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Jags Drive Time: Thursday, December 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jacko back Warters. Did you jenck Warren's drive time? Ryan
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Speaker 1: Sex textra Actually, Jaguarres drive time starts right now. I
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Speaker 1: think everybody's frustrated, you know, not just to him. I think, uh,
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Speaker 1: all of our receivers are frustrating, tight ends or quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: are frustrating, line or for our whole team is frustrated.
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Speaker 1: You know, you lose twelve in a row, you better
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Speaker 1: be frustrated. But now it's a matter of coming back
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Speaker 1: to work. You can work on your craft, not pointing
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Speaker 1: any fingers. Don't blame the quarterback, don't blame the receivers,
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Speaker 1: don't blame the line, don't blame the defense, don't blame
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Speaker 1: the coaches. Let's just go in here and everybody come
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Speaker 1: back and work and let's get better. We have a
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Speaker 1: young football team, there's no question about it. We're not
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Speaker 1: through three quarterbacks. Uh, you know, different tight ends. We
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Speaker 1: lost our third down back. We're get different backs in
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Speaker 1: the backfield as far as getting open. So it's been
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Speaker 1: quite the challengement the reality of a one and twelve
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Speaker 1: football team. Everyone is frustrated to That question stem from
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Speaker 1: a question about d J. H. Hart Jr. And the
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Speaker 1: connection with Minshew and why isn't it work? And he said, hey,
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Speaker 1: everyone is frustrated and they should be welcome to Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Drive Time on a Thursday morning. Ashland Sullivan here with
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton and John Osier. We're getting ready to take
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Speaker 1: a deep dive into this Sunday's game against the Baltimore Ravens.
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Speaker 1: As we get right into big things, and big thing
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Speaker 1: one is the past offense. Will look across the line
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Speaker 1: scribbage on Sunday and see this guy Calais Campbell and
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Speaker 1: Junique and gock Way kind of sort of smiling across
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Speaker 1: the line of him. Maybe not Gardner mins who didn't
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Speaker 1: mention yesterday in his press conference that he hopes Kalas
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Speaker 1: Campbell will be somewhat nice, but he did mention Yunique
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Speaker 1: and gock Way we know he will be out for blood.
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Speaker 1: I think we all can expect that and agree with
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Speaker 1: that the past of those two former teammates of his
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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars. Big thing too is the present. The
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Speaker 1: Ravens are focused on the playoffs and that brings them
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Speaker 1: to the present to this game. The Jaguars are, like
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Speaker 1: we said, a one twelve team that is already out
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs, and that's the reality of one and twelve.
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Speaker 1: The present for the Ravens is playoffs. The Jaguars just
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Speaker 1: trying to win a game. I wouldn't say, Um, there's
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Speaker 1: a ton of pressure right now. You know, I don't
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Speaker 1: think anybody really expects much of a one and twelve team,
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Speaker 1: but we expected a lot of ourselves. You know, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna go out there, UM, trying not to let you
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Speaker 1: know what's going on this season, determine what happens these
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Speaker 1: next three games. We're gonna try to have a lot
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Speaker 1: of fun, make the most of them. Um, put some
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Speaker 1: good stuff on tape and big thing three he probably
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Speaker 1: can guess it's it is the future. It's all we've
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Speaker 1: been talking about the past couple of weeks. Is Jackson's
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Speaker 1: little Jacksonville's future, especially at quarterback. For the season, Lamar
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Speaker 1: and Jackson put the Ravens in the playoffs his first
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Speaker 1: season as the starter. Can the Jaguars get there that
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Speaker 1: quickly if they get the right guy, But first they
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Speaker 1: have to worry about who the quarterback is right now.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a difference between somebody saying they want
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Speaker 1: to it and actually showing that they're ready, And I
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Speaker 1: think that's the one thing we were trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out as a staff that, uh, is he ready physically
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Speaker 1: to get back there? And uh, you know, it wasn't
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Speaker 1: really a whole lot of proof that gave us that.
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Speaker 1: You know, mentally, Gardner was a confetter. He's gonna want
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Speaker 1: to play, whether he has a broken bomb and broken leg, whatever,
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Speaker 1: He's gonna try to play. But from the way we
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Speaker 1: looked at it, we didn't think he was quite ready
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Speaker 1: with the reps that we saw him get. Um, now
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Speaker 1: we feel a little bit more comfortable, obviously, and Coach
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Speaker 1: Moron decided to make the switch back to him, so
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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get a good couple of days of practice here,
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Speaker 1: let him see him stroke it in practice, and go
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Speaker 1: from there feeling like Garner Minshew is back healthy from
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Speaker 1: that fractured them And we've been seeing him taking starting
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Speaker 1: reps this week, getting ready for his first start in
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Speaker 1: seven weeks this Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens. And we
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Speaker 1: go back up to big thing one the past and
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Speaker 1: John I thought it was pretty telling, um the difference
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Speaker 1: in personalities between Calais and Unique. Obviously, we've worked very
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Speaker 1: closely with both of them. But Scarter said, I have
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Speaker 1: a feeling Clais will be some what nice. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if that's the case. Yeah, well, John won't be
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Speaker 1: nice if he gets the quarterback. Without being too snide,
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Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten the quarterback in Baltimore. He hasn't got
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Speaker 1: very many pressures. Uh. He's sort of a situational player.
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Speaker 1: So I hope for his sake, not Sunday, but I
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Speaker 1: hope for his sake in the last couple of games
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Speaker 1: or sometime with the Ravens before he signs his contract,
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Speaker 1: that he puts up some numbers because right now he's
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Speaker 1: not in line for the contract he thought he was
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Speaker 1: going to get. So I I'm assuming he'll be motivated.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a huge sack. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is, Kalais and Unique aren't really huge
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Speaker 1: storylines for the Ravens for sort of the reasons that
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars let them go. Uh A, Klais has been hurt.
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Speaker 1: I think Kalius's story with the Ravens will be told
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Speaker 1: during the playoffs, during their playoff push. If he can
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Speaker 1: get healthy, he will be exactly what they wanted. But
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Speaker 1: so far not a huge story for the Ravens those
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Speaker 1: two this year. No, And I was going to touch
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Speaker 1: on John that we're somewhat vindicated here. Uh you know,
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Speaker 1: we were both vilified for suggesting that Unique was not
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Speaker 1: worth the money in Jacksonville. Uh laid it out, pointed
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Speaker 1: out all the things now that in Minnesota they talked
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Speaker 1: about for the brief time he was there. Back the
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Speaker 1: guests that we had on mentioned it a few weeks back.
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Speaker 1: And now you're seeing in Baltimore situational pass rushers. So
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Speaker 1: all the pay on and we said, no, don't pay
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Speaker 1: on right, don't give him a contract that ties you
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Speaker 1: to him into the future at an exorbitant number and
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Speaker 1: the numbers won't back it up. Um. Would be interesting
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Speaker 1: to see what the Ravens do, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 1: what they gave up for him in today's currency is
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Speaker 1: not prohibitive. Not when you have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1: They could let him walk as well and go find
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Speaker 1: the money somewhere else. Their cap situation is fairly healthy. However,
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Speaker 1: they've got a lot of guys they have to pay.
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Speaker 1: So it's Klais Campbell. Look, I've been here every season.
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Speaker 1: I have interacted with every player at least once in
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Speaker 1: their career in Jacksonville. And I've never known one that
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Speaker 1: was as good as Calais. And that's with all due
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Speaker 1: respect to Jimmy and Fred and them, but it just
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Speaker 1: in terms of the way that he interacted with people,
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Speaker 1: how friendly he was, how outgoing and committed he was,
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Speaker 1: you know, person teammate football player. I mean, he's the
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Speaker 1: whole package. Hated to see him go, but now you
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Speaker 1: see why the Jaguars let him go. His productivity wouldn't
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Speaker 1: match the salary that they had. But beyond thing, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm one of those guys to tell you, I really
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Speaker 1: liked John. I liked him personally. I enjoyed interacting with him.
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Speaker 1: I liked his edginess. I just wouldn't have paid him that,
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Speaker 1: and I wonder who will pay him that now. Um,
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Speaker 1: but he had five sacks in Minnesota and he has
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Speaker 1: one I think here in Baltimore. Those two guys, as
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Speaker 1: much as they would have improved the Jaguars off of
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Speaker 1: where we are right now this year, UM, letting them
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Speaker 1: go was the right move. Yes, when you're matching money
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Speaker 1: with stats, it seems to be that that was the
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Speaker 1: right decision for both of them, but definitely will be
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Speaker 1: a storyline that we're looking at on Sunday. And let's
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Speaker 1: go to a big thing three because Brian, I know
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Speaker 1: that you definitely are passionate about this getting the right guy.
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Speaker 1: And that's the big question is can the Jaguars be
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Speaker 1: in a similar situation with the Ravens where they're in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs the first year of Lamar Jackson being the starter.
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Speaker 1: But that's key is either right guy. There's no guarantee
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Speaker 1: if you just go get a quarterback in the draft, Okyeah,
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Speaker 1: You're there. No problem. Well here, So that's why Mike
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Speaker 1: Glennon was in the law in the lineup. As far
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Speaker 1: as I can tell, they needed to see what they
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Speaker 1: had in terms of young players. I mean, let's say
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Speaker 1: your your quarterback next year is justin fields. But for
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Speaker 1: the purpose of our conversation here, it could be any
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Speaker 1: of them. They're not going to do it on their own.
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Speaker 1: That Ravens team in seventeen that Lamar Jackson took over
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Speaker 1: in in mid season and took them into the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: When he took them into the playoffs and they got
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Speaker 1: beat in Kansas City, you know, I think he went
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Speaker 1: seven and one or or eight one over that that
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Speaker 1: course of the season, and they had a talented team.
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Speaker 1: They had some high draft choices, good offensive and defensive lineman.
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Speaker 1: So Glennon's in the lineup for a couple of weeks
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Speaker 1: so they can see, you know, Colin Johnson, no real
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Speaker 1: surprise that he rose to prominence when Mike Glennon and
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Speaker 1: Jake Luton before him, the guys with the big arms
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Speaker 1: were in the lineup. The Jaguars needed to see what
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Speaker 1: they had. We needed to see who these young guys
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Speaker 1: were and what we could expect from them growth wise.
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Speaker 1: Into one you get the right quarterback. And if some
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Speaker 1: of these dozen draft picks, and a lot of them
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Speaker 1: look like they're really promising players, but if some of
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Speaker 1: them rise next year and take a big step forward
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Speaker 1: from year one to year two, yeah, yeah, at least
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Speaker 1: you could be in contention. You could be the Raiders,
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Speaker 1: right or the Bears who are coming in here a
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Speaker 1: week from Sunday at six and seven. You can be
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Speaker 1: in the conversation if this then that hell, just give
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Speaker 1: me that, give me something to talk about in December
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Speaker 1: except next year's draft. And I'm not the only one
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Speaker 1: saying that right, just give me that with a first
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Speaker 1: year quarterback, even if it's if it's the most remote
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Speaker 1: thing that has to happen, let me talk about that.
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Speaker 1: That's what makes this part of the fun. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think there are some tremendous young players. I write
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Speaker 1: about them in um The John's got two quick thoughts
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Speaker 1: coming up later. Today we focused on rookies, you know,
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Speaker 1: the numbers, the quality. Yeah, the right quarterback can put
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Speaker 1: this team into the conversation in his rookie season. That's
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Speaker 1: all you want to be in the conversation, which leaves
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Speaker 1: us perfectly into big thing too. And John, obviously the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars right now are not in the conversation. The Ravens
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Speaker 1: very much are. And I was talking to Labisco Chennault
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Speaker 1: yesterday and I was like, all right, Lavisco, you're going
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Speaker 1: up to Baltimore. That's a really explosive team, you know, playoffs,
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Speaker 1: they're fighting forward and you guys are just trying to
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Speaker 1: get a win. And he said, you know, we have
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Speaker 1: to do our job and we have to go up there.
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Speaker 1: But that's the biggest thing is we get the answers
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Speaker 1: of do your job, which is obvious. You gotta go
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Speaker 1: up there. And compete, but to match that level of intensity,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. Well, it's historically very hard. One
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Speaker 1: of the strangest things that happened in the NFL statistically
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Speaker 1: is when a team that's out of it beats a
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Speaker 1: team that is desperate. And by desperate, I don't mean
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Speaker 1: you know the Ravens are desperate because they need to
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Speaker 1: win to get in. It's what made the two thousand
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Speaker 1: sixteen game when the Jaguars beat the Tennessee Titans and
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Speaker 1: Doug Moron's first game as interim, when Tennessee was playing
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Speaker 1: for everything and a team out of it beats you.
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Speaker 1: That's really unusual. That's the situation this week. Plus you
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Speaker 1: have very talented team in the running game against a
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Speaker 1: very depleted part of the Jaguars game. I'm not I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to depress everybody here, but this is a
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Speaker 1: brutal matchup for motivation reasons, for adrenaline reasons, and for
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Speaker 1: just playing physical reasons. So I'm picking the Jags quick,
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Speaker 1: real quick. And I know we've got a guest from Baltimore.
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Speaker 1: Just you look at at at the a f C
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Speaker 1: playoff standings right now, the Colts are in the sixth
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Speaker 1: spot of seven and Baltimore is in the eighth spot, right,
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Speaker 1: and they're tied with Miami, but they're behind them in
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Speaker 1: the tiebreaker. I mean, you're getting a team that is
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Speaker 1: desperate to win on Sunday at home, the weather is
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Speaker 1: likely to be cold, and they have a team that's
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Speaker 1: coming off of the game of right. I mean, John's
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Speaker 1: use of the word brutal is apt, but it may
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Speaker 1: not be strong enough. I mean, it's this Ravens team
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Speaker 1: is going to be wound up like a jet engine.
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Speaker 1: And you're asking a Jacksonville team that's constantly putting players
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Speaker 1: on injured reserve, going in without starters to you know,
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Speaker 1: to to to light the match and go compete. And
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Speaker 1: Doug Morrow would say, yeah, I am, because that's what
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Speaker 1: our job is as professionals. You got it, it is.
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Speaker 1: But you want to be where they are, you know.
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Speaker 1: And you look at at the Bears, who are coming
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Speaker 1: in the next week their ninth in the NFC, but
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Speaker 1: they've got a chance to go to eighth with the
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Speaker 1: Vikings on Sunday, and who knows what happens with Arizona
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Speaker 1: in front of them. I mean, just that's where this
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Speaker 1: team is it's this grinded out mentality. One thing that
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Speaker 1: you can count on. You will find out who loves
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Speaker 1: the game of football the next three weeks. Absolutely, that
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Speaker 1: is one thing I'm telling needless to say. It's a
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Speaker 1: tough competition on Sunday, but hey, John's taking the Jags
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Speaker 1: and we're counting on that when we come back. Garrett Downing, Baltimore, Baltimore,
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Speaker 1: is the speed of it, you know. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's the one thing that you see with Lamar. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, he's got a good arm and
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Speaker 1: he could throw, but the speed of him on the field,
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just you know, he always looks like
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Speaker 1: the fastest guy on the field, you know, And and
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Speaker 1: that's a credit to him. And and um, you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: three or four yard game turns into a sixteen yard game,
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Speaker 1: you know the other day. You know, you're just like,
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Speaker 1: you know, hey, they have a good angle on them.
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Speaker 1: So I think what you what's hard to simulated those
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Speaker 1: angles and the way you've got to come to kind
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Speaker 1: of corral him or try to keep him in a web.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that that you can get
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Speaker 1: him down done round on attempting to simulate Lamar Jackson
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Speaker 1: in practice with Scout team, Needless to say, that's a
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Speaker 1: little more difficult to thin past week, and we'll see
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Speaker 1: joining us. Garrett's thank you for waking up early with us. Yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: thanks for having me of course. So one, are you
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Speaker 1: well rested? Did you take a nap? Because that Monday
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Speaker 1: night football game we stayed up for it, that fourth quarter,
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Speaker 1: that fourth down where Laren Larne Jackson comes back in
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Speaker 1: the game. We're still talking about it. So I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you guys are we are? Actually, you know, I've gone
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Speaker 1: through a several cups of coffee here in the past
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Speaker 1: few days as the Ravens kept me up late for
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Speaker 1: that game on Monday, and I can go to bed
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Speaker 1: after that one, certainly. I mean, that was the game
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Speaker 1: of the year that we've seen so far in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Had a little bit of everything. It was back and forth,
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Speaker 1: it was down to the wire. It had theatrics with
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson having to leave the game, get an i
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Speaker 1: V deal with cramps, and then come back in on
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Speaker 1: fourth down. It really seemed like it was something out
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Speaker 1: of either Hollywood or pro wrestling for wrestling scripts. Uh,
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe a little bit of both. But this really
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Speaker 1: an incredible game. And I think the Ravens are looking
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Speaker 1: at where they are right now and they feel like,
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Speaker 1: you know, they have a chance to finish the seasons strong,
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Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, and go into the playoffs side. However, uh,
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Speaker 1: they know they can't afford to lose one of these
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Speaker 1: final three games. If they lose, they might be on
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Speaker 1: the outside looking in for the postseason. So they know
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Speaker 1: that this game on Sunday against Jacksonville is just critical
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Speaker 1: for them. Garrett, there was obviously a huge spotlight on
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and and he obviously handles that well. But
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering through a difficult season with the COVID stuff,
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Speaker 1: with everything going on, it seems like Lamar's getting back
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Speaker 1: to being Lamar. Uh Is that the way you read it?
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Speaker 1: And you know what's his mindset right now going into
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Speaker 1: this final push. I think that's a good observation. Lamar
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Speaker 1: talked about how when he went on the COVID list,
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Speaker 1: missed the game against Pittsburgh and then returned, how that
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Speaker 1: whole experience for him basically served as a bit of
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Speaker 1: a reset that he felt like when he returned, he
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Speaker 1: realized how much he missed the game, how much he
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Speaker 1: missed being around his teammates, and just how eager he
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Speaker 1: was to come back and just play. I think that
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Speaker 1: it rejuvenated him to a certain extent. I know it
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Speaker 1: sounds strange to say that that going on the COVID
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Speaker 1: list could could be a way to rejuvenate you, but
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Speaker 1: I think that this is a guy who's been in
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Speaker 1: the spotlight so much since the end of last season
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Speaker 1: that to to kind of get a break reset and
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Speaker 1: then come back and uh kind of being a back
18:39
Speaker 1: against the wall mentality where the Ravens have to likely
18:42
Speaker 1: went out to make the playoffs, I think that serves
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Speaker 1: him well. Um And and he has said that he
18:46
Speaker 1: does feel a little bit rejuvenated, UM refocused, and he's
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Speaker 1: played he played probably his best game of the season
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Speaker 1: overall on Monday night and he looks really good since
18:57
Speaker 1: returning GA. Lamar Jackson is obviously the Ravens m VP.
19:04
Speaker 1: But if they get into the playoffs and do some damage,
19:07
Speaker 1: could the case be made for Orlando Brown. When you
19:09
Speaker 1: lose Ronnie Stanley, who's one of the best left tackles
19:12
Speaker 1: in football, and you move your right tackle to your
19:14
Speaker 1: left tackle, I mean, that's no gimme, even for a
19:17
Speaker 1: talented young player like that, that he's gonna make the
19:19
Speaker 1: adjustment from right to left and be able to hold up.
19:22
Speaker 1: But I watched the game the other night. I thought
19:24
Speaker 1: he held up well. How is the offensive line adjusted
19:27
Speaker 1: to the loss of Stanley, one of your best players,
19:31
Speaker 1: and then managed to thrive with Brown your right tackle
19:34
Speaker 1: playing left. Yeah, Orlando Brown's playing really well. I mean,
19:37
Speaker 1: this is a guy who was the third round pick
19:39
Speaker 1: and a lot of people know his combined story and
19:41
Speaker 1: and uh, he ends up being just a great fit
19:44
Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Some of the older fans may remember his dad,
19:48
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, Sr. Was a player for the Browns and
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Speaker 1: the Ravens and it was a great player. So Orlando
19:54
Speaker 1: has been a great fit in Baltimore. Like you said,
19:56
Speaker 1: he's moved from right to left he has. He kind
19:59
Speaker 1: of s it's the tone for that offensive line. Uh.
20:02
Speaker 1: He has an edge, he has an attitude when he's
20:05
Speaker 1: out there on the field. He's playing fantastic. And I
20:07
Speaker 1: actually think that you mentioned the game on Monday. He
20:09
Speaker 1: was going up against Myles Garrett, who was in that
20:11
Speaker 1: defensive Play of the Year conversation. Um, and and Garrett
20:14
Speaker 1: was held pretty quiet in that game. So, um, he's
20:17
Speaker 1: playing great. I think the offensive line is really coming
20:19
Speaker 1: together for the Ravens. I thought they had their best
20:21
Speaker 1: overall game against the Browns with this reworked offensive line.
20:26
Speaker 1: And so you know, if if the Ravens are gonna
20:28
Speaker 1: go on a run here and and you know, make
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Speaker 1: noise in December and potentially January, they need their offensive
20:34
Speaker 1: line playing at a high level it did on Monday,
20:36
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be something to watch down the stretch
20:38
Speaker 1: for this team. The story mark Ingram has been in
20:44
Speaker 1: and out of lineup with different issues and here comes
20:46
Speaker 1: j K. Dobbins again. We're talking here about about what
20:50
Speaker 1: a young, undrafted James Robinson has meant to this team.
20:53
Speaker 1: What is j K. Dobbins meanted this team to keep
20:55
Speaker 1: some of the pressure off of your quarterback. Yeah, j
20:59
Speaker 1: K has played second round pick um. You know, the
21:02
Speaker 1: Ravens started the season with mark Ingram as the bell
21:04
Speaker 1: cow at running back, but really this has been a
21:08
Speaker 1: a three back approach all year long, with with Ingram,
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Speaker 1: with Gus Edwards, with j K Dobbins. And what's happened
21:14
Speaker 1: over the course of the years that the percentage of
21:16
Speaker 1: the carries and the pie has shifted a little bit
21:19
Speaker 1: away from mark Ingram. He didn't have a carry on Monday.
21:22
Speaker 1: It shifted away from Ingram more towards Gus Edwards, who
21:25
Speaker 1: had two touchdowns against the Browns, and more towards j
21:29
Speaker 1: K Dobbins, who had a touchdown against the Browns also
21:32
Speaker 1: two point conversion. So, uh, there's just been this kind
21:37
Speaker 1: of shift over the course of the year. And Dobbins
21:39
Speaker 1: is somebody who, to me is is really kind of
21:43
Speaker 1: an ascending player. And I think that the Ravens here
21:46
Speaker 1: in Baltimore there were complaints and also from fantasy football
21:48
Speaker 1: owners saying did j K Dobbins more carries? Give him
21:51
Speaker 1: more carries? That was something we heard alive in the
21:53
Speaker 1: first half of the season. Well, it's clearly that the
21:55
Speaker 1: Ravens had a plan which was to bring him along slowly.
21:58
Speaker 1: Now we're here in December. Um, he's got fresh legs,
22:01
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards has fresh legs. More gang Er still has
22:04
Speaker 1: fresh legs. They've balanced it pretty well and as they
22:07
Speaker 1: get down here to the stretch run, they've got an
22:10
Speaker 1: explosive young running back who is not hitting the rookie
22:14
Speaker 1: wall and is it is still very much on the assent,
22:16
Speaker 1: and I think that's a good thing for this offense. Yes,
22:21
Speaker 1: we've talked about all week. The Jaguars run defense bets
22:24
Speaker 1: her be on point and Garrett, it's a it's a
22:27
Speaker 1: storyline down here in Jacksonville, and I'm wondering if it
22:30
Speaker 1: is up there for Klaius Campbell in Unique and Gaka
22:33
Speaker 1: the return of playing Jacksonville for those two guys. Have
22:37
Speaker 1: you heard anything about it? Are you guys talking about it?
22:40
Speaker 1: Or is that just as kind of overhyping it like
22:43
Speaker 1: reporters sometimes do. No, I mean I think that they're
22:46
Speaker 1: certainly excitement for those two guys. Haven't had a chance
22:48
Speaker 1: to talk with Yunique, but did talk with Calais yesterday.
22:52
Speaker 1: He downplayed it a little bit. You guys know Calaius, Um,
22:55
Speaker 1: you know I'm no surprised that not he he didn't
22:58
Speaker 1: make too big of a deal of it. Um, but
23:01
Speaker 1: I think that whenever a player goes up against the
23:04
Speaker 1: former team, there's motivation there. Um, there's there's you want
23:08
Speaker 1: to prove something. We've seen that time and time again
23:12
Speaker 1: with players going up against former teams. I mean, one
23:14
Speaker 1: that stands out to me of all time was when
23:15
Speaker 1: Steve Smith game in Baltimore and played Carolina and he
23:19
Speaker 1: had a seller game and delivered some Steve Smith asked
23:22
Speaker 1: quotes after that game in the way only he could
23:26
Speaker 1: you know, Calai has basically said yesterday, he's got a
23:28
Speaker 1: lot of friends, uh in Jacksonville. Still keeps up with
23:31
Speaker 1: a lot of people there. Um, And so there's gonna
23:34
Speaker 1: be you know, some fun kind of trash talk back
23:37
Speaker 1: and forth over the course of the game. Um. But
23:40
Speaker 1: I'm sure once those two guys get into that environment,
23:43
Speaker 1: they're gonna be wanting to prove something. It's only natural
23:45
Speaker 1: and so, um, I think that I don't think that's
23:49
Speaker 1: necessarily the main focus by any means for the Ravens,
23:52
Speaker 1: but for those two guys, I think that this game
23:56
Speaker 1: is no question, gonna mean a lot, absolutely going to
24:01
Speaker 1: be an interesting game on Sunday in Baltimore. Garrett Downing,
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Speaker 1: After Doug Brown's press conference yesterday, said something a little
26:44
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26:47
Speaker 1: state championship, and he said, I was just told my son,
26:50
Speaker 1: all the pressure is on you this Christmas holiday I said,
26:54
Speaker 1: I'm not pulling it home this year, so it's all
26:56
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Speaker 1: or a miserable family. That's exactly what I told him
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Speaker 1: to last night. His son plays for both high school
27:05
Speaker 1: who takes on Cardinal Gibbons this afternoon in the high
27:09
Speaker 1: school state championship, and sadly, Brian, it kind of felt
27:12
Speaker 1: for him because obviously coach Maroon can't go to this game,
27:15
Speaker 1: and I know your sons are in high school football
27:18
Speaker 1: and that would mean a lot to a dad. I
27:20
Speaker 1: can imagine. I can't relate, but it's all I can
27:23
Speaker 1: just tell you. I was part of a state championship
27:26
Speaker 1: high school football team in Long Ago, and meeting my
27:31
Speaker 1: dad after the game under the stadium after we won
27:35
Speaker 1: is one of the memorable moments in my life. I mean,
27:37
Speaker 1: football obviously shares a part between fathers and sons, or
27:41
Speaker 1: it always has um that that would be really tough
27:45
Speaker 1: to to know that he's playing for something so significant
27:48
Speaker 1: and not be there either way, to you know, congratulate
27:51
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27:53
Speaker 1: him if if it doesn't go bolls way, well, let's
27:57
Speaker 1: hope that it goes Bowls laying good luck to the animal.
28:00
Speaker 1: Sure be sure to ask coach Moran about that tomorrow morning.
28:03
Speaker 1: And now we go to top tweet number two, which
28:06
Speaker 1: is Lewis Riddick, who we watch on ESPN Monday Night football,
28:09
Speaker 1: has been said to be interviewing with the Detroit Lions
28:12
Speaker 1: and Houston Texans. Adam Schefter tweet that that the Jaguars
28:16
Speaker 1: have wanted to interview him as well, but nothing has
28:19
Speaker 1: been scheduled yet. And John, I guess this is I
28:22
Speaker 1: don't want to say the appeal, that's the wrong word,
28:25
Speaker 1: but letting a general manager go before the end of
28:28
Speaker 1: the season. There's already teams who have been doing that.
28:30
Speaker 1: It kind of seems like you have to start getting
28:32
Speaker 1: a move on because there are so many teams looking
28:35
Speaker 1: for a new and general manager this year. Well, you
28:39
Speaker 1: want to do your due diligence on everybody. And there
28:42
Speaker 1: are a few pools, if you will, to draw from
28:44
Speaker 1: on gms. One of them has become sort of the
28:48
Speaker 1: TV analysts pool. There's also a pool of gms who
28:51
Speaker 1: aren't in the league, so you want to make sure
28:53
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28:56
Speaker 1: crossed off your list. If you don't go that direction,
28:58
Speaker 1: because you can't talk to GM who were in the
29:00
Speaker 1: league until their teams are out of the playoffs are
29:03
Speaker 1: end of the postseason. So uh, it's it. It's hard
29:07
Speaker 1: to get to read. I get questions all the time,
29:09
Speaker 1: when will they hire a GM, Well, when Shod finds
29:11
Speaker 1: the right guy, But that could be a week before
29:15
Speaker 1: the season ish, a week after the season ends, is
29:17
Speaker 1: you know, I would think somewhere in there. But you know,
29:21
Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick is a intriguing name, as are some other
29:25
Speaker 1: TV name. Absolutely we're going to see much more of
29:30
Speaker 1: that coming here the next few weeks. Is going to
29:32
Speaker 1: stay in the conversation as we go to top tweet three.
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Speaker 1: Our guy d Rock always on top of it for
29:39
Speaker 1: ESPN and Doug Rome did say something else about Lamar
29:42
Speaker 1: Jackson and his press conference, saying scout team wise, they
29:45
Speaker 1: would basically have to have an Olympic sprinter to match
29:49
Speaker 1: what they're going to see on Sunday with Lamar Jackson
29:52
Speaker 1: and Brian. He mentioned that Jake Lewton was working on
29:55
Speaker 1: his forty time and it was improving. UM, but I
29:58
Speaker 1: have a feeling it's not going to match the ours
30:00
Speaker 1: just from Yeah. I watched Michael Vick play and Randall
30:06
Speaker 1: Cunningham play. Um, you know those were the guys who
30:10
Speaker 1: were thought to be just incredible, you know, speed merchants,
30:13
Speaker 1: but more so vic I watched Lamar Jackson and I
30:17
Speaker 1: think I have never watched a human move like that. Uh,
30:20
Speaker 1: you know, the way that he can change his direction
30:22
Speaker 1: on a dime and hit full speed. And maybe it's
30:25
Speaker 1: because he's a bit of a long strider. I don't
30:26
Speaker 1: know that he looks so much faster than everyone else
30:29
Speaker 1: on the field, but there are times where I think, oh,
30:31
Speaker 1: they got him here, and then no, they don't have him.
30:34
Speaker 1: His speed is unbelievable. It's an incredible addition to the game. Yep.
30:41
Speaker 1: And Doug Maron said, we're gonna have to take angles
30:44
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30:47
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