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After 34 years on the bench, what is Justice Thomas’s legacy? · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Helping to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.
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  This is the Constitution Study on the America Out Loud Network with your host, Paul Engel.
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  On May 7th, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas achieved a record as the second longest serving justice in the court's history.
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  After more than 34 years on the bench, what did we the people get?
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  Hello there, everyday Americans, Paul English with a constitution study, where we read and study the Constitution, teacher action generation be free.
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  Glad you could join me today.
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  You know, I was looking at this, and all I could think of was that song, you know, 16 tons and what do you get?
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  Another day older and deeper in debt.
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  Well, after 34 years, six months and a handful of days with Justice Thomas on the court.
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  What did we get?
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  Now I've looked at some of the things, and of course, a lot of this is going to be very flowery.
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  They're going to be very uh uh, you know, complimentary of Justice Thomas.
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  Justice Thomas has done a lot of good work.
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  He's also done a lot of bad work while he was at it.
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  Now he he was um appointed to the court uh on October 23rd, 1991, is what date he was actually sworn in, uh, after a contentious uh uh confirmation in the Senate.
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  He was approved 52 to 48.
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  Remember, he was uh the replacement for Bork.
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  You know, the the poor guy that got railroaded in the Senate, uh, eminently qualified, but um he got he got a political hatchet job, and they tried to do the same thing to Justice Thomas.
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  He he was able to squeak through.
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  He was he's only the second black member on the Supreme Court, he was the second man appointed to the court, um, which uh again in today's day and age.
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  Um well, you might say, let's see, he was he's black, he's a male, he's old.
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  I guess two out of three ain't bad, right?
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  Because it's all supposed to be old white men.
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  So but he he also he replaced the first black justice, uh Justice Thurgood Marshall, who did a lot of damage to this country uh on that court.
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  So uh, you know, again, I uh there's a lot of what Justice Thomas done is great.
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  I've got a lot of problems with a lot of what Justice Thomas has done.
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  But let's focus on something.
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  Um he did help eventually uh overturn Roe v.
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  Wade.
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  Um he's had uh uh some success in protecting second amendment rights and and uh attempting to reduce the power of federal agencies, but he was very much in favor of pretty much all things law enforcement.
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  Uh pretty much every case I can think of where law enforcement was their actions were under question, he tended to fall on the side of law enforcement.
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  The the thin blue line extended into the Supreme Court through John through through uh Thomas, Justice Thomas.
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  Of course, he's also been a lightning rod for well, Democratic lawmakers.
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  Um he was faced sutiny for accepting uh uh luxury trips paid for by friends, which uh the the Democrats court, they never complained when other people did it, but you know, that's you know, um, he was mainly, I believe, a target because, well, his generally conservative beliefs and his general deference to the actual language of the Constitution.
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  Um and these demands that he be investigated, all these investigations seemed to fall short of finding anything he did that was actually wrong.
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  Now, in general, he seemed to embrace things like religious liberty.
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  Uh, he opposed same-sex marriage.
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  Uh, he supported broad presidential authority in violation of his oath of office, and he wanted to rein in campaign finance restrictions.
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  Okay, like anything else.
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  He's a human being, right?
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  He's not gonna do everything right.
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  He's he's flawed, he's human, he's going to get things right and get things wrong.
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  It's one of the reasons why I don't support and endorse people.
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  I support endorse policies.
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  And I have to say, you know, I I would give uh Justice Thomas a a better than average standing.
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  I think he has been uh on the constitutional side much more often than uh the anti-constitutional side, but again, no one is perfect, and I don't want to pretend that he is simply because he's been on the court a long time.
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  But for everyone out there that is been hollering for term limits, I want to point out that the same term that would have gotten rid of us, say a Ruth Bader Ginsburg, would also have gotten rid of a Clarence Thomas.
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  Which means regardless of which side you're on, term limits have a less concerned about term limits for uh justices because they are not elected.
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  The people do not choose the justices.
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  So I don't have the same issue or concern about term limits I do with justices that I do with uh members of Congress, where the people are actually voting for these people, and and you're telling them you can't vote for them anymore because of some arbitrary limit that was set.
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  So, but again, 34 years.
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  That's a lot of time on the bench.
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  I mean, he he again he joined the bench in what 1991.
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  I mean, that that's that's a that's a long time, ladies and gentlemen.
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  And uh, like anything else, good and bad, it's certainly a milestone worth recognizing.
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  Now, who, hopefully you're asking, is the longest serving Supreme Court justice?
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  The answer to that at 36 years, 209 days is William O.
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  Douglas, who served from 1939 to 1975.
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  I don't remember him.
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  I was a child at the time.
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  I didn't pay much attention, but uh so Thomas has a long, he has a couple more years before he's approaching Douglas's record as the longest serving Supreme Court Justice.
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  But he has quite a head start on the the next highest incumbent justices, uh, the next longest serving incumbent justice, John Roberts, uh, the chief justice.
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  Uh, he's now sitting there at uh uh over 20 years, along with Justice Samuel Alito.
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  Um uh Roberts was inaugurated or was sworn in in September 2005, Alito January of 2006, so they have a long time to wait as well.
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  And sick, so they have a long time to wait as well.
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  And again, length doesn't mean good.
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  And again, length doesn't mean good, length doesn't mean bad.
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  Length doesn't mean bad.
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  Length just is.
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  Length just is.
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  And since most people don't realize that Supreme Court justices do not have lifetime appointments, they serve during their good behavior.
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  And since most people don't realize that Supreme Court justices do not have lifetime appointments, they serve during their good behavior.
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  Um there's very it's been very hard to get rid of these people unless they die or on their own decide to to retire.
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  Um there's very it's been very hard to get rid of these people unless they die or on their own decide to to retire.
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  Um that's you know, kind of the
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  Um that's you know, kind of course people have been trying to change that.
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  Like I said, I don't so much have issues of I I don't have the same issues with term limits on judge on judge justices and judges because they're not elected by the people.
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  But again, that would take a constitutional amendment and uh well, it just it I don't see it happening in our current uh political climate.
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  But while we're talking about judges and justices, I saw an interesting statement by the U.S.
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  attorney for the middle district of Tennessee.
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  My area where I live, uh Brandon uh BoSick, I believe is how it's pronounced, joined other Department of Justice officials in responding to a request for public comment from the Tennessee Supreme Court.
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  Again, this is going to get interesting.
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  Hang on for a second.
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  The question is they want to comment on the role of the American Bar Association and what it plays in in the role it plays in accrediting law schools in Tennessee.
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  According to uh you know, U.S.
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  attorney Bo Sek's the ABA behaves like a cartel.
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  Instead of insisting on excellence, the ABA insists on conformity with narrow political ideologies.
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  That's very interesting.
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  Now understand, the American Bar Association is a private organization, right?
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  It is not a public entity.
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  It's it, but yet states around the nation have turned it into the monopoly of accreditation and in some cases even approval of certain high court offices.
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  Now, he posted on X that uh uh he urges the Tennessee Supreme Court to abandon the ABA's exclusive law school accreditation privileges.
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  See, here in Tennessee, if you want to have it run a law school, you have to get the blessing of an exterior private club.
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  A yeah, call it a cartel, uh, call it a guild.
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  It is a private organization that is the only one currently in Tennessee allowed to accreditate law schools.
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  Now, I have issues with law schools, like the fact that they don't teach the constitution.
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  I've asked God a couple of hundred at this point, lawyers.
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  When they went to law school, did they study the language of the constitution or the opinion of justices, known as constitutional law?
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  And in all those years and all those questions, I've had one person say he actually studied the constitution in law school.
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  So, yeah, if that's the quality of the work a the ABA is doing, uh, yeah, we should not they they should certainly not have a um monopoly on this accreditation.
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  They should um no, they they should have competition.
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  In fact, I would say that the state should have a set of qualities for law schools that actually include, oh, I don't know, studying the constitution of the United States, studying the constitution of Tennessee, if you want to take a law school class in in Tennessee.
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  Um yeah, I'd love to see the ABA not just get competition, but maybe even be found be uh compet competitioned out.
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  As Mr.
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  Bose said, Tennesseans deserve the best quality lawyers, and that's not what we're getting.
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  So uh this is gonna be interesting.
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  I'll have to keep an eye on this because again, it impacts me as a as a Tennesseean.
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  Now, I am not an attorney, I don't play one on TV.
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  I have absolutely no interest in attending a law school.
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  Although I did have one attorney suggest that I audit a couple of classes just for my own edification and education, which who knows, I may do one day.
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  But I'm very interested in this because again, I do deal with attorneys.
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  Uh again, because the I'm looking at cases and I'm reviewing cases, and and again, many members of of the state legislature are attorneys.
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  I've interviewed a coup a couple of them here.
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  And uh it's important, I think that we have, yes, we need the best quality lawyers.
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  We need the best quality attorneys.
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  And that really doesn't happen with an organization that seems more interested in the politics of a uh of education than in the actual education itself, or as uh uh as Mr.
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  Bose said, uh, whether labeled DEI or not, discrimination based on race is illegal and wrong, and apparently promoted by the American Bar Association.
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  I've had a lot of people come to me with um conspiracy theories that the American Bar Association, they actually what they say is something a lot of American British attorneys organization, I don't know.
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  The idea is that the Bar Association being a member of the bar has something to do with some old British tradition.
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  And well, maybe there's a tradition, but as I understand it, the bar that's referred to is if you look at a courtroom, there is a bar that separates the gallery where the public can come and observe, and the actual court where the attorneys and defendants and prosecutors they work with where the jury sits.
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  There's a bar you have to cross, you have to go through.
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  That's the idea of being admitted to the bar, the ability to cross that line and act as an attorney.
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  That's my understanding of it.
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  So uh again, we'll have to see.
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  I'm I'm I'm gonna have to keep an eye on this.
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  Is it um will the the state supreme court will they recommend it?
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  Would this have to be passed by law by the the uh general assembly?
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  Um I'm very curious.
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  I I would like to see the monopoly of the American Bar Association broken up.
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  Because they hold, you know, again, if they're the ones that are controlling the trainer, and the trainer of our attorneys are training in the opinion of judges rather than the actual law, and that's my biggest issue, right?
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  We when I worked in IT, we had to train the trainers, where often it was my job to train people who would train others.
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  Well, the American Bar Association is kind of the trainer of trainers, right?
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  They're training by accreditation by demanding certain things from these law schools, they're training them, and that they they will dictate what our attorneys look like.
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  And well, let's just say there's a reason why there are so many lawyer jokes and why they generally don't come out so well for the for the attorneys.
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  Come out so well for the for the attorneys.
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  I think a lot of it has to do with their training.
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  I think a lot of it has to do with their training.
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  I'd love to see better training.
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  I'd love to see better training.
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  I'd love to see better rules about the ability to act as an advocate, you know, not having to be a part of some private organization to have the liberty to exercise a skill simply because you don't want to join an organization, racist organization or not.
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  I'd love to see better rules about the ability to act as an advocate, you know, not having to be a part of some private organization to have the liberty to exercise a skill simply because you don't want to join an organization, racist organization or not.
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  So this opens up some very
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  So this would be opens up some very interesting questions.
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  I'm kind of curious what you think about it.
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  I hope maybe you'll you'll reach out, uh, comment on the on the website, AmericaOutloud.news, or um, you know, hey, maybe ask a question, right?
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  Go to Constitution Study.com slash questions.
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  Maybe you'd like to ask a question about this, and we can talk about it uh on a later episode.
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  But again, I I you know we we make jokes about lawyers, they've deserved many of them.
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  You know, why do sharks not in in the ocean not eat lawyers, professional courtesy, things like that?
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  You know, it's a lot of it comes down to the training they get.
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  And uh, I think we if we had better training, we'd have better lawyers.
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  Of course, you have better lawyers.
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  Well, then maybe we'd actually have lawyers that are prepared to protect your rights.
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  I don't know.
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  That's my thought.
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  Now, I've got a break coming up before I go, though.
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  Uh, we talked a little bit about the American Bar Association.
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  Now let's talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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  Now let's talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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  Now you've all heard about or should hopefully by this point are familiar with the um the FBI's anti Catholic attacks that happened under the previous administration.
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  Now you've all heard about or should hopefully by this point are familiar with the um the FBI's anti-Catholic attacks that happened under the previous administration.
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  There was a memo back in January of 23 that the FBI used.
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  There was a memo back in January of 23 that the FBI used.
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  It came out of the Richmond office, I believe.
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  It came out of the Richmond office, I believe.
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  Uh, basically going after Catholics.
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  Basically going after Catholics.
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  Anybody that believed in a traditional cat uh a Latin mass.
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  Anybody that believed in a traditional Latin mass, they were designed as dangerous based on what?
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  Well, apparently, this anti-Catholic memo was based heavily on information from the Southern Poverty Law Center, which um uh understand the SPLC when it was first formed had a noble goal.
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  There was still they were trying to deal with racism and and and such, especially in the southern states, as it's the southern poverty.
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  They wanted southern people that were poor to have a chance to get legal help.
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  That was their goal.
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  They've um they've changed over the last 34 years to basically a hate group in and of itself, but I got more on that coming up later.
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  Now, the SPLC tried to link entire Christian communities, including Roman Catholics into violent extremists because they didn't like them.
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  They they claimed uh uh uh that that uh they were you know racist, uh neon, all sorts of crazy things.
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  And of course, the Richmond Field Office used that language, that evidence quote unquote evidence to justify actions that were criminal.
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  They they um they targeted individuals and organizations for being Catholic with no underlying evidence of an actual crime.
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  Now, the Department of Justice recently released a report called Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias within the federal government.
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  Now, the the report promised a future reports.
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  I love when our report says we're gonna have more reports.
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  Uh things like uh weaponizing working group, the weaponization working group to detail the the weaponization of the Richmond Field Office against conservatives, practicing Catholics, based on literally just guilt of being Christian or built on being guilt by being Catholic.
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  Now, the the SPLC in recent years have used their their quote hate crime, uh their hate group map, where anybody who disagreed with them politically was listed as a uh a hate group, even individuals are called hate groups, which I always found interesting.
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  Um, and they used uh this to well intimidate different charitable foundations by blacklisting them and attempting to get uh uh advertisers to not support the any programs of work that they're doing.
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  They even went so far as to try and get banks to stop doing business with organizations simply because the SPLC said, well, this is a hate group.
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  You know, groups that like go, I don't know, teach about the constitution, uh, groups that uh oppose uh government mandates, illegal government.
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  Yeah, they were listed as hate groups, and of course, they had a lot of influence.
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  There were several banks that several organizations that were debaned because of this, and now apparently the shoe is on the other foot.
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  See, Fidelity Charity recently denied a contribution to the SPLC.
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  Now they claim they haven't targeted the SPLC for ideological reasons, the same way the SPLC targeted their political opponents.
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  However, this uh this large donor-advised group said um basically we don't donate money to uh nonprofit organizations that are currently under criminal investigation.
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  According to a New York Times report, Fidelity Charity is aware of an ongoing governmental investigation into the Southern Poverty Law Center, uh, consistent with our grant making standards and practices.
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  The organization is not an eligible grant recipient due to the ongoing investigation.
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  Now, again, uh the SPLC is not going to get these grants, and they're not eligible for these grants, not because of their ideology, but because their current criminal investigation, which maybe the shoe isn't quite on the other foot.
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  Maybe it's a sandal, but now they're the ones not getting grant money because of, in this case, a criminal investigation.
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  Now, another uh uh entity of Vanguard Charitable said that the Vanguard Territory grants only to organizations that meet IRS requirements.
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  If we become aware an organization has been charged with a crime by state or federal authorities, we pause grant making while the mend matter is pending.
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  Now, this comes out of the fact that uh about a couple weeks ago, a federal grand jury issued indictments against the Southern Poverty Law Center on charges of wire fraud, bank fraud, conspiracy for sending money uh to members of white supremacist groups, including the Kluk Klux Klan and the Aryan Nation.
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  Now, the SPLC said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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  We didn't actually donate to them.
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  We just uh well, we supported um uh we were trying to investigate them.
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  We were trying to pay informants uh uh we have in in those in those programs.
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  Um really for example, uh the indictment list that the SPLC they didn't just pay field agents, they supervised the racist posting for the organizer of the 2017 Charlottesville Unite the Right Rally.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh anybody remember the Charlottesville nonsense that was going on back in 2017.
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  Now, according to a book by uh what was this?
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  It's uh Tyler O'Neill.
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  Uh he wrote a book called Making Hate Pay, the Corruption of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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  So obviously he has a bias in this.
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  I'm not saying he doesn't.
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  Um, he documents the weaponized history of suing the Klu Klux Klan into bankruptcy to smear conservatives.
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  Uh, to place mainstream conservative and Christian nonprofits on a hate map with Klan chapters, claiming the MAC revealed the infrastructure upholding white supremacy.
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  And uh some this was also claimed that the hate map helped inspire the terrorist attack in in 2012.
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  Back in in 2012.
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  The SPLC also partnered with the Council on American Islamic Relations or CARE.
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  The SPLC also partnered with the Council on American Islamic Relations or CARE.
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  Um they published what they called a hate-free philanthropy reports and called on companies in the charitable sector to blacklist anti-Muslim hate groups, which you please, I guess believe is anybody who disagrees with uh Muslims or or maybe Sharia law being used in the United States, but this was used to
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  They published what they called a hate-free philanthropy reports and called on companies in the charitable sector to blacklist anti-Muslim hate groups, which you please, I guess believe is anybody who disagrees with Muslims or or maybe Sharia law being used in the United States.
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  But this was used to create an effective blacklist of groups on the SPLC's hate map, which certain banks like Amalgamated Bank and others simply refuse to do business with.
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  Now they're on the other side of the coin.
• 28:42
  The shoe, I guess you could say, is on the other foot.
• 28:45
  Now, the SBLC has been indicted.
• 28:49
  They haven't been found guilty yet.
• 28:51
  They get their day in court.
• 28:53
  And that to me is um, well, it's important, right?
• 28:57
  They they need, they've been alleged to have uh funded more than three million dollars to organizations of various white supremacists and other extremist groups.
• 29:09
  They have their side, the government has their side, and uh our core process is designed to see which has a more credible argument.
• 29:17
  At least that's the way it's supposed to work.
• 29:19
  So far, the the SPLC has pled not guilty.
• 29:23
  Um, or the head of the SPLC pled not guilty for the group uh back on May 7th in uh in an Alabama courtroom.
• 29:30
  But these are that just means that the the case is going to go on.
• 29:35
  Now, as I said, the SPLC says, well, we actually use that money to fund informants.
• 29:42
  Yeah, but that wasn't disclosed as I understand it to the donors.
• 29:46
  That's the allegation of the federal government.
• 29:48
  That when they donated to the National Socialist Party of America or the um the Aryan Nations uh uh sadistic souls motorcycle club, that uh the or the American front, they weren't actually donating to the causes, they were funding individuals.
• 30:05
  But if you don't disclose that to your donors, well, that's embezzlement and fraud, right?
• 30:14
  If someone comes to you and say, um, you know, we are are here to to fund lawsuits against these organizations, then you find out, well, no, we're actually, you know, donating to them, whether it's directly or indirectly because of the funding, then um they have a problem.
• 30:30
  Hence the the wired fraud uh allegations.
• 30:34
  So um, let's just say the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 30:38
  Uh, they they are in a bit of a pickle.
• 30:42
  Now, again, if what they say is true, and they didn't actually donate those causes they gave to individuals, they should have records to show that, I would think.
• 30:53
  If, on the other hand, they did actually donate to these organizations.
• 30:57
  It's one more example to me of you you can't judge a book by its cover, either for good or for ill, right?
• 31:05
  SPLC claims to do great things, but what do they actually do?
• 31:10
  I have this discussion all the time.
• 31:12
  I don't care what so much what people say, I care what people do.
• 31:18
  Now, what have I seen the SPLDC do so far is they're a very, well, I would say anti-traditional American organization.
• 31:27
  They don't apparently believe in traditional marriage, they don't believe in the Christian religion, they don't think that should be allowed in public.
• 31:34
  Let me rephrase that.
• 31:35
  It's not that they don't they don't believe it should be allowed in public, they are pretty much against uh uh its its use in demonstration.
• 31:42
  They are against anybody who disagrees with them politically, so they're basically a democratic shill group.
• 31:49
  And they are, and I'm really curious if they spent this much money, how much money do they spend on the hate map to attack the political opponents of Democrats?
• 31:58
  Were these effectively donations in kind?
• 32:01
  I don't know.
• 32:02
  I think the charges against them are pretty interesting, and again, this is going to go on for a while.
• 32:07
  We have a a I don't even know if a court date has been set yet uh for trial, but we're still dealing with motions.
• 32:14
  There's going to be a lot going on, but I find it very interesting that the SPLC, which again, they're famous for their hate map, they're famous for getting people debanked and deplatformed, and now they're being de-granted and facing uh for the fact that they're facing criminal charges, not because of their uh uh Marxist agenda, but because they have they're currently being charged with federal crimes.
• 32:40
  And well, let's just say organizations are not maybe so willing to, or so eager to donate to organizations that are currently facing uh federal investigation, federal indictment and investigation.
• 32:53
  But if you also think about you have the FBI under the Biden administration using their often unfounded, no actual evidence, their their claims as a reason to uh attack their political opponents.
• 33:09
  Um to me, this is much more than just the criminal case.
• 33:12
  What influence did this SPLC have on the on previous administration?
• 33:17
  What influence do they have on current administrations?
• 33:20
  I believe there's an executive order out that says federal agencies are not to take advice from the SPLC, but has that really stopped?
• 33:28
  I mean, these are all serious questions about our legal system, not just our political system, but the legal system and where we sit and well, what you can expect as a as an American citizen, how you may be treated by um by the legal system based on the the guilt by association of organizations like the SPLC.
• 33:53
  The SPLC isn't alone, there are others.
• 33:56
  And uh, I don't know, what do you what do you think about that?
• 34:00
  That's kind of what I'm curious.
• 34:01
  I know what I think about that.
• 34:02
  What do you think about that?
• 34:03
  What I do know is I do have another break coming up.
• 34:08
  After that, I have some interesting stories involving, oh, um, different uh the policies of sanctuary cities, um, the House of Representatives, even uh what's going on in um well, certain election issues.
• 34:22
  But before I get to that, like I said, I have to take this break.
• 34:25
  I want to remind you though, as I've shown, our rights are under attack.
• 34:28
  The SPLC is not a government entity, but they've been used to lobby government entities to come after our right to live free.
• 34:37
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• 34:38
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• 39:12
  We've been talking about well, 34 years, and what do we get?
• 39:16
  I mean, we have 34 years of Justice Thomas.
• 39:18
  And well, we're dealing with the ABA, and I spent the last segment talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 39:24
  Let's take a quick look at a couple of other things.
• 39:26
  We're still focusing around the law and do laws matter.
• 39:31
  Let me play this clip.
• 39:33
  It is of Katie Porter during a California gubernatorial debate.
• 39:38
  Go ahead.
• 39:39
  It's the job of the California governor to protect every single Californian.
• 39:43
  The sanctuary state policy is designed to make sure that our state resources, the taxpayer dollars, the public servants that we have are focusing on doing their jobs, which is not cooperating with the federal immigration authorities.
• 39:59
  These are Californians, they contribute to our economy, they pay taxes, and they're one of the only ways that our state has been growing in recent years.
• 40:07
  Okay, there's so many things there.
• 40:09
  Let's start with the very first.
• 40:11
  The job of the California governor is not to protect the people of California.
• 40:16
  It's to execute the laws of California.
• 40:19
  Now, she does have one thing correct.
• 40:21
  It is not the job of the California to do the work of the federal government.
• 40:27
  All right.
• 40:27
  Now, I I do have issues with federal immigration law because immigration is not a power delegated to the United States.
• 40:36
  But we're not, in many cases, we're not talking about the California government helping the federal government enforce their laws.
• 40:47
  We're talking about the California government spending money actively obstructing federal law.
• 40:54
  Now, do they have a point again about the constitutionality?
• 40:57
  Yeah, but that's not the point that's being brought up.
• 41:00
  But notice what she said, right?
• 41:02
  So, first of all, your your job is is not to protect the people of California, it's to enforce the laws.
• 41:08
  And how are you doing it that when you're taking uh people who are are in in jail for serious felony crimes, and rather than having them deported from the country, so they're no longer your problem, you'd rather spend money on a court system to keep them in your state.
• 41:27
  She goes, Bees are Californians.
• 41:29
  Well, okay.
• 41:31
  Um, they may be Californians.
• 41:33
  They say, well, they contribute to the economy, they pay taxes.
• 41:37
  Uh, not all of them, they also tend to disproportionately consume uh government services.
• 41:44
  So they're they pay you you kind of forget the other side of the story.
• 41:48
  But again, in her mind, if you illegally enter the United States, if you illegally enter California, you are a Californian.
• 41:58
  And ladies and gentlemen, California, if you elect this lady, that's exactly what you're gonna get.
• 42:00
  California, if you elect this lady, that's exactly what you're going to get.
• 42:03
  You can't be surprised.
• 42:03
  You can't be surprised.
• 42:05
  Because in her mind, any criminal that enters California is a Californian, and the state government will expend your tax dollars to protect them from other crimes from crimes, not only crimes they committed against federal law, questionable federal law, but apparently to protect them against California crimes against Californians as well.
• 42:05
  Because in her mind, any criminal that enters California is a Californian, and the state government will expend your tax dollars to protect them from other crimes from from crimes, not only crimes they committed against federal law, questionable federal law, but apparently to protect them against California crimes against Californians as well.
• 42:28
  Again, you have some.
• 42:29
  Again, you have somebody who's who's uh uh charged with uh with rape, murder, uh burglary, mugging, all these things.
• 42:38
  And rather than saying, you know what, they've already broken another law, so another the federal government will get rid of them for us.
• 42:44
  The government, the federal government will pay to get rid of them to get them out of here.
• 42:48
  No, we're gonna spend our own taxpayer dollars to give them a trial.
• 42:53
  Okay, they give them a trial, and when they're convicted, we'll keep them in California jails at the cause of California.
• 42:59
  And of course, again, you know, yes, they they may they say they contribute to their economy.
• 43:04
  They do quite a bit by taking government services that the other Californians pay for.
• 43:12
  Anyone else kind of see what's going on here?
• 43:15
  Okay, I'm switching gears.
• 43:17
  It's gonna be a little bit of a wild card, kind of a smorgasbord.
• 43:21
  Uh a representative Mario Diaz Ballard from Florida has um introduced an appropriations bill that basically is designed to codify executive order 14149, the restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship act, or I should say, order.
• 43:43
  Now, what I find interesting is is the way this is worded.
• 43:47
  It says none of the, among other things, is none of the funds made available for the programs may be used in contravention of executive order 14149 relating to restoring freedom of speech and ending federal censorship.
• 44:00
  Now, I don't know if this was a shortcut or just being lazy rather than saying, well, here's the law.
• 44:05
  We're gonna no, no, no, we're basically going to take the executive order.
• 44:08
  We're gonna let the president effectively write part of this law by simply taking the executive order and putting it into the law.
• 44:15
  Um, yeah, here's some of the things that the the teeth behind these these the appropriation of these funds.
• 44:23
  They may not be used to deflatform, deboost, demonetize, suppress, or otherwise penalize online speech, social media activity, or news content that is lawful under the United States.
• 44:36
  Now, what this really is saying is you remember when the Biden administration, you know, they were reaching out to big tech companies to uh deboost and deplatform any content the the administration didn't like.
• 44:48
  You know, the infamous Murphy versus Missouri litigation.
• 44:51
  Yeah, well, they're saying we can't use the money to do that, but it's only the money in that appropriations bill.
• 44:59
  Now, the the bill, HR 8595 actually names uh what was originally called the election integrity partnership, um, which was later renamed the virality project.
• 45:11
  Um basically things like the the global disinformation index, news guard, all of these anti-free speech organizations, the speech police organizations, and says uh that federal funds cannot flow to programs designed to impose legal, regulatory, financial, reputational, commercial, or political costs on American tech companies, social media platforms, online intermediaries or digital publishers for hosting First Amendment protected speech.
• 45:39
  Well, again, um the First Amendment, you know, I love what they say, First Amendment protected speech.
• 45:45
  Uh, first of all, the First Amendment only protects speech from congressional infringement.
• 45:51
  Congress shall make no law uh regarding the establishment of the religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech.
• 45:58
  Uh so yeah, this this whole First Amendment is again a bit of a of a canard, because what you call First Amendment protected speech is only protected by from Congress, not from others.
• 46:10
  But this is a federal legislation, so it would deal with federal funds.
• 46:14
  So that's about the only link they have to actual um actual First Amendment language.
• 46:21
  Now, don't get me wrong.
• 46:22
  I believe under the First Amendment that the federal government, the Congress could cannot pass a law that allows what the Biden administration did.
• 46:30
  The Biden administration violated the First Amendment by abridging free speech rights of others because they didn't like the speech.
• 46:38
  They were acting with funding from Congress, they were acting under the auspices of Congress executing laws.
• 46:44
  Um I don't the only thing I have here is it's dependent on the language of the executive order.
• 46:50
  But still, if the idea is no, you cannot use federal funding to deplatform, demote, and otherwise harm people for the speech that they use.
• 47:02
  I'm okay.
• 47:02
  I'm okay with that.
• 47:03
  I just uh I'm not sure about using the the language of an executive order as the content of the bill.
• 47:12
  Uh next, I want to look at another subpoena.
• 47:15
  This is interesting.
• 47:16
  The Department of Justice issued a grand jury subpoena.
• 47:20
  All right, this is a scene not simply from the Department of Justice, but from a grand jury uh that was formed under them.
• 47:26
  Uh the subpoena is for records from the Fulton County elections uh system.
• 47:32
  Um it was issued back on April 17th.
• 47:35
  It requested the names, positions, residential addresses, email addresses, personal phone numbers of all individuals, including county employees, contractors, volunteers, and temporary election workers that were involved in the 2020 election.
• 47:49
  That's right, the election that simply will not die.
• 47:53
  Now, remember, a couple of months ago, the FBI raided the Fulton County election hub building and seized over 600 boxes of a records from the 2020 election, claiming uh deficiencies or defects in their election records, as well as inconsistent vote counting and uh and others.
• 48:14
  This is according to reporting on the topic.
• 48:16
  They claim there are 18,000 missing ballot images from the records, uh duplicate and pristine, meaning never folded absentee ballots, unsigned and mismatched tabliered taped for hundreds of thousands of ballots, and serious chain of custody failures in the risk limiting audit.
• 48:34
  Now, of course, Fulton County is challenging the subpoena.
• 48:38
  They claim that it's grossly overbroad, politically motivated, and intended to target, harass, and punish uh President Trump's political opponents.
• 48:48
  Now, is there a some political heat in here?
• 48:52
  No, is there a political I'd be surprised if there wasn't.
• 48:57
  Human nature, right?
• 48:58
  You went after my guy, we're gonna go after you and your guys.
• 49:00
  After you and your guys, do they have evidence that it's more than just a political attempt?
• 49:01
  Do they have evidence that it's more than just a political attempt?
• 49:04
  In other words, do they have uh evidence from the the audit that uh there were chain of custody issues, that there are missing ballot issues.
• 49:04
  In other words, do they have uh evidence from the the audit that uh there were chain of custody issues, that there are missing ballot issues, there's questions about some of these absentee ballots, that there are problems with the tabulator tapes.
• 49:14
  There's questions about some of these absentee ballots, that there are problems with the tabulator tapes.
• 49:20
  If that is evidence, then the fact that it's a political opponent going after you means it's not just a political attack.
• 49:20
  If that is evidence, then the fact that it's a political opponent going after you means it's not just a political attack.
• 49:28
  There's evidence of some.
• 49:28
  There's evidence of something real going on.
• 49:31
  That's why, again, this is a subpoena, uh, not a warrant.
• 49:37
  And uh, it's one of the reasons why.
• 49:38
  Well, why didn't you get a warrant?
• 49:41
  If you've got probable cause, if you've got evidence of this, that would establish probable cause.
• 49:46
  That would justify a warrant.
• 49:49
  Why not?
• 49:50
  Interesting question from my standpoint.
• 49:53
  You're claiming evidence.
• 49:55
  Is it just, well, we're going to start with a subpoena?
• 49:57
  If we don't get our subpoena, we'll get a warrant.
• 50:00
  No, no.
• 50:01
  I would think they based on what they described, they look like they have probable cause for a warrant.
• 50:07
  Um, but it be it's just a political hatchet job.
• 50:13
  It's possible.
• 50:14
  Um, because let's face it, government has never been known to hide information from the people they claim to represent.
• 50:22
  Never ever, ever happens, right?
• 50:24
  Well, uh, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin uh claims he has emails showing that personnel within the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were aware of Freedom of Information Act requests and sought to evade them.
• 50:41
  Now remember, FOIA, Freedom of Information Act.
• 50:44
  This is the law that uh means that the government employees have to not only retain certain records, they have to make them available to the public.
• 50:54
  This is important, right?
• 50:55
  Because they work for the public.
• 50:58
  The government works for the public.
• 50:59
  They are public servants.
• 51:01
  Everything they do in related to their job is for the public and as their employers, we have every right to know what they're doing.
• 51:11
  FOIA codifies their process by which you gain access to this information.
• 51:17
  And when government actors actively try to avoid FOIA information, either disclosures or records, well, then there's a problem.
• 51:28
  For example, in a in a what seems to be an exchange on November of 2022, the uh between uh a Mr.
• 51:35
  Lale, a medical officer with the CDC, who asked a colleague about receiving safety analyses of the COVID-19 vaccinations from the FDA.
• 51:46
  A uh uh Mr.
• 51:47
  Morrow, an epidemiologist of the CDC, responded, quote, I think that because of FOIAs, we may have asked FDA to stop sending these weekly data mining outputs.
• 51:59
  Wait, you don't want this to become public knowledge, so you've asked them to stop sending the data.
• 52:04
  And Lale responded, oh, interesting.
• 52:09
  There's also allegations that Ms.
• 52:11
  Lale said that during calls for the programs, the CDC managed programs, uh, said we used to just verbally mention that certain terms had not triggered safety signals or signs vaccines were causing problems.
• 52:23
  But we could also leave it out of that information that creates more hassle.
• 52:28
  Meaning we knew there was a problem.
• 52:30
  We intentionally communicated only certain ways to avoid it being on the record so it could be gotten via a FOIA request.
• 52:40
  In another email chain, uh FBI officials were told by an FDA vaccine safety uh expert uh that the approach they were using to analyze the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines was faulty.
• 52:54
  And of course, this sparked a rather long discussion and uh uh a request that uh they contact outside experts on the matter.
• 53:05
  One official said before we potentially reach out to A, we should meet internally many considerations not suited for emails.
• 53:15
  Oh, we want to talk this face to face so it doesn't get on the record.
• 53:20
  Now, what does that say about what they were doing?
• 53:22
  What does that say about what the information we were told about the uh COVID-19 quote unquote vaccine, the faked MRNA-based uh vaccine?
• 53:33
  And what does that say about the state of our country?
• 53:35
  Where are we now since uh Justice Thomas has been on the bench?
• 53:40
  I'd say we've had some good things and some bad things, and uh the bad things are still going on.
• 53:48
  I'd say 34 years and what do we get?
• 53:51
  Well, I don't know.
• 53:53
  I think we got some good, some bad, and some really ugly.
• 53:57
  The question is, what are we gonna do about the next 34 years?
• 54:00
  Are we gonna the people going to take responsibility for our decisions?
• 54:04
  Or are we simply gonna let things go the way they are and hope that this time it'll all work out better?
• 54:12
  Now, I recommend that everybody read and study the constitution.
• 54:16
  Why?
• 54:16
  Well, it helps us know what our rights are, it helps us recognize when they're violent, it helps us to defend and assert them.
• 54:23
  But a lot of people get intimidated.
• 54:25
  It's why I wrote my book, the Constitution Study, restoring the constitution to we the people.
• 54:30
  I'm sorry, returning the constitution to we the people.
• 54:32
  It's not do just that.
• 54:35
  It's my clause-by-clause study of the entire Declaration of Independence and Constitution, so that everyday Americans, if an 18th-century farmer could understand it, a 21st century American should.
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  So we all get to read and study and understand the Constitution, understand the different roles of the roles of different branches of government, their limited limitations, their powers, and our responsibility, especially as citizens in these great 50 states, the ones that are allowed to vote for our representation.
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  Now you can find it wherever books are sold.
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  Of course, you can find on an Amazon, or you can go to the website, constitutionstudy.com/slash shop.
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  If you buy it there and you'd like a signed copy, I'll be more than happy to do that as well.
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  Not just bringing to this radio program, my videos, my articles, even my ability to speak in other organizations at other events.
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