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Go Down to Go Up | Pele Yoetz | Hachzek Day 127 · The Torah Sparks Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Cheber, how are you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Pela Yoid's day 127.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today is Tuesday.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a new topic, very important topic, the topic of Eureda going down.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna see that the importance of going down actually is fundament is a fundamental requirement if you want to go up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And while it might seem counterintuitive, and it does seem that way, it's actually not.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: Here's the approach.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's wise for a person to descend, to cultivate a humble attitude in life in front of other people, and never to push himself to the top.
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  SPEAKER_00: Better that it should be said to you, come up here than that you should be demoted from where you are.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's better to remain low.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe somebody will elevate you, say, hey, come sit to the deist instead of just going right there.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just a mushal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Velo Shesh Mata Mata doesn't mean a person should completely degrade his own honor.
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  SPEAKER_00: A person should recognize what seems to be in his mind the rightful place where he should be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And from that place, he should go a little bit lower with humility, with piety.
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  SPEAKER_00: Says the Pelayite.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that's the same de khus darganisav itza.
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  SPEAKER_00: When it comes to choosing a spouse, a person should go down a step to take a wife.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's the idea?
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  SPEAKER_00: Again, it it's connected to be able to accept somebody who's of a higher stature might be more difficult.
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  SPEAKER_00: So therefore, go down a little bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And says the Paleoids, if the person is poor and they offer him an abundant dowry and gifts, so then it's a different story.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: But if you are vok a law is shem a la mode ala mishbur ala toy, and this person's going to be able to serve a shem with calmness and tranquility.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um then gedalim, said then if his desire is to marry a woman who is from nobility, um then that would be okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Says the Paleoids.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: A person should always strive to have friends, peers, rebay him, people who are more knowledgeable than him, people that are greater than him, people that you can learn from, so that way you can learn from them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even if that means you're going to be lower, you're going to be seated by the foot of their company, that's still a better thing.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: He shouldn't just choose to sit where the people are, um, even though he'll end up rising to the top.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: Better to be a tail of two lions than to be the head of a fox.
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  SPEAKER_00: So better to be a junior member in a great assembly than to be the senior member of a lesser assembly in terms of, I guess, spiritual stature.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's if you really want to get smart, you really want to learn and grow, that's the approach.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: They said in explaining the parable that the tail of a lion is still part of the lion.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the head of the fox is merely a fox.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Somebody that you can discuss your challenges, somebody that you could glean from their knowledge.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you'll be hungry and thirsty.
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  SPEAKER_00: You should be by their, that's the lushnam chazal, you should be by their, you should be by their feet.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_00: A person should go to those who are greater, like we've been saying.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's gonna uh gain knowledge, things that he didn't know previously.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the entirety of man is to constantly be growing and constantly be um becoming more and more.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the way to do that is by being humble and having people in your life that are greater than you.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Gamma Rit says salah, yeah, beautiful line.
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  SPEAKER_00: Somebody who wants to go up, go down.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you really want to ascend, take a step down.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, when it comes to just to give you a mushal, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's true in physics, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: If you want to jump up, the way to get the greatest elevation is to first go down.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: So in spiritual and spiritual life, I think maybe that's the same idea.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: You bend down, you humble yourself, and then you could rise.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: A person makes himself humble, like a desir, then he's going to be granted um the tairo unakalo kel of and he's going to rise to greatness.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like chazal tell us should be like a hisap.
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  SPEAKER_00: His considered a bendable, um humble type of plant.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_00: A person should learn from anybody, regardless of if his own status.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: He should bring hope to the hearts of those who are downtrodden.
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  SPEAKER_00: He should seek peace, he should chase peace, he should love people, he should seek to bring them close to the Torah.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is a big one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes people think that, hey, I'm on a higher level, so therefore I'm gonna wait for you to acknowledge me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when reality, says the Pelioitz, there's this concept of being Maktim Shalom, and that requires humility, even if somebody is taga less than you, but to be Makdim Sholom, Lakhal Adam is such an important thing.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: Gavarabba is a person of a loyal, a person shouldn't say, Gavarabba, I'm such an important person, but you know, that I'm gonna lower myself now and greet him first.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is his honor, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: By giving uh the way to honor your master, a karushbaru, is by showing respect to your fellow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh tobey ne lookam.
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  SPEAKER_00: In this way, a person will find favor, he will find wisdom in the eyes of Hashem and in man.
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  SPEAKER_00: Somebody who does these things by going down, that's how he'll go up.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like in the mushal, we said, you bend down and then you could jump to higher heights.
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  SPEAKER_00: Allo Yala, indeed, this person will surely ascend upwards.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: We should all be Zoha to ascend upwards in our What is Hashem, realizing that it might require us to go down first, wishing you an amazing, wonderful rest of your day.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shem, tomorrow I'll pick up with an exciting topic, the topic of you not losing hope.