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- 1:00Speaker 3: Quick question for you, how long do you think this
- 1:03Speaker 3: cool or like Civil War last? And who do you
- 1:06Speaker 3: think is truly behind us? Because I don't believe in coincidences.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Haiti's been under attack for a couple of centuries. You
- 1:15Speaker 3: don't have to go down to conspiracy theory, Aisle, but
- 1:19Speaker 3: who do you think is behind this coordinated attack?
- 1:21Speaker 4: I definitely won't go down conspiracy theory. I'll just bring
- 1:26Speaker 4: just pure facts.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Right. So if you've seen the Marines.
- 1:31Speaker 4: Have occupied Haiti, I think it was nineteen fourteen, you know,
- 1:34Speaker 4: we could keep going with the history. Then we had
- 1:38Speaker 4: the dictator right, we had popping dot right, and we
- 1:44Speaker 4: could see that this pattern of Haiti all the way
- 1:49Speaker 4: today is Haiti has been failed in policy making through
- 1:57Speaker 4: corruption of the politics that's constantly influenced right by outside forces.
- 2:06Speaker 4: And what that means is they're not in the level
- 2:09Speaker 4: of negotiating. They're always on the level of greed, so
- 2:12Speaker 4: they think of greed before the actual people.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Right. So again I always say this, and I say
- 2:18Speaker 1: this strongly.
- 2:19Speaker 4: Right, if I need help in my house, I have
- 2:24Speaker 4: to be able to fix my house, and I have
- 2:26Speaker 4: to weave out certain players.
- 2:30Speaker 1: And the thing is, I feel.
- 2:32Speaker 4: That the people of Haiti, through the diaspora through us
- 2:38Speaker 4: have to get stronger and making certain decisions on who
- 2:44Speaker 4: the actors are going to be moving forward, sort of
- 2:47Speaker 4: like the Twilight Zone. It's a constant episode where you know,
- 2:51Speaker 4: we know something weird it's going to happen at the
- 2:53Speaker 4: very end. And this has been the pattern of Haiti.
- 2:56Speaker 4: And understand is the legislation pieces the most important. I
- 3:01Speaker 4: think that as we move towards Haiti, we have to
- 3:04Speaker 4: get to the center. And what I mean by that
- 3:08Speaker 4: everything for Haiti thus far have been a left movement, like.
- 3:15Speaker 1: A super left movement in the House of Representative.
- 3:19Speaker 4: I don't know too many Republicans that ever talk about
- 3:22Speaker 4: had So I think that we have to get in
- 3:24Speaker 4: the center because the policies are still being shaped in
- 3:29Speaker 4: parts of it out of Washington, d C. Right, So
- 3:33Speaker 4: I look at us within the United States, and I
- 3:36Speaker 4: say that within North America, I feel that we can
- 3:40Speaker 4: do much more by looking at Congress and looking at
- 3:48Speaker 4: who's the ambassadors of Haiti?
- 3:50Speaker 1: What are these laws? Right?
- 3:52Speaker 4: So you have like Alligar families that leave Haiti and
- 3:55Speaker 4: go to Washington, D C. And they are the ones
- 3:57Speaker 4: that help shape policies. So how do we start participating
- 4:02Speaker 4: in that? So again, I think that it's a contribution
- 4:06Speaker 4: of us here in the stage. I think it's a
- 4:08Speaker 4: contribution of you know, powers that have a lot of
- 4:12Speaker 4: money want to see Haiti in this position.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Why a few things.
- 4:18Speaker 4: I think that if we get to act together, one
- 4:22Speaker 4: of the things that we can focus on is our
- 4:24Speaker 4: natural resources.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:26Speaker 4: So, despite what they told you about Haiti, I sent
- 4:30Speaker 4: you all two articles. I think one is the New
- 4:34Speaker 4: York Times. They'll give you a perspective of where we at.
- 4:38Speaker 4: Not that I always believe what's in the New York Times,
- 4:40Speaker 4: but this one is actually accurate.
- 4:42Speaker 1: And then the second one was.
- 4:44Speaker 4: A Forbes article, which is interesting to show you, amongst
- 4:48Speaker 4: all the disaster, how much natural resources that we have.
- 4:53Speaker 1: So these are some of the things that we do have.
- 4:56Speaker 4: And again Haiti high elevated land, we do have a
- 5:01Speaker 4: constant you know, traffic of constant drugs moving around. It's
- 5:08Speaker 4: like the babysitting capitol cocaine right now in the Caribbean.
- 5:12Speaker 1: So these are some of the things that we have
- 5:14Speaker 1: to fight.
- 5:16Speaker 5: So, yes, you mentioned the New York Times article, so
- 5:20Speaker 5: I want to reference it because obviously anybody knows that
- 5:23Speaker 5: Ernie Lisias is a financial platform, right, So the history
- 5:27Speaker 5: of Haiti is extremely interesting when it comes to finances, right,
- 5:31Speaker 5: So I want to just kind of go down a timeline.
- 5:33Speaker 5: So seventeen ninety one, Haiti becomes the first country, in
- 5:39Speaker 5: the only country actually in world history to ever successfully
- 5:43Speaker 5: be formed from a slavery volt. Right, they beat the French,
- 5:47Speaker 5: overthrew the French slaves slave re volt and became an
- 5:51Speaker 5: independent nation. Now a lot of people were not aware
- 5:56Speaker 5: that as a result of them gaining independence, they were
- 6:00Speaker 5: forced to pay France reparations. From my understanding, Napoleon they
- 6:04Speaker 5: put the ships at the shore, and they were really
- 6:06Speaker 5: kind of at you know, is one of these situations
- 6:09Speaker 5: where they couldn't really go about not having to strike
- 6:13Speaker 5: that deal. So for their independence, they struck that deal
- 6:16Speaker 5: as far as the reparations, So the reparations lasted for generations,
- 6:22Speaker 5: and they said billions billions of dollars were actually drained
- 6:26Speaker 5: out of the Asian economy and pumped into France, which
- 6:30Speaker 5: actually helped build the Eiffel Tower. This is part of
- 6:33Speaker 5: the New York Times article. And then they actually talk
- 6:37Speaker 5: about Wall Street benefiting from Haiti as well as far
- 6:40Speaker 5: as you had mentioned that the occupation. One of the
- 6:44Speaker 5: companies that they said is actually you know, one of
- 6:47Speaker 5: the drum beats and started as a result of that
- 6:51Speaker 5: became City Group obviously fortune five hundred company, one of
- 6:54Speaker 5: the biggest companies in the world. Right, and then years
- 6:58Speaker 5: later President when the president actually had started a call
- 7:05Speaker 5: for reparations from France and he was ousted as a result.
- 7:11Speaker 5: And then you talk about, like you said, you know,
- 7:13Speaker 5: politicians being murdered and unstable government. So when you see
- 7:21Speaker 5: statistics of like you know, it's it's similar as far
- 7:25Speaker 5: as okay, we talk about the wealth gap in America, right,
- 7:28Speaker 5: and we say, okay, well, black people only own one
- 7:30Speaker 5: percent of the wealth. Well, there's a historical reason why
- 7:33Speaker 5: that's happening. It's not just that people are lazy and
- 7:36Speaker 5: that they're just incompetent. You had the Freeman Bank, you
- 7:39Speaker 5: had redlining, you had Jim Crow. So there's hundreds of
- 7:42Speaker 5: years that have got us to this point. The same
- 7:44Speaker 5: with haities. Look at Haiti. You say, okay, well, Haiti
- 7:46Speaker 5: is the poorest country in this hemisphere and they're very
- 7:51Speaker 5: low on the economic spectrum. Well that's for a reason, right,
- 7:55Speaker 5: you have when you had to pay reparations to one
- 7:58Speaker 5: of the most powerful countries in the world for one
- 8:00Speaker 5: hundred and fifty years and your natural resources was taken
- 8:04Speaker 5: from you and you was occupied. Well, now you can
- 8:07Speaker 5: kind of see why there's such level of instability in
- 8:11Speaker 5: the country. So I wanted to just kind of give
- 8:13Speaker 5: that historical timeline and I'll let you talk about it
- 8:16Speaker 5: as well, Cleft, because I think it's important for people
- 8:18Speaker 5: to understand the history because a lot of times, like
- 8:20Speaker 5: I said, the media just portrays now, but they never
- 8:23Speaker 5: talk about how and why we actually got to this point.
- 8:28Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and again this is why I pointed towards
- 8:32Speaker 4: the New York Times article.
- 8:34Speaker 1: But let's break it down in a nutshell.
- 8:38Speaker 4: This first Black Republic basically shut down Napoleon, which is
- 8:44Speaker 4: the greatest army at the time of the world. Think
- 8:48Speaker 4: of it like Napoleon was its own Roman Empire, if
- 8:52Speaker 4: that makes sense. And in this process I call it
- 8:57Speaker 4: the extortion fee, right, because this guy's powerful, be like, yo,
- 9:00Speaker 4: y'all don't want me.
- 9:01Speaker 1: To come back.
- 9:02Speaker 4: We're gonna keep these boats here, y'all gonna keep paying me,
- 9:07Speaker 4: and something interestedn't happen. Right, So a leader roles. Years later, right,
- 9:15Speaker 4: a leader rises and he goes, Okay, I want France
- 9:20Speaker 4: to start to pay reparation. And in this process, the
- 9:23Speaker 4: leader gets out like, now that ain't gonna happen. What
- 9:28Speaker 4: I want us to do is we got to look
- 9:32Speaker 4: at how do we move forward?
- 9:35Speaker 1: Right? And a lot of people be like, yo.
- 9:38Speaker 4: Man, you're so optimistic, man, Like, how can you stay
- 9:41Speaker 4: like that?
- 9:42Speaker 1: Right?
- 9:42Speaker 4: So for me, I would say one of the things
- 9:46Speaker 4: that keep me optimistic is having a chance to to
- 9:54Speaker 4: fly to South Africa and spending some time with the
- 10:01Speaker 4: late great Nelson Mandel and having those one or ones
- 10:09Speaker 4: with him and you know, picking his brain.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:15Speaker 1: And then one of the things he said was like,
- 10:17Speaker 1: you know, once we stopped the dream stop.
- 10:22Speaker 4: And I feel that in the position that we're in today,
- 10:29Speaker 4: this exchange of information that we're doing right now is
- 10:35Speaker 4: part of where the future of Haiti is going to
- 10:38Speaker 4: head into, right, because to get Haiti out of what
- 10:45Speaker 4: it's in right now, it's no difference than when I.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Was doing the the.
- 10:55Speaker 4: The Tia thing and we was talking about fifty four
- 11:00Speaker 4: percent of black and browns don't have a retirement plan, right,
- 11:04Speaker 4: they don't know where they're gonna land, right. So we
- 11:06Speaker 4: find this these informations subject to what country you in
- 11:11Speaker 4: in different but different actors, but stories are always similar, right,
- 11:17Speaker 4: so as we move forward, the focus has to be
- 11:22Speaker 4: how do we get back to economical freedom?
- 11:27Speaker 1: And what I've learned with Nelson Mandelan's.
- 11:32Speaker 4: As he's speaking, to get back to economical freedom has
- 11:38Speaker 4: to be a unification.
- 11:41Speaker 1: They can't be a unification.
- 11:46Speaker 4: With Black Americans and Haitians, which I don't even use
- 11:53Speaker 4: the words. I just call all of us Africans FYI,
- 11:56Speaker 4: But I use these words to tell you they can't
- 11:58Speaker 4: be a connection.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Hunt. There's a real connection with.
- 12:01Speaker 4: Africa, right because Africa is US and it's the next
- 12:07Speaker 4: superpower where everything is going. So now you have these
- 12:11Speaker 4: kids that are trading very fast. As y'all can see,
- 12:13Speaker 4: Nigeria is just up and and up and in and
- 12:19Speaker 4: in the in the stock market if you follow different
- 12:21Speaker 4: things that's going in going on this with my Marcus
- 12:27Speaker 4: Gardie eyes, I've just been looking at it and been saying, Okay,
- 12:30Speaker 4: the way out of this is going to be what.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Is the trade for trade?
- 12:35Speaker 4: What is going to make people feel that Haitians are valuable,
- 12:41Speaker 4: like we valuable, like we bring something to the world stage. Right,
- 12:50Speaker 4: we Black Americans, we're valuable as a whole. We bring
- 12:53Speaker 4: something to the world stage. And I think that that's
- 12:56Speaker 4: going to take that unification of all of us, and
- 12:59Speaker 4: then saying that to get to economical freedom, we have
- 13:04Speaker 4: to be in control of our natural resources. Again, this
- 13:07Speaker 4: is where it lies. Our natural resources will allow us
- 13:13Speaker 4: to be able to create trade for trade and focus
- 13:19Speaker 4: on exporting and also growing in our own country so
- 13:26Speaker 4: that we don't have to rely on rice stock and
- 13:29Speaker 4: the different things.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Right.
- 13:30Speaker 4: Focus with companies that are willing to bring machineries into
- 13:33Speaker 4: these countries. Look at the banking structure, working on that,
- 13:38Speaker 4: you know, revolutionizing that to to how do we move
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