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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles 072326 LIVE - Freedom Work Under Fire: Internal Conflict, Debt Strategy, and the Road Ahead · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Well, Alvin,
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  as would we, we're gonna
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  launch another effort here on the Thursday edition. It is the July
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  23
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  for mister d.
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  Seven twenty seven, Tom d.
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  Roger Sale's your host, Radio Ranch. Some important things to discuss
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  here this morning, I'm sorry to say. Paul, you got something to tell the audience at this stage?
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  Unknown: Yeah. All I've gotta mention is our website is thematrixdocs.com.
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  You will on that website, you will find links to free conference calls so you can join the conversation
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  live.
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  Up in the upper left hand corner underneath Roger's smiling face
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  is the link for the Give, Send, Go campaign,
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  for Radio Ranch support and also the
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  funding.
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  Exposethematrix.com
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  link so you can get all of my contact information and the
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  multiple ways that you can contribute to
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  the radio branch and the relocation
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  and all that.
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  Unknown: That's it. There you go.
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  Alright.
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  Well, good morning. Hope everybody's alright.
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  There's, of course, all kinds of stuff going on in the world. We got a few things to concentrate on here first. We can discuss that later.
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  Saudi and Yemen are are at each other now. We got a new nuclear power in The Middle East. They've US is gonna start giving Saudi Arabia. Dawn made Jews, by the way. It's closet Jews.
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  They're gonna start giving Saudi Arabia magic
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  nuclear dust.
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  So now even though Iran can't have a nuclear device, Trump's gonna give it to Saudi Arabia.
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  Insanity,
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  folks. Insanity
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  revolves around these damn Jews, all of it. All of it. Okay? And they're greater Israel in control of the world. And
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  please, Iran, drop just pop a couple of nukes over there on the son of a bitches, please.
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  K? I'll say it publicly.
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  There's no we can't until until you get it, this Israel shit cleaned up, there ain't no hope for the world. Very much in the future positive.
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  And that leads to our first RIP.
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  K? You know, I understand RIP means rest in peace.
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  So the first, the first RIP we're gonna cover today is for the country. Because
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  yesterday, they passed that damn NDAA
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  thing, and you're gonna get merged with Israel. They're gonna control everything as if they don't already from the inside out and from the top down.
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  Wow.
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  K?
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  Oh, they snuck around. They pulled it off track. They did all their whatever they had to do, and I'm sure it went by with just a a skin of its teeth on a vote or two. Some Republicans
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  switched. Some Democrats switched.
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  They changed they passed it yesterday. Trump, no doubt, will sign it.
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  So, again, if you like, you you know who's boss now, don't you, daddy?
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  Who's your daddy now? The six par appointed star. It's gonna be your daddy now. They're gonna control all of the intelligence,
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  all of the military,
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  all of the Pentagon, and everything else.
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  You don't need a weatherman
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  to know which way the wind blows.
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  Unknown: Just wet your finger
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  and stick it up there.
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  Unknown: Not
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  pretty. Hate to say it. Never thought I'd see something like this.
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  And if I were you and you've got the ability to, I'd get your ass out of the country and find some place to go.
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  K? Because it ain't gonna be pretty up there from now on. It's just gonna get more intense, more intense. They got total control all the way to the top of every department,
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  which evidently they did not have before.
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  They've got that now.
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  So that's first RIP. I
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  don't know any of the specifics on it. I was watching, Rex
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  filling in for Harrison yesterday in the afternoon. One of the segments, they came on, said it passed.
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  K.
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  So we'll find out more as we go forward.
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  Second one's a little more personal for us.
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  I'm a have to do this. I don't like to do it. Never had to do it before, but I'm gonna have to do it today because I will not put up with this bullshit.
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  Okay?
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  And, I will not put up with somebody taking their personal whatever it is and putting it in front and impeding our projects
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  as
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  far as we can go and the ability to go. I won't put up with it. Now I've spent half of my adult life in this and everything else and gone through a whole bunch of sacrifices,
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  and I won't put up with some willy nilly bullshit.
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  And I'm gonna explain the story, and I'm sorry to tell you, I've had to, by necessity, sever my personal relationship with Mirka.
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  And as far as I'm concerned, Mirka and her telegram group are totally banned from this platform
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  and severed from what we do here. And the reason is because Mirko wants to make executive decisions
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  on the future of this program,
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  and I won't stand for it. Okay?
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  So from now on out, Mirko, you're not welcome here. I will have nothing to do with you. And if you wanna go run your damn telegram channel, which I suggested to you, by the way, you said, I wanna help. What can I do? Well, you're not helping. You're hindering. You're running this damn channel over there like an East German Prussian field marshal.
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  I feel like I'm taking people out of the federal feudal system and throwing them over under Mirka's telegram feudal system.
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  Well, it's over. K? No more.
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  For about four years, only phone calls and emails I've gotten are because of Mirka, and somehow she's treating somebody in this telegram channel that she insists on running like a concentration camp. No. You can't do this. No. You can't post that. No. You can't have those files. Uh-uh, Mirka. I didn't suggest that to you for you to run it like that. And if I'd known out front that you were gonna run it like that, I'd never
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  had any involvement with you. Okay? So it ain't your telegram channel. You got 500 plus people over there, and every one of them you got through me. And when I send people over there, there's a legal foundation called a fiduciary
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  relationship.
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  I send them over there for you to take care of them, instruct them, and feed them correct information.
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  You're not doing that.
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  You're running it like a damn concentration
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  camp.
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  I Merca
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  is banned from this program. I so worse, I'm severing any any kind of attachment
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  that or or recommendation that I gave for her telegram program because I thought you'd I'd send you over there and you'd get taken care of, and you're getting run like a like sergeant Schultz at the damn concentration camp. I won't have it. I will not have Merca
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  standing in the way personally because of some petty,
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  emotional,
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  self centered, selfish crap
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  to stand in the way of this pro this platform and what we're doing and what we're trying to accomplish. I won't put up with it, Mirka. You've taken your personal shit,
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  and you've placed it in front of the trajectory
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  of this program. And I promise you, if you do that, I'm gonna run over your ass.
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  But I won't stand for it. Not one damn minute. K?
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  Mirka comes on here and said, well, well, I well, how can I help? Okay. Mirka's a good student. She knows the information. She sets up a telegram channel. I don't know if it's something in her personality.
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  If she's got power for the first time in her life, if she I think in in psychology,
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  when I was in school, they would call Mirka a smother mother.
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  A smother mother. It's somebody that smothers her child,
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  smothers them to death from experiencing anything or anything else, and that's what I gather is going on here. Now I asked, finally, after trying to get her five times over the last couple of weeks,
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  we connected yesterday.
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  And I said, listen, Mirka. The one thing I wanna talk to you about is I want I I can call in and leave a message, and you can put it on your channel, or you can play something on your channel. But they do not know over there that Paul is moving and that we've got a crux to get over here to get him to Oklahoma. And Mirka chose chooses not to inform her 500 plus students that I sent her
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  about this
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  because she's got some kind of a female crap hang up about Paul.
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  Take your emotional
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  bullshit
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  and take it elsewhere. It's not welcome here.
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  K?
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  And I sent you those people. I sent them with a fiduciary understanding
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  that you'd take care of them and get them important information.
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  This is the most important thing. I've never asked y'all for money. I asked for contributions for Paul. Marcus said, oh, a couple of people called me, and I told them that. Hey. Listen, ladies.
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  I'd sent all those people over there to you.
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  They are not yours. They are mine.
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  And you hold this information back from them. I guarantee you there's some people over there that are grateful for this information because I get questions all the time. Well, how can I help? How can I help? I try and shut them off. I don't want your money.
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  Mirka, you committed the unforgivable sin in my eyes yesterday.
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  You took your personal
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  bullshit,
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  emotional
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  crap,
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  and put it in front of this project. I won't have it. You're not welcome here.
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  If anybody is a member of her group that I sent over there and you've been mistreated by this lady or you haven't been informed of something on this, like this contribution
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  that we need to get Paul to Oklahoma,
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  if you haven't been informed of that, and I if I were you, I'd unsubscribe from her channel and let her know exactly why.
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  Okay?
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  Unknown: Well,
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  Raj
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  Unknown: won't put up with it. Do you understand?
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  I got that. And And some of you that are that are out here and integral in this program, if you get that kind of attitude, you're gone too.
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  Unknown: Right. I'm
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  not justifying how how Mirka runs her Telegram channel. I mean, it is a Telegram channel. She is the one that that has the sweat equity in the channel. That's right. That's exactly right. She's the one that has the ultimate responsibility
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  of the information that is posted there.
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  That's right. The only problem that I have with the channel is
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  from the very beginning, we have been very, very, very forthcoming
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  in that this information
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  needs to be free and freely accessible
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  to anyone that needs it.
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  And
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  if you go to her Telegram channel,
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  it is so locked down
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  that anybody That's ridiculous. Puts something in the thread,
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  they can't download it. They cannot take a screen capture of it. She has it locked down to the point where the only files and information you can get is the stuff that is specifically in a download folder.
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  And that was not
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  that was
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  Unknown: issue. No. That's my not my idea when she said how you can help. I don't consider that helping, Mirka. I consider that hindering, and I won't put up with it anymore. I'm not gonna get any more emails. I'm not gonna get any more calls on the air for Robin in Colorado going, what's all these questions I'm getting asked here?
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  No. No more. No more. If that's the way you see your control and your power, you go off and start your own damn platform because you're not associated with this anymore. When you try and step in front of the progress of our project here, you're done. Period.
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  Unknown: I look at it as
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  as a single point of failure,
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  and we've already got too many single points of failure. I mean, the show the show happens, and the show is what it is because of what I do and because of the systems that I've put in place. Well, there is a lot. I mean, I've looked at Mirka's Telegram channel and there's a lot of good information there,
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  but
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  if Telegram decided
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  to pull the plug,
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  to press the delete button on national status freedom
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  on Telegram,
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  all of that information would go away and there is absolutely no way that that information would be
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  stored
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  and
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  retained for prosperity,
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  for posting somewhere else or recreating
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  another channel.
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  There is no backup
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  of it,
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  and I look at that as a weakness.
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  Unknown: Okay. Well, I I if somebody stands in front of the this project and something as important as getting the backbone, the guts, and the maestro moved to Oklahoma in the time frame, and you're gonna stand in front of that and not alert 500 plus of my students because of your little selfish, self centered bullshit, no more. I want nothing to do with you. You have nothing to contribute here. You go start your own deal since you like to make all the executive decisions. Okay? Done. Done. No
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  Unknown: more. Alright. I think
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  that if if I may,
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  I think we've we've covered this. We we've explained
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  We've explained everything that's going on and
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  now would be a really, really good time to move forward.
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  Christian
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  had a question before the program and
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  as a result of his court
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  activity yesterday,
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  he's
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  looking at the possibility of appealing that decision.
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  Now from what I know about appeals,
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  you can only appeal
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  those things that were objected to,
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  And it doesn't sound to me like he objected to anything.
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  He did ask the judge to read his affidavit, and the judge didn't. What? For what affidavit?
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  Unknown: Let me ask Christian. Is this an affidavit that you made up on the sequence of events here? Is the affidavit you're talking about your national affidavit?
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  You keep saying he wouldn't read it. Which affidavit was it, Christian?
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  Unknown: Okay. It's an affidavit of, like, Larry had said, just a timeline of me putting in an offer
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  from the very first first offer. And,
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  you know, it's it's all about that, about they they never they I never offered
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  a done an alternative
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  offer to me. They just never never answered me on it. He don't have to, Christian.
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  He's in the court. That's what the judge said.
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  That's what the judge said. I couldn't believe it. All the time, I thought they had to answer. That was for the reason for the continuance of a settlement.
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  You know?
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  Oh, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to you know?
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  Unknown: Christians, you're in over your head, buddy. I'm sorry to tell you.
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  Unknown: Okay. Yes,
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  Unknown: Larry.
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  Unknown: Yeah. After you left the show yesterday, we had a discussion for about an hour about Christian's situation,
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  and I told him
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  to just don't do anything.
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  There's a new contract on the table.
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  It's called a final judgment,
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  and just let them make the next move. It it might take them a couple of years to come after him for garnishment.
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  And even if they do,
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  his Social Security money is protected for for up to up to sixty days.
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  The bank can't they have to follow federal law. They cannot garnish
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  Social Security wages for up to sixty days. Anything that's left in there after sixty days can be seized.
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  However,
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  once he proves that that money also is from Social Security, like, he has any leftover money, which he admitted yesterday that he does not, even that money must be returned to him.
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  All Social Security wages are protected under federal law from wage garnishment or,
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  from income garnishment
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  by a junk debt collector.
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  And, so he has no
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  and here's another thing.
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  He can't appeal the case because he admitted to the judge that the debt is his.
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  All the appellate court is gonna do is they're gonna they're gonna deny the appeal, and they're gonna send it back, confirm they're they're gonna confirm
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  the the ruling at the trial court.
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  Unknown: Thank you. Thank you. You you know what? That's wonderful. That's that's wisdom right there.
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  And y'all have you know, yesterday, I was I was flustered, man. I was I was tore up.
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  And
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  and it was my mistakes,
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  but, you know, I
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  Unknown: wasn't gonna let it die. I was gonna try to you know? But but thank you. That's man, I'm gonna stop right there. You know what I mean? I I appreciate y'all. Well, the only thing I see they can do, if you've got this other piece of property your son lives on and it's exempt from your homestead, which it may or may not be, I just don't know. Okay? If that's the case, the only thing they can do is come put a lien on it. I they can't seize it. They're not gonna seize it for $2,000
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  for god's sakes. Your son's living on it. There's a dwelling on it. So the only thing they can do is put a lien on it, and that just means that whenever that property gets sold,
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  that amount plus interest and stuff will have to be serviced.
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  Okay? They can't see stuff
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  like that to my knowledge, Christian.
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  So you're you're getting yourself worked up a lot, and I understand the anxiety level,
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  and the choices are pretty clear cut, really.
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  Unknown: Well well, thank you. I mean, hey.
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  I'm
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  am smart enough to receive what y'all just I mean, y'all y'all giving me wisdom right there. And, Larry, you know, yesterday
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  yesterday, we had that talk. I don't wanna I don't wanna mess with y'all's call today, but
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  Wow. This
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  I appreciate
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  what y'all just told me, and and that's what I'm gonna do. Like Larry said, just don't do anything.
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  Unknown: We'll wait and see
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  what their move is. You don't know how they're gonna volley back. You can't pay them. You're not gonna pay them. So why don't you just wait and see what they do next?
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  Let's still send them a 100 gonna have to get whatever it is. They gotta give you notice.
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  They gotta go through all this due process.
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  They're not just gonna come grab stuff.
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  Unknown: Yeah. That's that's what I that's the main thing, yeah, that you just told me. They're not gonna come and grab stuff.
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  You know, I could see them stealing my son's car or truck.
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  I don't have one. So
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  Unknown: It's
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  in your son's debt.
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  It's yours.
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  Unknown: Christian? They got you scared, Christian.
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  Unknown: Okay. Christian, here's here's what you do. Here's what you do.
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  You offered a $100 a month.
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  They didn't accept.
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  So rather than not give them anything, send them $30 a month.
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  That is 10%
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  over 10%
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  of what they
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  got a judgment for
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  because they probably got the judgment for, like, $2,800
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  plus court costs, whatever.
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  So it's roughly $3. 64.
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  Unknown: How much? Plus $1.60
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  what that $28.77
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  plus plus $1.64
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  for court cost.
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  Unknown: Okay. So so we're talking we're talking $3. Alright?
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  Send them 10% of that. You
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  could legally send them only 5% of that as a payment. They have to accept it. Send them 10% of that, $30 a month for god knows how long,
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  and they have to apply it to that debt.
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  Unknown: Done. Okay.
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  Unknown: So Okay. You know, it would take you
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  it would take you many, many, many, many boo koo years to pay it off at that, but at least you are making a payment. It's regular,
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  and you are attempting to service the debt.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  Unknown: At more than the minimum amount the law requires.
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  Unknown: Okay. Thank you, Paul.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Then
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  I hope you can afford $30.
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  Unknown: Yes. Sure can.
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  Unknown: There you go. Yes. And
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  Unknown: and and they have to apply that to the debt. They're they're not gonna I mean, I just got to keep record of that. Right? Yep. Yep. You keep you keep record of those payments
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  Unknown: And periodically ask them for a detailed accounting of the balance owed
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  payments received and balance owed.
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  And they will have to actually
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  they'll actually have to tell you how much interest they're charging and all that happy shit. So
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  Unknown: Bitch, then you need to grab a pen and paper and be writing down what Paul's saying right now.
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  Unknown: I got from the archive. Absolutely. Back the archives and let AI give it to you verbatim also. Hey, Murr.
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  Unknown: Hey.
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  Unknown: Alright. Do we get you taken care of, Christian, on this? Just sit back and wait and let the dust settle. You got you've been worked up over this for weeks,
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  and you had every four or five different people telling you four or five different approaches and things to do and all that does confuse you.
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  So now you go into court and appear and the and the judge ask you and you blurred out the, yeah, it's mine, I guess. And you'd give him you you bend over right there for at the first. So I I don't know. Just don't be anxious about it.
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  Try and get it off your mind. Okay? But
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  Unknown: I'm accepting fault
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  for not you know? I mean, he said he was going to be going to court on it,
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  and
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  there are enough people in this group that we should have known exactly what was going to occur at that court. We
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  should have known that the judge was gonna ask him if this is his death, whatever,
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  and that we should have schooled him better,
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  and that is our failure. We should have schooled him better on how to dispute the debt right there in court.
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  You know? It's
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  not that you don't owe the debt to someone.
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  You don't owe it to them. Listen. We're we're
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  not here we're
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  Unknown: not here to cover the legal landscape. We're here to show people how they've been enslaved and how to get out of it. If possible, we might can help them with some of those things, but that's not why we're here.
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  Right.
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  Just like we're not here for traffic tickets because you can't predict anything. You can't hardly give people,
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  suggestions because you don't know the venue, who you're dealing with, their attitude.
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  Like this, guy that got got arrested the other day.
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  Yeah. Same thing. Just a rookie copy. They wouldn't hire him if if he had over a 100 IQ.
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  I've heard that from the sheriff, people from the sheriff's department of Georgia. That was twenty five years ago. They won't hire you if you got over a 100 IQ. There's been court cases on it.
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  K? On the discrimination, all boys.
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  They came up through a hereditament. Their grandfather was a cop. Their daddy was a cop. They wanted to be a cop. They passed every course in flying colors,
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  everything, and they turned them down and hired some black guy.
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  Unknown: It's a court case. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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  Unknown: I'm just telling you that's what you're dealing with out there, and I can't predict it. And I'm sorry. Drive careful.
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  You wanna avoid it? Drive careful. You don't wanna pay the sin tax? Don't buy the booze. Don't buy the cigarettes.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  The reason I said about Christian writing it down right now is I find that helps me
• 26:27
  to grab something and write in cursive. Yes. It gets that No. It does. System, and you have it right there looking back at you. Yeah. You can get it later. That's fine. Yep. But it's yeah. Anyway It's an imprinting on your mind. That's the same way I if I write something down,
• 26:43
  Unknown: I can all will always remember it.
• 26:46
  Unknown: The K. The best way to learn something is to hear it,
• 26:50
  speak it,
• 26:52
  and write
• 26:53
  it.
• 26:54
  Because you have to have those three inputs of information on your brain to imprint it.
• 27:00
  Unknown: And you notice how they teach in school now from the computer? They only teach them to print, and usually it's just clicking keys. They don't want them to remember.
• 27:10
  Unknown: Right. They don't. Oh, I I
• 27:12
  have notes ever since I've been listening to Roger. I mean, I I try to take them as fast as I can. That's why sometimes I tell you to would you say that over? So, hey.
• 27:22
  I take everything serious.
• 27:25
  I mean, I even take notes in bible study. People say, man, that boy don't know nothing. He's over there taking notes.
• 27:31
  Boy,
• 27:31
  they don't call me boy. Oh, man. You know? So, anyway,
• 27:36
  I I do take notes.
• 27:38
  Unknown: Write it down. Write it down. Write it down. It's everything I can. Christian, I'm not trying to insult Ian. Don't worry about what everybody else does because they've got them all messed up.
• 27:48
  So you keep yourself
• 27:50
  Unknown: clear. That's all we can do. Yeah. And and one of the reasons that it is worthy of discussion, however, setting Christian aside,
• 27:58
  we're going into some pretty hellacious damn financial problems here right ahead of us. It could happen this afternoon after the program, literally.
• 28:08
  And so it's information that some people may be using down the line. Hell, maybe the whole system's gonna collapse. You want Israeli
• 28:17
  six star star of David drones flying down your street, do you?
• 28:22
  Start ramping. And
• 28:24
  they're and they're in a in an agreement, a partnership with us now, and they'll take that technology,
• 28:30
  and they're gonna go sell it and
• 28:33
  bring back our share and give it to us.
• 28:36
  Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm sure you believe that, don't you?
• 28:41
  He's the biggest thieves in history, folks.
• 28:46
  Unknown: And
• 28:48
  Unknown: all these countries that they've been going after,
• 28:50
  like Lebanon, right, the Yeah. Prime minister, whatever, was was with Trump. But they've been beating them down for years, and so that they're now vassals,
• 29:00
  and they agree that it's alright that Israel comes into the Southern Lebanon and bombs the crack out of them. I was just listening to Max Blumenthal,
• 29:09
  Unknown: the latest Max Blumenthal,
• 29:11
  if you wanna get a good insight from he just got back from the funeral over there. He it's the world's biggest funeral they've ever had,
• 29:18
  period.
• 29:19
  And he attended it over there, and all he was going through the trials and tribulations and coming back and season all his stuff and just all the crap they put Blumenthal on, and he his very unhealthy
• 29:32
  view
• 29:33
  and relationship with, what do you call her, plastic surgeon, something, Laura Loomer.
• 29:40
  Evidently,
• 29:41
  miss Loomer might have been had a little tryst with
• 29:46
  mister Trump.
• 29:47
  Is what mister Blumenthal is alluding to there.
• 29:51
  Interesting interview. Encouraging
• 29:54
  encourage you to go listen. It's about thirty minutes long. Good interview. Lot of behind the scenes stuff on on that.
• 30:01
  Judging freedom.
• 30:03
  Unknown: Men. There was a story. She was
• 30:06
  getting
• 30:07
  in bed with this firefighter
• 30:09
  every night and blanking him off, and and he he's trying
• 30:13
  to make it stop.
• 30:15
  Get rid of her. They call her Larry Loomer. I mean, there's some crazy stuff.
• 30:20
  Yeah. Crazy people.
• 30:22
  Unknown: Well, there she comes from a trade crazy ass tribe. Okay? I mean, it fits right in. Regardless,
• 30:30
  Unknown: and, you know, I not Jewish.
• 30:32
  He's actually not Jewish, but she's pretended to be. So it's very weird. Well,
• 30:37
  Unknown: he Blumenthal gives her background, her father, and all this a little bit on that. Go listen to that interview. It's interesting.
• 30:45
  Yeah. She knows you. Their payroll.
• 30:48
  Unknown: The reason to use this guy, Dmitry
• 30:52
  Liskirenz,
• 30:53
  he's a
• 30:55
  he's creepy. He lives in Canada, but he goes all over the place, but he was there for the funeral too.
• 31:00
  And I like his coverage of things. It's pretty pretty good. Yeah.
• 31:04
  Unknown: Yeah. Somebody else is in front of one the folks that was there.
• 31:08
  Of course you do. Max is Jewish too. No. I I know that perfectly well, but he's kinda Jew I like. He's honest, straightforward, and asking objective questions.
• 31:19
  Unknown: You know, I thought I haven't watched this gray zone, so the one I happen to watch was Chris Hedges.
• 31:26
  He hem hawed around about Kenosha,
• 31:28
  Unknown: making it sound like it was blacks that came after Kyle Rittenhouse when it was Jews. That's why they well, that's how they tried to paint it, and then that and then they said no, and they proved that wrong. And then what they do, then they let them say it was whites. So they didn't tell them it was Jews. So when it's alright to be white, when the Jews can hide behind you, I guess, is the rule. Saying I'm just saying Max did this subterfuge.
• 31:51
  You know? The one time I He may have he may have alright. Yeah. Try stop trying to me. He could have bad information. You don't know what the time frame was as it was all exposed. Stop,
• 32:03
  Murr. Stop.
• 32:06
  Jesus almighty.
• 32:09
  Anyway, it's worth listening to. Go over there and listen to it. Judge find Judge's guess that he's now he's back from vacation. He's got a good cadre of guests. I particularly like Max,
• 32:20
  and I like Pepe Escobar. And I like Larry Johnson too. Escobar and Johnson are got a deal going with a new website, and they're partnering up on a bunch of their sources and
• 32:32
  all that kind of stuff. Listen. I feel obligatory
• 32:35
  to say that, and I know this is probably not the show, but I gotta say it. If you're new to,
• 32:40
  the program, this or the what we've had to go over today is unusual.
• 32:44
  It's the only time I've ever had to do anything like that. I hate it. Please don't feel that that you're subject to all that. It's just somebody integrally involved
• 32:52
  was intentionally
• 32:54
  sabotaging
• 32:55
  the project from within, and I won't have it.
• 32:58
  I will not have it. It's just as good as bad as having a damn Jew infiltrate you. Okay? I won't have it. Sorry.
• 33:06
  So that's the reason for that. What we're here is we're here for you, and we're here for your freedom.
• 33:12
  And we want you, if you want to, to be free of this damn mess
• 33:16
  and and
• 33:17
  the federal global
• 33:20
  satanic
• 33:20
  Jew
• 33:21
  feudal
• 33:22
  system
• 33:24
  because that's what it is.
• 33:26
  And, anyway, they forgot we're here for questions, everything else. Try not to be critical, and I I'll put up with a whole lot, but I will not put up with a subordinate
• 33:37
  intentionally
• 33:38
  sabotaging this project
• 33:40
  that I've spent thirty four years of my life on and and and other men and the sacrifices that have been made. I don't put those aside for petty emotional bullshit.
• 33:49
  Sorry. Comment? There's priorities.
• 33:51
  There's priorities here.
• 33:53
  Yes, Julie. Hey. Morning. Yeah. Hi.
• 33:57
  Unknown: I just wanted to say, I know that, Christian I I didn't speak yesterday. I know Christian, you're really stressed out and stuff. And so I understand what everybody is saying on wait for
• 34:07
  the
• 34:07
  debt collector to
• 34:09
  reply to Christian and stuff for his next steps. But I just wanted to say at the end of all of this,
• 34:15
  if it doesn't get go anywhere and it starts to get nasty and Christian just gets really stressed out, I'll
• 34:22
  I will put a GoFundMe together for him and see if we can raise the funds to just get rid of it because I don't want him to be stressed out.
• 34:31
  Unknown: Wow. Y'all are Okay. Y'all are great, but you know what? Y'all don't do that. That Paul needs his stuff to move,
• 34:37
  and I'll be alright.
• 34:39
  I just kinda know what to do now.
• 34:42
  And that was god bless you, girl, for Okay. Saying that. But you know what? I don't want that I don't want anything to go to me.
• 34:50
  Unknown: Alright. What's the world I wanna ask Julie, and I wanna ask Christian,
• 34:54
  and I wanna direct it to the audience. What's the worst thing, the absolute worst thing that can happen here?
• 35:02
  Unknown: Let me ask you a question real quick, Christian.
• 35:06
  Unknown: Okay.
• 35:07
  Unknown: Do you have a do you this is a debt collector.
• 35:11
  Do you have a contract with them?
• 35:15
  No.
• 35:16
  Ask them if they have a contract signed by you and them. If they don't That's our You don't owe me. Hey. We have a contract.
• 35:22
  Unknown: No. We we did court. We get we already did court yesterday. He didn't answer with all this, and he didn't ask those questions. So that's already done. The judge is gonna write a judgment. We haven't seen that yet.
• 35:35
  Unknown: Well, see, there's a difference between debt and alleged debt, and that's what I'm getting to. I used to do this stuff twenty years ago. And, Krishna, all I got to do is they just they got you all frustrated, and you need to calm down a little bit and see what they're getting ready to do. They can't touch you right now. Is this debt over six months old?
• 35:54
  Oh, yes.
• 35:55
  Yes. It's yeah. It's not Let me explain to everybody else who are listening. In six months, it's already written off because there's an insurance policy written on every single account. It's written off. And then three months after that, it's it's charged off. So you don't basically owe this debt. But when you went in there, the judge tricked you into believing it. It's your debt. Well, it can't be your debt, but that's regular debt, not alleged debt, which is what they're dealing with.
• 36:18
  Two different worlds.
• 36:20
  Okay.
• 36:22
  And and you'd let this keep going on and on. What you do wanna do is go to the statute of limitations
• 36:27
  and find out what state you're in and how long it lasts and just wait them out.
• 36:31
  They'll sit there and jerk you around trying to take you to court, but you don't have to go.
• 36:35
  I wish I could I wish I could spend some time with you. It's it's real it's simple to understand, but all this debt,
• 36:41
  it it is alleged debt. It's it's all been written off by the banks. They're going crazy because people are doing it.
• 36:46
  But then nobody knows that that the insurance policy on each one of them are being paid off, and they they get what it gets what it wants. And then it turned around and sold to to the debt collectors, the law firms, single lawyers, and also debt collectors. And they they they say that they represent the bank the bank or whoever the loan is and they're a bunch of damn liars.
• 37:04
  And so what they do, they get you into a contract,
• 37:07
  and then you start making payments to them. You think it's gonna go to the bank. No. It's going back in their pocket. The biggest scam going in the world.
• 37:15
  I just wanna make sure that I if I did start making payments that they take the payments,
• 37:20
  that they that they don't try to add on to it. You know, like these burial things, you get in the insurance, you miss one payment,
• 37:27
  and then and the next thing you know, you lost your insurance
• 37:31
  to bury you. Whatever whatever you write. The first time you send them one pay one payment, it's a contract.
• 37:39
  Okay.
• 37:40
  Don't do it. Ask them, where's the contract between you and them?
• 37:44
  Okay. And if they don't and they can't come up with one because they're a bunch of damn liars because you never signed one. So,
• 37:49
  you know, this is a contract. That's a that's a that's a contractual courtroom,
• 37:52
  and and they have to honor that.
• 37:54
  Now they don't have to do anything they want to. They do it whatever they want to. But I'm saying, without a contract,
• 37:59
  there's no proof that there's a there's a there's an agreement between you and them. This these are these are scamsters,
• 38:06
  and they're just they're just fooling you. If I can give you about ten minutes with you, I'll tell you exactly what to expect.
• 38:14
  Why don't we I don't yeah. Go ahead. Evolutionary.
• 38:17
  Okay?
• 38:18
  Okay. The first thing you want is is the first thing you want is to get you to admit that you and then to make that first payment make that agreement, and that's a new contract right there. That's what you wanna stay away from. Answer phone calls, answer letters of inquiry. This. He was asked directly in court by the judge. He admitted
• 38:36
  Unknown: and didn't decline passing or going down these other paths, and now the judge is gonna write a judgment. Why? That's where we are with this.
• 38:45
  Unknown: Well, you just have to ask the judge, well, which we're referring to? The the the original the original debt or or or the alleged debt because of two different worlds. The original debt's been paid off. It's already it's already gone, but they won't tell you that really. Yeah.
• 38:59
  You're right. And I know and that's where I screwed up. So they they got they got me You didn't you didn't screw up. You just got you got hooed winked into saying something you shouldn't have said. But you you admitted the fact that it's your old debt. Okay. What's your old debt? But we're dealing with alleged debt, the new debt. That's what they that's what the debt collectors are dealing with.
• 39:16
  It's not old debt. It's old debt is not Barrianga.
• 39:20
  And you simply told a judge, I misunderstood.
• 39:22
  I thought you're referring to this alleged debt. This is alleged
• 39:28
  Unknown: Roger?
• 39:30
  Yes, Larry.
• 39:32
  Unknown: Okay. I totally disagree with that person's perspective on all this. Okay?
• 39:38
  He made that Christian made a verbal contract
• 39:41
  in open court when he said the debt was his. That is a verbal contract.
• 39:46
  The final judgment is a written contract. There is a new contract that exists today that did not exist yesterday.
• 39:54
  You
• 39:55
  can't get away from that. And then second thing is
• 39:57
  the debt
• 39:59
  is all is still there.
• 40:01
  Okay? You can't say it just went away because you promised
• 40:05
  to pay
• 40:06
  that
• 40:07
  so called debt when you signed the application,
• 40:10
  when you signed all the paperwork to have a credit extended to you.
• 40:14
  You also signed that you will pay back
• 40:18
  the extended credit in the form of payments and interest.
• 40:22
  And so you can't just go in court and say, well, I'm the creditor, judge, and this is all a scam.
• 40:27
  And they the bank didn't loan me any money.
• 40:30
  They're gonna think that you are crazy,
• 40:33
  and then and then you're just gonna get a judgment.
• 40:36
  Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is when debt gets written off,
• 40:41
  they're not they're not getting the full amount for that debt with the IRS. They're only getting a little bit.
• 40:47
  And so
• 40:49
  that
• 40:52
  that is not really a a valid argument that that whole debt has been written off.
• 40:59
  So
• 41:00
  I I just totally disagree with that perspective.
• 41:03
  Unknown: Well, you can have your disagreement all you want to, but that's way it works.
• 41:11
  Okay.
• 41:16
  I don't wanna I don't wanna take up y'all's time. You know, we can,
• 41:20
  Unknown: imagine Well, it's a class on debt. Christian, you've given us an opportunity to have a classroom on debt and debt collection.
• 41:27
  So and that's coming a lot. More people are gonna be in this situation real quick.
• 41:34
  Unknown: There are reasons Coach, not advisors out there. Well, the well, United States are advising people just to walk away from your damn debt because people are using credit cards and other debt to try to survive off of. And this economy is being done deliberately.
• 41:47
  That's right. The Kosher Rat Pack have been hired to destroy this country, and that's exactly what they're doing. You're a member of the Kosher Rat Pack and the membership of Kosher rat pack are all all Zionists, all Jews have not seldom. Just all. And and and those who've been bought off and those who support Israel, that's a kosher rat pack. There there's it's a it's a Jewish supremacy takeover in The United States. It's exactly what's happening.
• 42:10
  Unknown: Would you like to host the show for a few weeks?
• 42:20
  Okay.
• 42:22
  Well, I certainly can't disagree with the word of that. That's what it is. It's their religion.
• 42:27
  Their religion is is money. They they they worship god as money so that they can be a substitute for god and control everything with all their money and influence underneath them. That's what's going on. It's that damn simple.
• 42:40
  Unknown: Roger, they don't they don't have a god, and and they they can't be involved in leadership. They keep a or gatekeeper positions because of their their their
• 42:49
  belief and their behaviors. That's what she does. Don't let them in No. You don't understand.
• 42:54
  Positions or positions of power. They must never be out in there. They could be merchants.
• 42:59
  Unknown: Uh-huh. That came from a Jew, man, in New York. He said we're different from them. Their god is money straight from his mouth.
• 43:09
  Here's what pastor Peters used to say. K?
• 43:12
  Pastor Peters used to say,
• 43:15
  they're different from us in this respect,
• 43:18
  particularly,
• 43:19
  is we can contact our god directly.
• 43:22
  They can't. They
• 43:24
  have to contact their god through idols
• 43:27
  like
• 43:28
  abortion,
• 43:29
  feminism,
• 43:31
  this,
• 43:33
  etcetera, and it all becomes available to them, and they can pro proceed all those agendas with one thing because they got the magic money machine and can grease the skids with it. Their god is money.
• 43:46
  He allows them to achieve what they think
• 43:50
  they are now gods.
• 43:53
  Okay? So that statement came from a Jew, man.
• 43:57
  The and and,
• 43:59
  you think about that
• 44:01
  political correctness.
• 44:02
  Right? When they when you attack their idols,
• 44:05
  don't they go ape shit?
• 44:08
  Usually, they're very quiet right now, probably till that thing passed yesterday.
• 44:13
  There ain't no telling what we're gonna hear from now on.
• 44:16
  But but as folks, it's done. Put a fork in it. As of yesterday
• 44:20
  and a marriage, quote, unquote, a marriage,
• 44:23
  They have the audacity to identify it as.
• 44:27
  Walking with that bloody hand in mind, no thank you.
• 44:32
  No thank you.
• 44:33
  Oh, you you write the country off.
• 44:36
  It's irretrievable.
• 44:37
  If you thought there's a political solution up to now,
• 44:41
  forget it. There ain't.
• 44:45
  Unknown: I thought I was seduced yesterday, but they sure seduced
• 44:49
  our our government, didn't they?
• 44:51
  Unknown: No. Yeah. They so well, they they they get them in blackmail,
• 44:54
  bribery,
• 44:55
  but, you know, with with young women, the whatever.
• 44:59
  You know, the senator from New Jersey where they sewed gold bars in the coat they gave him? Whatever.
• 45:06
  It's graft and greed and control of his decisions
• 45:10
  by some type of leveraged influence.
• 45:13
  And there's just very few damn people
• 45:16
  that are not susceptible
• 45:17
  to it in one way or the other.
• 45:21
  But here, all that there's there's some light at the end of the tunnel,
• 45:26
  maybe.
• 45:27
  In this last election round,
• 45:30
  there were 29 seats
• 45:32
  that were non APAC seats that got that one.
• 45:38
  So the question on the campaign trail now is do you take APAC money in any way, shape, or form? Because now APAC, of course, is going back and hiding it and doing all the crap they always do.
• 45:51
  Okay?
• 45:52
  So, anyway but the bad part is they got intelligence in the military in the country and have that key people at the highest levels
• 46:01
  that only report
• 46:03
  that don't even report to congress.
• 46:05
  There's some stipulation.
• 46:08
  Folks, it's done.
• 46:10
  Don't move to Argentina
• 46:12
  and and get the hell out of The US.
• 46:15
  They're they're they're
• 46:17
  putting Israel all over the freaking globe.
• 46:27
  Boy, it's a good show. I got so much wonderful
• 46:29
  freaking news to talk about today.
• 46:35
  Unknown: That we if we have ears, we will hear what you just just said.
• 46:39
  Unknown: Well, we have if have those are facts. We will speak. Yeah.
• 46:42
  Well,
• 46:43
  they're infiltrating The US too. They're putting groups of them out in the West Coast, and I think down in Guatemala,
• 46:51
  they already had a bunch of these child molesters
• 46:53
  out in the out in the forests of Guatemala,
• 46:57
  have had down there for a couple of years, all these, like, orthodox weirdos.
• 47:02
  Folks, I mean, Jesus almighty, come out of her and try and stay away from them.
• 47:10
  Unknown: Amen, brother.
• 47:13
  Unknown: Just stay away from
• 47:18
  What does what does Brent say? The Bible says, treat them like tax collectors.
• 47:22
  If you stay away from them.
• 47:25
  We try and separate ourselves from a mirror as much as possible even though there are layers and layers and layers of bullshit forms and paperwork.
• 47:33
  The answers are there. You it's just as, as, Berkeley.
• 47:37
  It was senator Berkeley
• 47:40
  in the forties that was the back then, the senate had a ways and means committee, and he was the chairman of the ways and means committee. John and Glenn found this in their tax research.
• 47:50
  And
• 47:52
  he was so popular,
• 47:54
  he decided to leave the senate at one point, and and they
• 47:58
  wrote him a letter out of the senate with every sitting senator who signed it. Please come back. K?
• 48:04
  And and so very likable. They're gonna run him for VP, I think, along right there at Truman's death or whatever.
• 48:14
  And he came out with this statement. He said every year, at Ways and Means, we get the boys from treasury over here in the tax division. And
• 48:24
  every year,
• 48:26
  we tell them we need to simplify the tax code and shorten it and this, that, and the other. And
• 48:32
  every year,
• 48:34
  they come back from treasury
• 48:36
  with a bunch of gobbledygook
• 48:38
  that Solomon and all of his freaking wise men
• 48:42
  can't interpret.
• 48:44
  That's the tax code, isn't it? Larry, that's pretty much the tax code, isn't it? You need Solomon and his wise men and a damn
• 48:52
  AI to interpret some of the crap. That's why we're here on jurisdiction.
• 48:56
  I despise that stuff.
• 48:58
  This, I I crave.
• 49:00
  This, you can trace.
• 49:03
  This, you can get concrete answers for, we found.
• 49:08
  We got big mojo here, folks. It's just
• 49:11
  the situation at this time.
• 49:16
  The situation at this time is
• 49:19
  such
• 49:20
  that we cannot get people's attention. Now maybe that's gonna change.
• 49:24
  May you know, the good lord can change the herd and then boom. Some incident can happen and bam. They're shocked into reality. Larry, we don't know. You know, Mel Fisher, today's the day.
• 49:35
  Okay? And I'll continue to say that because as long as I can take a breath, I'll be here at this microphone with you in the mornings.
• 49:43
  K?
• 49:45
  And that's why I got so damn pissed off at this yesterday.
• 49:49
  Right? Here we are trying to do all this, and I will not allow you to put your petty, emotional,
• 49:55
  trivial
• 49:56
  bullshit
• 49:57
  in front of this project of over a hundred years in three men's lives. I won't do it. It could affect the whole world. Who do you think you are?
• 50:07
  Excuse me.
• 50:09
  Who do you think you are? Well, you're not somebody's gonna deal with me. You can go start your own crap or whatever. K?
• 50:16
  I won't put up with that, and I won't for a second.
• 50:19
  Alright? So, anyway, got that out of the way. Sorry to do it.
• 50:23
  We'll find some replacement.
• 50:25
  I promote Dave and Case, a wonderful computerized website
• 50:30
  down there, nationalstatus.infoor.com.
• 50:33
  They got AI hooked up to it. It'll generate documents for it. Maybe there's some way to incorporate
• 50:40
  some sort of a chat over there. We'll talk to Dave and Kay about it. They're probably listening,
• 50:45
  but we'll make up for this.
• 50:47
  And I I've I'm sorry that I ever sent any of you over there to Mirka. I thought you'd be taken care of properly and adequately.
• 50:55
  You were not,
• 50:56
  and I and I become aware of that now more so than ever and made an executive decision as I'm the executive,
• 51:05
  and I and I can't work with people like that. I won't do it.
• 51:09
  Okay?
• 51:10
  So, anyway, I I please let me get it off my chest, and I'm sorry to bring it up again. I just wanted to try and let you know the seer what I consider to be the seriousness
• 51:21
  of this incident.
• 51:23
  People don't think it's serious. You don't think I'm serious about this? I sacrificed
• 51:28
  half my damn adult life. The most productive years of my life have been spent here. You're not gonna get in front of it and screw it up and sabotage it from within. You may think you're gonna you ain't gonna you ain't gonna be doing it very long. Yes, Larry.
• 51:45
  Unknown: Yeah. I wanna answer that gentleman that was calling in saying, no. This is how it really works.
• 51:52
  Okay. I've been involved with debt collection
• 51:55
  lawsuits
• 51:56
  both as the defendant and the plaintiff for seven years.
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  I got two federal
• 52:02
  settlement deals
• 52:06
  on my own. I had a mentor that was helping me,
• 52:10
  but I've always represented myself in court.
• 52:13
  And what he is describing is not how it works. I've listened to
• 52:19
  virtually every
• 52:21
  YouTube video by
• 52:23
  Alabama consumer protection attorney,
• 52:26
  John Watts,
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  and this is exactly how he explains
• 52:31
  how,
• 52:33
  a debt gets written off. So,
• 52:37
  you know, when you stop paying on a credit card debt, for example,
• 52:42
  the the credit reporting agencies
• 52:45
  are required under federal law
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  to
• 52:49
  start putting these
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  these
• 52:52
  late payment dates
• 52:54
  or notations on the credit report, like thirty days, sixty days,
• 52:58
  and it has to flow all the way up to a hundred and eighty days. And then after that, you'll see charge off c slash o on your credit report, and that thing will just carry over
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  every month
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  every month until either that
• 53:13
  debt is paid or the federal statute of reg statute
• 53:18
  of limitations kick in, which is seven years. They're only
• 53:22
  the the credit reporting agencies are only allowed to report
• 53:26
  that has to be accurate too under the Fair Credit Reporting Act. Everything they report,
• 53:31
  they are provided
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  with that information from the furnisher,
• 53:36
  which happens to be whoever you owe the debt to,
• 53:39
  and it has to be accurate.
• 53:41
  And after seven years, they are required under federal law to drop that
• 53:47
  whole trade line off of your credit report.
• 53:50
  So, anyway, this comes from, John Watts.
• 53:54
  He says a write off or charge off
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  does not mean a debt is forgiven
• 53:59
  or erased. And I've I've I've
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  heard of all of that nonsense from the patriot community. It's been going around for decades.
• 54:07
  And so
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  he even is aware he has a video where he even goes over all of that nonsense,
• 54:13
  and it just doesn't work in court. That's not the legal reality of what happens
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  in the background behind these credit card debts or car loans or whatever.
• 54:23
  So, anyway, a write off or a charge off does not mean a debt is forgiven or erased.
• 54:28
  It is merely an internal accounting function required by federal banking regulations.
• 54:33
  A charge off is an accounting function, and it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not you owe the debt.
• 54:40
  When you stop paying a credit card, federal regulations require banks to move the account from an asset
• 54:47
  or accounts receivable to a loss,
• 54:50
  which is called bad debt,
• 54:52
  after approximately a hundred and eighty days of delinquency.
• 54:56
  This allows the bank to maintain accurate financial health metrics
• 55:00
  and potentially
• 55:01
  claim a debt a tax deduction.
• 55:04
  However, your signed contract this is what I kept saying for several days. I said it to Gregory yesterday.
• 55:11
  Your signed contract with the bank remains legally binding.
• 55:15
  The debt still exists. You still legally owe it, and the bank or any entity that purchased the purchases the account retains the full legal right to collect it.
• 55:28
  Unknown: Do you have a contract with that new debt collector?
• 55:32
  Unknown: Oh my god.
• 55:34
  Unknown: If you don't, then you don't owe him anything, period.
• 55:38
  Oh my god. So you go keep doing it your way because they're also not telling you about the insurance policy on every single account too. They won't tell you that.
• 55:47
  So you keep doing it your way. There's
• 55:51
  Unknown: a bunch of different ways to approach this situation. You can go buy books on it. You can go to YouTube, as Larry said.
• 55:58
  I'm sure you can go to No Lo Press and find a book on how to do your own bankruptcy and avoid a lot of it if your debt's severe enough.
• 56:06
  It depends on all your individual circumstances.
• 56:10
  This thing with Christian is like a a drop of piss in the bucket.
• 56:15
  $2,000
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  to these people? Come on, man. Larry, they can sell they could have bought this debt from a from another debt collector, not a financial institution. Right?
• 56:26
  Unknown: Exactly.
• 56:28
  And that's what they do. They called it and try and collect it. If it's only $2,000,
• 56:34
  I would go ahead just pay it off and get rid of it. That's the end of it.
• 56:39
  You're going through way too much, you're going too much emotional damage.
• 56:43
  I'm you. I'm not you. I'm afford it.
• 56:47
  Unknown: He's talking
• 56:49
  Unknown: about it. He can afford a payment program.
• 56:53
  I mean, I'm sorry. $50 a month, whatever they'll accept.
• 56:56
  So there's a there's a bunch of different ways. I kinda agree with you. It's like traffic ticket. I'm not gonna go fight it. Now what is it? Bam. Let's pay it. Yeah. Right. Get it out. K?
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  So your your life
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  has a
• 57:11
  position in this equation,
• 57:13
  and you can see and hear what this situation's done to Christian's life, can't you? Or am I I mean, I know I'm my my eyesight's is bad, but I think I can see that all the way from Ecuador.
• 57:26
  Unknown: Very good.
• 57:27
  Unknown: Okay.
• 57:28
  So, Christian, it's affected your life, wouldn't you say?
• 57:36
  Oh, Christian.
• 57:39
  What did Christian leave?
• 57:44
  Christian, are you there or not? Hell, we're dropping everybody
• 57:48
  Unknown: No.
• 57:49
  You're damn scared me off. I I didn't I was muted, and I didn't know.
• 57:53
  Unknown: Okay. Have you has this affected your life, your peace of mind?
• 57:58
  Unknown: Immensely, but y'all have y'all have helped me so much to kick me off
• 58:03
  Unknown: screen. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. I got another question.
• 58:05
  How much worth has it affected your life?
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  2,800,
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  3,500,
• 58:12
  50,000?
• 58:13
  How much worth has this affected and disjointed your life?
• 58:17
  $202,200
• 58:19
  dollars, whatever the arrangement you can make with those folks? Well, then I'm gonna ask you. Is it worth all the shit you've been through?
• 58:29
  Unknown: It's worth finding the wisdom from y'all.
• 58:34
  I mean, you know See, this is Y'all don't charge anything young.
• 58:38
  Unknown: I'm not telling you not to challenge it. I'm asking you is what is it putting you through? Is it worth it?
• 58:46
  Unknown: No. No.
• 58:48
  Unknown: Well, that's you're the only one that can make that decision.
• 58:54
  Unknown: But it's worth it that y'all are all
• 58:59
  Unknown: You're you're try and give you. Yeah.
• 59:02
  Unknown: Y'all are really,
• 59:03
  Unknown: hey. Thank y'all so much. I think I think your judgment.
• 59:08
  Well, yeah, we've been doing it for a few days, so that's alright. We got the top of the hour interruption here for a second. I can talk for a few more seconds.
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  We're gonna go regroup,
• 59:18
  regrather,
• 59:19
  go pee pee potty,
• 59:21
  get a cup of coffee, and readdurn here shortly after the classical music. Ranch with Roger Sails on I'll be back.radio.com.
• 59:31
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  It is thematrixdocs.com
• 59:45
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• 59:48
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  also links to free conference calls so you can join the conversation
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  There's exhibits there,
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• 1:00:01
  Pack a lunch, stay the day. We'll be back to the program in just a minute. Thank you.
• 1:01:12
  And we're back.
• 1:01:14
  Unknown: Alrighty.
• 1:01:15
  Back to the the
• 1:01:17
  radio range second half, the special
• 1:01:20
  RIP
• 1:01:21
  edition.
• 1:01:23
  So I hope you got your palate cleansed over that little break, your mental palate anyway.
• 1:01:30
  We were speaking a lot about this debt collection thing and Chris' particular situation and all these folks that have different perspectives and views and approaches to it.
• 1:01:42
  You know, there's only two ways to control people.
• 1:01:45
  One's through debt and the other's through force.
• 1:01:49
  So it's a powerful, powerful initiator.
• 1:01:52
  This one, thankfully, for Christian, didn't too much from the terms of financial.
• 1:01:57
  It may seem like a lot, but not
• 1:02:00
  much really in the scheme of things these days.
• 1:02:03
  So, anyway, what anybody else if and if you're new, I'm you know, I'm sorry for this unusual show
• 1:02:10
  because the circumstances,
• 1:02:12
  one of the things that if you are new, you probably need to know this anyway.
• 1:02:17
  What we're trying to do is get Paul Beaner, our engineer,
• 1:02:21
  backbone
• 1:02:22
  technician,
• 1:02:24
  cohost, all around good guy,
• 1:02:27
  the radio ranches Ed McMahon,
• 1:02:31
  and get him out of New York.
• 1:02:34
  It's the escape from New York tour.
• 1:02:37
  Third try we've had it getting him moved. The other two have on. What are for whatever reason worked out.
• 1:02:45
  We're trying to get this one to work out,
• 1:02:48
  and we're asking for people if you can. I know things are tight, and a lot of people are really stretched.
• 1:02:54
  They're having to use credit cards at some
• 1:02:56
  20 something percent interest to buy groceries.
• 1:02:59
  K? That's not good.
• 1:03:02
  Unknown: About 35.
• 1:03:05
  Unknown: Oh, whatever.
• 1:03:07
  You know? It's not good.
• 1:03:09
  So,
• 1:03:13
  we're trying to reach out and see there's gonna be more people dealing with this crap. We're in real bad times, and it's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.
• 1:03:23
  Amen to that. I hope you've I hope you're, you've been liking that good little squirrel and put the little nuts in your little jowls and carried them up and put them in the deep crevice of the old tree
• 1:03:35
  so you can retrieve them when it gets to be, damn, my stomach's growling
• 1:03:40
  time.
• 1:03:41
  So, anyway, that's where we are.
• 1:03:43
  If you're new, sorry. Like I was saying of the day, we're here normally to help people get this approved. It's guaranteed.
• 1:03:51
  I offer you quadruple
• 1:03:53
  your money back guaranteed. No questions asked.
• 1:03:56
  Over a hundred years of legal research in three men's lives,
• 1:04:00
  and we found the answer. We've got the key
• 1:04:03
  to the castle
• 1:04:04
  because we found how they pulled all this illusion off.
• 1:04:08
  And as
• 1:04:09
  this is a Darylism one day.
• 1:04:13
  Daryl came on the show, and he said a
• 1:04:16
  Gordian knot has to be untied the way it was tied.
• 1:04:20
  I believe that's what we've done. We've untied the Gordian knot.
• 1:04:24
  Now there's two theories on that. I believe we took the way of, you know, the Alexander the Great. This evidently,
• 1:04:32
  this is totally
• 1:04:33
  historically accurate
• 1:04:35
  from the records, Paul. I went back and studied it a bit when I could read better.
• 1:04:43
  You know the story of this?
• 1:04:46
  Unknown: Mentioned it the great. In a while.
• 1:04:49
  Unknown: Yeah. This involves Alexander the great. He ended up he ended up slicing the knot. Right? So Murr's gonna tell the story for me. I don't have to give you any details. Not necessarily,
• 1:05:00
  Murr.
• 1:05:01
  Not necessarily.
• 1:05:02
  No. There's several theories on it. That's where I was going. K?
• 1:05:06
  The one is, you know what happened? First of all,
• 1:05:10
  there's a town over there in Greece somewhere. They had terrible, corrupt politicians
• 1:05:15
  managing the town. They got so fed up with it, and the town got together and said, the next guy that comes down that road
• 1:05:23
  with a a cart full of apples being drawn by a team of horses is gonna be the mayor.
• 1:05:29
  That is true. You go read it. K? And so here comes a guy with a truckload and a trailer load apples, and he's being drawn by horses.
• 1:05:38
  And he comes in. They make him mayor.
• 1:05:40
  This was the knot
• 1:05:42
  that attached his horses to the cart.
• 1:05:45
  And it became a knot that no one could undo.
• 1:05:49
  And it became quite a deal, and Alexander the Great evidently heard about it and came to the to the village. Now there's
• 1:05:57
  two.
• 1:05:58
  So all that Merck Merck cut all that out for you. She's throwing the punch line down there on me. And, so here's the two options. Do you know the other option, Murr?
• 1:06:11
  Unknown: Besides untying it?
• 1:06:14
  Unknown: Besides hacking it with a sword.
• 1:06:17
  Right. Which to untie it like Daryl said. Right. How? Yeah. Well, you see, there's well, from here's the question.
• 1:06:24
  From which end?
• 1:06:26
  Because evidently,
• 1:06:28
  what Alexander
• 1:06:29
  the Great did was went over and pulled the pin
• 1:06:31
  where it hitched up to the wagon
• 1:06:34
  and undid the knot from the back.
• 1:06:37
  And you see, that's what I think we've done here.
• 1:06:40
  That's why that's important.
• 1:06:42
  We didn't hack at it with a sword. Patriot community's been trying that for decades.
• 1:06:47
  We didn't go along with everybody else and try and untie it in some frustration
• 1:06:51
  pile of frustration from the front. We used our noggin a little bit, and we said, you know, all this shit's based on these dialectics.
• 1:06:59
  Let's go to the back of the knot. Let's pull the little pin here and low and bald,
• 1:07:05
  unravel it and nothing flat. Two shakes of a lamb's tail.
• 1:07:09
  So there you go. There's the story about the Gordian knot. I think that's what we've done. We've untied the Gordian knot from the back,
• 1:07:17
  and they can't do a thing about it. The horses have done run off.
• 1:07:21
  They they got out of the tax bin. The horses got out of the tax bin they were gonna put them in.
• 1:07:30
  All it took was one sentence to one guy on one piece of paper.
• 1:07:36
  All the flailing,
• 1:07:37
  all the stuff we've seen in in our patriot community for
• 1:07:42
  well, for me, thirty five years, it was going on a decade.
• 1:07:45
  Tom d was in it ten years before that. All that time, they've been hacking at the knot, hadn't they?
• 1:07:53
  Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Yeah.
• 1:07:56
  Well Yes, sir. Not the way you do it with these people.
• 1:07:59
  Because the whole thing's set up. This is what I can't understand people haven't thought through because really pretty is simple thinking.
• 1:08:07
  Of course, they don't place Alice in Wonderland in the perspective that we know it is. So what was the original title with Alice in Wonderland? Through the Looking Glass. If you're Through the Looking Glass, you live in a world of opposites, don't you? Well, that's what we live in, a world of opposites.
• 1:08:28
  Everything's
• 1:08:29
  built on it.
• 1:08:31
  You got a question. Look a 180 degrees in the opposite direction. I guarantee you, you'll find the answer there every time. Why? Because their whole thing is built on the opposites.
• 1:08:45
  That's what they're trying to deflect you away from a 180 degrees in the other direction when they capture your subconscious mind
• 1:08:52
  and start attaching their definitions
• 1:08:55
  into keywords,
• 1:08:56
  and then they've got you until somebody in somehow
• 1:09:00
  snaps their fingers and said, you're not under hypnosis anymore,
• 1:09:05
  and you see their m a j I k magic,
• 1:09:08
  then maybe, just maybe, reality will open for you. Some people, it doesn't. Well, the difference, hell, I don't know why except they're not truth seekers.
• 1:09:18
  They have no love of the truth. I don't care about that.
• 1:09:24
  Do you wanna know about how the Rothschilds took over the Bank of England? No. No. I don't wanna know about that. Well, those are the people that don't have a love of the truth.
• 1:09:35
  And so god has sent them a strong delusion.
• 1:09:38
  Whatever it may be in their lives, they they they they they're up to their damn eyeballs in it.
• 1:09:44
  And all you can do, you can't beat them up. You you can't force them. You can't make them learn this stuff. All you can do is pray for them, plant a seed, and walk away. Find somebody that's more receptive.
• 1:09:55
  When you find somebody, try your best to start teaching it to them.
• 1:10:01
  You'll learn it that way much quicker than any other way.
• 1:10:05
  The best way to learn something is to teach it, period.
• 1:10:10
  Unknown: That is so basic. That's the way Jesus did it.
• 1:10:13
  Unknown: Well, you take your bell. Well, yeah, it were that's the way it works.
• 1:10:17
  It's proven. It's tried. I want you to make see, I can't make you
• 1:10:23
  do anything.
• 1:10:25
  I can't make you study. I can't make you wanna learn this. I certainly can't make you wanna understand it if you don't. All that shit. I I I I can't what will happen is we won't have a relationship anymore.
• 1:10:37
  We'll end up in some kind of a day to day where we don't wanna see each other talk anymore,
• 1:10:42
  and then nothing gets accomplished.
• 1:10:44
  Plant a seed, pray for them, go on and find somebody else. That's the only solution. A man of bull a little Christian.
• 1:10:52
  I've tried this every way
• 1:10:55
  you can try it.
• 1:10:57
  In thirty four years, I've tried this approach to get to people every way you can try it. I know what works.
• 1:11:04
  I know what doesn't work,
• 1:11:06
  And you can't make people do shit. It's easier to pull a rope than it is to push a rope. You cannot you can't go to a Chinese restaurant and take one of those Chinese noodles on the napkin and press that thing all around the napkin. You'll have a big blur of carbohydrates
• 1:11:23
  on the tablecloth.
• 1:11:26
  K?
• 1:11:28
  You can't get your votes against the forces of nature.
• 1:11:32
  Yeah. Does that what's the old one? You can't fool mother nature.
• 1:11:37
  Well, hell no. You can't. It's laid down right in front of you. It's easier to pull a rope. So what you do
• 1:11:43
  is you get somebody. You if you can't get them interested,
• 1:11:47
  if they're not interested initially,
• 1:11:50
  you try and do things that can potentially
• 1:11:54
  spark their interest.
• 1:11:56
  K? Well, listen. If you ever have any question about it, come back and ask me. You know, it's it's and
• 1:12:03
  it'd be nice to them, pet them, give them a treat, and send them on down the path.
• 1:12:09
  These things I've learned, folks, and that's why I say that's when we get those people that come to the show, y'all know the ones I'm talking about.
• 1:12:19
  We get the people that come here because, man,
• 1:12:22
  they have it has sparked something in them.
• 1:12:27
  Boris,
• 1:12:28
  our Puerto Rican buddy over there in Virginia, construction guy.
• 1:12:32
  Boy, I don't know how Boris found this, but here's some he's from our culture, but he's from a a fringe of it down there, and he sees freedom, and he that boy wants it, and he grabbed it. He understands it. He's applied it, and he's talking to other folks about it. They're going, well, I can't understand how you're doing that. But
• 1:12:53
  something in Boris
• 1:12:55
  made him open to this.
• 1:12:57
  Something in myrrh. First time myrrh, what woke you up?
• 1:13:03
  You're an old timer around here. What woke you up? Give us a little Murr history
• 1:13:08
  Unknown: here. Well, you know what? When I when I learned about this, I I thought, well, I don't need that. You know and I didn't plan to do it and others have done that too just like a child of God I don't need that
• 1:13:21
  but then
• 1:13:23
  in 2022
• 1:13:26
  when the back there at the old homestead
• 1:13:29
  in New Jersey, they, wanted me to participate in a jury,
• 1:13:34
  and, there was no way I was gonna be doing that. So that's when I
• 1:13:38
  did it that same day, 08/30/2022
• 1:13:41
  and,
• 1:13:42
  sent the affidavit in. Woke up?
• 1:13:46
  No. I was awake before that. I'm just saying I didn't think I needed this.
• 1:13:50
  Right? And I was so glad that it was available for me because I did need it. Uh-huh.
• 1:13:56
  Unknown: Even if I didn't do anything else. When did you wake up? Did you have a suspicion like I had from when you were young? And was it Waco that woke you up, or was 09:11
• 1:14:07
  confirmed
• 1:14:08
  what your suspicions were? Or just give give us a little peek in the closet here.
• 1:14:15
  Unknown: I don't know what to tell you. Yeah. Just different things all through life and time and, you know, you didn't have the Internet back then, of course, and and you see how
• 1:14:27
  adults interact and and you're like, there's something funky going on here.
• 1:14:32
  You know? You just between the honest and the dishonest.
• 1:14:35
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 1:14:36
  And there was information out there, but they kept it really sequestered and and cut off like the spotlight in Liberty Lobby
• 1:14:44
  and the information that was on the WWCR
• 1:14:47
  on the shortwave.
• 1:14:49
  I mean, it's just like you really had to want this information back then and
• 1:14:54
  really adjust your life in different ways to be able to tap into it.
• 1:15:00
  Well, that was me. I had to walk through brick walls to get answers to this.
• 1:15:06
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:15:07
  And things have changed. It it
• 1:15:09
  e. Michael Jones was saying at the end of it, one of his things a week or so ago
• 1:15:14
  said it in Latin that things speed up at the end.
• 1:15:18
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  Yeah. Quickening
• 1:15:20
  at the end. And it's not the end. It's just a end of a time,
• 1:15:25
  and there's going to be a because the world is right at the end of a It's just people think, oh god. The earthquakes and the volcanoes and shit. I'm gonna get boiled in lava. No. Probably not. Okay? So it's a change of an age. We're moving into the age of Aquarius.
• 1:15:43
  And, evidently,
• 1:15:45
  as the earth moves into these different positions,
• 1:15:49
  there are electrical
• 1:15:50
  forces
• 1:15:51
  and things do in that position of those particular alignment
• 1:15:56
  of planets and stars that can have an effect on us.
• 1:16:01
  As we go through historically,
• 1:16:03
  these you know, so that we're going in the age of Aquarius just like from the sixties. I had it in my mind the other night. You remember that? Remember the Oh, yeah. The the Uh-huh. The play and the and the man will blame the stars. You know? It'd be a wonderful by
• 1:16:18
  Unknown: that wonderful love. I'm an Aquarius. So
• 1:16:21
  but there's something else I've learned. You have the magic. Black.
• 1:16:26
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:16:27
  The fifth dimension.
• 1:16:28
  Man, they are fantastic
• 1:16:30
  singers, those guys. K.
• 1:16:32
  Fantastic. Okay, ma'am. Sorry to step on you. I had the the age of Aquarius in my subconscious.
• 1:16:40
  Unknown: Here's something else to noodle on. It the Earth has never been proven to be moving. It is the universe moving around us.
• 1:16:48
  This is the fact. The math is the same either way. Yeah. The math is the same.
• 1:16:54
  But the earth is see, this is how they got people in 2014
• 1:16:58
  when they dropped the yacht with the flat earth.
• 1:17:01
  You know, that the earth is stationary. Well, it is stationary, but it's not flat.
• 1:17:05
  They were bringing back more and more about geocentrism.
• 1:17:09
  Unknown: And that's the fact.
• 1:17:11
  Unknown: Don't bring up flat earth here. I wanna know about the feudal system. I'm like, John, I wanna go back. Not up there. I'm gonna go Hey, Rod. I'm gonna go get 600 drinks. Hey, Roger. Rod. Alright. Two or three people want to say something One
• 1:17:26
  of you, you stepped forward.
• 1:17:29
  Unknown: I think the guy beat me before me.
• 1:17:33
  I'm Christian. Yeah. Was talking about the
• 1:17:36
  Unknown: straight of her moves.
• 1:17:38
  Unknown: Oh, they don't. Straight of her moves. God, it's Waheem.
• 1:17:42
  How
• 1:17:43
  could I not recognize that voice? You're where? You're in middle of the straight of You could you're
• 1:17:49
  in the middle of the straight of the moves?
• 1:17:53
  Oh, okay. That's right. I couldn't. I've I I like I love them.
• 1:17:58
  So you're aware you're in the middle of the Straits Of Hormuz, Wahid?
• 1:18:02
  Unknown: Yeah. I'm in the middle of it right now, but the gas with these gas prices going back to $45
• 1:18:08
  a gallon.
• 1:18:09
  Unknown: He's been don't you joyously go up and pay that?
• 1:18:15
  Unknown: Yeah. I guess so. Yes. You're a better
• 1:18:20
  Unknown: Wahid went and heard from you in a while. What's been going on? You've been chased by any pit bulls or anythings?
• 1:18:25
  Unknown: Oh, no. I've just been meditating all the distractions
• 1:18:30
  and just watching it.
• 1:18:32
  I'm still just meditating and watching all the distractions they're using.
• 1:18:38
  But there was a great article on
• 1:18:42
  say again?
• 1:18:43
  Unknown: I said it's pretty interesting time. There was a great article where, Gwaiib?
• 1:18:49
  Unknown: Of two minds, and I don't have I don't know how to get back on Telegram
• 1:18:54
  because Mer
• 1:18:56
  not Mer. What
• 1:18:58
  Unknown: Merca.
• 1:18:59
  Unknown: Merkel.
• 1:19:00
  Merca.
• 1:19:02
  Showed me how to do it, and I I've lost I've completely lost. I have to call call,
• 1:19:07
  like, on a phone.
• 1:19:09
  Unknown: I don't have my telegram. I'm not tech friendly, so I don't know how to get back on. Where is Merk Merkah? Where is Merkah? Is this around? As of today I as of today, she's separated from this platform, and I don't know, and I'm not endorsing her site or gonna give you any advice about it.
• 1:19:27
  Unknown: Oh, I don't know what's been going on. I've been gone about a month from I've been I've been Yeah. I know. Meditating on all of the madness,
• 1:19:34
  but I need to get back on Telegram, and I don't know how.
• 1:19:38
  Unknown: Well, I'm not gonna tell you. How about that?
• 1:19:43
  Unknown: Where's Paul? Paul always help me when I have a TV problem. Paul, you're tell me? Paul, she at Mirka,
• 1:19:49
  Unknown: I had listened to the first of the show has been we've separated relationships
• 1:19:54
  with Mirka.
• 1:19:55
  We I no longer have a personal relationship, and she has no relationship with this platform with her group.
• 1:20:02
  K? Okay. That's what happened. To get back on Telegram.
• 1:20:05
  Can Paul help me get back on Telegram after the show is over? I I'll tell you what. Folks, you wanna hear somebody that doesn't listen? This guy right here.
• 1:20:14
  K? I don't know. I'm not gonna tell you, Wahid. K?
• 1:20:20
  Unknown: Okay. Well, I'll talk to Paul. I got Paul is gonna be on after the program. Paul ain't gonna tell you either.
• 1:20:26
  Unknown: Hey, Roger. You want me to let him know.
• 1:20:30
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Tell him, Brent.
• 1:20:33
  Unknown: Negro, please.
• 1:20:40
  Unknown: I've lost my Telegram connection. Oh gosh. Okay. Okay. Well, you go. Well, I hope a lot of other people do too because what happened here is Mirka decided to take her little petty personal shit and try and put it in front of this project,
• 1:20:56
  and it's moving forward at at what degree we can.
• 1:21:01
  And she had a relationship
• 1:21:02
  that she was due and owing to me,
• 1:21:06
  a fiduciary
• 1:21:07
  relationship
• 1:21:08
  that she would treat the people that I sent to her channel in respectful respectful ways
• 1:21:13
  and that she would inform them of important matters.
• 1:21:17
  When I called yesterday and asked Mirka
• 1:21:20
  to please let me leave a message or to post a message to her 500 plus subscribers that I sent her,
• 1:21:28
  that Paul was moving or moving the whole operation Oklahoma,
• 1:21:32
  and we're looking for people that might contribute and help us. Because there's a lot of people that really do appreciate this information,
• 1:21:40
  and they do wanna help. And I really resent her standing in the way of that and making that executive decision
• 1:21:47
  on people, my students,
• 1:21:49
  that I sent her.
• 1:21:50
  So if she wants to take command, she can go off and do it on her own. I I don't want anything to do with her anymore. You're not gonna stand in the way of this project with your selfish,
• 1:22:02
  petty,
• 1:22:03
  emotional
• 1:22:04
  shit.
• 1:22:06
  Get it?
• 1:22:08
  Get it, Wahid?
• 1:22:14
  Am I is anybody out there? Have I driven everybody off?
• 1:22:18
  Unknown: No. I'm here, Christian. Okay.
• 1:22:21
  Unknown: Okay. So that's what happened, Wahid.
• 1:22:23
  Unknown: I heard I heard you. I don't know what's going on. Okay. I heard what you said. I just told you, Wahid.
• 1:22:29
  Unknown: I just told you. I just I I said I
• 1:22:32
  Unknown: heard heard everything you said.
• 1:22:34
  Unknown: It's not just he said. Forced divorced.
• 1:22:36
  Unknown: Right? Yeah. I guess so. My my phone, you know Takes me a while with my phone.
• 1:22:43
  Unknown: Okay. Well, mine too. It's ringing over there in the corner. I won't answer it.
• 1:22:48
  Anyway, regardless, so,
• 1:22:50
  go to,
• 1:22:52
  nationalstatus.info
• 1:22:55
  or nationalstatus.com,
• 1:22:57
  Dave and Kay's website down there, and deal with if you need stuff through there,
• 1:23:03
  Wahid.
• 1:23:06
  Because I cannot I cannot endorse Merca's
• 1:23:09
  telegram
• 1:23:10
  channel anymore because she will not tell people the the important piece of information, and I won't have that.
• 1:23:19
  Unknown: Now now what was the information that she wouldn't tell? I think I maybe missed that. She would not post or allow me to put up a message,
• 1:23:27
  Unknown: solicit things to anybody that could help us contribute funds for Paul's move, and she would not post it herself.
• 1:23:34
  She would not allow it to be posted. Mirka controls thinks she controls everything over there like a
• 1:23:41
  faffing damn East Prussian general.
• 1:23:44
  And I won't have it when she's got a fiduciary relationship
• 1:23:48
  to me because I sent my students over there. And she's gonna keep stuff like that that can impair the development of this project on her selfish little emotional bullshit.
• 1:23:59
  Sorry, Murr. You're a female. I don't put up with that shit.
• 1:24:03
  Yeah. I know. You're not gonna take your emotional crap
• 1:24:07
  and superimpose
• 1:24:08
  it over the whole situation of the whole group and this whole project. That's selfish, that's self centered. I will not work with you, and I will not put up with it. You gotta do your own thing.
• 1:24:20
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:24:22
  You know what he
• 1:24:24
  you know. Now you know what he
• 1:24:28
  Unknown: So
• 1:24:29
  here's the
• 1:24:31
  lesson to be learned from this. Don't get in. Weasel your way in here. Have some kind of a position where you're in the the workings of this thing and try and sabotage it from within. I suggest you don't do that.
• 1:24:45
  K?
• 1:24:46
  Roger. Who is the guy right there?
• 1:24:49
  A Christian. Okay,
• 1:24:52
  Christian. Yes, sir.
• 1:24:55
  Unknown: Yeah. I wanted to just take you back take back a little bit about what you asked, I believe it was Mer,
• 1:25:02
  what turn what enlightened
• 1:25:05
  you on what Roger Sales and Paul are doing here.
• 1:25:09
  Unknown: And I said that's embarrassing. No.
• 1:25:12
  No. I want to know what woke her up initially.
• 1:25:16
  Was it Waco?
• 1:25:17
  Was it before that? Was it 09:11?
• 1:25:21
  Was it the housing crash in the of of eighty eight or any of that stuff? That was what I was looking for, but that's okay. Okay? Yeah. Hey, Roger.
• 1:25:30
  Unknown: Yeah. That's what I was muted, and I always like to hear what Gary has to add. Just
• 1:25:35
  Unknown: saying. Oh, okay. Well, I I didn't hear him talking up. There are two, three people. Finish up, Christian. I'll get to you, Gary.
• 1:25:44
  Unknown: Yeah. That was the you know, the Bible says you're saved by the word of your testimony.
• 1:25:49
  And how you got how you came to the truth
• 1:25:52
  was a very important thing that you asked Mer.
• 1:25:56
  And what
• 1:25:58
  changed your mind to start listening?
• 1:26:00
  And,
• 1:26:02
  you know, Danny Murphy was the one that led me led me to you
• 1:26:07
  and Paul and
• 1:26:09
  Roger Sales.
• 1:26:11
  And and
• 1:26:12
  and
• 1:26:13
  he's the one because we were in the patriot movement for a long time, and and nothing I was doing was working,
• 1:26:22
  but it has helped me. So I just wanted to say,
• 1:26:26
  Danny,
• 1:26:27
  by word-of-mouth
• 1:26:30
  by word-of-mouth, Billy Graham said,
• 1:26:33
  90% of his advertisement
• 1:26:35
  came from not billboards or anything, but by mouth to mouth. They're just like Jesus did, and that's the way you're doing it. Well, that's the best. That's the only way that really works. Best form of advertising in the world is why multilevel works.
• 1:26:48
  Unknown: You know? I mean, you go back over the basics of that, but pretty common.
• 1:26:52
  Unknown: I wanna hear what Gary's got to say here. Yeah. Real quick before you take Gary, though. When I understood Roger to say was my own personal what woke me up, he just specified that. And it's been many things over time. Not just about coming here and finding out this. I yield.
• 1:27:09
  Unknown: That's what I was asking her. You know, I'm curious about people's story and how they and then what caused you to wake up? Was it Waco? Waco woke a lot of people up. You know, any of these individual incidents along the way were finally,
• 1:27:22
  how did Vince Foster kill himself off there in that park and roll himself up in the damn
• 1:27:28
  rug?
• 1:27:29
  You know, that kind of stuff. Gary.
• 1:27:33
  Unknown: Roger, this is Gina.
• 1:27:35
  Unknown: Oh, hey, Gina.
• 1:27:37
  How
• 1:27:38
  Unknown: are you? So I'm
• 1:27:40
  good. How are you? I'm pretty good today.
• 1:27:44
  Well, it's always good to hear, Roger.
• 1:27:46
  I I have a question about
• 1:27:49
  the
• 1:27:50
  the move
• 1:27:53
  that Paul's making. Is is this a move that is a
• 1:27:59
  purse a personal
• 1:28:01
  relocation,
• 1:28:03
  or is this
• 1:28:05
  Unknown: something different than that? No. It involves the whole project because the project is Paul. It involves computers.
• 1:28:11
  It involves all the other stuff. Wouldn't you think it'd be desirable to get out of New York? I do. I don't want the head of my network up there in New York. He's got an option.
• 1:28:22
  We already had some monies that had already been contributing.
• 1:28:25
  They purchased a dwelling down there to my understanding.
• 1:28:29
  It's gonna need a little work,
• 1:28:31
  and, we gotta get him moved. He bought a bus a couple of years ago at a dirt cheap sale that he's gonna use. Somebody else is gonna help him, but it's everything involved with moving the network
• 1:28:42
  and the headquarters and the bivouac down there to this particular little town right up on the border of Northern Oklahoma,
• 1:28:49
  Gina, and it's very close to main Internet trunk lines
• 1:28:53
  and other things that are very, very facilitators
• 1:28:57
  for us. And I wanna get Paul's ass out of New York, quite frankly. We've been trying for years now. This is the third attempt,
• 1:29:04
  and it's gonna go through this time, I hope.
• 1:29:07
  Okay? Because if we can't get enough contributions,
• 1:29:11
  then I'm gonna reach in my pocket. I've already put over $1,500
• 1:29:15
  in this personally.
• 1:29:16
  Other people have done all kinds of stuff, and I did not appreciate miss Mirka's way of dealing with this one bit. She was part of this group and included in that also.
• 1:29:27
  I will not let her petty crap stand in the way of my long term goals. You don't take personal emotional shit and put it up in the way of of the groups as something that advantages the whole group and maybe millions of other people down the line.
• 1:29:43
  I know how I do that. And the other part and hold. There's another part to this. There's a legal part to this.
• 1:29:48
  See? Merca, whether and it wasn't spoken. It was, of course, into included
• 1:29:54
  in when I send my students over there to be taken care of, that I've garnered through this platform.
• 1:30:01
  I expect them to be taken care of properly,
• 1:30:04
  and that includes being informed
• 1:30:06
  of important things like getting our whole network moved on these dates that are penciled in. Now, fortunately, we've got most of the money, and we can probably come up with the rest.
• 1:30:17
  But I know from personal experience
• 1:30:20
  that there's a lot of people in her list that or whatever their lives have changed. They don't listen. They don't know about this, but they've been empowered by the information,
• 1:30:29
  and they'd love to contribute.
• 1:30:30
  But Mirka decides she's gonna be a gatekeeper and not let them know about it. I won't stand for that, Gina. I'm sorry.
• 1:30:38
  Unknown: Gotta tell you something,
• 1:30:39
  Unknown: sorry. Counterproductive,
• 1:30:41
  and you're sabotaging my operations,
• 1:30:44
  goals, and dreams,
• 1:30:46
  and what I've spent half of my life doing with your own selfish crap.
• 1:30:50
  Uh-uh. I ain't putting up with it. Sorry. This You've got your own This goes back
• 1:30:55
  Unknown: some years now because it's about It does. It does. Like I said Jealousy. The only com Competition.
• 1:31:03
  This is jealousy and competition.
• 1:31:05
  Unknown: The only problems I get where people contact me personally through email or phone calls always involve Mirka, and they always involve something on this channel. It's been happening for years. It's nothing new.
• 1:31:22
  Unknown: So Sorry. The That's the way it is. So what you're so what you're telling me
• 1:31:27
  is that
• 1:31:28
  in regards to the move itself,
• 1:31:31
  there's a whole lot of computers
• 1:31:34
  that have to be moved.
• 1:31:36
  I No. I don't
• 1:31:38
  Unknown: Well, no. But the computers that run everything
• 1:31:41
  are with Paul. Paul and the computers that run everything on this network and they're gonna do in the thing in the future, they're married at the hip. And don't try and get this, oh, it's just here to help Paul. I don't you tell you tell Mirka whatever problem she's got emotionally with Paul, she's had a couple of years to straighten it out. And she hadn't it. So I'm straightening it out right now. There will be no more problem from Merkah and her crap. I am not I am not
• 1:32:11
  Unknown: I am not going to be
• 1:32:14
  doing anything of that sort. I'm asking a very
• 1:32:19
  Unknown: specific question so I can be in the well, can I let me see if I can answer this? Paul is the network,
• 1:32:26
  Gina.
• 1:32:27
  If there wasn't a Paul, there more than likely wouldn't be a network with everything that he's brought to the table, with everything that he's contributed.
• 1:32:36
  He pays all kinds of subscriptions
• 1:32:39
  and stuff out of his own pocket and never even tells me about it. Okay? So, yes, Paul has put out way more than the call of duty more than this
• 1:32:51
  opposition
• 1:32:52
  on this grounds from this person.
• 1:32:55
  K? So that's my I'm
• 1:32:58
  Unknown: And that's she's
• 1:32:59
  the
• 1:33:00
  creator,
• 1:33:01
  Unknown: Dennis, not me.
• 1:33:04
  Unknown: Gina's question is is it a personal move? Yes.
• 1:33:08
  It is a personal move, but he's essential.
• 1:33:11
  Listen, it's not just here. He helped Paul English.
• 1:33:15
  None of his stuff was being recorded, but Paul was recording it. Paul has offered his help to others who refused it.
• 1:33:22
  So, you know, it's his expertise in these matters that is essential. Yeah. But it is a personal move. Yeah.
• 1:33:30
  Unknown: It is. See, sorry. Here's it's not the question. Here's the question. Does Marco wanna be a team player, or does she wanna be an eye over there on the side? Because that's what she wants to be, and I stay on here all the time. This is a team effort. Teams always accomplish more than individuals.
• 1:33:46
  There's no eye in team. I don't know how many times I have to say it, but I'm not putting up with it, Gina. She's not gonna try and sabotage my,
• 1:33:54
  my goals and my operation from within. I won't stand for it.
• 1:33:59
  Unknown: I don't I don't know. I don't hold on, Mer. Okay. Hold on for a second, please. I'm not on here often. I have valid questions that I wanted clarification
• 1:34:11
  on and you're all over me. Please stop.
• 1:34:15
  I'm asking
• 1:34:17
  Unknown: questions so I can get things straight in my mind and understand what's going on. And here's Okay. Well, I thought I explained it as thoroughly as I could, but I'm open to questions, Gina. So ask me some more. Not really.
• 1:34:31
  Unknown: So
• 1:34:33
  if if he's
• 1:34:34
  the one who's created the network and I understand
• 1:34:38
  that he's been
• 1:34:41
  a pillar
• 1:34:42
  and a and a milestone
• 1:34:43
  person to help you with the technical aspect of everything that you're doing. Oh, more than that.
• 1:34:50
  Unknown: More much more than that. Understand all of that. Okay? But those things were were Okay. Tell me what. What's Marca? What's Marca done for us, Gina? What's Marca done for us? Can you please gonna leave us a list of that?
• 1:35:05
  Well, can can you can
• 1:35:08
  you you
• 1:35:09
  can All I get is complaint. Shan,
• 1:35:12
  Unknown: you
• 1:35:13
  hold on, Roger. You can you asked me a question. I'm gonna answer you.
• 1:35:18
  She has done as much for
• 1:35:21
  the cause that that you
• 1:35:23
  have
• 1:35:24
  spearheaded as what we have.
• 1:35:27
  Unknown: She has. No. I don't think so. Yes. She people that I send them over there. Yes. She instructs them. She volunteered
• 1:35:34
  for that. She didn't volunteer to keep important information away from them when they're my students
• 1:35:40
  and things that have to do directly with this project and its advancement.
• 1:35:45
  Unknown: The most thing he has done a lot. What the what the falling out came is when Paul opened another,
• 1:35:51
  telegram to for the overflow,
• 1:35:53
  Unknown: basically. Well, and we wouldn't have done that if she wouldn't have been cutting off people's access to information.
• 1:35:59
  John Cassero have had the same damn reaction.
• 1:36:02
  They couldn't believe trying to work with her the way she was treating them.
• 1:36:07
  These are the complaints, Gina, that I've gotten for four years. The exactly like that different person. Robin from Colorado
• 1:36:15
  came on the show one day. I what who is trying to ask me all these questions? I just wanna join this group.
• 1:36:21
  So I don't want anything to do with this.
• 1:36:24
  So that's what's been going on. I've been trying it's my fault because I didn't address it. So I'll take full responsibility
• 1:36:30
  that I didn't take the the Mirka's little childish,
• 1:36:34
  petty bullshit
• 1:36:35
  of how she wants to rule our group and try and address her about it. I have more important things to do. I thought she'd be an adult, but she's not an adult. She's a smother mother evidently.
• 1:36:46
  And what broke the camel's back was yesterday
• 1:36:49
  when she would not let me put a message up alerting the 500 plus people, many who probably want to contribute if they knew this was happening, and she wouldn't put it up there, and she wouldn't let me put it up there on a group that I suggested she start and sent her virtually everybody that's in the whole damn group. And she treats me like that on a direct request?
• 1:37:12
  No. Sorry.
• 1:37:13
  There is no excuse.
• 1:37:15
  There is no is this a Paul's move? Why? There is no excuse.
• 1:37:20
  You're not a team player or you are. Mirka has shown us she is not.
• 1:37:26
  Good. You don't wanna be a team player? You don't wanna cooperate on some because you're little female,
• 1:37:33
  emotional bullshit,
• 1:37:34
  whatever grudge you're carrying? Tough shit.
• 1:37:37
  Later. I don't have time to deal with it, and I won't.
• 1:37:42
  That's the way I feel, Gina. Sorry.
• 1:37:44
  I've worked my half my damn adult life to get here. I'm gonna take that bullshit?
• 1:37:49
  Nope. Nope. I'm not.
• 1:37:51
  You may. If you want to, you go over to communicate with her over there. But as far as I'm concerned, she's no longer affiliated with this project or this platform.
• 1:38:03
  They understand that.
• 1:38:06
  Unknown: Thank you, Roger.
• 1:38:07
  Unknown: Yes. I'm sorry, Gina. I got lines too, and I will not let you, with your petty bullshit,
• 1:38:14
  sabotage my lifetime goals
• 1:38:17
  from within
• 1:38:18
  some over some emotional grudge.
• 1:38:21
  Well, you know what he said. I don't give a shit what he said. I give a shit about this project. Gina, I give a shit about your freedom. I give a shit about all these people's freedom.
• 1:38:32
  I don't want anything to stand in the way of it, and Mirka decided
• 1:38:36
  she would. So I hope you got the satisfaction
• 1:38:40
  you've been looking for, Mirka.
• 1:38:43
  So I'm gonna take care of the problem I've been having with you on this. You're gone.
• 1:38:52
  Unknown: Roger.
• 1:38:54
  Unknown: Yes.
• 1:38:57
  Yeah. I'm getting so emotional. I'm getting ready to cry. Yeah. I am emotional. I'm emotional about my life's goddamn work. Do you understand?
• 1:39:06
  Unknown: The best thing you ever did was to to to
• 1:39:09
  to tell everybody and explain to them what the difference is
• 1:39:13
  in the two jurisdictions in America and who's and especially who's behind it. That's the biggest thing you've been able to contribute. You better you better believe you can put that in your back pocket and take it back any anytime you want to. Those are two of the most important damn things you've ever done along with other information that you're you're you're privileged to. But those two little issues right there, who's in charge, who's taking charge, and the two different jurisdictions in this country are the most important part you've ever contributed, and they are a wealth of information.
• 1:39:44
  Thank you, Roger.
• 1:39:45
  Unknown: Man, I love you. I want you to be free. I try and grease the goddamn wheels on everything we do around here. Make it as simple as possible. Every sacrifice I can make, don't charge up any. And Mirka will not put a fundraising message
• 1:40:00
  to move our network
• 1:40:02
  on her telegram site that I
• 1:40:06
  not only advised her but built.
• 1:40:10
  No, Mirka. No. Yes.
• 1:40:16
  Yes.
• 1:40:17
  Unknown: Back on track.
• 1:40:19
  Back on track.
• 1:40:21
  Mark and I came to you from Ralph Winter Road,
• 1:40:26
  which means we were already headed the right direction. We already left the diving board.
• 1:40:31
  Yes. And we're pretty sure there's water in the bottom,
• 1:40:35
  but we jumped anyway.
• 1:40:38
  Personally, myself, I started catching on to all this in 1970,
• 1:40:42
  the millisecond I left high school.
• 1:40:45
  Everything that they taught me wasn't quite on par. I was seeing discrepancies
• 1:40:51
  in every direction I went.
• 1:40:54
  So thank you for your efforts. I can't speak for Mark except that I know that much for a fact. Have a good day. Well, and I know. Persuaded
• 1:41:02
  Unknown: of the day. Well, that was the other day. They put a lot of water on the bridge. Third day of my 70,
• 1:41:08
  and I'm cutting establishments
• 1:41:10
  or groups away from my away from my damn life's goal here and accomplishing everything I've ever wanted to have in life, and I will not have incidents like this stand in the way. Just so just so you know, if you're gonna try and do something like this, I'm gonna run over your ass. If you're gonna stand in the way of this project
• 1:41:31
  and its development and its moving forward, I'm gonna run over your ass if I can.
• 1:41:40
  Unknown: Roger.
• 1:41:41
  Listen to me.
• 1:41:43
  Roger,
• 1:41:44
  you're 78.
• 1:41:46
  When you blow a gasket, they're probably gonna have to order that part.
• 1:41:51
  Unknown: I'm not even gonna stock it. I'm not even upset.
• 1:41:54
  I'm disgusted.
• 1:41:56
  I'm disgusted
• 1:41:57
  that that's the kind of appreciation I get for showing her her freedom and teaching her all this. That's how much she appreciates it. That's disgust.
• 1:42:12
  Did you say that she had 500 people under her belt?
• 1:42:16
  Plus.
• 1:42:17
  Plus.
• 1:42:21
  That was a few months back.
• 1:42:23
  And guess where they all came from, Mona? She didn't go out on Hollywood Boulevard
• 1:42:28
  handing out pamphlets. You wanna join my telegram brief on freedom?
• 1:42:33
  I sent all those damn people over there. And then she acts like the female lord of the damn manner worse than the federal damn government. Nope. You can't get that information. Nope. Can't post that unless it goes through me. Nope. We got these guidelines. Nope. Can't do that. Well, I didn't send you over there for that.
• 1:42:52
  And if I had really realized the extent of what was going on, I'd have pulled the string on this one hell of a lot earlier,
• 1:42:59
  but she just hit the magic button yesterday.
• 1:43:02
  K?
• 1:43:03
  Unknown: But what what what Roger Roger, what is so big a deal about why is she making a big big deal of raising money to help him with the technical
• 1:43:12
  Unknown: Because she's got a damn hard on for Paul.
• 1:43:19
  Unknown: Oh, it's something it's something personal between her and Paul. Oh, yeah. I wonder why it gets so upset.
• 1:43:29
  Unknown: We need to move on.
• 1:43:31
  Unknown: I'm sorry. Well, let's get let's get this out of my system because, boy, it absolutely burned my ass yesterday.
• 1:43:38
  Okay?
• 1:43:40
  I mean, burned my ass.
• 1:43:43
  So Well, I do find out the
• 1:43:45
  I'm going
• 1:43:47
  to take hard care of the problem.
• 1:43:49
  I'm taking care of the problem
• 1:43:52
  forward
• 1:43:53
  because I'm getting rid of the origins
• 1:43:56
  of virtually all the problems I've had and complaints I've had has been Mirka. The way she handled this group, the way she handled introducing them and dealing with information,
• 1:44:07
  and her damn attitude
• 1:44:09
  of secret, secret, secret, secret. Now we want everybody to be exposed
• 1:44:13
  to this. I thought you understood that. Obviously, you didn't. Again, I'll take full responsibility
• 1:44:19
  for this because I didn't have any idea that somebody could fuck up a damn group so damn thoroughly and effectively.
• 1:44:31
  Unknown: Emotion breathed calluses.
• 1:44:36
  Unknown: Boy, I tell you, I don't get lit up very often, but
• 1:44:39
  Mark assured us too. I'm damn glad I'm not too married to her. I have to sleep with her. K?
• 1:44:46
  But I won't put up with this shit. If I did, I'd get married again.
• 1:44:50
  Unknown: K?
• 1:44:52
  Unknown: Now is there anybody else that's got something to say? You got any comment on this? You wanna come in and defend Mark? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Paul's moving. Paul's kind of the nucleus of this whole outfit. In case you hadn't noticed
• 1:45:04
  in case you hadn't noticed,
• 1:45:08
  he'd been a godsend and a blessing to me.
• 1:45:11
  All Mark has done is just cause me problems
• 1:45:15
  Just the way she treats people, I'd send over there.
• 1:45:23
  Sorry, folks. I really am. I am, but it burned my ass
• 1:45:28
  with that damn in
• 1:45:30
  the in the military, what do they call that? Insubordination.
• 1:45:35
  But in the military, they court martial your ass.
• 1:45:40
  Yes. He was wanting to say something.
• 1:45:43
  Unknown: Oh, this is Manna.
• 1:45:46
  I'm reading that book about
• 1:45:49
  about
• 1:45:50
  Unknown: Yeah. I want you. About
• 1:45:52
  Unknown: unhumans and and
• 1:45:56
  how to fight and work against communism.
• 1:46:00
  And it's
• 1:46:02
  just really sad, you know, that listening to this, you know, that
• 1:46:09
  that
• 1:46:10
  they can organize together no matter what their differences are. They they have a singular goal, and they'll fight about those differences after they put us in chains.
• 1:46:22
  But they'll work together
• 1:46:24
  till the bitter end for it.
• 1:46:27
  And for some reason,
• 1:46:28
  we all have these
• 1:46:31
  little
• 1:46:33
  hang ups
• 1:46:35
  and not defending Merca at all. I just
• 1:46:38
  Unknown: it's just sad to hear that You don't have a you know, Mer I wish somebody would come up with a defense. To me, she has no defense at all. First of all, she had a fiduciary relationship,
• 1:46:49
  whether it was stated or not, to treat those people I sent over there properly
• 1:46:54
  and to inform them and try and take them by the hand and teach them and answer her questions, not to keep important information
• 1:47:00
  away from them. That wasn't her job description. Damn it.
• 1:47:06
  Unknown: My point is is that it's up to her and all of us to put
• 1:47:12
  all those aside and and and and
• 1:47:15
  rally behind you and not
• 1:47:18
  Unknown: and not pull away like that. Well, in essence, what well,
• 1:47:23
  I I agree with that. You would think everybody would be on board with the great goal of, you know, the group goal here.
• 1:47:30
  But Mark had just marched to a different drummer.
• 1:47:33
  She just marched to a different drummer. She gonna make other decisions that have no benefit for the group that actually could be a detriment.
• 1:47:42
  What if it's that the somebody that would want in there wanna send thousands of dollars, and they're never gonna know about this just because Merkel refused to put a damn alert in her group to my students.
• 1:47:54
  And and it was a request from me under
• 1:47:56
  a fiduciary
• 1:47:58
  label. I mean, she just she effed up every way you can eff up here.
• 1:48:03
  Unknown: Hey, Raj. Yeah. There's a there's a relate I
• 1:48:08
  yield.
• 1:48:09
  Unknown: Okay. Yeah, Paul.
• 1:48:13
  Unknown: I've known about this for a long time. I've I've known about
• 1:48:17
  how
• 1:48:20
  she ran the Telegram group and how tightly it was locked down. I tried to talk to her about it and
• 1:48:26
  it fell on deaf ears.
• 1:48:29
  And
• 1:48:30
  actually,
• 1:48:31
  how I discovered
• 1:48:33
  that the group was locked down was it had been up for a year or two and it had a lot of good information in it, and I
• 1:48:43
  took it upon myself
• 1:48:45
  to perform
• 1:48:46
  an offline
• 1:48:48
  backup
• 1:48:49
  of that group,
• 1:48:52
  and
• 1:48:54
  she locked it down and stopped the backup from happening.
• 1:48:58
  It's like she's taking ownership and control over all of the data on that channel and doesn't want anybody else to have access to that data without being in the group
• 1:49:10
  and being under her rules and all this stuff.
• 1:49:14
  Now I knew this was happening years ago. I didn't say anything about it. Well, I did bitch about it a little bit, but I really didn't. Well,
• 1:49:22
  Unknown: that's when you and John started the other channel because you're disgust with this kind of being treated like this. Well, exactly. Not here to to to to take information and put it in a burn bag.
• 1:49:34
  They had somebody's discretion to release it. We're here for people to gain the damn information
• 1:49:39
  and have access to it, and that's the intention,
• 1:49:42
  at least, that I meant when I told her to go open a channel. I had no idea she'd run it like an east east
• 1:49:49
  German,
• 1:49:50
  Russian, damn
• 1:49:51
  panzer director.
• 1:49:53
  Unknown: Yeah. Well Yeah. But, Roger, they're still they're still our listeners. We can you don't need you're still listening to Roger sales. Well, I hope so. Well, that's okay. Well,
• 1:50:06
  Unknown: so what? So what, Waheem?
• 1:50:08
  They're my listeners. But she has no control over we have the listeners still. We just tell them, hey. Send cash. Shap some money so we can get in the text. Well, yeah, while people everybody doesn't get a chance to listen every day. Their lives get disrupted. They get distracted.
• 1:50:23
  They hadn't checked in in months. Those are the ones that I'm concerned about, the ones that really have been impacted by the information
• 1:50:31
  and would gladfully
• 1:50:33
  and then donate,
• 1:50:34
  but they don't know about it because Merca
• 1:50:37
  refuses to put Paul's name in a request for contributions
• 1:50:41
  with her little ego,
• 1:50:42
  snitty,
• 1:50:43
  female,
• 1:50:44
  selfish,
• 1:50:45
  self centered attitude and reasons.
• 1:50:48
  She's taking her emotion.
• 1:50:50
  You just she's taking her emotional bull personal bullshit
• 1:50:54
  and putting it in over
• 1:50:56
  the benefit of the entire group. I won't have it. I got
• 1:51:01
  Unknown: it. But let's balance this out. You yourself had said you should be a lawyer. She's brought a lot of good content too. Oh, I'm look. I'm not I'm not you know what I'm bitching about? I'm not negative.
• 1:51:12
  Unknown: She's been around. I think she's got a lot of talents. I'm sorry this happened. I sure as hell wouldn't take her on a lawyer. She can put me over in a corner and protect me from anything.
• 1:51:23
  No. Sorry. It's just it's that one thing. It's these stubborn refusals and thinking this is all her domain,
• 1:51:30
  and it's not her domain.
• 1:51:32
  If she is a good lawyer, Murr, she'd know about fiduciary
• 1:51:37
  responsibilities,
• 1:51:38
  and that's her burden to treat these people that I send her with total respect,
• 1:51:44
  total care, and to inform them to the ninth,
• 1:51:47
  especially
• 1:51:48
  if it's something that I personally
• 1:51:52
  take the fifth time to get ahold of her to try and tell her about.
• 1:51:57
  Unknown: Yeah. Now I get it. I get it. It's like I said, it's competition and jealousy.
• 1:52:02
  But, Roger, you need to put that quarter in the bus ride, go up to that plateau, and do a few laps.
• 1:52:10
  Unknown: Now I need to get in vent and doing things like this, especially, you this audio. I want you to understand. I'm I don't lie to you. I'd never do anything like that to you. Okay? And I won't have somebody in my name doing it to you For whatever reason to take your own selfish motives and try and super implant the motives of what we do here in the group and the group that we may potentially
• 1:52:34
  reach if we've got all these things right because if we don't have it, we're not gonna have a network to do it.
• 1:52:41
  So, yeah, boy, it pissed me off. K? Yeah. And Don't don't don't pull that bullshit on me. And it's just a I'm sorry for anybody else. If you wanna help and contribute like she had, volunteer to. We'll
• 1:52:54
  help you. Yeah. We can use all the help we can get. Well, don't go in there and hinder what we're doing because you're selfish bullshit.
• 1:53:01
  Unknown: Yeah. Paul? I I knew about this. I knew this was coming years ago,
• 1:53:06
  and just
• 1:53:08
  I I didn't push it. I I created the other No. You never never had. Radio ranch telegram groups.
• 1:53:16
  I created those.
• 1:53:18
  Murr has been absolutely
• 1:53:20
  stellar
• 1:53:21
  on the two radioranch.chitango.com,
• 1:53:26
  the Chitango group,
• 1:53:29
  and
• 1:53:30
  I just let it lie.
• 1:53:32
  I let it lie,
• 1:53:34
  and and I knew that that eventually something would happen that would completely
• 1:53:38
  overturn an entire
• 1:53:40
  program,
• 1:53:41
  like, kinda like it has today.
• 1:53:44
  Unknown: But So Yeah. It was I apologize.
• 1:53:47
  It it has been. I've been like I said, it's my fault. I've I've been aware of it over for four years a couple of times. Like I said, emails and phone calls. This girl's doing this. She's bitch.
• 1:54:00
  Bitch. Bitch. Oh, she won't let us have this. She got this locked up. It's all the you know, that's not the way I envisioned you running a channel. I envision a channel. See, I don't join them, and I don't like them because there's just two constant distractions for me. But some people like it and need it. It serves a purpose. Fantastic.
• 1:54:20
  Well, you don't run it by restricting information.
• 1:54:24
  Unknown: Paul
• 1:54:25
  Unknown: English would love to be the Internet and work. Telegram all day.
• 1:54:30
  Just so he had to to get our information everywhere,
• 1:54:33
  not protect it, and keep it hidden. K?
• 1:54:36
  So and and I'm sorry. If there's a misunderstanding,
• 1:54:39
  Mirka, I'm really sorry. Okay? But, boy, I am not gonna let you pull this shit on me.
• 1:54:46
  Unknown: The problem I have with it is she's locked down the channel so you cannot download
• 1:54:52
  anything in an active thread, and you cannot even
• 1:54:56
  screen capture
• 1:54:57
  information
• 1:54:59
  that's in the thread. Now that's ridiculous.
• 1:55:01
  Well, maybe that's a screen cap. All you get is She's got it. Kilogram background.
• 1:55:06
  Unknown: Okay. There's some kind of some something else going on here, and I don't know about it, and I don't understand it, but it's not on board with what we do and the way we do it. Who was trying? Chris, you were trying to say something a minute ago, and I just rolled over you, sir. I'm sorry. No.
• 1:55:22
  Unknown: No. No. I just wanna say we need to have
• 1:55:26
  we need to have respect for what Roger
• 1:55:29
  and and Paul know what is going on.
• 1:55:33
  You might be we might be right
• 1:55:35
  in some things,
• 1:55:37
  but when he sees something wrong,
• 1:55:39
  Unknown: we need to have enough respect to say, oh. Oh, we didn't really see that. Well What what was going on? You know? Well, you wouldn't you wouldn't have seen it. You might not have even got it from interacting with her. I don't know. I don't know how she treat. All I get are a few horror stories about keeping people from information and this and that and the other, and then I personally, on the fifth try, get her over the last two weeks to personally ask her on the channel that she set up with my people if she could tell them about. Judge, you didn't have to beat on them. Don't have to tell everybody to do it. I'm not asking everybody to do it. But there are people over there, I guarantee you, that would want to and would and perhaps generously
• 1:56:22
  if they even knew about it. And miss Merkel's made the decision that they shan't know about it. If they hadn't been checking in on the archives or listen to the show, they won't know about it.
• 1:56:32
  Now I can't I won't stand for that.
• 1:56:36
  Unknown: May I? Yes,
• 1:56:38
  Unknown: please. You see things in perspective.
• 1:56:40
  You see things in perspective,
• 1:56:42
  And when you nip it in a bud, we shouldn't argue about it. Hey. We should say
• 1:56:47
  Unknown: Do
• 1:56:48
  you know how many effing personal sacrifices
• 1:56:52
  I've made in thirty four years?
• 1:56:56
  Sometimes you gotta take it for the team. Sometimes you gotta bury your petty bullshit
• 1:57:03
  and and and swallow it.
• 1:57:05
  And this is one of those times. And since you can't, you're no longer involved.
• 1:57:12
  And I It's just like he I can't and I can't recommend I can't recommend people go over there because now I can't recommend your judgment.
• 1:57:22
  I can't trust your personal
• 1:57:25
  judgment.
• 1:57:27
  Unknown: I just wanna squeeze this in over the music. I feel like it's good that you got all this out and to the point. And I also think that
• 1:57:38
  saying a little blurb
• 1:57:40
  about trying to get
• 1:57:42
  to America's channel,
• 1:57:45
  in a, positive, quick way every day would be good. And maybe put something on your website. Well, you ain't you're not gonna hear that here. I'm not sending people over there to get treated like that. Sorry, man. No. I didn't mean send them over there. I meant to bring them back over here or something that says, you know, Merck's channel
• 1:58:05
  Unknown: if you're listening. Well You know, just want to pick. So then if somebody's listening on our archive or that day, they'll know. And they'll be like, wait. We didn't get that message. If I was if I sent you over there, I had no idea what I was potentially subjecting you to, and I apologize to you personally for that. It's not a a detail
• 1:58:25
  that I ever thought I'd have to fuss over.
• 1:58:29
  Unknown: Yeah. If you said something like that on a daily basis, just quick and easy. I know. I I I
• 1:58:37
  Unknown: I hope I hope people get it. I don't wanna keep bringing it up. It's ugly. It starts this crap again. It gets me set off again.
• 1:58:45
  There's other there's important shit going on in the world to talk about rather than this.
• 1:58:51
  But
• 1:58:53
  try and learn from it. See you tomorrow with Brent. Maybe
• 1:59:00
  if you come back.
• 1:59:03
  Roger.
• 1:59:05
  Larry.
• 1:59:07
  Unknown: Yeah. Just
• 1:59:09
  for the sake that you have an accurate count of all the students that you sent over there,
• 1:59:15
  there's 389
• 1:59:17
  Unknown: members in the group. Somehow you have this number over 500 that you've mentioned. Okay. Well, I I thought that it was approaching that a while back. So I can I can speak on that? Oh,
• 1:59:28
  Unknown: you can. I can speak on that. Yeah. She
• 1:59:32
  had 420
• 1:59:33
  some,
• 1:59:34
  and it was continuing to grow. But
• 1:59:39
  instead of continuing to grow, it went
• 1:59:42
  backward.
• 1:59:43
  So
• 1:59:44
  she's lost a lot of people.
• 1:59:47
  Unknown: So what does that tell you, Larry? I I'm not the only one that got pissed off with her bullshit, evidently.
• 1:59:54
  Unknown: This is Chris from California.
• 1:59:57
  Unknown: I thought you were trying to get in there a minute ago. Chris, how are you doing, buddy? What I'm sorry I stepped on you and rolled over. Fine. Well,
• 2:00:05
  Unknown: I did notice when I introduced a few people to this program,
• 2:00:09
  I noticed her predatory
• 2:00:11
  tendencies.
• 2:00:13
  And, I didn't appreciate that, but I made note of it.
• 2:00:17
  And, there
• 2:00:19
  is definitely a problem there.
• 2:00:22
  Unknown: And Not anymore.
• 2:00:25
  Unknown: Yeah. We just have to be aware of it and move forward, and, everything will be okay.
• 2:00:31
  Unknown: Okay. I'm sorry. Sorry. She's oriented like that. Like I said, and what I the the actions I've seen are in psychology
• 2:00:39
  when I was in college, they would call that a smother
• 2:00:42
  mother
• 2:00:44
  who is so attentive and hovering over their child. They smother him to death, and that's what I sense
• 2:00:50
  she's kinda doing here. Don't know for sure, but I know that you don't you
• 2:00:56
  you don't confront somebody and say no when they've sent you these people, and I'm wanting to get this message to them, and you're trying to sequester them.
• 2:01:06
  No. No. So it didn't work that way. Sorry.
• 2:01:10
  Unknown: Yeah. It's called bad faith.
• 2:01:13
  Unknown: Actually, one person one person was watching
• 2:01:17
  her group and was looking for a post,
• 2:01:20
  and she didn't put one up, didn't put one up, didn't put one up, so they did.
• 2:01:26
  And it was liked by one
• 2:01:29
  one
• 2:01:29
  other person,
• 2:01:31
  and she saw it. She not only removed the post, but
• 2:01:37
  she
• 2:01:39
  admonished,
• 2:01:40
  spanked
• 2:01:42
  the person that posted it by private message.
• 2:01:46
  And as far as I know, that person is still unable to post anything else in the group. I think there there's a restriction put on that account. And Well It's a good thing they have nothing to say because they couldn't say it if they wanted to.
• 2:01:59
  Unknown: I I suggest
• 2:02:02
  that people that are in the group
• 2:02:04
  they disagree with this or whatever your feelings are,
• 2:02:08
  that if you feel strongly enough, unsubscribe and let her know why. Okay?
• 2:02:14
  Because I sent you over there under false pretenses.
• 2:02:17
  I thought you were gonna get instructions and to key important information,
• 2:02:21
  and that's been withheld from you. So I've sent people over there under false pretenses that I did not know, but I'll take responsibility for. And I, like Paul, should've dealt with this earlier. I kept kinda sloughing it off,
• 2:02:35
  and then it came back to bite me. And so that's it. That's all. No more problem because that's where all the problems have been emanating from. No more. She does have she does have valuable stuff in the group, and she does have a lot of correct information
• 2:02:51
  Unknown: in the group, and I'm not gonna say that she doesn't have correct information.
• 2:02:55
  The problem is the only way you can access that information
• 2:03:00
  is
• 2:03:01
  to go back and to view it live within the group.
• 2:03:05
  If you are not in the group anymore,
• 2:03:07
  you have no way of getting at that information. There's no way to copy it, there's no way to save it, there's no way to download it, There's no way to build your own personal offline
• 2:03:17
  study folder,
• 2:03:19
  which is absolutely
• 2:03:21
  imperative.
• 2:03:23
  What happens when they've got the second and third party authentication going on and people can't actually access the internet because
• 2:03:32
  they're not receiving a text message to their cell phone or they can't access telegram because they're not receiving a text message on their cell phone that's being blocked. What if you desperately need that information
• 2:03:46
  and you don't have access to the channel
• 2:03:49
  either by a grid down situation
• 2:03:52
  or whatever?
• 2:03:54
  Her locking the channel down so people cannot actually go through the channel, see the posts that have interest to them and are applicable to their situation,
• 2:04:03
  download them, print them out, and store them in a binder so they have that information at their fingertips if they need it or when they need it. She has locked that functionality
• 2:04:15
  down,
• 2:04:16
  and that was never part of the deal.
• 2:04:18
  Unknown: That's not part of anything in our life or what we do. I want our information open to everybody. That's why I've never copyrighted
• 2:04:26
  anything.
• 2:04:27
  I'm like Alex.
• 2:04:30
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:04:31
  Yeah. This day from Tampa.
• 2:04:34
  I've been I'm here every day. Hey. Hey. I I listen every day. I just never talk much, but I'm just wondering, do do all the people under Merca there do they know about you do they know
• 2:04:45
  Unknown: I mean do they know how to access your information or the website or I I've got a well I don't know about all of them 300 and however many there are but I gotta figure 95 plus percent of them. I they got to her through me. She in now on Hollywood Boulevard
• 2:05:04
  promoting her damn Twitter channel,
• 2:05:07
  telegram channel, whatever it is.
• 2:05:10
  So, yeah, they're mine. And in that
• 2:05:13
  comes a fiduciary
• 2:05:15
  relationship
• 2:05:16
  to treat them.
• 2:05:19
  My personal students
• 2:05:21
  have informed them. I turn them over to her to teach them, answer their questions,
• 2:05:27
  and to make all the information available. You can hear what Paul just went over. The information is not available. She keeps everything under lock and key. You can't do this. You can't do that. I personally,
• 2:05:39
  Dave,
• 2:05:40
  called her I think it was fourth or fifth time, finally got her, and said, all I want to do is ask you if I can leave a voice message, a solicitation,
• 2:05:50
  or you can post a message unless birddogs and people where they can contribute
• 2:05:56
  to our let's get Paul and the whole damn network's backbone moved.
• 2:06:01
  It ain't just Paul.
• 2:06:03
  It's a whole damn network and kit and caboodle. Do you not understand?
• 2:06:08
  Paul is the network.
• 2:06:11
  They
• 2:06:12
  are synonymous
• 2:06:13
  now.
• 2:06:14
  We're trying to get all of that moved down to a place that's
• 2:06:19
  a lot less threatening than the state of New York.
• 2:06:24
  Unknown: Sure. Sure. I just wanna make sure. There.
• 2:06:27
  Unknown: We're almost there.
• 2:06:29
  Okay. All we need if there comes up with expenses that we didn't know about, gas is going up every day, all the rest of that stuff.
• 2:06:37
  We'd like to have a little bit of cushion.
• 2:06:40
  So
• 2:06:41
  whatever. So all of us, I put in over $1,500
• 2:06:44
  myself, my own personal money into this. So has Mark, so has other people.
• 2:06:50
  And Mirka won't even tell our students
• 2:06:54
  that we need this help and are requesting it because of her personal, emotional,
• 2:06:59
  little
• 2:07:00
  little problem.
• 2:07:02
  Grow up, girl. This is the real world. That don't cut it. I don't care what organization you're a part of. You're not gonna put your personal
• 2:07:10
  bullshit
• 2:07:12
  wants, needs, and bitches, pisses, and moans ahead
• 2:07:15
  of the progress of the whole organization.
• 2:07:19
  It just doesn't mean it ain't gonna happen.
• 2:07:22
  Yes.
• 2:07:24
  Unknown: It's the most important information I ever came across in my life. I'll tell you that.
• 2:07:30
  Unknown: And same. Me too. It's it's information changes people's lives.
• 2:07:35
  Well, Merca doesn't want you in her group of my students to let you know that if you could wanted to and could, that you could help us out with this. And you know what? I'm sorry to be such an asshole about this, but I don't wanna work with people like that. I refuse the petty damn bullshit,
• 2:07:52
  politics, shit of greed, envy, territory,
• 2:07:57
  bureaucrat bureaucratic thinking,
• 2:07:59
  whatever it is. And I've expressed it time after time. I consider us to be a team.
• 2:08:06
  Teams always accomplish more than individuals.
• 2:08:09
  There are no eyes in team,
• 2:08:12
  and she's trying to be an eye in a team, and it does not work.
• 2:08:17
  Unknown: She she's simply on a power trip. There's
• 2:08:21
  Unknown: that's all there is. Okay. Well, not anymore. She go back find her own power power stool now.
• 2:08:27
  So because I won't put up with it. K?
• 2:08:30
  So, anyway, thank you. I thank you very much for coming forward. Who else got something to say about this
• 2:08:37
  or anything else?
• 2:08:40
  Nobody?
• 2:08:42
  Okay, Paul. I'm sorry, buddy, that we had to spend the whole show on this today, but it obviously
• 2:08:49
  was gonna come to a point
• 2:08:51
  where it had something had to be done.
• 2:08:54
  Okay?
• 2:08:57
  So, anyway alright. Well, nobody's there. Won't say anything. Sorry to have to be this way.
• 2:09:05
  Life demands hard choices sometimes.
• 2:09:08
  Yeah. There's such a I figured tough
• 2:09:11
  love.
• 2:09:12
  Unknown: I figured this would happen eventually,
• 2:09:15
  and
• 2:09:17
  I just
• 2:09:18
  I just changed course
• 2:09:21
  rather than, you know, create upheaval and a missing match and whatever.
• 2:09:26
  Just changed course. It's okay if we can't go that way, let's go this way, you know, for the good of the program and the good of the movement for the good of the the information.
• 2:09:36
  Alright. And I knew this was coming. And
• 2:09:40
  Unknown: Okay. And I'm sorry this had to happen. I'm sorry. Been over backwards to avoid it, everything else, but at some point, like I started the whole discussion with, I guess I'm like my mother.
• 2:09:52
  You just there gets to be a point when you push
• 2:09:55
  one too far, and you're gonna get some reaction, and that's what happened today.
• 2:10:03
  Unknown: K? Roger. I pushed your button. Yes, Larry. Yes.
• 2:10:07
  Unknown: She did.
• 2:10:08
  Unknown: Yeah. One thing for sure is I appreciate Paul's efforts to create this platform because
• 2:10:14
  not creative, but to maintain it and
• 2:10:17
  turn it into a very smooth operation because
• 2:10:20
  I've I've listened to, like, dozens and dozens of archives
• 2:10:24
  over the years. And I remember the days when you used to lose connection,
• 2:10:30
  and you were doing it all yourself, and that used to frustrate you.
• 2:10:34
  You know, you had your your,
• 2:10:36
  you know, like a group of men there.
• 2:10:39
  One of them, I forget his name, he passed away unexpectedly.
• 2:10:44
  Chris Cave?
• 2:10:45
  Yeah. Chris Cave. And those were the days when you were constantly losing connections and
• 2:10:52
  and, so you remember that stuff. And, you know, you hardly ever see that happen today.
• 2:10:57
  Unknown: Well, I mean, I just gotta tell you, you don't have any idea what a godsend Paul is.
• 2:11:02
  I I mean, I
• 2:11:04
  was over I Paul
• 2:11:06
  English wouldn't take my calls anymore. This shit's way above my pay grade. We were having to do stuff fundamentally,
• 2:11:13
  and it was screwing all changes.
• 2:11:15
  We wouldn't have much of a show if it wasn't for Paul Beaner. Paul Beaner is a answer to a prayer. Now that's the way I look at him. You may not think so, but now after being together for a couple of years, I've seen how he thinks. I've seen how he addresses situations.
• 2:11:33
  I think he uses very good judgment and discernment.
• 2:11:36
  As a radio host, he's a great cohost.
• 2:11:40
  We really have chemistry together,
• 2:11:42
  and he brings all kind like I said, he pays all kind of subscriptions and shit
• 2:11:47
  that per month out of his own pocket that I didn't even know he's paying. Okay?
• 2:11:52
  So Paul has brought much contribution to the table
• 2:11:55
  rather than problems. Paul doesn't create problems.
• 2:11:59
  Paul solves problems. Now is that Robbie?
• 2:12:02
  Unknown: It's me, Julie.
• 2:12:04
  Unknown: Julie.
• 2:12:06
  Unknown: It's your wallflower.
• 2:12:08
  Unknown: Yes, ma'am. That's you. I
• 2:12:11
  Unknown: just wanted to say, and I wanted to also tell everybody on here, for those of you who are technologically
• 2:12:17
  challenged, I don't think people understand the magnitude of what Paul does in terms of the cost of servers and uploading these recordings
• 2:12:27
  and then rendering them and editing them and then post you know when I make the mistake and throw an F bomb and that has to be edited out. This takes a lot of time
• 2:12:39
  and effort and a lot of terabytes of storage and he gives us access to all of that stuff for free on that platform in the back room and he is posting all of this on his Google Drive. All of that
• 2:12:52
  $50 here, $80 here, that all adds up on a monthly basis. And then think about his time, he gets paid zero
• 2:13:01
  for any of this. He does it voluntarily
• 2:13:03
  out of the goodness of his heart. And then not only that, but once the show's over, he lets us gab afterwards
• 2:13:11
  for hours into the night.
• 2:13:13
  And so and then again, he's not just doing Roger's show. He's also doing Paul English's show as well.
• 2:13:20
  Unknown: And better in his own stuff.
• 2:13:22
  Unknown: We have a lot to thank. We have a lot to be grateful for Paul on. And then forget that his knowledge base is expansive.
• 2:13:31
  And if you have issues and you don't understand things, you could text him, email him, and he will help explain it and dumb it down for you so that it resonates with you. So we have and, again, without Paul, we wouldn't have a show here, and we wouldn't have this gathering of this group of people. So I'm very grateful to Paul. I yield. Yep. I I I swear he's a godsend. You need to be in. The funniest thing is out of that dis jointed Sarah Westall interview,
• 2:13:56
  Unknown: all he heard was the last segment,
• 2:13:59
  and he showed up.
• 2:14:03
  That is a godsend.
• 2:14:05
  So
• 2:14:06
  he what's the third thing? Like, we're two two two little or different kinda
• 2:14:11
  spheres of influence, and we found each other, and we're both on the same page. And it's a wonderful symbiotic relationship,
• 2:14:19
  and we both needed each other. The benefits are manifold and huge.
• 2:14:23
  So all that, it's just perfect. That's Yeah. That's what I'm saying. All this stuff with Merca, it's just a distraction. It's always a distraction and a problem, and I never have that with Paul.
• 2:14:35
  Unknown: See? All I heard
• 2:14:37
  was the third hour of the Sarah Westall program.
• 2:14:41
  That's right. I don't I don't normally listen to Sarah Westall. I don't have a problem with her,
• 2:14:47
  but I don't normally listen to her.
• 2:14:50
  Do
• 2:14:53
  you know who actually sent me the link
• 2:14:56
  to Sarah Westall
• 2:14:58
  to that I third
• 2:15:00
  Unknown: have no idea.
• 2:15:02
  Unknown: Doc Peter,
• 2:15:04
  Peter Gosselin,
• 2:15:05
  the hemp paste guy.
• 2:15:07
  Unknown: Oh, really?
• 2:15:09
  Unknown: Okay. The one that sent me.
• 2:15:12
  He's never sent me anything political or status
• 2:15:16
  citizenship or anything like that before. He came across the third hour. He said there's something here, and he sent me the link.
• 2:15:23
  And I actually clicked on it and listened,
• 2:15:25
  and that
• 2:15:27
  was history.
• 2:15:28
  Unknown: That's amazing. I did not know that as Paul Harvey would say the other part of the story.
• 2:15:34
  Yeah. That's interesting. Yes. I ask people sometimes or people, Terry, Dave Dave was on a minute ago. His brother Gary
• 2:15:41
  says called in here when he used to could. He said, man, I was praying. I was praying for somebody to send me some truth, and your video showed up on my desktop.
• 2:15:51
  I I've had a couple other people say that too. So
• 2:15:55
  I that's why I say this is a divine
• 2:15:58
  project. That's why I got so upset about this.
• 2:16:01
  And we're here. We're right at the edge of these unbelievable times. Truly biblical. I mean, it's truly biblical times we're in. We've got this devastating
• 2:16:12
  message
• 2:16:13
  to our enemy and unbelievably
• 2:16:16
  beneficial
• 2:16:17
  to our brothers and sisters.
• 2:16:19
  And we're right on the cusp of possibly breaking this to huge multitudes.
• 2:16:24
  We're trying to get the whole thing moved
• 2:16:27
  from one state to another where it's safer,
• 2:16:30
  where he's surrounded with other people. We had Beth from Tulsa call in the other day, surrounded by other people that are close, Oklahoma City, Mark,
• 2:16:41
  other folks down there right next to really, really high speed trunk truncated Internet lines that just tap right into the vein of it and all that, and Paul could be there himself in a little town, you wanna stand in the way of that for some personal stuff?
• 2:17:00
  Oh, no.
• 2:17:01
  Unknown: The whole town the whole town, every every inch of the town is wired with high speed fiber optic. I'm talking gigabit
• 2:17:10
  Ethernet,
• 2:17:11
  Internet access,
• 2:17:13
  and and
• 2:17:15
  the whole town fits in a footprint of a 154
• 2:17:18
  acres. So
• 2:17:21
  Unknown: well, it's just the it's just the the the
• 2:17:24
  necessity
• 2:17:25
  of it dwarfs
• 2:17:27
  the
• 2:17:28
  obstacle here,
• 2:17:30
  and it just
• 2:17:31
  shows a person's intent
• 2:17:35
  of what she was doing. You know, there's a great saying here, Paul. It's somewhat applicable
• 2:17:41
  and says money
• 2:17:43
  doesn't give a man class,
• 2:17:47
  but it sure
• 2:17:48
  exposes it.
• 2:17:51
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 2:17:52
  Unknown: Oh, Roger. Okay. There's a scripture. The
• 2:17:57
  scripture says, a man's enemies will be those of his own household.
• 2:18:02
  Unknown: So this is not a new thing. No. It's not. No. And I know that. I consider us a family too, Chris. So that's the way I looked at it. I'm sorry to spank her, but
• 2:18:11
  you you wanna break the house rules? You can go off and
• 2:18:15
  make your own. K? It'll be okay. You're gonna make decisions
• 2:18:20
  you're gonna make decisions that affect potentially everybody,
• 2:18:24
  then you're gonna do it outside of the parameters of what we do here.
• 2:18:29
  Unknown: Right. It's gonna be better. Don't worry.
• 2:18:32
  Unknown: Okay.
• 2:18:33
  Well, I don't I just know it had to be done.
• 2:18:35
  So anyway Yes, it did. I
• 2:18:38
  Unknown: actually heard
• 2:18:40
  I actually heard from somebody a few years ago
• 2:18:43
  that tried
• 2:18:45
  to
• 2:18:46
  get in to the Telegram group and
• 2:18:49
  Mirko reached out to them
• 2:18:52
  and gave them the questionnaire, the questions and answers, all this, basically the third degree.
• 2:18:58
  How that person still refers to that interaction
• 2:19:03
  today
• 2:19:04
  is
• 2:19:05
  she tried
• 2:19:06
  to
• 2:19:07
  lure him to the dark side.
• 2:19:12
  It's hilariously funny.
• 2:19:15
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:19:16
  you know, it's unusual because it's so counterintuitive
• 2:19:19
  to where we are and what we do.
• 2:19:21
  The people that we initially contact, we'd send over there,
• 2:19:25
  they're real apprehensive about giving out all that per what do they what do you mean you want all this personal information?
• 2:19:32
  No. I understand. Well, how Mark is using it,
• 2:19:35
  but her instincts are just all
• 2:19:38
  uber maternal
• 2:19:40
  and opposite wrong in this whole thing.
• 2:19:44
  K?
• 2:19:45
  And the fact that she wants to hinder and block, and we wanna open and expand.
• 2:19:50
  And so I'm sorry. Those two can't work together, at least not on my platform.
• 2:19:55
  And as especially
• 2:19:57
  when it's my students and I call you personally
• 2:20:01
  to request that.
• 2:20:04
  No. Sorry.
• 2:20:05
  Unknown: I I think she's hyper some again. She's
• 2:20:09
  she's hyper fearful
• 2:20:10
  of the group being infiltrated
• 2:20:13
  by either government or dissenters or whatever. Well, she or Rick David
• 2:20:19
  Unknown: Strait students. We see my opinion of this is that our information can stand up. How's somebody gonna come in and feed our book people bullshit?
• 2:20:29
  We got the whole truth. We are a steel, tarp as a steel. We anybody I'd like to see people subjected to that kind of stuff so they can recognize it and tell them how full of shit they are and why.
• 2:20:43
  Yep. As opposed to that's why I said, smother mother
• 2:20:47
  is what the the kind of actions I see here. Regardless,
• 2:20:52
  we've talked about it for two and a half hours. I've I feel much better. Hey, Roger. I mean, it literally almost kept me up at at awake last night. Yes. I think that's Nancy.
• 2:21:03
  Unknown: Yeah. I put a little comment in,
• 2:21:06
  the chat. Have you reached out to Dave and Kay to ask them to put some notice on their website? They have huge reach, and it's a public
• 2:21:14
  page, whereas Mercos is a private channel.
• 2:21:17
  Unknown: I haven't yet, but I did mention it during my rant that that to steer people over there and that that will be our main base of of of sending people for answers and that they may take up what she had, basically, a chat type room if Kay wants to and they got the time and incorporated in over there.
• 2:21:39
  Okay? I don't know. It it's just it's
• 2:21:42
  all brand new. I hadn't touched base with them. We'll see how it goes. I'm surprised they're not listening. Maybe they'll respond after hearing today. Okay? Just in in keeping with the principles of freedom and individual choice
• 2:21:57
  Unknown: Yes, ma'am. Which I I'm I'm not hearing here. And when you use the term fiduciary,
• 2:22:02
  I I
• 2:22:04
  has money exchanged hands here? What fiduciary Well, trust trust
• 2:22:09
  Unknown: did. Yes. Trust did. It's a relationship where I've got these people that I've found, and I'm handing them off for somebody to take good care of them and inform them on important things, answer their questions,
• 2:22:22
  and that's not being done here. So, yes, I do consider it a fiduciary relationship
• 2:22:27
  if only think rather representation.
• 2:22:32
  Unknown: Barca has the right
• 2:22:35
  to run
• 2:22:36
  her channel
• 2:22:38
  Yes. The way that she does. Right? I agree. So I wish you could acknowledge that you know so I think you are scapegoating her.
• 2:22:46
  Success and Paul's success is not dependent upon Mirka and her telegram channel. Listen, I don't necessarily go over to the telegram channel
• 2:22:56
  that much. I have been there and it's useful.
• 2:23:00
  It's a resource,
• 2:23:01
  but why do
• 2:23:03
  you're you're a blow I think you are personally blowing this out of proportion
• 2:23:07
  and the terms divide and conquer. You
• 2:23:11
  Unknown: may want to reflect on that. What I've spent half of my life what I've spent half of my adult life working up, understanding, and putting out there, and she refuses
• 2:23:22
  to make one statement to the group that I've sent her. You think that I'm out of line? You're out of line.
• 2:23:30
  Unknown: Lonesome has proportion.
• 2:23:31
  Unknown: Well, I may be. I may be, but no. She instigated it, and it's done. The decision's made. You can you and I have serious disagreements
• 2:23:42
  on a lot of things, Nancy, and I just think you're totally off base here. I care about the group That's fine. As a team.
• 2:23:49
  Constantly say
• 2:23:51
  we're a team. I constantly
• 2:23:54
  say it's not individuals.
• 2:23:56
  She knows that. She's heard that.
• 2:23:58
  That's the statement of what we do here. Yes, May I?
• 2:24:02
  Unknown: Okay. How are doing? Hanging. Hanging. Hanging. Well, I I find it distressing to see this viciousness.
• 2:24:12
  It's unnecessary, and it plays into the hands of our enemy. I I can I consider it to be sabotaged from within?
• 2:24:20
  Unknown: I don't see it like you do at all. I see her impeding
• 2:24:24
  instead of helping. That's
• 2:24:27
  counterproductive.
• 2:24:28
  And you may not take it seriously,
• 2:24:31
  but I do. Okay.
• 2:24:34
  Unknown: Okay? Alright. Let me let wanna address me? Yes, please.
• 2:24:40
  Unknown: Let me let me address one thing.
• 2:24:44
  On the website,
• 2:24:46
  the verbiage, the language
• 2:24:49
  that
• 2:24:52
  was used
• 2:24:53
  as the requisite
• 2:24:56
  for how any offshoots
• 2:24:58
  or
• 2:24:59
  associative connections
• 2:25:01
  to the website,
• 2:25:03
  the requisite was set in stone
• 2:25:06
  when the telegram channel was created,
• 2:25:09
  and that is
• 2:25:11
  the information presented on this website
• 2:25:13
  is true and correct to the best of our knowledge and should be
• 2:25:17
  used at your own risk,
• 2:25:19
  considered open source,
• 2:25:22
  used for personal and non commercial purposes only,
• 2:25:26
  and freely distributed
• 2:25:28
  without cost or limitation.
• 2:25:32
  For freedom seekers, here is the origin and remedy of the matrix.
• 2:25:38
  That spirit behind that
• 2:25:42
  prominent paragraph
• 2:25:45
  was in place prior to her telegram group being created.
• 2:25:51
  And her telegram group was not created in the same spirit
• 2:25:55
  of free distribution without cost or limitation.
• 2:26:01
  She was the one that didn't play by the rules. She's been doing it for over four years now,
• 2:26:06
  so
• 2:26:07
  whatever.
• 2:26:08
  Finally came to play. Coming.
• 2:26:11
  Unknown: Sorry. Roger.
• 2:26:13
  Unknown: I think you're Larry. It's self defeating what you're doing. Okay. Well, Anyway Nancy,
• 2:26:18
  Unknown: can I tell you, can I respond to that? You can think whatever you want. It's alright with me. I've got this is my ship. My life's in it, and I run it the best I can for the benefit of everybody that's not only on board that that this information
• 2:26:34
  may touch.
• 2:26:35
  Should we get through this?
• 2:26:37
  And her help or her calendar help. Hi, old Roger. Thank you very much. Goodbye. Well, you're very welcome. I'll see you later. You can think that way if you want. You can take that same female
• 2:26:49
  bullshit emotional crap and standing way in front of the people and what we're trying to achieve here should you want to. Okay? But I will not allow it to happen.
• 2:27:03
  Yes. Pardon me, sir.
• 2:27:05
  Larry, you were trying say something.
• 2:27:08
  Unknown: Yeah. So to answer Nancy,
• 2:27:10
  you are correct in using the word fiduciary.
• 2:27:12
  Bullshit. Fiduciary relationship
• 2:27:15
  means
• 2:27:16
  trust,
• 2:27:17
  loyalty,
• 2:27:18
  and good faith, and does not always involve money. It applies whenever one person
• 2:27:23
  must Yeah, Nancy. Strictly for
• 2:27:26
  the benefit of another person.
• 2:27:29
  Unknown: And when I send people over for her to nurture, there's a fiduciary relationship.
• 2:27:35
  Whether it's stated or not, it's implied.
• 2:27:38
  So your points of view
• 2:27:40
  evidently aren't very guided and bounded, are they?
• 2:27:44
  They're emotional
• 2:27:46
  and whimsical.
• 2:27:48
  Unknown: All have things to learn, Raj. To learn, Raj. Roger.
• 2:27:57
  Unknown: Go ahead.
• 2:27:59
  Unknown: This is Victor. Good morning.
• 2:28:01
  Unknown: Hey, Victor. Good morning to you. You
• 2:28:06
  Unknown: asked if somebody would
• 2:28:08
  speak up in defense of America.
• 2:28:11
  Unknown: Right? No. I didn't. I don't think she's got a defense.
• 2:28:15
  Unknown: No. You asked earlier. I remember.
• 2:28:18
  So
• 2:28:19
  let me just tell you what I know
• 2:28:22
  about being on that channel.
• 2:28:25
  She always says
• 2:28:27
  she doesn't want any other information
• 2:28:29
  than what Roger's putting out.
• 2:28:31
  Yes, sir. She has been
• 2:28:34
  she's been standing up for you
• 2:28:36
  Unknown: since I've been with her. That's what makes that's what makes this exceptionally
• 2:28:41
  hard, Victor.
• 2:28:44
  Unknown: I understand it is hard, but listen.
• 2:28:47
  You know, I recently learned that it's up to me. I can't control the other person's actions, but I can control my own. So I can
• 2:28:55
  Yeah. Have my own energy, and they can have their energy. Right? Uh-huh. Yeah. So I do believe that there's good I do believe there's good intention is what I'm saying.
• 2:29:05
  And other people have had issues,
• 2:29:07
  problems,
• 2:29:08
  going down the wrong path, and she's trying to protect people is the stance that I get.
• 2:29:13
  Unknown: I under I I understand. I think she's trying to overprotect
• 2:29:17
  them is maybe a better way of describing it, but go right ahead.
• 2:29:22
  Unknown: Well, I can tell you that
• 2:29:24
  I've learned from the very beginning that you couldn't screen
• 2:29:28
  things and you couldn't save documents. You couldn't you know, I I know about the lockdown. Believe me.
• 2:29:35
  And with that,
• 2:29:37
  I believe that
• 2:29:39
  she will probably come out and apologize and realize that she made a mistake and things will get better. Her
• 2:29:45
  Unknown: answer was, look. I've got this bitch with Paul. But for this one time, I'll do it. And then I would have said, if you and him straighten this out.
• 2:29:57
  Because whatever is at the root of this, it's been causing problems
• 2:30:02
  around here for years.
• 2:30:05
  And I'm just tired of it. And it appears that the only way to get rid of the problem because of her
• 2:30:12
  characteristics are to just separate from her.
• 2:30:16
  Unknown: I I would say don't throw away the water with the bathwater or whatever. However that saying goes, don't don't just give up is what I'm saying. There's a lot of good positive also.
• 2:30:27
  Okay?
• 2:30:28
  Unknown: And Well, I'm good. I said I'm sorry it happened.
• 2:30:31
  I okay. I'm just I'll never send another person to Mirka for for counseling or anything else. Even though she's that dedicated about teaching my stuff, she takes it too far.
• 2:30:44
  She takes her overprotection
• 2:30:46
  too far. I don't want people protected
• 2:30:49
  from
• 2:30:50
  the information.
• 2:30:51
  I want them to be able to see the bullshit
• 2:30:54
  of the other ones.
• 2:30:57
  Unknown: Understood.
• 2:30:58
  I can tell you from personal experience
• 2:31:00
  that she helped me greatly from my very beginning doing my affidavit and my notices. And
• 2:31:08
  Unknown: Okay. But the the whole goal is for this message
• 2:31:13
  Unknown: The whole goal is for this message to reach the masses.
• 2:31:16
  Unknown: Yes. That's exactly correct. And she's standing in the way of it.
• 2:31:22
  Unknown: Well, maybe she won't be standing in way forever.
• 2:31:25
  Unknown: I say that? Yield.
• 2:31:27
  Unknown: No.
• 2:31:27
  Victor, I Victor, I wanna address you, and I and I appreciate
• 2:31:32
  you coming out here and talking about this because that is what this is all about. This is about
• 2:31:37
  having as many channels and as much reach and connection
• 2:31:41
  to the general public, to the masses as we can possibly get.
• 2:31:46
  What Merca doesn't understand
• 2:31:49
  is
• 2:31:50
  that
• 2:31:51
  by locking down her channel
• 2:31:55
  and not allowing people to share
• 2:31:59
  things
• 2:32:00
  from her channel,
• 2:32:03
  she is standing in her own way.
• 2:32:06
  Now most telegram groups
• 2:32:09
  grow because
• 2:32:11
  some person comes across a group accidentally
• 2:32:14
  and they see one post on that
• 2:32:17
  and they share that post
• 2:32:20
  and they share that to all of the groups that they're in.
• 2:32:25
  Okay?
• 2:32:27
  But
• 2:32:28
  when you cannot share a post from
• 2:32:31
  national status freedom
• 2:32:34
  to a person,
• 2:32:35
  to their list of groups,
• 2:32:37
  you're interfering
• 2:32:39
  with what makes Telegram
• 2:32:41
  outstanding,
• 2:32:43
  is because you go to Telegram, you find a post,
• 2:32:47
  you say that's really good, you share that, and then everybody that you shared it to, when they click on it,
• 2:32:55
  they don't see it in your feed,
• 2:32:57
  they are directed to National Status Freedom with a prominent button at the bottom that says join group.
• 2:33:05
  We're all about growth.
• 2:33:07
  We're about expansion
• 2:33:08
  and getting the information out.
• 2:33:11
  By not allowing people to save the information or share the posts,
• 2:33:16
  she is shooting herself in the foot.
• 2:33:19
  Had she had that group open
• 2:33:22
  four years ago,
• 2:33:24
  she would have tens of thousands
• 2:33:27
  of people
• 2:33:28
  by now.
• 2:33:30
  I mean there are telegram groups that have only been around two or three months, they already have a couple of thousand members,
• 2:33:37
  four or five times the number that Mirka has. She just doesn't understand that her heavy handed management of the group is actually
• 2:33:45
  interfering with her own success
• 2:33:48
  as well as that of the Radio Ranch.
• 2:33:51
  And I tried to point that out to her
• 2:33:54
  and she thought I was telling her how to do her thing
• 2:33:57
  and we had this rift
• 2:34:00
  and all that and it was just nothing but petty crap, so I
• 2:34:05
  went
• 2:34:05
  the other direction,
• 2:34:08
  and I created another telegram group. Now I will because I have control of the website.
• 2:34:14
  We don't have to
• 2:34:17
  direct people
• 2:34:18
  to Mirka's telegram group on the air, but
• 2:34:22
  because
• 2:34:24
  the things she's doing is similar to what we're doing, I will leave the small link
• 2:34:30
  to her telegram group on our website. I'll leave it there
• 2:34:35
  because
• 2:34:36
  I want her to succeed.
• 2:34:38
  I want us to succeed
• 2:34:40
  and
• 2:34:41
  somehow find a way to put all this shit
• 2:34:44
  behind us.
• 2:34:45
  Unknown: That's what I'm about. Thank you. It'd be nice. K?
• 2:34:49
  Okay. But just don't let your personal political
• 2:34:52
  bickering
• 2:34:54
  get in the way of the big picture. Is that too much to ask?
• 2:34:58
  That's all I'm I
• 2:35:01
  wanna respond if your lady cuts in there. Nancy, that's all I'm asking. Don't let your personal,
• 2:35:07
  emotional,
• 2:35:08
  female oriented crap
• 2:35:10
  get in the way of the big picture here.
• 2:35:13
  I won't stand for it. Right. I don't think that's too much to ask. Yes. Who's who's trying to say something? Roger.
• 2:35:20
  Unknown: Roger, I think that you I think that you have expressed
• 2:35:23
  your dissatisfaction
• 2:35:27
  succinctly,
• 2:35:28
  and we all understand.
• 2:35:30
  So now
• 2:35:32
  I think that we should just
• 2:35:34
  understand
• 2:35:36
  that I'm sure that Mirka will hear about this if she's not listening. Hold on. She'll probably listen. I will I'll welcome her to.
• 2:35:44
  Unknown: But see, I don't even think she's got a defense,
• 2:35:47
  Victor.
• 2:35:49
  Somebody Julie wrote me, said last night, I'm in the middle of this. I said, there ain't no middle to this.
• 2:35:57
  Yeah. There's a yes or no. You know,
• 2:36:01
  Unknown: Roger. I think you know what I'm saying to you.
• 2:36:04
  But the whole goal is to spread this message because we know how frustrating it is to try to approach. Or trying I try to approach people. Absolutely. Give them flyers.
• 2:36:15
  Give a give them flyers.
• 2:36:17
  Give them cards.
• 2:36:19
  Tell them who and what a national is. Have you ever met a national? And it's almost impossible.
• 2:36:26
  So that's why I say
• 2:36:29
  billboards at every major airport if we could get together and not have all this We can't even get Paul moved to Oklahoma,
• 2:36:37
  Unknown: Victor.
• 2:36:40
  Unknown: Roger. Oh, I think I think we can handle that. No problem. But
• 2:36:44
  Unknown: I'm gonna say that last thing there is that I'm on board
• 2:36:47
  and that for people who make mistakes, then we just need to move forward and I yield.
• 2:36:52
  Unknown: Okay. Thank you. Roger, thank you, Jesse. I got an email from a guy that's a real prick going, why don't you sell some of your gold, asshole? I already contributed
• 2:37:01
  over $1,500
• 2:37:03
  $1,500 out of my house. Big boy. What have you done? Just sit here and leech information
• 2:37:09
  that you never have paid for for five or six or more years?
• 2:37:14
  Now who else has got something to say?
• 2:37:17
  Roger.
• 2:37:20
  Yes.
• 2:37:21
  Unknown: And Jesse.
• 2:37:23
  Hey, Jesse. Most people don't most people don't see the big picture.
• 2:37:27
  You know, you give two ounces of gold every every two hours. Paul also does the same thing after hours all the time.
• 2:37:33
  And
• 2:37:35
  no most people don't measure this. No. Between you and Paul and other individual, Larry gives it gives all his time many times after hours, and I know that. Yes, he does. And, you know, the problem with the the problem with the telegram or the America is it's not open source.
• 2:37:52
  When you wanna spread something, an app or something like Libri Office, it's open source. Everybody contributes to that and then learn from that and add something to it. So when you're in this situation,
• 2:38:04
  most people don't understand. They only see the tree in front of them instead of the whole forest,
• 2:38:08
  and it's really hard for that. And once newcomers doesn't understand that
• 2:38:13
  this has been happening for years,
• 2:38:15
  and
• 2:38:16
  sometimes you wanna solve this problem behind the stage without coming here in the in public forum, and the individual doesn't wanna come and talk if after hours or after the show and try to solve the thing, you know, good maturity,
• 2:38:29
  grown old people come together
• 2:38:32
  and talk about these things and not bring it in front of the public. But once it happens, you have no choice but to say the truth there.
• 2:38:39
  And that's what I I see here. There's a lot of immature people including here right now. And when you come out and try to create division by saying that Roger or anybody else, that's not what's happening.
• 2:38:51
  You get frustrated
• 2:38:52
  because of your own. Who who frustrates you the most? It's your own family, your own daughter, your own son, your own father when you're trying to get something across and they just don't get it. And that's why it hurts so much because that this truth is really hard to put it out. It's it's taking you almost thirty, forty years. And you said, how how do we come up to this information?
• 2:39:13
  How do we wake up? This by a million little things happen during our life. A million things.
• 2:39:20
  You wake up in this little thing and this and this, and when you start putting everything together, this is what you understand. And Paul just mentioned some sometimes you're crossing or looking for something, you tap a link,
• 2:39:30
  and and then you hey. Here's here's Telegram.
• 2:39:33
  And that's the problem. We cannot have this closure. And I'll finish with this. When I was in Miami many years ago, the one of the one of the activists
• 2:39:43
  that were trying to liberate Cuba and all this, and they're usually the older older generation that came in the fifties, he says, the problem with with Cuba
• 2:39:51
  and its media, they do not let us give fifteen minutes in television.
• 2:39:57
  And the opposite view of ideology and what freedom and capitalism
• 2:40:01
  real capitalism is. Fifty minutes. Because as soon as you have fifteen minutes, it will devastate the other side. And what did mister Castro do?
• 2:40:10
  He closed up everything. He never let anybody
• 2:40:13
  anybody speak out. So that's what I see with, Mirka's telegram. It's not that she has not contributed and she has not helped individually to certain people. It's just that she is enclosed, and you just say something correctly.
• 2:40:26
  She's suffocating
• 2:40:28
  their own people and the people that wants to learn and get some of those information that's locked in. Right now, if I wanna get it in, I can't get it.
• 2:40:35
  That's not right,
• 2:40:37
  especially. That's that's my say. That's my rant.
• 2:40:40
  Unknown: Okay, Jesse. Who else?
• 2:40:42
  Belly up. Now's the time to do it.
• 2:40:47
  Okay. Again, apologize.
• 2:40:49
  I like Mirka.
• 2:40:50
  Mirka's contributed around here. I don't disparage
• 2:40:54
  any of that.
• 2:40:56
  Okay?
• 2:40:57
  But I will not let her or anybody else with their petty damn bullshit
• 2:41:05
  reasons and and political battles stand in the way of the progress of the big picture here.
• 2:41:12
  I'm just not gonna let it happen. And and if you think I'm gonna, then you gotta you gotta real bad opinion of me that's very misfounded because I care about the project, where we go,
• 2:41:23
  freedom, and everybody else. Okay? And I'm not gonna have people obstruct you, and that's in essence what Mirka did. She's got an inside position. She's got a fiduciary relationship
• 2:41:35
  where I send her people that includes informing them of important things.
• 2:41:41
  I personally
• 2:41:42
  contacted
• 2:41:44
  her and asked her to do this, and she refused.
• 2:41:48
  You
• 2:41:49
  think that's alright?
• 2:41:50
  You think I'm out of kilter?
• 2:41:52
  Well, you I think you got your perspective wrong. K?
• 2:41:57
  I'll see you tomorrow with Brent, hopefully. If you don't wanna have anything to do with me, I don't care. We'll find somebody else.
• 2:42:04
  Have a nice day.
• 2:42:07
  Unknown: And this is precisely why I didn't wanna push this issue years ago.
• 2:42:12
  Maybe I should've. It wouldn't have blown up quite as big. But
• 2:42:16
  anyway,
• 2:42:17
  I
• 2:42:18
  am
• 2:42:20
  really,
• 2:42:21
  really pressed for time today and I have a bunch of stuff that I have to do and accomplish and
• 2:42:27
  probably not going to be taking
• 2:42:30
  part in the Paul English live program today,
• 2:42:33
  but I will still stream it and I will still make the room available and connect everybody to it. So
• 2:42:41
  this has been the Radio Ranch with Roger Sales on eurofolkradio.com,
• 2:42:47
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• 2:42:49
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• 2:42:53
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• 2:42:55
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• 2:42:58
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• 2:43:02
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• 2:43:05
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• 2:43:12
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• 2:43:13
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• 2:43:17
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• 2:43:19
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• 2:43:23
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• 2:43:29
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• 2:43:39
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• 2:43:40
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• 2:43:45
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• 2:43:51
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.