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Andy Cohen TELLS ALL! Nene Leakes, Kandi & Phaedra's S9 Scandal, New Love & His Legacy! · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so raindrops. The moment has come.
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  Speaker 1: This has been four years in the making since I
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  Speaker 1: started my podcast. I received a DM from this gentleman
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  Speaker 1: when it was announced that And he said to me,
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  Speaker 1: you are killing it, dude. He's always been a champion
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  Speaker 1: for me throughout the years of my work on Atlanta Housewives,
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  Speaker 1: Jersey Housewives. He's not only a mentor of mine, he
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  Speaker 1: is somebody who I think is just a special human,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's his success as a executive producer turned host,
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  Speaker 1: turned mogul, a five times New York bestselling author. And
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  Speaker 1: on top of that, he is somebody that I absolutely
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  Speaker 1: look up to.
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  Speaker 2: Give it up for the white Carlos King.
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  Speaker 3: That is the best. That is the best. Because you
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  Speaker 3: have been called the Black Andy Cohen, right? Yeah. All right. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's a compliment. Let's be clear. I love it. I
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  Speaker 3: love it. Let's be clear.
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  Speaker 1: It's the best compliment in the world. But no, give
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  Speaker 1: it up, y'all, for Andy Cohen.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Was that a surprise for you?
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  Speaker 3: That was so good.
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  Speaker 2: You know people are gagging right now.
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  Speaker 3: Let's gag him. Yes, yes, yes. No, I want to.
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  Speaker 1: Because, you know, listen, you are such a gem in
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  Speaker 1: my life and you always have been.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I knew you when you were a little one,
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  Speaker 3: a little tyke running around Atlanta. Those early reunions.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's been really fun seeing you grow. And
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  Speaker 3: it is so fun. When I was coming out with
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  Speaker 3: this book, which is celebrating 20 years, my 20 years
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  Speaker 3: on Bravo, I was like... I was like, this is
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  Speaker 3: the moment. I got to talk to Carlos. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that. And listen, I was up last
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  Speaker 1: night reading the book. First of all, it's such an
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  Speaker 1: amazing book. It's a scrapbook, not only filled with so
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  Speaker 1: many iconic photos, but you get to get into the
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  Speaker 1: mind of Andy as he sort of takes us on
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  Speaker 1: this journey, not only from each reunion.
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  Speaker 2: It starts off with Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: It culminates a little bit in terms of the cities
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  Speaker 1: of the reunions with New York City. So I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to get into like the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: And the end of the middle.
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  Speaker 1: But he also gives us like behind the scenes photos
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  Speaker 1: and stuff and watch what happens live. So we are
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  Speaker 1: here celebrating 20 years of a show, Andy, that you
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  Speaker 1: have been a part of since OC as a development
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  Speaker 1: executive at Bravo. Did you think for one second in
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  Speaker 1: that NBC office? that 20 years later, it will still
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  Speaker 1: be a monstrous hit that it is.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I remember when Lauren Selaznik, the show was
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  Speaker 3: called The Real Housewives, and she wanted to add of
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  Speaker 3: Orange County. And I thought that was the dumbest thing.
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  Speaker 3: And she said, well, we'll do that in case we
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  Speaker 3: ever do it in another city. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: we're not doing this show in another city. But Here
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  Speaker 3: we are. Here we are. And I wouldn't be where
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  Speaker 3: I am without these women and this show. And so... Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the, the book is a celebration of, of
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  Speaker 3: 20 years of my personal archive of photos. Every reunion
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  Speaker 3: show I turn to my left and I turn to
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  Speaker 3: my right and I take a photo on each side
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  Speaker 3: and they're all in this coffee table book. And so it's,
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  Speaker 3: it's really fun to be able to see it all
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  Speaker 3: in one place. And when you look through it, it's
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  Speaker 3: like going down memory lane of all these iconic moments
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  Speaker 3: before they happened.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's beyond iconic. And like I said, it starts
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  Speaker 2: off with Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, one of the best stories that I
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  Speaker 1: think really speaks to the genius that you are, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to the executives at Bravo, is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, right?
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  Speaker 2: Because you were like, why are we doing Beverly Hills?
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  Speaker 2: We have Orange County.
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  Speaker 1: And the producers said, oh, no, it's a little different.
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  Speaker 1: And you saw the casting tape. You saw Lisa Vanderpump.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm like you. I'm a young gay boy
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  Speaker 1: who loves soap operas. I'm a CBS girl, though.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm a Young and the Restless guy. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Dusilla Winters.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, my God. Victoria Rowell. Oh. Yes. Yes. Shamar Moore.
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  Speaker 3: We've had some fun with Shamar in the clubhouse. Yes. Absolutely. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yes, I'm a big. And then Mamie started
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  Speaker 3: dating John Abbott. That was crazy. John Abbott starts shipping
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  Speaker 3: the maid. I mean, come on. That was amazing. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That was really good.
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  Speaker 1: So looking at that, you see Lisa Vanderpump.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you're just like, you know, Susan Lucci, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. She's like Jackie and Joan Collins. And then you've
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  Speaker 3: got the Richards sisters on there who were child actors.
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  Speaker 3: And so once I saw that, it was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we have a show here. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we see that the show is now entering into its,
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  Speaker 1: what is it, 16th season, I want to say?
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  Speaker 3: I think so, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Around that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about in the book the moment Lisa Vanderpump
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  Speaker 1: did not show up to the reunion.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And how disappointed you were. Talk to us about that
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  Speaker 1: day because, listen, we've done reunions together.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, he's early. He has no team with him.
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  Speaker 1: He uses the girls, the housewives glam. You don't come
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  Speaker 1: with a makeup artist. You have your suit and your hanger.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like Andy is such not a diva. But
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  Speaker 1: you're there for like 15 hours. What hour did you
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  Speaker 1: know that Lisa Vanderpump was not going to come?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we knew the day before. You know, you always
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  Speaker 3: kind of hold out hope. And she was just, she
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  Speaker 3: was done. And she didn't, you have to, if you,
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  Speaker 3: when you show up to the reunion, you have to
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  Speaker 3: be willing to either meet someone halfway or at least
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  Speaker 3: have the conversation. And I think she was so over
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  Speaker 3: it and offended and felt that there was nowhere to go.
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  Speaker 3: You know, let's go back a few years to when
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  Speaker 3: Adrian Maloof did not show up to the reunion. And
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  Speaker 3: I talk in the book about, I don't love the
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  Speaker 3: way that I handled that moment. I was very flip
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  Speaker 3: and we had, I think we had t-shirts for everybody
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  Speaker 3: and I kind of threw Adrian's aside and I know
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  Speaker 3: she felt a certain way about it. And looking back
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  Speaker 3: on it, I thought maybe that wasn't the most, maybe
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  Speaker 3: that was a little petty of me. Believe it or not,
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  Speaker 3: I've gotten less petty over the years, Carlos. Yes, yes, yes, Carlos.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. I'm a grown man. Ha! I'm
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  Speaker 3: a grown man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're grown.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to that later. Oh, we will?
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  Speaker 2: That's like 30 minutes later.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: How grown you are.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, so, but yes. And then, you know, it also
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  Speaker 3: seemed crazy because we were all, you know, we were
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  Speaker 3: all thinking, wow, well, I guess that means she's not
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  Speaker 3: coming back. Of course, we were already in business with
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  Speaker 3: her on Vanderpump Rules. And we had a stacked cast
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  Speaker 3: at the time, but you never... You know, you, she
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  Speaker 3: was such a, she was such a centerpiece of that
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  Speaker 3: show in a, in a cast of centerpieces, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a world where you think she would ever
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  Speaker 1: come back?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. You know, it's funny. Beverly Hills
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  Speaker 3: is so small. She runs into Kyle like once a year.
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  Speaker 3: And they'll send each other something to their table with
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  Speaker 3: some snarky remark. I mean, it's quite funny. But I
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  Speaker 3: don't think so. I love it, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Even as, like, the godmother role.
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  Speaker 1: Like, we see Cynthia Bailey doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Carol's back on New York.
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  Speaker 3: Cynthia redefined the friend role. I mean, she really... Genius.
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  Speaker 3: She really... But Cynthia was so graceful when she left.
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  Speaker 3: And then when she came back in, it's like... I
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  Speaker 3: think last season was her first season as a friend,
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  Speaker 3: and she really was... She dressed up as Elmer's glue
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  Speaker 3: at Shamia's Halloween party, and she sent it to me,
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  Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm the glue. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you are the glue. So I don't think... Do I
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  Speaker 3: think Lisa Manor Bump is going to come back as
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  Speaker 3: a friend of? I don't see it.
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  Speaker 2: The godmother.
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  Speaker 3: The godmother. Okay, well, that's a nicer title. I think
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  Speaker 3: that's the new. So we're going to do this. We're
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  Speaker 3: going to start calling some friends of the godmother. The godmother. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Nymphid Billy's the godmother.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Carol Raswell.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You did that.
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  Speaker 3: Well. Carol and I have had a journey. Oh, I know.
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  Speaker 3: And I write about that in the book, too.
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  Speaker 2: That's what kept me up at night.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Because you were so honest about... Because listen, you're like me.
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  Speaker 1: You love all the girls.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes they're mad at you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Right?
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  Speaker 2: And you have developed friendships with these ladies.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. And, you know, Carol I knew for many years
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  Speaker 3: before she was... ever on the housewives, she came on
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  Speaker 3: the housewives kind of as a lark. I mean, we
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  Speaker 3: were at a dinner and she let it slip that
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  Speaker 3: she was a princess and we were blowing up the
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  Speaker 3: housewives of New York. And I was like, You're a princess?
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  Speaker 3: Does princess beat countess? Like, what does this mean? So
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  Speaker 3: it just seemed delightful and unexpected for her to join
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  Speaker 3: the show. But yes, I'm thrilled she's back too.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, we'll get back to that moment, but
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  Speaker 1: Roni is back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've been... Opinionated.
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  Speaker 3: So is everyone. Okay. And by the way, rightfully so. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take our lumps.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, listen, because, you know, I love my old gals.
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  Speaker 1: Not old in terms of, like, age.
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  Speaker 3: Understood.
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  Speaker 1: The legacy girlies. But I was sort of like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. This season, I must say, mazel.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. It's Carol. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite so far, because, you know, we're still watching
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  Speaker 1: the season.
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  Speaker 3: I love Daisy. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Hayley is insane in the membrane, loving her.
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  Speaker 3: And Erica is giving Paige DeSorbo vibes. And Erica in
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  Speaker 3: the interview chair is very funny and really relatable. She
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  Speaker 3: is a relatable billionaire queen.
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  Speaker 1: How proud of you, because, listen... You thrive in New
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  Speaker 1: York City. This is your town, right? And I know
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  Speaker 1: when it came to New York City, like with me
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  Speaker 1: and Atlanta, like Atlanta will always have a special place.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Atlanta and New York have always had a special
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  Speaker 3: place for me. I think because they've always been the
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  Speaker 3: funniest to me. And they've just, there's something so absurd
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  Speaker 3: about both of those shows in the best possible way.
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  Speaker 3: And so how proud am I that we got it
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  Speaker 3: back on track? Very. Yes. It was a very... It's
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  Speaker 3: been a journey. It's been a journey. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you look at Carol coming back as a way
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  Speaker 1: of revisiting legacy OGs or vets to come back to
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  Speaker 1: the show when the time is right?
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  Speaker 3: I view it as kind of a lark in a
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  Speaker 3: weird way, in a sense, maybe, but really what it was,
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  Speaker 3: was Carol for the last few years just felt like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we were, we would always say, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, of the legacy women, Carol is the one
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  Speaker 3: that kind of fits with this group the most. She has,
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  Speaker 3: you know, she's, seen them at the polo bar. I'll
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  Speaker 3: get sent pictures of Carol and Aaron or, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: seeing she's seen them around and she knows them. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: so when we brought her back, it was really because
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  Speaker 3: she had such a positive experience at Bravo con. She
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  Speaker 3: liked the new women. And again, we brought her back
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  Speaker 3: as a friend, really as a Lark and we upgraded
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  Speaker 3: her to holding an apple, uh, halfway through the season
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  Speaker 3: because she was so engaged and she was having so
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  Speaker 3: much fun. And so we thought, well, this is great.
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  Speaker 3: So there was no, I can't say that there was
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  Speaker 3: any big, you know, huge plan behind the scenes behind
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  Speaker 3: her being brought back. Besides it felt right and organic.
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  Speaker 1: You two obviously had a very public falling out.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: When it comes to you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How are you able to get past the negativity that
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  Speaker 1: these women may say about you at a time when,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're just going through a moment? And as
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  Speaker 1: someone who knows you personally, I know you love them
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  Speaker 1: and your phone is always on for them. You and
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  Speaker 1: Carol found your way back. How were you able to
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  Speaker 1: sort of work your way back to that relationship?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Carol was... I think Carol, it was time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we literally, I got an email from her at the
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  Speaker 3: end of her last season that said, don't speak to
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  Speaker 3: me again. And then I didn't run into her in
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  Speaker 3: New York City for seven years, eight years. And then
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  Speaker 3: she and I had another moment. It kind of flared up.
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  Speaker 3: And then she texted me out of the blue. And
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  Speaker 3: it was this long text. And she said, I realized
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  Speaker 3: I could do this in private. Instead of kind of
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  Speaker 3: on my Twitter. And there was something in her text
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  Speaker 3: that made me feel like, oh, she's this, there's something
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  Speaker 3: of an olive branch in here, even though I knew
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  Speaker 3: that she felt strongly about, you know, certain things. And
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  Speaker 3: then I just kind of met her halfway and told
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  Speaker 3: her where I was coming from. And we wound up
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  Speaker 3: through these texts. finding middle ground. Hilariously enough, I run
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  Speaker 3: into her a week later at the polo bar. Like,
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  Speaker 3: had not seen her in so many years. So that
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  Speaker 3: kind of began. Then we had her ring a doorbell
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  Speaker 3: on Watch What Happens Live, and it was just kind
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  Speaker 3: of this slow thing. So in that case, it was time.
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  Speaker 3: And in terms of a housewife that maybe is feeling
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  Speaker 3: a certain way about an edit or how they're being
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  Speaker 3: perceived or something, I really view that as part of
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  Speaker 3: the job, you know, if they're upset in a moment.
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  Speaker 3: And I certainly want, I always want them to end
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  Speaker 3: the season in a place where, you know, they feel
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  Speaker 3: better about it and we can move forward. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any former housewife that you will love to
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  Speaker 1: have that same reconciliation with?
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  Speaker 3: I think that, You're trying to ask me about Nene? No,
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't. Okay. Well, I think that I'll just say
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  Speaker 3: that I was really happy as we've been looking back
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  Speaker 3: on 20 years of Housewives. I was so happy. that
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  Speaker 3: we were able to celebrate her on Ultimate Girls Trip
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  Speaker 3: and that she came back. And I think that was
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  Speaker 3: such a, I think the fans wanted it. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it would have been really hard to do that
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  Speaker 3: show without her, especially going to Atlanta. And so I
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  Speaker 3: was really happy to be able to have her meet
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  Speaker 3: that moment and be on and Kiki and really get
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  Speaker 3: flowers from so many people. So, um, that made me really,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm a really nostalgic person. Yeah. And I
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  Speaker 3: think if you look through the book and you look through, um,
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  Speaker 3: especially what I, what I write about Atlanta and I
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  Speaker 3: write about my time with Nini, I mean, we really
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  Speaker 3: had some great times and just some absolutely killer moments.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, she made some historic television with you
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  Speaker 3: right there, right there with her. So, so I was
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  Speaker 3: really happy about that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, listen, one of the things that I think is
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  Speaker 1: beautiful about that is the fact that you know you
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  Speaker 1: and her have talked about the fact that you guys
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  Speaker 1: are back texting and you did reach out when you
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  Speaker 1: learned something was going on with her son yes and
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  Speaker 1: again i think.
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  Speaker 2: For the world it really does show your heart.
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  Speaker 3: Some things are bigger than the show and you know
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  Speaker 3: greg uh meant so much to so many people and
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  Speaker 3: to me included and i always loved him and he
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  Speaker 3: was always uh I think I used to call him
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  Speaker 3: Pastor Greg at the reunions. I just loved him. He always,
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  Speaker 3: he was always someone that I could call on at
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  Speaker 3: the reunion and he would kind of, he would kind of, God,
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  Speaker 3: what's the word? Neutralize things with his words and his
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  Speaker 3: guidance and his thoughts. And so I was so sad
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  Speaker 3: when he passed and, you know, certainly, yeah, some things
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  Speaker 3: are bigger than, then then the show and you have
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  Speaker 3: to look at uh life and um respect your journeys
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: in that way one thing.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: She said recently is the fact that she does not
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: want to peach yeah she does she does not want
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to be full time yeah um she would love to
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: maybe host the girls on a trip yeah for like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: three days and go back home yeah is that something
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you're open.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: To Who knows? I mean, you know, I've I've been focusing.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: It was such a big deal to get her back
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: on UGT and also it rebuilding. You talk about rebuilding
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: New York. We have really and I know that you
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: will understand the brick by brick process that we've been
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: in with Atlanta. And so I've been so in it
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: on that with Truly Original and rebuilding that show. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I'm so happy with where we're at right now. And
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I think you are too.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Listen. Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: You've been very... When it comes to my.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: opinions.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yes my opinions about atlanta yes right i know that
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it holds weight right and i know that i know
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that you know what it is yeah and i know
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that sometimes my opinions may come across a bit harsh
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: it's never my intention but all adults right but we
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: ran into each other recently in los angeles and you
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: said carlos i'm like are we back are we back
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: can like, oh, bitch, you're back.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's back. It's back. K. Michelle.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Pinky Cole. Angela Oakley. You know what I mean? The
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: show is back.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Does Angela give you some charade vibes in her casual reading?
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Can we talk? Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I am obsessed with Angela Oakley.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And as a day one Atlanta producer, every time I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: see her.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: You were like, whoa, what would she have been like?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: With the Nene, the Charades, the Kims, and all of
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: that of the world. She would have marveled. She's marveling now.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I think she's the best casting decision that show has
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: seen in a long time. I... I cannot get enough
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: of her. Even though I'm like, Angela, no more investigations.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: That aside, I think she's stellar.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She's so good.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: In the book, you talk about Atlanta, specifically season nine,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the Phaedra incident. In the book, you really
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: were transparent about... wanting to sort of guide Phaedra to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: sort of show some sort of like, you know, remorse
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: or just have more of a conversation with Candy. Obviously,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: since that moment, she was off the show. She's now back.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Candy has been very vocal about not coming back while
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Phaedra's on the show. Is there a world for you
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: where you would love to see Candy back on the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: same season as Phaedra?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I don't think, much like Um, much like to quote Nini,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: the door is closed. I think in candy's mind to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: that ever happening. And much like, I don't think Vanderpump
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: would come back if Kyle was on, because I just
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: think she feels like that's done. I, this, I mean,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the sense that I get is that candy feels that
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: way too. So, um, you know, look, we're filming a
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: new season right now. So that's not happening right now. I, uh,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I only go as far as I can see. So
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: here we are and we're filming and we'll see how
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: this season goes. And then, you know, look, life is funny.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: People make up, people fall out. They may run into
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: each other somewhere and have a moment and figure it out.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Who knows, you know, but That's kind of more, it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: like Teresa and Melissa. I just, at some point you
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: have to say, you know what? Y'all are going to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: do what you're going to do. And whatever you're going
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: to do, don't do it for us. Don't do it
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: for the cameras. And I remember when the two of them,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Teresa and her brother were going to go meet. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: had heard that they were going to go meet and
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: then they were starting to talk. And someone said, does
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: someone want cameras there? And I was like, we have
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: seen this on camera. We've seen you make up many times.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: If this is happening, you guys go do it and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: we'll catch up with you another time. We'll see if
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: this works. Sometimes you have to live your life and
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: then we'll follow what happens. So, you know, if that happens,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: we can't force anything to happen with those two. But
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: getting back to your original question, Phaedra at that reunion,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I was, I just thought that if she said, if
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: she said to candy, this is why I said it,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: or this was my motivation, or this is how I
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: was feeling, you know, maybe at least one, there would
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: have been some understanding in the room or there would
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: have been a way to talk through it a little bit. But, um, yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: that was, that was a done and done.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: One of the things that you also mention in the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: book is Orange County, which obviously is kicking off the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: 20-year celebration.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: You know, Vicky is back.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: You talk in the book about, you know, the moments
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: in the reunion. You know, Tamra's, that's my opinion. And
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: even her last reunion where... you kind of felt that,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe this show just isn't what she signed
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: up for anymore at that time. When you look at
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Vicky now, she's on UGT, she's on OC. She's very
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: polarizing to watch, right? I've had on my podcast as well.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw the feedback. People do sometimes wonder,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Vicky, has she outgrown the show?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that first of all, much like Nene,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think you could celebrate 20 years of Housewives
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: without Vicky. So when we picked Vicky up to do
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Ultimate Girls Trip, it was before we had decided to
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: bring her back to Orange County. And I think when
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I gave her the orange at BravoCon, I don't think
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: that they had shot Girls Trip yet. No. So, um,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: so what we shot girls trip, and then we shot
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: orange County a few weeks after that, actually, I think
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that if they had lived separately, the viewers might have
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: less of a strong reaction. Uh, so they happen to
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: be living at the same time. I, personally think that
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: her arc right now on orange County is really interesting.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: She is, we're looking at a woman. We have 20
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: years of this woman's life that we've been documenting. She's now, um,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: in her early sixties life in some ways has turned out,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: you know, not how she wanted and she has regrets and,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: She is looking at her life and how it played
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: out and decision she's made. And I think it's really
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: relatable in that way. I think there are other ways
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: that she's really over some of the stuff that comes
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: with being a housewife and the viewers are responding really
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: negatively to that. And that's fair. But I do think
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: that there would be less of a intense reaction if
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: those two shows were weren't airing at the same time.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Would you bring her back next season?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Who knows? We haven't shot the reunion. I don't even
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: know if she wants to come. I thought, we all
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: thought it would be important for her to come for 20.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And I don't regret that decision. I think it's really,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I think there's something, frankly, you know, kind of moving
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: about someone who has lived this life on television for
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: so long who's who has really serious regrets about letting
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: go of her marriage and there's another housewife who's wondering
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen with her marriage her reaction to
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: kyle on ultimate girls trip was much maligned for its
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: perceived insensitivity. But then when you dig into it, you
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: understand that she's saying, I regret what I did. You know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: don't make the same mistake that I did. So I
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: think there's something there. And, you know, where we go
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: from here, who knows?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of where we're going from here,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I love Miami.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Me too. Number one Miami fan. Carlos, if it was
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: up to me, we would be shooting right now. They
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: are the back picture of my book. Yes. So, yes,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I absolutely love Miami. And what can I tell you?
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: People say, why was it? Usually when a show is
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: not picked up. Why is that, Carlos? As a producer. Yes.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Why is a show not picked up?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Honey, it's all about the numbers.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Like, the thing is this. Here's the deal.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I watch Miami like this. And I belly laugh. I'm
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: obsessed with it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I get it. Stephanie was a great addition. I love
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: all the girls.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: So, you have K.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Michelle on Atlanta.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: And K.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Michelle is fantastic on Atlanta. And I work with her
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: on Love & Hip Hop.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Atlanta. So, I'm not surprised how great she's doing. She
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: is from Love & Hip Hop.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: There's another woman from Love & Hip Hop Atlanta named
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Jocelyn Hernandez.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, of course. Do you know her? Yeah, I know
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: who she is. Okay. Yeah. So, Andy. I think she
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: should be on Miami.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: So, let me tell you what she said.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Hear me out.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Okay. She lives in Miami.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: She has been very public about wanting to be a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Miami housewife.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: She has said publicly, Andy Cohen, that she's the reason
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: why the show is on pause because you don't have
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: her on it.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: That's okay. So she feels like.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: She feels like, tap me in, coach. Listen, if we
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: get a.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Green light, she's going to be the first person we
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: call to put on a casting tape. Okay. I mean,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: you know, there you go.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I think she'll be great.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I love Miami. If it was... I want people to
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: understand who reach out to me on social media, yell
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: at me about Miami. It was a show that I
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: was an executive producer for. If you have a show
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that you're producing, you want it to get picked up. Right, Carlos?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: It's sad when it doesn't.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It's not a good feeling.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So I would love for Jocelyn Hernandez, in addition to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Lisa Milan.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I love Lisa Milan.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: She lives in Miami now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Yes, I love Lisa Milan.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Lisa Milan at BravoCon two years ago came up with,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: she floored us in front of like 3,000 people when
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I asked Sharae, who makes that dress? And she said,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Alexander McQueen. And Lisa Milan said, Alexander McQueen or Alexander Sheen.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I fell to the floor. I mean, it
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: was Kenya Moore I thought was going to pass out.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was legendary. So, you know. I think
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: she'll be great. I think she'll be great.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: So that was my little advice in terms of how
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I felt like we could bring Miami back.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Get Jocelyn and Lisa Milan.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Now, we have to talk about you.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Yes. You are....
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: This media mogul. And I know you're humble.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I know this is the part of any conversation
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you hate talking about.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You don't like talking about yourself.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I mean, I love talking about myself. No, no.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, in the sense of— Have you met me?
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I meant in the sense of when someone reminds you
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of what you built, this empire you built for yourself.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: You are a little gay boy from St.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Louis. Yes, I am. Right? Yes.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Who watched soap operas.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Who, who's, who's auntie pour sweet tea on him because
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you were in the car just talking for two hours
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: on a road trip.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: You are living this dream.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I am. Yeah, I am.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Is it everything you thought it would be?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It really is. I can't believe it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like the luckiest guy in New York city. Um,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: When Watch What Happens Live started, I remember the first
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: night one of Watch What Happens Live, me and Danielle
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Staub with Sarah Jessica Parker calling in on the phone.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: And I went to the bathroom before we went live
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: and I looked in the mirror and I wasn't sweating.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I wasn't nervous. I was so at peace. and I
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: felt so lucky. I could not believe there was a
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: studio that I was walking into. That was a show
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: that I got to host. So, um, and to have
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: been a part of what I think is the greatest, uh,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: greatest unscripted soap opera of all time, uh, is, you know,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: absolutely everything I was ever interested in and more. So, uh,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you know, we just, we launched this Bravo verse on
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Peacock of this endless universe of clips of Bravo that
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: just keeps going and going and going. And it's like
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: this unbelievable well of memories, but incredible moments. And I
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: was talking to the folks who, who, who devised the
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Bravo verse. And I was like, Look, they kept sending
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: it to me saying, what do you think? And I
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: was like, look, we can't launch this until I love
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: it because I actually am the number one fan of this.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Don't get it twisted. Like, I love this as much
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: as you and anybody else who's watching.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And I want to say this about because I don't
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: think people know this and I want to not to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: cut you off, but I have to say this. Your
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: memory is impeccable when it comes to.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Idiotic moments that have happened.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Like, like, like, like, like when I was working on
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the show, you would call me and say, Carlos, like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you know, remember that moment where Sheree did this?
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: You should like, maybe.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, how the fuck do you remember that
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: with everything you have going on?
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: You love this more than anybody I know.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I really do. You do. Yeah, I really do. You
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: really do. Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Is it, is it sometimes hard to.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Be a part of something so big?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And not get the respect that you feel you deserve.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Because when I look at what Watch What Happens Live
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: has done, you have single-handedly built a late night show
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in cable that celebrates unscripted talent. Especially, not just the
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Bravo Leberties, unscripted talent, but you also got people like
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Julia Roberts on the show, right? Which I know you're like,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I got Oprah, Julia Roberts, Mariah Carey, switch seats.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, you have all of
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: these amazing people celebrating you.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Do you sometimes feel like you don't get the same
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: recognition as your talk show counterparts.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: You know what? There was a moment, excuse me. There was,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: there was a moment where I was in my feelings
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: kind of, um, at some point in the run, we've
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: been doing this 17 years now. I am, actually just
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: so happy to still be on the air and still
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: being able to do it. The TV landscape has changed. Colbert,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: number one show in late night, just won all these Emmys,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: gets canceled. So trust and believe that every year when
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: we get picked up, I am like, wow, we get
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: to keep doing this another year. And we have a
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: party that night and watch what happens live. So the
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: rest is... I feel respected by the people who matter
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to me and I just want the viewers to keep
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: watching and loving it. And so the rest is, it
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: really doesn't matter. You know?
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: When did you accept that for yourself?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know. I think around seven,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: years ago, maybe it's not, I don't know. Yeah, it
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: was both. No, it was before the 15th anniversary. It was,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: it was just, it got to a point where I
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: was like, wow, we're still doing this. And the, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: get out of your head, you know, there was a
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: vanity fair photo of all the late night hosts one year, um,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: in like 2014 or something. And I was really pissed
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that I wasn't in this picture. And Chelsea Handler was
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: in it, who was on E! at that time. And
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: James Corden was in it, whose show hadn't even launched yet.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: And I was like, well, I mean, I'm on at 11,
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever. And so, but again, yeah, I got
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: over it. I got over it. It's actually not important.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: It's not?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: No. It is not.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, listen, you are ambitious, right?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: So the thing is this. Are there still dreams you
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: want to accomplish? Because even so, like, there were people
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: who thought, like, okay, he's going to be with Kelly
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Ripa on daytime. You know, there were people, there were
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: words about that. First of all, was that a gig
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you wanted?
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: I think there was a moment where I thought that
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I did. But it never seemed ultimately realistic. First of all,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I was under contract to NBC Universal and I would
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: have had to leave something that I helped create and
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: build and was doing so. And the other thing is,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I think that it just, it didn't, it seemed exciting
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: and like a dream. And it's funny, I got one
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: of those, one of those digital frames recently. Do you
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: know one of those? And so I have one in
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: my office and one in my living room. In the
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: living room I put all these family pictures. And in
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: my office I've been throwing in all these photos from
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: just like more personal stuff that my kids wouldn't care about.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: But a picture of me and Kelly co-hosting live came
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: up from like one of my first times. And I
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: was like, I gotta put that in because It meant
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: so much to me. It meant so much that she
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: thought that I could do it. And it was a
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: really big deal and it was so exciting. And so
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I'm just, look, I treasure my friendship with her. And
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: also I have to say doing a show on your own,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I love doing my stuff with Anderson and he and
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: I are on the road and I love doing New
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Year's Eve with him. But, you know, when you host
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: a show by yourself.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: There's nothing like it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. It's pretty great, you know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: No, because you don't have to answer to anybody.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? And it's your stuff.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And I also, you know, I'm kind of
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: outside of Bravo, the last word on my show editorially. And,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: you know, so, you know, I have a great gig.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: But yes, there was a time where that would have
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: been cool.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to accomplish that you
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: haven't yet in terms of your career?
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Not really. I mean, everything right now is gravy. I
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: love doing long form interviews. I love being on the
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: radio and being able to sit with someone for longer than,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, my show is so frenetic and
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: it's fast. And so it's like short attention span theater.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: So I like doing long form interviews, but I'm, I'm, I'm,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: I'm really, Happy and settled. Yes.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Oprah retired. the Oprah Winfrey Show 25 seasons.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: You're at 17.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Do you see yourself doing it? Watch What Happens Live
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to 25 seasons.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: We are picked up through 18. Okay. And so through
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the end of 2027. So again, I only go as
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: far as I can see. I hope they will pick
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: it up for another year after that, but I only
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: go that far. I would like to keep the Housewives
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: going for as long as humanly possible. I would like
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: to keep Radio Andy and Andy's Kiki Lounge going for
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: as long as possible. And again, I just don't, you know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I just, that's all I can think about.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: When it's all said and done for you.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Like when you retire and you hang up the microphone.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Retire? Well, listen.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I know, I'm just kidding.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: When you hang up the microphone.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Is there anybody you can see yourself passing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: The torch to? I think that will become apparent if
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: it ever would come to that. I can't imagine saying,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: I want to leave Watch What Happens Live and hand
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: it to somebody. You know what I mean? I think
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I will go down with that ship unless something absolutely
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: terrible happens or I get canceled or something and they're like,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: We're doing this without you. But, you know, so, but I, again,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: that's not something that I really think about.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: You have his glow.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: It's not the J-Lo glow.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay? Yes.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: But you have his glow.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, Carlos. Okay. What's the glow?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: You have a glow of a man that looks like
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: he's in love.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: I'm in love.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: You are in love.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. Yeah. You are. Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Is this the first real love that you've ever felt
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: in your life?
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: No, but it's a really adult, grown-ass love of a
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: man with two kids who I know myself better than
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I've ever known myself. I'm more settled than I've ever
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: been in my life and where I'm at and where
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I want to be, which is right where I am.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: And so it's very centered. It's very centered. It's very calm.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: And I'm very sure of it. You are. Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: When did you realize he was the one? Because, listen,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I've known you for a long time. I've only known
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you to have one other boyfriend. You kept that very private, right?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to say anything about that. But
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: that was very private. And this one... I was surprised.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: That you made this one public.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Well, it was made public. Uh, we were like holding hands,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: leaving a restaurant and a paparazzi got us, but we
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: had been holding hands for a year all over the
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: West village and nobody really in, in restaurants. I mean,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: we literally sit in restaurants holding hands. So, and nobody
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: said anything. So, um, So that happened. I would have
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: said something eventually because I do demand a certain level
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: of transparency to the people who are in the chair
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: across from me. And so I thought, and I was
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: saying to him around that time, at some point soon,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to let the cat out of
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: the bag because I'm really happy. And I want to
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: share that with people, but also it just seems a
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: little hypocritical not to, not to, you know, speak on
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: it when I kind of demand it of others. And
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I also speak so much on the radio. I mean,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I'm on the radio, um, uh, four mornings a week
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm, I'm, I'm talking a lot about myself and
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: my kids and everything else. So it just seemed natural
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: that that would happen.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: How did your kids feel about him?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: They love him. They really love him. Yeah. And we
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: didn't tell them until uh, eight months into dating that
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: he was my boyfriend. So I really let them fall
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: in love with him. And they did before I ever
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: said anything. And then, you know, I said to my
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: son first, I got, I got to tell you something. Um,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: he's my boyfriend. And he was like, Oh daddy. He
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: was like, he goes, Lucy and I just love him
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: so much. And you love him. And you've wanted a boyfriend. And,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: now you have one. And it was so sweet. And
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: he was just, it was everything I would have wanted
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: it to be. And it's so funny because for, for,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: you know, for the last few years, he would say
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to me, daddy, why don't you have a boyfriend? And
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I haven't met the right guy. And
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: he'd be like, what about John Mayer? John Mayer, he's
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: not doing this. And he's like, what about Bruce, who
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: is my best friend? I love Bruce. Yeah, Bruce is great.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Bruce is married. He is? Yes. I
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: know Bruce is married.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: My bad, Bruce.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Yes. Anyway, so yeah, no, it's been a beautiful, it's
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: been a beautiful thing.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: You know, the girls gag when they saw your boyfriend.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: First of all, he's, he's, he's, he's hot. Well, you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I showed the girls all at Bravo con. And let
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: me tell you something about the real housewives.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I was showing his picture to, I
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: showed Giselle a long time ago. Um, I showed a
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: lot of the girls at Bravo con, uh, What Portia
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: was so funny when I showed her, she goes, oh,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: he's older than you. I was like, he's not, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: you just made my day. So no, they kept the secret.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: No, he's very hot. Some people were shocked because they
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: expected you to be a black man.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: I know. Well, I said on Potomac famously.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: But I've been like the UN, you know, you know.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: All flavors.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Yes. All colors. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The thing that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this, because you, I mean,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: you're in your skin, so I don't think you really
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: see what we may see.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: So outside of you, you're a big fucking deal.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Thank you. You're really nice. No, no, no, no. You're
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: being very nice to me. No, I'm not. What do
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: you want from me?
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Do you have time?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: No. Okay. So, no, no. The thing is this. Okay.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Like, you can't walk down the street anymore without being recognized.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Like, that's your life. You know what I mean?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: So, you know, as I'm watching Roni... You're a big deal, too.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Yes. Okay. And I'm not.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, not as big as you, honey, but, you know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I receive that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: We're not measuring our dicks right now. But.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: You're in a relationship with a guy who's not a celebrity.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: And did you ever see Love Story?
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't watch it. Okay. Yes. Okay.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I watch it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And obviously I'm watching Roni and the top of this
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: earlier season, they were talking about it. You know, Caroline
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: dating JFK, this big celebrity.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: And she felt like.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I love it that I'm the JFK Jr. You are.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Am I the Jew FK Jr. In this story? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Good.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yes. Okay. Okay.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously up until. dating you, he was a private citizen.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Is it challenging for him?
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't care for it. Yes, he doesn't care
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: for it. He doesn't like it.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: How do you protect that relationship to where your celebrity
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't really need it?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: We only go as far as we can see. Okay.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: And it's why on my radio show, I really don't,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I refer to him. I don't talk that much about us.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I kind of refer to him as my guy or
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: my fella or my boyfriend. I mean, and, um, you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: when we go to a work thing, um, and he
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: comes with me, then, you know, he understands how this
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: all works. He's a very smart adult person. So he'll
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: be in a photo with me and, you know, that's that.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: But I mean, the great thing is he's not, by
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: the way, he's never seen the housewives. I got him
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: to watch traders. Um, I really wanted him to come.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: It was very important to come to the ultimate girls
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: trip premiere party with me because those women on ultimate
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: girls trip and many more of the women who were
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: going to be at the party were, I mean, Karen
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Huger was there and Cynthia was there and, people who
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I really love and, and I've been in business with
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: for many, many years. And I wanted, I was excited. Look,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I've met all of their people. Yeah. Them to meet
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: my person. He had a business trip and he had
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: to leave the, one of the great thing is he's
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: very busy and he has a very, uh, busy job
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: and life. And that's great because it keeps me engaged
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: because if I was dating someone who was always around,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: that wouldn't be amazing. It's great because we're both busy
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: and we have our own things going and we kind
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: of meet in the middle. What was the question? He
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't want this. Did I answer it? No, you did
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: answer it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Wedding bells?
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, Carlos, I only go as far as I
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: can see. Okay.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: So when it comes to you, you are now- I really.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you're doing all of this without any questions.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't write down questions.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because the thing is this. Great.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I'm a journalist.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Right?
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: So, I like to, like... I do all my research.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Remember when Portia said on the reunion that she was
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: a journalist? And you're trying to... And I was like... Yes.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: And you said, really?
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: She said, oh, really? You're trying to.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Don't play my job?
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I know. She was mad. And you were like, okay.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: So, that leads me to this.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: When it comes to you, right, you have had your
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: moments with these girls on Housewives at the reunions, and
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you talk about it in the book. So I want
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: to talk about a few moments that I always wanted to.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Know how you felt.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Like, the portion was a good one to kick things off.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: You were like, okay, girl, my bad.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: When you were at the reunion this past Beverly Hills.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: And you had Kyle on one side and Dorit on
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the other.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: And you asked Dorit a question. You're like, well, Dorit.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: She goes, why don't you ask her? I mean, I
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: don't think I thought. Did I react? Did I do like.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: You did this. Yeah. She's like, she's right there.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: You asked her and you said, yes, she is.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right. The answer is it was when I left
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: that day, I did not think twice about it. These days,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: as you know, are so long that even when I
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: got pushed by Teresa, it was like hours later that
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, wow, she pushed me. You know what
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like it's, you were in such a, you're
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: so shell shocked after the unions. It's so dramatic and
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: intense for real that sometimes you don't remember these little things.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: And then I'm watching a cut and I'm like, Oh,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: caught a stray yes what else did you want to
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: ask me about.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: So so you have that moment yeah you also have
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: a moment when you're hosting reunions of roni back in
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the day and you're like sitting there you wore a
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: black suit with a black tie white shirt underneath okay
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and you're like shut up yes okay that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Was the first time i yelled at a group of
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: housewives and i i don't like yelling having to yell
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: to get everyone's attention and so many times viewers are
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: watching and they say why can't he control them i've
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: gotten way better at it but it's hard as you
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: know yeah um so yes i was losing my mind
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: then the new york women in the early years i
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: was so entertained by them and it was so funny
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: but also they would make me kind of lose my
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: mind in a way yeah.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: No So because of that, everyone talks about the most
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: iconic moments from Housewives. But you also have iconic moments too.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to present you with something. So I
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: bought you a gift.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. I'm excited. I'm gonna rip it. You
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: made me my own book, the book of Andyism. 12
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: iconic reunion lines from the king of the cue cards,
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: a table book. Wow. I have my own coffee table
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: book and you made me a coffee table book.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I made you one.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Wow. This is amazing. Of Andy's. First of all, I
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: love the cover art. Oh, I mean. Yeah.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, this is so funny. My cards. Vanderpump rules.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: The cue card casualty. Oh, this is so nice, Carla.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, that was all.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: You signed it. My cards. You are a disaster on Twitter.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: To Candice. Look at this. Wow. I mean, do we
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: have time to update my book to add all these?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Has it gotten better? Um, well, she acted out a
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: little after traitors.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Okay. Shut up, shut up, shut up. New York city
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: season four, the shut up meltdown. Actually. No, I'm not honey.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Real outside of New York. I remind Ramona exactly who
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: is and isn't on reality TV. Can we bring the
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: bunny out? Amazing. Shut up. I got a dinner reservation. Honestly,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: that was when Teresa and Margaret wouldn't stop fighting. Now
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't love that one because it made it seem
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: like I had something better to do than being there.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: And the truth of the matter is I was, I
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: was there and I didn't have anything better to do.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I should be there. You guys are acting like beasts today.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Housewives of New York. I remember that one at a time.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: A noble request. Rarely honored, he says. We have to
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: move on. Multiple Bravo reunions. The reluctant pivot. That is
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: so funny. Who is the thirstiest? A tiny superlative. That's
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: not a no. The Morgan Wade question on the Housewives
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: of Beverly Hills. Well handled. This is so great, Carlos. Yes,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: it's for you. Let's watch.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: I love. This is great.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's for you. It's for you.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure you had that.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: It's great.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Now, I couldn't let you go without turning the page
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: on you.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: So, Andy Cohen.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Now is the moment for you.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: To plead the fifth. Okay.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: You ready for this?
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Jamie can't wear glasses. You know, I'm in my 40s, child. So,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: these eyeballs ain't what it used to be.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: How old are you now?
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I'm 46.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: No, what you say is, I'm 46. Okay. All right. No,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I'm happy. I'm happy. Look at where you are in
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: your life. I'm blessed. Yes.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I have no complaints.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Look at what you know, where you've been, and where
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: you're going. No complaints. Yes. At all. At all.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: So Andy Cohen, plea the fifth. I'm going to ask...
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: This is so funny doing this with you.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Because I have to explain the game that you created.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: You really don't. You have three questions and I may
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: plead the fifth to only one. Only one. Okay. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: hope I don't plead the fifth to any of them.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: You ready for this? Yes.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Which celebrity will you never invite back to watch what
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: happens live and why?
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Um... Gosh. I mean, I've talked about this before so
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: many times and I hope it doesn't get picked up
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: because I actually feel like it's like it's so anyone
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: who's listening is like page six or us weekly, you
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: don't have to pick this up because Google it. It's
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: been picked up like 18 times, but Jillian Michaels, because
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: when she left, she like screamed at half my staff.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know what she was mad about. She hates me.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: So yes.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: The fitness lady. Oh, I'm aware. An expert on a
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: new expert on slavery. Apparently.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm very aware.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yes. Of course. Yes. Okay. Okay.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Name one housewife Bravo fired that you personally did not
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: agree with.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Well, you know we don't fire housewives. Paul. Everyone leaves
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: at their own volition. No, no, no.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I have decided to focus on my family, my businesses.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead. I feel I don't have regrets about
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: when we've let go of people, it's been for a reason.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I don't have any regrets. Okay. There are people that
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I wish wouldn't have left the show. I mean, we
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: talk about Lisa Vanderpump. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Have you ever hooked up with a celebrity that ended
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: up being a guest on watch what happens live?
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: No. I mean, Lance Bass, we've talked about. Again, that's
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: been picked up so many times. Don't pick it up. Again,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: he's a married man. He has children. We have talked
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: about this so many times. Him. Who else? I mean,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: that's the name I'm giving you. There may be one
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: or two more. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: My last question.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: You didn't play the fifth. I didn't.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: That wasn't too bad, was it?
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: No, not at all. Okay, okay.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: So, Andy Cohen.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: What advice do you have for me?
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, I... You don't need any advice. I think when
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: you started... Yes. I think in my mind, I had
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: some advice for you, but I actually think you figured
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: it all out. I think you are... I think you're
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: doing a great job. I think you are. Um, so it's,
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: it's not even worth me saying because, and I, I never,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: you and I never had the conversation, but I think
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: you figured out the way to like, you're very, you're
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: smart in the way you express yourself. And you can be,
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: people want to hear what you think. Uh, and I
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: think you're very smart about the way that you express it. And, um,
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: so that you can also continue. People don't realize for
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: someone who is producing a show and comment on other
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: shows and also interviewing people from their own show, there
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: is a middle ground that you have to, you have
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: to figure out a way to be in the middle
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: while also giving people what they want, which is opinions and,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: and attitude and all that. But at the end of
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: the day, you have to keep producing the shows you're producing,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: be in business with people, get people to come on
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: your show. You are going to be asking Bravo for things.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: You may be pitching Bravo for shows. And I think
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: that you found your voice. You found your voice. So
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: I don't have it. Okay. You found your voice.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: And I do want to say this.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I said this to you personally, but I'm the type
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: of person, this is just me, where, listen, you know
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: there's people who think you and I have this beef.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Do they? Yes.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Well, why?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Don't they know what we've been through? I'm the black
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: Carlos Gale. I'm the black Andy Cohen. No, the thing
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: is this. I think- I'm the white Carlos. No, I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: know what you mean. I know what you mean.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: No, I think what has been unfortunate, and it's nothing
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you have done.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Listen, people- Yeah. Everybody thinks everything. Yes, but my- It's nonsense.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You have always been someone. I remember one of the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: first conversations we've had, and the advice you've given me.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: You've always- reached out to me to give me advice.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: When things were happening on production, you have called me
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: to say, it's going to be okay. We love you.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: We got you and all those things. And when I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: did get my podcast, you sent me the sweetest message.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: And I do want you to know from my mouth
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: to your ears, I'm able to do everything I'm doing,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: hosting reunions for my own shows, having a podcast, because
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: of you.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You have paved the way for me.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: And I never get offended when people say you're the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: black Andy Cohen.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Because I know the weight that it carries.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I hope you wouldn't get offended.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I don't get offended. I don't get offended.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And what I've always said to people is, my hope
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: one day is that you guys can see both of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: us as individuals.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: But let's be fucking clear.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I'm able to host reunions because, Andy, you have shown networks.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: That it can be done.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: And I just need for you to know that I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: love you, I respect everything you have done, and I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: really am so happy that you said yes. You could've
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: said no, not the time. You literally said yes to me,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: and I don't take that for granted.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I'm so proud of you. I mean,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: I remember being at reunions in the early days of Atlanta,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: and you were And you were, I'd be, I'd be like, Carlos,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: is that right? Is she telling the truth? And you'd
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: be like, so I'm really proud of you. And yeah,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for everything you've done and I was really
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: excited to have this conversation. And looking back on 20
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: years of Housewives and celebrating the release of Andy's Bravo scrapbook,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: which makes the best freaking Christmas gift, you guys. And
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: you are going, if you love Bravo, you are going
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: to love this book. It is truly behind the scenes
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: from my vantage point. These are photos, Most of which
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I have taken and I take you through backstage, uh,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: of everything. And I put a lot of opinions in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: there that you've been waiting for. And so I was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: really excited to come talk to you and I can't
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: think of a better time to do it. And I'm
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: really excited for you and I'll just be, keep watching
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: and cheering you on. Yeah. Likewise. Likewise.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: So listen, raindrops, the raindrops, you need to have a
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: name for your, it's fine.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: We got to come up with one.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: You know what? We've been trying on Radio Andy and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: it's like, eh, Fandies, all these ridiculous things.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I like the Fandies.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: It's fine. You don't like it. I don't need the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: name of my people. Okay. They're fine.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: So listen, Raindrops. It's in stores today, okay? So please
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: pick up a copy. We're talking about a five-time New
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: York bestselling author, okay?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen, ladies and gentlemen. Gays and days. Give it
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: up for him.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. That was great.
• 1:04:00
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:09
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