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Big Pharma = DoD & DARPA... We’re at War Against Corporate Cartels — Jeffrey Prather Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. You know that I talk a lot about the fact that I believe that we are at war. And when you look at the fact that we are at war, if that's what you believe, a lot of questions arise. Well, who are fighting against?
• 1:51
  What's their strategy? What's their endgame? How can we fight back against the people? I think that there's been a lot of confusion here in America, especially because even question number one, you're at war. Well, who are at war against?
• 2:03
  Are we at war against the patriots? Are we at war against the liberals? Are we at war against Antifa? Are we at war against Putin? Are we at war against the CCP, the globalist, Klaus Schwab, the Biden administration?
• 2:14
  There's all these questions that arise. And so joining us today is Jeffrey Prather. And so he's someone that has an extensive history with within special operations, within drug enforcement. He spent a lot of his career down on the various borders in South America, heavily involved with combating the cartels, and he's just someone that has an incredibly broad perspective because he's not just someone that comes in and simplifies it and talks only about the cartel the cartels. He's going into the corporations, he's going to the CCP, the globalist, the Committee of three hundred, because I think that it's really, really important for us to align our compass in the right direction in terms of what we're even up against.
• 2:59
  But he also has some really interesting and I think insightful perspectives on where America is at, especially where America is at compared to the Roman Empire. And not just the fall of the Roman Empire, but also the rebuilding of what was next. And that's an important part of the discussion that we're gonna be having today. So folks, enjoy this interview with Jeffrey Prather. So Jeffrey Prather, it is such an honor to have you.
• 3:24
  Thank you so much for joining us on the show today.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me.
• 3:29
  Seth Holehouse: So I know you've worked in a variety of capacities in intelligence and within a lot of different things, I think that really give a lot of background to what you're talking about. So can you just, you know, because it's your first time coming on the show, give us just that quick walkthrough just of the kind of the key highlights of what you've done in the past that I think frame your worldview today.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first off, I come out of an orphanage, I was adopted. So I'm really blessed in that regard. I went into the army. I was commissioned in 1984 as an army military intelligence officer. Because I was already airborne qualified, I went right to Fort Bragg to Special Operations Command.
• 4:11
  I served psychological operations. In fact, I commanded an airborne operational detachment, which would attach to army special forces, green berets, and rangers, which sent me to, Central America, more specifically Honduras and Nicaragua, which brought me up close with the Contras. I ended up working a lot of Contra projects, and I saw, very quickly the, Ali North, debacle that developed the Clinton cartel of death through the CIA cocaine contra cabal. And so I saw that go wrong. I actually was working inside a deep tunnel inside of Panama in plainclothes for nine months, and I had to cut my hair, put on my class A's in Green Beret and go sit behind the Sox South commander who was briefing the new SOXCOM sink.
• 5:03
  They don't have sinks now, but they did. And, the question was, are we going to go before Congress like Ali North? And the answer was no, we're doing everything legally. We're doing order of battle, in preparation. But I saw that at the same time, was over at Fort Sherman at the Jungle School and there was another Operative Detachment A team training a bunch of long haired guys.
• 5:24
  I knew the captain. I was a young captain. Went on there. I thought it was CIA. It turned out to be DEA.
• 5:29
  DEA had a operation snowcap program where they would train DEA special agents, who are like FBI agents, and send them to host country Central and South American paramilitary, military and police counter drug organizations. So I was a Spanish speaking military intelligence officer with special forces. DEA snapped me up. I left active duty as a captain, went to, the FBI Academy because at the time, the DEA, Basic Agent School was inside the FBI Academy. DEA and FBI were always going to be rolled into one where everybody else went to Glencoe to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
• 6:10
  DEA and FBI always had a special relationship. And I became a DEA eighteen eleven special agent in 1990. I stayed in the reserves and I was recruited into the Defense Intelligence Agency. And I had worked previously in some special operations activities. And so I was dual credentialed as DEA special agent, a Fed and a DIA intelligence officer simultaneously.
• 6:40
  I then went to the Nogales, Arizona, Sonora border for ten years, but I would also go on operation snowcap deployments. And because I was, dual credential, I could do lots of different things under different hats legally. And I, in o three, I was called to active duty to, the DIA's counterterrorism organizational group, but I ended up running their global operations center, which took me to the White House, to the NSA situation center, the CIA, the FBI. And, while that happened, I had been extraditing the first Cinemark cartel leader, Miguel Carrapintero, brother of Rafael, who tortured and murdered our agent, Kiki Camarelli. It's a pretty famous incident.
• 7:30
  And it turns out that the CIA was there when that was happening and the government was in on it. So early on, saw that our government was running drugs via the Contras for the CIA. Then I discovered that the DEA, when I became a whistleblower fifteen years ago, was running drugs through the Sinaloa Cartel in exchange for the ATF guns going south. So I found out that our government was running guns and drugs. And then because I've done a bit of child rescue when Sound of Freedom came out and I have a similar career to Ballard, he was CIA, went to DHS, I was DIA, went to DEA, discovered through senior special agent FBI Ted Gunderson's work that the government was also running people and children.
• 8:19
  So I call that the dark economy of the deep state. And America's strength, its engine has been the middle class entrepreneurial small businessman, which has just made an incredible world economy through hard work and entrepreneurism and improvisation. But the dark economy, because the deep state or the intelligence community runs the government now, that's my premise, They have access to international channels through diplomatic channels. They can bring in anything. Like before 09:11, the FBI brought in the Israeli art students into the towers and tried to infiltrate DEA, they are able to run this dark economy.
• 9:09
  And the dark economy, what I call the dark economy, is people, drugs, and weapons. So Fast and Furious turned about turned out to be an international covert, gun running operation. Benghazi turned out to be an international covert gun running operation. Syria turned out to be an international gun running, operation. And Afghanistan was a massive gun running operation with drugs coming the other way, and Ukraine is that too as well.
• 9:38
  So that's what I try and, show, and I show intelligence, which is analyzed information and evidence, which is fact based truth that is presentable via sources and methods in court because I've done both of those. And that's what my shows are about.
• 9:56
  Seth Holehouse: So quite the rap sheet, might you say, I mean, what an impressive background, which is really helpful because there's a lot of people that have a lot of opinions on what's happening right now, but I really appreciate the opportunity to speak to folks like yourself who, have been on the ground and saw the underbelly of this. And so when you talk about this, as I was saying, the dark economy of the deep state, you know, lot of people they look at the US government and I think people like you and I and your listeners and probably my listeners, they see it differently now. But for a lot of the average Americans, they look at the government and think, okay, well, there's some corruption, maybe they're taking bribes, and there's a lot of lobbying from big pharma. And they that might be the extent of it, right? But from what, you know, you're talking about also through my own research, it's really much more like the government that we see is a facade.
• 10:45
  It's no, it's no more real than the puppets in a play, right? It's it's just to distract us and keep us focused on something that is keeping the attention off of this massive other infrastructure, which really, especially as you kind of put it, it really sounds like our country is being run by an international crime syndicate. And then they're and they're just putting the government out there, the the politicians, etc. Just as the, know, it's Plato's cave, It's the shadows in the wall to keep us distracted. I mean, is that is that really is it is it as bad as that that we're basically our world in many ways is being run by this giant conglomerate of criminals?
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. And I, you know, I didn't start out that way. Like most veterans, my dad was a World War II veteran and I wanted to emulate my dad, you know, and grew up with that patriotism. And, I had a good time in the military. Was Reagan, you know, so it was a buildup.
• 11:48
  And I didn't really understand all the issues. But then, really, for me, the changing point was when I was activated for the second Gulf War at DIA in 'three and 'four, and I was actually working with the guys who were looking for the WMD, which and I knew them and they're like, Nope, there's nothing there. And, at the same time, my informant was kind of left out in the wind. And so he went to sue administrator of the Drug Enforcement Administration. It's administration, not agency, by the way.
• 12:22
  And, you know, I went over, I had staff at the Pentagon. I went from the Pentagon over to DA Headquarters, which is across the street with Marshall's headquarters. I said, no, he can't sue Michelle Leonard, was the administrator back then for the $5,000,000 State Department reward. Here's what I've paid him. But by the way, she destroyed my case.
• 12:42
  And that's when they turned on me and came after me. And eventually I figured out because I eventually uncovered the fact that in the Niebuhle Zambada federal trial, DEA agents raised their hands under oath in Chicago and said, yes, we had a deal with the Sonoma cartel to run drugs north in exchange for the fast and furious guns going south. And, of course, the CIA has admitted that they were running drugs, for, the Contras. So for me, it was a gradual shock. And when I found out that there was a CIA guy there with a cover name of Max Gomez, when they were torturing our agent, former Marine and D agent Kika Kamarina to death, you know, I was even in tears.
• 13:26
  But I think that is the case. And I think that it is even worse, than people, imagine. And the deep state or double government, those are technical terms. Those aren't just flipping terms. The the double government is what you describe.
• 13:44
  It's the puppet masters behind the puppets, and the puppets are wearing out. The Harris and Fetterman and Biden are the or the what I call the Pito Joe or the doubles. The masks The masks are real. Clothes, I don't think are real. But masks have been in intelligence tradecraft for a long time.
• 14:01
  Doubles have been in for centuries. There's nothing unusual about any of that. But I think if you look at, for example, sir John Glubb's date of empires, they last about two fifty to two seventy five years before people figure out how they can corrupt them, how they can just rip them off. And I think we are there. And as a Christian chaplain as well, I'm looking at scripture, and, with the activation of Israel as a state in a day at the end of World War II, we are, there.
• 14:33
  So my intelligence, my my evidence from my special forces time, my personal experience, combined with history, and scripture, leads me to my, sad conclusions of where we are at.
• 14:51
  Seth Holehouse: And so, when we look around our country now, especially the past couple of years under Biden, and we're seeing the open border, the flooding across that military aged men, we're seeing, you know, what happened with all the vaccine mandates and how it was targeting our military, our first responders. You look at, and not just that, just going back to you know, Clinton and a lot of the crumbling of our manufacturing infrastructure that happened under him as so much was sent over to China. It almost, I mean, you pull these pieces together, and it looks like the perfect setup. You have this this this big enemy of the evil, right? You had The United States, and it's like they, it's almost like they've laid all the traps and they've got everything in place and they've weakened this thing until it's almost at the point where it's ready for the final blow.
• 15:34
  And they've been so calculated, calculative in how they've done that. And so with where we're at right now, especially as we're seeing again these these military age men flooding across the border and we're entering into another election year. Do you think that we're at the the that time period in that game plan where they are coming in for the final blow to try to cripple and destroy America like once and for all?
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Well, probably not in the way you're saying. So, as an intelligence officer, I like to, I want to give a good picture of the battle space. That's my job. And now I'm trying to be America's Intelligence Officer, and I'm also to triage and evaluate our enemies. And there's an array of enemies against us.
• 16:22
  There are nation state enemies, the primary one being China, in my view. There are non nation state criminal transnational cartels like the Sinovoa cartel I fought. There are corporate cartels like Pfizer and Moderna, as well, and they prey upon, those with weak moral structure that don't follow traditional American ethics, which is the definition of the Biden family. The Biden family's for sale for whoever pays them. And so the criminals are also traitors.
• 16:57
  It's not just one or the other. But I say that we are in World War four. It's already started. I say the global war on terror was World War three. I've got my service ribbon from that.
• 17:09
  So global means world. So I say World War IV, and I say it's already started. But for those of us who study war and our veterans, we use a template of generations of war. And so zero generation wars, everybody fights. That's like a war with ants.
• 17:26
  Third generation war is mostly what people think about when they think about war. It's kind of like World War II, the good war. No wars are good, but people think of that. And even if you look at Star Wars, Star Wars is really third generation kinetic war with lasers and spaceships. It really hasn't changed.
• 17:45
  But war changes with technology and civilization. I say that we are in a fourth generation legal, moral, ethical, and nonviolent resistance movement against our own government in our own country. And up until 2020, we had only lost fourth generation war. Somalia, Vietnam were a resistance movement. We were founded on a fourth generation war.
• 18:08
  But I say that we are fighting enemy who is using a fifth generation war. And the first rule of war is to know when you're in one. But fifth generation war is hard to even tell that you are in one, because it doesn't look like conventional war. So, if you go back to China Twenty Years ago, and they watched us win the first Gulf War super quickly, because we knew that the press would turn against us because in Vietnam, which was a fourth generation war, you're following if you're using my template, and a lot of people use this template, a lot of professionals. We won every battle, but we lost the war because Walter Cronkite came out and said, Tet Offensive is a great failure.
• 18:52
  Well, we stopped them cold at the Tet Offensive. We defeated there. So they went from unconventional war to conventional war, which is the final stage of unconventional war, and they failed completely. We won every battle. Lost the war because of the psychological operation, the information influence operation of the war.
• 19:10
  Therefore, in the first Gulf War, we know we've got to win fast, and we won so fast that the two air force colonels watching us win that war, because we always watch each other fight. Any major power deploys its guys to watch each other fight. And they watched the air force officers watched The US win so fast, and they concluded something that nobody in the world can take the American military on head on kinetically, nobody. And so they said, so we're not gonna do that. We're gonna take them on every way but kinetically and head on, but we are gonna avoid completely head on.
• 19:51
  And that's what they have executed. Unrestricted warfare, they have taken our economy, our manufacturing, our science, our medicine, our schools, everything. They have flanked us on every front except kinetically. Now they can at this point, our military is now a hollow force, but I don't think they need to do that. But so are we fighting a war with China?
• 20:18
  Yes. It's been going on for twenty years. In fact, professor Ping bragged that, they beat The United States in 2020 in a fifth generational conflict. So, I think we're in World War four, and we're, in a five g war with China, but there's other factors involved too. And just like you see, in war, there's lots of criminals and a lot of the criminals are in our own government, in our own industries.
• 20:47
  Seth Holehouse: And so, with that and looking at this, you know, this kind of spread of different enemies and looking at the fact that there's multiple, I think it's really important point because I find that folks a lot of times want to simplify it and think that there's just this one deep state and that, you know, whether it's the China or the cartels or everything's being controlled by this centralized kind of tip of the pyramid, and that that's who the enemy is. But I'm much more of the belief that it's it's almost like there's different crime families all fighting over the territory of The United States, and they all independently want to bring The United States down. And sometimes they're going to work together to use each other, but at the end of the day, they're going to be looking out for their own interest. And so, you know, in that, so I want to kind of expand that and get your perspective on that. You know, you mentioned a few of the different enemies were up against the cartels, the CCP, etc.
• 21:40
  With the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, especially going back to their, you know, unrestricted warfare, going back to the, you know, General Chi Hao Chen's speech about the need to take over the the landmass of America. And then just the overall the the fight that they've been waging against us. And then the fact that we see, instance, just just recently came out that, you know, Biden, Hunter Biden took I think a quarter million dollars in bank wires from China that was, the recipient address was Joe Biden. I mean, that's just the tip of the iceberg, think, in the amount of payoffs that family has received from the CCP. What what level or how would you position the CCP as the the enemy of America versus say, the World Economic Forum or the UN or some of the more globalist organizations where I find that a lot of focus tends to go towards those as you know, those organizations instead of, I think being very sober about the role the CCP is also playing.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I no. I agree with your assessment. I think people wanna simplify it down because they watch movies and they want a simple movie plot, and it's not like that. As a seal commander told me early on in the Afghan war, there are bad bad guys, bad good guys, good bad guys, and bad bad guys, and that changes according to, what they want weekly. And you've got to kind of look at it, like that.
• 23:02
  You always want to look at motive. So the strategy of unrestricted warfare, I think, was executed by the Thousand Talents program. And the Thousand Talents program was a genius over, recruitment program. Instead of investing a whole lot in agents, you just send everybody over there. You've got the hostages held in China and you just flood.
• 23:27
  I think it's been very successful. And that's where we saw early on years back, we saw female Chinese soldiers up in Canada training unarmed. And in my view, they were to infiltrate, to approach people like Swalwell, to approach people like Lieber, which is exactly what they did, seduce them and then own them and then control them. And that's what has happened with Hunter, as well. So the unrestricted warfare was executed by the thousand talents program through we were infiltrated through espionage and our our inflection points of our Department of Justice, which is our supposed to be our internal protection and the DOD, which is supposed to be our external protection, protection have been infiltrated, sabotaged.
• 24:16
  So espionage and sabotage has infiltrated and interdicted us. And the latest story about that is this FBI, FCI, foreign counterintelligence guy. If you've seen the movie Bridge of Spies, it's a very accurate movie. And the FBI, Foreign Counterintelligence Element, which was Peter Strzok, by the way, are they're supposed to follow around the Russians, follow around the Chinese, especially New York. And this guy was the head of the New York division, and he was taking money from a false flag Albanian who was working for the Chinese.
• 24:53
  So we call that espionage. And that's why counterintelligence guys go crazy because they don't when they're gonna recruit you, they don't say, hey, I'm a Chinese guy. They like, I'm I'm a Canadian or I'm a third country that's neutral. And, you know, what do you think about this? And and so that's what I think has happened with China.
• 25:12
  The military age fighting men, they are certainly military age fighting men and soldiers and Chinese special operations troops infiltrating our country by a variety of means. The Southern border, which I've worked extensively, and I've worked from the Arizona Mexican border down to the Mexican Guatemala border on down to Panama, Bolivia, Chile. I've worked at all in DEA and DIA, both simultaneously. We are certainly being infiltrated.
• 25:40
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
• 25:55
  Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2,023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
• 26:12
  So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930, right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold.
• 26:28
  So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
• 26:54
  Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
• 27:16
  It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around.
• 27:55
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• 28:19
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• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But then you gotta look at what the Chinese want. Now the Chinese have said that they are gonna wage a war. They're intercept communications, and some of those communications are unclear whether they're talking about China or America, but China has everything they want now. They've gotten president Trump out of the way, and so they've gone back to better than parity that they had, before. It's better, but the Chinese have a problem.
• 29:15
  They cannot feed themselves. They they cannot close themselves. There's there are, riots all the time. In a hundred years, because of their one child policy that they now revoked, they're going to die off. China is dying in the next century.
• 29:31
  So, their war talk may be just directed at Taiwan, or it may be directed, at America because that's what's going on in Ukraine. Ukraine is a war. People are dying, but it's a managed war, and it's a distant war. But I think that the the Chinese troops that are coming in are to manage the other illegals that are coming in to work the fields to supply the food, and the special operations troops are there to take nodes of communication and logistics, which are trains, trucks and container ships, which they almost already control all of those anyway, so that they can continue to feed their population. I don't think they'd wanna I don't think you're gonna see a Red Dawn, you know, paratroopers at schools out in Wyoming.
• 30:23
  Paratroopers are scarce resources. You only put paratroopers where you gotta have. I was a paratrooper. You put them on bridges just like at Market Garden, or rather Operation Overlord is they took at D Day, they they jumped in to take key positions. Well, was kinetic.
• 30:42
  They don't need to do that now. They've infiltrated them, and I think they're there to take they're there to keep key kinetic logistic positions open while the regular troops work the other illegals that are flown in that are going to work the fields. That's my take on where the Chinese are.
• 30:59
  Seth Holehouse: And so with what's happening on the border in terms of just the the cartels, the human trafficking, the drug trafficking, the fentanyl, how much control or what level of involvement do you think the CCP has on especially the southern border?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I think the CCP has made deals with the transnational cartels that control big plazas of the border. So in my day, which, you know, I was fired in 02/2009 after nineteen years on the job with never being charged, never having a bad evaluation, a commandante who bought a plaza, a quarter on the border, paid a million dollars for it. And he brought in his own team. And then everybody that came across paid him a mortita, a little bite out. Now the cartels themselves control those corridors.
• 31:54
  So nobody comes across that doesn't pay the cartels. All those children are being raped. The women are being raped. They're all controlled. And I think that the Chinese have made deals, just like you said, with the, transnational cartels to use those quarters.
• 32:11
  It it it suits them to use those quarters. And the example of that is the fentanyl precursors come from China to the Western Coast Of Mexico and then are assembled there and then are transported north. But I think fentanyl is a bioweapon just to kill off the population, but the cartels run it as a drug. So you got to understand that transactional cartels are criminal organizations running drugs, weapons, and people. They want to make money.
• 32:45
  The Chinese are waging a fifth generation, biodigital war. And so I think the fentanyl is a bioweapon that is being purveyed as a drug because you see it in cocaine. It was even at the it was even at the service academy, which they're supposed to be you know, they're supposed to be our best and brightest. And there were last year, there were West Pointers that were taking cocaine that had fentanyl mixed in it. So I think right there, you see the mix of the criminal element, but the bioweapon element.
• 33:18
  I think that is good evidence of my assessment.
• 33:23
  Seth Holehouse: And so, where do you see the these European agencies and organizations fitting in, know, with the Agenda 2,030 and Klaus Schwab and their efforts to also collapse as I where do you see them kind of fitting into this overall? I mean, I mean, well, fundamentally, it feels like America is is absolutely at war, but we're at war with, you know, 10 different enemies all at once on 10 different fronts. Right? But where do you see these the globalist organizations fitting into this?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Well, a while back, I changed my perspective, my triage of enemies. So part of my job is to triage the enemies. Who is the biggest threat? And I had placed China as the biggest threat because I was thinking in terms of nation states. But one incident, changed my mind about that, and I triaged my priority to, the Global Cabal, the World Economic Forum, the Committee of three hundred, the Pilgrim Society, Club of Rome, you know, whatever you want to call them, Council of thirteen.
• 34:27
  But in my view, it is the five eyes or seven eyes, the international intelligence community, again, because they really run our Congress and they have access. There's nobody that can rein in the CIA and the FBI. And they're really the same thing. The FBI is not a law enforcement organization, as Garrett O'Boyle, the Army veteran from Afghanistan and FBI agent Whistleblower said. He said they're an intelligence organization with law enforcement functions, And they use those functions as a counterinsurgency against the resistance of the American people, while the CIA and the rest of the intelligence community run, the global cabal.
• 35:10
  But, what the incident that made me change my mind was when Moderna went into China. And so Moderna, the corporate cartels, so in my day, the similar cartels were really bad. In 'ninety three, I did a 2,000 pound cocaine seizure on 30 horses. My biggest marijuana seizure was 10,000 pounds. But the fentanyl seizures now, you know, make that pale in comparison.
• 35:39
  But China, after the British had opened China up for drug running opium, it's classic history, to control them, you know, via, the Pilgrim Society and all the British other stuff, which is really part of the intelligence community as well, that really, set China back. And when Moderna so China was very leery of the big pharma and kept them up. It's not that they weren't not doing that to their own people. They certainly were, but they were doing it to ensure their control. When Moderna and Pfizer came in, and Moderna is basically DoD, which is basically intelligence community, which is basically DARPA, which is basically ARPA, which is basically IARPA, Intelligence Advanced Research Project Agency.
• 36:24
  That changed my assessment to the global cabal being the primary enemy because the vector is that corporate cartels that they are now inflicting upon China.
• 36:39
  Seth Holehouse: Interesting. Interesting. So it's evolved and now you're seeing that that's emerging, global corporate cartel, basically. And which, I mean, if you look at what's happened since COVID, right, the, you know, since the planned event of COVID, and then the introduction of all the vaccines, of course, the side effects and deaths and just the havoc that those have been wreaking on just, you know, the American population, the global, the global population, it's, I mean, that's it's warfare. Like, if you're looking at it's not just a a lot of people think try again, to simplify it and say, well, they're these big pharmaceutical companies, they're greedy, and they're gonna make more money if they can make us sick because they get they get more customers.
• 37:22
  But, you know, sounds like from your perspective, like, no, it is a it is a these are corporate cartels, right, that are killing us basically and running drugs and waging war on us. So what do you think the the end game of this is? I know it's probably it's a broad question to ask, but it's like we're we're at this stage again, know, that giant beast that was very was very strong as America is really it feels like it's at the point of it's it has some some dying breaths in it. Like it's really, really, really been crippled. What do you see as being the endgame?
• 37:57
  Is it this this, you know, final great reset, you know, June 2030 and this global technocracy with social credit scores or, you know, how do you see them kind of evolving this into what their desired result is?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Well, if you look at Fauci, who just retired with the biggest pension of anybody from the federal government, 4 to 80,000 more than the president and certainly more than my paltry, military and and federal, retirement, Fauci had Chinese bioweapon soldiers in American uniform at Fort Detrick. It's not the China virus like president Trump says. It's the Fort Detrick, Liber, Harvard, Canada, World Games, Wuhan bioweapon. But he was also working with the, big pharma corporate cartels. And so there you can see the mix in the conflict the complicated, intermix of the criminals and the combatants.
• 38:59
  The criminals and combatants are intermixed constantly, and you've got to understand that. And that's, you know, Smedley Butler, World War I Marine Medal of Honor recipient, War is a Racket. And so that all makes sense. The the endgame, I I don't think that China wants to completely destroy The United States because they need The United States, to feed themselves. Like I said, I think they wanna take control of those production fields.
• 39:28
  I think that's what's happening in Ukraine as well. I think Monsanto, I think Ukraine is being carved up for that exact same reason. It's all about resources, which is why Putin and Russia are sitting so pretty. While we're going to central bank digital currency. They've got oil, gold, gas, and precious metals.
• 39:48
  So the endgame, I think you have to turn to, history, like I mentioned, and scripture. And I'm a Christian chaplain, and with the activation of Israel as a state in the day at the end of World War II, that activates end of times of this generation. So that's where we start to understand the mark in the hand and the mark in the forehead, the land of pineal, the Christos fluid going down the 33 vertebraes, that makes sense. And whether people wanna hear that spiritual source, it fits. But I don't think it's, you know, blue helmeted Chinese paratroops coming in.
• 40:31
  I think you're ever gonna see kinetic war like that again. Now there is certainly a third generation kinetic war happening in Ukraine because Putin recognized the bioweapons, the 46 bio labs, and the hundreds of pharma labs there. Pelosi went to, Taiwan and then on to, Indonesia to establish more bio labs. They as she flew away, they even fired missiles at nothing. That's called a dangle in intelligence.
• 41:00
  Look over here while we set up more bio labs over here. So the good while there's a lot of, death, coming and starvation coming, China is fading as a nation state. In about a century, it's not going to exist. It's gonna we we need to outlast them. The global cabal is also in trouble as well.
• 41:23
  How we can see their main vector of environmental social governance, ESG, is fading. It has failed everywhere and people are rejecting it left and right as well. So that was one of their main vectors. They're trying to bring about the next Marburg and everything, and people are waking up to that. So
• 41:42
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year?
• 42:02
  This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine. I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food.
• 42:35
  So there's really two things I would recommend. One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food.
• 42:54
  This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it is. So that way, if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar.
• 43:24
  They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc. But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year.
• 43:49
  Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future. So to go ahead and do this right now, go up a new tab and go to heavensharvest.com. And if you use the promo code Seth, it's s e t h, promo code Seth, you'll save 15% off of your entire order. So again, the time is running out and you'd rather be three months or one year early than one day late. Again, heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth to save 15% today.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I tell people to watch the movie, the outlook, the out the outpost from Afghanistan, which is a true story where the army some general puts this army base surrounded by cliffs in Afghanistan. They just attack from all sides. But at the end of the day, they're still standing there. And the captain, who leads the QRF, the quick reaction force, finally gets there after the battle's over. He looks down and goes, glad they're on our side.
• 44:50
  And so, and I say that's what winning looks like is they've thrown everything at us and we're still here. And we can look to the tribes. I have tribal heritage that are still here, but it's gonna get real bad and real rough. But I think we can survive this and we will survive this. But the devastation and death and starvation, and plagues are going to be, terrible.
• 45:17
  Seth Holehouse: So you think that we're, you know, getting ready to enter into that type of a period, right, of starvation, famine, plagues, you know, probably violence in a lot of areas. But you also think that we will make it through to the other side of that.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do. I do. Michael Young's a friend of mine. He's a former special forces. He's an expert in this stuff.
• 45:41
  He spent a lot more time in Panama than I have. He says starvation's coming. War and starvation always go together. The plagues are certainly being released. Pete Chambers is a special forces retired colonel and doctor, that took the bioweapon, jab and is now awake, to that.
• 46:00
  And so I see all of that happening. But again, I make an analogy to the Roman Republic, fell and the American Republic, which has fallen. And Rome was a republic as America was a republic. Both have fallen. They were replaced by emperors.
• 46:20
  Pertinax, the Roman emperor, tried to come in and reestablish the economy, and the Praetorian Guard killed him very quickly. And so I see the FBI, the CIA, the executive branch of the deep state as the Praetorian Guard of America. They are really running this. If you look at what's going on with Trump, if you're looking at what's going on in Congress, it's all the executive branch. It's the intelligence community, federal law enforcement, and then behind that, the military, is falling in lockstep with all and they're controlling, all of this.
• 46:52
  But if you look at what happened, to Rome, this was the rise of Christianity over the blood of martyrs. And so, you know, I run a chaplaincy and St. Martin de Tours, was the son of a Roman equitae. An equitae is just below the Roman senator. He was a cavalryman.
• 47:11
  So there was a lot of status. And when, Saint Martinetorius was little, he played with the slaves kids, and the slaves kids were Christian, and he liked them, and he became a Christian. But then his dad said, hey, you're going in the corps. He said, yes, sir. He went in the corps, but, he would not fight.
• 47:28
  He gave, he slid his cloak famously and gave half of it to a cold man, you maybe know that story. And so that's as the as the failed, as the fissures of the failed corrupt fallen republic open, it will be filled, with the moral. The the fortitude, if you can have fortitude, you've gotta have faith. And so that's what I see happening now with shows like yours, mine, alternative. This is as as everybody stops watching, you know, CNN and Fox.
• 48:00
  You know, I watched Beck back in the day when he was in CNN and Fox. I was on Fox, and Fox won't have me anymore. This is the alternative beginning to rise. And I see a lot of close parallels between Rome and America.
• 48:16
  Seth Holehouse: That's such an important point because I think that a lot of people they focus on how America is the, you know, the we're repeating the fall of Rome and even the discussion of the fall of Rome has been really in the forefront lately. As people have been looking at all different indicators of whether it's the debasing of the currency, the opening of the borders, all the things that led to the collapse of Rome, but you're the first person I've heard talk about what happened after the collapse and how can we look at what can happen after here, but it sounds like you're also at a place where you're saying, Okay, look, the American Republic as we know it has fallen. And it's it's almost it's beyond repair, and we need to be focusing on building what is next because we're not going to be able to just take this American republican dust it off and superglue a few of the cracks and put it back together again. Now America's back like what it was in the 20s again or the right we're at a different stage in history than that.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that completely. And so and you kinda gotta look at the details of that. You can look at early Christianity as a revolutionary strategy or as a fourth generational conflict. And so they couldn't oppose them by violent or kinetic means. That is, they couldn't outfight them, but they could outlove them.
• 49:35
  And you see a lot of that going on now. And even Yeshua even says it's an Aramaic name of Jesus, said, if you're asked to go one mile with somebody, go two. Well, that actually refers to a Roman, legionaries, requirement where he's carrying all his stuff on his pilium cause they'd walk along their Roman roads because they were great soldiers and engineers. At the end of the day, they'd have to set up their fortress. And about three hundred years before Yeshua, Spartacus took him on, but he lost because he could not outfight them.
• 50:08
  They betrayed him and he lost and they crucified his guys to the streets of Rome. But a legionary could say, hey, you carry my stuff so that at the end of the day, I'm ready to build our fortress and defend. And so Yeshua says, don't just go one mile with them, go two. So what we're gonna see as the barbarians literally come across our fallen borders, because the the transnational corporations don't want borders, they want transnational corporate regions. That's what's going on there, is we're going to have to see men and women of fortitude, which, and I say you only get fortitude through faith, will fill in the gaps.
• 50:50
  But it's not going to look like it did at all. No, it's going to look very different.
• 50:54
  Seth Holehouse: And what do you think it will look like? I mean, even mentioned Rome. I mean, did another emperor come in and step through? I mean, do you see that that America at a certain point in this process will not even be republic anymore and that we'll have a leader rise up perhaps and kind of piece together this broken country and when we form something new? And I know we're getting into much more kind of like the what ifs, but this is where my mind goes into these topics is like, well, what's America look like in twenty years or in thirty years?
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I think America is going to look like a lot more like it did at its founding, especially if you start following, you know, scripture. And I'm not trying to turn this into a spiritual show, but like until we heard about, the, chips in hands and heads, we couldn't understand what was meant by the mark. We just didn't get it. I don't think I understood what was meant by the life is in the blood. You know, we just had Yom Kippur and Kul Nidre and all that.
• 51:53
  I don't think we can really understand, all of that. We're starting now to understand that. But I think, you know, I have at jeffreypratha.com, I have team America and Team Global Freedom, which is Americans relying on God and each other, not corrupt government in DC, just like we stopped relying on corrupt government in Britain. And we didn't really need anything from anybody else. And I've read the journals of the early trappers who came to the tribes because of my tribal heritage, and they go, we've got nothing they want.
• 52:25
  The creator has provided everything they need. And so I think there's going to be a lot more regionalism and self sufficiency of small communities when the star kicks in in two years where you can't fly without having the star. It's a yellow background, but it's a star. It's a white star and yellow background, very close to a yellow star. You can't fly anywhere.
• 52:48
  People are going to hunker down. They're going to become much more regionalized, just like when Lincoln asked Lee, hey, will you leave my army? He goes, no, I'm a Virginian first. I'm going to identify with my region, with my state. And that's probably what I think the genius of the founders missed is they didn't understand the mobility that would then lead to a lack of loyalty in The States.
• 53:14
  If you look at the founders periods, nobody moved that much. And so they were Massachusetts men, they were Virginia men, they were New York men. And that's how they identified. And with the technology changing, the identity change, but the technology is going to shut down. It's all shutting down.
• 53:33
  It's being shut down purposely. And so people are going to become regional and they're going to become a lot more self sufficient. And so it's going to look much more like it did. That's how I see us getting through this. The cities are done.
• 53:49
  The cities will not make it. You know, Gates is planned for the vertical farming and the short, vaccine cycles in lettuce and everything. And they're already what's called in SOCOM terms, feral cities. That's where the kinetic war is happening right now. Actually, there's bands of, military fighting men.
• 54:08
  They're just not uniform, but they're killing anybody who's not in their gang. That's warfare. It's just not uniformed warfare. It's just not what people think of warfare, but it's certainly happening and those become areas to refill. But places like Texas and Florida that have ports are real important.
• 54:25
  Northern California, Shasta County throwing out their corrupt government. That's an interesting, place. There's been places in Mexico that have fought back. So, it's not gonna be just north or south, but it's going to be, regional, and it's going to be a mix of, regionality through, faith and through self production. The urban centers are not gonna survive, because the urban centers need the countryside.
• 54:59
  The countryside doesn't need the urban centers. And they think they can control those, but I don't think they can as well. And I think that what you see a lot of the illegals coming in, and in my day, they were Latin American. And I can tell you, having spent a lot of time from Mexico to Guatemala, Honduras, Panama, Bolivia, Chile, on down, Latin American people are great family oriented, hardworking, religious people. They're not gonna go for this trainee drag reset transhumanism stuff.
• 55:33
  And so our side is going to grow, and it is growing daily. The terrain in this war is really human, not physical, and they're losing terrain daily. We're gaining terrain daily.
• 55:45
  Seth Holehouse: It's such an important point and angle to take on this. And it reminds me of Peter Zihani, he wrote a book called The End of the World is Just the Beginning. And it was about just the collapse of globalism. And really how you're we're at the we've kind of reached that peak, and now we're we're it's now entering into the fall of this. And you can see it's if you look at these plans, the plans for a one world government or, you know, global technocracy, it's built on technology.
• 56:12
  It's the only way they can rule the world is having everyone locked into the system, but then, as you say, that system itself, the technology is collapsing, and it really relies on like the only way that you can achieve that is if everyone's living in these tiny little, these kind of condensed fifteen minute cities where there's full surveillance and everything, but we're seeing the opposite happen. We're seeing every a lot more people moving out to the country and just learning how to grow their own food and raise chickens and having bigger families and there's this massive push back to tradition. And so from a more practical perspective, I mean, looking at just the all different vectors of war that America's facing right now for the listeners, you know, and people that are watching listening to the show. What's your what's your advice to people that are hearing this and thinking, Oh, man, we're screwed. I'm not sure what to even do.
• 57:05
  What are some a few key pointers because I think you're someone that has learned how to survive in regions and areas that want you to be dead. So you probably have some good advice for how we can be doing that here in America.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I do, I think. And, you know, that's what I did in Special Forces, and that's what I'm advocating in Team America. But whether they join or not so you got to get out of the cities, first off. And the idea that they are this all powerful Goliath is simply a lie. They are not geniuses nor giants.
• 57:39
  They're mostly failures with father wounds, and they're totally overcomeable. But you have to have the faith of fortitude, whatever that means for you, and then you have to neighbor up. And so what I mean by when I say human terrain and human orientation, the first is orient to God. And I say in America, that's our Judeo Christic and native traditions with a centerpiece of Christic. And then the neighbor stations just kind of talk to people and just see what they say and then develop that from there, develop that, especially with emergency services, with fire, with police, see where they stand, see who's gonna show up.
• 58:19
  And then what I'm always doing is showing up for anybody that asks me, so that maybe then they'll show up for me, as well. And building an alternative parallel economy. That's unconventional warfare. That's exactly what it is. And the more, tyrannical and oppressive the regime becomes, the greater the resistance movement builds.
• 58:42
  So for example, you know, big hospital and big pharma and big medicine are totally corrupted. So abandon those and go find a country doctor or naturopath, or pool your resources around you so that you guys have a concierge doctor. That's one way. Develop little market areas and they can't control that. Resistance movements are like mercury.
• 59:09
  You squish them down in one place and they show up in another. And that's where America came from. So Americans saw themselves as the new Israelites. Clearly, Benjamin Franklin wanted the seal to be part of the Red Sea with the pillar of fire behind him. And, you know, Thomas Jefferson signed his letters, yours in Christ, and George Washington hit his knees and depended upon divine providence.
• 59:34
  The tribes were all about freedom. They'd already rejected the great ziggurats, the killing sacrifices. And by the time everybody got here, they were already like, we're living out here because we're living free. So going back to our roots, our heritage, understanding the real heritage, is the way this will happen. And like you said, a lot of people, are doing it, but there's no big one answer.
• 1:00:00
  And what people got to get over is, and I see this all the time is like, well, you know, what about being infiltrated? In special forces, we're always infiltrated. I have lost count of the number of times I have been betrayed and the deep state has come after me. But yet here I am, you know, like Kyle Rittenhouse, the entire weight of the deep state coming after us, and we have survived because of our orientation to God and each other. So it's neighboring up or, you know, it's love God and love your neighbor, put it another way.
• 1:00:35
  Those are the real answers, and then you have to action those answers into work, but nobody is gonna do it for us. Trump is not Jesus. And Q, I think there was a Q team, but I think that's done. I'm not a devolution guy. I'm not a continuity of operations guy, a COOP guy, although I've done lots of COOP for the DEA and DIA and companies.
• 1:01:01
  Everybody has to get involved. How we got here is because we delegated out everything. So homeschool, home church and homework.
• 1:01:10
  Seth Holehouse: And I think, you know, earlier you talked about this being, you know, bringing some spiritual discussion to this. And like, to me, you can't talk about the war that we're in without getting into that. I think that that's the, you know, why has there been such an attack on faith and attack on, you know, America now it's like, who's the number one target? It's the white Christian male. It's like, why is that?
• 1:01:30
  Because that's that's the center of a family. It's the center of a community. It's the center of a church and here in America. And so I think that that's important. And yeah, it's like it's prepping tip number one is get right with God.
• 1:01:42
  To me, that's if you want to get prepared, because think about it, you know, the the evil that the people the cabal, they've got the bunkers, they've got, you know, a thousand years of food stored away, they've got all the guns and everything. At the end of the day, that's not going to be what's going to save them, right? So, so we're kind of in ending the the hitting the end of our hour before we sign off, I want to bring up your website, jeffreypraythere.com, which I'll put into the description. So you've got a show called The Pray There Point. So tell the audience about your show.
• 1:02:11
  Tell them how they can follow you, where they can learn more about you, where they can support you.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My show is The Prather Point and my website is jeffreyprather.com. I have shows Tuesdays and Thursdays live at 3PM. And then on Mondays and Wednesdays, I have an American media Periscope show at five that's prerecorded called the Prather Brief. And on, Fridays, I have a Brighton TV, live show at, 10AM Eastern, the Prather Point.
• 1:02:39
  Sundays, I have Christchaplaincy. In between that, do guest spots. I teach martial arts and firearms and lots of other stuff as well.
• 1:02:51
  Seth Holehouse: Well, great. I'll make sure that that's in the link below. And again, thank you so much for coming on and I'd love to have you back again because it's, I think there's this there's so many events happening that you'd be a great person, I got to get you on to talk about this because I find that a lot of people tend to look at things in just within their their own kind of narrow perspective, but I think that the way that you've presented the understanding of just what's happening right now, it's, I think it's just is spot on. And I I just agree with so much of what you've talked about today. It's very important information.
• 1:03:25
  So thank you again for coming on the show. Really appreciate you making this time for us.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me, and I'm happy to come back.
• 1:03:32
  Seth Holehouse: Great.