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- 0:01Sam: Hey, welcome to 7 Minute Books. I'm Sam, and today we're talking about When They Call You a Terrorist by Patrisse Khan-Cullors and Asha Bandele. Sophie, I have to ask, what did you expect going into this one?
- 0:14Sophie: I expected a book about the founding of Black Lives Matter, and it is that, but it's so much more. It's a memoir about growing up Black in America, about family, about grief, and and about love. Khan-Cullors and Bandele wrote something that feels like a letter to Black people, and it pulls you in from the very first page.
- 0:35Sam: Right, and the title itself is doing so much work. It's a refusal of the label that gets slapped on anyone who demands justice. To be called a terrorist for saying Black lives matter, that's language being weaponized against the very people who are most vulnerable to violence.
- 0:53Sophie: Exactly. The book dismantles that weapon and hands it back to the reader as a tool for understanding. So the book opens with Khan-Cullors' childhood in Los Angeles, right?
- 1:04Sam: Yeah, and that's where the book really got me. She grows up in a family that's poor but rich in love and resilience. Her mother is a single parent working tirelessly to provide, often at the expense of her own wellbeing.
- 1:18Sophie: And her father struggled with mental illness and addiction, cycling in and out of prison. That pattern became painfully familiar to Patrisse as she watched so many Black men in her community follow the same path.
- 1:33Sam: From her earliest years, she understood that the world saw her family differently because of the color of their skin. She learned that the police were not protectors but predators, and that the war on drugs was really a war on Black and Brown bodies.
- 1:49Sophie: Right, and those lessons weren't taught in school. They were taught in the streets, in the living rooms of grieving mothers, in the visiting rooms of county jails. That's the kind of detail that makes this book hit so hard.
- 2:03Sam: The relationship between Patrisse and her brother Monte is one of the most powerful threads. He was brilliant and creative, but he was also deeply troubled by a system that seemed determined to destroy him.
- 2:16Sophie: He was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and he cycled through mental health crises and encounters with law enforcement that nearly always ended with him handcuffed or hospitalized. Patrisse watched her brother be treated not as a human being in need of care but as a threat to be neutralized.
- 2:33Sam: That part really stayed with me. She saw how the same system that provided inadequate mental health resources for poor Black communities was all too eager to provide prison beds. Monte became a symbol of everything that was broken.
- 2:48Sophie: And she writes about him not as a cautionary tale but as a beloved brother whose humanity the world refused to see. Her love for him and her grief over what happened to him became a driving force in her activism.
- 3:03Sam: Then there's her awakening to her queer identity and the importance of intersectionality. She came out in her early twenties and found community among other Black queer activists who understood that the fight for racial justice couldn't be separated from the fight for LGBTQ rights.
- 3:21Sophie: That understanding became central to Black Lives Matter, which was led by queer women from the start and centered the experiences of those most marginalized within the Black community. She writes candidly about the homophobia she encountered in some corners of the Black community and the racism she encountered in some corners of the queer community.
- 3:42Sam: She refused to choose between her identities. She insisted that any movement worth building had to be a home for all of who she was. That's not just a political stance, it's deeply personal.
- 3:55Sophie: Right. And the founding of Black Lives Matter is often reduced to a single moment, that Facebook post after the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the murder of Trayvon Martin. But Patrisse doesn't diminish that moment. She expands it, showing how it was the culmination of years of organizing and heartbreak.
- 4:15Sam: She and her co-founders, Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi, created a hashtag that became a rallying cry, but they also built an organization that would grow into a global movement. The book takes us inside those early days, the late-night phone calls, the tense strategy sessions, the fear and the exhilaration.
- 4:38Sophie: And she's honest about the challenges. The internal conflicts, the external attacks, the exhaustion that comes from fighting for justice in a world that seems determined to resist it. She doesn't pretend the work was easy or that she always knew what she was doing.
- 4:55Sam: What she offers instead is a model of leadership rooted in love, in accountability, in the willingness to grow and change. That's something I think a lot of movements could learn from.
- 5:06Sophie: Yeah, and throughout the memoir, she refuses to let the reader forget that the violence Black people face is not abstract. She tells the stories of those who were killed, not as statistics but as human beings with families, with dreams, with futures that were stolen.
- 5:24Sam: Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Sandra Bland, so many others whose names have become shorthand for a crisis that shows no signs of ending. She also writes about the survivors, the mothers who turned their grief into activism, the communities that refused to be silenced.
- 5:43Sophie: Those stories aren't meant to inspire despair but to fuel determination. Patrisse believes that bearing witness is itself a form of resistance, that to remember is to refuse to let the powerful control the narrative.
- 5:57Sam: One of the most striking aspects of this book is its refusal to separate the personal from the political. She writes about her own struggles with anxiety and depression, about the toll that activism takes on the body and the spirit.
- 6:12Sophie: She writes about her relationships, her joys, her moments of doubt. She doesn't present herself as a perfect leader but as a human being who is still learning, still growing, still fighting. That honesty is disarming and deeply moving.
- 6:28Sam: It reminds us that the people who lead movements are not superheroes but ordinary people who have chosen to do extraordinary things. They get tired, they get scared, they make mistakes. What sets them apart is a refusal to give up.
- 6:43Sophie: The book also offers a powerful critique of the mainstream media and its role in shaping public perception of Black activism. She writes about how the movement was constantly misrepresented, how peaceful protests were portrayed as riots, how calls for justice were twisted into threats of violence.
- 7:01Sam: The frustration of watching news coverage that focused on a few broken windows while ignoring the broken bodies of Black people killed by police. She challenges the reader to question the narratives they're given, to seek out the stories that aren't being told.
- 7:17Sophie: The label terrorist, she argues, is not just inaccurate but dangerous. It dehumanizes, it justifies violence, it makes it easier to look away. And at its heart, this book is a love letter to Black people.
- 7:33Sam: Yeah, it's a celebration of Black resilience, Black creativity, Black joy, and and Black love. She refuses to define Blackness by trauma alone, insisting that the movement for Black lives is also a movement for Black flourishing.
- 7:50Sophie: She wants her readers to understand that the fight for justice is not just about ending violence but about creating a world where Black people can thrive, where they can be fully human, where they can love and be loved without fear. That vision is not naive but radical.
- 8:07Sam: The book also grapples with strategy and tactics. She doesn't shy away from the debates within the movement about how best to achieve change. The tension between electoral politics and direct action, between working within the system and tearing it down.
- 8:23Sophie: She doesn't offer easy answers but invites the reader into the complexity of the struggle. She shows how the movement has evolved, how it has learned from its mistakes, how it has adapted to new challenges. She's honest about the limitations of protest and the difficulty of translating outrage into lasting structural change.
- 8:44Sam: But she also insists that change is possible, that history is not fixed, that the future is still being written. And that's really the most important takeaway. Ordinary people have the power to change the world.
- 8:58Sophie: Patrisse was not a politician or a celebrity or a wealthy philanthropist. She was a young Black woman from Los Angeles who was tired of seeing her people die. She started with a hashtag and a group of friends and built something that would transform the global conversation about race and justice.
- 9:17Sam: Her story is a testament to the power of collective action, of grassroots organizing, of the kind of love that refuses to let injustice stand. She reminds us that we don't have to wait for permission to fight for what is right, that we don't need to be perfect to make a difference.
- 9:36Sophie: In the final pages, she reflects on what she's learned and what she hopes for the future. She writes about her son, about the world she wants him to inherit, about the responsibility she feels to leave something better behind.
- 9:51Sam: She doesn't pretend the struggle is over or that victory is certain, but she refuses to give in to despair. She writes with a kind of fierce hope, a hope that is not naive but hard-won, a hope that has been tested by loss and grief and still endures.
- 10:08Sophie: She calls on her readers to join her in this work, to find their own way of contributing, to believe that another world is possible. This book is not an easy read. It will make you angry, it will make you sad, it will make you want to do something.
- 10:23Sam: And that's precisely its purpose. Khan-Cullors and Bandele have given us a gift, a story that is both deeply personal and urgently political. It's a reminder that the fight for justice is not abstract but lived, not distant but here, not hopeless but full of possibility.
- 10:43Sophie: It's a call to arms and a call to love, a testament to the power of ordinary people to rise up and demand that their lives matter. In a world that too often tells Black people that they are nothing, this book insists that they are everything.
- 10:59Sam: The one thing I'm taking away is that bearing witness is a form of resistance. We can all do something, even if it's just listening and remembering.
- 11:08Sophie: And if you want to go deeper, the whole library is over on 7minutebooks.com/app, with over 6,000 fiction and nonfiction titles you can read or listen to in any language. It starts at $2.99 a month, $9.99 a year, or $19.99 once for lifetime access.
- 11:31Sophie: This book is a love letter to Black people and a demand for a world where they can thrive. We'll see you in the next one.