
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  at all that they're able to do that.
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  Maybe we're next. Yeah it's like I wouldn't be
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  surprised. That's what they want.
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  If there's any non believers out there, that would like to come
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  in and actually have a open discussion and all you got to do
• 1:05:59
  is just simply behave yourself. Try to have control and do not
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  act like a primate up here possible.
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  That's all you have to do and you can come in have a good
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  discussion. Yeah.
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  Also if you guys haven't been to Dinosaur Adventure Land yet, why
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  not? It's furry.
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  What more do you want? It's a blast to come on down.
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  We give tours. We're in Lenox Alabama straight
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  north of Pensacola 70 miles. Lennox is about that big.
• 1:06:26
  You been here. Stephen, you know, 30 people in
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  town, we got 35 here at our camp.
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  We got more than Old Town to Lennox here.
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  I was gonna say you guys make up.
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  Most of the town. We were talking a minute ago
• 1:06:36
  about the mark of the beast. I found my slides, I have over
• 1:06:39
  50,000 slides in PowerPoint but about the Barcode, here's what
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  the hovind theory, if you want to hear it on what's going to
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  happen. It's so interesting.
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  Back in Revelation, he said, the mark of the beast is going to be
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  six, six six. Well in 1973, they invented the
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  UPC, Universal product code, and they have a bunch of lines on
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  their bars and spaces. Okay?
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  The code a black line is a one, white line is a 0.
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  So, it's a, you know, if there's a fat black line, it's to ones
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  together to First, bigger would be 5.
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  Made of them together. Well, you notice the first four
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  lines in this drawing on the far left are not marked underneath
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  what they are. The zero out front goes with the
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  second pair of lines. The first two are too skinny
• 1:07:25
  lines, in the middle. There's two skinny lines that go
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  longer than the rest and they're not marked.
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  At the end is too skinny lines that are not marked.
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  Well, if you look at the number 6, right above the number 62,
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  skinny lines is the code for six.
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  Every bar code since they've started doing it back in 1973 as
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  666, right? In the bar coat, here's the code
• 1:07:48
  that they use zeros and ones to make these things 6 is in every
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  bar code, 666. So this will be something.
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  The Bible says, the Mark goes in the hand or in the forehead.
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  He started back in 95 injecting chips.
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  Randall, you can get chips, put in your cat or dog, to track
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  them, and find them, right? What's those caught tricking?
• 1:08:09
  What those tracking chips cost? About 30 bucks.
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  I don't want to put one of my dog.
• 1:08:15
  I want my dog to disappear. My wife got a pug.
• 1:08:17
  That's useless but I can't we have a guest in the panel.
• 1:08:26
  I want to make sure that you're okay with doing a job.
• 1:08:31
  It's a the user that has been kind of how shall I say
• 1:08:36
  conflicting. Sometimes are you interested in
• 1:08:39
  having an open discussion with atheist jr.
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  Oh sure. It is jr.
• 1:08:45
  I'll have a whole debate with him.
• 1:08:46
  I've only got about 30 more minutes.
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  So Brett. So hey Jay.
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  Good to hear from you. When you going to get Converted.
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  Go ahead. I don't know how are you doing,
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  Ken? How was your New Year of the
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  day's been great. God God love.
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  It looks cold here today. It's only like 50 degrees, you
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  know? I'm ready for more.
• 1:09:03
  Huh. So could I know you were talking
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  about the mark of the beast thing?
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  But I would like to talk about Evolution since that was the
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  title of the video. That's okay.
• 1:09:18
  Now you're okay, so I watched the video That you get with the
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  Catholic evolutionists water. I really enjoyed that one.
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  And he brought up a point that when you saying we've only
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  observe dogs produce dogs that the implication is that you
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  think Evolution means or teaches it, a dog is going to give birth
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  to something like a fox or like a jackal or a fish.
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  Is that what? No, what no, not at all.
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  What I point out is all we've ever observed in human history
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  is dogs produce dogs, a coyote wolf and dog are probably the
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  same kind of animal. So the the textbooks though show
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  a family tree where you have a protozoa or a single-celled
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  creature, producing a dog So you guys like to point out, we don't
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  see a dog producing a non dog. And they say, that's not what
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  evolution says. It does say the protozoa
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  produced a dog. Dallas.
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  No. Yes it does know it.
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  You're conflating two different things.
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  So I asked you in a couple different questions on debates
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  would are in when we debated. I asked you, what do you mean
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  when you you just, how do you define the word produce and you
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  said that that means to give birth.
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  And I ask you, what is a non dog and you gave an example of
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  something like a fox or a like a dingo.
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  So when you say we've only seen dogs produce dogs which are
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  saying is that Evolution teaches that a dog gave birth to a fox
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  or something, that was a non dog, something that was like a
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  different species and it doesn't teach that now I know that
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  you're going to talk about over millions of years, over many
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  generations or dogs, have a common ancestor, that's a
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  different thing. So you're pivoting to a totally
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  different topic but it's a strong man to say that Evolution
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  teaches that a dog gave birth to a fish.
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  Shhhh. I don't say that the amoeba know
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  the amoeba produced everything. On this family tree kids that we
• 1:11:32
  paid money to print this textbook for our kids to learn
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  from it shows humans and Ferns and sharks and everything.
• 1:11:39
  Going back to a single-celled creature somewhere along the
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  line. Somebody is producing something
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  that ain't their kind of protozoa turning to a biology
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  teacher is what the kids are being taught.
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  I don't, you can put a trillion steps in there.
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  Are four hundred quadrillion steps in there.
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  The point is, it doesn't happen what we observe is protozoa.
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  Make maybe protozoa all the time so you do this all the time.
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  AJ you say well you know dogs producing foxes.
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  This is not what evolution teaches.
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  Yes it is you do teach. Do you believe you came from a
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  single cell creature like a protozoan of some kind over
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  millions of years? Is that your ancestor?
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  Okay, you're pivoting. You're changing the topic.
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  I want to talk about dogs producing some dogs giving birth
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  to dogs so dogs and other any animals only going to give birth
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  to an animal. That's the same species.
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  So you just said that Evolution does teach that dogs.
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  Give birth to something that's not a dog.
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  No, but it doesn't that's a strong man and then you pivot to
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  the single-celled organism. Why can't we just stay on the
• 1:12:46
  topic of a dog. Real quick Junior.
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  You said that Kent is misrepresenting evolution but
• 1:12:54
  he's actually saying what it is. The scientists are claiming and
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  I can give an example here. If you guys don't mind you're
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  going to see. This is a reason why Christians
• 1:13:04
  are questioning Evolution has. Let me give you an example.
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  Fish human beings are selfish. Human beings of fish.
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  Why? Yes of course they are.
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  How long did that? Take a couple billions of years?
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  Millions and millions hair. Is that observable?
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  It's not Do you believe? We all came from sponges day if
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  you believe this textbook is right.
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  Yes. But my 200 million greats
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  grandfather was a fish. And by the way, the same fish
• 1:13:28
  was your 200 million greats, grandfather, but all African
• 1:13:32
  Apes. Were Apes were the show.
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  Yeah, exactly right. Yes.
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  So if I'm out in the woods for on Wolf, like, if I'm with close
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  friends, what's the problem? Yeah.
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  And what are you doing when you have time?
• 1:13:44
  So we're running around, we do kind of play it as wolves, like,
• 1:13:48
  on all fours. At times.
• 1:13:49
  Yes, sometimes we're two-way, good making wolf vocal stuff,
• 1:13:53
  but here's something I might do when I'm out there as far as a
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  howl, sure. That always gets me.
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  As you can see, these are the scientists who are claimed the
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  season pz Myers AJ said Brett. Let me finish a Chase question
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  because he does this to me all the time.
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  I do not say dogs produce non dogs.
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  I do say read my lips. Dogs came from a non dog, didn't
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  they? You're pivoting, you're changing
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  the topic, you won't just answer the question.
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  Your chart showing a me but turning to a dog, once it once
• 1:14:37
  you get dogs, the Bible says they bring forth after their
• 1:14:40
  kind, dogs will always produce dogs.
• 1:14:42
  There's a family tree of dogs, there's another family tree of
• 1:14:46
  strawberries, they're not connected in any deeper than
• 1:14:49
  that. That's what you don't.
• 1:14:51
  You don't, you don't understand. Or deliberately try to muddy the
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  water you believe you came from an ancestor like a fish.
• 1:14:58
  Like Steven or Dawkins order of guy's name, says going forward,
• 1:15:02
  you'll always produce humans and you'll argue that.
• 1:15:04
  That's not Evolution. This book is part of an
• 1:15:06
  evolution textbook and they teach dogs came from a protozoa
• 1:15:12
  going forward, they will always make dogs going backwards.
• 1:15:14
  They always came from dogs. That you want to go backwards
• 1:15:18
  and have him come from a protozoa or a single-celled
• 1:15:20
  creature. Don't you AJ?
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  So you just said, you just said, going forward.
• 1:15:25
  They always produce dogs, maybe. You don't mean to say it.
• 1:15:28
  But by implication what you're saying is that Evolution teaches
• 1:15:31
  that God dogs give birth to non dogs.
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  That's what you're implying. Yes, wait a minute.
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  No, it's the theory of evolution itself that tries to say things
• 1:15:41
  are going to evolve into something from an ancestor that
• 1:15:44
  it's totally different from that's not the creation
• 1:15:46
  narrative. The evolutionary narrative and
• 1:15:49
  we need to stay on point with that.
• 1:15:51
  You're not going to Swift us with your guys's baggage.
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  No, thank you. Dogs came from an amoeba in your
• 1:15:58
  religion. I don't believe that.
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  I think there's a family tree of dogs and God said 24 times in
• 1:16:04
  the first seven chapters, they would bring forth after their
• 1:16:07
  kind. They're certainly a family tree
• 1:16:08
  of dogs. Wolves coyotes dogs.
• 1:16:11
  Probably had a common ancestor and it looked like a dog but you
• 1:16:14
  want to go back billions of years in your imagination and
• 1:16:17
  make them connect it to a protozoa.
• 1:16:19
  That's where it's insane. Evolution teaches.
• 1:16:22
  All life forms came from a single cell.
• 1:16:25
  Well creature, do you believe the dogs all came from a single
• 1:16:29
  cell creature over billions or trillions of years aging?
• 1:16:33
  I don't know what you mean by came from, what do you mean came
• 1:16:36
  from? He means evolves from AJ, you
• 1:16:38
  know what he's talking about. Answer the question.
• 1:16:41
  If you have an answer on behalf of evolution answer a legitimate
• 1:16:45
  question, you never do that because it would be much easier
• 1:16:56
  for pastor Joven to stay on topic.
• 1:16:58
  If you would answer, even a single question and not try to
• 1:17:01
  slide a hand us with your guys. Baggage, we're not the ones who
• 1:17:04
  claim anything turns, into something else over billions of
• 1:17:08
  years. That's the claim of you
• 1:17:10
  evolutionists, you understand? You understand that mr.
• 1:17:17
  Holden is showing you presentations of what they teach
• 1:17:21
  in school. What?
• 1:17:22
  They teach in college. This is the concept of it, you
• 1:17:25
  get what he's talking about, you believe that you were snot on a
• 1:17:28
  rock and then went through all kinds of changes and then learn
• 1:17:31
  how to do lug ballet. Ted's billions of years later, I
• 1:17:35
  wish I had someone else do it. If you don't smell, can I ask
• 1:17:40
  you the question in a different way?
• 1:17:44
  Do you believe Evolution from a universal common?
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  Ancestor happened as a real historic event.
• 1:17:51
  And as a fact, do you actually believe that?
• 1:17:55
  So, I'm asking you in that way, as a real historic event, ignore
• 1:17:59
  the processes behind natural selection.
• 1:18:03
  I'm talking about as in a real historic event.
• 1:18:07
  Yes, but the reason that I don't like answering this question is
• 1:18:11
  because Kent is asking a completely pointless question.
• 1:18:15
  He does this in every single debate.
• 1:18:17
  He's it's a creation versus evolution is debate and he asked
• 1:18:20
  every single person. Do you think that you're related
• 1:18:23
  to a dog? Can't, you know that the other
• 1:18:26
  person thinks common ancestry is true.
• 1:18:28
  So you already know the answer to that question.
• 1:18:31
  You're just asking them. Oh, do you think that you're
• 1:18:33
  related to a sponge? And then they say yes, And then
• 1:18:37
  the people in the audience laughs, you're just making fun
• 1:18:39
  of people, you already know the answer.
• 1:18:40
  So that's why I don't like answer it because you it's a
• 1:18:42
  pointless question. The answer is yes I think is it
• 1:18:45
  that it's a pointless question or is that it's embarrassing for
• 1:18:49
  you guys to answer because, you know, you have to admit that you
• 1:18:51
  believe your part banana. Come on AJ, try harder, not done
• 1:18:55
  talking. So you don't have to interrupt
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  me. I think common ancestry is true.
• 1:18:59
  I think animals have common ancestry.
• 1:19:01
  I think Evolution happened. I think that I'm related to a
• 1:19:05
  dog. I think I'm related to X root X
• 1:19:08
  animal there so you don't have to ask that same question over
• 1:19:11
  and over and over again. Can't yes, animals have common
• 1:19:13
  ancestry Evolution happened. I think that Ryan I think a lot
• 1:19:18
  of creation and evolution debates come down to wordplay
• 1:19:22
  and word definitions, which is why a lot of people end up
• 1:19:25
  talking at Cross purposes. But in each training in socket
• 1:19:29
  in nice, simple one that everybody every day can just
• 1:19:34
  understand without going to the red, It whole lot of like trying
• 1:19:38
  to redefine words and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:19:41
  And when you use the word related to with, that's valid
• 1:19:45
  term, you know, because you're related to be concussed related
• 1:19:50
  to a second cousin once removed. Yeah, so that's a valid term.
• 1:19:55
  So if you broaden that out to the millionth customer once
• 1:19:58
  removed, what would that look like, you see?
• 1:20:01
  So again as these words, that Eeveelution least tend to try
• 1:20:06
  and, you know, People trying to focus on the word rather than
• 1:20:10
  the actual. What is being men?
• 1:20:13
  You see what I'm saying? Yes, but I think a defining,
• 1:20:17
  your terms in a debate is important.
• 1:20:18
  I think that's a great them though.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:20:21
  Let me, let me chime in for to make it real clear AJ, I believe
• 1:20:25
  there is a family tree of dogs. I believe there's a family tree
• 1:20:30
  of ladybugs. There are 20,000 species of
• 1:20:33
  ladybugs. I think is what they come up
• 1:20:35
  with. Now they might have Add a common
• 1:20:37
  ancestor called a ladybug. That's where it stops.
• 1:20:40
  That does not prove the roots go deeper on that tree and the
• 1:20:43
  ladybugs and the dogs have a common ancestor, but you want to
• 1:20:46
  hide behind this propaganda that we see dogs always produced
• 1:20:50
  dogs, okay? But yet you believe dogs came
• 1:20:53
  from something non dog, but you wouldn't want to talk about
• 1:20:56
  that. That's what I object to the
• 1:20:58
  textbook, says, all the many forms of life on Earth today,
• 1:21:01
  that would include the dogs and AJ are descended from a common
• 1:21:05
  ancestor. Is propaganda.
• 1:21:08
  This isn't science. This is a religious belief and
• 1:21:12
  it's found in a population of primitive you.
• 1:21:14
  And I cellular organisms, no. Traces of those events remained,
• 1:21:18
  these family trees are evil. Their propaganda, they're not
• 1:21:21
  science. There is a family tree of
• 1:21:23
  humans. You probably had grandparents
• 1:21:26
  and great grandparents and great.
• 1:21:27
  Great you and I might have a common ancestor.
• 1:21:29
  If we go back far enough but you and my dog do not have a common
• 1:21:32
  ancestor. So if we go back to a said that
• 1:21:35
  the strawberries might have a comment Ancestors.
• 1:21:37
  So do you not know? No, the straw by many kinds of
• 1:21:40
  strawberries they have. Sorry.
• 1:21:41
  The ladybugs ladybugs might have a common ancestor.
• 1:21:44
  I'm not was lady, I've not studied ladybugs in the
• 1:21:47
  laboratory to know but I think it's logical to say they're all
• 1:21:50
  the varieties of ladybugs might have had a ladybug ancestor.
• 1:21:53
  Just like all the humans might have had a human ancestor, but
• 1:21:56
  you jump to the wild conclusion. That that is proof ladybugs and
• 1:21:59
  humans have a common ancestor know, this chart shows him?
• 1:22:03
  Yeah you do. Don't leave me with him right
• 1:22:05
  here. Humans might have a common
• 1:22:08
  ancestor so you don't know. So that means it's not science,
• 1:22:11
  right. I'm only 70 years old?
• 1:22:13
  I haven't observed humans from billions or trillions of years.
• 1:22:16
  We know in the laboratory and in reality humans only produce
• 1:22:19
  humans. I bet your parents were human.
• 1:22:23
  I bet your grandparents were human.
• 1:22:25
  I bet we can go back to Noah, getting off the ark with eight
• 1:22:28
  humans. But that doesn't prove, you're
• 1:22:30
  related to a lady bug. So you would, you think is only
• 1:22:34
  humans? Does that mean?
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  You think Evolution teaches that humans gave birth to something?
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  That's not a human? No.
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  Humans always give birth to humans.
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  That's the pro agree. I agree.
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  You know, but you believe that a protozoa slowly gave birth to a
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  human liver, dysfunction, how do you have a protozoa?
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  Can't give Birth to anything. Okay?
• 1:22:55
  Protozoa make babies this chart shows a protozoa being the great
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  great, great, great, great. Great grandparent of everything.
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  That's not science. That's a religion saying, that
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  produce give birth and make babies isn't science.
• 1:23:09
  Can I do some division? Much in the summary of what the
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  atheist evolutionists are claiming.
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  I'm not in Hope and that's not can Tobin's assertion.
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  He's battling against the stupidity.
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  I don't understand why it is. He tried to put the burden on
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  him but I got a question for you jr.
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  Having to do with Evolution, can you explain what variables in
• 1:23:45
  the environment? Cause pain receptors brain
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  signals and a nervous system. I'd like to know what was
• 1:23:51
  happening in the environment that made this happen.
• 1:23:57
  What happened to the environment to cause pain receptors?
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  Yes, it is. Believed that in order for
• 1:24:03
  evolution to have changes on anatomical structure, there has
• 1:24:08
  to be something happening in the environment that impacts the
• 1:24:11
  creature living thing itself. So the question again, I'll
• 1:24:16
  repeat it. Can anyone including yourself
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  explain what variables and the environment caused pain
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  receptors brain signals. And the complexity of the
• 1:24:27
  nervous system as well. You would probably have a an
• 1:24:37
  organism that was very early in evolution that needed to be able
• 1:24:42
  to sense, its surroundings, and be able to tell if a predator
• 1:24:46
  was trying to eat it or bite it. So that's a selection pressure.
• 1:24:51
  Then we're to probably for able to convey nervous and nervous
• 1:24:54
  system if you die or a creature gets mauled by a bear, doesn't
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  care. Now, nature is very indifferent
• 1:25:04
  to animal suffering. It's very brutal AJ.
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  Yeah, I'd like to kind of read up a little bit of a science
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  paper to you and that what you were saying earlier whereby you
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  actually believe it's a fact. Yeah.
• 1:25:20
  So that that you believe, it's the fact that even Lucien from
• 1:25:23
  Universal, common ancestor actually occurred in history and
• 1:25:27
  that science, proves your client.
• 1:25:28
  Yeah, I don't believe it. I just said, Just agreeing said
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  okay if you want to be able to accept okay set, the scientific
• 1:25:36
  consensus. I agree with the okay, right.
• 1:25:39
  I'll read you from a scientific paper called a formal test of
• 1:25:43
  the theory of universal, common ancestry.
• 1:25:46
  The abstract States, the classic evidence for Universal common
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  ancestry. Although massive is largely
• 1:25:53
  restricted to local common ancestry for example, of
• 1:25:58
  specific filer, rather than the entire entirety of life and has
• 1:26:04
  yet to fully integrate. The recent advances is from
• 1:26:07
  Modern phylogenetics and probability Theory.
• 1:26:11
  Although Universal common ancestry is widely assumed so
• 1:26:16
  I'll repeat that or low Universal.
• 1:26:18
  Common ancestry is widely assumed, it has rarely been
• 1:26:22
  subjected to formal quantitative testing and this has led to
• 1:26:27
  critical commentary emphasizing the intrinsic technical
• 1:26:32
  Difficulties in empirically evaluating the theory of such
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  broad scope that's that's a scientific position.
• 1:26:42
  Okay. So it's widely assumed to put
• 1:26:44
  the link to that in the private Shack.
• 1:26:46
  Could you do that? Yeah you're dragging her.
• 1:26:49
  Well he's getting the information for you though.
• 1:26:51
  You didn't exactly answer the question.
• 1:26:54
  You said well we had to have this in order for us to be able
• 1:26:58
  to have the advantage or benefit of being able to run whenever
• 1:27:02
  Creatures coming after us or trying to eat us but this
• 1:27:04
  doesn't explain why we even have pain receptors to begin with OR
• 1:27:09
  why the complex nervous system came into existence.
• 1:27:12
  You're kind of giving us the horse but not the carriage here
• 1:27:15
  sir. Well your it's a it's an
• 1:27:18
  extremely complex topic and I don't know the exact answer to
• 1:27:23
  that but if I had to give like a general answer, I would say that
• 1:27:30
  an RA Early ancestor of humans. So not a human.
• 1:27:35
  This is a long time ago. In evolution would need to be
• 1:27:39
  able to sense its surroundings and so that would be as
• 1:27:42
  selection pressure for developing nerves and a nervous
• 1:27:46
  system that essentially in the past.
• 1:27:54
  It would be very advantageous for me and beneficial to grow
• 1:27:58
  bat wings. So I can save on gas.
• 1:28:01
  Yeah, it sounds like it could be something I would need but
• 1:28:04
  you're not given us the reason how Evolution would have done
• 1:28:08
  this. You're not telling us why the
• 1:28:11
  pain receptors came into existence.
• 1:28:13
  Why the nervous system you're just simply telling us what it
• 1:28:16
  does. We already know what pain
• 1:28:18
  receptors do. I don't know how many times
• 1:28:20
  can't hit its hand with a hammer while doing his construction.
• 1:28:23
  He knows what an ouch me. How did it get there though?
• 1:28:30
  I you ask me. What would what was the reason
• 1:28:34
  that we would have a nervous system, the variable from the
• 1:28:39
  environment? What was going on in the
• 1:28:41
  environment that would make such a complex construction of this
• 1:28:46
  predation? Would you elaborate, please
• 1:28:51
  predators, try to eat other animals so they need to be able
• 1:28:54
  to sense their surroundings so that they can survive long
• 1:28:57
  enough to reproduce. That's a selection pressure.
• 1:29:01
  Those Evolution care about our needs.
• 1:29:03
  Can't, well, he's making up a story.
• 1:29:07
  Where's the science behind this? He make up a story.
• 1:29:10
  Well, we need this, so it, we evolved it because we needed it.
• 1:29:14
  They've been many times I needed a third arm to hold something
• 1:29:16
  when I'm trying to get the door open.
• 1:29:18
  Just this is insane. This isn't science.
• 1:29:21
  I wish you could see it. AJ.
• 1:29:23
  You're a fairy tale story. Teller is all you are evolution
• 1:29:26
  is a fairy tale for grown-ups that we don't ever see this to
• 1:29:30
  say well we somebody must have needed it so it evolved.
• 1:29:34
  This is making up a story. My point is even if it's true at
• 1:29:37
  this point. It's not science is not
• 1:29:39
  observable, get it out of the textbooks, these family trees,
• 1:29:42
  our religion, it was so the other thing is that that is
• 1:29:46
  lamarckism and Sciences. Generally debunks.
• 1:29:49
  Lamarckism, you know, and the environment does obviously
• 1:29:54
  contribute to a phenotype being expressed depending on whether
• 1:29:58
  you're in a cold environment or a hot environment Etc, but
• 1:30:02
  you're dealing with very complex interdependent processes here.
• 1:30:07
  So as soon as you take two organs, three organs for organs,
• 1:30:12
  which are all interdependent, and you start to take away that
• 1:30:16
  in interdependence. It's through gradual changes,
• 1:30:21
  things will start to break. And that's a lot of the problem.
• 1:30:26
  So I never I never said that they evolved and nervous system
• 1:30:30
  because they needed it. So DNA.
• 1:30:32
  Replicates and mutations happen randomly and those mutations are
• 1:30:39
  either beneficial or they're harmful or neutral, and the
• 1:30:44
  beneficial ones are going to be selected for at a rate that's
• 1:30:46
  higher than 0%. And animals are going to adapt
• 1:30:50
  to their environment. It's they didn't get anything
• 1:30:52
  because they needed or wanted. It it's just mutations happen
• 1:30:57
  and there's are going to get selected for, so I didn't say
• 1:31:00
  anything about it needing. Okay, AJ, would you please give
• 1:31:05
  her the best example, you know, of a beneficial mutation Well,
• 1:31:10
  beneficial mutations are context-specific so a mutation
• 1:31:14
  that's beneficial in one environment.
• 1:31:16
  For one organism might not be beneficial for a different
• 1:31:20
  organism but there is examples of humans that have thicker
• 1:31:23
  bones and stronger bones from mutations that are resistant to
• 1:31:28
  Breaking. There's mutations that cause
• 1:31:31
  resistance to HIV. There's people who live in high
• 1:31:35
  altitudes who have had developed mutations in their family.
• 1:31:40
  Lee where they can breathe more easily than somebody who came
• 1:31:44
  from a lower altitude. There's one at a time now.
• 1:31:49
  Okay, there are humans that have thicker bones.
• 1:31:52
  I would agree bone density. That's not a mutation.
• 1:31:55
  They already have bones to start with.
• 1:31:58
  I have a few have them so you didn't add any new information,
• 1:32:02
  getting a stronger about getting a stronger.
• 1:32:04
  This is not new information. They already had a bone.
• 1:32:07
  Yeah, that green agitation made it strong.
• 1:32:10
  That is new information. Every mutation is new
• 1:32:12
  information because it's changing one letter of its
• 1:32:17
  nucleotide sequence to a different letter.
• 1:32:19
  So that's new information. If you guys don't mind real
• 1:32:22
  quick, I'd like to show what the definition of an actual mutation
• 1:32:26
  is any change in the DNA sequence of the cell mutations.
• 1:32:31
  May be caused by mistakes during cell division or they may be
• 1:32:35
  caused by exposure of damaging agents and the environment.
• 1:32:40
  Aunt, that's not adding information.
• 1:32:42
  That's damages, that's not beneficial at all.
• 1:32:46
  Yeah, DNA tries to replicate itself perfectly but it is never
• 1:32:50
  going to there's going to be replication errors.
• 1:32:53
  That doesn't inherently mean that.
• 1:32:55
  It's a bad thing. It could lead to a mutation
• 1:32:57
  that's beneficial or it could lead to one.
• 1:32:59
  That's totally neutral. This is your imagination
• 1:33:03
  earlier. Good now, it's not.
• 1:33:05
  Its genetic science, it's not imagination.
• 1:33:08
  That's why I said, what's the best example you run off on five
• 1:33:11
  of let's just pick one. Yeah, I gave multiple Well, that
• 1:33:16
  you gave multiple everybody uses.
• 1:33:17
  You say they're not. You say there are none, I gave
• 1:33:20
  three. Okay.
• 1:33:21
  You think humans with thicker bones came from a mutation, I'd
• 1:33:25
  like you to send me information on that.
• 1:33:27
  I'll study that up and get ready for that.
• 1:33:29
  You far to go read it. If I send you anything, you
• 1:33:31
  won't read it. You're lying AJ.
• 1:33:34
  I will read anything. You send me.
• 1:33:36
  If it's short enough, I got time for.
• 1:33:38
  I got busy life, read that when people have AJ, AJ AJ.
• 1:34:16
  And is a result of evolution and a DNA replication error.
• 1:34:20
  And that's the process. You want to count on this going
• 1:34:22
  to change an amoeba or a protozoa into a whale or a
• 1:34:26
  human. You think, slow gradual,
• 1:34:28
  accumulation of trillions of mutations changed a
• 1:34:31
  single-celled creature. I'll put up on screen again for
• 1:34:34
  you. Here, you believe these kind of
• 1:34:36
  charts that a single-celled creature turned to everything
• 1:34:39
  today by mutations. Is that your answer?
• 1:34:43
  Even topic. Why can't you ever stay on one
• 1:34:45
  topic? Kent.
• 1:34:47
  All right. Mister junior, you're not
• 1:34:49
  answering any of those questions and it's obvious, he's been in
• 1:34:53
  over 300 debates. He's doing an open discussion,
• 1:34:56
  allowing anybody and everybody to come at them with whatever.
• 1:35:00
  So, for you to say that, he's not intellectually honest, or
• 1:35:03
  open to discussion as an absolute lies, sir, he has
• 1:35:08
  anybody heard anything in 300 debates?
• 1:35:11
  Oh, okay. Well, let's say I have another
• 1:35:13
  one called standing for truth. We have another one tomorrow
• 1:35:15
  night and and you give me the best evidence you have.
• 1:35:20
  And where's the evidence for evolution?
• 1:35:21
  You want this kind of chart taught to all the kids in
• 1:35:24
  school. You believe you came from a
• 1:35:27
  protozoa. You want to, we want me to pay
• 1:35:29
  to have the kids taught that. That's evil.
• 1:35:32
  That's propaganda. That's not science.
• 1:35:35
  There's probably a family tree of birds that go back to a
• 1:35:37
  common ancestor called a bird. Why would you connect the As in
• 1:35:41
  the frogs on a chart like this, this isn't science.
• 1:35:45
  She science or what we observe study test and demonstrate you
• 1:35:47
  think on a change in the DNA, a random change.
• 1:35:50
  A mutation is going to change something into a frog and
• 1:35:54
  something else into a bird. No, that's not my imagination.
• 1:35:58
  That's what they're showing. No, that's not.
• 1:36:01
  You're lying. All right, we got another user
• 1:36:04
  and and as I said at the very beginning, the roles are people
• 1:36:07
  have to control themselves, get to behave, you don't get
• 1:36:10
  personal. Small.
• 1:36:11
  You got to have a discussion. We got someone called 1 over Pi.
• 1:36:15
  I suppose. Nice name.
• 1:36:17
  How are you? You have to act.
• 1:36:22
  Yes, you have to unmute your microphone and then speak.
• 1:36:26
  Yeah. Can you hear me?
• 1:36:27
  We can you coming through. Clear.
• 1:36:29
  What you got for sir? I've been researching a lot
• 1:36:33
  about genetics lately. I don't like biology.
• 1:36:36
  By the way, I want to debate. You Kent sometime later but
• 1:36:43
  genetic mutations, don't always remove information.
• 1:36:46
  Under sometimes they, there's a Thing called a reference frame
• 1:36:52
  mutation, which can basically insert a gene into already
• 1:36:58
  existing DNA, moving everything across, which causes new RNA to
• 1:37:03
  be formed which causes new proteins of this is new
• 1:37:05
  information being added which would in turn cause unexpected
• 1:37:11
  mutations especially if they're at the end of already existing
• 1:37:15
  beneficial genes or unused jeans.
• 1:37:20
  Okay. This is a belief that you have,
• 1:37:23
  has this been demonstrated to change it to any other kind of
• 1:37:26
  animal or plant. What will the changing into
• 1:37:28
  other kinds of animals? We can't observe this, because
• 1:37:31
  that's, that's again. Millions of years of tiny.
• 1:37:34
  Tiny, tiny changes over a very big time frame.
• 1:37:37
  But the things we do, see these changes occur in small small
• 1:37:41
  forms. But the thing is, if you repeat
• 1:37:43
  this over and over and over, what is preventing an animal
• 1:37:46
  from changing current, a pretty sure the very definition of
• 1:37:49
  science This is, it's got to be observable this.
• 1:37:52
  Our man here just told us that they needed an observable.
• 1:37:55
  So, what he does happen with faith-based.
• 1:37:59
  Well, I have a question for him to.
• 1:38:01
  I would like to know if he could explain to us when we evolve to
• 1:38:04
  Seoul Hey, what? Brett.
• 1:38:07
  Hang on a second. I'm sorry, brother.
• 1:38:09
  It's been an hour and a half. I got to go.
• 1:38:10
  But why don't you have both of these guys, one over pi and AJ
• 1:38:15
  pick one particular topic that you wanted to be mutations the
• 1:38:18
  schedule the debate on your channel and Brett you moderate
• 1:38:22
  equal time. No interrupting one Topic at a
• 1:38:25
  time debatable singer that's great.
• 1:38:29
  And people you also had the opportunity to go to standing
• 1:38:32
  for truth and if you want a full one debate like that where Is
• 1:38:36
  timed and not quite the open discussion.
• 1:38:39
  We have over here, he's got a great Channel Kent's, got a lot
• 1:38:42
  of material over there and I'm sure he'd love to debate.
• 1:38:44
  Anybody just get a hold of Donnie over there.
• 1:38:48
  One over Pi. I'm going to ask you one more
• 1:38:50
  question. I might let can't get out of
• 1:38:52
  here because he's got a very, very busy existence.
• 1:38:56
  The question was asked to AJ earlier, can you explain the
• 1:38:59
  variables in the environment that caused pain receptors brain
• 1:39:04
  signals and the nervous system to come?
• 1:39:06
  Into existence. Well, as small mutations could
• 1:39:10
  have caused just nerves, like individual cells of nerves to
• 1:39:14
  exist. Now, that in itself wouldn't
• 1:39:16
  have been necessarily beneficial.
• 1:39:18
  But the thing is, if you connect that to being able to feel, just
• 1:39:22
  your environment, just feel not even pain, just being able to
• 1:39:26
  sense what's happening around you.
• 1:39:27
  You would have more information on how to survive, how to run.
• 1:39:32
  You would know that hot water is hot and cold, water is cold and
• 1:39:35
  that isn't beneficial. Fill your survival.
• 1:39:37
  And you would now know this that that the thing is small,
• 1:39:41
  mutations that could cause this internally re the magic word is
• 1:39:45
  me, Tatian all the time. You taking the time.
• 1:39:48
  Can I jump in on that real quick before we do that?
• 1:39:51
  Let's get, let's give him the opportunity to get out of here.
• 1:39:54
  Let's, let's give SpongeBob a tug and a hammer real quick.
• 1:39:58
  And let's, let's let can't get out of here.
• 1:40:01
  Thank you, Kent for being a part of the show.
• 1:40:03
  Always excellent. Whenever you're involved.
• 1:40:06
  I'll schedule the debate and always it's imagination and lots
• 1:40:09
  of time. You guys need some real science.
• 1:40:11
  What you have just demonstrated for the world to see is you have
• 1:40:14
  a religious belief that it happened.
• 1:40:17
  You don't have any science, we don't observe cows produced on
• 1:40:19
  cows. You can believe it if you want
• 1:40:22
  and you do great. Congratulations.
• 1:40:24
  But it's not science and I resented.
• 1:40:25
  It made me feel DNA with cows. I gotta go.
• 1:40:30
  Thank you Pastor for being with Brad and I, all right.
• 1:40:34
  All right, I'm going to put a mr.
• 1:40:36
  Proverbs up on the screen. Let's see what we got.
• 1:40:40
  Let me take this Banner off and then we'll talk for a few
• 1:40:44
  minutes and then end the Show. Excellent stuff.
• 1:40:47
  Excellent stuff. Rob, did you have a good time?
• 1:40:50
  I've had a brilliant time, my friend, and I sent a Jaya
• 1:40:53
  scientific paper that says that science.
• 1:40:56
  Confirms that Evolution from you say, CIA is just widely assumed.
• 1:41:01
  That's all it is in science. So, At least you think that the
• 1:41:06
  militant atheist would actually question things.
• 1:41:10
  And you know almost as if okay, if there is problems with this
• 1:41:15
  Theory then maybe there's another theory but they'd so
• 1:41:20
  want to hang on to this. Don't they my friend?
• 1:41:22
  They just don't let go wherever you present.
• 1:41:25
  Well to be fair Rob, I have seen some atheists like an atheist.
• 1:41:29
  I've had on my show many times who I consider extremely
• 1:41:33
  intelligent He has issues and he discusses his problems with
• 1:41:37
  Evolution the Cambrian Period, and he also talks about his
• 1:41:40
  issues, with the big bang and the theory of the universe and
• 1:41:44
  all that, and he takes a lot of heat from the 80s Community.
• 1:41:47
  It seems, as if you question the program where the what someone
• 1:41:51
  referred to as brainwashing, they'll just obliterate, each
• 1:41:55
  other in their Community for even Having the courage and the
• 1:42:00
  fortitude to go against it. Yeah, yeah but it's been a good
• 1:42:05
  night. Has been good night.
• 1:42:06
  Did all the evolutionist exit the room Brett.
• 1:42:10
  No, the problem was Junior in the mr.
• 1:42:13
  Kent, we're getting so passionate on there.
• 1:42:15
  It was getting to the point where they were talking over
• 1:42:17
  each other. I can bring mr.
• 1:42:19
  Junior back in if you'd like to talk to him for a few minutes
• 1:42:22
  and before we end it, yeah, bring him back in.
• 1:42:25
  Yeah. If he can have a respectful
• 1:42:27
  conversation that would be great.
• 1:42:29
  But you notice AJ, what you did is you were losing And your
• 1:42:33
  argument. So you started personal attacks
• 1:42:35
  calling can a liar and everything else.
• 1:42:38
  Like that's the sure signs of a losing argument can't constantly
• 1:42:43
  accusing other people of lying. Scientists have lying teachers
• 1:42:46
  of lying, biologists have lying he constantly does that
• 1:42:49
  evolutionists are lying if they're not lying, you guys are
• 1:42:53
  strongly delusional. Why is it not okay for me to
• 1:42:56
  call someone a liar but it's okay for Kent to do it.
• 1:42:58
  Yeah, we got to hold the same standardized.
• 1:42:59
  That's I definitely agree with that.
• 1:43:02
  Yeah. I think also speaking from an
• 1:43:04
  atheist, you know, when I was a former atheist, a lot of it,
• 1:43:08
  we've me was assumption, you know, I would assume this theory
• 1:43:13
  is true and it sounded plausible at the time based on my mindset
• 1:43:18
  but I don't think I was so militant, literally, hang on to
• 1:43:22
  it for my dear life, you know. And that's the thing I think,
• 1:43:27
  and I think a lot of atheists, don't lie, and a lot of people
• 1:43:30
  don't, you know, a lot of I'm teachers, don't lie and things
• 1:43:34
  like that. I just think they formed this
• 1:43:36
  assumption over years and that's that's what they're taught to
• 1:43:39
  teach children and that's where they're at, but you do get some
• 1:43:44
  militant atheists who lie. And at the same time, you get
• 1:43:48
  creationists, who do end up being on the defensive a bit and
• 1:43:53
  go off track and use words that they don't really mean to use.
• 1:43:57
  And then they misinterpreted by evolutionists who jump on that
• 1:44:00
  word and then it becomes a wordplay Say backwards and
• 1:44:03
  forwards, just about the word. And that's part of the problem.
• 1:44:06
  Think there's one other issue to Robin.
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  I understand jr. That you and Kent, I suppose
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  have a internet history or whatever.
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  But the deal is this is God TV radio.
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  And at the very beginning of our show, we throw up these rules
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  that way our guests can feel like they can actually have an
• 1:44:24
  open discussion. There's plenty of podcasts and
• 1:44:27
  rooms where people yell and call each other names and beat their
• 1:44:30
  chests like an evolved primate. But Here.
• 1:44:33
  We try to work on the custom and that's hard for me a true love.
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  Oh no personal attacks. Be respectful.
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  No ranting or droning. Basically people go on for 10
• 1:44:45
  minutes and then stay on topic. Stay on topic.
• 1:44:48
  So, that's what we're trying to do here.
• 1:44:50
  I apologize. If you have some issue with
• 1:44:52
  them, it would be best for you to if you wanted the baiting.
• 1:44:56
  If you really want to hardcore time debate where as moderator
• 1:45:00
  doing that, that'd be the best, or if you like Like this format
• 1:45:03
  better. We can set something up.
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  I will read your emails. I will respond to you.
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  Now I I agree. It is your show Brett and and
• 1:45:13
  you know I will totally admit that.
• 1:45:15
  I do get frustrated talking to Kent because from my perspective
• 1:45:19
  I feel like he is just not getting what I'm saying, I'm
• 1:45:25
  sure he thinks the same thing about me, but I have no interest
• 1:45:30
  in debating can in that type of format.
• 1:45:33
  I much prefer this type of show and I'm glad that you're doing
• 1:45:39
  these type of show Is because it's easier to have a discussion
• 1:45:43
  rather than I'm not a big fan of the, like, timed opening section
• 1:45:48
  opening comments and, and all that stuff because I feel like
• 1:45:54
  it. There's never enough time to
• 1:45:55
  actually get to the good part of the debate, if that makes sense.
• 1:46:00
  So I much prefer this type of format.
• 1:46:03
  Anyway, when would you be willing to AJ?
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  Well, I've already debated Kent twice and I don't really see
• 1:46:09
  much point. It in it because no matter what
• 1:46:13
  can't is always going to say, there's no evidence for
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  evolution. So, no matter what anybody says
• 1:46:18
  to him, he's always going to say, there's no evidence for
• 1:46:21
  evolution no matter what does it matter what you show him.
• 1:46:25
  He's gonna let me ask you let me ask you a question that you
• 1:46:30
  probably never even been asked on this, is there a possibility
• 1:46:34
  that he can have his view on things and you can have your
• 1:46:37
  view and somehow you to be able to get along and just have a
• 1:46:41
  decent conversation without it getting all muddy and messy like
• 1:46:44
  this. It's impossible because you seem
• 1:46:46
  like you can have a good conversation.
• 1:46:48
  I know Kent capable that is there a way that you guys can
• 1:46:51
  just meet in the middle. If Kent wasn't so condescending,
• 1:46:56
  then maybe Please extremely condescending.
• 1:47:01
  I can see how plants videos come off as condescending.
• 1:47:03
  I think they're really funny but if I were on the other end of
• 1:47:05
  that it's funny. But yeah I wouldn't I would
• 1:47:08
  definitely think it's condescending.
• 1:47:09
  That's why I'm saying that the whole asking people, do you
• 1:47:13
  think you're related to a strawberry saying you came from
• 1:47:15
  a rock. That's just a mockery can't just
• 1:47:17
  making fun of people. It doesn't have anything to do
• 1:47:19
  with science your debate. That's like so my favorite part
• 1:47:22
  of people parts of it, those are the best parts.
• 1:47:25
  It's why you showed that video of the person, how I'm like a
• 1:47:29
  wolf because you want to make fun of that person for their
• 1:47:31
  appearance, but AJ in and truthfulness that is such a fair
• 1:47:35
  question though. When you ask someone who
• 1:47:38
  believes in evolution, do you believe you come from Iraq?
• 1:47:41
  And the answer is, is, if you go back billions or trillions or
• 1:47:45
  whatever the consensus is now because it changes every 10 to
• 1:47:48
  15, 20 years, the answer is yes, they believe you came from
• 1:47:52
  rocks. They believe the origins of
• 1:47:54
  life, began from soupy, radioactive rocks or space dust.
• 1:47:59
  That's just a fact. So you guys get offended by
• 1:48:03
  questioning one of your strongholds.
• 1:48:06
  It makes no sense AJ. Well, you and I think you could
• 1:48:09
  be a single video of evolution is saying, I believe I came from
• 1:48:12
  a rock. You will never find that video.
• 1:48:14
  Brett, I believe you had several of them, didn't you?
• 1:48:17
  Yeah, we've got tons and tons of Clips, but like I said, we've
• 1:48:20
  been goin on for about two hours.
• 1:48:23
  I'll be more than happy to play some more of them on the next
• 1:48:25
  show. On the show we did before this
• 1:48:28
  and the other talk show, we had with Kent, we played a bunch of
• 1:48:31
  Clips. I know, it sounds weird.
• 1:48:34
  It sounds really odd to us and it may come off as mockery, but
• 1:48:38
  do you jr. Whenever you see, people make
• 1:48:40
  like videos where they're attacking Kent, under all kinds
• 1:48:44
  of different things you ever say to them, hey maybe you should
• 1:48:47
  quit acting this way. You're behaving towards this way
• 1:48:49
  of Kent, maybe this is way of Kent's defending himself
• 1:48:53
  whenever he's dealing with people liked us know and I will
• 1:48:58
  freely admit That I make fun of Kent on my videos a lot and I've
• 1:49:02
  done a ton of videos about KET I openly admit that and I that's
• 1:49:07
  why I don't begrudge him for dishing it back to me.
• 1:49:13
  I can I can accept that. I think that I've deserve it
• 1:49:16
  basically but if he's going to misrepresent evolution by saying
• 1:49:22
  we dogs, only produce dogs. I don't see how the implication
• 1:49:26
  of that. Isn't that Evolution teaches
• 1:49:28
  that dog? Dogs produce something that
• 1:49:29
  isn't a dog, and can't specifically said when I
• 1:49:32
  debated, and he said, produce means give birth.
• 1:49:34
  But every single time I tried to ask Kent about that, he
• 1:49:37
  immediately changes the topic to either common ancestry or
• 1:49:41
  talking about single-celled, organisms, or talking about
• 1:49:44
  Evolution going back, millions of years and I could, it was
• 1:49:47
  like trying to nail Jello to the wall.
• 1:49:49
  He's constantly change the topic.
• 1:49:51
  That's why I get frustrated. I think when Kent you brought up
• 1:49:55
  earlier that you, you don't like it whenever can't bring.
• 1:49:58
  Up strawberries and sponges and you listed off a bunch of
• 1:50:02
  things. You don't like to see them do in
• 1:50:03
  debates. Has it ever occurred to you?
• 1:50:05
  That these are rhetorical questions are.
• 1:50:08
  He's just trying to not just also make it to where the show's
• 1:50:11
  fun and there's a little bit of weird.
• 1:50:14
  People are being silly and rugged on each other but also he
• 1:50:17
  wants to figure out what exactly the other person believes about
• 1:50:21
  their existence. How they evolved what happened.
• 1:50:24
  All this. Just so he can get kind of a
• 1:50:26
  baseline of where somebody's coming from.
• 1:50:28
  Um, no, I don't think so because like I said, Kent already knows
• 1:50:33
  the answer to these questions. He already knows if he asks an
• 1:50:36
  evolutionist, do you think you're related to a chimpanzee?
• 1:50:40
  They're going to say yes. And they do think that that's
• 1:50:42
  true. So, he's just asking that as a
• 1:50:46
  way to make fun of people. So the people in the audience
• 1:50:49
  can laugh often, it's not necessarily.
• 1:50:53
  Making fun is about getting them to think about the question.
• 1:50:57
  Are you really really Related to a squirrel.
• 1:51:01
  Is he your one-millionth distant cousin?
• 1:51:04
  Once removed or wherever you want to word it?
• 1:51:07
  You know, you use the word relation.
• 1:51:09
  So eats a lot of comedians do this.
• 1:51:11
  They take a nice complicated subject, simplify it for comedic
• 1:51:16
  value, but it's explained in such a way that is nice and
• 1:51:19
  simple to people, you know, everyday people and that's the
• 1:51:24
  thing and it does sound funny and that's the thing and I can
• 1:51:27
  understand why some I'm atheists are offended by it but really it
• 1:51:32
  again. It's like, like I said,
• 1:51:34
  Universal common ancestry is assumed.
• 1:51:37
  Yeah. It's assumed because there's not
• 1:51:40
  enough evidence covering all these questions Integrations
• 1:51:43
  asks if they so many unanswered questions, I know, I know you
• 1:51:46
  do. Yeah.
• 1:51:47
  Because that's you, you do believe.
• 1:51:50
  It's a fact and that's fine. You can have that belief, but I
• 1:51:54
  mean it. So it's just the way you can
• 1:51:58
  take. He's explaining things that.
• 1:51:59
  So that's his. Why that's his manner?
• 1:52:02
  No, I'd love to continuously. Have your in the show and stuff.
• 1:52:08
  I think that you're a decent speaker, and you've got some
• 1:52:12
  points that you'd like to put out there.
• 1:52:13
  I hope you continue to come back.
• 1:52:15
  I do got to shut this down. I hope that you take my
• 1:52:18
  suggestion though. Just realize, Kent is going to
• 1:52:21
  be Kent. You're going to be who you are
• 1:52:24
  and try not to get. So aggravated in the discussion,
• 1:52:28
  were It's he's going to be funny.
• 1:52:30
  He's going to crack jokes. You're going to crack jokes have
• 1:52:33
  a good time with it. Just an open discussion.
• 1:52:36
  All right folks. Yeah sure.
• 1:52:38
  I just wanted to say real quick that to Rob I post I since we
• 1:52:43
  don't really have time. I posted a link that you can,
• 1:52:48
  you can click on that and that that will sort of be my reply to
• 1:52:51
  the article that you gave me. But I thought you asked me some
• 1:52:54
  good questions Rob, so I appreciate that.
• 1:52:56
  Yeah, I'll just try to because I can because I I was an atheist.
• 1:52:59
  So I come from both sides of the fence.
• 1:53:01
  So I've watched a lot of debates and can see their
• 1:53:04
  misunderstandings between the device and the words and things.
• 1:53:07
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