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Nick Fuentes, Hunter Biden & Andrew Callaghan Debate The End Of The World · Papa Gut

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  You know what you would call wokeness?
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  The left in a way kind of created this climate.
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  Any joke, any edge lording, anything like that.
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  Cancel culture was so in OverDrive.
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  What's worse, the left being cringe or the right to being?
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  I'm not talking about Twitter, I'm talking about the fucking
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  government. Really.
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  In 2021, when Trump got banned from the platforms, it felt like
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  70 million people got cancelled. We can't participate in the
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  process. He was still running for office
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  citing a fucking insurrection. I mean, I guess he wouldn't care
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  because Fuentes was at the insurrection.
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  I was like, mom, dad, it was awesome.
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  You believe that some people took you the context, and I do.
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  I do agree. That's the strategy.
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  Even if he didn't believe the way that people were portraying
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  him, he's the people that were portraying him and it blew up in
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  your face. White people do feel like we are
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  being boxed out. There's no Irish neighborhood in
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  Chicago. They're literally there is.
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  I mean, there's some remnant in Bridgeport.
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  He. Instantaneously walked back but
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  it doesn't matter because his audience isn't interested in
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  like what the fact of the world is.
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  It's all feelings based but. You've got to understand, my
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  wife is Jewish. The cookies in the oven?
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  Well, that's a joke. It hurts, I like Hunter Biden
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  but dude you're just not getting the point.
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  The joke is an excuse. He's saying something.
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  He means you're getting trolled. All right, dudes, let's watch
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  this video. It actually looks interesting.
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  I honestly never would have expected this interesting trio
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  here, Hunter Biden, Andrew Callahan and Nick Fuentes.
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  I'm kind of shocked. I know Hunter Biden's on his his
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  like tour, his publicity. So I think he's trying to run.
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  I think he's simultaneously trying to like better his image
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  because he did get a bit of a raw deal, you know, But I think
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  he's also throwing in for a run. I mean, why not?
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  Oh, he's a drug addict. Well, at least he's not a
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  pedophile, A rapist. That's just run the country,
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  right? Anyway, I'm kind of interested
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  in this. It's going to be strange.
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  I don't know what the Hell's going on.
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  We're going to watch it really quick.
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  All right, babies. So let's do it.
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  All right, so let's get this party started, baby.
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  Let's go. You said you want to ask me why
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  are you a Nazi? Inclusion and has been our
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  greatest strength. Diversity has.
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  Been our greatest great. People do feel like we are being
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  boxed. Out.
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  I don't feel that way. 26 year old white kid doesn't feel like
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  he has access because he's been cancelled and the problem is
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  black people. I didn't say the problem's black
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  people. It kind of is, yeah.
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  You just did, Nick, You just said.
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  Problem is crime, and we know who's doing the crime in
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  Chicago. Do you get what I'm saying?
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  Yes. But the rest of the world?
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  About the Holocaust things, Oh. About that, we get to say
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  whatever we want on the Internet.
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  We get to deny the Holocaust as far as Jews.
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  Are concerned in general? Not really.
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  That's not really nice. It's actually kind of mean.
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  I think that everybody in the country should be treated with.
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  It's kind of mean. Dignity and respect and have
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  their civil rights. Like, what do you think about
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  somebody like Mom Donnie? Personally I don't like him.
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  Like for example. I like Mom Donnie a lot.
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  On 4th of July, when he takes the opportunity to sit there
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  with, let's be honest, not a single white person.
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  There's a there's a white guy back there.
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  He's he's hanging out in the back.
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  About fucking Donald Trump. There's no ideological core in
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  Donald Trump. No.
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  I agree with Don Junior got the largest loan ever given by the
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  Department of Defense. Vance owes his entire political
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  career to Peter Thiel, whichever firm is the one to develop ASI
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  that could confer dictatorial like powers upon the CEO of that
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  company. Everything that we think about
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  the way in which we exist in the world completely change it.
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  Increasingly with Uber, Airbnb, banking apps, you can't live
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  your life without the tech platform.
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  Everything that AI is built on. Well, I mean, yeah, I guess
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  that's part of the the goal is to get you completely dependent
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  on to them. Is ours.
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  That's what they're stealing from us.
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  I want to find common ground of of how much of A shithead Donald
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  Trump is. We can get there.
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  We can get there OK. I like that.
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  I like that Nick point that's helped to get him elected.
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  And I was like, yeah, he's a shithead.
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  Like bro, you kind of got him elected, but.
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  The kind of first question that I had whenever I caught wind
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  that you wanted to do an interview like this is, you know
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  why now, what made you want to sit down for this kind of
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  interview? Well, I think it's an
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  interesting conversation. I mean, Nick has always tried to
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  insert himself into every conversation he possibly can
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  with people that are like equal to or greater than him.
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  And it worked. It worked.
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  I mean, he's insane. I mean, you really can't deny
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  how fucking popular this guy is. It's it's like almost madding at
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  a certain point, You know, it's like, Jesus Christ, he's like 20
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  something. He's young too, and he's just
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  been kind of inserting himself into a different disc where he's
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  27. Damn, I'm fucking old, man.
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  It's not that young, but it's still pretty young.
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  But he's a young man and he's he's certainly inserted himself.
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  So we. Have all of us here and you
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  know, I think it's a moment in our country when there's a lot
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  of realignment. You know, I think that people
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  recognize especially in the past couple of years, I'm like a non
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  conventional critic maybe I guess so of what's happening.
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  And so I think it'll be an interesting productive
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  conversation. I think it'll be different.
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  But I mean specifically because we kind of share a publicist, I
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  heard that you wanted to kind of OK.
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  We have a. Well, that that was a little
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  rough publicist. That you hit up and you said
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  that you wanted to talk to someone who would give you kind
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  of a fair shot to like clear up some things and maybe some
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  misconceptions about you and the things you believe.
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  Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Oh. God, what are we going to hear?
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  He's going to say he's not racist.
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  Is that what it's going to be? Yeah, I think that, you know,
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  I'm somebody who I think like you actually, maybe we have this
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  in common, is kind of pigeon holed in a certain way for
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  things that we've done in the past or things that we've said.
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  I'm a crackhead, but I'm racist. I got.
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  A pigeon hole there. Well, Trump also ran like, a
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  massive, like, disinformation campaign against Hunter Biden.
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  I'm not saying Hunter Biden's like, a good, amazing person.
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  Like, he's definitely an addict, but like, you know, there was no
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  laptop controversy. The guy's penis was on a laptop.
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  There was really nothing there. Mine is true.
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  Yeah, my. Mind's a little true, maybe a
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  little no, but yeah. So I I think it'd be good to
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  clear up some of the misrepresentations and and put
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  out something accurate. So what do you think is the most
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  misrepresented thing about you? Well, I think really the whole
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  image everybody has about me, you know, when you mentioned me,
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  I think on a recent show, you said you want to ask me why are
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  you a Nazi? And that's how everybody knows
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  me. Everybody thinks of me as white
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  supremacist Nazi he is. And I don't think that's really
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  true at all. He is, he thinks Hitler's
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  awesome. This is this is The thing is
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  that like Nick Fuentes will kind of do this little game that he
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  plays where he says provocative shit on on the Internet for
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  attention and it's always racist.
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  And then when you talk to him, he's like, no, no, I don't
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  actually hate black people or Jewish people or anything, but I
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  just think that they should like live in a different country.
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  Like that's, that's the game that he plays, You know, So like
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  the words that he says does communicate that he is some kind
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  of a supremacist. The way that he talks
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  communicates that he's kind of a coward.
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  And then he kind of meets in the middle of this communication and
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  that's why I think people will talk to him because he's kind of
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  just like he comes off as very non threatening, comes off like
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  as a little bit like a like a little Weasley, like a non
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  threatening Weasel or something. So people feel comfortable
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  existing around him in some capacity.
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  I think that we definitely have different values.
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  I mean, you're more from the left.
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  I'm more from the right, right. I don't think I'm a hater.
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  I'm not a hateful person. It is Heil Hitler Friday.
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  Heil Hitler. OK, Morgan.
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  Hitler was very fucking cool. Yes, yeah.
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  And then he'll hide behind like, oh, I'm just trolling.
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  It's just a troll. It's just a joke.
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  Everything's a joke. But usually when it comes to
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  like right leaning jokes, the joke is to just say like a slur.
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  It's one of the most unintelligent things in the
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  world. They'll the joke is to just say
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  a slur and it they don't make like a funny joke.
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  It's like, oh, look like, you know, I say this all the time.
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  I think it's funny. They're like all black people,
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  like anime. I think it's the funniest thing
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  in the world to me because it's kind of true.
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  You can't go into a hot topic without seeing a normal looking
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  black guy. But for them it's just like
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  fried chicken jokes. And who the fuck doesn't like
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  fried chicken? In fact, I mean Popeyes is hands
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  down the best fried chicken in the entire world.
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  At least my world and my world is Popeye's.
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  KFC is just fucking dookie ass bullshit, right?
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  That's one of the that's one of the things that drives me up a
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  fucking wall. It's like how low IQ these
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  people can be when it comes to this shit.
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  I do one of them. And I'm tired of pretending he's
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  not. So what's the thing about, I
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  guess, traditional Nazism that you think you disagree with the
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  most? Well, it's a it's a non
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  Christian ideology. What?
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  Are you talking about Nazis? Worked incredibly closely with
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  Christians. What?
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  So I mean, look, I believe that race is real is the.
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  What are we talking about? I don't even think that.
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  I didn't even think that after, after everything like dialed
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  down. They didn't even like nobody in
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  the church that helped protect Hitler.
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  What are we we talking about? What?
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  Yeah, It was overwhelmingly a Christian nation.
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  They worked with the church to help like fucking basically
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  enslave Jewish people. What the fuck are you talking
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  about? It's weird whitewashing of
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  history. It's so fucking strange all the
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  time dude. The Nazis did, but I don't think
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  it utterly defines a person as a Christian.
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  I think we're all created beings.
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  I do believe there's such a thing as a universal human
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  community. And so I think it's a cruel
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  ideology. I've said this on my show, by
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  the way. But I mean, that would maybe be
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  the fundamental. Did you always feel that way?
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  Always. Yeah, absolutely.
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  So even whenever you were younger and stuff.
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  I did. I did.
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  But you know, you got to recognize times have changed. 10
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  years ago we had a totally different political world.
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  The regulation and policing of speech.
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  You know what? OK.
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  What you would call wokeness I think was at an all time high
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  when I got started as a very young.
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  Man, what would you would call wokeness?
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  Yes. There was really, it was just
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  the Internet being cringed. This is one of the things, it's
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  always so funny to me the way that we talk about the Internet
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  because when the this is all online stuff, when the Internet
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  first started, it was just insane.
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  People on the right just being like obnoxious on different like
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  boards being stupid and goofy. And then the left got on there
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  and some people started to be kind of annoying.
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  That's it. They really never went that far.
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  And it was funny because it was a different time.
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  Remember starting on TikTok and like things were pretty crazy,
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  but it was like, it was a fun time.
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  You just made fun of everybody. You know, it was kind of fun.
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  It was actually, I don't know, it's kind of a good time to be
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  like an anti wokester. You know, you get some big fun
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  of like the dumbest fucking people in the world that were so
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  super unserious. And then that sentiment carried
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  into voting in a fucking pedophile rapist destroying the
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  country. So I don't know what's worse,
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  the left being cringe or the right to being rape, who knows.
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  Well, and I think, I mean would you not say there were some
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  excesses maybe in those days? You know, I in those days I
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  wasn't doing too well, so I wasn't paying much attention
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  anyway. I, I would love to hear and I'm
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  not asking you to like retract everything that you've ever said
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  and all you know or anything, but I said that I would love to
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  talk to you because #1II, I told you this is that I think you're
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  really smart and I. Jesus Christ.
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  Think that with. It's going to be annoying
• 10:46
  because I like Hunter Biden, but like one of his tactics to try
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  to get a little more mainstream again is to just like, to some
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  degree, glaze the fuck out of the person that he's talking to.
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  And it's just like, sometimes it's fucking infuriating.
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  Sometimes it's just fucking infuriating, dude.
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  That comes in a real responsibility and you have an
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  audience. And I have a friend whose son is
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  my daughter's age, you know, maybe 28, you know, a year age.
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  And he's really smart and he is a big fan of yours.
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  And so by virtue of the relationship, I got to learn
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  what it is that he why he is a fan of yours and none of it has
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  to do with I would hope you agree like really egregious
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  things that you've said in the past about the Holocaust or.
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  That's part of it. They think it's funny.
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  Like don't, don't downplay that. I know it's like easy to be
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  like, no, it's my family member. I don't want to think that they
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  would be racist. But like, yeah, they're kind of
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  racist. You know, we just have to, we
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  just have to create a more accepting place to be racist on
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  the left. OK.
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  But it's got to be fun. It's got to be fun.
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  That the fun kind of racism, you know, the type of racism that's
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  like, we're having a good time, not that we actually hate like a
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  certain group of people. You know what I mean?
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  That'd be the best, dude. So hey, bring back edgy jokes
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  that aren't hateful, you know what I'm saying?
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  Or about, you know. Did the Jews ever talk about the
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  100 million whites that died in World War 2 or.
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  What the Sigma? They just bitch and moan about
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  the so-called 6,000,000 Jews that died.
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  And so it's I don't. Know, I don't really talk to
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  Jewish people. Just nice to poke holes in it
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  and say it's not 6,000,006 million.
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  I don't think so. And I don't even know, I think
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  I've heard you since kind of recent a lot of that.
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  You can see the 6,000,000 Jews died in the Holocaust.
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  Possibly more Possibly. Disagree.
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  But you know, we're discovering all the time, so it could be,
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  maybe even be more than. That but what he agrees with is
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  kind of the anger, the anger about the situation that
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  particularly your generation finds yourself in.
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  I know that to be real and I think that there, you know maybe
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  my reasons. Fuentes never had a real job.
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  I don't understand how somebody like Fuentes could represent an
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  entire like a generational amount of anger.
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  He never even tried to get a job.
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  I don't understand the guy never worked.
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  He started when he was like 18. Just rage bait posting on the
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  Internet. What are you talking about?
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  Like the the generation? Like I think that there is a
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  generation of like young angry people.
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  I do agree with that, but they can't find the job.
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  Went has never tried to look for one.
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  So he's like cosplaying. It's like the same thing as
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  Hassan Parker. He never really worked a
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  meaningful job, you know, like I've been there before.
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  I've worked for a union that like stripped, like took my
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  fucking note, like benefits away.
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  They didn't care. They worked more for the company
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  than for the people. I've worked a real job.
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  I've had to work on two jobs before for like a decade.
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  I'm lucky now doing this, you know, But like they don't, He
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  doesn't. What does he represent?
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  He's just like, he's just shit posting on the Internet for fun
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  and pretending to be relatable. But I guess he's relatable to a
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  lot of young people that like, I don't know, are in cells or
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  something, don't want to really have sex and hate a lot of
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  groups of people. For recognizing that anger is
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  being legitimate and my targets are different than yours.
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  I just wanted to hear from you. When you say you cancelled, you
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  cancelled by the right in 2016. I almost felt like in preparing
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  to meet you now is that your reaction to that was to just dig
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  deeper and deeper into kind of the the outsider, kind of
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  radical say anything for the purpose of generating, you know,
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  the attention to build an audience.
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  Yeah, quip farming. Is that true?
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  And it's not. It is true.
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  Of course it's true. A lot of people do that on the
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  Internet, you know, and if you don't do that on the Internet,
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  it's a struggle to get popular. Then again, I mean if you're if
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  you start clip farming, you have to be willing to continuously
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  clip farm and escalate or else you're going to turn into like a
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  sneako and nobody wants that. I really mean it.
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  I want this to be a conversation as much as possible.
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  I mean, that's there's certainly some truth to that, but I think
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  that might be overstating it a little bit because I really got
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  cancelled by the right and the left and back in those days in
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  2017. Crazy.
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  You have these far left journalists at Huffington Post
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  Right Wing Watch. He had a real job.
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  He's like 18 years old. Like he's not like a real job.
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  A real job to me isn't a type of job.
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  It's like actually having responsibilities in your life.
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  So like that's around that job. Like McDonald's could be a real
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  job if you're like 40 years old trying to raise a kid on it.
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  You know what? I.
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  Mean ADLSPLC and I really believe they were on a mission
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  to find extremist rhetoric, the white nationalist, neo Nazi
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  boogeyman, all that kind of stuff and.
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  We have that in our fucking government now.
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  That's what got us elected. It's not a boogeyman, obviously.
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  Look at someone like myself, 18, and if I was being serious or
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  joking, things taken out of context, they would clip it,
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  post it and they wanted me to be the villain and I think they
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  wanted a lot of people. He would clip it and post it
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  just to be clear, you would be the one to clip it and post like
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  that Was that was part of the strategy was for him to like
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  clip and post different things of him being provocative online
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  for attention. To be the villain, I think the
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  left in a way kind of created this climate where I think they
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  pushed a lot of people farther to the right.
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  By the way, that that very well may be true, but you gave him a
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  lot of ammunition. That's true.
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  You know, I mean, I, I, I hope that the I.
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  Don't know, I feel like when I hear that talking point, maybe
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  it is true. I don't care.
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  It's so boring because like the right is so far right and the
• 15:43
  left is not And you know, it's it's exhausting because every
• 15:46
  time you say that people like, no, you don't understand.
• 15:48
  Like I go on Twitter and I see these super far left freaks that
• 15:51
  are celebrating Charlie Kirk's ethic.
• 15:52
  Yeah, yes, that exists. But like, I am not talking
• 15:56
  about, I'm not talking about Twitter, I'm talking about the
• 16:00
  fucking government. Like the farthest left we have
• 16:03
  is Mamdani who's making crime go down and balancing the budget in
• 16:07
  New York. And the farthest, that's the
• 16:11
  farthest left we have. The farthest right is a fucking
• 16:13
  rapist, pedophile freak doing everything Israel wants.
• 16:18
  These are not the same things whatsoever.
• 16:20
  Like Trump threatens free speech like it's his fucking like it's,
• 16:23
  I don't know, like he's all the time.
• 16:25
  He threatened, he threatened to execute Democrats for saying you
• 16:28
  don't have to follow a legal orders to ICE officers.
• 16:31
  I mean, it's fucking crazy. We live in a fucking clown
• 16:34
  world. So you know, it, it's it's
• 16:39
  fucking and like that's the justifier.
• 16:42
  Yeah, I know I'm a massive piece of shit, but you guys upset me
• 16:46
  years ago, so it's kind of OK. Oh, OK.
• 16:50
  Like that makes a total, total amounts of sense.
• 16:53
  Dude, I'm fucking actually it's so true, King.
• 16:56
  It's like a holy fuck. Some of those things that you
• 16:58
  said in the past are not things that you believe in and that are
• 17:03
  you meant just to engender like like a really radical kind of
• 17:07
  response. I mean, is that true or well.
• 17:09
  You know, again, I think that back in those days you could not
• 17:11
  say anything in 2017. The answer is yes.
• 17:14
  He's just, he's just talking. He was rage baiting and then he
• 17:17
  got the consequence of his own actions and now he's crying
• 17:19
  about. It 2018 cancel culture was so in
• 17:21
  OverDrive, Any joke, any edge lording, anything like that,
• 17:25
  they would. First of all, there's no sense.
• 17:26
  I don't. Break it down for you.
• 17:28
  So the dawn of wokeness as it's known today, I think was in like
• 17:30
  the post Trump era. After Trump won the election in
• 17:32
  2016, there was a big movement to deep platform and kind of
• 17:35
  push away those who I guess the left feel like had galvanized
• 17:37
  him in the presidency. So there was this big idea that
• 17:39
  if you push people off mainstream social media
• 17:41
  platforms, they would go away. Now we know through Trump's
• 17:43
  reelection that's not even true. But at the time, that was the
• 17:45
  mantra. Problematic viewpoints needed to
• 17:47
  be silenced, tucked away somewhere, and they'd just sort
• 17:49
  of die in isolation. So I think that that was the
• 17:50
  climate where you first got started 20/17, that that time
• 17:53
  period was like crucial for getting people off mainstream
• 17:55
  platforms. Is that correct?
• 17:56
  Yeah. And, and I would say that you
• 17:57
  got to get into the psychology of those days.
• 17:59
  It felt like anybody that wasn't on board with the most
• 18:01
  progressive agenda had no options.
• 18:03
  There was just no alternative. It was going to be progressive,
• 18:05
  liberal, feminist, BLM, all that kind of stuff.
• 18:07
  And if you were to the right of John McCain, you're no platform.
• 18:12
  I'm pretty sure John McCain was a fucking warhawk, but OK, I
• 18:19
  mean, I I don't understand what this means.
• 18:21
  Like, this is such a weird framing.
• 18:23
  John McCain was a bit of it was like a warhawk and he was more
• 18:25
  conservative. But this idea that like, oh, any
• 18:27
  position, you know, right of, of McCain wasn't accepted.
• 18:30
  It's like, yeah, just like any position left of whatever the
• 18:33
  fuck at the time was there, Obama wasn't accepted either.
• 18:36
  Obama by today's standards is like definitely a moderate
• 18:39
  Democrat. So I I don't understand what the
• 18:42
  the argument is. Like, yeah, Republicans used to
• 18:44
  be more normal and now they embraced a bunch of like insane
• 18:46
  white supremacist like talking points like, oh, you fucking you
• 18:50
  owned the world, man. We definitely need to make, we
• 18:52
  need to make excuse me. We definitely need to make tons
• 18:54
  of room for insane far right opinions.
• 18:57
  Like we should oust every black person from the United States of
• 19:00
  America. Censored, banned from all the
• 19:03
  platforms, you're fired from your job, you're ostracized
• 19:05
  socially. And I think what happened?
• 19:07
  Right of McCain means that like you celebrate Hitler, I got he's
• 19:10
  not owning anybody here. Really.
• 19:12
  In 2021 when Trump got banned from the platforms is it felt
• 19:15
  like 70 million people got cancelled.
• 19:17
  He got banned from the platforms for inciting a fucking
• 19:19
  insurrection. Well, I mean, I guess he
• 19:23
  wouldn't care because Fuentes was at the insurrection.
• 19:25
  Many million people had voted for Trump, or, you know, sixty,
• 19:26
  70 million people. We were all felt like, oh, so if
• 19:29
  Trump is out of politics and we're all banned from the
• 19:31
  platforms, then how is there any redress for our grievances?
• 19:34
  Do we just have to shut up and get with the program and we're
• 19:36
  all going to be progressive? He incited a riot.
• 19:39
  He incited a fucking instruction of the government.
• 19:41
  It's so crazy what you're allowed to do.
• 19:43
  If you're on the right, you can factually incite an insurrection
• 19:46
  and then like, it's just a silly little thing that happens.
• 19:48
  It's not a big deal I guess. She's fucking obnoxious.
• 19:51
  They play the victim all the time.
• 19:53
  And I think that that drove people to a far more radical
• 19:55
  place where people said, well, what really is a solution?
• 19:57
  We. Can't do they What?
• 19:58
  Nobody was driven to a radical place.
• 20:00
  People insurrected the government at Trump's demand.
• 20:04
  That is not they didn't get radicalized.
• 20:06
  They were already radicalized. What are we talking about?
• 20:09
  And talk, we can't express ourselves.
• 20:11
  We can't participate in the process or run for office.
• 20:13
  And, and I was one of the people saying.
• 20:15
  Trump was He was still running for office.
• 20:18
  He dodged being held accountable for inciting a fucking
• 20:21
  insurrection. Because I don't even know how.
• 20:24
  What are you talking about? The framing year is preposterous
• 20:27
  and there's no push back, I think.
• 20:28
  That's exactly what's going to happen.
• 20:29
  It's going to drive people to extremism if you don't talk, if
• 20:31
  people don't feel like they have a seat at the table.
• 20:33
  And in France? I love it when like the extreme,
• 20:35
  like we literally live in a world of extremism right now
• 20:37
  because of Trump and they're still playing victim and like,
• 20:39
  well, no, no, no, no, like we see we're going to become
• 20:43
  extreme because you, it's like, no, man, it's because of you,
• 20:45
  dude, what the fuck? Franchise meant I think then
• 20:47
  they they start exploring options outside the system,
• 20:50
  outside of the political process of the democratic process.
• 20:53
  So I think it's self-inflicted in anyways.
• 20:54
  So you feel like after the Masti platforming in 2021, whenever
• 20:57
  people on the right got pushed to platforms like Parlor, Yeah,
• 20:59
  Rumble, etcetera, the lack of discourse and like the political
• 21:01
  singularity of those platforms created more extremism.
• 21:03
  Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 21:04
  Because look, you take Trump off of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram.
• 21:07
  Dude this is like unironically because I like Andrew Coley and
• 21:10
  Hunter Biden. You guys have to push back.
• 21:12
  You can't sit here and just do a fucking glaze session for white
• 21:15
  supremacy here. Like we're ignoring that January
• 21:19
  6th happened because of extremism, which we're just
• 21:22
  like, yeah, actually it was all your fault.
• 21:23
  What the fuck is happening here? YouTube, and I predicted this in
• 21:26
  21. I said watch, you're going to
• 21:27
  see alternative social media rise because some venture
• 21:30
  capitalists are going to see there's a huge market of 70
• 21:32
  million people that are going to follow Trump because Trump is no
• 21:35
  platform. And that's exactly what
• 21:36
  happened. Rumble blew up, Elon bought
• 21:38
  Twitter. And what happened when you had
• 21:40
  total free speech on these platforms?
• 21:41
  Well, Twitter now resembles 4 Chan and now, you know, there's
• 21:44
  no gatekeepers. And I think it did push people
• 21:46
  in a radical direction. And honestly, people are even
• 21:48
  blowing past me now. There's like mainstream normie
• 21:51
  types that are even blowing past me in terms of how radical they
• 21:53
  are. People start saying things like
• 21:54
  there's no political solution, there's going to be a civil war,
• 21:57
  we need a revolution. And I think that's because the.
• 21:59
  Yeah, probably because that's what the state of the country is
• 22:01
  under Trump. Message from the left was you're
• 22:03
  crushed, you have no options, you can't win.
• 22:06
  There's no alternative, Trump. This is so, it's so embarrassing
• 22:09
  where like the right chooses the one day the left is a bunch of
• 22:12
  like losers with fucking blue hair that are completely
• 22:15
  ineffective, and the next day they're the most oppressive
• 22:17
  fucking authoritarian force that could ever possibly exist in the
• 22:20
  entire world. Like there is.
• 22:22
  It's so funny. Is going to be indicted and
• 22:24
  charged and can't run you can't be on Twitter, you can't have a
• 22:27
  job. And so people started to say OK,
• 22:28
  well you know we still exist we're still here we still have
• 22:31
  these concerns what do we do now?
• 22:32
  And then people start to say, well we need a revolution.
• 22:34
  And I'm one of the only people saying no, we should still
• 22:36
  engage in the process and and talk with each other.
• 22:38
  And it's not all one sided. I think there's problems on the
• 22:40
  left and the right, but I. It's mostly on the right.
• 22:42
  Certainly think takes 2 to take. So there we agree.
• 22:44
  I think that there are problems on left and right and I don't
• 22:46
  disagree with with some of the things that that you just said.
• 22:48
  I guess I just came to a different conclusion.
• 22:51
  There's problems in left and right, like there's problems
• 22:53
  with peeing yourself and shitting yourself.
• 22:55
  Like the left is peeing yourself a bit and the right is shitting
• 22:59
  all over yourself. That there are some things that
• 23:01
  people should be de platformed for.
• 23:03
  Not that they can't say it when they want to say it, but I think
• 23:05
  that it's a right of anybody. It's a, it's a fucking, it's a,
• 23:08
  it's a fucking freedom. It's a, what is it First
• 23:10
  Amendment, dude? Like the company has the right
• 23:12
  to fucking ban people from their platform if they don't like
• 23:14
  them, if they don't like that what they're saying, if they're
• 23:16
  saying insane. If you're, if you're causing an
• 23:18
  insurrection, you're trying to cause a riot like Trump did.
• 23:22
  Yeah, I think it's OK to be like, yeah, we try to ban this
• 23:23
  person about. Three things.
• 23:24
  What do you think? There's a difference between
• 23:26
  being able to say that you're proud of your white heritage and
• 23:28
  also being just flat out racist. I think that there's a
• 23:30
  difference between saying you're proud of your Christian heritage
• 23:33
  and the white culture from what you come from and Nazis, or that
• 23:37
  you adopt the Nazism as a legitimate ideology.
• 23:39
  I think that there's a difference between saying that
• 23:42
  you disagree with the United States policy as it relates to
• 23:45
  Israel and saying that the Holocaust didn't exist.
• 23:47
  I was like, mom, dad, Hitler was awesome.
• 23:49
  Hitler was right. My gosh, didn't happen.
• 23:52
  And my parents were like, we cannot believe.
• 23:55
  Those are my those would be top three things in my mind.
• 23:58
  I know that you believe that some people took you out of
• 24:02
  context and I do. I do agree.
• 24:03
  Look. You shouldn't agree because none
• 24:05
  of that's true. He rage bait on the Internet for
• 24:07
  attention. Even if he didn't believe the
• 24:10
  way that people were portraying him, he's the people that were
• 24:12
  portraying him. So at best you'd be like, oh,
• 24:14
  you've rage baited too hard and it blew up in your face is a
• 24:20
  very different thing than what actually happened, you know?
• 24:23
  Both the right and the left, there are these gatekeepers
• 24:26
  100%. And look at the mainstream press
• 24:29
  just destroyed me for seven years without any real kind of
• 24:32
  reflection about what they were doing.
• 24:33
  I do think that, you know, some of those things are legitimate
• 24:36
  reasons to say, you know, I we don't want you on our, you know,
• 24:40
  on our commercial platform. Would you agree with that?
• 24:42
  You just said, for instance, people calling for a like an
• 24:45
  armed revolution, like people calling for actual violence.
• 24:47
  You're opposed to? Oh, absolutely.
• 24:49
  Yeah, I'm against violence. He's not a he was at January
• 24:51
  6th. He was there stocking the
• 24:52
  violence. Again, this is the Nick Fuentes.
• 24:55
  Like this is the this is the goal.
• 24:56
  Nick Fuentes is a small, mousy little guy who doesn't seem very
• 25:00
  intimidating. And he just says things like, I
• 25:02
  don't actually hate black people.
• 25:03
  I just wish they would go back to their country.
• 25:05
  Like that's the strategy. He's just play.
• 25:07
  He cosplays as this mousy little guy, but then he like says
• 25:10
  extremist rhetoric about how he likes Hitler and he says, well,
• 25:13
  I'm just joking. Like that's the whole play.
• 25:15
  He was at January 6th, like inciting a riot.
• 25:19
  What are you talking about? That no, I'm against the
• 25:22
  violence. No, he's not.
• 25:23
  He's not against the violence. He just tries to position
• 25:25
  himself in like a certain way that I guess he thinks he looks
• 25:28
  fucking reasonable. Sometimes.
• 25:29
  It's just fucking ridiculous. And I and I do think those are
• 25:31
  one of the legitimate things that should be taken from the
• 25:33
  platform. You know, there's a lot of the
• 25:34
  stuff on social media I don't agree with.
• 25:36
  But again, you know, what started to happen is there was
• 25:38
  this like editorial censorship where certain ideas were banned
• 25:41
  and and they just, it was such a broad brush.
• 25:44
  This is how it's always been. People have always banned
• 25:46
  certain ideas and the ideas are like far right extremism in this
• 25:51
  instance right? Don't we have like massive
• 25:55
  counterterrorism units to counter fucking actual
• 25:58
  communism? Not just like the fake communism
• 26:00
  that people cry about when they want healthcare.
• 26:03
  There was like huge campaigns getting rid of that.
• 26:06
  For how long? What are we talking?
• 26:07
  About and also totally opaque and ad hoc.
• 26:09
  You'd be on YouTube like I was, for example.
• 26:12
  They banned me for life and didn't even give me a reason.
• 26:14
  Not a specific quote, not a specific infraction.
• 26:17
  And so you don't know what the rules are, you don't know what
• 26:19
  the process is. They just take you down.
• 26:20
  Yeah, you don't know what the rules are, guys.
• 26:22
  It's probably the slurs she was saying but OK.
• 26:24
  And especially now when everything is digital, that's
• 26:27
  not just the social platforms, it's the other ones like Uber,
• 26:29
  Airbnb, whatever. It feels like you're being
• 26:31
  denied almost something like a civil right is the social
• 26:33
  platforms are the modern public square increasingly with Uber,
• 26:36
  Airbnb, the banking apps. You can't live your life without
• 26:38
  the tech platforms and if. That's true.
• 26:40
  The tech platforms. What I find interesting is like
• 26:42
  this idea that you can't live your life without social media
• 26:45
  when we know social media is the thing that's like absolutely
• 26:47
  corrupting and destroying peoples minds.
• 26:49
  And this guy has managed to be on every social media platform
• 26:52
  still consistently through other means.
• 26:53
  I don't know what he's talking about.
• 26:55
  Like if you just simply had the wrong opinions or you were the
• 26:57
  wrong kind of person, you were being deprived of like a basic
• 26:59
  civil right or being able to participate in society so.
• 27:02
  Yeah, true. You know, and I think maybe
• 27:04
  that's an. I think you should be like that.
• 27:07
  It should be like that. You should be denied certain
• 27:09
  like, yeah, I agree with that. You should be like that.
• 27:11
  It's so funny because, like, everybody agrees with me, they
• 27:14
  just pretend that they don't. You just have a different idea
• 27:16
  of what it is that should be bannable.
• 27:17
  Like Nick Fuentes thinks it should be OK to celebrate mass
• 27:22
  murderers like Hitler. I don't, you know, like, that's
• 27:27
  it. We all have a line.
• 27:29
  But stop pretending that like, there are people who would just
• 27:32
  want absolute freedom of speech. No, of course not.
• 27:34
  Everybody thinks that there's a certain degree that you get to
• 27:37
  where it's like, oh wait, that was too much.
• 27:38
  That should be bannable, Duh. Like what are we talking about
• 27:41
  here? An area of collaboration where
• 27:43
  we recognize maybe it is a civil right to use the digital
• 27:45
  platforms, but here are the rules.
• 27:47
  Here's what you can say, here's what you can't say.
• 27:49
  Here's the process. Maybe there's a reconciliation
• 27:51
  mechanism, but I mean, the censorship was just out of
• 27:53
  control. I don't think anyone disagrees
• 27:54
  there's a reasonable limit though.
• 27:55
  Yeah. No, I guess what I would say is
• 27:57
  that I don't see that as a result of left wing or right
• 28:00
  wing ideology. I view that kind of level of
• 28:04
  deplatform. Look, I was debanked.
• 28:05
  I was debanked before or I was ever even charged with anything.
• 28:07
  I lost every bank account. It took me, you know, nine
• 28:10
  months once they, you know, the Trump administration, you know,
• 28:13
  said that they were starting an investigation into me to be able
• 28:15
  to actually get a bank account again.
• 28:17
  And I still, I don't want to tell you the bank because
• 28:19
  tomorrow they may debank me again.
• 28:21
  But my point is, is that those people are incredibly
• 28:24
  identifiable. I always, I keep like I've been
• 28:26
  talking and going around and I say things like, I don't think
• 28:29
  we are nearly as divided as they're telling us we are.
• 28:31
  Because I do believe that there is there are an identifiable
• 28:34
  group of people that are responsible for an enormous
• 28:38
  amount of the discord and division because they make money
• 28:40
  off of it, I think. Sure, yeah.
• 28:43
  That's The thing is that a lot of things do happen online.
• 28:45
  Like a lot of the conversations happen online.
• 28:47
  So, you know, I don't know. Trump is pretty extreme.
• 28:52
  It is weird though, 'cause like, you know, you.
• 28:54
  Oh, I don't know, A lot of people hide their shit.
• 28:55
  It's funny. Like offline, you know people.
• 28:58
  I know a lot of MAGA people and there's pretty much none of them
• 29:02
  are left that actually wear the shirt or the hat.
• 29:04
  I think they're all ashamed and embarrassed and they're too
• 29:05
  embarrassed to like publicly speak out against how bad it is
• 29:08
  'cause they like feel stupid as fuck.
• 29:12
  But it's just like different. A lot of people offline.
• 29:15
  I think this is part of the way that Trump won.
• 29:18
  A lot of people offline, they just kind of write off all
• 29:20
  Trump's insane shit as just like, oh, he's just joking or
• 29:23
  he's just being silly or he's, he doesn't really mean it.
• 29:26
  You know, it's just like, OK, I, I, but he'll, he'll act on it,
• 29:30
  but he doesn't really mean it. It's interesting how, how
• 29:32
  heavily they water it down. People just like really water it
• 29:41
  down in such a weird fucking way.
• 29:43
  They, I think part of it's that they just want to feel
• 29:45
  comfortable ignoring what they don't want to talk about.
• 29:48
  That's probably part of it. So especially when I'm around, I
• 29:51
  make my family very uncomfortable about politics,
• 29:54
  so. Think that these social media
• 29:55
  companies that are controlled by what 345, you know, individuals
• 29:59
  have made it clear that they only care about one thing.
• 30:01
  They only care about how much money they can produce for
• 30:03
  themselves. And, you know, the people that
• 30:05
  hold stocks in their company, even to the degree where we know
• 30:08
  for certain that they're driving teenage girls to the highest
• 30:12
  levels of suicide by a factor like exponential factors
• 30:16
  directly related to the content that they're being pushed and
• 30:18
  they won't do anything about it, right.
• 30:19
  And so to the same degree, I think they, you know, a lot of
• 30:23
  what you call wokeness was a maybe an illegitimate, but a, a
• 30:27
  financial decision based on, on a lot of these.
• 30:29
  Corporate SIOP. Maybe corporate SIOP.
• 30:31
  Thank you. I mean, by the way, exactly, you
• 30:33
  know, I mean, I just wanted. To back up real quick, so you
• 30:35
  talked about certain people going too far.
• 30:36
  About 2 1/2 months ago I visited a whites only community in
• 30:38
  Hardy, AR and I don't know why. I guess coming from like a more
• 30:41
  like left wing place. I'm from Seattle, I kind of
• 30:42
  assumed there was like a united front on the right for some
• 30:44
  reason. So I'm out there, I'm chilling
• 30:45
  with these dudes. They're like sword fighting,
• 30:46
  having barbecues. I mean, overall it was a.
• 30:48
  Good sword fighting and having barbecues and for them I.
• 30:50
  Had a hard time connecting with them because I don't agree with
• 30:52
  them, but it's all good. I was having fun for a couple
• 30:54
  days and then like right as I was there, I guess you had hit
• 30:56
  them up on X or something and said like hey, I don't want to
• 30:58
  associate with you guys. What happened there?
• 31:00
  Well, that was really more of a personal disagreement with the
• 31:02
  guy that founded it, but I do think it's sounds petty, huh?
• 31:05
  An interesting project and it's interesting that that got so
• 31:07
  much pushback this whites only community.
• 31:09
  Because you know what? Why is it interesting?
• 31:10
  What's interesting about getting pushed by?
• 31:12
  If you go to a lot of these different neighborhoods in major
• 31:14
  cities, there are ethnic enclaves, and it's not like
• 31:16
  there's an explicit rule that you have to be a certain
• 31:18
  ethnicity. But we all know in Chicago and
• 31:20
  New York and LA you got certain neighborhoods.
• 31:22
  Here it is 8090% one ethnicity and I think.
• 31:26
  This is what I'm talking about. Like, Nick Fuentes is a smart
• 31:28
  guy, so when he says stuff like this, he knows what he's doing
• 31:31
  and he knows how he's lying. So it's always so funny when he
• 31:34
  does this because yes, this is true.
• 31:36
  But like, why is this true? Why is it that there are ethnic
• 31:41
  enclaves in different areas? I don't know.
• 31:44
  Maybe it's because they were forced to do that every like
• 31:47
  like every majority ethnic community, whether it's like
• 31:49
  it's some kind of an Asian community or a black community
• 31:51
  or an Italian community or anything.
• 31:54
  It's because when they came here, they were to some degree
• 31:57
  forced into those areas. You know, more forced
• 32:01
  historically. But like, that's how it works.
• 32:05
  And now it slowly disappears. That's why Little Italy isn't
• 32:12
  really considered like Italian area so much because it's really
• 32:16
  just in A cause like Italians kind of moved out of there.
• 32:20
  They got money, they moved out. That was like years ago, blah,
• 32:23
  blah, blah, blah, blah. So I just, it's again, it's so
• 32:26
  funny, but this is like a, this is a literal community.
• 32:28
  That's just like, I just want white people here.
• 32:30
  It's not even that they just want Polish people here.
• 32:32
  It's like they just want white people here.
• 32:33
  Obviously it's different and it's racist.
• 32:35
  Like, give me a fucking break. Jesus Christ.
• 32:37
  I think there's a lot of white people that say we.
• 32:39
  And like if you want, you could be any color and you can move
• 32:41
  into a black community. You can do whatever you want.
• 32:43
  People just don't want to because it's black communities
• 32:45
  are usually low income. That's what it is.
• 32:48
  So I. Don't want something similar.
• 32:50
  I don't think there's. Anything.
• 32:52
  OK, let's back up. If you want to talk about the
• 32:53
  histories of, you know, New York and Chicago, I feel like that
• 32:55
  was also a conscious decision that was made like.
• 32:56
  Actually, where it's blacks and Cabrini Green, where Mayor Daley
• 32:59
  made everybody that was black live in Cabrini Green.
• 33:02
  I mean, it's not that wasn't by choice.
• 33:04
  It's not a choice that these ethnic enclaves are 80 or 90%,
• 33:07
  whatever that ethnicity is. It's because that's the only
• 33:09
  place in which they had an opportunity to live unbothered
• 33:13
  or where they were told that they had to live because of the
• 33:16
  historical fact that they couldn't, could not move into
• 33:18
  other neighborhoods. You could not move into parts of
• 33:20
  South Chicago without, you know, being stoned, right?
• 33:23
  Literally, right. And so like that the the so it's
• 33:26
  not as if. He knows all the answers to
• 33:28
  this. He just got called.
• 33:29
  He actually got pushed back on what he was saying.
• 33:30
  I wonder what his response is. Going to be those ethnic
• 33:32
  enclaves are there by choice you know and and so that.
• 33:35
  Also ethnic enclaves do exist for like specific variations of
• 33:38
  different Europeans. Like, you know, there is like
• 33:39
  places that are chocolate. Like South Phillies.
• 33:41
  There's a place on Long Island that's like very Polish.
• 33:43
  Like, yeah, it's nobody cares. It's, you know what I mean?
• 33:45
  Like it's whatever. Full of Italians, you know, it's
• 33:47
  a little. Yeah, I think the issue.
• 33:49
  What I always like that what confused me the most about the
• 33:51
  whites only community is like there's just so many different
• 33:53
  kinds of white people in America, you know?
• 33:54
  So like to establish a unified white culture with a place so
• 33:56
  diverse and full of like different regional flavors just
• 33:58
  kind of felt confusing to me. Because, yeah, because it's
• 34:00
  racist. It's not about actually like,
• 34:02
  preserving some kind of like, ethnicity.
• 34:03
  It's like, oh, you know, I'm fucking Greek and I want to
• 34:06
  preserve, you know, the fact that we spray wind ox on
• 34:08
  everything. You know, it's a joke about my
• 34:11
  Big Fat Greek Wedding. No, it's not that.
• 34:15
  It's about racism. They just don't like black
• 34:17
  people. That's literally the whole,
• 34:18
  that's the whole shtick that they operate on.
• 34:20
  Because that can mean a different thing depending on
• 34:22
  what part of the country, what European enclave you originated
• 34:24
  from, like where Irish people from the Philly area, can you
• 34:26
  compare that to like, you know, surfers in San Diego or even
• 34:28
  like these, you know, Italian Americans in Staten Island?
• 34:30
  I don't know. Everything just feels so
• 34:31
  different. So when I got there, I was
• 34:32
  trying to identify what they meant by white culture.
• 34:34
  It wasn't really based on shared, like, cultural
• 34:36
  practices, but more the exclusion of people who weren't
• 34:38
  white. So they weren't like.
• 34:39
  Yeah, yes. Stoked on being European
• 34:41
  necessarily. And we're just like, oh, we're
• 34:42
  here because those people aren't here.
• 34:43
  So it's kind of felt more negative and constructive.
• 34:45
  Yeah. I mean, like I said, I'm not
• 34:46
  really involved with that project in particular, but.
• 34:48
  Bam boom. He instantaneously walked back
• 34:50
  after he got pushed back on that.
• 34:52
  It's fucking hilarious. I think that, look, I mean, you
• 34:54
  talk about the anger that's out there and the frustration.
• 34:56
  And I think part of the frustration, let's be honest, is
• 34:58
  that white people do feel like we are being boxed out.
• 35:02
  No, we don't. In major cities in the country
• 35:04
  and it's we don't feels like look, there's a little Haiti and
• 35:07
  there's this various ethnic enclaves where you get.
• 35:09
  No, we don't. We don't care.
• 35:10
  That local culture. And why people don't want to go
• 35:12
  to Little Haiti. Just be fucking real.
• 35:13
  Let's let's not even let's not, let's not like sit here and
• 35:16
  pretend though we don't want to go to nobody trying to go to a
• 35:19
  little Haiti or fucking, you know, any of that shit.
• 35:20
  They do their, you know, cultural festivals and that sort
• 35:22
  of thing. You.
• 35:23
  Can go to a cultural festival if you're white.
• 35:24
  I went to I go to a Polish festival like every.
• 35:26
  Year and white people feel like you're being pushed out and they
• 35:28
  don't. They want a space where things
• 35:29
  are familiar. You feel the same way.
• 35:30
  No, they don't wait about the Italian festival, that happens
• 35:33
  in every city. Well.
• 35:34
  Here's a good example SO. Or Saint Patrick's Day.
• 35:36
  Nobody actually feels this way. You're being told that you feel
• 35:38
  this way. People online are frustrated
• 35:40
  that they can't get jobs and their anger is being redirected
• 35:43
  into hating minorities. That's literally it.
• 35:45
  And like, if you and if you disagree with me, then you're
• 35:46
  fucking your, your brain is like completely cooked.
• 35:49
  I, I don't want to tell you like you're a victim of your, of your
• 35:51
  own atmosphere. Like you're cooked.
• 35:53
  So basically you're just like fucking your brain is just like
• 35:57
  worm food for billionaire fucking propaganda.
• 35:59
  Sorry. Well, you know what?
• 36:00
  There's no Irish neighborhood in Chicago.
• 36:01
  They're literally. Sure there is.
• 36:03
  I mean, there's some remnant in Bridgeport and.
• 36:04
  It's it's important. I instantly got pushed back.
• 36:07
  It's like, Oh, well, there I is. This guy is constantly a fucking
• 36:10
  liar. He looks like a doofus.
• 36:11
  It doesn't matter though. This is the problem is I think
• 36:13
  Nick Fuentes. We're barely into this and Nick
• 36:16
  keeps getting hit with like tons of pushback, like so
• 36:18
  tremendously. It's hilarious, honestly.
• 36:21
  But it doesn't matter because his audience isn't interested in
• 36:23
  like what the fact of the world is.
• 36:25
  They don't care about what the reality of the world is.
• 36:27
  That's like, that's not a consideration to them.
• 36:30
  They just care about how they feel and they they want, they
• 36:32
  say that they feel this way even though it's not true.
• 36:35
  They feel this way. It's not true.
• 36:36
  There's no facts to support anything that they feel, but
• 36:39
  they say they feel this way. So Nick has to go out there and
• 36:41
  be like, yeah, I feel like white people are just afraid, blah,
• 36:43
  blah. But they're not.
• 36:44
  But he says that and the people like, yeah, they are.
• 36:46
  When you give him a push back that's like valid and meaningful
• 36:48
  and like logical, they just go, oh, no, that's not true.
• 36:51
  It doesn't matter. You don't have to be, you don't
• 36:54
  have to be logical or factual. If you were like a far right
• 36:57
  conservative fucking insane Nazi freak.
• 36:59
  Like it's all feelings based. It's all feelings based.
• 37:05
  That's literally what it boils down to.
• 37:10
  That's it. That's all it boils down to.
• 37:13
  It's pretty. It's pretty unfortunate stuff
• 37:15
  too, but they don't really give a shit about the reality.
• 37:18
  To note that like, I'm not trying to get into a shouting
• 37:20
  match here, but like, you know, as a family who did, coming from
• 37:22
  family who didn't leave Philadelphia in the 60s because
• 37:24
  of black migration from the South.
• 37:25
  After the Civil Rights Act was passed, there was a sort of like
• 37:27
  mass flight of white people into the suburbs.
• 37:29
  And that kind of led to a homogenization of different
• 37:31
  cultures because they rushed so fast to build these like
• 37:33
  identical strip mall suburbs that it was very hard to
• 37:35
  maintain cultural bonds that made different European and
• 37:37
  white neighborhoods unique around like the 1950s and
• 37:39
  before. So I feel like the mass
• 37:40
  suburbanization is also a big factor that led to those like
• 37:43
  cultural bonds breaking. Yeah, but why did that happen?
• 37:45
  I mean, a lot of the suburbanization is because of
• 37:47
  the race riots in the 1960s. People moved out because of the
• 37:49
  violence. You know, my grandfather was in
• 37:51
  the National Guard in Chicago when after MLK got assassinated
• 37:53
  the whole West Side burned to the ground.
• 38:02
  It's it's just like it's exhausting listening to like
• 38:04
  just dumb. Like Nick is a smart person, but
• 38:07
  he's using like talking points that are like 20 fucking IQ and
• 38:10
  he knows it. And that's why it's so easy to
• 38:12
  appear smart. Yeah.
• 38:14
  You know, he's basically saying that black people are the
• 38:16
  problem. That's the dog whistle.
• 38:18
  And part of that problem is because of all the race riots.
• 38:21
  But then it's like, yeah, why did they start?
• 38:22
  Oh, a black guy was killed unjustifiably.
• 38:24
  Wow. Fucking crazy.
• 38:25
  Yeah. People didn't want to be around
• 38:27
  that. Anymore why?
• 38:27
  Why? Why were the riots?
• 38:28
  MLK Junior was assassinated. Yeah.
• 38:31
  Yeah. And so does that justify burning
• 38:33
  down the city? Yes, yeah.
• 38:38
  Yes, it does. We should stop pretending like
• 38:40
  we should stop playing this game where we were like, well, I
• 38:43
  guess not. It it does.
• 38:44
  When you have somebody whose sole existence is to advocate
• 38:48
  for the rights of a certain group of people, black people in
• 38:50
  this instance, and they're assassinated because they're a
• 38:55
  threat to white people. Yeah, it justifies burning down
• 38:59
  a city. The problem is, Nick Fuentes,
• 39:01
  like, also believes this. He was part of January 6th.
• 39:04
  He was there. He was part of the insurrection.
• 39:08
  He believes this too. Enough is enough.
• 39:11
  This is the problem. Like, like realistically
• 39:13
  speaking, I don't think people should be explicitly violent.
• 39:15
  But you know what? Stop.
• 39:17
  Stop trying to take what you think.
• 39:21
  Like, if you're somebody on the left, you need to stop trying to
• 39:24
  appeal to what you think conservatives think is
• 39:29
  reasonable. They don't.
• 39:31
  They're not reasonable people anyway.
• 39:32
  Our president is a pedophile rapist.
• 39:35
  You don't have to play the game. You don't have to play the
• 39:38
  fucking game of like trying to seem reasonable to a bunch of
• 39:41
  unreasonable fucking lunatics. It is justifiable to burn down a
• 39:46
  city when a big when, when a political leader that's just
• 39:50
  pushing equality is assassinated.
• 39:53
  And the next response from the conservatively well, hold on,
• 39:56
  Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk wasn't a political
• 39:57
  leader pushing unity. And if you guys actually liked
• 40:03
  him, you would have done something.
• 40:04
  But you didn't care 'cause he's just hateful and you liked that.
• 40:08
  And that's why nobody cared that he died.
• 40:10
  Sorry, but not even like Trump cared that he died.
• 40:12
  That's why Trump was asked about it like the next day.
• 40:14
  And he's like yo, my ballroom's coming together pretty well.
• 40:16
  Like he, you, you guys didn't really care.
• 40:19
  You pretended to care. You use it as a talking point,
• 40:22
  but you don't really give a shit about it.
• 40:24
  Fucking annoying. Actually 100% agree with this.
• 40:26
  A lot of MAGA are just people who are unhappy with their lives
• 40:28
  and latch on to people who tell them it's not their fault and to
• 40:31
  blame others. I, I, I agree with that 1000%.
• 40:33
  And I think that there's a little bit of that on the left
• 40:35
  too, right? Like all the like the 15 year
• 40:37
  old non binary people on TikTok, 1000% difference is they were
• 40:39
  children and you're an adult as a MAGA, right?
• 40:42
  But that's why again, when Charlie Kirk was assassinated,
• 40:45
  like the right didn't care. They pretended to care.
• 40:47
  Whether you want to hear this or not, it's as a matter of fact,
• 40:49
  they pretended to care, but they didn't really care, right?
• 40:52
  They didn't really meaningfully give a shit.
• 40:54
  And that's why when like Trump passes away, however he goes, no
• 40:57
  one's going to care. It's just about being hateful.
• 40:59
  It's just, he's just like a lightning rod for hate.
• 41:01
  And once he's not there, no one's going to maintain any of
• 41:04
  the energy like the, the movement's going to die out.
• 41:07
  It's it's not, it's not, it's just not.
• 41:10
  What do you think it is? And that is true too.
• 41:12
  This MAGA did storm the capital for less and nobody was killed
• 41:14
  when they storm the capital. So no.
• 41:16
  I didn't say it justifies it, but it sure justifies an
• 41:18
  enormous amount of the anger, the same kind of anger that you
• 41:20
  feel about being left out, the same kind of anger that you're
• 41:22
  expressing right now about the idea that you culturally
• 41:25
  irrelevant, that you don't have a place in society.
• 41:28
  Imagine if. Which is funny because Nick
• 41:30
  Fontes is one of the most culturally relevant 11 people on
• 41:32
  the Internet. So you were a 26 year old black
• 41:35
  man in 1968 and saw your hero be assassinated?
• 41:38
  I want to saw. Trump get shot in the air and
• 41:40
  and I saw Charlie Kirk get shot and I didn't.
• 41:42
  See. Were those your heroes?
• 41:43
  Any cities get burned down. Yeah, because you guys didn't
• 41:45
  care. That's what it is.
• 41:51
  I because I, I, the framing is that like, oh, well, a black
• 41:54
  leader gets killed and they burn a city down.
• 41:55
  A white leader gets killed, we play nice.
• 41:57
  You guys didn't care about. You guys didn't care about, you
• 41:59
  guys don't care. You guys don't care about
• 42:02
  Charlie Kirk. He's just mean and you guys like
• 42:05
  it. It's funny to you.
• 42:06
  He's just like a, he's just a, he was an asshole.
• 42:08
  He was a, he was a shitty person and you guys really gravitated
• 42:12
  towards that and you latched onto that and you felt really
• 42:13
  good about that. That's it.
• 42:16
  You guys didn't really care. Let's stop playing.
• 42:19
  Let's stop playing fucking games about it.
• 42:21
  It's. Funny, I think it's a very,
• 42:22
  very, very different thing. I think it was that different,
• 42:24
  Charlie. Cook got shot in the neck.
• 42:25
  Yeah, and liberal, celibate all over social media.
• 42:28
  We have some random people on social media, true.
• 42:30
  By Tyler Robinson. Yeah, who is what?
• 42:32
  Who is some liberal guy? He is but that.
• 42:36
  He's got a transgender boyfriend.
• 42:37
  Does that make him liberal? Because he's transgender?
• 42:39
  Because he's. Tyler Robertson came from like a
• 42:42
  Mormon family, a very religious family is what happens when you
• 42:46
  gravitate towards extreme opinions.
• 42:47
  You're going to gravitate towards them on either side of
• 42:49
  the aisle, just to be clear. And like he, that was an extreme
• 42:53
  thing. And then Tyler Robertson got
• 42:55
  radicalized by just in the opposite direction and then had
• 43:00
  a trans girlfriend and then Charlie Kirk was killed.
• 43:03
  And the reason just because Charlie Kirk.
• 43:05
  And frankly, Charlie Kirk just shouldn't have been so rude to
• 43:07
  trans people. I don't know what else to tell
• 43:09
  you. Like it's not a justifier for
• 43:11
  dying, but Charlie Kirk was truly a bad person.
• 43:13
  He didn't just advocate for God, he flat out said he would abuse
• 43:16
  his daughter if she was raped. I don't know what else you want
• 43:18
  me to tell you when you sit here and say like, yeah, if my
• 43:20
  daughter was raped, I'd force her to carry the baby?
• 43:22
  A10 That's what he said. You're a child abuser.
• 43:26
  Like, that's not a good person. If you're willing to abuse a
• 43:28
  child like that, prioritize the agency in autonomy of a rapist
• 43:33
  over your own daughter. You're an abuser.
• 43:34
  And like, I don't know what else to tell you that there's a ton
• 43:35
  of other shit he didn't even want.
• 43:37
  He didn't want the Civil Rights Act to get passed because it
• 43:39
  went too far. So instead of not having a pass,
• 43:41
  why wouldn't you just make it so it didn't go too far?
• 43:44
  Because it's not about, it's about racism.
• 43:45
  It's about how he doesn't like black people.
• 43:47
  That's what it's about. It's always what it's been
• 43:50
  about, guys. It's always about racism for
• 43:52
  these people. That's all.
• 43:53
  That's the entire way that they operate.
• 43:54
  They're not good people. OK, well, because he's got a
• 43:57
  transgender boyfriend. Yeah, I think so.
• 43:58
  It makes him liberal. I think he was liberal, yeah.
• 44:01
  OK, well, he didn't come from a liberal family.
• 44:02
  He didn't come from a liberal enclave.
• 44:04
  He didn't come from a liberal background.
• 44:06
  He's not a minority. He was a Mormon, correct, and
• 44:08
  grew up in a Mormon household and he went to a largely Mormon
• 44:11
  college and he ended up committing an act of violence,
• 44:14
  according to the FBI and, and the the authorities in Utah that
• 44:18
  charged them. How does that in any way compare
• 44:21
  to what we're talking about? I'm not justifying the violence
• 44:23
  that occurred after the death of Martin Luther King, but.
• 44:25
  I am. You're saying that that person,
• 44:30
  Tyler, whoever his name is, is, it was as disenfranchised as the
• 44:34
  African American community in 1968 in in inner cities?
• 44:37
  Well. The question is who we want to
• 44:38
  live around. I'm not living around blacks,
• 44:40
  sorry. I want white kids and I don't
• 44:42
  want my white kids bringing home black people to marry.
• 44:45
  If he wanted, if he wanted, if he wanted white kids, where's
• 44:48
  his kids? Why isn't he having kids?
• 44:49
  What the fuck? 1960's the West side burns down.
• 44:52
  We don't want to live around that.
• 44:53
  We don't want to live around a city that's.
• 44:55
  Not when the white flight happened.
• 44:56
  It is. It's.
• 44:57
  A big response to it? Absolutely. 100% not.
• 44:59
  You make these historical connections that don't exist.
• 45:02
  Part of it was potentially, but before that, what Mayor Daley
• 45:06
  did is made Chicago the most segregated city in the entire
• 45:09
  United States other than Boston. When you would come from the
• 45:11
  South to Chicago, African Americans from the South, blacks
• 45:14
  in the South coming to Chicago would say that Chicago was twice
• 45:18
  level of segregation and racism that occurred in the South.
• 45:20
  And so it wasn't as if you're coming into a situation in what
• 45:23
  you're feeling in any way enfranchised by the community in
• 45:26
  the situation that you're in. And as many people left simply
• 45:29
  because of the idea that someone was black moving into their
• 45:32
  neighborhood as the violence that occurred after the
• 45:34
  assassination of Martin Luther King.
• 45:35
  So the numbers actually pre 1968 when King was shot, you had more
• 45:40
  people leave the city because of the desegregation, because of
• 45:43
  the 1964 Civil Rights Act that you did after the.
• 45:46
  After the riots, I think that's just not true.
• 45:48
  True. I think that the race riots were
• 45:49
  a huge driver of white flight to the suburbs.
• 45:51
  I think it's just dishonest to say that's not the case.
• 45:53
  OK, so what's your point about all of this?
• 45:54
  Well, we're talking about where people want to live.
• 45:56
  Yeah, I know so. You want to live in Chicago?
• 45:58
  In 2026, well. OK, how about in 2020 when
• 46:01
  Minneapolis burned to the ground?
• 46:02
  Or how about in the summer 2020 in Chicago?
• 46:04
  Minneapolis didn't burn to the ground.
• 46:06
  It didn't, no. BLM didn't destroy gas.
• 46:09
  If you guys need a physical witness to what happened in
• 46:11
  Minneapolis, there were many structures that burned to the
• 46:13
  ground, not the city, but there was, I would say between 40 to
• 46:15
  50 buildings off of Lake Street in the South side that did burn
• 46:18
  to the ground. But the most of the city was
• 46:19
  intact. But it was, it was quite an
• 46:20
  intense situation, people. Don't want to live around that.
• 46:22
  People don't want to live around that.
• 46:23
  You know, in Chicago it rolled on.
• 46:24
  What does this have to do with anything?
• 46:27
  Like, I don't really understand the point.
• 46:28
  What is the point? The point's white flight.
• 46:30
  I, I don't really understand what exactly what we're getting
• 46:32
  at. The point is, the point is that
• 46:34
  white people want to live there. They don't want to live there.
• 46:37
  I feel like Nick Fuentes just kind of like he just kind of
• 46:40
  rotates through talking points to try to make it seem correct
• 46:42
  about something. But like, for the most part,
• 46:44
  these aren't really stringing together particularly well.
• 46:47
  I get it. Like he think he wants to
• 46:48
  pretend why people feel upset. Cool.
• 46:51
  Got it. Yeah, cool.
• 46:52
  Into the summer and it wasn't, you know, let's say the anger of
• 46:55
  the oppressed and the disenfranchised.
• 46:57
  So they were looting. They were looting in car Jazzday
• 46:59
  the criminals. Are you saying that the problem
• 47:01
  with the 26 year old white kid living in in in suburbia outside
• 47:05
  of Chicago and his feeling of being disenfranchised is because
• 47:09
  there was looting and rioting in in Minneapolis by black people
• 47:12
  and it's black people that are doing it?
• 47:13
  Yeah, I mean, the problem with Austin Metcalf was that he got
• 47:16
  stabbed in the neck at a track meet.
• 47:17
  And the problem with our city in Chicago is?
• 47:19
  True. Sad.
• 47:21
  I don't. I don't.
• 47:22
  That the Magnificent Mile. Is what does it have to do with
• 47:24
  anything? Yeah, he got stabbed.
• 47:26
  He didn't get stabbed for being white.
• 47:27
  He got stabbed because two people had an altercation and he
• 47:30
  shouldn't have died. And the guy, the the the kid
• 47:31
  that stabbed them deserves jail. Or he got 35 years.
• 47:34
  He deserves it. Justice was served.
• 47:38
  Yeah. That's terrible.
• 47:39
  It's a terrible thing that happens.
• 47:40
  What about the justice that isn't served?
• 47:43
  I I don't understand Ted. I don't.
• 47:47
  It seems like every other day, if you're white and you're a
• 47:49
  fucking pedophile, you get away with it.
• 47:51
  That's just kind of the nature of the business.
• 47:54
  Like what is like how many different people keep getting
• 47:55
  away with it? We have a rapist president who's
• 47:59
  destroying the country. Elon Musk invaded our government
• 48:01
  through doge and cut so many programs that hundreds of
• 48:04
  thousands of people, if not millions, are dying around the
• 48:06
  world. Like if you're white, you just
• 48:08
  get to do stuff and you get off on shit.
• 48:11
  Ken Paxton gave some fucking white guy.
• 48:12
  This is the Texas. He's from Texas you fucking
• 48:15
  white pedophile. A huge deal got him off and
• 48:17
  thinks what, 28 days? Even though he was like
• 48:19
  violently raping a kid over and over again.
• 48:20
  It's like the fucking Epstein class.
• 48:22
  You know what about the Austin Butler?
• 48:24
  He raped like 3 little girls or three, three teenage girls.
• 48:28
  He got away with it. All the white people that get
• 48:31
  away with it. Why people are constantly
• 48:34
  getting away with shit. What about the ICE officers that
• 48:36
  that were just brutally fucking murdering different people in
• 48:39
  the street? They got away with it.
• 48:40
  Nobody gives a shit. They're not investigating any of
• 48:42
  this stuff. What are we talking about?
• 48:43
  You're like, hey, what about this instance where a black kid
• 48:45
  killed a white kid and then he got 35 years of jail?
• 48:48
  Yeah, that's bad. He got, he got justice was
• 48:51
  served. It's like, OK, cool, cool.
• 48:57
  He's gone. Water Tower places all the
• 48:59
  crime. OK, the time from the entire
• 49:02
  generation of of of African Americans is that they've been
• 49:05
  getting killed by cops for decades.
• 49:07
  What are you talking about? It is true.
• 49:08
  It's a fact. Nick.
• 49:10
  They commit crime and listen. Listen, it's not.
• 49:13
  Nick what? That's not true.
• 49:14
  It's not true, but people are like much more likely to get
• 49:16
  overcharged by police Was like 7 and 1/2 times more likely.
• 49:19
  That's why they get exonerated at such higher.
• 49:21
  I think it's the I think they get exonerated at like 7 times
• 49:23
  the rate of white people because they get overcharged or, or, or
• 49:26
  falsely convicted at like 7 times the rate.
• 49:29
  Yeah, they're seven times more likely than white people to get
• 49:31
  falsely convicted of it's. Not true.
• 49:35
  Are you saying the police brutality as it relates to
• 49:36
  racism in in the police force in the way in which police treat
• 49:39
  African Americans? Nick, you can grow up here like
• 49:42
  I did between Wilmington and Philadelphia.
• 49:44
  And if you are a black dentist and you lived in Wilmington and
• 49:46
  you commuted to Philadelphia, the chances of you being pulled
• 49:48
  over by state trooper either Delaware or in Pennsylvania are
• 49:51
  about 50 times. That would would be if it if if
• 49:53
  it was a white guy, 50 times. And So what you're trying to
• 49:56
  tell me is that the problem in America right now is that a 26
• 49:59
  year old white kid who lives in suburban Chicago, Chicago
• 50:02
  doesn't feel like he has access because he's been cancelled or
• 50:05
  he's been woke and the problem is black people.
• 50:07
  I didn't say the problem's black people.
• 50:09
  He literally is. Just did, Nick, you just said.
• 50:11
  The problem is crime, and we know who's doing the crime in
• 50:13
  Chicago. The carjackings, shootings, team
• 50:16
  takeovers. We know why there's no business
• 50:17
  on the Mad Mile anymore. Who's doing the crime in the
• 50:20
  rest of the world? It's so interesting when you
• 50:25
  want to bring it down. Like, hey, who's doing most of
• 50:26
  the crime in the Black city? Oh, it's probably black people.
• 50:28
  I don't know who's doing the crime in the rest of the world.
• 50:31
  I mean, I think that I think that the the American curtain
• 50:35
  has been pulled back and people like even myself, who I love
• 50:39
  this country, have realized that this country is one of the
• 50:42
  biggest exporters of destruction and violence around the entire
• 50:45
  world. We are sheltering a war criminal
• 50:48
  Netanyahu, who who is doing illegal occupations of brown
• 50:52
  people. We infiltrate governments
• 50:56
  constantly prop up terrorist organizations so that we can
• 51:02
  overthrow governments and then go, oh, those terrorist
• 51:04
  organizations, organizations are bad.
• 51:05
  Let's get rid of them. Like what are we talking about?
• 51:11
  Dude? White people are the most
• 51:12
  violent people in the world. And listen, I don't know if it's
• 51:15
  because they're white or because we're white, rather, I don't
• 51:17
  know if it's because we're white or, or we're just, we were the
• 51:20
  first ones to the top and we're able to, to, to keep it going.
• 51:23
  But like, we have to stop playing this fucking game where
• 51:25
  white people are not violent. Just because our violence is
• 51:28
  legal doesn't mean that we're not acting violently.
• 51:31
  It's so easy to like not Oh yeah, you know, white people
• 51:33
  aren't violent. They're fine.
• 51:34
  Oh, I just wake up and commute to work every day.
• 51:36
  And then you vote for the you vote for the Republicans, right?
• 51:39
  That give infinite money to Israel.
• 51:41
  That take away money out of the, the, the mouths of children.
• 51:43
  Take away vaccines out of the mouths of children.
• 51:46
  You take away fucking food stamps for children, cause them
• 51:49
  to die so that billionaires can get tax cuts.
• 51:53
  OK, well that's not violence. If you, if you, if you starve
• 51:56
  1000 children to death, that's not violence.
• 51:58
  But if you stab guy, that's violence.
• 52:00
  That's how they look at this. It's a fungibility of life.
• 52:02
  You guys don't care, you don't give a shit.
• 52:05
  That's what it all boils down to.
• 52:07
  And you get offended. Oh well, it's not white.
• 52:08
  It's not a white problem. It's you.
• 52:09
  Well, shut the fuck up. Stop being part of the problem
• 52:12
  then. It's fucking embarrassing, dude.
• 52:16
  And it's because they steal cars, they drive them through
• 52:17
  windows and listen, black people are some of the biggest victims
• 52:20
  of the black crime. We're not allowed to talk about
• 52:22
  it because of the racial. You don't care about that.
• 52:24
  Not allowed. To talk about it, we're talking
• 52:25
  about it right here. You have a platform in which
• 52:26
  millions of people listen to you, Dick.
• 52:29
  After after Elon had to buy Twitter and open it up.
• 52:31
  It wasn't like that before. I was banned from everything for
• 52:33
  many years. So no, you weren't allowed it.
• 52:35
  You're right, we can talk about it now.
• 52:36
  Dick has not stopped talking about it.
• 52:41
  Nick has not stopped talking about any of these things.
• 52:43
  I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.
• 52:46
  He literally will not stop talking about all of these
• 52:49
  different things. He continuously talks about this
• 52:51
  shit. Now, but that's only because the
• 52:54
  good guys. Want Hey, hey, what's up, guys?
• 52:56
  Like this, he never stopped talking about these things.
• 53:02
  He just he's always like this is the problem.
• 53:04
  When he was banned off YouTube, he was still influential.
• 53:06
  What are we talking about? He still is influential.
• 53:08
  The Something I forgot to tell you about, we also just launched
• 53:10
  our own streaming platform called C5 dot.
• 53:12
  Now we have 5 films on there right now.
• 53:14
  Film #1 The Art of Protest made by the homies over at
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  Indeclient. We interviewed a few months
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  back. Film 2 Rat film by Theo Anthony
• 53:20
  set in Baltimore, investigates the lives and times of the
• 53:23
  rodent population through the eyes of the people who love the
• 53:25
  rats of Baltimore, study the rats of Baltimore, or are paid
• 53:28
  to execute and trap the rodents of Charm City.
• 53:30
  Documentary #3 Star Cash by Hayley Garrigus, an amazing Wall
• 53:34
  Street documentary that follows the lives of market predictors.
• 53:37
  That's right, stock analyst who stare at the planets to figure
• 53:39
  out what's going to happen with the money.
• 53:40
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  director Asher Penn. A fascinating lifelong profile
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  featuring tons of archival footage documenting A physician,
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  Matte. Very influential dude.
• 53:53
  As far as addiction and trauma and healing, he's about as good
• 53:55
  as it gets. He's the top dog in that realm.
• 53:57
  So check that documentary out. Documentary #5 is my own.
• 54:00
  Had to put my own sauce on there to get the train moving.
• 54:02
  It is called Finding Orson, a 45 minute documentary that I shot
• 54:05
  over the course of a year and a half trying to reunite a beloved
• 54:07
  friend and elderly community member named Rick Shore with his
• 54:10
  lost parrot named Orson. Maybe he's just too embarrassed
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  to admit that he doesn't want the the bird anymore.
• 54:15
  So those are the five films on C5 dot now.
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  A totally independent creator, residual forward power to the
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  and of course, pay creators fairly.
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  The link is in the pin comment and description box of this
• 54:31
  video. And most importantly, it's not
• 54:32
  just a website, it's an app on your phone and a smart TV app.
• 54:35
  So get your popcorn, get your remote, sit down, it's time to
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  learn. I'll see you guys soon.
• 54:43
  All right, cool. You went from being banned on
• 54:48
  Twitter to being on YouTube to creating an entire show.
• 54:50
  I know you're not. But now you have Kick and now
• 54:52
  you have all of these. Nick is on YouTube.
• 54:53
  We have to stop pretending that Nick Fuentes is on YouTube.
• 54:55
  He he's, he taught you're allowed to talk to Nick Fuentes
• 54:57
  and have conversations with him and he constantly does
• 55:00
  conversations all the time. The fact that he's this idea,
• 55:03
  he's not on YouTube. He doesn't have a YouTube
• 55:04
  channel on YouTube. Other things, you have an
• 55:07
  enormous platform. I want to find common ground of
• 55:10
  how much of A shit head Donald Trump is.
• 55:12
  We can get there. We can get there.
• 55:13
  I don't. What I don't understand is how
• 55:15
  you didn't recognize that in 2016 and how you didn't
• 55:18
  recognize that in 2020 and how you didn't recognize that in
• 55:20
  2024 because Donald Trump hasn't, because Donald Trump
• 55:23
  hasn't changed. Donald Trump hasn't changed at
• 55:25
  all. Donald Trump has been Donald
• 55:26
  Trump since he came out of the womb of a woman that was a
• 55:29
  immigrant to this country. And So what I want to know
• 55:32
  though, is it, I don't know how we get past this idea that the
• 55:35
  biggest problem that you have that that with with your
• 55:38
  personal situation and how you extrapolate that to the
• 55:41
  situation of other white kids that are your age, that feel
• 55:44
  disenfranchised, that feel left out, that feel they don't have a
• 55:47
  shot at the American dream is because of black and brown
• 55:50
  people, because of Mexicans, because of Venezuelans, because
• 55:52
  of Haitians, because of it's always other Nick with you, It
• 55:55
  seems to me, and I've listened to a lot of this stuff.
• 55:56
  It's always them. We need to build a wall.
• 55:58
  Where's the wall, Nick? He never built the wall.
• 55:59
  Why'd you vote for him in 2020? Why'd you vote for him in 2024?
• 56:02
  I didn't vote for. Him in 24.
• 56:03
  My point being is that whenever you identify your problem as
• 56:07
  being something that is other that you can point to, that's a
• 56:10
  minority, that is a group of people, that's the Jews.
• 56:13
  It's the. It's the.
• 56:14
  I mean before, remember? Well, yeah, he's just a hate
• 56:15
  farmer. That's what it comes down to.
• 56:17
  He doesn't even believe anything he says.
• 56:19
  I'm pretty sure he lives in like a more liberal city and then he
• 56:21
  can play. He was pushed on it.
• 56:22
  He's like, why don't you move? Like move to a more right
• 56:25
  leaning place and he's like, no, I like the city.
• 56:27
  I like the diversity of it. He likes the good food.
• 56:29
  He doesn't give a fuck about anything that he's talking
• 56:31
  about. Remember all of us, you know, it
• 56:32
  was the Irish Catholics who are committing the crime, who
• 56:34
  weren't allowed into bars, who weren't allowed into because you
• 56:37
  know why? Because they were dirty poor non
• 56:39
  Europeans, they were Irish. Every time it's wrong.
• 56:41
  Every time history has proven that that to be wrong in the
• 56:43
  United States of America every time inclusion has been our
• 56:46
  greatest strength. Diversity has been our greatest
• 56:48
  strength. And I hear you talk about this
• 56:50
  idea of white culture. What fucking white culture you
• 56:52
  talking about, man? What?
• 56:53
  Literally what? Shakespeare.
• 56:54
  Dante. Mozart, We're in Philadelphia.
• 56:56
  The Founding Fathers they're. Just white.
• 56:58
  The point is, is that like this, you're just talking about white
• 57:00
  people. You're not talking about like
• 57:01
  actual culture. It's like 10 different cultures
• 57:03
  mixed together just saying different things.
• 57:07
  That's the whole point. You know what the fuck he's
• 57:08
  talking about. It's your.
• 57:09
  Wife, how about the kind of Monte Cristo?
• 57:10
  Would you consider that part of our white culture?
• 57:12
  Sure. OK, Well, it's written by a
• 57:13
  black man in France in the 1700s.
• 57:15
  In a million of European civilization.
• 57:17
  So what? Because you're, you're picking
• 57:18
  out, you're. Picking out one example it.
• 57:20
  Really is giving out one example that's Listen Nick, I'm not.
• 57:23
  I really am not. Guys, I think we're reaching
• 57:24
  what's called a rock and a hard place.
• 57:26
  Let's talk about Israel. Let.
• 57:28
  Me respond to this because you're telling me I'm always.
• 57:30
  Blaming the other No, no, Nick, for real.
• 57:31
  For real. Here's The thing is that the way
• 57:34
  that you talk and throw out these historical facts, which by
• 57:36
  the way aren't fucking facts, which ones aren't facts.
• 57:39
  Well, as it relates to the the civil rights movement in 1968
• 57:43
  and the reason why we're out on the problem that we're in is
• 57:44
  because the Civil Rights Act had passed in 1964.
• 57:47
  Doctor Martin Luther King was killed and shot by a white
• 57:49
  racist white supremacist in 1968 on a balcony of a motel.
• 57:53
  That's the root of our trouble because an entire people that
• 57:55
  have been disenfranchised and enslaved for over 400 years
• 57:58
  we're. Sick of hearing about that
• 57:59
  though. It's 2020.
• 57:59
  Six You may be sick of hearing about it, but you know what they
• 58:02
  aren't? Shut up.
• 58:04
  That's the thing we're sick of hearing about.
• 58:05
  Yeah, I'm sick of hearing about how white people are
• 58:07
  disenfranchised and they're not. That's the whole fucking issue.
• 58:09
  You won't shut the fuck up about it.
• 58:11
  What are you talking about? Oh, I'm sick of hearing about
• 58:12
  it, but you keep talking about white people being
• 58:15
  disenfranchised even though they're not.
• 58:16
  So I don't really understand the the difference here.
• 58:18
  I'm sick of hearing about what it's like.
• 58:20
  Holy fuck, dude. Just don't listen to it.
• 58:22
  Don't care. You don't have to care.
• 58:24
  That's The funny thing about it. You really don't even have to
• 58:26
  give that much of A shit if you don't want.
• 58:28
  It's still the fucking reality of the world.
• 58:30
  And if you guys actually gave a fuck, you know, you'd advocate
• 58:32
  in a way that would change things.
• 58:33
  But again, he doesn't care about any of that.
• 58:35
  He wants to send black people back to a different country like
• 58:37
  he wants to send them away. He doesn't care about what he's
• 58:40
  saying. He just doesn't want to care
• 58:41
  about anybody else's problems. But he wants you to deeply care
• 58:43
  about this imaginary fucking problem going on with white
• 58:45
  people, supposedly. I'll tell.
• 58:47
  You what? Nick, it's America, but Nick,
• 58:50
  you keep you can say stuff like that, OK, without having to say
• 58:53
  it like that. And we look that's.
• 58:54
  Not how it started though. This is a legitimate argument,
• 58:56
  but it's. Guys, Nick Hunter, what do you
• 58:58
  guys make of the concept of community collapse?
• 59:00
  Have you guys heard of this? No.
• 59:01
  So it's got nothing to do with race.
• 59:02
  It's got nothing to do with money.
• 59:03
  But this is kind of a crazy stat.
• 59:04
  So in 2019, before COVID, 76% of Americans said they were part of
• 59:07
  an in person community that gave them some kind of value after
• 59:09
  COVID, and this year it was 19%. So I think that politics and
• 59:12
  race aside, one of the biggest issues is the collapse of social
• 59:14
  bonds, third spaces, communities, in person
• 59:17
  engagement which comes with loneliness, more time online and
• 59:19
  more division. I understand.
• 59:20
  I feel like you guys aren't going to agree.
• 59:21
  I want to talk about what you guys think can be done on an
• 59:23
  individual and community level to stop people from hating each
• 59:25
  other and to create more belonging and engagement.
• 59:27
  Well. I don't know, get Donald Trump
• 59:30
  out of office. I mean, you the real answer.
• 59:32
  I mean, like, that's where it kind of boils down to.
• 59:34
  It's like social media. But also Donald Trump is a truly
• 59:37
  hateful individual who is very divisive.
• 59:39
  Like, it's impossible. It's very difficult for me.
• 59:41
  And I do have friends and family that are, well, not friends with
• 59:43
  family that are manga. It's, it's, it's almost
• 59:45
  impossible for me to like really like these people.
• 59:50
  It's impossible for me to like to people that run defence for
• 59:52
  like a pedophile rapist. It really makes it
• 59:54
  extraordinarily difficult. So I mean, but really the answer
• 59:59
  would be like you need some kind of like a like a rank choice
• 1:00:02
  voting in, you know, three or five party system or something
• 1:00:05
  where multiple parties got the opportunity to like really.
• 1:00:14
  Exist and advocate for their position so that there was a
• 1:00:16
  more, a greater distribution of different ideas going on.
• 1:00:20
  That's what we really need. So that you're not kind of
• 1:00:24
  pigeonholed into, you know, like the left or the right.
• 1:00:27
  You know, you have multiple options of things that you might
• 1:00:29
  want to do. That's kind of what we need more
• 1:00:31
  than anything else because everybody kind of like you get 2
• 1:00:36
  options. And then some people, you know,
• 1:00:38
  sometimes just like, I don't know if you want to call it
• 1:00:40
  biological, but sometimes like biologically, you just kind of
• 1:00:43
  felt like you get pigeon holed into one of two perspectives.
• 1:00:49
  You feel like you get pigeon holed in 100 perspectives and
• 1:00:51
  then you double down. It's like just kind of like a
• 1:00:52
  human element thing. So you know, I guarantee that
• 1:00:55
  there's a lot of people who are Trumpers who maybe wouldn't be
• 1:00:57
  Trumpers, who maybe would not be Trumpers if they didn't have to
• 1:01:01
  be. But they kind of like are just
• 1:01:03
  doubling down at this point. They don't want to feel stupid.
• 1:01:06
  That's like their that's their guy.
• 1:01:07
  But if they had a different guy, maybe they would be less fucking
• 1:01:09
  radical. So really we just need kind of
• 1:01:11
  like an entire infrastructure change when it comes to our
• 1:01:13
  political system, and that might help significantly.
• 1:01:17
  Number one, I take this OK for real podcasting.
• 1:01:20
  No, no, not podcasting this discussion for me to be able to
• 1:01:23
  sit down. Podcasting.
• 1:01:24
  Someone who I so vehemently disagree with and find some kind
• 1:01:27
  of common ground, but I mean. Guy at home Guy at home who's
• 1:01:30
  watching this on his phone just thinking I wish I could go
• 1:01:31
  outside but I don't know anyone. OK, well here's.
• 1:01:33
  What I'm talking about, it's all about.
• 1:01:34
  Bowling dude, you know, stop. Don't be afraid to like, feel
• 1:01:37
  stupid. I don't know, I mean, how much
• 1:01:38
  is, you know, that's part of it too.
• 1:01:40
  You know, there's not as many hobbies outside.
• 1:01:42
  Well, that's, that's gets into an entirely new problem.
• 1:01:44
  I mean, I'm going to be very anti capitalist right now, but
• 1:01:48
  there are fewer and fewer things to do outside of your house.
• 1:01:50
  And you have big businesses like Amazon who get massive subsidies
• 1:01:53
  and they don't even pay federal taxes.
• 1:01:54
  And their billionaire fucking owners don't pay taxes.
• 1:01:57
  Instead, they go to the bank and they take out loans against
• 1:01:59
  their net worth. And then they they're very low
• 1:02:00
  interest rates and then they don't pay themselves any money.
• 1:02:02
  And then they avoid paying federal taxes.
• 1:02:04
  And then they see how the chain of events keeps going on here.
• 1:02:05
  And then Amazon specifically has taken billions of dollars in
• 1:02:08
  losses to put bookstores out of business, to put other diaper
• 1:02:10
  companies out of business. And then what do you think
• 1:02:12
  they're doing to put malls out of business?
• 1:02:13
  It's the entire thing they engage in like some kind of like
• 1:02:15
  pseudo monopoly, you know, tactics over and over again.
• 1:02:22
  They they kill local infrastructure.
• 1:02:24
  You know, and I understand the part of it's that they have a
• 1:02:26
  nice convenience too, but they engage in like shitty, scummy
• 1:02:28
  tactics that our politicians don't do anything about because,
• 1:02:31
  you know, they pay off fucking they, they pay lobby groups.
• 1:02:33
  So let them do whatever the fuck they want.
• 1:02:34
  These are like some of the biggest problems.
• 1:02:36
  So you want to have like a real conversation, like, yeah, go
• 1:02:38
  outside more. You have to kind of like resist
• 1:02:40
  what's going on to some degree. And like the the changes that
• 1:02:43
  are that are happening, it's kind of a big thing as well, you
• 1:02:49
  know, But you know, some of there's too much of A
• 1:02:52
  stranglehold. A lot of companies like Amazon
• 1:02:55
  are selling you convenience. It's like the whole idea they're
• 1:03:00
  selling you a convenience and they're taking away your ability
• 1:03:02
  to not have the convenience. Connection.
• 1:03:06
  It is all. About they were even saying that
• 1:03:08
  before, like, yeah, they basically sell you a convenience
• 1:03:10
  that like it's kind of impossible to like, you know,
• 1:03:11
  what's everything's online now? Social media, everything's
• 1:03:14
  online. Yeah, that's part of the
• 1:03:16
  problem. Not actually connecting with
• 1:03:18
  people and I'm not talking about digitally connecting with people
• 1:03:20
  anonymously online. I'm talking about actually going
• 1:03:22
  out and connecting with people. And I don't I don't have an
• 1:03:24
  answer to that. I don't any of us, we are in a
• 1:03:26
  look, man, I just think that you are targeting the wrong problem,
• 1:03:29
  Nick. I think that our biggest problem
• 1:03:31
  right now doesn't have to do with a this cultural divide or
• 1:03:35
  racial divide or religious divide or the idea that that
• 1:03:38
  America is becoming less white or culturally relevant anymore.
• 1:03:42
  I think our biggest problem is, is literally an oligarchy that
• 1:03:45
  is inflaming every single single division that we have and the
• 1:03:48
  goal. Yeah, like I just said.
• 1:03:50
  By the way, and they're out for you, man, just as much as
• 1:03:52
  anybody. Else why don't I agree?
• 1:03:53
  To those platforms that we talk about that you're not allowed to
• 1:03:55
  be on because Elon's out on the platform.
• 1:03:57
  Elon doesn't give a shit about anything other than one thing.
• 1:03:59
  120 money, real quick money. It's his money.
• 1:04:01
  I don't necessarily even agree with that.
• 1:04:02
  OK. Why?
• 1:04:05
  Why are you? He's a Why is he an Elon Musk
• 1:04:07
  lazer? He may not.
• 1:04:08
  Be Oh, I guess because he got unbanned so he's like, oh, I
• 1:04:12
  love Elon Musk now he's my favorite he's my dad because.
• 1:04:14
  You don't want to piss off Elon Musk.
• 1:04:16
  Elon doesn't even like me, but I just didn't you're.
• 1:04:17
  Talking about the oligarchy, right?
• 1:04:18
  Like these billionaires, right? Like the goal of corporate
• 1:04:20
  capture of these industries is community collapse.
• 1:04:22
  They are trying to engineer things to make an antisocial.
• 1:04:24
  They want to eliminate every single small business.
• 1:04:26
  They want to make everyone a single person shopper, no
• 1:04:28
  carpooling like to be a lonely consumer who only buys things
• 1:04:31
  for themselves online and doesn't talk to anyone in real
• 1:04:33
  life. That's what they want in real
• 1:04:34
  life. Like all this data center shit,
• 1:04:35
  like everything they're doing is in a way trying to break up in
• 1:04:38
  person engagement. And I feel like for you guys, it
• 1:04:40
  might be hard to answer because both of you guys are what they
• 1:04:42
  call like controversial public figures.
• 1:04:43
  Like there's places that you like.
• 1:04:44
  In 2018, if you were to go to a dive bar in let's say, Poplar
• 1:04:47
  Bluff, MO, you would have been in danger.
• 1:04:48
  You know what I mean? At that time for you, you were
• 1:04:50
  in danger physically in a left wing city.
• 1:04:51
  It's just just the truth. So I feel like you guys have
• 1:04:53
  been deprived of the ability to have normal lives.
• 1:04:55
  You especially, you know, but I mean, you in general, but you
• 1:04:57
  feel like, you know, your controversies came a little bit
• 1:04:59
  later in life for you. I feel like you haven't even
• 1:05:01
  been able to grow up as a normal person.
• 1:05:02
  Is that? Yeah, that's true.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah. But that's like by his own
• 1:05:04
  design, although I doubt he knew it was going to be that bad.
• 1:05:06
  But like, yeah, that's kind of on him.
• 1:05:08
  I don't really feel too bad for him on that one.
• 1:05:11
  That's kind of like his thing. He decided to, I mean, he went,
• 1:05:16
  he went to be a political online figure, rage baiting for
• 1:05:19
  attention. And then the consequences of his
• 1:05:21
  own actions hit him. You know, and you probably, you
• 1:05:24
  know, things wouldn't have gone so bad if things had just stayed
• 1:05:26
  the same online where it was just a bunch of right wing
• 1:05:28
  fucking chuds on there, you know, being silly and and doing
• 1:05:30
  dumb ass shit. But things changed and then you
• 1:05:34
  got fucking cocked. Well, and in terms of, you know,
• 1:05:36
  building community back and everything like that, you know,
• 1:05:38
  the data says that really the loss of society is the fact that
• 1:05:41
  we don't encounter people anymore, for example, on your
• 1:05:43
  way to work or that's. What he's saying are you talking
• 1:05:45
  about then? You know, in ways that are
• 1:05:47
  unexpected. People wake up in their house,
• 1:05:49
  which is separate from everybody else.
• 1:05:50
  They get in their car by themselves, drive to work by
• 1:05:52
  themselves, you know, and then they meet with their colleagues
• 1:05:54
  and everything. But then they go right home, go
• 1:05:55
  home, have a beer, watch Netflix until they go to bed.
• 1:05:58
  Next day starts all over again. And so, you know, I think it has
• 1:06:00
  a lot to do with maybe how we structure the cities.
• 1:06:02
  I think honestly, a big part of it, there's like this abundance
• 1:06:06
  mindset with liberals. Liberals want to have prosperity
• 1:06:09
  and everything like that. How can you have that when the
• 1:06:13
  cities are not safe? I think that one of the ways,
• 1:06:15
  for example, if you want to have those encounters that are
• 1:06:18
  unplanned or spontaneous, they're going to happen maybe on
• 1:06:20
  the subway, on the bus, on your way to work.
• 1:06:21
  People don't want to ride the subway anymore.
• 1:06:23
  People don't want to ride the bus.
• 1:06:24
  I. Just feel that if you look at
• 1:06:25
  the data like right now. Well, that's, I mean, there's a
• 1:06:27
  level of truth, I guess, but part of it too is that people
• 1:06:29
  just feel unsafe, even if the even if the like right now, I
• 1:06:32
  think this is this is kind of true everywhere.
• 1:06:34
  People just don't feel as safe anymore as they used to.
• 1:06:36
  But part of it isn't the actual numbers.
• 1:06:39
  Part of it is just the fact that we're seeing shit on and social
• 1:06:41
  media that's making us afraid of everything.
• 1:06:43
  And I'm part of that, like, I am.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah, I'm scared too. Like, I'm like, there's things
• 1:06:47
  that that make me, you know, afraid of different things going
• 1:06:49
  on, Right. But like, look at that.
• 1:06:51
  Like, look at the the shit going on in.
• 1:06:55
  Look at the shit going on in England, where everybody's like,
• 1:06:56
  Oh my God, there's a huge takeover.
• 1:06:58
  But like year over year, for the most part, crime's pretty much
• 1:07:01
  down. Like crime is down over there,
• 1:07:06
  but still we're hearing all this shit like, oh, there's crime is
• 1:07:08
  so bad. It's getting worse, getting
• 1:07:10
  worse. All the it's usually just
• 1:07:11
  directed at Muslim people from like Elon Musk, who doesn't even
• 1:07:13
  live there. You know, even like Piers Morgan
• 1:07:15
  disagrees with the with this fucking bullshit that Musk is
• 1:07:17
  saying. So, you know, part of it's just
• 1:07:23
  like the way people feel. And that's because of like your
• 1:07:26
  algorithm is online is, is selling you rage bait.
• 1:07:29
  That's the whole point of it. It's rage baiting you so that
• 1:07:31
  you'll engage. That's the whole, that's the
• 1:07:34
  whole, that's the whole like thing.
• 1:07:36
  And Elon Musk is part of that. He goes online and signal boosts
• 1:07:38
  like disinformation about places he doesn't even go to.
• 1:07:41
  He hasn't been in like years because it's, it's beneficial to
• 1:07:45
  his algorithm to keep you online and to keep you frustrated so
• 1:07:49
  that you don't want to change anything.
• 1:07:51
  So you'll stay in your house and you'll.
• 1:07:52
  So you won't socially interact and you won't go outside and you
• 1:07:54
  won't talk to a black person. That's the whole point.
• 1:07:56
  What the fuck? 2026, I think 2025 had the
• 1:07:58
  lowest homicide rate of any year in America for like the past
• 1:08:00
  four years. I feel like if you compare data
• 1:08:02
  from the 90s, like the cities, I get what you're saying, but the
• 1:08:04
  cities I have noticed are a lot safer.
• 1:08:05
  They're also, you know, becoming more expensive as well.
• 1:08:07
  Could have something. To do with it, you're absolutely
• 1:08:08
  right and it's really what you're saying that is impossible
• 1:08:11
  to refute right because everybody has an experience with
• 1:08:14
  violence or witnessing crime or whether it's just in their local
• 1:08:18
  newspaper or not is that I don't think that that is in any way
• 1:08:21
  limited to only urban environments.
• 1:08:23
  I take those the top 10 poorest red states in the country, and
• 1:08:26
  their crime rates are 10 times what many urban centers are so.
• 1:08:29
  You'd be comparing like West Virginia coal country
• 1:08:31
  disenfranchised to like an urban neighborhood.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah, in terms. Of per capita crime in terms of
• 1:08:35
  per capita murder, in terms of per capita child sexual abuse,
• 1:08:38
  Yeah. I think the things that people
• 1:08:39
  really care about, you know, things like that, and it's their
• 1:08:41
  own personal safety. Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  It is not limited to African American urban or Latin Latino
• 1:08:46
  American urban environments. I know it's not.
• 1:08:48
  It exists. Carjackings do happen, but you
• 1:08:50
  know where they happen. They happen in Bloodtie,
• 1:08:51
  Mississippi just as much as they happen in Chicago.
• 1:08:53
  I'm skeptical of that. I mean.
• 1:08:55
  I think the idea of like safety. What's Because he hates left
• 1:08:57
  wing cities, right? So he wants to be skeptical of
• 1:09:00
  that. Like safety at risk, crime is
• 1:09:02
  going to. I feel like media has overblown
• 1:09:04
  that left of danger. Yeah, because there's like an
• 1:09:06
  incentive to do it. That's like the whole point.
• 1:09:08
  Fact Check both of us on on this and I but I agree with you is
• 1:09:10
  that but my point about it all of it is though is that you can
• 1:09:13
  always point to a reason, Nick. There's never been a time in
• 1:09:16
  which there hasn't been crime in major urban areas where you pack
• 1:09:19
  a lot of people in. You're right though, is that the
• 1:09:21
  difference between us feeling like each other, our neighbors,
• 1:09:25
  and that we can find some common ground is the fact you know you
• 1:09:28
  can live in existence now and by the time you're 56 years old and
• 1:09:31
  never really have to leave your house to make a living to you
• 1:09:34
  know you don't. True, I don't have to leave my
• 1:09:36
  house to make a living. Go to the Community Center
• 1:09:38
  anymore and I don't know how to fix that and I certainly don't
• 1:09:41
  connect the. Page of it, right?
• 1:09:42
  Because community is like an essential human, if not the most
• 1:09:44
  important thing. So when you are deprived of
• 1:09:45
  that, you're more likely to look for a radical solution and be
• 1:09:47
  like, everything's broken. We need to try something really
• 1:09:49
  out there. So you might embrace something
• 1:09:50
  more reactionary on left or right to be like, fuck this, you
• 1:09:53
  know, we need something new. And so I'm not trying to.
• 1:09:56
  Yeah, like, I mean, that would be part of the reason why Trump
• 1:09:57
  won. And to some degree that's like a
• 1:09:59
  that's a reason why Mandani won, right?
• 1:10:02
  Like he's something he's he's something different.
• 1:10:04
  That's kind of like the whole entire structure there.
• 1:10:06
  Oh, he's something different. He represents something
• 1:10:08
  different. That's the whole point of it.
• 1:10:09
  You. Know draw this like male
• 1:10:10
  loneliness like in cell pipeline that the media tries to do all
• 1:10:12
  the time. But do you see a connection
• 1:10:13
  there between like people being lonely and having less friends
• 1:10:15
  and some cultural choice taking over community value value
• 1:10:17
  systems or community engagement and people just like driving to
• 1:10:20
  the extreme? 100% I think social dislocation
• 1:10:22
  is probably the number one problem of our times because you
• 1:10:24
  look at the young people. But like, why do you think it
• 1:10:26
  is? He's just going to say black
• 1:10:27
  people or. Something, and you're right, it
• 1:10:28
  is one of those essential human needs is to connect and have
• 1:10:31
  that sense of familiarity to. He doesn't.
• 1:10:32
  He doesn't care about this, I can guarantee you that.
• 1:10:34
  He's just saying this is like a thing because he knows it's true
• 1:10:36
  and he needs to address it. And then he's not going to
• 1:10:38
  really. Like he's not going to.
• 1:10:39
  It's not going to be part of the way that he decides to interact
• 1:10:42
  with information. Though really to be seen, to see
• 1:10:44
  and to be seen. And that's something young
• 1:10:45
  people don't have. And I think by the way, if you
• 1:10:47
  look at the way young people socialize and even the
• 1:10:49
  mentality, I think a lot of young people have this absolute
• 1:10:51
  drive to go to college. Why?
• 1:10:53
  It's an extension of high school.
• 1:10:54
  And what do high school and college have in common?
• 1:10:55
  It's a community. You're in the quad, you can see
• 1:10:58
  and be seen. There's sort of like a status,
• 1:10:59
  reputation. You're constantly involved with
• 1:11:01
  other people. And I think everybody young
• 1:11:03
  people. OK what's wrong with going to
• 1:11:04
  school? This is it's going to be like
• 1:11:06
  another anti school thing even though like for the most part if
• 1:11:08
  you go to college you're going to do better off and if you
• 1:11:11
  don't trade school isn't bad either.
• 1:11:14
  But like, that's just the reality.
• 1:11:16
  Look at when they graduate from college, like falling off a
• 1:11:18
  Cliff and now life is over because now you just have your
• 1:11:20
  job, the gym and going back home and that's it and then.
• 1:11:23
  The fuck is going to the gym? That's why a lot of young people
• 1:11:24
  then want to move to the big cities, got to go to New York,
• 1:11:26
  got to go to Chicago or LA where it's happening and they want to
• 1:11:29
  get a condo or an apartment downtown because they want to go
• 1:11:31
  to the bar scene, extend college a little bit longer.
• 1:11:33
  And, and I think that's just not really a sustainable way to have
• 1:11:36
  a society. There has to be a way for people
• 1:11:37
  to still have that sense of community outside of let's say
• 1:11:40
  college and high school, even into their adulthood and then
• 1:11:42
  into their old age. So yeah, I mean that that's one
• 1:11:44
  of the biggest problems going on.
• 1:11:45
  And I agree. I think it drives even to your
• 1:11:47
  point about the whites only community in Arkansas.
• 1:11:49
  I think it is driving these, let's call it ghettoization or
• 1:11:52
  insulation of people going into these artificial values based
• 1:11:55
  communities. Because where are you going to
• 1:11:56
  find people? Go online, go online, start
• 1:11:59
  spying about politics or you know, even not just for in cells
• 1:12:01
  and right wingers, but even on the left.
• 1:12:03
  He's just, he's just info dumping at this point.
• 1:12:04
  He's hasanning right now. He's just saying things that
• 1:12:07
  sound OK. Oh OK, like I get it.
• 1:12:11
  But like most of it's just like most of it's just like anti
• 1:12:13
  college stuff and it's not going to get to the root of any
• 1:12:16
  problem. Someone like Tyler Robinson,
• 1:12:17
  he's on Discord. He's on Discord with all of the
• 1:12:20
  Overwatch players and all the. Overwatch players.
• 1:12:24
  GB, TQ or whatever. And I think that, you know,
• 1:12:26
  there's a tendency there where everybody kind of amplifies some
• 1:12:28
  of the resentment or feelings there, so.
• 1:12:30
  OK, you don't think it. I, I love that like for the most
• 1:12:33
  part, online communities are like very right wing, at least
• 1:12:37
  historically, but like now just fucking Overwatch and all the
• 1:12:41
  gay people on Overwatch, which is, it's fair.
• 1:12:43
  Overwatch is extraordinarily gay, let's be fucking real.
• 1:12:46
  But it's just funny. I agree that's a huge driver.
• 1:12:49
  So for you, like back in high school when you were like first
• 1:12:50
  kind of starting to use the Internet and all that, did you
• 1:12:52
  build most of your community in person outside Chicago or was it
• 1:12:54
  mostly online? When I was in high school or
• 1:12:55
  college, high school, high school, I had real friends in
• 1:12:57
  Model UN. That was my favorite.
• 1:12:59
  Thanks. So that was.
• 1:13:00
  What a fucking doofus we're. Still creating like some kind of
• 1:13:02
  content. At that time, not in high
• 1:13:03
  school. No.
• 1:13:04
  So you want to be you? Yes.
• 1:13:05
  Were most of your friends like classmates there?
• 1:13:06
  When did you start to kind of build your online persona and
• 1:13:08
  community around your? Content.
• 1:13:09
  It wasn't until I left college, so to that point I had friends
• 1:13:12
  in college and then when I left college and started my show
• 1:13:16
  independently, then it was all people online and everybody I
• 1:13:18
  knew was people from my community for the most part.
• 1:13:20
  But your cancellation from mainstream platforms was
• 1:13:22
  effectively the same thing as like a community collapse for
• 1:13:24
  your personal life, right? Yeah, well, I wouldn't even say
• 1:13:27
  it was just a cancellation, but even more just returning home
• 1:13:29
  from college. What do you think would have
• 1:13:30
  happened to you, like career wise and personal life wise if
• 1:13:33
  you never would have been mainstreamed?
• 1:13:34
  I mean, I guess removed from major social media platforms.
• 1:13:36
  Oh, it'd be a lot easier to make friends, let's say, because, you
• 1:13:39
  know, being banned on Instagram, you might as well be dead.
• 1:13:41
  In Generation Z, that's how everybody sees each other, meets
• 1:13:44
  each other, talks to each other. So I think I probably have a
• 1:13:46
  wider, livelier circle. Do you feel like?
• 1:13:48
  Do you? This kids terminally online with
• 1:13:51
  no meaningful friends like I I know he said he had friends.
• 1:13:53
  Whoa, he was some like he was a a model debate nerd.
• 1:13:58
  He was a model UN debate nerd. He's he just he didn't have any
• 1:14:01
  like real friends. Dude.
• 1:14:03
  I don't know what to tell you, but like, his life was very
• 1:14:06
  online and he was a big fucking nerdy doofus.
• 1:14:09
  And, you know, he was able to blow up on the Internet.
• 1:14:14
  That's kind of it, man. It's OK.
• 1:14:18
  Like had less friends after that.
• 1:14:19
  No, I'd say it's about the same. No, but I mean you said that
• 1:14:21
  like you feel like it would be easier to make friends.
• 1:14:22
  It would be easy to make more friends.
• 1:14:23
  Yeah, sure. So aside from your career, how
• 1:14:25
  is your like personal and social life affected in those following
• 1:14:27
  years? Well, it's brutal, you know, I
• 1:14:28
  mean, because everybody that I knew from high school is on
• 1:14:31
  Instagram, on Facebook and I'm just not on there.
• 1:14:33
  It's almost like you're removed from the earth for generation ZI
• 1:14:35
  understand for older people, for different generation, people
• 1:14:38
  still meet up or stay in touch in other ways.
• 1:14:39
  But if you're if you're not online as a young person, you
• 1:14:42
  might as well be dead. Do.
• 1:14:42
  You think you would have said? My man, the, the reason people
• 1:14:46
  wouldn't want to be around him is because he's a white
• 1:14:48
  supremacist. Do you think, do you think that
• 1:14:50
  it really has anything to do with the fact that he doesn't
• 1:14:53
  have a fucking Instagram? Like imagine seeing somebody
• 1:14:56
  like Nick Fuentes and all like the horrible shit that he says.
• 1:14:59
  Do you? Do you?
• 1:14:59
  Are you going to be like, oh, man, this is my guy.
• 1:15:01
  I really want to be friends with this guy.
• 1:15:04
  No, you're big. Oh, this guy's a fucking
• 1:15:05
  dickhead, man. Like, what the fuck?
• 1:15:07
  I don't want to be friends with this guy.
• 1:15:09
  That would be like your actual interaction with that.
• 1:15:12
  What the fuck is he talking about?
• 1:15:14
  Everything's just such a weird little cosplay for him.
• 1:15:16
  It's so fucking ridiculous. Said, like, some of the more
• 1:15:19
  extreme things that you did say, if you, you know, I guess, were
• 1:15:21
  allowed to remain on the mainstream Internet.
• 1:15:23
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:15:23
  Looking back, and I'm not trying to get you to, like, take
• 1:15:25
  something back necessarily. What's like one thing that you
• 1:15:27
  said when you were younger where you're like, fuck, I wish I
• 1:15:28
  could take that back. You know, I don't know if I
• 1:15:30
  regret. How about all the stuff about
• 1:15:31
  how much he loved Hitler? What I've said, it's just how
• 1:15:34
  you say it. Yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Like can you? Think of an example of like when
• 1:15:36
  you listen back to something you're like jeez.
• 1:15:37
  Yeah, yeah. So I did this rally in 2023
• 1:15:39
  called Fuentes Rally 2 and. Hey, what about the?
• 1:15:42
  What about the Trump rally? What about the January 6th that
• 1:15:45
  you did you want to talk about that or no?
• 1:15:47
  The one comment I said we're talking about a spiritual battle
• 1:15:50
  between Christians and everybody else.
• 1:15:51
  You guys remember when you talked about how black people,
• 1:15:53
  it's like the same, the same with a black person's sitting
• 1:15:55
  with a dog. Do you remember that?
• 1:15:57
  And I said, we're in a holy war. I said, and we're going to make
• 1:16:00
  them die in a holy war. And the second I said that, I
• 1:16:02
  was like, didn't mean to say that.
• 1:16:04
  It's an extemporaneous speech. So you don't rehearse it.
• 1:16:06
  You just say things. And I was like, didn't mean
• 1:16:08
  that, shouldn't have said that. So it's always the how, it's
• 1:16:11
  always in the delivery that I. I can think of about four things
• 1:16:14
  that I really wish you would take back right now.
• 1:16:17
  The cookies in the oven. Well, that's a joke.
• 1:16:19
  But it's not. Yeah, he, he, he.
• 1:16:21
  God, Nick. My wife is Jewish.
• 1:16:23
  My son is Jewish. No, no, no.
• 1:16:24
  Nick. Nick.
• 1:16:24
  Nick. Nick.
• 1:16:25
  Nick. Nick.
• 1:16:25
  Nick. I promise you don't get mad.
• 1:16:26
  I'm not mad. I know.
• 1:16:27
  I know. But OK.
• 1:16:28
  But you got to understand how incredibly, incredibly, whether
• 1:16:32
  it's a joke or not, it's a lived experience.
• 1:16:37
  I like Hunter Biden but dude, you're just not getting the
• 1:16:39
  point man. That's that's the point.
• 1:16:41
  Like this is The thing is that jokes to to white supremacists
• 1:16:45
  are just fucking bigot bigotry. They just that's it.
• 1:16:49
  It's like, yeah, it's a joke. When he makes the joke about
• 1:16:51
  the, the cookies in the oven and, you know, you know the
• 1:16:54
  rest, which is just supposed to basically be a downplaying of
• 1:16:58
  Jewish people dying in the Holocaust.
• 1:17:00
  He know it's a joke. It's a joke with the joke
• 1:17:02
  meaning, Hey, I don't believe that the Holocaust is like real.
• 1:17:05
  Like that is the that is the joke.
• 1:17:09
  He knows that he's just playing, you know, that's just a joke.
• 1:17:11
  I was just obviously he know we, we, I mean, come on, don't,
• 1:17:14
  don't say like, oh, it's more than just a joke to this guy.
• 1:17:19
  He like he doesn't care. He doesn't believe it.
• 1:17:21
  Passed down from generation to generation.
• 1:17:23
  You're not going to be able to communicate empathy to somebody
• 1:17:25
  when they know what they're doing.
• 1:17:26
  He's not just saying something that's a joke.
• 1:17:28
  And he's like, oh, I didn't even realize that he's saying
• 1:17:31
  something. He's saying something he means,
• 1:17:34
  and he's using it, the joke as an excuse.
• 1:17:36
  Yeah, that's true. That's actually a great point.
• 1:17:37
  I didn't even think of it like that.
• 1:17:39
  He says it's just a joke when he downplays how many like Jewish
• 1:17:42
  people died in the Holocaust. But then if you make a joke
• 1:17:44
  about Charlie Kirk fucking being a pain in the neck, all of a
• 1:17:46
  sudden this is like the most oppressive fucking thing in the
• 1:17:49
  entire world to him. Yeah, that's fucking crazy.
• 1:17:52
  Good job buddy. Whether or not, and by the way,
• 1:17:54
  not just from the Holocaust, not from not just from 1939 on 2000
• 1:17:58
  years of history. OK, forget about Israeli
• 1:18:01
  politics in in Netanyahu, because I think we agree about
• 1:18:04
  Bibi Netanyahu. I'm positive we do.
• 1:18:05
  And I've listened to you talk about it.
• 1:18:07
  But you got to understand, look at me, man.
• 1:18:09
  I see. It hurts.
• 1:18:10
  Look at me man, I see you. It hurts.
• 1:18:13
  I promise you it doesn't. He's going to troll them, does
• 1:18:16
  it? Does when you compare.
• 1:18:18
  He doesn't care dude. My wife's family to cookies go
• 1:18:22
  into an oven. It hurts and you got to
• 1:18:24
  understand that and. He does.
• 1:18:26
  He doesn't care. By the way, I'm looking at you.
• 1:18:27
  Yeah, you're getting trolled. He's he's.
• 1:18:29
  You're getting trolled right now.
• 1:18:31
  And I believe that you do know that.
• 1:18:32
  So that's where you. Lose me, that's where you lose
• 1:18:33
  me. OK, Nick, OK, I'm telling.
• 1:18:35
  Well, listen, are we here to talk or are you here to lecture
• 1:18:37
  me and. Pretty.
• 1:18:37
  No, you're right. Let me listen.
• 1:18:38
  OK, so you're right. So.
• 1:18:39
  This is the thing, because you know, and I think this is a
• 1:18:41
  disconnect. I think that the laughed and
• 1:18:43
  even people on the right, they're losing the young people.
• 1:18:45
  Why do people love me? Not in spite of, but because of
• 1:18:48
  the outrageous things that I say.
• 1:18:49
  Not in spite of, but because I say offensive things because.
• 1:18:52
  Because people are angry and they're hateful and they want to
• 1:18:54
  be angry and hateful and they want to feel justified in their
• 1:18:56
  anger and hatred. That's really not that
• 1:18:59
  complicated. Like, that's pretty much it.
• 1:19:01
  It does nothing. Like if they're like, that's it.
• 1:19:03
  Like it's the same reason why fucking people like Hassan
• 1:19:05
  Parker more and more every day, because he just like the people
• 1:19:08
  that are willing to say angry, hateful things on whatever side
• 1:19:11
  that they're on are going to generate a good amount of
• 1:19:14
  traction. That's pretty much all it comes
• 1:19:15
  down to. Yeah, that's it.
• 1:19:19
  And also he's like a mousy little guy and he feels like non
• 1:19:22
  threatening. It's all, all those things.
• 1:19:25
  As I let's say drop the N word on a video or.
• 1:19:27
  Something it's. Because people are sick of the.
• 1:19:30
  Not the big boy word. What the Sigma?
• 1:19:32
  Preachiness. No.
• 1:19:33
  The lecturing. OK, I listen.
• 1:19:34
  To really are. But Nick, I see I disagree.
• 1:19:36
  I think that you're appealing to the lowest common denominator of
• 1:19:40
  thought if. Yeah, of course he knows that.
• 1:19:41
  He likes that. He makes money off.
• 1:19:42
  Of you're hating on the people that they think are the reason
• 1:19:45
  for their suffering, then you must be on their side.
• 1:19:48
  I don't think that you believe that about the Holocaust.
• 1:19:49
  I think you think the Holocaust did happen, but forget it.
• 1:19:52
  Maybe it's possible? About whether or not you think
• 1:19:54
  that it is used politically in a way that is obtuse and wrong.
• 1:19:58
  But I think that you do believe that, and I think that you have
• 1:20:00
  to like, what's your cultural heritage?
• 1:20:02
  I'm Italian, Mexican and Irish. He's mostly Mexican, that's why
• 1:20:05
  his name is Fuentes. Mexican When?
• 1:20:07
  When did they come in Italian? When did they?
• 1:20:08
  When did the Mexicans come? When did the Irish come?
• 1:20:10
  Mexicans came turn of the last century.
• 1:20:12
  Italians came in the 1860s, Irish came in the early 1900s.
• 1:20:16
  So maybe you wouldn't care about something that is like grossly
• 1:20:19
  offensive just on the face of it and think that, oh, why can't
• 1:20:22
  people just believe that? That's funny.
• 1:20:23
  But you got to understand this from a perspective of somebody
• 1:20:26
  that has the the trauma. And I think that there is such a
• 1:20:28
  thing as generational trauma and those stories are passed down
• 1:20:30
  generation to generation. When you say something like
• 1:20:32
  that, it just, it completely cut off.
• 1:20:34
  They can't hear another thing that you're saying about this
• 1:20:36
  cultural disconnect, about losing communities, about the,
• 1:20:38
  about the feeling of being left out or left being.
• 1:20:41
  I mean that is true, but you know, again, what does this
• 1:20:44
  trolling sound? Behind in a world in which there
• 1:20:46
  are no longer is this sense of community.
• 1:20:48
  All the other things that you say, everybody else is left and
• 1:20:51
  you would you do pick up? You pick up the ones that hear
• 1:20:54
  the dog whistle. You pick up the ones that say.
• 1:20:56
  Yeah, he knows that. That's what.
• 1:20:59
  He likes yeah, that's the way that I feel because it's that's.
• 1:21:01
  What he likes about it, dude. Radical it's it's like he's
• 1:21:03
  willing to say the thing that nobody else will say in this
• 1:21:06
  environment. And then you you get, you know,
• 1:21:08
  an enormous amount of niche, but you know, but love from that.
• 1:21:12
  And I don't, but I just don't. That's his platform, yes.
• 1:21:15
  Believe that you believe that I don't.
• 1:21:16
  I don't believe that you think that it was appropriate for you
• 1:21:18
  to say something like that. I don't think it's you believe
• 1:21:20
  that it's appropriate to say women shouldn't vote.
• 1:21:21
  Let's give Nick a second to respond to the first.
• 1:21:23
  Thing I know I talk constantly. That's how I that's how I do
• 1:21:25
  this. It's all good.
• 1:21:26
  It's all good. I.
• 1:21:27
  Apologize, I get it and I understand that perspective and
• 1:21:29
  I you know, it is offensive and it is provocative and and that.
• 1:21:32
  That's why he says it for attention.
• 1:21:33
  Sort of what makes it funny, I mean, what we would say in our
• 1:21:36
  generations, edge lording, we're being edgy, we're being
• 1:21:38
  provocative. And I think that it is that kind
• 1:21:40
  of overbearing sense for our entire.
• 1:21:42
  I'm the king of edge Lord well. I think he's a king of doing
• 1:21:46
  drugs, but OK this. Whole.
• 1:21:48
  Video is a shit idea and judging by the comments and only start
• 1:21:50
  to promote Nick, of course that's the whole point of what's
• 1:21:52
  going on is to promote Nick's audience like that is his whole
• 1:21:56
  big shtick. Like that's the whole point of
• 1:21:58
  it, right? It's unfortunate.
• 1:22:00
  I don't, I don't like so far, I don't think anything like
• 1:22:02
  interesting or productive really happened.
• 1:22:04
  I think when it comes to putting Nick Funtas online, like it's
• 1:22:07
  always the same people saying the same shit.
• 1:22:09
  Not to fucking glaze them, but the only person that really
• 1:22:11
  should give Nick Funtas an audience is probably somebody
• 1:22:15
  like Destiny. Like really, when it boils down
• 1:22:17
  to it, no, like every time anyone else does it, Nick comes
• 1:22:21
  out looking so much better. Like he just like he's never
• 1:22:27
  going to shake lose his like shaking of his base because
• 1:22:29
  logic and facts don't matter. Like you could sit here and
• 1:22:32
  prove prove as much information about how there's not a, you
• 1:22:35
  know, white disenfranchisement in the United States and how
• 1:22:38
  he's actually, you know, being white.
• 1:22:40
  Is they basically DEI since our president is a violent fucking
• 1:22:43
  pedophile rapist and Montani gets shit for lowering the crime
• 1:22:48
  rate, you know, just because he's brown.
• 1:22:51
  They don't care, but they like the jokes, the edgy memes and
• 1:22:53
  Hunter's like, oh, Nick, you got to understand the the cookie
• 1:22:56
  joke about Jewish people and ovens.
• 1:22:57
  It's not funny. It's you know, it really draws
• 1:22:59
  the wrong like, yeah, no shit, that's what he wants.
• 1:23:01
  So it really wasn't a very good idea.
• 1:23:03
  I think that they thought it would be a good idea, but like
• 1:23:06
  you have to you really there needs to be more productive push
• 1:23:08
  back and it needs to be somebody that understands Nick in the
• 1:23:10
  game that he plays and not just kind of like whatever the fuck
• 1:23:14
  this is. Let's let's let Nick explain
• 1:23:16
  the. Psychology, you know, it's, it's
• 1:23:17
  that overbearingness that my generation's had our entire
• 1:23:20
  lives. That's not appropriate.
• 1:23:21
  That's not funny. Think of the trauma.
• 1:23:23
  That's racist. It's not appropriate, guys.
• 1:23:25
  That's white supremacist. That makes it funny, that makes
• 1:23:27
  it different, interesting. And let let me grant by the way,
• 1:23:30
  I think that now and this. This is so online because
• 1:23:32
  there's no overbearingness of any of this.
• 1:23:34
  This is what's so funny. Like, I'm a little older, right?
• 1:23:36
  It's like 10 years older. I'm so dude, I see the worst
• 1:23:39
  shit in the entire world that I don't even want to talk about it
• 1:23:41
  all the time. I actually started my TikTok
• 1:23:43
  career saying edgy shit. Even though I was left-leaning,
• 1:23:44
  it was still edgy as fuck. But like this is The thing is
• 1:23:48
  that like it's not there's no overbearing this to any of this
• 1:23:51
  to any of these people. Like you guys don't understand.
• 1:23:53
  Back in the day, we just kept it to our friend group.
• 1:23:58
  That's the difference is Nick is like I want to be.
• 1:24:01
  This is the problem. This is the entitlement of like
• 1:24:02
  these young white supremacists is they're like, listen, back in
• 1:24:05
  the day, it's like, hey, I want to say edgy shit about
• 1:24:07
  everything. I want to make jokes about like
• 1:24:08
  Jewish people, black people, Hispanic people, cancer, fucking
• 1:24:12
  horrific, terrible shit. You know, I remember, you know,
• 1:24:16
  I'd play fucking like games like Dota and I'd tell people
• 1:24:18
  horrible, horrible things. I can write a fucking Almanac of
• 1:24:22
  slurs and horrible things to say to people.
• 1:24:24
  I was like fucking, I was like a poet with the horrible shit that
• 1:24:27
  I said. But I knew that like you
• 1:24:29
  shouldn't say that offline. We had some, we had some fucking
• 1:24:33
  decorum guys, right? Nowadays, these kids are so
• 1:24:37
  fucking entitled. He's not even a kid.
• 1:24:39
  He's 27. But these kids are so fucking
• 1:24:41
  entitled. They want to be racist in the
• 1:24:44
  real world. It's like, dude, you can't do
• 1:24:46
  that. Just be racist with your
• 1:24:50
  friends. And that's the, that's the
• 1:24:52
  entitlement of like young edgy people is that they want to be
• 1:24:55
  like racist to everybody publicly.
• 1:24:58
  They want to basically go into a mall and scream the N word.
• 1:25:01
  That's what they want to do. But like online it's like, no
• 1:25:04
  dude, be cool like the rest of us just fucking be, just be
• 1:25:06
  racist. Just be racist and private dude.
• 1:25:09
  Just find a select group of a couple of cool friends and just
• 1:25:12
  fucking start mouth to start mouthing off some slur.
• 1:25:15
  Oh dude, I guess I just start mouthing off some slurs dude.
• 1:25:19
  That's it. You can still do that because
• 1:25:21
  nobody will find out about it unless your friends hate you and
• 1:25:23
  expose you. These guys are so fucking
• 1:25:26
  entitled that they're like, I was, I I love going online and
• 1:25:29
  saying the N word. And then he got cancelled from
• 1:25:31
  college. Yeah, dude, probably.
• 1:25:34
  Yeah, yes. It shouldn't, shouldn't happen
• 1:25:36
  to me. Why?
• 1:25:37
  Why, dude? You know what I mean?
• 1:25:39
  That's crazy, man. It's not even the word.
• 1:25:41
  It's just like, it's like how antisocial of a be like imagine
• 1:25:44
  it's a, let's look at this from a job perspective.
• 1:25:46
  Like imagine you're hiring somebody and they'd like they
• 1:25:48
  say the N word publicly or online.
• 1:25:50
  It's like there's the racism factor.
• 1:25:52
  Obviously you shouldn't be seeing racist shit, but they
• 1:25:54
  take that factor away. You're an anti socialist.
• 1:25:57
  Fuck. What if one of your clients is
• 1:25:58
  black and rich? You know what I mean?
• 1:26:01
  That's is it. What if one of your clients is
• 1:26:03
  black and rich and now you've lost a client because you can't
• 1:26:08
  keep your fucking mouth shut because you're stupid?
• 1:26:10
  That's what the that's the problem.
• 1:26:11
  Nobody cares. Like a lot of people out of this
• 1:26:13
  business don't even care about racism, but they care about like
• 1:26:15
  the fact that it's like insanely, you know, anti social
• 1:26:18
  behavior. And if you're the kind of person
• 1:26:19
  that's going to like yell the N word or say it publicly, you're
• 1:26:21
  probably also the kind of person that's going to like eat your
• 1:26:23
  own shit or like fucking eat paste at your table or something
• 1:26:25
  or start jacking off to like fucking rule 34.
• 1:26:29
  OK, It's all it's all in the same atmosphere.
• 1:26:31
  What it is, man, Stop it. This is maybe a concession
• 1:26:34
  towards you now that my kind of humor has become mainstream and
• 1:26:37
  popular. I don't think that's funny
• 1:26:39
  anymore. People do the edge lording
• 1:26:40
  thing. It's become so commonplace and
• 1:26:42
  so tired. You sound fucking cringe.
• 1:26:44
  It's it's, it's not, it's not cool anymore because everyone
• 1:26:46
  doesn't I. Don't think it's that funny or
• 1:26:47
  impressive. That's a big part of why I kind
• 1:26:49
  of moved past it because 10 years ago.
• 1:26:50
  You still doing it? He still does it in like Piers
• 1:26:53
  Morgan. What are you talking about?
• 1:26:54
  What? He was treated like
• 1:26:55
  sacrilegious, and there's something funny about the fact
• 1:26:57
  that you could say a word or make a joke and make people lose
• 1:27:00
  their minds and freak out and. Like the jungler?
• 1:27:02
  It was like an Internet national incident if you said the wrong
• 1:27:04
  thing. And I think that's what made
• 1:27:05
  made it tempting, especially for a young person.
• 1:27:08
  You want to rebel, you want to be defiant, you want to be a
• 1:27:10
  little revolutionary or something.
• 1:27:12
  Now as time has gone on, I think that's become a fad.
• 1:27:14
  Everybody does it. It's lost.
• 1:27:15
  It's it's. Become a what?
• 1:27:17
  What the hell is he saying? Dude, what the Sigma?
• 1:27:20
  Power. And I think that, by the way,
• 1:27:22
  part of why we're getting less of it is because instead of
• 1:27:24
  getting the preachy lecture from the left saying that's not
• 1:27:27
  appropriate, people just roll their eyes.
• 1:27:28
  Now when an edgy white person says the N word, people roll
• 1:27:31
  their eyes and go, really? You know that joke again?
• 1:27:33
  People hear someone wears a Nazi costume, makes a Holocaust joke,
• 1:27:36
  People go, really, that joke again, it's not impressive.
• 1:27:38
  It's not funny anymore. It is true.
• 1:27:40
  This part I can actually agree with.
• 1:27:42
  Part of this, this is true. I keep telling fucking racist to
• 1:27:44
  come up with better material. You know, it's, it's getting
• 1:27:47
  fucking boring as hell. Seen it before and ironically
• 1:27:50
  that is what makes you get less of it when you disempower those
• 1:27:52
  things by not giving them this over the top reaction,
• 1:27:55
  pretending like it's some some great travesty.
• 1:27:57
  So you think the new counterculture is going to be to
• 1:27:58
  be woke again? No, I think it's a synthesis.
• 1:28:00
  A synthesis of post edge lordism and woke ISM.
• 1:28:03
  Yes, because I think that woke ISM had its excesses.
• 1:28:06
  What the fuck? Edge lording also has its
• 1:28:08
  excesses, and I think now we're finding a middle ground between.
• 1:28:11
  I love the the philosophical conversation about like,
• 1:28:13
  basically shitting and eating yourself.
• 1:28:14
  He's shooting your pants and eating it.
• 1:28:15
  You know what? I.
• 1:28:15
  Mean saying the edgiest thing we can can think of with no regard
• 1:28:18
  for anyone and saying everything is racist.
• 1:28:20
  You know, if you say something, you should lose your job.
• 1:28:22
  We're finding a middle ground where, you know, maybe it's
• 1:28:24
  tasteful. Well.
• 1:28:25
  That's The thing is nobody's saying just because you do it or
• 1:28:27
  people are saying it, but I'm I'm not saying just because you,
• 1:28:29
  you're racist means you should lose your job.
• 1:28:31
  It just means you probably will. And like you're an idiot, you're
• 1:28:34
  dumb. You know, you let's you ever see
• 1:28:38
  the people where like a dog will run at them and they'll just
• 1:28:40
  stand still? Oh my God, a dog's coming like
• 1:28:42
  that. Zero survival instincts like
• 1:28:44
  learn. Not learning to mask your racism
• 1:28:46
  is just 0 survival instincts dude.
• 1:28:48
  Like grow the fuck up you know? Recapture your survival
• 1:28:51
  instincts. Stop being so dumb and fucking
• 1:28:55
  racist. That's what it is man.
• 1:28:57
  Like learn to survive, can't just be going around saying
• 1:29:00
  racist shit. Learn to survive dude.
• 1:29:02
  Learn to be smarter. Peacefully offensive in small
• 1:29:04
  doses. Less is more.
• 1:29:06
  So it sounds like you believe in the survival of the American
• 1:29:08
  experiment. Yeah, I really do.
• 1:29:09
  And and listen, I don't think everything about wokeism was
• 1:29:11
  bad. He doesn't believe in the
• 1:29:12
  American experiment. He wants to get rid of all
• 1:29:14
  minorities. That's not the American
• 1:29:15
  experiment. Necessarily, what's the best
• 1:29:16
  thing about wokeism? I think that genuinely it has
• 1:29:19
  made people more respectful and empathetic because let's be
• 1:29:22
  honest, 20 years ago, let's say when I was growing up, I think
• 1:29:24
  there was a lot of cruelty and I think there there were some
• 1:29:26
  hateful attitudes. And I think as time has gone on,
• 1:29:29
  this younger generation, they may not be even left wing, they
• 1:29:31
  may not be what you'd consider woke, but I think they are
• 1:29:33
  respectful of people that have different ideas or, you know,
• 1:29:36
  different way of life or from a different culture.
• 1:29:37
  You know, I, we make jokes all the time about the fact that I'm
• 1:29:40
  like a far right guy and I'm Mexican.
• 1:29:41
  People say I'm a white supremacist, I'm Mexican and
• 1:29:43
  people make a joke that a lot of far right people are Hispanic.
• 1:29:46
  And I think that's a consequence that there's very little genuine
• 1:29:48
  racial hatred in in anybody's DNA anymore or any.
• 1:29:54
  I think it's more that like Hispanic people feel like
• 1:29:57
  they're white. I think this probably more of
• 1:30:01
  what's going on, but OK, sure. I guess I just it's like very
• 1:30:07
  flip floppy. Now you're saying that people
• 1:30:10
  OK, sure, we've been more accepting and it's allowed non
• 1:30:15
  white people to be white supremacists and to be accepted.
• 1:30:17
  OK, cool. Incredible.
• 1:30:20
  Any kind of hatred, and I think that's positive, but that went
• 1:30:22
  too far. I think some of the other stuff
• 1:30:24
  went too far as well. You know, one of these strange
• 1:30:26
  things about sitting in a room with these two is that they
• 1:30:28
  agree on almost nothing, but they've both lived the same
• 1:30:31
  nightmare. Hunter had a laptop turned into
• 1:30:33
  a decade of strangers picking through his texts, his private
• 1:30:35
  photos, his voice. Yeah, Nick Fuentes said a bunch
• 1:30:37
  of things got him in trouble. They don't think that they're
• 1:30:40
  living the same nightmare to be honest with.
• 1:30:41
  You memo and even his bank record.
• 1:30:43
  Whereas Nick has been doxed, swatted, had his DMS leaked
• 1:30:46
  probably more times than he can count, and more shenanigans.
• 1:30:48
  Different politics, but kind of the same experience.
• 1:30:49
  Somebody, somewhere, they decided that they're.
• 1:30:51
  Not really that I like Andrew, but this is part of the both
• 1:30:56
  sides problem. We're comparing 2 things.
• 1:30:57
  But you know what, Hunter Biden, you maybe I just don't care that
• 1:30:59
  somebody with the drugs and and had sex with prostitutes.
• 1:31:02
  They just don't give a fuck about that.
• 1:31:04
  I don't, I don't their. Personal information was public
• 1:31:06
  property, so they exhumed it and sent it off to the world.
• 1:31:08
  But here's the thing that most people don't know a huge amount
• 1:31:10
  of that information actually isn't stolen.
• 1:31:12
  It's for sale. Legally.
• 1:31:14
  Currently, there are over 420 companies called Data Brokers
• 1:31:17
  whose entire business is collecting your home address,
• 1:31:19
  your phone number, your relatives, your previous
• 1:31:21
  addresses, your income bracket, and selling access to anybody
• 1:31:24
  who pays. Last October, one of these
• 1:31:25
  vendors got breached and 70,000 people had their government IDs
• 1:31:28
  exposed in one day. That's what this ecosystem looks
• 1:31:30
  like when it fails and it fails. Damn, how's the save act going
• 1:31:33
  to work then? What the fuck?
• 1:31:34
  Constantly, you might be thinking, OK, but I'm not Hunter
• 1:31:36
  Biden, Andrew Callahan or Nick Fuentes.
• 1:31:39
  I am all those three people, but you might be Charlie Kirk.
• 1:31:41
  Nobody's coming after me, and honestly, I get that.
• 1:31:44
  But here's what actually happens when your info is sitting in
• 1:31:46
  these databases. Every spam call you get, Every
• 1:31:48
  spam text about a package you didn't order.
• 1:31:50
  Every weird e-mail from a bank that you don't use.
• 1:31:52
  That's the data broker economy. It's why scammers know your name
• 1:31:55
  before they call. This issue is affecting so many
• 1:31:57
  my. Name.
• 1:31:58
  I don't even know my own name but the fuck how they get that?
• 1:32:00
  Arrogance. The FBI Just.
• 1:32:02
  Said it's so funny though, like sometimes somebody will like
• 1:32:04
  message me the like hey, here's your address.
• 1:32:05
  And I'm like, OK dude, I know that already.
• 1:32:07
  Like you're not. You're not really impressing me
• 1:32:08
  with information I already know. That Americans lost $21 billion
• 1:32:12
  to online fraud last year and Americans over 60 lost 7.7
• 1:32:15
  billion of them and the fastest growing category of scam types
• 1:32:18
  relates to AI voice clones it's a scam where somebody calls your
• 1:32:20
  mom pretending to be you and your voice from a number that
• 1:32:23
  looks like yours it's. Fucking crazy, dude.
• 1:32:26
  That's really going to cook a whole generation of people.
• 1:32:28
  You're going to be so skeptical you're not even going to be able
• 1:32:30
  to. Like you're going to have to.
• 1:32:31
  You're not even going to be able to FaceTime your family soon
• 1:32:34
  because they might just be AI. You know what I mean?
• 1:32:36
  Dude, it's fucking crazy but. Guess what?
• 1:32:38
  That scam doesn't work if the scammer doesn't already know
• 1:32:40
  your name, your mom's name, and her phone number.
• 1:32:42
  And guess where they got that stuff?
• 1:32:43
  All three data progress. This is why we need races back.
• 1:32:45
  You have to get the scammer. You have to make sure all your
• 1:32:48
  family says racial slurs and if the scammer isn't willing to say
• 1:32:51
  it then you know it's not your real family.
• 1:32:53
  Is also the issue of who can find your address, any ex, any
• 1:32:56
  estranged family member, anybody from a situation ship you left
• 1:32:58
  years ago who went crazy. 20 bucks on a people search site
• 1:33:01
  and they know where you live right now.
• 1:33:03
  Most people don't think about that until it matters and by
• 1:33:04
  then it's too late. You're dead.
• 1:33:06
  That's where Connie comes in. You just sign up and they take
• 1:33:08
  it from there. They contact.
• 1:33:09
  You guys know I watched the ads. That's the whole point.
• 1:33:12
  Data brokers directly demand that your info be removed and
• 1:33:14
  send fresh sweeps every 60 to 90 days so nothing quietly gets
• 1:33:17
  added back. They've processed over
• 1:33:18
  245,000,000 removal requests to date.
• 1:33:21
  And unlike most other competitors in this industry,
• 1:33:23
  they had Delotte, they had Deloitte, they had De Leote, one
• 1:33:25
  of the BIG4 auditing firms, independently verify how many
• 1:33:28
  brokers they cover and how often they actually follow up.
• 1:33:30
  The numbers didn't lie. The numbers aren't marketing,
• 1:33:32
  they are audited. Incogni is the shit they didn't
• 1:33:34
  come to play around. And guess what?
• 1:33:36
  On the Unlimited and Family Unlimited plans, you also get
• 1:33:38
  their exposure scanner. It crawls the web looking for
• 1:33:40
  personal info outside the usual broker sites and hands anything
• 1:33:44
  it finds to Incognies removal specialists who are real people,
• 1:33:46
  not AI robots. On the other side, recently I
• 1:33:48
  ran my own info through incognity and immediately found
• 1:33:50
  old addresses, phone numbers, and family members listed across
• 1:33:52
  a bunch of people search websites.
• 1:33:54
  Within the first week, though, dozens of removal requests were
• 1:33:56
  already in progress, and you can watch the whole thing happen on
• 1:33:59
  the Incogni dashboard. Go to incogni.com/channel 5.
• 1:34:02
  Use code Channel 5. All caps 60% off.
• 1:34:04
  All right, back to 100. Nick Hablas Espanol.
• 1:34:06
  No, not a little bit, I guess from high school.
• 1:34:09
  Can you do a little bit? Fake Hispanic dude food.
• 1:34:12
  Poke. I don't speak it from my dad.
• 1:34:14
  So did you grow up like around a lot of Mexicans?
• 1:34:15
  No, all white people for the most part.
• 1:34:17
  Did they know you were Mexican? They did.
• 1:34:19
  And not going to lie, I mean people, people made fun of me
• 1:34:21
  for that. What they say.
• 1:34:22
  Well, like for example, one time when I was in model UNI, was
• 1:34:25
  entering high school as a freshman, they looked at my name
• 1:34:28
  on the roster without knowing me.
• 1:34:29
  And they told me this after the fact, the leadership of the
• 1:34:31
  club. They said, oh, we thought you
• 1:34:32
  were just some Mexican kids and we gave you a bad committee
• 1:34:34
  assignment. Wow.
• 1:34:35
  But see, I heard that and I laughed.
• 1:34:38
  Sounds like systemic racism. I said that's, that's funny, you
• 1:34:41
  know, where's a lot of people would say, oh, that's traumatic.
• 1:34:43
  I'm a victim of racism. You know, I think that's, you
• 1:34:45
  know, it's, it's just a human thing.
• 1:34:47
  I was sure. I mean, I think everybody at
• 1:34:49
  some point in their life gets disenfranchised for something
• 1:34:52
  going on in their life that's an immutable characteristic or
• 1:34:55
  something out of their control. I just think it's interesting
• 1:34:59
  that you had this issue where you were that you got systemic
• 1:35:03
  racism and you have no empathy for it.
• 1:35:06
  But OK, it felt like growing up as like a white kid in America.
• 1:35:08
  What if you went, wait, what if, what if you were and identified
• 1:35:12
  as being Mexican and they came and they didn't tell you?
• 1:35:15
  That's the reason that they gave you all the bad committee
• 1:35:16
  assignments. That would be unfair.
• 1:35:18
  Yeah, it's. Interesting.
• 1:35:19
  I'm just saying. It's the one point, isn't it?
• 1:35:21
  And you may find it funny because you pass as a white
• 1:35:24
  Anglo Christian. Do you think I pass?
• 1:35:26
  What, you think I pass as a white Anglo Christian?
• 1:35:27
  Well, I I not only think you. Pass yes.
• 1:35:29
  The answer is yes, so say yes. I think you identify as it.
• 1:35:31
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:35:33
  Let's go. Yeah, no, but really, for real.
• 1:35:36
  My point is that I heard you do an interview, OK.
• 1:35:39
  And I literally on the right up here is like you were talking
• 1:35:41
  about how you were raised on like Mark Levin in high school.
• 1:35:46
  And the thing that you like the most about Mark Levin is how
• 1:35:49
  cruel he was to the callers. I don't see, I don't get that.
• 1:35:53
  I like the joke about the cookies.
• 1:35:55
  That's crazy. It may be a joke and it may be
• 1:35:56
  edge lording and you may not really mean it, but you got to
• 1:35:58
  realize the cruelty to it. And without going like, oh,
• 1:36:01
  like, well. He probably did like that, and I
• 1:36:02
  think that he liked the meanness people probably mean to him.
• 1:36:05
  So he liked that gravity, people who are mean to other people,
• 1:36:07
  that's this whole thing. You know, when when, like, you
• 1:36:09
  know, people got to stop crying about the past.
• 1:36:12
  And that's The thing is that I think that you have such an
• 1:36:14
  opportunity to talk to a generation of disaffected,
• 1:36:16
  angry, legitimately angry people in a way in which is is positive
• 1:36:21
  without having to do that shit. And by the way, and I'm not
• 1:36:23
  holding you responsible for like, you know, the end of, of,
• 1:36:25
  of, you know, my conception of Western civilization, which is
• 1:36:29
  different than yours. But I just don't get it.
• 1:36:31
  I don't get why you find the cruelty.
• 1:36:33
  And I think that, by the way, I think that that's why you like
• 1:36:35
  Trump. I mean, this is making, you
• 1:36:36
  know, like a a very unfair leap because his.
• 1:36:39
  Why are you saying you're making an unfair leap?
• 1:36:41
  So I guess why you like Trump, that is, that is that is your
• 1:36:43
  right. That is why he likes Trump,
• 1:36:45
  because Trump is a Dick head. That's it.
• 1:36:48
  A lot of the people who like Trump are just because they're
• 1:36:50
  fucking assholes. There's some people who like
• 1:36:52
  Trump because they think his policies are good even though he
• 1:36:54
  literally has never spelled out a policy.
• 1:36:56
  But they're all old and stupid and don't understand anything,
• 1:37:00
  which is a problem. It's like old stupid people will
• 1:37:02
  hear Trump. They're like, we're going to do,
• 1:37:03
  we're to bring jobs back. And they're like, that's a
• 1:37:04
  policy. He'll even explain.
• 1:37:07
  He's just going to do a bunch of tariffs.
• 1:37:08
  And Yep. But like when they hear
• 1:37:10
  something more complex, like, Hey, we're going to pressure
• 1:37:12
  specifically China with tariffs because they do unfair this or
• 1:37:15
  we do this or that, they also go, OK, they don't get it.
• 1:37:18
  It's it's the thing about Trump is that like he he he babies
• 1:37:22
  things down, he Jingle and keys things down for them.
• 1:37:24
  Like to a fucking moron could understand it.
• 1:37:26
  Now he's not actually boiling down a complex concept that's
• 1:37:30
  like effective into something very simple in Lehman Sterns for
• 1:37:32
  people. He's just saying dumb shit
• 1:37:34
  that's not real and then he's ruining the country.
• 1:37:37
  But like old people are like, yeah, yeah, this makes so much
• 1:37:39
  sense to me. I'm fucking really stupid.
• 1:37:41
  I'm a really dumb person that doesn't understand the
• 1:37:43
  complexities of like anything. Like I don't get it.
• 1:37:49
  His first instinct. These are the These are the
• 1:37:50
  types of people who like peeked at the, you know, the
• 1:37:53
  mitochondria is the powerhouse of a cell and they couldn't
• 1:37:55
  really understand anything else outside of that.
• 1:37:57
  Is cruelty. His first instinct is to find
• 1:38:00
  the fault in the other about everything.
• 1:38:02
  By the way, it's not his fault that that we're in war with
• 1:38:05
  Iran, that he's ended 38 times and you know.
• 1:38:07
  I ain't running. And start at 39.
• 1:38:09
  It's not his fault that inflation size, it's not his
• 1:38:11
  fault that the wall didn't get built.
• 1:38:13
  It's not his fault that ice is killing people on the streets in
• 1:38:16
  in these places. Is it the cruelty of it?
• 1:38:18
  Maybe it's generational thing. I got friends who are Jewish.
• 1:38:21
  They're going to be really, really fucking pissed off that
• 1:38:23
  I'm sitting next to you. And what do I tell them?
• 1:38:24
  What do I tell them? Why it's OK you.
• 1:38:26
  Just said that you're kind of sitting like across the room,
• 1:38:28
  you know what I mean? For me to sit and have this
• 1:38:30
  conversation with you. I guess I just have such a
• 1:38:32
  different opinion of that, you know, why?
• 1:38:34
  Why should we have to explain ourselves to talk to anybody?
• 1:38:36
  And why is it that saying the wrong words or making a
• 1:38:38
  particular joke makes it so the Jewish person wouldn't want to
• 1:38:41
  watch my show? I have a lot of Jew.
• 1:38:43
  Because they found a joke offensive.
• 1:38:44
  But what? Bush fans, I mean, some of my
• 1:38:45
  best friends are Jewish. I've had Jewish employees and
• 1:38:48
  they recognize that, you know, just because I'm not necessarily
• 1:38:51
  nice all the time doesn't mean I'm hateful, doesn't mean I
• 1:38:53
  don't. Even well, I mean, you're this
• 1:38:55
  is The thing is like you're a pick me, you're a you're a
• 1:38:57
  Hispanic pick me person for white supremacy.
• 1:38:59
  So like, yeah, you finding other pick me's across demographics
• 1:39:03
  doesn't exactly surprise me at all, but OK, yeah, cool.
• 1:39:06
  Even think they see it as cruel, I think they see it as it's a
• 1:39:09
  little rough around the edges. And I maybe that's the
• 1:39:11
  difference is I guess it's just attributing this weight to
• 1:39:13
  something that be considered a joke and maybe doesn't have.
• 1:39:16
  Yo Papa Fuentes gives insight into how Trump got a whole lot
• 1:39:19
  of the young. The youth vote in 20/16/2020.
• 1:39:22
  What is he going to say? TikTok was too woke?
• 1:39:25
  Do you want to know why? Like he got a bunch of the youth
• 1:39:29
  because there was a bunch of white people have a fucking
• 1:39:31
  victim complex and they wanted their own victim complex, right?
• 1:39:35
  Like this is the thing. If you were if you were any
• 1:39:37
  minority online, you got a victim complex.
• 1:39:40
  You know, it was some of it was valid.
• 1:39:42
  Let's be real, there is systemic oppression versus different
• 1:39:44
  groups. But white people didn't get it.
• 1:39:46
  And white people got really upset by not getting their own
• 1:39:49
  victim complex. So then they created one called
• 1:39:52
  white people are being bullied because they can't say racial
• 1:39:56
  slurs. That's it.
• 1:40:00
  That's it. It is as simple as that.
• 1:40:02
  So there's nothing insightful about like, oh, why did he get a
• 1:40:04
  bunch of the young? It's a bunch of young white
• 1:40:06
  people being fucking stupid and being upset that there aren't
• 1:40:09
  like gay little online clubs for you to be white specifically and
• 1:40:12
  and talk about how much of A victim you are.
• 1:40:14
  The only difference is all the other groups actually have like
• 1:40:17
  a valid reasons. And then after a bunch of all
• 1:40:19
  the white people with their bullshit white victim complex
• 1:40:22
  got into office, they started victimizing every other group,
• 1:40:26
  peeling back rights for everybody.
• 1:40:29
  Trans people can't even be in the military anymore.
• 1:40:31
  Women can't get abortions anymore.
• 1:40:33
  They're not stopping there. That's definitely a huge part of
• 1:40:37
  it. There's more than that.
• 1:40:37
  There's not more than that. There really isn't more than
• 1:40:40
  that. In general, people can't find
• 1:40:42
  jobs, and Trump is part of that infrastructure.
• 1:40:44
  And they got like they, for some reason, things Trump isn't.
• 1:40:48
  That's really all it is. It's really not like a whole lot
• 1:40:50
  else. It's not that complicated.
• 1:40:52
  Have a cool intention behind it. Like, you know, Mark Levin, you
• 1:40:54
  got to remember, at the end of the day, it's an entertainment
• 1:40:56
  show. It's entertainment people call
• 1:40:57
  in, he gets frustrated with them.
• 1:40:58
  It's part of what I do on my show.
• 1:41:00
  And it's not always nice, but it's funny.
• 1:41:01
  And I don't think it's mean spirited necessarily.
• 1:41:03
  And I don't think it's that big of a deal.
• 1:41:05
  So I mean, the the thought that I would like, for example, with
• 1:41:07
  you, people would say, why do you talk to Hunter Biden?
• 1:41:09
  His father and his DOJ froze your money and put you on a no
• 1:41:12
  fly list? I'd say.
• 1:41:13
  So what I mean, it's just talking.
• 1:41:15
  I don't think talking is a big deal, you know?
• 1:41:17
  Froze my money, put me on a no fly list too there.
• 1:41:19
  You go see. So we got that in common, so.
• 1:41:20
  Different question that I have that kind of weaves everything
• 1:41:22
  together. Well I mean, Biden didn't
• 1:41:24
  control his DOJ, Trump actively tries to, so it's probably a
• 1:41:27
  difference there. How do you think like October
• 1:41:28
  7th and the subsequent Like Pro Palestine movement in the online
• 1:41:31
  worlds it created led to a growing audience on the right?
• 1:41:34
  October 7th in particular, Well, I think it it highlighted and
• 1:41:37
  brought to the forefront how captured the right wing is by
• 1:41:39
  Israel, which is very unique, I think the Democrats and the
• 1:41:41
  Republican. Because of religion.
• 1:41:43
  Right. And they're pro Israel.
• 1:41:44
  But the Republican Party has this inextricable institutional
• 1:41:47
  connection with the Israel, the lobby, with this like food
• 1:41:49
  government in particular. And I think people just started
• 1:41:51
  to see the hypocrisies. The hypocrisy was brought to the
• 1:41:53
  forefront, which is America first, but not with Israel.
• 1:41:56
  No new wars except for with Iran.
• 1:41:58
  Under Trump, we will have no more wars, no more wars, no more
• 1:42:01
  wars, they said he will start a war.
• 1:42:03
  I'm not going to start. I'm going to stop wars tonight.
• 1:42:05
  Iran's Navy is gone. You know we're going to be
• 1:42:07
  racist and all these things, but don't you dare be anti-Semitic.
• 1:42:10
  Don't even, you know, think about it.
• 1:42:11
  I see good things about Hitler. Also, every human being has
• 1:42:14
  something of value that they brought to the table.
• 1:42:16
  That's that's crazy. Especially Hitler, That's
• 1:42:18
  insane. So I think that on the.
• 1:42:20
  He's got a good point though. There is like there are two
• 1:42:22
  factions of conservatives right now.
• 1:42:24
  It's a racist conservatives and racist conservatives that don't
• 1:42:27
  hate Jews. That's literally those are the
• 1:42:29
  two factions. That's it.
• 1:42:32
  Right wing. It made it unignorable that
• 1:42:34
  there's this ideological institutional capture.
• 1:42:36
  I just feel like a lot of straightforward.
• 1:42:38
  Yes but like what? This is the problem is like he's
• 1:42:40
  cowering away. What ideology makes religious
• 1:42:44
  conservative Christians love Israel so much?
• 1:42:48
  It's the fucking Bible. This is the problem.
• 1:42:52
  And this is every single time that like Nick Fuentes has
• 1:42:55
  conversations is he gets right up to the point and then he just
• 1:42:58
  walks away from it. And that's intentional.
• 1:43:00
  He like leads us to like, why is there a problem here?
• 1:43:04
  Oh, right. Like and then he does this thing
• 1:43:06
  where he just like walks right away from it.
• 1:43:08
  In this instance, the reason why Israel has so much capture and
• 1:43:11
  part of it is because it's a foothold in the Middle East for
• 1:43:14
  America to have like a Western foothold.
• 1:43:17
  But it's because of the fucking Bible.
• 1:43:19
  Because in the Bible it says that Israel is made of actual
• 1:43:22
  magic moon sand, that if you're Jewish, you get it's your, it's
• 1:43:26
  your place. But he can't say that because
• 1:43:29
  then it goes against his shit. It goes.
• 1:43:31
  It makes him look bad because that's how he pretends to
• 1:43:34
  centralized his entire world view.
• 1:43:36
  Like just anti semite influencers, we're taking
• 1:43:38
  advantage of the postdoc October 7th discourse to push other
• 1:43:41
  ideas, broader ideas about Jewish people as a whole.
• 1:43:43
  Come out and say, like, I think that Jews are causing a
• 1:43:45
  disproportionate amount of problems in the United States.
• 1:43:48
  Well, I mean, I think it's hard to ignore some of those other
• 1:43:51
  conversations. I know that it's it's now become
• 1:43:54
  maybe invoked to say that the Israel issue is very narrow.
• 1:43:58
  It's just Netanyahu, it's just the Likudnix, it's just the
• 1:44:00
  Israel lobby. But you know, what would you say
• 1:44:02
  about someone like Larry Ellison?
• 1:44:04
  I mean, somebody like that, I don't think fits neatly into
• 1:44:06
  this, let's say, problem of Netanyahu.
• 1:44:08
  As far as installing Barry Weiss and whatnot, gotcha gotcha.
• 1:44:10
  Larry Ellison, isn't he the one that like has some kind of Larry
• 1:44:14
  Ellison big talk? It's so funny that he brings to
• 1:44:17
  Larry Ellison because he's got a major stake in Tik Tok's U.S.
• 1:44:22
  business. Yes, yes, yes, and he's very pro
• 1:44:25
  Israel. One of the things that does
• 1:44:28
  drive me nuts and it ends up like having a positive impact,
• 1:44:31
  like I guess on Nick in the way that I'm having a conversation
• 1:44:33
  with this is that if you talk about certain people, whether
• 1:44:35
  even if you're criticizing them on TikTok, you get banned.
• 1:44:37
  I just got banned on TikTok. I had almost a million
• 1:44:39
  followers. Again, you want to know why all
• 1:44:41
  my stuff was because I criticized I Andrew Tate and
• 1:44:44
  Nick Fuentes. And I don't think that they're
• 1:44:45
  protecting Andrew Tate or Nick Fuentes, but I think that for
• 1:44:49
  them, they don't want any mention of Andrew, Nick Tate or
• 1:44:53
  Nick Fuentes on their platform or else they weren't going to
• 1:44:55
  like, they're going to take you down.
• 1:45:00
  And like, that's what ended up happening.
• 1:45:02
  All my, all my, my infractions were furred.
• 1:45:04
  And some of these videos were months old and they decided to
• 1:45:07
  make this hard line like, we're not going to let this go
• 1:45:09
  anymore. So I guess it hit the algorithm
• 1:45:11
  again. It's like auto band.
• 1:45:12
  And so it's like, oh, there goes my TikTok that I spent years
• 1:45:15
  building that was like a considerable amount of my like,
• 1:45:18
  there's a good amount of money in there, you know, which is
• 1:45:21
  probably one of the reasons why I'm very frustrated lately, you
• 1:45:26
  know, because it's a big hit. It's tough, you know what I
• 1:45:28
  mean? It's a tough, it's a tough hit
• 1:45:29
  to, to deal with, You know, when you're trying to run, you know,
• 1:45:32
  on this to some degree is like some kind of a business when
• 1:45:34
  you're trying to run like a small business and you get
• 1:45:36
  completely like you get, you lose 3,000,000 eyes on you a
• 1:45:39
  week and you lose thousands of dollars.
• 1:45:43
  That's it. And it's like, wow, this is
• 1:45:44
  fucking brutal, man. It's brutal.
• 1:45:48
  So, you know, especially at this time right now where like, I'm,
• 1:45:54
  I'm fucking my wife's pregnant dude, you know, and it's already
• 1:45:57
  in general, like being a content creator is like really easy
• 1:45:59
  making the content, but it's like really tough to stay
• 1:46:01
  afloat. And so like, it's just like
• 1:46:04
  fucking, you know, it's, it's 10 different, it's 10 different
• 1:46:07
  directions of stress dealing with this fucking fuck ass
• 1:46:11
  bullshit, you know, but I mean, it is what it is.
• 1:46:13
  What are you going to do? But you know, it's fucking
• 1:46:17
  annoying. It's frustrating.
• 1:46:18
  What are you going to do? Fucking crazy.
• 1:46:22
  Because this is somebody who's not Israeli, he's not even a
• 1:46:25
  religious Jew, but he's ethnically Jewish and has this
• 1:46:27
  deep affinity for the state of Israel.
• 1:46:29
  You know, I feel a deep, a deep emotional connection to the
• 1:46:32
  state of Israel and the Israeli people.
• 1:46:34
  And is using and mobilizing his power and resources and
• 1:46:36
  connections to benefit Israel in the private sector.
• 1:46:39
  And so if you were to say what's a law that we could pass to
• 1:46:41
  prevent that kind of influence, what would it look like?
• 1:46:43
  He's an American citizen. He can't buy a media company and
• 1:46:46
  hire Barry Weiss to run CBS News.
• 1:46:48
  And yet we recognize that's a big.
• 1:46:49
  Problem I just feel the conflation of like anti Zionism
• 1:46:51
  and like Holocaust denial played into the hands of the Israeli
• 1:46:53
  propaganda apparatus because then they can say hey look these
• 1:46:56
  people that oppose what we're doing in Palestine also don't
• 1:46:58
  think the Holocaust happened for it's a big.
• 1:46:59
  I mean, Nick has to agree with that because he says that the
• 1:47:01
  reason why he's so far right is because they were so people were
• 1:47:05
  so mean to him or something before.
• 1:47:07
  So that would be kind of the same thing.
• 1:47:08
  It's like, oh, the reason Israel's so far, I mean right is
• 1:47:12
  because at least like socially in some instances, but in this
• 1:47:15
  instance, like so far right, because, you know, people were
• 1:47:18
  mean to them and they were, you know, they're denying their
• 1:47:20
  trauma so. Jump in in the public
• 1:47:22
  perception. It was almost to me as if that
• 1:47:24
  was your intent to to lose any legitimacy about any argument as
• 1:47:27
  it relates to Israel and the Likud government is to say that
• 1:47:30
  those edge learning things or whatever.
• 1:47:32
  Jews are money changers, bulleted artists, psychopaths,
• 1:47:36
  charlatans, grifters, manipulators.
• 1:47:38
  I don't know anybody that can hear you after you say that,
• 1:47:41
  including myself. It delegitimizes everything
• 1:47:45
  because I don't think that you that was.
• 1:47:48
  Crazy. Relates to Israel and the Likud
• 1:47:51
  government is to say that those edge lording things or whatever.
• 1:47:54
  Jews are money changers, artists, psychopaths,
• 1:47:58
  charlatans, grifters, manipulators.
• 1:48:00
  I don't. I've ever seen that explicit of
• 1:48:02
  a clip of Jesus Christ? Yeah, more.
• 1:48:03
  Compassionate. Let's try to.
• 1:48:04
  Stay a little, I don't want to do any character attacks on
• 1:48:06
  Nick. I'm not attacking his character.
• 1:48:07
  I'm not attacking. I'm saying what I promise you.
• 1:48:09
  As far as compact I, I'm more just mean straightforward.
• 1:48:12
  Do you feel like the rise in anti-Semitic online influencers
• 1:48:14
  post October 7th has given Israel more ammunition to work
• 1:48:17
  with in terms of casting? Everyone who opposes what
• 1:48:18
  they're doing is just like a rabbage.
• 1:48:20
  In some cases, yeah. In some cases, sure.
• 1:48:22
  But I also think that's overstated because I think that,
• 1:48:24
  you know, look, let's just be honest, the I do believe the
• 1:48:27
  political left wants to make the Israel issue very narrow.
• 1:48:30
  And they want to say that the issue is this genocide in
• 1:48:31
  Palestine. And on some level, they think
• 1:48:33
  that the Israeli government is racist.
• 1:48:36
  Being bang pig, you being bloodthirsty, violent pig, whoa
• 1:48:40
  dog and. That's the problem.
• 1:48:42
  And I think that that ignores that there is a broader
• 1:48:44
  conversation and it does have to do with the Holocaust and it
• 1:48:46
  does have to do with Jews as such and and Jewish nationalism
• 1:48:50
  and Jewish identity. So to to try to shoehorn it in
• 1:48:53
  and say, well, if anybody goes further than this very narrow
• 1:48:55
  critique of Israel, well, they're actually helping Israel.
• 1:48:57
  I don't agree with that. I think we have to unpack the
• 1:48:59
  whole conversation. Well, do you care a lot about?
• 1:49:00
  He doesn't, though, again, like, this is this is the problem is
• 1:49:03
  Nick does not want to unpack the whole conversation.
• 1:49:05
  He wants to stop shy of the real problem here, right?
• 1:49:08
  Because, yeah, again, Israel does have, they do have a lot of
• 1:49:11
  influence. Absolutely.
• 1:49:13
  And then we have to ask, like, why that is.
• 1:49:15
  And there's two big reasons why. And there's always two big
• 1:49:17
  reasons why reason #1 again, is because they have a foothold in
• 1:49:22
  the Middle East, and it's a Western foothold.
• 1:49:24
  Reason number reason #2 is because of religion.
• 1:49:28
  Christians think that Israel belongs to Jews at any cost and
• 1:49:33
  will endlessly and infinitely support them at any cost.
• 1:49:38
  Nick Fuentes is Christian. He's the problem.
• 1:49:45
  Nick doesn't want to get to the root of the problem.
• 1:49:48
  Nick wants to just say Jews are bad.
• 1:49:50
  That's it. Because if you really wanted to
• 1:49:52
  get to it, he'd be like, yeah, this is bad.
• 1:49:55
  But like, no, his ideology, that I guess the one he pretends to
• 1:49:58
  have, would be considered a part of the problem here.
• 1:50:03
  No. Yeah.
• 1:50:08
  The answer's yes. The answer's yes.
• 1:50:09
  Just to be clear. Yeah.
• 1:50:11
  Like his ideology's part of the problem.
• 1:50:13
  That's part of the whole entire issue.
• 1:50:16
  So, you know, keep that in mind then.
• 1:50:20
  But he doesn't want to get, he doesn't want to get into the
• 1:50:22
  weeds of it. About Palestinians.
• 1:50:24
  Not more than I care about anybody else.
• 1:50:26
  So I guess that would be why they would be like, OK, you're
• 1:50:28
  just taking advantage of this discourse.
• 1:50:29
  I don't think it's taking advantage.
• 1:50:30
  I think that we can sympathize with the Palestinians while also
• 1:50:33
  realizing. He doesn't care about
• 1:50:34
  Palestinian. People that, you know, look, I'm
• 1:50:35
  an American and so it's a tragedy what's happening in
• 1:50:37
  Palestine, but there's tragedies happening all over the world.
• 1:50:40
  My problem is that Israel has this influence over our
• 1:50:42
  government. I'm a newcomer to politics, but
• 1:50:44
  not to backing the Jewish state. And we're paying for the
• 1:50:47
  genocide and we're furnishing them with the weapons to commit
• 1:50:49
  the genocide. And by the way, America is going
• 1:50:51
  to be held liable for this genocide morally, but also
• 1:50:54
  politically and diplomatically and otherwise.
• 1:50:56
  But I think the people on the left may they may be guilty of
• 1:50:58
  maybe caring more about Palestine than they do about
• 1:50:59
  America. Nick, but the left.
• 1:51:01
  It's funny considering people like Nick Fun doesn't want to
• 1:51:04
  destroy America and everything it's like has originally stood
• 1:51:07
  for, so I think that that's very silly and funny.
• 1:51:09
  Didn't cancel you. The right cancelled you first.
• 1:51:11
  The right cancelled you first and and Ben Shapiro and the
• 1:51:15
  Daily Wire and that was those were the people to cancel.
• 1:51:18
  They may have utilized the tools of the left.
• 1:51:20
  I mean, why did they cancel it? Why did?
• 1:51:21
  Why did? Why did?
• 1:51:23
  Why did the Daily Water not want to associate with Nick Fund as a
• 1:51:25
  guy who hates you? Who the fuck could possibly
• 1:51:27
  know? So what you call the left to be
• 1:51:29
  able to do that, but it was the right that cancelled you.
• 1:51:31
  And by the way, I would consider a radical right.
• 1:51:33
  The Daily Wire to me is is a is a radical right.
• 1:51:35
  I, I don't think they're even the reaction.
• 1:51:37
  I don't think they're that conservative at all.
• 1:51:38
  Ben Shapiro, I mean, he's not like he's in. 2016 In 2016, they
• 1:51:43
  were they were all right, no. They were not.
• 1:51:45
  Ben Shapiro and the Daily Wire weren't.
• 1:51:46
  They were to the right of Mitt Romney.
• 1:51:48
  You know what I mean? That's what I mean, and that's
• 1:51:49
  more. Conservatives.
• 1:51:50
  Yeah, my. Question is, that's who you were
• 1:51:52
  cancelled by. That was also cancelled by the
• 1:51:53
  left. No, I know they came along.
• 1:51:55
  They came along because some of the more egregious things that
• 1:51:57
  you said that you said is edge lording.
• 1:51:59
  They came along and whether you call it cancelling or saying
• 1:52:01
  like what the fuck? This is what I call it.
• 1:52:03
  What the fuck? Really cool, you know, like what
• 1:52:05
  the fuck you know. And so like, I don't find it
• 1:52:07
  funny. And just like you're able to
• 1:52:08
  say, well, I just think it's funny.
• 1:52:10
  I'm able to say I don't find it fucking funny.
• 1:52:11
  I don't find I didn't find it funny then.
• 1:52:13
  I don't find it funny now. I didn't find it funny that some
• 1:52:15
  of the things that, you know, you said about me.
• 1:52:17
  But I'm I'm willing to sit here and and and listen to to you
• 1:52:20
  because I want to get to this. And this is my whole point.
• 1:52:22
  What about fucking Donald Trump? Yeah, we can get to that.
• 1:52:25
  How did you get how of all the people in the world, but you
• 1:52:28
  could look at and say he doesn't believe anything so for.
• 1:52:31
  Context for the viewer, Donald Trump is currently the sitting
• 1:52:33
  president of the US. For our audience abroad, well,
• 1:52:35
  that's really The war with Iran was supposed to be over.
• 1:52:37
  Now we're back in business. Baby Khomeini had a pretty sick
• 1:52:39
  funeral. If you saw the video.
• 1:52:40
  So you guys don't like Trump? You used to like him.
• 1:52:43
  I did. You've always hated him.
• 1:52:44
  He's tried to destroy your life. Yeah.
• 1:52:46
  You guys were cool. You guys hung out once at Mar a
• 1:52:47
  Lago with Kanye. I forgot about that.
• 1:52:50
  They did. He did do that, true.
• 1:52:52
  You've never hung out with Trump, right?
• 1:52:55
  Would you want to? No.
• 1:52:56
  Do I want to Yeah, I look man. I I would I like.
• 1:52:58
  Can we get him? Can we get him in the hotel?
• 1:53:00
  So once you. Get him in that.
• 1:53:01
  Once you imagine he's in the motel with us, yeah, that's
• 1:53:03
  Trump. Imagine he's in the motel with
• 1:53:04
  us, all right, He's not going to go there unless you have any
• 1:53:06
  kids there, Nick. He looks young, but I don't
• 1:53:08
  think he looks young enough for Trump throwing a rape so.
• 1:53:09
  What do you want to? How about what do you want to
• 1:53:11
  ask him? You know, put me on the spot.
• 1:53:14
  I don't want to ask Donald Trump anything because I know and I,
• 1:53:18
  and I think you would agree with me, is that Donald Trump isn't
• 1:53:20
  going to give me any a, an authentic answer.
• 1:53:23
  Donald Trump? Never.
• 1:53:24
  Yeah, well, let's stick Fuentes as well, so.
• 1:53:27
  He gives what people refer to as being authentic, but it's not
• 1:53:31
  authentic. It's audacious.
• 1:53:32
  It's like the example that I give that is the best metaphor
• 1:53:34
  for this is that he says he's 63, weighs 225 lbs, and
• 1:53:37
  everybody laughs because that's a little bit like edge learning,
• 1:53:39
  right? Everybody knows that he is maybe
• 1:53:41
  6, maybe 6 feet and weighs maybe 300.
• 1:53:44
  This might not be the powerhouse example we're looking for, but I
• 1:53:47
  I understand the general sentiment.
• 1:53:48
  Sure, OK. 285. He's a big guy.
• 1:53:50
  He's a pretty big guy. Big.
• 1:53:51
  Guy. Pretty big guy.
• 1:53:52
  Pretty big Dick but some people say not me and never seen.
• 1:53:55
  It true of every picture ever taken of anyone that's 63.
• 1:53:58
  He's not 63. I am OK.
• 1:54:00
  Yeah, I know you are. Thank you.
• 1:54:01
  Me. Too.
• 1:54:02
  I'm 64. Six 2 1/2 maybe.
• 1:54:05
  But my point is, is that the reason I don't have a question
• 1:54:07
  for him is because I'm absolutely certain that he's not
• 1:54:09
  going to give me an authentic answer.
• 1:54:11
  Look, he came into the Oval Office with my in the transition
• 1:54:14
  this time and he told my dad that he thought that he did an
• 1:54:16
  amazing job. He did an amazing job with the
• 1:54:18
  economy. He did an amazing job that with
• 1:54:20
  NATO, he did an amazing job and that he got a raw deal from his
• 1:54:23
  side and anything he he can do, particularly for Hunter, Hunter
• 1:54:25
  got screwed. Whatever I can do, you let me
• 1:54:27
  know. Bullshit.
• 1:54:28
  He then went out and he has now, since then, done nothing but
• 1:54:31
  blame Joe Biden for every single one of his problems.
• 1:54:34
  Well, I mean, it's surprising that you guys would believe that
• 1:54:37
  considering he ran out. He was like he was running for
• 1:54:39
  president even during Joe Biden's campaign, but OK.
• 1:54:42
  Seven months ago, I inherited a mess.
• 1:54:44
  Joe Biden handed us handed us over a country that was in very
• 1:54:48
  serious trouble. Biden is a horrible, and I
• 1:54:51
  really mean this, I think the good parts of the Trump economy
• 1:54:53
  and the bad parts of the Biden economy.
• 1:54:55
  Sorry, convenient. Yes.
• 1:54:59
  He mentioned my dad's name or my family's name 6 times a day in
• 1:55:03
  the 1st 100 days of of this administration. 6 times a day.
• 1:55:06
  He does it maybe four times a day now because he, that's
• 1:55:09
  crazy. He has no answers.
• 1:55:10
  All he has is a finger to point and that's all he does.
• 1:55:13
  I don't know what to ask him, you know?
• 1:55:16
  Why are you such a Dick? What does your dad think about
• 1:55:20
  right? But I don't, I'm not going to
• 1:55:22
  get into what my dad thinks about the war.
• 1:55:24
  Is it really because I don't want like, I don't want to get
• 1:55:26
  into I, I don't put words in my dad's mouth.
• 1:55:28
  Just like I wouldn't ask you what your dad thinks about the
• 1:55:30
  war. But your dad wasn't the
• 1:55:31
  president of the United. States, which is what's?
• 1:55:33
  Going on look I all I can say is this is that every.
• 1:55:37
  It's fair that he doesn't want to rope his dad in.
• 1:55:39
  I don't think his dad wants any more headlines about him so.
• 1:55:41
  A single Israeli Prime Minister since Jimmy, at least Jimmy
• 1:55:46
  Carter was president, has walked into the Oval Office or picked
• 1:55:48
  up the phone and called the president and said we have to
• 1:55:50
  attack Iran. And every single one of them has
• 1:55:53
  said no. And they may not all have had
• 1:55:54
  the same exact reason, but one of the reasons they did is
• 1:55:56
  because they knew what the consequences would be as it
• 1:55:58
  relates to the lifeblood of the economy, his petroleum, the
• 1:56:00
  states of hormones. Every single one of them knew
• 1:56:01
  that. And every single one of them
• 1:56:03
  knew that there is no way unless you send in ground forces to be
• 1:56:06
  to to end with certainty the nuclear program that the
• 1:56:10
  Iranians have supposedly been building.
• 1:56:12
  Every single one of them knew that the existing Ayato I told
• 1:56:16
  at that time had put out a fatwa, an edict saying that they
• 1:56:19
  would never turn their nuclear technology into a bomb.
• 1:56:22
  The supreme leader of Iran issued fatwa.
• 1:56:25
  Having nuclear weapons is forbidden, is Haram, which means
• 1:56:29
  never. We can.
• 1:56:30
  Well, you know, religious people, they always listen to,
• 1:56:32
  they always tell the truth. And have nuclear weapons.
• 1:56:35
  It was a religious edict as strong as if the Pope had
• 1:56:38
  released an encyclical. But what did he do?
• 1:56:41
  He kills the Ayatollah. We we get a son that now has a
• 1:56:44
  far more radical and far greater ties to the the IRGC.
• 1:56:48
  And what do we have? The straits are moves are still
• 1:56:50
  close. He's he, he said that they're
• 1:56:51
  brilliant people. I find that's Donald Trump on
• 1:56:54
  everything. He said he'd end the war in
• 1:56:55
  Ukraine on day one. That is a war that's dying to be
• 1:56:58
  settled. I will get it settled before I
• 1:57:00
  even become president. He also said that like somehow
• 1:57:03
  Ukraine started the war. That was just incredible.
• 1:57:05
  I. Didn't hear anybody on the right
• 1:57:06
  or and say that's just bullshit. There's, it's just bullshit, he
• 1:57:10
  said. Well, no, because they'll say
• 1:57:12
  like, oh, he's a good businessman.
• 1:57:13
  He says exaggeratory stuff and then he gets he gets his way.
• 1:57:16
  It's like, well, you know, here's the problem is Donald
• 1:57:18
  Trump probably did do that in the historically, but you can't
• 1:57:20
  just fucking rape people all the time.
• 1:57:23
  I mean, he's been trying to through tariffs and trying to
• 1:57:25
  take over the countries, but it doesn't.
• 1:57:26
  You can't just do whatever you want.
• 1:57:28
  That's the thing with Trump is like, he's just somebody who
• 1:57:29
  will bulldoze in and like constantly violate boundaries.
• 1:57:32
  That's the kind of person he is. He's a rapist.
• 1:57:35
  But you can't just do that. You know, when it comes down to
• 1:57:37
  the presidency, that's why he couldn't just end things because
• 1:57:40
  he said so. You know, you can't just you
• 1:57:42
  can't just do it. He would build a just invite
• 1:57:44
  people over for some beanie weenies and be like, yeah, let's
• 1:57:47
  settle this problem. Well, I don't believe in
• 1:57:48
  building the wall, but everybody said that's bullshit.
• 1:57:50
  And then when he got into office, the corruption, the
• 1:57:52
  level of the corruption. Thank God he didn't build the
• 1:57:55
  wall. He he fucked up the he fucked up
• 1:57:56
  the pool so bad with that shitty contract he gave some guy that
• 1:57:59
  fucked it up. Imagine building the wall.
• 1:58:01
  I think we should have allowed to build a wall.
• 1:58:03
  It would have been fallen over and everything.
• 1:58:04
  It would have been hilarious. Honestly, not being able to
• 1:58:06
  build the wall is probably the best thing that ever happened to
• 1:58:08
  Trump's presidency. Imagine he was able to build it
• 1:58:10
  and it was just a fucking shit show.
• 1:58:11
  I mean, people believed, were led to believe that there was
• 1:58:15
  this thing called the Biden crime family, right?
• 1:58:17
  I know that, you know, is that I didn't do a single piece of
• 1:58:19
  business when my dad was president.
• 1:58:20
  I made basically $200,000 a year selling paintings.
• 1:58:22
  I picked the thing that was the furthest possible thing away
• 1:58:25
  from from, from politics that I possibly could.
• 1:58:28
  Don and Eric have done over $1.3 billion in contracts, just in
• 1:58:32
  contracts for underlying companies that they have an
• 1:58:34
  ownership stake in with the Department of Defense.
• 1:58:36
  That's so surprising. Trump's such a nice guy, I never
• 1:58:38
  would expect him to do some fucked up shit like that.
• 1:58:39
  What the hell? Don Junior got the largest loan
• 1:58:41
  ever given by the Department of Defense of a company that he
• 1:58:44
  bought into like 3 months before they get the loan because.
• 1:58:47
  Are you guys saying that this guy's corrupt?
• 1:58:49
  What the fuck is happening right now?
• 1:58:51
  Are we saying? Are we seriously saying that?
• 1:58:52
  The what the hell? Peter Navarro picked up the
• 1:58:55
  phone and called DoD. No, Trump was actually a
• 1:58:58
  horrible businessman, to be honest with you.
• 1:58:59
  Like, yeah, no, he he had, he got bailed out by Russia like
• 1:59:01
  multiple times before he fucking even got to this point.
• 1:59:04
  So get it done. My point is I don't have
• 1:59:06
  anything productive to say to him that I know of.
• 1:59:09
  And when I listen to you and I listen to what you do is my
• 1:59:12
  question is, is how did you not see that before he was a
• 1:59:15
  disaster in 2020? A.
• 1:59:17
  Whoa, cocked wearing a mask. Holy as fuck.
• 1:59:19
  Plead and utter disaster. Is it related to what he did
• 1:59:21
  with Covet? Right.
• 1:59:22
  Regardless of whether you think we're supposed to be wearing a
• 1:59:23
  mask or not. The question for Nick is how did
• 1:59:25
  you not realize six years ago that Trump would be this?
• 1:59:27
  Sort of let down because he doesn't hold, you know, he
• 1:59:29
  there's no ideological core Donald Trump, no.
• 1:59:32
  I agree with you. Well, you got to realize in 2016
• 1:59:34
  where Republicans were at, we had John McCain, we had Mitt
• 1:59:36
  Romney, and the perception on the right is that they were
• 1:59:39
  insufficiently conservative and that they were losers.
• 1:59:42
  All they do is lose because they don't fight.
• 1:59:43
  There was this perception that the Democrats are ruthless
• 1:59:46
  fighters. Obama crushed in 2008, crushed
• 1:59:49
  when we thought he really should have lost in 2012.
• 1:59:51
  That was a Republican perception that Romney let us down.
• 1:59:53
  And so when Trump came on the scene in 2016, it was new.
• 1:59:56
  It's refreshing. He seemed like somebody that was
• 1:59:58
  really going to take on not just the Democrats, but also the
• 2:00:00
  media on our behalf. And what's more, you got to
• 2:00:02
  think about the mood of the moment in 16 as well, and the
• 2:00:04
  message Trump was giving. Trump said in 16.
• 2:00:07
  It's just me and my son and my wife.
• 2:00:09
  We don't have any donors. We don't have any special
• 2:00:11
  interests. More than $100 million put in of
• 2:00:13
  my money, meaning I'm not taking all of this big money from all
• 2:00:16
  of these different corporations like she's we're going.
• 2:00:17
  To put America first, make the country great again.
• 2:00:19
  This is a very appealing message and I talk all the time on my
• 2:00:22
  show about it and realizing now that it was obviously a scam and
• 2:00:24
  now obviously unfulfilled completely.
• 2:00:26
  And you're right, Trump is not ideological.
• 2:00:28
  The message was brilliant because it said one, The system
• 2:00:31
  is broken. America's not great anymore, but
• 2:00:33
  it used to be. We can make it great again, but
• 2:00:35
  in order to do it. That's what you were talking.
• 2:00:37
  What about? You keep telling me this is what
• 2:00:39
  you're talking about. What does that do with young
• 2:00:40
  people? You told me earlier that he's
• 2:00:42
  like, yeah, he's going to say something.
• 2:00:43
  Really. He's going to say something like
• 2:00:44
  really insightful about why young people are.
• 2:00:47
  But I already knew this answer. Yeah.
• 2:00:49
  Like, Trump won because he. He was something different.
• 2:00:52
  That's it. And he gave answers that were
• 2:00:54
  like, not positive or like, not what they were positive, but
• 2:00:56
  they weren't, like, going to ever happen or meaningful.
• 2:00:58
  Like I remember like Hillary got asked something about how we're
• 2:01:01
  going to keep like coal mining jobs here and she said we can
• 2:01:03
  and she was right. And I was honest, but like
• 2:01:05
  people don't want to hear that. Then Trump was like, no, we're
• 2:01:07
  going to, we're going to force it through.
• 2:01:11
  He he's trying to give an answer to like the, the job's going
• 2:01:13
  away. The answer wasn't correct.
• 2:01:14
  And he never like satisfied the promise, but like, that's the
• 2:01:17
  best he would tell. He would give people answers so.
• 2:01:21
  We need to actually bypass the system.
• 2:01:23
  Why is it that we never have victories?
• 2:01:25
  Why is it that things don't change because of money?
• 2:01:27
  He said. And that's why I'm different.
• 2:01:28
  I'm rich, I'm a billionaire. If I sell, fund my campaign and
• 2:01:31
  don't take super PAC money. Well, it's because of
• 2:01:33
  conservatives, not just because of money, like just to give
• 2:01:35
  money every Democratic with the last, however many Democratic
• 2:01:38
  presidents will come into a recession or Republican causes
• 2:01:40
  and they'll make things better, right?
• 2:01:42
  Like Trump constantly points to like Reagan, doesn't he?
• 2:01:45
  Reagan destroyed like unions in this country constantly
• 2:01:47
  destroyed like like airline unions.
• 2:01:50
  He destroyed unions that would build houses, which is why we
• 2:01:53
  have so many fucking illegal immigrants coming here doing
• 2:01:55
  those those jobs. It's again, what the fuck are we
• 2:01:58
  talking about here? Like conservative politics.
• 2:02:01
  I'm not saying Democrats are perfect, but they are.
• 2:02:03
  They've been much better for a very long time.
• 2:02:06
  And that's the problem is that a Democrat doesn't get to do
• 2:02:08
  anything. They come into office and they
• 2:02:09
  fix the problem of the Republican and the Republicans
• 2:02:11
  make things worse. That's what happens every single
• 2:02:14
  time. That's why Biden.
• 2:02:15
  Biden was voted into COVID because COVID happened.
• 2:02:17
  Trump didn't handle it particularly well.
• 2:02:19
  It was a disaster. That's why Obama was voted in
• 2:02:21
  after Bush because the different stock market crashed horribly
• 2:02:24
  and he came out. They both made turn the
• 2:02:26
  economies around. Then I won't have to listen to
• 2:02:29
  the lobby. Yeah, he told he was carries.
• 2:02:30
  Megan told me what they want to hear.
• 2:02:31
  Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's what it boils.
• 2:02:32
  On to yes, in the special interest, I could fire the
• 2:02:34
  people I need to fire, do the things I need to do.
• 2:02:36
  That was like a very powerful message in 2016.
• 2:02:38
  And after four years, I was one of the people even back then
• 2:02:41
  that said, look, it never materialized.
• 2:02:43
  He did wind up taking super PAC money.
• 2:02:44
  He took eight PAC money, for that matter, Sheldon Adelson
• 2:02:47
  money at that time in 16, even in the first term, bombed Iran
• 2:02:50
  in the first term, didn't build the wall in the first term,
• 2:02:52
  didn't even reduce illegal immigration until 2019.
• 2:02:55
  And I remember the timeline perfectly because I covered it
• 2:02:57
  every day. The only reason that he did is
• 2:02:59
  because of COVID and he had and he was able to justify
• 2:03:00
  shutdowns. Like in May and June 20, 1920
• 2:03:03
  year. Oh wait, never.
• 2:03:04
  That was a little earlier. Never mind illegal immigration
• 2:03:06
  high in terms of month over month.
• 2:03:07
  But why did I go for him? In 2020, at the height of the
• 2:03:10
  pandemic, we all thought on the right that if anyone other than
• 2:03:13
  Trump was president, you were going to get a vaccine mandate,
• 2:03:15
  which we really didn't want to be forced to take the vaccine.
• 2:03:19
  We thought the lockdown might never end.
• 2:03:21
  We thought that censorship would kick into OverDrive.
• 2:03:23
  And so we said, really, it's unacceptable that anyone other
• 2:03:26
  than Trump would would just be a disaster.
• 2:03:28
  And then obviously, Biden came in.
• 2:03:29
  And then he did much better than Trump, so.
• 2:03:31
  I don't think it was as bad as we thought it would be, to tell
• 2:03:33
  you the truth, honestly. But by 2024, I mean, I was out
• 2:03:37
  in 2024 because everything you're saying is totally true.
• 2:03:40
  And I was telling people on my side, I was saying he's not.
• 2:03:42
  It must be like really convenient to be somebody like
• 2:03:43
  Nick Fuentes who could just pretty much, he could just
• 2:03:45
  pretty much trend ride and then he could hop off the train
• 2:03:48
  wherever he wants. Not going to build the wall, and
• 2:03:50
  I know you're against that. He's not going to do the mass
• 2:03:52
  deportations. Promising that he's not going to
• 2:03:54
  start no new wars. I said in 24 he's going to take
• 2:03:56
  a tour in Iran and the Ukraine war.
• 2:03:58
  I said, that's not going to end in one day, too complicated.
• 2:04:00
  We're already in it. And so I didn't vote.
• 2:04:02
  I didn't vote in 2024. And I told my followers not to
• 2:04:04
  vote for Trump for that reason. And it was only until a year
• 2:04:07
  later, after all the exuberance died down and people saw the
• 2:04:09
  bearing of the Epstein files, the war in Iran, people said,
• 2:04:12
  you know what, you were right. You were right about Trump.
• 2:04:14
  Even Alex Jones told me you were right about Trump.
• 2:04:16
  I I was all in on him. So I mean, as far as him being
• 2:04:18
  vaporware is concerned and a scammer and and fundamentally
• 2:04:21
  you're 100% right. This is so funny.
• 2:04:23
  No ideological core. By the the funniest part about
• 2:04:26
  this is the, the fundamentally what front does is saying like,
• 2:04:29
  hey, in this second term, Trump came in and he just didn't do
• 2:04:31
  anything he promised and he was been a failure.
• 2:04:33
  That's what Trump did the first time too.
• 2:04:37
  Trump was an absolute fucking failure the first time.
• 2:04:40
  Remember he came in, said he'd do health, fix healthcare,
• 2:04:42
  didn't do anything to fix healthcare.
• 2:04:44
  He's going to build the wall, didn't build the wall.
• 2:04:46
  He said he was going to do the only thing he did.
• 2:04:48
  He cut taxes for billionaires. That's all he did and then
• 2:04:51
  rolled back regulations, though, like we're we're protecting the
• 2:04:53
  environment and keeping people alive, like fighting back
• 2:04:57
  against like, you know, you companies allowing them to like
• 2:05:00
  fucking flood the world with cancer.
• 2:05:05
  He didn't do anything. And so it's just it's so funny.
• 2:05:07
  It's like he didn't do anything the first, his first fucking,
• 2:05:10
  you know, election and we splotted him again.
• 2:05:14
  Why is that? It's because COVID.
• 2:05:15
  Trump is the only person who benefited from COVID.
• 2:05:17
  I keep saying this. He's the only person that
• 2:05:18
  benefited from COVID. He was able to benefit from like
• 2:05:20
  conspiracy theories around COVID to get re elected and like
• 2:05:23
  people forgot how truly terrible of a fucking worthless dog shit
• 2:05:26
  president he was. That's literally it.
• 2:05:29
  It's almost kind of funny, but it's not at the same time.
• 2:05:32
  It's fucking insane. He's not an ideological guy.
• 2:05:34
  Yeah, it is. He's.
• 2:05:35
  Literally. All about him and I agree he's a
• 2:05:36
  cruel narcissist and you said I like the cruelty.
• 2:05:40
  I do not. Like, no, by the way, No, I
• 2:05:42
  didn't. Yes, he does.
• 2:05:42
  Let's say you like the cruelty, I said.
• 2:05:44
  He does like the cruelty. Listening to you thing and you
• 2:05:46
  say 1 of the things that you liked about Levin was the
• 2:05:48
  cruelty, and not for the cruelty sake.
• 2:05:49
  It didn't seem to me like this is because it was raw.
• 2:05:52
  It was yeah, yeah. And that's it.
• 2:05:54
  So I'm not saying that. No, but I do I agree.
• 2:05:56
  I think. I think he is cruel.
• 2:05:58
  And even what he said on Easter, I mean, we're Catholic on Easter
• 2:06:01
  Sunday, he says. We're going to annihilate in
• 2:06:02
  Iran. And then he made fun of Allah on
• 2:06:05
  Easter Sundays. He.
• 2:06:05
  Doesn't care about this. If if he was still on the Trump
• 2:06:08
  train he would give a fuck about this.
• 2:06:10
  He's just, it's just a virtue signal.
• 2:06:12
  So you know, that that kind of stuff, it just totally turned me
• 2:06:14
  off entirely. Is there anything that you think
• 2:06:16
  Trump can do to like regain the support of the, I guess Gen.
• 2:06:19
  Z and Millennial, right? No, it's over.
• 2:06:21
  People see what he's made of. And Hunter's right.
• 2:06:23
  He's a liar. He is a liar.
• 2:06:25
  He is a a bullshit artist and he's made a poop.
• 2:06:27
  Especially you look at what he did with the Epstein files, with
• 2:06:30
  a war in Iran, what he did to Thomas Massie.
• 2:06:32
  This guy named Thomas Massey, there's something wrong with
• 2:06:35
  him. They just vote no.
• 2:06:36
  They love voting no. They think it's good
• 2:06:37
  politically. You realize that if you are
• 2:06:39
  America first, you have no place in this Republican Party because
• 2:06:42
  he said it, he said. Well, yeah, that's true because
• 2:06:44
  all Republicans, even the cuentas, don't like America.
• 2:06:48
  Somebody who wants to deport all non white people.
• 2:06:50
  Like yeah, you probably don't like America very much if you
• 2:06:53
  don't really celebrate diversity in a productive way.
• 2:06:56
  So a Republican Party. You don't have to come guzzle
• 2:06:58
  diversity but Jesus Christ these people are fucking insane
• 2:07:00
  lunatics. I want to rollback rights.
• 2:07:02
  He talks about how he doesn't want women to be able to vote
• 2:07:04
  like this. It's very it's anti American.
• 2:07:07
  Rather, he said, MAGA is Mark Levin, Laura Loomer, Randy Fine,
• 2:07:10
  he said. And who is not MAGA?
• 2:07:12
  Megyn Kelly, Tucker, Alex Jones, Candace.
• 2:07:14
  And I think most Republicans said, well, we're with those
• 2:07:16
  other people. We're not MAGA anymore.
• 2:07:17
  So. Anything happens, Nick.
• 2:07:18
  I believe that we need radical change.
• 2:07:20
  And I'm not talking about violence or revolution or things
• 2:07:22
  like that. I'm talking about the only ways
• 2:07:24
  that you can have this kind of radical rethinking of the, of
• 2:07:26
  the of the system. Like there's so many quite like
• 2:07:28
  what do you think about the Epstein files and what do you
• 2:07:30
  think about the accountability? Or do you think that he's broken
• 2:07:32
  the system to the degree that we now are basically in a
• 2:07:35
  dictatorship light? I think it's so funny because
• 2:07:37
  like whatever we're about to hear, like this is, and this is
• 2:07:40
  one of the beautiful things about what Fuentes can do.
• 2:07:43
  Fuentes. Fuentes downplayed Trump's
• 2:07:46
  involvement in the files. Like Fuentes was like, oh, who
• 2:07:48
  even cares? He was, he was downplaying 15
• 2:07:51
  year olds getting raped. He said like 15 year olds aren't
• 2:07:53
  kids. Like that's what he was saying.
• 2:07:56
  Same thing with Megyn Kelly. They were both downplaying it.
• 2:07:57
  So it's going to be so funny that he could just turn on a
• 2:08:00
  dime. He's just so deeply inauthentic
• 2:08:02
  because he was defending it for us.
• 2:08:03
  Like that's not like they were little kids.
• 2:08:04
  Like that's a, that's a downplay.
• 2:08:06
  That is a defensive Trump. Like he was still playing the
• 2:08:08
  game for a long time. He pretends that he like every,
• 2:08:11
  every, every conversation that this guy has and has evolved in,
• 2:08:14
  it's it's just like a, a reframing of the reality of like
• 2:08:16
  what he actually does and what he actually supports.
• 2:08:19
  It's fucking ridiculous. No, I actually, I have a lot of
• 2:08:23
  confidence only because I think the Democrats are going to take
• 2:08:25
  the House in 26, which I support.
• 2:08:27
  I'm telling my people vote Democrat.
• 2:08:28
  We want the Democrats in the House because what they're going
• 2:08:30
  to do is going to use the oversight powers to bring all
• 2:08:32
  the corruption to light. Because I know Republicans will
• 2:08:34
  watch this. And when you say, you know, we
• 2:08:36
  didn't commit crime, they're going to be skeptical.
• 2:08:38
  However, for the sake of argument, let's say the income
• 2:08:40
  you made during Biden was ill gotten for the sake of example.
• 2:08:43
  It's just not doesn't hold a candle.
• 2:08:45
  It doesn't even come close, doesn't even touch Jared
• 2:08:47
  Kushner, Howard Lutnick, Steve Witkoff, Don Junior, Trump
• 2:08:50
  himself. It's just a different sport.
• 2:08:51
  It's a different game entirely. And I want all that corruption
• 2:08:54
  to be revealed. And I think the Democrats are
• 2:08:56
  going to do it. I hope they get impeached.
• 2:08:57
  I don't think they'll be removed from office, but I think it'll
• 2:08:59
  basically drag this administration to a halt.
• 2:09:01
  And then 28, I think there's an opportunity for a clean reset
• 2:09:04
  with both sides right and left. Hey guys, quit.
• 2:09:08
  Right and left, probably the left's going to probably like
• 2:09:12
  gain more socialisms. I think the right's going to be
• 2:09:15
  pretty much lost after Maga's out.
• 2:09:17
  They're not like they're not going to be able to maintain it
• 2:09:21
  whatsoever unless Trump does like some kind of like a total
• 2:09:24
  takeover. So I think that he's just trying
• 2:09:27
  to cash out or maybe he's trying to tease the idea that he could
• 2:09:29
  run again. I mean, we've kind of seen them
• 2:09:31
  in different ways. But yeah, it's unfortunate
• 2:09:35
  because we're at a spot where like the whites, people need the
• 2:09:37
  white supremacist, like Fuentes for like the time being to prop
• 2:09:41
  up the message of like, yeah, we need to get rid of like the
• 2:09:43
  current MAGA expression for there to be like a reset,
• 2:09:51
  unfortunately. Big thing before we get back to
• 2:09:52
  Hunter and Nick. So these two guys individually
• 2:09:54
  have been hammered on all sides by the American media for years.
• 2:09:57
  And if you want to understand why the coverage looks the way
• 2:09:59
  it does historically, you've got to ask an important question
• 2:10:01
  that nobody asks Who owns the outlets doing the hammering?
• 2:10:05
  Me. Who's doing the hammering?
• 2:10:06
  Who funds them? Who's?
• 2:10:08
  I own them. On the board of directors, once
• 2:10:10
  you trace the money, the. Whole You know what Nick Fuentes
• 2:10:13
  would say. A2 party culture war thing
• 2:10:14
  starts looking a lot less like a real fight and a lot more like a
• 2:10:17
  business model and a very effective one.
• 2:10:19
  And ground news is how I see right through it.
• 2:10:21
  Yeah, Brown News. I love it.
• 2:10:22
  So Ground News is the dopest news aggregate out there app
• 2:10:26
  and. On a fucking I got to start
• 2:10:27
  getting these actually a conversation with holy fuck,
• 2:10:30
  what the hell, a conversation with a friend of mine that that
• 2:10:35
  actually does this type of stuff to like try to get brand deals.
• 2:10:37
  So there might be something coming in the future.
• 2:10:39
  Website as well beyond. That I just can't take anything
• 2:10:42
  I always say like no gambling. Shit I already have gambling ads
• 2:10:44
  turned off on YouTube. What the fuck?
• 2:10:46
  That's fucking crazy to me. You know, I think that's like
• 2:10:49
  the worst thing you could do. Ownership piece.
• 2:10:51
  Ever. I mean, killing these people is
• 2:10:52
  bad, but there's no killing people ads, so I'm safe from
• 2:10:54
  that, you know? Every outlet gets a bias rating
• 2:10:57
  and a factuality score, and there's a blind spot feature
• 2:10:59
  that catches stories that one side is hammering while the
• 2:11:01
  other side is completely ignoring, which happens more
• 2:11:03
  than you believe. Here's a perfect example.
• 2:11:04
  So my man, big Hunter Biden, big HB just won a $1.7 million
• 2:11:08
  defamation suit against ex overstock CEO Patrick Byrne, who
• 2:11:11
  lied and claimed the Hundred took an $800 million bribe from
• 2:11:13
  the Iranians. Pull it up in ground news.
• 2:11:14
  So the WLT report on the far right, the sister site of
• 2:11:17
  welovetrump.com at four years shitting on my boy Hunter.
• 2:11:20
  But today, the headline reads, Hunter scores stunning $1.7
• 2:11:23
  million court victory. Wow, stunning.
• 2:11:25
  Now on the left, Rawstory says. Stunning, like Trump says about
• 2:11:28
  his daughter, who was underage at the time.
• 2:11:30
  Hunter gets last laugh after Judge orders Mag, a millionaire
• 2:11:33
  to fork over at nearly 2 million.
• 2:11:34
  So on this story, as you can see left right, everyone converges.
• 2:11:37
  That's the ownership beat right there.
• 2:11:39
  Everyone's pissed in their pants, baby.
• 2:11:40
  WLT Report is a Trump loyal outlet and even they had to run
• 2:11:43
  the wind straight. That's the ownership beat right
• 2:11:45
  there. And when you can actually see
• 2:11:46
  the ownership inside of Ground News, you can.
• 2:11:48
  I really trust exactly what you're reading.
• 2:11:50
  Look, I don't do much news commentary.
• 2:11:52
  I don't know why you support infinite immigration when like
• 2:11:54
  half of the people coming here from those are I guess using.
• 2:11:59
  OK wow, that's incredible. You know?
• 2:12:06
  Anyway, I don't support infinite immigration.
• 2:12:08
  I think most people are pretty reasonable on immigration
• 2:12:11
  policy. That's a crazy fucking thing to
• 2:12:13
  say that I get to read the rest of it.
• 2:12:15
  That's probably why I got banned.
• 2:12:17
  Yeah. Nobody on the left, really,
• 2:12:19
  nobody like meaningful on the left, like, supports infinite
• 2:12:21
  immigration. It's kind of just something that
• 2:12:23
  people like to say, like when you're like, hey man, I don't, I
• 2:12:25
  don't think that we should. We should exclude people just
• 2:12:28
  'cause they're brown. It's like, oh, you want infinite
• 2:12:30
  immigration? Then it's like, OK, it's boring.
• 2:12:32
  I do documentaries, but before I sit down with two guys who've
• 2:12:35
  been extensively attacked by the press for years, I got to know
• 2:12:37
  where the coverage of them is actually coming from before I
• 2:12:39
  ask my questions. And ground news is exactly how I
• 2:12:41
  do it. If you want to be just like me
• 2:12:42
  and join the GNC 5 family, go to ground dot news slash Channel 5
• 2:12:46
  or scan the QR code on screen. You'll get 40% off the Vantage
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  Plan. The illest plan on the dopest
• 2:12:50
  app in human. History.
• 2:12:51
  Break out of the algorithm. Ground news all right, back to
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  100. And Nick, whenever you talk
• 2:12:54
  about Trump, sometimes you you explain this like nightmare
• 2:12:57
  scenario that revolves around advance presidency.
• 2:12:59
  What about JD Vance being in power scares you so much?
• 2:13:02
  His wife is brown. He doesn't like that.
• 2:13:05
  That's literally it. If Trump doesn't have an
• 2:13:07
  ideological core, then Vance really doesn't.
• 2:13:09
  Because Vance is a chameleon. That's not his real.
• 2:13:11
  That part is actually a good. Point name for openers.
• 2:13:13
  Never had a real job. These are all sinecures given to
• 2:13:15
  him by Peter Thiel. I mean, you've never had a real
• 2:13:18
  job either, but OK. Six years ago, he's a Never
• 2:13:20
  Trumper. I'm a never Trump guy.
• 2:13:22
  I never liked him. I think that he's leading people
• 2:13:24
  in a very damn he looks like shit dark direction and that's
• 2:13:26
  ultimately what worries me the most.
• 2:13:27
  Terrible candidate, idiot if you voted for him, might be
• 2:13:30
  America's Hitler. I was wrong about Donald Trump.
• 2:13:32
  I didn't think he was going to be a good president.
• 2:13:33
  Brett, he was a great president. Now he's a national
• 2:13:35
  conservative, national populist. And so we don't even really know
• 2:13:38
  who he is. I mean, to me, this is this is
• 2:13:40
  basically a Manchurian candidate.
• 2:13:41
  This is a shell. And who is the power behind him?
• 2:13:44
  It's the it's the oligarchs. It's the little tech oligarchs
• 2:13:47
  in bed with the CIA, you know, especially at this fever pitch
• 2:13:49
  with AII. Think that's really dangerous.
• 2:13:51
  So to me, him being president's just the worst scenario on my
• 2:13:54
  mind. For the uninformed viewer, what
• 2:13:55
  is the Palantir JD Vance connection?
• 2:13:57
  Well, Palantir was founded by Peter Thiel and Peter Thiel's
• 2:13:59
  very close with David Sacks. JD Vance was given his first job
• 2:14:03
  in Silicon Valley by Thiel. Thiel hooked him up with it.
• 2:14:05
  You know, the the CEO of that company said it was a personal
• 2:14:07
  favorite to Thiel. But I hired him and then Thiel
• 2:14:09
  got him all his jobs at these various venture capital firms,
• 2:14:11
  including his own and then funding JD Vance's venture
• 2:14:13
  capital firm. Peter Thiel gave $15 million to
• 2:14:15
  Vance when he ran for Senate in Ohio and 22.
• 2:14:18
  Damn, I guess it pays to be fucking insane, huh?
• 2:14:20
  Peter Thiel secured President Trump's endorsement for him in
• 2:14:22
  22, which basically got him the nomination in the seat.
• 2:14:25
  So, I mean, as far as anybody's concerned, Vance owes his entire
• 2:14:27
  political career to Peter Thiel, who drives his fortune from
• 2:14:30
  Palantir. And now he's a Catholic like you
• 2:14:32
  and me. Well, he's a convert, so you
• 2:14:34
  know. Beware the convert.
• 2:14:36
  So do you think that that Trump's unfulfillment of his
• 2:14:38
  campaign promises was a result of him being like, compromised
• 2:14:40
  by somebody connected to that structure, or do you think he
• 2:14:42
  always just never cared? I don't know that it's.
• 2:14:44
  Trump never cared What? He never cared.
• 2:14:47
  Being like compromised. Convert.
• 2:14:49
  So do you think that that Trump's unfulfillment of his
• 2:14:51
  campaign promises was a result of him being like, compromised
• 2:14:53
  by somebody connected to that structure, or do you think he
• 2:14:55
  always just never cared? Trump never cared about
• 2:14:57
  anything. What are we, dude?
• 2:14:59
  We have to, we have to, we have to understand like Trump, Trump
• 2:15:02
  did this as a bucket list. I think that's it, a bucket
• 2:15:07
  list. And to cash out like the guys
• 2:15:10
  made billions of dollars, especially in this election.
• 2:15:13
  He's gone fucking crazy with crypto scams and shit.
• 2:15:16
  Like it was obviously never about caring about the country.
• 2:15:20
  Trump would have ran it as like the fucking leftist wing
• 2:15:23
  Democrat in the entire world if he had to.
• 2:15:26
  He doesn't give a shit, he never has.
• 2:15:30
  He was just looking for like an excuse to run.
• 2:15:32
  That's it. He was looking to cash out.
• 2:15:36
  He doesn't give a fuck about anything.
• 2:15:38
  I. Don't know that it's.
• 2:15:40
  He might be compromised too, but he never cared about anything he
• 2:15:43
  was saying. Never cared.
• 2:15:44
  I just think that you know me, I'm an idealist, so I think
• 2:15:47
  about the ideas and the concepts.
• 2:15:48
  Trump is a businessman and so I think with him, everything
• 2:15:50
  transactional. And I said this in 2024.
• 2:15:53
  He knew Trump knew the voters would swallow anything.
• 2:15:56
  The voters could not, would not walk away from the table 'cause
• 2:15:59
  they were enamored with him. I.
• 2:16:00
  Could stand in the middle of 5th Ave. and shoot somebody and I
• 2:16:02
  wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's like, incredible.
• 2:16:04
  So he knew he could break every promise with them in order to
• 2:16:07
  fulfill promises for the donor class, which is Little tech, the
• 2:16:10
  Israel lobby and Wall Street, the bankers, Tim Mellon, you
• 2:16:13
  know, the big asset managers. So I think with him,
• 2:16:15
  everything's business, everything's a transaction.
• 2:16:18
  And that's why you can't trust him.
• 2:16:20
  You have to do business. And and 24, I said we should all
• 2:16:23
  collectively say we're not going to vote unless he makes certain
• 2:16:25
  commitments. And not enough people did that.
• 2:16:27
  But I mean that that's fundamentally his flaw.
• 2:16:29
  Your critique of this like elite power structure sounds like
• 2:16:31
  vaguely anti capitalist. It's not, it's not anti
• 2:16:34
  capitalist. You know, capitalism says the
• 2:16:36
  capital, large amounts of capital will be held in private
• 2:16:38
  hands, which I believe in. I am a capitalist.
• 2:16:41
  But I think what is happening is that it's the way that money is
• 2:16:44
  used in government. There needs to be a distinct and
• 2:16:46
  separate national power that it that subordinates the money
• 2:16:50
  power to it. The problem is the billionaires
• 2:16:51
  by all the elections, by all the media control public perception.
• 2:16:55
  And so really we're all subsidiary then to the market.
• 2:16:58
  So I I support capitalism, but it just has to be underneath the
• 2:17:02
  nation, underneath the state. Yeah, I agree.
• 2:17:08
  I just, I think that's so interesting that like that,
• 2:17:11
  that's a, that's a that's honestly like a cowardly tiptoe
• 2:17:14
  answer around like, hey, I support the Nordic model, which
• 2:17:17
  I he's congratulations. Nick Fuentes is on the left.
• 2:17:21
  Like that's basically what we're learning here.
• 2:17:23
  Nick Fuentes is a leftist. He's literally as far left as
• 2:17:27
  fucking Mama Donnie is. That's it.
• 2:17:30
  Unless he's just trying to say that to appeal to more
• 2:17:33
  left-leaning people and it's more of a dog whistle and he
• 2:17:35
  doesn't actually mean it, but like that is what people want on
• 2:17:38
  the left. That's literally it for the most
• 2:17:41
  part. Yeah.
• 2:17:42
  We understand billionaires are out of control. 100% dude.
• 2:17:45
  You have a pretty optimistic perspective on the year 2028.
• 2:17:48
  Well. He's going to get a third term.
• 2:17:49
  So Trump 28. Trump is going to be president.
• 2:17:51
  Do I? Do I think he's changed his
• 2:17:52
  eyes? Well, yeah, he just said that he
• 2:17:53
  wants to. He's a voting Democrat this
• 2:17:55
  time. I don't know how explicit it is.
• 2:17:58
  I don't think that we're getting into like a structure where he's
• 2:18:01
  like, oh, guys, I'm why I left the right.
• 2:18:04
  I don't think he'll ever do that, but like he's definitely
• 2:18:08
  changing sides to some degree where he's advocating more
• 2:18:12
  towards like the left. 28 kind of keep coming back to this like
• 2:18:14
  clean election year. Do you think that's going to be
• 2:18:16
  like a renaissance year for outsider candidates and outside
• 2:18:19
  media channels like this one? It can be.
• 2:18:20
  I think it certainly can be because I think there's
• 2:18:22
  frustration on the right and on the left.
• 2:18:23
  You know, you see even in the primaries on the Democrat side,
• 2:18:26
  it's all DSA progressive types that are winning.
• 2:18:28
  You ironically have the same frustration on the left with
• 2:18:30
  their establishment as we have on the right.
• 2:18:32
  And so I think, you know, in 2028, it's going to be a year
• 2:18:34
  where they'll be a competitive Republican primary and
• 2:18:36
  Democratic primary, and hopefully the people make their
• 2:18:38
  voice heard and. We maybe I really don't think
• 2:18:41
  that the right has any. The right's completely fucking
• 2:18:44
  cooked. Like, let's be fucking real, the
• 2:18:47
  right's completely fucking cooked after after this cycle is
• 2:18:50
  over. There's really nobody on the
• 2:18:51
  right that anybody's inspired by.
• 2:18:52
  Everybody's a Trump cuck. And once Trump's not in,
• 2:18:55
  nobody's going to like Trump shit because like Trump is just
• 2:18:58
  as is a is an obnoxious fuck. And you know, people like him,
• 2:19:04
  they don't actually like his message.
• 2:19:05
  Well, they like his message. They like how hateful and like
• 2:19:07
  rude and just like what such a piece of shit he is.
• 2:19:09
  They don't actually like, they don't.
• 2:19:11
  They're not going to like the overall message without Trump
• 2:19:13
  pushing it there, though. Like no one's going to eat like
• 2:19:16
  Vance's shit and go like, oh wow, it's it's not going to work
• 2:19:19
  out. Get we get some new options, you
• 2:19:21
  know, maybe that reflect the will of the people more.
• 2:19:23
  Yeah. And so, like, what do you think
• 2:19:25
  about somebody like Mamdani? Personally, I don't like him.
• 2:19:28
  I don't like some of the things that he said.
• 2:19:30
  Like for example, on 4th of July when he takes the opportunity to
• 2:19:33
  sit there with, let's be honest, not a single white person in the
• 2:19:36
  room and says, you know, the the founding fathers are would look
• 2:19:39
  down on us, the working people with their dirt streaked hands
• 2:19:42
  against the billionaires. I think it's a little too
• 2:19:44
  divisive. I like it.
• 2:19:49
  I love, I love when people criticize Momdani because it's
• 2:19:52
  always fucking lukewarm, dude. His big criticism was Momdani
• 2:19:55
  was mean to billionaires and it was it kind of cringe or
• 2:19:58
  something. What the fuck was that?
• 2:20:00
  Dude? I swear to God, man, Momdani
• 2:20:02
  gets such a bad fucking rap. It's so funny.
• 2:20:04
  Like Momdani really is. He's, he's just like, he's just
• 2:20:10
  trying to do his best and I think he's doing a decent job.
• 2:20:12
  He's lowering crime and shit and balancing the budget and he's
• 2:20:14
  trying to do his, you know what he's got to do and.
• 2:20:17
  Seems like an honest guy and you know, we get the brilliant
• 2:20:21
  criticisms like on 4th of July. He shouldn't have criticized
• 2:20:25
  billionaires. You know, it's fucking crazy.
• 2:20:28
  And there's so much more smoke for Mamdani than like there
• 2:20:30
  really should be. You know, we got a fucking
• 2:20:32
  pedophile rapist as a president, but Mamdani gets shit for to
• 2:20:35
  that whatever the fuck that was, whatever the hell that was.
• 2:20:40
  You know, I guess it makes sense when this did help downplay
• 2:20:44
  Trump's involvement in the Epstein files by saying those 15
• 2:20:45
  year olds were basically adults. But, you know, very interesting,
• 2:20:51
  I think that mom Donnie, his energy, that mom Donnie hates.
• 2:20:53
  Just like so forced, honestly. Yeah, I like that.
• 2:20:55
  He's young. He's ironic.
• 2:20:59
  That's really funny. But no, I mean, that's what
• 2:21:01
  Trump likes about him. Too it seems.
• 2:21:03
  It seems. Pointed at me.
• 2:21:04
  I know, but I Yeah, but but the the thing he.
• 2:21:08
  Was dissing you in that video? Yeah, a little staring down the
• 2:21:10
  camera. Like just unique.
• 2:21:11
  You son of a bitch. People like me.
• 2:21:12
  Yeah. But what I see.
• 2:21:14
  You never know. Is somebody is using government
• 2:21:16
  for exactly the purpose that you just said is to break the
• 2:21:19
  oligopoly, to target the anger towards a tiny, tiny, tiny
• 2:21:23
  percentage of the population that is that has controlled the
• 2:21:27
  the the levers of government from the White House Down to the
• 2:21:31
  the mayor's office in New York City or Peoria, IL to that
• 2:21:35
  matter and even more so as you go further down that chain and
• 2:21:38
  so. Yeah, Trump does like mom,
• 2:21:40
  Donnie. Well, he knows how to jerk him
• 2:21:41
  off the right way. You know, he tugs his boat, he
• 2:21:44
  gives him a little tug. You know what I'm saying?
• 2:21:46
  Look at somebody like mom Donnie and, and regardless of his
• 2:21:49
  delivery, which may be off putting, particularly for
• 2:21:52
  somebody coming from your side. I love pudding.
• 2:21:54
  Is it? He's delivering, man, you know
• 2:21:56
  what I mean? He's really delivering.
• 2:21:58
  You know, like I saw somebody going after mom Donnie for some
• 2:22:01
  of the stuff and and particularly about rent control.
• 2:22:04
  You know, it was like, how do you think that the middle class
• 2:22:07
  was built after World War Two in the GI Bill and and rent
• 2:22:09
  controlled buildings that created those communities that
• 2:22:12
  we were talking about an hour ago?
• 2:22:14
  The GI Bill provides returning soldiers and veterans a range of
• 2:22:18
  benefits including mortgages to purchase homes, loans to go to
• 2:22:22
  school, and this really was instrumental in creating the new
• 2:22:25
  American middle class. Created the the availability for
• 2:22:29
  somebody that was 26 years old that had a job with the MTA to
• 2:22:32
  be able to live and work in the city and put the kid in the
• 2:22:36
  school with the idea that they would be safe walking there and
• 2:22:40
  go to a park that, you know, where the where the water
• 2:22:42
  fountains worked. That's what I see him trying to
• 2:22:44
  do. I mean, by the way, it's just so
• 2:22:45
  tired. And you know, he's a communist,
• 2:22:48
  communist like this about the communist.
• 2:22:49
  Like who even says that anymore? True.
• 2:22:53
  It's fucking gay, dude. It's, it's fucking ridiculous.
• 2:22:55
  Everybody's a fucking communist now.
• 2:22:57
  If you don't want to cum, guzzle fucking capitalism.
• 2:22:59
  It's like, holy shit, like it's so weird.
• 2:23:03
  It is. It's just like, and it and it is
• 2:23:05
  gay. And I hate to use gay as a
• 2:23:06
  pejorative, but like you got people who are literally getting
• 2:23:09
  fucking violently violated in their asshole.
• 2:23:14
  And but then the second that's, but then someone with the second
• 2:23:17
  someone's like, hey man, we should make it easier for the
• 2:23:18
  middle class to exist. They're like, no, actually I
• 2:23:21
  want to get fucked in my ass by billionaires.
• 2:23:24
  That's like, oh, OK, well, that's fucking crazy.
• 2:23:27
  Well, you're, you're a very, you're a very fine balanced
• 2:23:30
  gentleman. Like what the fuck do you do
• 2:23:31
  with that shit? It is, it's so cringe.
• 2:23:33
  You guys are so it's fucking pathetic, honestly.
• 2:23:36
  Holy fuck. You know what, we're just 1919,
• 2:23:39
  you know, 81 and you know, we're watching Rocky 5 and worried
• 2:23:43
  about the Communist. You know what I mean?
• 2:23:44
  I I just don't, I don't get it. Well, the, the, the funny meme
• 2:23:47
  about the communism conversation, it is, it's like,
• 2:23:50
  this is how it goes. It's like somebody will say
• 2:23:52
  like, oh, you're, you're the lefter communist.
• 2:23:55
  And then the response will be like, well, we really just want
• 2:23:57
  like healthcare and like something that's more like the
• 2:24:01
  Nordic model. And then the response to that is
• 2:24:03
  like, oh, well, the Nordic, the Nordic model, those people
• 2:24:05
  aren't communists. It's like, yeah, we want that.
• 2:24:06
  It's like, no, no, no, it's communism.
• 2:24:07
  It's just, it's just this fucking circulating thing over
• 2:24:09
  and over again. That's like the fucking meme.
• 2:24:11
  It's ridiculous. What the hell is happening?
• 2:24:18
  Why is it muted back before? Oh they must have used audio
• 2:24:21
  that guy like taking out or something.
• 2:24:22
  My, my whole Philly legitimacy was just blown right there.
• 2:24:26
  But it's just kind of so I look at somebody like Mamdani.
• 2:24:28
  I think, well, he's just talking about good government.
• 2:24:30
  Like what do you think about healthcare?
• 2:24:31
  Don't you think that there should be a, a single payer
• 2:24:33
  system? Don't you think that there
• 2:24:34
  should be some guarantee as, as, as right?
• 2:24:36
  Because I don't know how you make it in this country and
• 2:24:39
  aspire to a middle class life and be able to afford a, you
• 2:24:42
  know, catastrophic event as relates to your health.
• 2:24:44
  I mean. I don't think that the, I don't
• 2:24:45
  think that Nick Front is going to be able to answer this
• 2:24:47
  question because he knows that, that we need health care, but he
• 2:24:50
  I don't know if he's going to be able to maybe he will be able to
• 2:24:53
  say it now that he's like going for it more Democrat right now.
• 2:24:57
  It's over. You're done.
• 2:24:58
  Yeah. I don't support single payer,
• 2:25:00
  but I do believe that everybody should be entitled to some
• 2:25:02
  minimum level of coverage, yeah. How does it look to you that if
• 2:25:06
  it's not single payer? That's traffic insurance, so in
• 2:25:07
  principle I agree. Which is Medicare for all to a
• 2:25:09
  certain degree, right? I mean, because that's all the
• 2:25:11
  Medicare does right now. But why is that radical?
• 2:25:14
  See, I don't think that's necessarily radical, but I.
• 2:25:16
  To to, to them. It's because we've been
• 2:25:19
  convinced that it's. To them, yeah.
• 2:25:21
  Those others. Yeah, no, them I.
• 2:25:23
  Well, you helped the vote, you voted them in.
• 2:25:25
  You're part of that. What are you talking about?
• 2:25:26
  I mean, the insurance companies, sure.
• 2:25:28
  And the, the, the, they're lobbyists who control 55% of the
• 2:25:33
  of, of, of Congress, regardless of who's in power.
• 2:25:35
  Right. Well, and I don't think that's
• 2:25:36
  necessarily the most radical. I think though he is with the
• 2:25:39
  DSA, the Democratic Socialist of America.
• 2:25:41
  He backs all these DSA candidates and let's be honest,
• 2:25:44
  a lot of them more radical, like, who cares?
• 2:25:45
  I saw one of these candidates that just won in New York a
• 2:25:47
  couple weeks ago, the Chevalier candidate, there's a picture
• 2:25:51
  she. Hates my dad.
• 2:25:52
  Yeah, she. Said about my dad, she.
• 2:25:54
  Said awful things about him and she says, oh, I didn't have a
• 2:25:56
  napkin to wipe my hands, so I used the American flag.
• 2:25:59
  That's it. I thought you're going to tell
• 2:26:00
  me something like she supports fucking, like taking away
• 2:26:04
  capitalism or something. She used the American flag to
• 2:26:06
  wipe her hand. Yeah.
• 2:26:07
  By the way, I think it's crazy but I but.
• 2:26:09
  I don't, I don't care. Like again, I love this.
• 2:26:11
  I'm a fucking Boy Scout. I'm an Eagle Scout.
• 2:26:12
  I love this country. I don't care.
• 2:26:13
  Like that's like this. I'm so milk toast.
• 2:26:16
  Like we're like you're expected to.
• 2:26:18
  This is one of the things is like this is like part of the
• 2:26:20
  programming. You're expected to get like
• 2:26:22
  really offended by that. Like holy fuck, this person
• 2:26:24
  hates me too. I fucking hate America too.
• 2:26:26
  I love America. I hate America right now.
• 2:26:27
  It's like a toxic relationship, you know?
• 2:26:30
  What have we been doing for the past how like fucking decade
• 2:26:32
  here? It's just like riling up a bunch
• 2:26:33
  of racist bullshit. Our president's a fucking
• 2:26:36
  rapist, people. Like, I don't know what to tell
• 2:26:38
  you. How do you like America when a
• 2:26:40
  bunch of fucking rape apologists vote in a rapist pedophile
• 2:26:44
  that's destroying the country and they still support him?
• 2:26:46
  What am I supposed to know? I like this guy.
• 2:26:48
  He's so great. Our country is made-up of the
• 2:26:50
  way that we vote. And right now the system is
• 2:26:52
  shaking and all these fucking freaks voted in a piece of shit.
• 2:26:56
  And I'm supposed to get offended when somebody's upset with that?
• 2:27:00
  Like, what the fuck? What am I?
• 2:27:02
  What the fuck is this, You know? And the response is never from
• 2:27:08
  conservatives to make it better. They're not like, OK, why are
• 2:27:10
  these people saying they hate the country?
• 2:27:12
  They're just like, Oh no, they're evil and communist.
• 2:27:15
  I don't care. I don't care if you wipe your
• 2:27:16
  fucking Dick, your balls, your ass, your fucking pussy yeast
• 2:27:20
  wipe it all on the American flag dude, I don't care.
• 2:27:23
  It's part of freedom of speech. This country sucks right now.
• 2:27:26
  Who the fuck cares? You know make America great
• 2:27:28
  again make it like pre like 1990s.
• 2:27:32
  I don't know when Reagan didn't ruin unions that was earlier
• 2:27:36
  than that. But you understand my point.
• 2:27:37
  Like you know I love how they say make America great again and
• 2:27:40
  they point to Reagan who like fucked the country.
• 2:27:43
  So is my favorite in the fucking world dude, just like Oh my God
• 2:27:46
  dude, just shut the fuck up. That's the worst you could do?
• 2:27:49
  Give me a policy. Give me something that fucking
• 2:27:50
  matters. Like the same way that, you
• 2:27:53
  know, I thought a lot of the, the stuff that some people that
• 2:27:55
  got elected in 20/16/2020, even during the Tea Party, you know,
• 2:27:58
  kind of movement was, you know, egregious.
• 2:28:00
  Again, egregious. If it's a legitimate rape, the
• 2:28:03
  female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
• 2:28:06
  So. What do we do?
• 2:28:07
  What do we do, Nick? I think a better.
• 2:28:08
  Question guy sounds like a Trump supporter.
• 2:28:09
  What the fuck? Dude for real, what do we do?
• 2:28:12
  Can you at least come a little bit to this way?
• 2:28:14
  If you can come a little this. Way I can.
• 2:28:16
  Here's where. Here's where I can come is this.
• 2:28:18
  Whoa, come in my hand, do. You get what I'm saying?
• 2:28:21
  Yes, About the Holocaust thing. Oh.
• 2:28:25
  Sorry. It's like funny that he he
• 2:28:26
  brought it back to that, OK. About that I.
• 2:28:29
  Mean really. I do, I do.
• 2:28:31
  And listen, here's what I'll say.
• 2:28:33
  Now that I'm older, I I do think that's not the best approach.
• 2:28:38
  So I agree with you on that. OK, well that's not really
• 2:28:41
  anything. That just means that my optics
• 2:28:42
  are bad. He still believes that, but.
• 2:28:45
  And I see it as I get older, you know, because let's be honest.
• 2:28:49
  It's so interesting as you watch this because it gets crazy that
• 2:28:51
  like you don't have to get too sermon on asmah gold has a lot
• 2:28:53
  of positive stuff to say about Nick and Nick just really
• 2:28:57
  doesn't like Jewish people. And I, I thought I was, if I was
• 2:29:00
  somebody that was like friendly with asmah gold or I was like in
• 2:29:05
  a similar space as him, or I would typically criticize
• 2:29:08
  somebody in that space or I made somebody apologize to asmah gold
• 2:29:12
  in a lawsuit. I would probably be like this
• 2:29:13
  guy, this guy's not good and we need to talk about it.
• 2:29:17
  But that's probably why I'm not very successful, so let's keep
• 2:29:21
  that in mind. Those things, when I'm a younger
• 2:29:23
  guy, when I'm, you know, 1820, it's like you got to think
• 2:29:25
  that's just the age Jews are running society.
• 2:29:28
  What do they mean shut the fuck up?
• 2:29:29
  Whoa, women, I love it when you talk.
• 2:29:32
  Blacks need to be imprisoned for the.
• 2:29:33
  Jesus Christ the most. Part and a lot of young people
• 2:29:35
  think that's funny and everything like that I think
• 2:29:37
  that it also goes with the medium as well.
• 2:29:38
  Live streaming, social media, that's just what it rewards.
• 2:29:41
  So yeah, I think that people. That's such a that's what a cock
• 2:29:43
  answer. Hey, the the algorithm rewards
• 2:29:45
  this. So I say like wild shit, but
• 2:29:48
  like, I guess you don't really agree with which he does, but
• 2:29:50
  like he's pretending not to. It's incredible.
• 2:29:52
  Like you're just grifting. The algorithm rewards when I
• 2:29:54
  lie, so I'm going to keep lying. By the way, guys, trust me, I'm
• 2:29:57
  not a liar. People should try to move past
• 2:29:59
  some of that. I'll try, but if you if you try.
• 2:30:04
  Yeah, OK. Absolutely real.
• 2:30:05
  And as it relates to when you talk about Israel and Netanyahu,
• 2:30:09
  Likud government, what's happening now, what's happened
• 2:30:11
  for the past 20 years in terms of whether the funding is, what
• 2:30:13
  do you think it is? It's really important that you
• 2:30:15
  make a distinction between that and Jews, because here's the
• 2:30:18
  thing, OK, Zoram Mandani has a higher favorability rating in
• 2:30:22
  the United States among Jews than Bibi Netanyahu does.
• 2:30:25
  I think 65%. That's crazier.
• 2:30:27
  Percent of American Jews disagree with the approach that
• 2:30:30
  the Israeli government has right now.
• 2:30:31
  They don't disagree with you, but they completely turn on when
• 2:30:34
  they hear the conflation of Jews, Zionism, Israel as and and
• 2:30:39
  think automatically anti-Semitism, whether it's fair
• 2:30:41
  or not. OK, but you have to understand
• 2:30:43
  it. You have to understand it from a
• 2:30:44
  cultural perspective in which the recent history.
• 2:30:48
  Hunter is well and this too well, well, I don't know if he's
• 2:30:49
  too well-intentioned. I think that like, he kind of
• 2:30:51
  like, you know, I mean, he gets backtracking on a little bit of
• 2:30:54
  what I said earlier because I was just focusing on like,
• 2:30:57
  Fuentes's optics. But Hunter's optics make him
• 2:30:59
  look like nicer too. Like, he makes him look good
• 2:31:01
  too. I think if you're a Fuentes
• 2:31:02
  supporter, you might look at like some of the way that he's
• 2:31:03
  communicating and be like, you know what?
• 2:31:05
  Maybe I do like Hunter Biden a little bit, especially if you
• 2:31:08
  have Fuentes and he might, you know, change his mind on a
• 2:31:11
  fucking whim. Who knows?
• 2:31:13
  But especially if you have Fuentes, that's like actively
• 2:31:15
  advocating for people to vote Democrat in the next election.
• 2:31:21
  Hunter Biden, this is this is Hunter Biden's run.
• 2:31:23
  Like I just so you guys understand this, like you don't,
• 2:31:25
  you don't start running for president, you know, during the
• 2:31:29
  primaries or whatever, you start running for president now.
• 2:31:32
  You just you get yourself in the public atmosphere.
• 2:31:35
  You know, that's the entire thing.
• 2:31:37
  You're always running. And so like, I think this is
• 2:31:39
  part of it. It's a good time for him to come
• 2:31:40
  back. You know, people are much more
• 2:31:42
  forgiving now because our president's a fucking like a
• 2:31:44
  horrific piece of shit. So this is part of it.
• 2:31:47
  Now he's friendly with Fuentes and that's going to give him
• 2:31:49
  some kind of like credibility amongst I guess people more on
• 2:31:52
  the right, so. Is only one data point in 2000
• 2:31:57
  years of history as it relates to what it means to be a Jew, of
• 2:31:59
  which is there is what 1% point? 5% of.
• 2:32:02
  The really good hummus, That's what I've.
• 2:32:04
  Heard High world's population. Because I don't know what it
• 2:32:06
  adds to your argument or what it adds to your argument about
• 2:32:09
  Miriam Adelson being able to give $300 million to Donald
• 2:32:13
  Trump and commit to giving another $300 million to get her
• 2:32:15
  way. And we end up in more with the
• 2:32:16
  rent. Yeah, well, and I I think that's
• 2:32:18
  a valid point. I do think, though, that the
• 2:32:19
  issue is broader than just Netanyahu.
• 2:32:21
  Oh. Baby, by the way, it it, it
• 2:32:23
  obviously Netanyahu has a base within Israel, within the within
• 2:32:26
  the Jewish community here in the United States with Jared
• 2:32:28
  Kushner, you know what I mean? Jared Kushner, who is unelected,
• 2:32:31
  not a member of our government, is having has more control over
• 2:32:34
  the direction of everyday lives of American people right now
• 2:32:37
  than anybody that I know of. I mean.
• 2:32:39
  What sounds like the same thing that happened with what's that
• 2:32:43
  guy's name? Oh, Elon Musk.
• 2:32:47
  Sounds like that happened with Elon Musk where he wasn't
• 2:32:49
  elected and he got to go in and have a personal look at our
• 2:32:51
  finances, not save us any money, but cut a bunch of programs and
• 2:32:55
  then somehow mysteriously not lose any contracts of his own.
• 2:32:58
  How fucking interesting. While all he's doing is building
• 2:33:00
  a $6 billion private equity fund with the people he is
• 2:33:03
  negotiating for. Well, it's called a private
• 2:33:05
  equity fund. So I mean, how can he hate that?
• 2:33:07
  And I always say, look who's getting, look who's paying him
• 2:33:09
  and wondering whose interest that he is advancing.
• 2:33:12
  He's getting paid by the Saudis and get paid by the Emiratis and
• 2:33:14
  get paid by the Qataris. He's getting paid go down the
• 2:33:16
  list and for some reason. This guy is also gay as hell.
• 2:33:20
  Jared Kushner. What the fuck is this?
• 2:33:21
  Just another conservative closeted gay guy base by the
• 2:33:24
  way. But I love to hear.
• 2:33:27
  The hell? He is in control, along with
• 2:33:30
  Steve Witkoff, who is also not elected by anybody, deciding
• 2:33:33
  whether or not the straits of our moves are going to open up.
• 2:33:35
  And, and whether or not our, our gas prices are going to go down,
• 2:33:39
  it may not matter to the three of us necessarily, you know, an
• 2:33:41
  extra dollar, $0.60 or $0.85. But you know what, to 85% of the
• 2:33:45
  people that live in America, it means that it, it's the
• 2:33:47
  difference between whether or not they're going to be able to
• 2:33:49
  pay rent, you know, whether or not you're going to be able to
• 2:33:51
  actually put the gas in your car in Montana.
• 2:33:53
  I. Guess that's why we need rent.
• 2:33:54
  Control to drive to your job on the, you know, on the ranch.
• 2:33:57
  Well, and here, here's what I'll say to you, and this is
• 2:33:58
  something kind of why I want to do this interview is emphasize
• 2:34:00
  the message that as far as Jews are concerned in general, I
• 2:34:03
  think that it's the same standard that applies to
• 2:34:05
  everybody, which is as long as as you're patriotic, as long as
• 2:34:08
  you believe Americans should be put first by their government, I
• 2:34:10
  have no problem at all. And I think that everybody in
• 2:34:12
  the country should be treated with dignity and respect and
• 2:34:14
  have their civil rights. It's just this acute problem of
• 2:34:16
  no. He doesn't.
• 2:34:17
  He thinks that people should leave the country if they're not
• 2:34:19
  white. And he doesn't think Jews are
• 2:34:20
  white, by the way, even though pretty much all Jews are white.
• 2:34:24
  Most of them are. There's there's Lenny Kravitz
• 2:34:26
  isn't but. These people like you mentioned,
• 2:34:28
  like Larry Ellison and Mary Madelson and Jared Kushner,
• 2:34:31
  they're putting some other country before the interest of
• 2:34:33
  our own. And that, in principle, is what
• 2:34:34
  I have a problem with. There is going to be some people
• 2:34:36
  who watch this and feel like all right, no take backs ease.
• 2:34:39
  You know, well, again, Fuentes isn't putting the interest of
• 2:34:42
  our country before he puts the interest of himself before the
• 2:34:45
  country. That's why again, he wants to
• 2:34:46
  get rid of black around people. Maybe he'll soft enough as he
• 2:34:50
  gets older, I don't know. But.
• 2:34:51
  They might feel like you're just kind of trying to moderate and
• 2:34:53
  that now that you've achieved your goal and got a lot of
• 2:34:55
  support, you're kind of moderating because your main aim
• 2:34:57
  has already been achieved, which is sort of have a generational
• 2:34:59
  run and pop off. So now you're trying to kind of
• 2:35:01
  make your way more into the mainstream discourse, but you'll
• 2:35:04
  just go back again into the same sort of reactionary rhetoric
• 2:35:06
  once you're back in a number one spot.
• 2:35:08
  Well. Probably, I don't even think I'm
• 2:35:10
  moderating. And I even told our mutual
• 2:35:11
  friend it's, it's not even a moderation, it's not even an
• 2:35:14
  apology. It's clarifying because, you
• 2:35:16
  know, all along I've been saying this matter.
• 2:35:18
  Well, you said sure, whatever you said that you don't support
• 2:35:21
  Trump anymore. So it would be to some degree,
• 2:35:22
  it would be an apology, but. Message.
• 2:35:24
  I guess his whole idea was like, oh I thought Trump would be
• 2:35:26
  better. Oh I'm dumb.
• 2:35:29
  That's my favorite part. It's like, I thought Trump would
• 2:35:31
  do better. That sounds like you're an
• 2:35:32
  idiot. If you ever thought Trump was
• 2:35:34
  going to be good like you, you, you have a problem with the way
• 2:35:36
  that you interact with the world and you're very clearly fucking
• 2:35:38
  like uninformed and unintelligent.
• 2:35:39
  It's just that the way that I'm saying it changes and evolves, I
• 2:35:42
  also think how people respond to it changes as well.
• 2:35:45
  Because let's be honest, 10 years ago there was a very
• 2:35:47
  different kind of conversation about Israel.
• 2:35:49
  You could not mention it in a negative or critical way without
• 2:35:52
  being utterly annihilated in politics.
• 2:35:54
  We all know that ever since October 7th, that's not the case
• 2:35:56
  anymore. So I think that there's.
• 2:35:58
  For the most part, yeah, sure. There's sort of something
• 2:36:00
  reciprocal happening, which is. I think like a little after,
• 2:36:03
  like there was a lot of charity too, October during October 7th
• 2:36:06
  and then like right after that, then I do generally agree with
• 2:36:09
  that, yeah. The people are receiving me
• 2:36:10
  differently and as someone that's growing older and more
• 2:36:13
  mature, I'm I'm even representing myself differently.
• 2:36:15
  So I I wouldn't even call moderating, just clarifying.
• 2:36:17
  People are more receptive and I'm maybe better able to
• 2:36:19
  articulate. It and you think that's because
• 2:36:21
  you've kind of gotten older and been able to have like a longer
• 2:36:23
  career in media to reflect on different changes in your
• 2:36:25
  perhaps brain chemistry and lifestyle.
• 2:36:26
  That's a huge thing. I mean, I know it's 27.
• 2:36:28
  I have a very different mentality than I did when I was
• 2:36:30
  20. What's?
• 2:36:31
  The and kind of made difference to you.
• 2:36:32
  Just more even keeled. And I think every, you know, you
• 2:36:34
  know too. It's like when you're 20, you're
• 2:36:36
  just like a maniac, and then you hit 25 and you're like, all
• 2:36:38
  right. You know, I was a maniac when I
• 2:36:39
  was 49. OK, sorry.
• 2:36:46
  What, what I what I find like it's it's almost like a little
• 2:36:49
  silly. It is silly.
• 2:36:51
  It's just so like he just keeps making these like self
• 2:36:54
  deprecating drugs. It's like I got it, like I you
• 2:36:56
  used to do drugs, like I'm good, let's move on, you know?
• 2:36:58
  What I mean, my brain chemistry has definitely changed in the
• 2:37:01
  last seven years too, you know, and, and I do believe that
• 2:37:04
  people can grow and they can change.
• 2:37:05
  And I'm not asking you to, and I'm not asking you.
• 2:37:07
  What's The thing is his his growing and changing isn't
• 2:37:09
  changing his opinion. It's just getting better at
• 2:37:11
  expressing the dog whistles. So it's like, OK, what are we
• 2:37:14
  talking about when we say grow and change?
• 2:37:15
  It is to say things, but there are certain things that I just
• 2:37:18
  hope that you can hear without feeling attacked that some of
• 2:37:22
  the things that you said, whether it's edge learning
• 2:37:24
  otherwise are really hurtful. And then people completely turn
• 2:37:26
  off to the idea of being he. Doesn't care.
• 2:37:28
  Stop. Stop it.
• 2:37:30
  Listen to about anything and then you get dug in more and
• 2:37:31
  you're like go fuck yourself. Like you know, you can't take a
• 2:37:33
  joke kind of thing. And that's not what it is.
• 2:37:35
  It's not just woke ISM, it's just, it's not, it's people
• 2:37:38
  being really, really hurt by it and and I.
• 2:37:43
  Just make jokes about Jewish people in private like I do, you
• 2:37:45
  know? I accept your apology for all
• 2:37:46
  the main things you said about me.
• 2:37:49
  Yeah. You know, I'm.
• 2:37:50
  I'm on my apology tour. Is that the one thing you did
• 2:37:53
  say? You said I was a degenerate
• 2:37:54
  crackhead. I have the problem with that.
• 2:37:55
  Not you. Me.
• 2:37:56
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:37:57
  And I also said you were cool. Though, Yeah, Now by the way,
• 2:37:59
  you said a degenerate crackhead and you know what?
• 2:38:00
  I'm not even mad about that because I wasn't a degenerate
• 2:38:02
  crackhead. I spent more time on my hands
• 2:38:04
  and knees smoking anything that even I.
• 2:38:07
  Didn't say you suck of penises, that's crazy.
• 2:38:09
  Remotely resembled crack cocaine, it's true.
• 2:38:11
  And now you're so yeah. Isn't there a story about him
• 2:38:13
  doing like parmesan cheese or something?
• 2:38:16
  Gene Parmesan at your service. It's a little joke for people
• 2:38:20
  who are cool and understood the. Reference.
• 2:38:21
  Interesting you also said that you've never drank before.
• 2:38:23
  Right. Yeah, I've never had a drink.
• 2:38:25
  That's fucking cringes, I. Never done drugs.
• 2:38:27
  That's because you grew up, you know, with me.
• 2:38:29
  I feel like, how can you trust somebody who's never had a drink
• 2:38:32
  and never done drugs? You know what I mean?
• 2:38:34
  Not even a little bit of weed or something.
• 2:38:36
  Come on, man. I don't know.
• 2:38:37
  I guess is this unfair to be like, dude, come on, like just
• 2:38:40
  try it and fail on it? Like I was drinking a 14, I was
• 2:38:42
  drinking beers. That's why I don't really drink
• 2:38:44
  that much as my older age. But soon at that baby shower,
• 2:38:49
  dude, we're going to get fucked. I'm going to get fucked up.
• 2:38:50
  My wife's not going to get fucked up.
• 2:38:52
  You know, 'cause it's I don't know if you guys know this is
• 2:38:54
  bad to drink when you're pregnant.
• 2:38:56
  It's crazy. Do science every day, but.
• 2:39:00
  You like, don't be that guy. I grew up.
• 2:39:02
  With you too. And I was doing, yeah, yeah.
• 2:39:06
  You're not as smart as he is. My brother never drank.
• 2:39:08
  My dad too and. I was going to ask you, Nick,
• 2:39:11
  what kind of prompted your choice to just like, be sober
• 2:39:13
  for life and never drink. Well, you know, a big part of it
• 2:39:15
  is I had a lot of addiction in my family.
• 2:39:17
  You know, my grandfather was an alcoholic, committed suicide,
• 2:39:19
  uncle died from an overdose from crack cocaine.
• 2:39:22
  My mom, two of her uncles, heroin addicts for their entire
• 2:39:25
  lives. And I just devastated my family,
• 2:39:27
  devastated both of my parents. And so I know I have that
• 2:39:30
  addictive personality and probably have the genetics for
• 2:39:32
  it and maybe and not only that, but I like being rational.
• 2:39:36
  I like having my sober. I mean, this all might be true.
• 2:39:38
  I kind of just feel like he's just like not into the alcohol
• 2:39:41
  and he's like he's over complicated.
• 2:39:42
  He's like, Oh yeah, this this is, but it's really just like he
• 2:39:44
  never really had the affinity for it.
• 2:39:47
  But maybe I'm wrong. You know I don't this could be
• 2:39:49
  wrong about that. Mind, I think that's actually a
• 2:39:50
  sacred thing to have unimpaired reason.
• 2:39:53
  So the thought of losing control and and even being tempted to
• 2:39:57
  get into, you know, worse things.
• 2:39:58
  What? Do you think he's addicted to
• 2:40:00
  instead like Cowboys or something?
• 2:40:02
  I just thought it's just not worth the risk.
• 2:40:03
  So it's just never for me. Well, how much, by the way,
• 2:40:06
  sorry, do we have time? Is it, is it, how much do you
• 2:40:08
  think COVID warped not just your generation, but everybody?
• 2:40:13
  I, I, because I, I have this, this theory that the weirdest
• 2:40:16
  thing that broke for us with COVID and, and that nobody's
• 2:40:19
  really come to terms with how traumatic that was for, for
• 2:40:23
  everyone and. It's yeah, yeah.
• 2:40:26
  No, there's no theory. COVID was one of the, if not the
• 2:40:29
  most destructive thing that's happened, especially to younger
• 2:40:31
  people. During COVID, I was like 30
• 2:40:33
  years old. I was working at a bus company
• 2:40:36
  and I was like cleaning buses and I made sure a bunch of buses
• 2:40:39
  were disinfected so people can get the dialysis.
• 2:40:41
  It was a big deal. But like for the most part, I
• 2:40:43
  wasn't super changed. I was still going to work and I
• 2:40:45
  was able to be productive. But online blew up.
• 2:40:47
  But imagine being like 13 years old.
• 2:40:50
  I mean, I'm 36 now, so that was like 6 years ago.
• 2:40:52
  Nick is 27. That's six years ago, so he's
• 2:40:55
  21. That's young.
• 2:40:56
  But imagine being even younger, not going to your graduation,
• 2:40:59
  skipping through a year of school because you simply
• 2:41:01
  couldn't go to school 'cause it's like, you know, of the
• 2:41:03
  social distancing or, you know, the Internet blowing up a bunch
• 2:41:06
  of young people, getting really popular online because it was
• 2:41:09
  easy to blow up. And then like falling off after
• 2:41:15
  COVID went away and people weren't home watching as much.
• 2:41:18
  And like that you had this idea that, oh, I'm, I'm popular,
• 2:41:20
  there's something special about me, I'm good, blah, blah, blah,
• 2:41:22
  blah. And then you're completely
• 2:41:23
  destroyed. Just engaging in the online
• 2:41:26
  addiction network of social media where you get like, sue,
• 2:41:28
  Oh my God, I'm doing really well.
• 2:41:29
  I get addicted. And then you kind of crash back
• 2:41:31
  down. You don't do as well.
• 2:41:32
  Like, yeah, COVID was fucking destructive for young people, so
• 2:41:36
  mentally destructive. We often point back to it and be
• 2:41:39
  like, Oh my God, look at all these different people.
• 2:41:40
  Like why are there so many, I don't know, trans people
• 2:41:42
  experimenting to their gender Because people are just like
• 2:41:44
  home and they're confused and they so they don't know what
• 2:41:45
  makes sense anymore. Obviously, like intuitively
• 2:41:47
  things didn't make sense. So they're trying to explore
• 2:41:49
  like what makes sense. Oh, maybe I'm non binary.
• 2:41:51
  Maybe I'm a white supremacist or something.
• 2:41:54
  Maybe I'm an incel. That's the same reason why we
• 2:41:56
  have all these people in the incel communities as well.
• 2:41:58
  I'm not being dismissive of trans people.
• 2:41:59
  I'm just saying there are so many different people that were
• 2:42:01
  just experimenting in different ways and they were confused and
• 2:42:03
  they were home and you know, they weren't going outside.
• 2:42:05
  They weren't having a meaningful social interaction.
• 2:42:07
  It was a, it was a huge cock like COVID fucked so many
• 2:42:10
  people. Like we're not going to recover
• 2:42:12
  from COVID for a long fucking time.
• 2:42:15
  It really fucked people because those people who are now like
• 2:42:17
  damaged and, and are now incredibly anti social, they're
• 2:42:21
  going to grow up. They are, well, they are growing
• 2:42:26
  up and they're going to be presidents and they're going to
• 2:42:28
  be fucking weird and they're going to be kind of smelly, you
• 2:42:32
  know what I mean? It's, it's going to be, it's,
• 2:42:34
  it's fucking, you know, it was a hell of a time.
• 2:42:38
  Especially for the younger generations, I think severely
• 2:42:40
  less for the older generations, but for the younger people
• 2:42:42
  missing the graduations, missing critical years in school, that's
• 2:42:45
  when the socialization happens. That's when you learn to get
• 2:42:47
  along and so. Yeah, true.
• 2:42:48
  And also like I remember my uncle passed away too COVID.
• 2:42:50
  It was really terrible. He's like a father of me and we
• 2:42:58
  couldn't do a funeral. It was fucked up, man.
• 2:43:02
  I remember seeing them like deceased.
• 2:43:03
  They was really fucked up. Like I was one of those.
• 2:43:06
  I think it was just myself, my mom who saw it, you know, I was
• 2:43:08
  at the hospital. It was like so quick and I saw
• 2:43:10
  his dead body. It was fucked up, dude.
• 2:43:13
  It's pretty fucked. It's pretty fucked up.
• 2:43:16
  So not a great experience, I'll tell you that.
• 2:43:18
  You think about how this generation is going to grow up
• 2:43:20
  having two to three lost years, you know, no sports, no school,
• 2:43:24
  no extracurriculars, vacations. It's devastating.
• 2:43:26
  And we already had a problem with that.
• 2:43:28
  Isolation, social dislocation, loneliness.
• 2:43:31
  I can't even imagine. So it's going to be devastating,
• 2:43:33
  I think. But that's a lockdown.
• 2:43:34
  So maybe if you're watching this video after this, you know.
• 2:43:37
  Yeah, well, he said, I like that when he snuck in there, it was
• 2:43:41
  funny. That's the lockdown, which is
• 2:43:42
  true. It is the lockdown.
• 2:43:43
  That is like the nature of the lockdown.
• 2:43:45
  He's not wrong about that. But like the idea that the the
• 2:43:48
  undertone to that for somebody in Fuentes community was like
• 2:43:51
  that was the conspiracy. Like there was a governmental
• 2:43:53
  conspiracy to shut down all business, to shut down all
• 2:43:58
  businesses, to get you, I don't know, to brood our economy.
• 2:44:03
  I don't even know what the fuck the conspiracy is.
• 2:44:05
  What they want control over what?
• 2:44:07
  What control do they get over a fucking pandemic?
• 2:44:09
  They already had billionaires already had us controlled.
• 2:44:11
  How does that help making people more skeptical of government
• 2:44:15
  overreach? Yeah, that's the government.
• 2:44:17
  Definitely good conspiracy government, yeah.
• 2:44:20
  Put your phone or computer away, go outside and make a friend.
• 2:44:22
  Just do anything but scroll to the next video.
• 2:44:25
  Back in the day during Nickelodeon, they had to go
• 2:44:26
  outside day. Oh yeah.
• 2:44:27
  You know, it's like we need, we need like one day a week where
• 2:44:29
  it's mandated in a tech oligarch sense that no one can go on
• 2:44:31
  their phone or use the computer. Man, I would love that.
• 2:44:33
  I mean, that's one thing. The one thing we could all agree
• 2:44:35
  on. The way I say it now is you're
• 2:44:36
  all carrying around a bag of heroin in your in your pocket.
• 2:44:38
  Everybody is. And it's it's.
• 2:44:40
  True. That's kind of true.
• 2:44:41
  Yeah, For real. Probably even more dangerous in
• 2:44:43
  some ways. Would either of you guys ever
• 2:44:44
  run for office? Are you asking me for real?
• 2:44:46
  Yeah, no. He's lying.
• 2:44:49
  Stop it. He's running for this is his
• 2:44:51
  run. I'm telling you right now, he's
• 2:44:52
  he's going to, he's going to float the idea.
• 2:44:54
  I think that that politics. I'm telling you the I'm going to
• 2:44:57
  say the Biden Sanders is a power ticket, 1000%.
• 2:45:03
  The Biden Sanders ticket is probably a power ticket.
• 2:45:07
  Maybe AOC, but I don't know if she's seasoned enough to be a
• 2:45:10
  secondary to him. And I don't know if I don't know
• 2:45:12
  if a woman that can be president.
• 2:45:13
  Yeah, I mean, I'm fine with it. You know, I just don't know if
• 2:45:18
  the country is ready to accept it.
• 2:45:20
  I'd vote for her. But like, that's why Hillary
• 2:45:22
  lost. Same thing with Kamala Harris.
• 2:45:24
  I mean, there there's other reasons too, but that was like
• 2:45:26
  the straw. If they were men, they would
• 2:45:27
  have won it instantaneously against Trump.
• 2:45:30
  They would have been like a fucking no brainer.
• 2:45:32
  So yeah, I'd vote for them too. It's just like, you know, you
• 2:45:35
  for for what's the biggest like reach out that you're going to
• 2:45:37
  be able to do, you know? The way that my dad engaged in
• 2:45:39
  it and I'm obviously incredibly biased is an incredibly noble
• 2:45:42
  thing, but that's not it's not what my head is in terms of what
• 2:45:46
  I want to do. I want to reach my whole thing
• 2:45:49
  is, is it forget all of this. I want to reach 1,000,000 people
• 2:45:52
  in addiction. I think one of the biggest
• 2:45:53
  things about addiction, one of the reasons why it is as it
• 2:45:56
  continues to be this, you know, epidemic is that we don't talk
• 2:45:59
  about it, is that you don't even talk about it around a dinner
• 2:46:02
  table and what you realize. You best assault, but imagine
• 2:46:07
  that's where you hit your crack cocaine.
• 2:46:09
  Be fucked up. If you're coming from my
• 2:46:11
  particular unique situation. It's like the joke about the
• 2:46:14
  putting like the milk in the freezer, the fridge, but it was
• 2:46:16
  actually like a just gallons of horse gum, except this time it's
• 2:46:20
  your drugs inside of your salt shaker.
• 2:46:22
  Wait, did you get that salt shaker underneath my radiator
• 2:46:28
  that I was hiding? Is that everybody comes to me
• 2:46:31
  and they give me, they tell me their story and sharing that is
• 2:46:34
  like, you know, breaks that cycle of shame.
• 2:46:36
  And so I want to reach 1,000,000 people in addiction.
• 2:46:38
  How about you, Nick? Would you ever run for office?
• 2:46:40
  I don't think so, no. Just because you can't, I don't
• 2:46:42
  think you can fully be authentic when you're.
• 2:46:44
  Running. It's so sad because Nico said
• 2:46:45
  this guy could be a really good president.
• 2:46:47
  Like for office because you it's a different role.
• 2:46:49
  I think you can be authentic running for office.
• 2:46:51
  And I think my role, they say, according to the Overton Window
• 2:46:54
  idea. Ideas that are inside the
• 2:46:56
  Overton Window are ideas that are politically safe.
• 2:46:58
  The public is ready to accept them.
• 2:47:00
  They say that if you want to change people's opinions and
• 2:47:02
  what they consider acceptable, you kind of have to be the first
• 2:47:04
  of the punch and maybe considered a bad person or evil
• 2:47:06
  or whatever in order to promote your view.
• 2:47:08
  And so that just doesn't lend itself to that kind of politics.
• 2:47:11
  Well, I mean, Nick already admitted before that he says
• 2:47:13
  some inflammatory things online just for the attention of it.
• 2:47:15
  So it's going to be kind of hard to, you know, I mean, it would
• 2:47:18
  be easy for you to do because that's apparently what you were
• 2:47:20
  already doing. But I mean, I guess it would be,
• 2:47:22
  you know, he wouldn't be able to be authentic.
• 2:47:24
  He thinks you couldn't be authentic and be president.
• 2:47:25
  I think that you can be authentic.
• 2:47:26
  I think Barack Obama was a generally authentic person.
• 2:47:29
  I think Biden, Joe Biden was an authentic person in general.
• 2:47:35
  You know, it's just the way that his his strategy would be
• 2:47:39
  inauthentic. So I think to protect my own
• 2:47:42
  integrity and authenticity of the message, I have to not run
• 2:47:44
  for office. See what we just did?
• 2:47:46
  We just made. Walk for office, guys.
• 2:47:47
  That's what I'm pushing for, Walking for office.
• 2:47:50
  Probably the entire audience happy. 1/2 he's glad I'm not
• 2:47:52
  running. The other half is really glad
• 2:47:54
  he's not running if. Not you guys in his they're.
• 2:47:56
  Both went to his lives all the time, so.
• 2:47:57
  Any candidate or perspective candidate that you feel like
• 2:48:00
  could run in 2028 that would, you know, have a fair shot that
• 2:48:02
  you'll support? Nobody in particular for me.
• 2:48:04
  I honestly, I haven't really been too impressed with who's
• 2:48:06
  come out of the Republican Party.
• 2:48:07
  So I'm hoping they'll just be somebody we haven't heard of,
• 2:48:09
  somebody maybe that hasn't been in office before.
• 2:48:11
  He's voting for Gavin Newsom. That's right.
• 2:48:13
  Yeah. Well, if it's Newsome Advance,
• 2:48:15
  I'd certainly think about it. How about you?
• 2:48:17
  Anybody that you know, it creates a twinkle in your eye,
• 2:48:20
  no? I think that there are a lot of
• 2:48:21
  people, I mean, I know that you think that you're going to laugh
• 2:48:24
  at me, but I, I, I personally like Gavin Newsom a lot.
• 2:48:26
  I think that he's authentic in those police, whether you,
• 2:48:29
  whether you agree with him or not, Thomas Mash, he's I.
• 2:48:31
  Don't know if I would say he's authentic but OK.
• 2:48:35
  Principal stand as it relates to to.
• 2:48:38
  I think the the, I mean like, listen, well, there's plenty of
• 2:48:41
  problems with Newsom. I mean, you know, he takes money
• 2:48:44
  too to increase the restrictiveness of building new
• 2:48:46
  buildings. That's what they all kind of do.
• 2:48:48
  They get money from billionaires and millionaires to preserve the
• 2:48:51
  value of like different properties.
• 2:48:53
  But I mean, he's trying to do the Trump thing where he's
• 2:48:58
  trying to be like inflammatory online in the Trump way to like
• 2:49:00
  get a Trump audience. And it's just like, I don't
• 2:49:02
  know, that's not really resonating with me.
• 2:49:04
  I, we, I would vote for him because like, what the fuck else
• 2:49:07
  am I going to do? But.
• 2:49:08
  The Epstein files was incredibly courageous.
• 2:49:10
  Do not let the Senate muck this bill up.
• 2:49:12
  I am sorry if one of your billionaire donors is going to
• 2:49:15
  get embarrassed because he went to Rape Island.
• 2:49:18
  Fucking Christ. Based.
• 2:49:21
  Not it's not based Going there, just to be clear.
• 2:49:26
  But OK, that's why he's not going to be a congressman
• 2:49:27
  anymore. But that's why, you know, he
• 2:49:29
  couldn't potentially make a really strong national
• 2:49:31
  candidate. And you guys think America will
• 2:49:32
  exist in a post Epstein capture freeway?
• 2:49:35
  Will America exist? I mean, you know, I like to
• 2:49:38
  think so. I think the question is less, is
• 2:49:40
  America going to exist and, or, and more the bigger question is
• 2:49:42
  like, is America going to exist as a powerhouse like it used to?
• 2:49:46
  And based on the current trajectory, America's not going
• 2:49:47
  to be a powerhouse. Like Trump has done pretty
• 2:49:49
  massive damage. People are very stupid and they
• 2:49:53
  want to like pretend that that doing a bunch of isolation and
• 2:49:55
  shit is going to make us more powerful.
• 2:49:57
  Really stupid to make other countries hate us, especially
• 2:49:59
  our allies, just for nothing because Trump isn't getting
• 2:50:02
  anything out of it. I guess just to impose some
• 2:50:05
  tariffs that never could have worked economically.
• 2:50:08
  But you know, we were a, we're a massive amount of the world
• 2:50:11
  economy. Other countries liking us could
• 2:50:13
  be willing to give us better deals and work with us more is
• 2:50:16
  absolutely pivotal. And Trump has done nothing but
• 2:50:19
  like position us into a place where like, they're not going to
• 2:50:22
  want to do any of that. That's the major problem here.
• 2:50:29
  So I'd like to think, I like to think we'd be around.
• 2:50:33
  That'd be cool, but I'd like to think that we'd be a powerhouse,
• 2:50:38
  which is probably just not going to happen.
• 2:50:39
  Trump has done some pretty, pretty insane damage and people
• 2:50:42
  don't get it. Yeah, like, you know, will
• 2:50:44
  America survive the current power structures?
• 2:50:46
  Strangle Larry Ellison banned me to.
• 2:50:49
  Hold on the media, the political system and all public.
• 2:50:51
  Affairs. I don't know.
• 2:50:51
  I I think AI is going to really be transformative.
• 2:50:54
  It's interesting. Nobody seems to be talking about
• 2:50:55
  that. I don't even want sense like for
• 2:50:57
  for for bad. Concentration of power, that's
• 2:50:59
  the biggest, single biggest. And you know what, I'm actually
• 2:51:01
  on the liberal side on this with Anthropic over the, let's say,
• 2:51:05
  you know, 'cause there's this battle between these effective
• 2:51:07
  altruist, effective acceleration as.
• 2:51:09
  And I really am nervous about what's going to happen,
• 2:51:11
  especially in the next 4 years, 'cause they're racing towards
• 2:51:13
  this artificial general intelligence, artificial super
• 2:51:15
  intelligence. And that without a doubt is
• 2:51:17
  going to be the single biggest influence on the country.
• 2:51:20
  And so I'm really worried. About and what about?
• 2:51:21
  Yeah, especially since most of most of your friends and family
• 2:51:25
  are so incredibly moronic that they don't know what real what
• 2:51:27
  is real and fake. Like, you know, your your mom
• 2:51:30
  and your fucking like brothers and sisters and shit are falling
• 2:51:32
  to Facebook memes like literal just somebody, some idiot
• 2:51:35
  pumping out like lie slop. They will they won't even do a
• 2:51:38
  basic Google search. They'll see something like
• 2:51:40
  Momdani created mega AIDS and they're like, Oh my God, this is
• 2:51:43
  fucking real. Holy fuck.
• 2:51:45
  So like now you're extra cooked, especially as AI begins, like is
• 2:51:48
  really just pumping out its own slop as time goes on, 'cause
• 2:51:51
  that is what's happening AI 'cause just like it just pumps
• 2:51:53
  out slop. And even Facebook is I think
• 2:51:55
  just for the most part just AII actually like on Facebook.
• 2:51:59
  I like the reels on Facebook the most, more than any of my other
• 2:52:01
  platforms, funny enough. But I mean, you know, people are
• 2:52:06
  just going to get more and more fucking cooked and they're going
• 2:52:09
  to get Dumber and Dumber and like your family's going to do
• 2:52:11
  more and more. Your family's going to say some
• 2:52:12
  stupid shit that they saw on Twitter and they're going to go
• 2:52:15
  or excuse me, this one on Facebook or Twitter and they're
• 2:52:17
  going to go, that's real, right? And you're like, that's not
• 2:52:18
  real. Oh, but they're already going to
• 2:52:19
  have that anchor bias. Like they'll, they'll see
• 2:52:21
  something that's like total horseshit.
• 2:52:23
  They're going to have an anger bias into it.
• 2:52:25
  And then the even if you tell them it's not real, it's going
• 2:52:27
  to take extra work to get it out of their head.
• 2:52:29
  And even if you you somehow do it, they're not going to like
• 2:52:31
  authentically actually change their fucking mind.
• 2:52:33
  It's going to be crazy. That concerns you.
• 2:52:34
  Is it surveillance? It's the concentration of power
• 2:52:37
  in the hands of whoever controls it.
• 2:52:38
  Whichever firm is the one to develop ASI that could confer
• 2:52:41
  dictatorial like powers upon the CEO of that company.
• 2:52:44
  So whether that's Sam, Altman or Dario, you know, if the
• 2:52:46
  artificial intelligence is aligned with its creator, that
• 2:52:49
  person will become the most powerful person in the history
• 2:52:51
  mankind. It's almost an inherent truth in
• 2:52:53
  my opinion. What teacher said is that the
• 2:52:54
  the greatest leap and human evolution is going to happen
• 2:52:57
  within our lifetimes. AGI, let alone, you know, super
• 2:53:00
  intelligence is everything that we think about the way in which
• 2:53:04
  we exist in the world completely changes.
• 2:53:05
  And I don't think that that's in any way hyperbole.
• 2:53:07
  And if you listen to the people that are developing these
• 2:53:10
  technologies right now, they are the they are the most alarmist.
• 2:53:14
  I think AI will probably like most likely sort of lead to the
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  end of the world if. You want to know what like it's
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  like when you're not the Apex Intelligence?
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  Ask a chicken. And now, by the way, I think
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  that there is an enormous possibility.
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  Yeah, especially since we're like kind of treading downwards
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  into like a spiral of fucking unintelligence right now.
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  I mean, the Conservative Party really wants you to be dumb.
• 2:53:35
  They want to cut school. They put the, they want to cut
• 2:53:37
  funding for like schools, like basic, like regular, like K
• 2:53:39
  through twelves. And they push conspiracy
• 2:53:41
  theories that like their only reason that you're more
• 2:53:43
  left-leaning is because you're getting indoctrinated.
• 2:53:45
  This is ironic because they get indoctrinated by religion and
• 2:53:48
  the concept of faith to take, you know, lies and as facts
• 2:53:51
  because they feel good about taking those lies, not because
• 2:53:54
  there's any facts you know, behind them, but they're telling
• 2:53:59
  you that that you're basically getting groomed.
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  And when the reality is the more intelligent you are, the less
• 2:54:03
  likely you are to be conservative and less you are
• 2:54:06
  rich and you want to centralized power to do yourself.
• 2:54:10
  People are getting Dumber. They're less aware.
• 2:54:13
  It's so unfortunate, like, but like the majority of people
• 2:54:18
  nowadays, and it doesn't have to be this way, but they're dumb
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  and they don't and they're just not even really mentally
• 2:54:25
  capable. They're just, they just exist.
• 2:54:29
  They might as well be like a fucking like a low effort
• 2:54:32
  computer or something. It's, it's fucking embarrassing
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  for them and they don't care. They think that they're smarter
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  than they are. I'm not saying I'm the smartest
• 2:54:38
  guy in the entire fucking world or anything.
• 2:54:42
  I'm just saying that like we're fucking cooked out.
• 2:54:44
  Maybe it's crazy. For incredibly beneficial things
• 2:54:49
  to society, like the being able to cure cancer, I just this one
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  thing. Everything that AI is built on
• 2:54:54
  is ours belongs to you and you and you.
• 2:54:56
  Yeah, that's true. Everybody's indoctrinated, but
• 2:54:58
  indoctrinated by something that's true.
• 2:54:59
  It's just like whether you're going to be indoctrinated by the
• 2:55:01
  truth or some kind of like, fucking fairy tale.
• 2:55:03
  All the way back through the, the human civilization, that's
• 2:55:06
  what they're stealing from us. And they're putting it into the
• 2:55:08
  hands of literally a, a handful of people.
• 2:55:11
  All of that human knowledge and, and, and the value that comes
• 2:55:15
  from it. And I think that that's ours.
• 2:55:17
  So any AI that is developed particularly that goes to HE, it
• 2:55:20
  should be a it, it should be communal.
• 2:55:21
  It should be shared in in the the not just the beneficial
• 2:55:24
  offshoots of it, but the actual money of it.
• 2:55:26
  Yeah, through Ubi it'd be shared.
• 2:55:28
  Yeah, I totally agree with that. I think it's like nuclear.
• 2:55:31
  Yes, yes, thank you. This is, I've been waiting
• 2:55:34
  because like you're, you're going to start seeing a, a
• 2:55:36
  greater rise in the concept from conservatives of some kind of a
• 2:55:40
  universal basic income, which is that a, that's a nod to, which
• 2:55:42
  is basically taxing AI technologies and, and
• 2:55:45
  distributing that wealth to people, which is a good idea.
• 2:55:47
  And the reason is because that is a conservative idea.
• 2:55:50
  And I really want people to understand that this is a
• 2:55:51
  deeply, truly conservative idea because the idea of a Ubi is
• 2:55:54
  like, Hey, listen, let's you know, it's really good for the,
• 2:55:58
  I mean, it's good for the economy.
• 2:56:00
  It's less micromanagement, right?
• 2:56:03
  Like we have a tons of welfare programs right now and they're
• 2:56:05
  super micromanaged. Like helmet, there's over 100
• 2:56:08
  different welfare programs. And Ubi is usually is like the
• 2:56:10
  kind of a concept of rolling back and cutting back some
• 2:56:12
  welfare programs, you know, because you'll have a Ubi
• 2:56:16
  implemented. And that's where the Republican
• 2:56:20
  Party should have been by now. But it's not because we have
• 2:56:23
  Donald Rapist. Like, that's the guy, that's
• 2:56:26
  your guy, That's our guy, you know?
• 2:56:28
  So it's nice to see somebody like, oh, let's, you know, it's
• 2:56:31
  nice to see some conservatives finally like, Oh yeah, this is
• 2:56:33
  what we need. It is what we need.
• 2:56:35
  I mean, how authentic this one does, I have no fucking idea.
• 2:56:37
  But this is definitely what we need moving forward.
• 2:56:40
  Your bombs, but it's also a commodity at the same time.
• 2:56:42
  The weapons potential, the economic potential.
• 2:56:44
  I think that's going to be the biggest thing.
• 2:56:45
  And I, I hope on some level that liberals win that argument
• 2:56:48
  because you know, what Trump is doing with the Pentagon,
• 2:56:51
  anthropic and open AI, the way they're handling it is so
• 2:56:55
  reckless and sloppy and, and just honestly unbelievable.
• 2:56:57
  So we need some adults in the room on that one.
• 2:56:59
  Well, it's been a great conversation.
• 2:57:01
  I appreciate you guys for coming.
• 2:57:02
  You guys have any final questions you want to ask for
• 2:57:04
  each other or maybe a message you want to give to the American
• 2:57:06
  people? I still believe in America and I
• 2:57:07
  truly believe in these conversations and I think
• 2:57:10
  everyone that's watching would think that I would would not
• 2:57:12
  want to sit down with it and this I guess what I'm getting
• 2:57:14
  out with you is it is it. I hope you see the humanity of
• 2:57:16
  me. And so when the way that you,
• 2:57:18
  that you talk in the future takes that into consideration
• 2:57:20
  and what I'll do is, is I, I'll see the humanity in you.
• 2:57:24
  Yeah, I agree. I think it was a great
• 2:57:25
  conversation and I think that, you know, we have to come
• 2:57:27
  together on the things that we agree on, which is, for example,
• 2:57:30
  that we love the country, we both believe in America.
• 2:57:32
  Again, he doesn't believe in America.
• 2:57:34
  It's it just needs to be stated. It's a fact.
• 2:57:35
  He doesn't actually believe in America.
• 2:57:37
  He's the antithesis of it. He wants no meaningful
• 2:57:40
  immigration. It's like a mass like oust a
• 2:57:41
  bunch of people, but. Yeah, we both want the country
• 2:57:44
  to succeed and, and I like what you said that we see the
• 2:57:47
  fundamental humanity in each other and I think that.
• 2:57:49
  You know, I don't know, this is the problem is like, maybe Nick
• 2:57:51
  is being authentic, maybe he's getting older and he's like,
• 2:57:53
  yeah, you know what? I see the humanity, blah, blah,
• 2:57:55
  blah. Or maybe he's doing what he
• 2:57:56
  usually does and he's lying. I mean, who the fuck are we
• 2:57:58
  going to? What are we going to know?
• 2:57:59
  We're not going to really know. So that's just is what it is.
• 2:58:02
  We're just kind of, we're just kind of at the mercy of whatever
• 2:58:06
  he wants to say, I guess. You know, especially in the
• 2:58:08
  events of the last year, the killing of Charlie Kirk, you
• 2:58:10
  realize that's actually not something that that people on
• 2:58:12
  both sides share. I think there's people on the
• 2:58:13
  right and the left that don't see the humanity in the other
• 2:58:15
  side. And so maybe that's the new
• 2:58:17
  consensus or that's where you can come together is on the
• 2:58:19
  basis that, you know, we disagree on fundamental issues
• 2:58:21
  and even sometimes it gets heated and we yell at each
• 2:58:23
  other, but that we do ultimately want the best for each other.
• 2:58:26
  We love each other. We want the country to succeed.
• 2:58:28
  And I think that's a starting point for any solution in any
• 2:58:30
  conversation all. Right, American brothers, thank
• 2:58:32
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• 2:58:34
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• 2:58:36
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• 2:58:54
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