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Bears LEAD NFC NORTH after another crazy win against Vikings · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, what a victory, the Bears beat the Minnesota Vikings in Minneapolis, 19 to 17 with the last second 48 yard kick by Cairo Santos that Benus fitted them from a drop passes that they had and the Vikings, all right, the Bears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the Bears drop passes with the Vikings passes
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[SPEAKER_02]: where a lot more costly, and this could have flipped the other way, had JJ McCarthy, and I say, JJ McCarthy had a good game, but had his receivers held on to the ball, and that's what the bear is getting to interception.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this, again, fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not come here to ruin your evening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's look party at Alex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here was a lack of cardiac in the situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears let the game for the majority of the game to the viking score to touch down within the last half of the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the figures, the bears have now built in the resilience that they've given themselves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They, I think they provided it to us with us knowing, well, they could probably come back and win this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then Devin Devin with one helping out richer heights out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Devin Devin with a kick return for 56 yards, which basically if Cairo Santos can nail it, he did miss a kick today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he could nail it, the bears win the game and the bears were successful Alex, just preliminary your thoughts on this bear's victory in many athletes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's kind of poetic, really.
1:28
[SPEAKER_00]: When you think about how this season has gone and how this season started, I mean, this was almost a repeat of week one, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Monday night football, bears, looking good, JJ McCarthy, looking bad, and they're cruising to what should be a victory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and then what happens?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They stall out, they can't maximize all their chances, they can't do this that in the other thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: JJ McCarthy comes up with the clutch fourth quarter drive to win the game and the bears loose, right?
2:04
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears loose and okay, I forgot a key detail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot a key detail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What starts this Vikings rally?
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[SPEAKER_00]: in an uncharacteristic chirocentos mess and uncharacteristic chirocentos mess started that rally in week one and then once again I mean chiro is having a down here there's no two ways around I am a chirocentos I think that he is a good kicker the fact that he can't hit from 59 60 61 yards doesn't bother me because typically he is money from 50
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now, but now, you got to admit, he's having some struggles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little sidebar.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, Cairo Santos miss starts by King's rally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yadayada, yadayada bears crumble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the beginning of this Owen two start and people are freaking out in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In between then and now, the cardiac bears have found ways to win.
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[SPEAKER_00]: they have started to live in the know which was something that I heard last week I think for the first time and and thought I missed her and I was like do he mean to say live in the now but it's no the bears are trying to live in the know K and O W at a K in front of now you get no that is to say
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know they're going to make a play with the game on the line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know that somebody is going to come through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know that they can execute in a clutch moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They know if they have a shot in the fourth quarter, they can win the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have started to live in that know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The game nearly follows that exact same script from week one, but they show everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: we are in the middle of of changing things around here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We are on the up and up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a new football team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not the Maddie Refleuse Chicago Bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like some people were wondering in week one when they crumbled.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, this has been Johnson Chicago Bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb Williams is developing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a new team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: we can erase those mistakes and we can still win football games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought it was like a truly poetic when to kind of summarize the difference from the bears now just a few months after the start of the season when it was when it was really disastrous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't like the fact that you mentioned that they were Owen too because I don't think we think about that ever since they went on this this run They've only lost one game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it was a terrible game against the Baltimore Ravens since their MVP of the march-ax Yes, man, that's the ill Just at least and it is funny in that game
4:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that will play out somewhat in this game referring to the mobility that's new puntly displayed.
4:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought we were going to get that from Jason McCarthy because that's how he closed out that victory at the beginning of the season versus the bears with scrambling to get into the end zone.
4:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And knowing that that has been a weakness of the bears when you think about will happen with Jackson dark, just recently, and that James McCarthy was basically contained but really didn't really try to be honest.
5:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It was more of he didn't try to get out the pocket.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it was game plan or again, if the edges were set and he didn't have a way to get out, but a lot of the time you've just seen the quarterbacks have been coming up through the gaps that are open.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you mentioned Caleb and when you were talking about
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[SPEAKER_02]: their ability does a sexy, particularly in a fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And after the game, he was talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've talked about this at Nazim, the fact that you don't really have that fear of we can't pull this off like this now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think sometimes we're waxing poetic when we're saying it, but it's true now where like, yo, this is what we do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, our heart rates,
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[SPEAKER_02]: get go lower now compared to other teams one because they are not in the situation as often, but also other teams know that we are the best team in the league when it comes to back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't refer to the bears when it becomes before four to comebacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know like that's what they do like you know that's on the board now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that we want to be up by multiple scores.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they've still come back from that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we want to be up because they have this ability and they've shown this propensity to be able to pull this off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bears quarterback Caleb Williams was 16 to 32, which is funny because I was the same for JJ McCarthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, for $193R 0 TDs, zero in exceptions, a QBR of 68.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ran for 26 yards on four cares.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just to give you Digi McCarthy's numbers, as we were talking about them, I mentioned he was also 16 at 32, $150, passing 1 TD, 2 intersections.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the nation and of course Kevin Byrd again for getting back there and getting those turnovers and a QBR of 47 said QBRs We're not QBR today Alex your thoughts on the bears quarterback Caleb Williams performs but also at the tail end of that perhaps James McCarthy and his his growth or lack there of so far since he's come back from injury
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I thought Caleb outplay, J. J. McCarthy, but you know, it didn't look great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both quarterbacks, as you mentioned off the top where we're hurt by drops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, DJ Moore drops in easy pass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we saw my double catches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Durham, Smith dropped a first down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Luther Bird in drops of big catch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Jordan Addison had drops.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just Jefferson dropped a ball like when Justin Jefferson has dropped in the football.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know something is is a rye.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in my group chat help see if you can help me come up with some more of these we are in the group chat coming up with these this game had more drops than six flags great America.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This game had more drops than a Scrillex concert just being had more drops than an apple
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you got any more from me, can I?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't last one show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't have I wish you would have you got to send me this earlier Yeah, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I put you on the spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but also because I don't I don't know if they had a barely clean as yours So I'm just gonna leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna touch it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's no reason for me to touch it all right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep this PG if you know it's such a good game a day There's no reason to give blue
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, it discuss anything here because my drafts was going to probably take a turn to maybe the secular and I can just I could just leave it all I could be a better person.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned Caleb's play and the fact that he didn't have his best game to bears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For the first time this year initially had two three announced and then they finished out up with a third three and out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the first quarter basically right there without getting out in your office and to a rhythm already series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I know he started off slow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I felt compared to other games with his slow start.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was more meat in the middle of the game than there were.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that they, that, and of course, he Cairo missed the field goal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know a lot of those drives ended with a field goals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But still for them to be able, let's look.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a punt, they had the bears had a punt, a punt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a touchdown, a field goal, a punt, a field goal, a punt, miss field goal, punt, field goal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a, that's, you want more scoring, particularly you want more touchdowns, but it wasn't a drought as there had been, where perhaps, and this is what kind of hurt them, which has been their best part, the first 15 scripted plays that usually can kind of get something going,
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[SPEAKER_02]: The bears have been on such a streak of scoring on the first drives at the beginning of this season, something they never did for years in the past.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't become spoiled, but the thing was, it showed me that even with Star Enough Slow, Caleb can kind of get to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always going to be mad at Caleb for holding the ball because that last one, he almost gave up
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, yards, how far he was when the bikers defender was coming and trying to tackle him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just also it makes you think about the descriptive plays you're leaving a lot out there on the field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're there plays out there where you're leaving a is one, two, three year rid of all, but look, you are I wonder kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got two sacks after almost sack and hit my four times, which is all is so crazy is ability to break free from being from being held or clutched.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I also like his body language.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I it to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, you got to be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like he's taking on a much more, I don't know if I want to say taking on much more of a leadership role.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I want to say stepping into it because the quarterback is usually forced into that situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it'll be funny to see how the team goes with a couple of losses and I want them to lose.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But can they rally or do they rally with him?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his talent alone is going to benefit him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it'll be interesting as time goes on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I wasn't mad outside of holding the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of like this game today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want more completions, of course.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But there were too many drops out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he did have some errand throws.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there were some throw.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But not like JJ McCarthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: nothing was like Jason McCarty, we like that, that would I would say that will be concerning for me with that receiver tandem or in that tight end, if you don't have the quarterback and you let Sam Darnell and believe me, I understood why you, I understood but I wouldn't have let Sam Darnell probably walk.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have probably tried to get two years with I would have tried to give him the biggest geno deal I could possibly give him right and then hope that maybe JJ could take the job in a season and then I could either trade him for something you know like I wouldn't have just said JJ used to make guy JJ was injured from the virtuality in last year but again
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still, like, I think he made some good anticipation throws that didn't often, didn't always, I should say, didn't always lead to completion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I did, great completions, the one to Durham Smith that was a really good completion, like, that's a really good ball going through his progressions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where you're seeing him go through his progressions and hit the open guy, like, Durham Smudsman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Durham's my first sure as in his first breed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty confident saying that though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then like, you know, there was a third downplay that I have starred here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a third and three.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's targeting Luther burden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a great throw made with great anticipation where, you know, the balls out as he's making his break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's throwing to a spot where Luther is going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just a better defensive play, you know, the coverage really good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It turns into a PBU.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that goes as an in completion, but that's one of where you tip your cap to the defense, you know, like, hey, this this was a good offensive moment, but the defense was just a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still kind of think that there is an issue with the offensive line here, even though the offensive line in the middle,
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[SPEAKER_00]: is improved.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got questions to tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know I've said it before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just don't know that Theo Benedict is the long term answer and a lot of the rhythm of the offense and the Caleb holding on to the ball too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's turning into, it's because he's needing to be Superman at times, you know, is because he's got pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now some of this is probably on him where he's missing a blitzer, missing an assignment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are certainly instances I would wager where it's on Caleb Williams that a
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[SPEAKER_00]: but he's had to do that spin move that he's mastered so well a bunch because I think he is getting pressure before he can finish going through his reads and then he needs to hold on to the ball and extend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I think the time to throw might also be increasing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the time to throw is increasing kind of inorganically, not in the same way that you would typically think of a ball of a quarterback holding onto the ball too long.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his time to throw is probably increasing because he's spinning out and extending so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, yes, some of that is not good, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That you want to be in the rhythm of the offense, but I think some of that is also his super power.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not I'm not here to like throw flowers and say like oh Caleb Williams was lights out was a man he's amazing this that and the other thing But I think he did a good job of Before eating the big mistake There was not and I didn't have any moment where I was like, oh, dude, what are you doing with that football?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Which we had been doing earlier in the season where he was having these boneheaded throws or you're like dude, what man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor decision probably should have held onto that or gone somewhere else
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you did a good job of avoiding those big mistakes, so that the team could stay on track.
15:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, in the red zone, I don't know, again, like we've only seen this on TV, the red zone execution is still not there, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They only scored one touchdown out of three red zone trips.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is allowing these teams again to continue staying in these games when they basically be putting them away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I want to jump on what you just said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Another problem is,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're allowing these teams to still be too trick-police.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, in doing that, the Vikings ran for over 110 yards combined between Jones and Mason today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're allowing them not to put the game on a JJ McCarthy, which you really want to do on this type of situation, particularly when JJ McCarthy isn't playing well, but as receivers are dropping balls left and right, it's forced them to go into a passing situation for the remainder of the game, because the scores too high for them to
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[SPEAKER_02]: take too much time off the clock running the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where it's like, yo, you guys have to particularly within the red zone start to score this ball to simplify this game for you particularly knowing that your down line may can't get it done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this would have been a great game for Dennis Allen too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do not say he didn't use this pressure, but to be able to just use his pressure for passing situations because
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[SPEAKER_02]: the running game would be negated because the score was too high.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This would have been a terrific opportunity, but I have something else I want to say about the play calling, but I don't want to cut this off if you had something else you'd have to go ahead.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy how conservative Ben Johnson was this game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: like I like the fact that let's just get out of here with a victory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah you you want to see you want to see and I'm not I this is how I feel you want to see the offensive mastermind not over indulge with his wickedness.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you know what I'm saying like I could do this but I know we could lose this game like I love the fact and it's like the second Bayesian out at wide out play yeah yeah and you know it was like I know you're not about to run a trick play it was like dude I know and it's like and it's good because we talked about this once you get these trick plays on camera
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you saw initially how it forced them to be vanilla.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Grand flora is one of the better defense coordinators.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To go vanilla, not knowing what the hell Beijing's going to do out there was going to be some flea flicker madness or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the game where a lot of guys maybe we would have tried to throw the ball and just stick it to the run to get to the field goal was just like, dude, like, at that, I enjoyed that from Ben Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Ben Johnson called a pretty good game today and helped his offense, security victory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I think there are things that we, I think we've alluded to them already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are things that his offense can do particularly with Caleb holding on to the ball to late.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you mentioned this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there's an issue with the opening it and it's throwing the offense off, but we still we still can apply percentages to it because we still don't know what Caleb looks like consistently with instruction, you know, like it'd be different, let's look at last year, let's just say Caleb has always played well as structure right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we start to see the live right down and he has to be Superman due to the live right down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would give us a mean to be able to be like, yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look how he played last year and look how he's playing this year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm bringing this up because I want to ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do when Braxton Jones is healthy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you look at this, we talked about, you know, definitely when it comes to the past, and I'm saying Braxton Jones is some Marvel past rush swallow you up pancake left tackle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But on the flip side, in the run game,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You see that, you know, Theo Benedict is a muller and the gaps that are open on both sides compared to, looks like sometimes when Braxton is there, the run, you're running usually off a guard tackle, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where this gives you the benefit to run off both sides.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What would do you think you would do or what do you think they're gonna do when Braxton Jones comes off IRLs?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I imagine the Theo Benedict is.
19:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't really thought about it much just because I kind of assumed that Theo better was going to get a long look, but there's something to be said about the bears.
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[SPEAKER_00]: getting another look at Brexon Jones fully healthy because I don't think he was ever really fully healthy coming off of that ankle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Coming off of the ankle this summer I and I got the feeling that he was never 100% really and I do think that Brexon Jones is good in the run game, but you're right it's a little bit different right we saw kind of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Inside hole opening up between Joe Tuney and Theo Bennett, there was one plane particular that they really highlighted that there were like, there's two and a half yards in this hole here, right?
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have seen Theo Bennett get up to the second level and be blocking guys down field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Braxton Jones is also very good on those wide zones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when they can get outside wide of Braxton Jones and they're able to get down
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think you can run some stuff behind Braxon Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might just look a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think no matter what, the bears need to once again be looking at an offensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's without question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're just like really, really work in as
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[SPEAKER_00]: on the left side and individual drills like we're at the time of the year where like it's the first team that is getting the reps in practice so there's not a lot of time for azithra pillow to get like meaningful reps at left tackle right with that first him offense but an individual drills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know he know I just don't know but it's like azithra pillows a guy who you try to left tackle and all of a sudden you moved him back to the right side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I simply don't know, I simply don't know, but I would, I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the thing, because Brexon Jones is in a contract here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be a free agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and there's no reason Jones is going to be a free agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to bring him back to be a swing tackle?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would he settle for it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody will give him a chance to start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: someone will give him a chance and he should take that because he can always end up as a swing tackle.
21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have to downgrade himself.
21:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though I think we both believe he's probably best suited to play via premium swing tackle.
21:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But as a starter, no.
21:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the thing where you're talking.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And when he says I've had it in my head and I was like, I'm going to save it and this will be the show that I'm going to drop it.
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and you, but you kind of got to some of them.
21:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned that Bradford Jones is a free agent and probably now you're saying that going in the next year without a draft pick, I think you're pretty low and Theo Benedict will be the guy is trying out for luck, right?
22:06
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you would think.
22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, before I jump on that, we saw how it seemed like, hey, Darnell, you need to get going, right, and that fire burned under him and how he jumped out.
22:19
[SPEAKER_02]: One, do you give Braxton Jones a chance with a quick hook?
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you know what will put you out there and you know if you play well as long as you plan where we'll keep you and then of course if he gets some games in consistently we've heard you know coach Rose R. Say you know some of the failings in him going back to some of his battle habits if he can consistently play in the style that they're bringing in that they've been Johnson what's the toughest of lying in the play you can use him for this season all right this is what's been on my mind something
22:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Darnell Wright has been balling out of his control right now you want to move him over I'm just asking you.
23:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't this is football then let me say that this is where football it Neptune takes place right?
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Because no because usually in an office if you get if you got a guy just really playing right well right and it wasn't like I know he they moved him around Tennessee but this is where he earned his stripes as far as why he got drafted in the first round
23:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you just see all right like during training camp?
23:26
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, it's not a we're going to really keep them over there But but now that you know he can play right at a premium level Do you just see if he can play left pretty well and that way then you could have Ozzy and Theo fight it out for the right side, which is usually not being a quarterback's blind side and easier side to defend For tacos, not saying tacos easy whatsoever
23:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But your thought as far as, do you just see during training camp maybe a free season game if Darna or Wright can move if let's just say how the draft board falls out that you can't get a quality or guide the kind that you find quality in the first or second just like Trayvon Henderson seemed like he was going to be to pick in a second round and then the Patrius jumped up and drafted him and that's why I perhaps with the rumor
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not my plan A.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not my plan A to move Darno over there.
24:25
[SPEAKER_00]: My school of my thinking on it is you have a guy who is now as you as you said he is now starting to look like the guy you drafted at right tack on was playing right tack on a really high level and I know you like had a whiff or two today, but like nitpicky the guy has been really good right Darno has been really good.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I would prefer, if I'm the head coach from Chicago Bears, I would prefer leaving Darnell right at right tackle and having a premium right tackle instead of love average left tackle and an above average right tackle.
25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of where I'm at now in the India.
25:09
[SPEAKER_00]: ever going the ever long search for the best five, right?
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: This is all in search for the for the best five guys up front.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's where things get weird and where you might consider darnal right on the left side.
25:25
[SPEAKER_00]: If you say darnal right is a and I am making numbers up right now.
25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
25:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm making numbers up right now.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get mad at my numbers.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: If you say darnal right is a nine at right tackle,
25:38
[SPEAKER_00]: but he's a seven at left tackle.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And you say Theo Benedict is a six at left tackle but he's a three at right tackle or whatever.
25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
25:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you take the addition of the numbers.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You put the numbers together.
25:58
[SPEAKER_00]: If you say Darnell Wright is a nine at right tackle but a seven at left tackle.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But you say Theo Bennett is a four at left tackle, but he's a seven at right tackle now the number right that's where the numbers makes sense, so that's how.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I think holistically you look at it.
26:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's holistically how you look at it.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I think the plan A should be Darnell Wright is playing at a nine at Wright Tackle.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's leave them there.
26:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with another nine at left.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm with you.
26:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like right now, guys are hitting more old tackles coming out of college.
26:41
[SPEAKER_02]: They may not be Hall of Famers, but they're sturdy enough to guys that
26:48
[SPEAKER_02]: top into the second round.
26:50
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys haven't been flukes, you know, you have your one hospital, haven't been flukes.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say, use your draft capital to go do that, but there's only so much you can do, particularly because you still need a past rush.
27:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to get on this, talking about the line, but also talking about receptions.
27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: with the tight ends today.
27:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the tight ends really stood out today.
27:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Co-comment was five targets for five receptions for 45 yards and the bears needed that so long along for 14 to heat off.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Co-comment was out there, both of them, but co-comment was playing old school tight end today.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh, you wanted, you want to try to tackle me?
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be in the trainer room after this game.
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Coastal Lovelin, four targets through receptions for 40 yards along.
27:32
[SPEAKER_02]: of 24.
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And you saw them in 13 with three tight ends out there and how they took advantage that with the run game.
27:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But also, it's Mike, one of had two receptions if you had his first one, but he ended up dropping it.
27:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But you saw the offense and I think that's one thing that we've talked about when they got in the situation with coast and leveling.
27:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And play again 12 with two tight ends one right at back, but then you see the benefit of what Big Johnson can do in these large packages, but I think we've not seen an Aussie shirt right quite a bit as extra blockers Well, they bring him in a bunch
28:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
28:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, these are the things where, and I know it's kind of, but when you have an offensive minded hit coach, and they always want to show you their wizard tree through, I'm just going to pass through the air.
28:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But as you said, Jumbo Packaging, to ensure the run, to ensure that we can get the first down or to touch down, that was the things that you see in the reasons why we always were Ben Johnson guys.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, shout out to the Titans, your thoughts on their play today.
28:31
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they played, I think they played pretty well.
28:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I had people tweeting at me like, what is Durham's smile out there?
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, these good run blocker.
28:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and again, I kind of want to underline what you're saying about Ben Johnson and the quote-unquote conservative play calling.
28:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this would have been a game where it would have been really easy for him to get away from the run.
28:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would have been a game where it had been really easy for him to get away from the run, but he remained dedicated to it.
29:01
[SPEAKER_00]: This was almost like, I don't want to say final exam, because it's not a final exam, but like this was the biggest test of how dedicated to the run are you going to be Mr. Johnson?
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know it is easier when you were ahead rather than playing from behind, but I mean, the run game flat out was not very effective.
29:18
[SPEAKER_00]: How many young guy 12
29:23
[SPEAKER_00]: The Andre Swift finished the game with good numbers 21 carries for 90 yards 4.3 like that's fine that's where you want to be 4.3 but let's be honest it was not there until the end of the game when he started getting those chunk plays at the end of the game right I mean early on he was getting stuff but then he started getting like 8 9 11 8 6 like
29:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He really came on at the end.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He really got that stuff.
29:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, that is a dedication to the run game.
29:51
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not working for us.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It is not particularly effective.
29:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But we are going to continue going to it with the game on the line.
29:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And then just one more thing about this isn't necessarily conservative play calling.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, but along the lines of like Ben Johnson's mindset.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Managing the game a road game like this, right where things are getting hairy.
30:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it says a lot that he
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: put the game in Cairo Santos' hands after the, whoa, is it, 45 yard miss?
30:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he did not lose confidence at all.
30:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Devin Duverne helps a lot with that big return, but they didn't throw the ball after that.
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, after that, they were like, okay, we are right here.
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: We are very close to field goal range.
30:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We are not putting the ball in harm's way through the air.
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: We are running the ball,
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: with a field goal attempt, right?
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And and saying we are putting the game in our kicker's hands, even though he just missed his last attempt and played a role in us being in this position in the first place.
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: not being shy saying we still have all the faith in the world in Cairo and and Cairo then coming through and saying okay yeah that last miss was not great but whatever onto the next kick and I think Cairo has been very good at that throughout his entire career is onto the next kick and uh and right I mean like Ben Johnson did not get shy did not say okay we need a score touchdown here or we need to we need to get super aggressive
31:29
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, let's run out this clock and we are ending this game with a field goal attempt.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it shows a lot of faith in the kicker, even after the miss.
31:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You're kicking these be able to kick a 60-hour field goal that today's NFL.
31:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say that, but something you just said, I think I think this will help anybody watching or listening to us when you think about something.
31:50
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to give props one of the Bryan Flores, right?
31:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Because just having this discussion and opened up, we talked about, and of course, we're watching the game, and for a lot of the game, I think Tom Brady did a good job.
32:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he shouldn't be able to be a owner and do a good job, particularly the amount of money that's like that's, again, I'm sorry.
32:06
[SPEAKER_00]: It just got a crazy, he gets a lot of insight information from doing that job out of information.
32:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And it seems still a stretch.
32:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I want to say this.
32:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We mentioned that Theo Bennett, Bennett and Jonah of Joe Fruttoni, how the gap, how wide the gaps were, right?
32:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And you said that there were some whiffs were down there were right.
32:26
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you think about the game and we haven't went back in Washington yet, but just I want you to think about this.
32:30
[SPEAKER_02]: how many blitzes were coming off of the right side?
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And particularly, and one thing we think blitzes a lot, we think of blitzes for passing downs.
32:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But no, you're going to have particularly Brian Flores.
32:45
[SPEAKER_02]: He's blitzing on rundowns because the bears are the second best team in a league in rushing the football.
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and what we said earlier about JJ McCarthy, I want Caleb to be a
32:56
[SPEAKER_02]: he's able to get away with stuff because they're able to run the ball.
33:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can start to take the runaway, perhaps I can get an advantage of one, he's going to hold a little ball, I know it's hard to bring him down, but he's going to give us a chance to get him, you know, and also there are gaps in their paths for reference to the bears.
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: So those guys get paid too.
33:16
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, you're
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, so like, well, sometimes we're like, they didn't run, and this isn't true.
33:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, in general, we'll run the ball, will.
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because the other team's not trying to let them run the ball.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: When I said the bears were doing an ineffective job running the ball.
33:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yes, the minutes are to fight things that a lot to do with.
33:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and think about the thing about how many runs we've seen this year come off of Jonah Jackson and Darnell, right, and they stay, they went after that this game like like with that won't be that those gaps won't be there for you and a lot of the runs that that The Andre of course you know they went off to let there are a lot of up the guts runs what's they have been doing this year, but there are a lot of the up the guts runs and shout out to the Andre Swift
33:57
[SPEAKER_02]: for the type of running he's been doing this season.
33:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's been, he's been running rugged.
34:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And you ask what you want to see with someone who's viewed as a speed merchant.
34:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like put your nose in there, get greedy and get grindy with it.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And even though Kalmanung, I didn't have crazy yards, he was, he was the bowling ball that he's been since he's joined this team out of rockers.
34:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, your kicker does, and this in the field, needs to be at the kick 60 yard field build.
34:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just one of,
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: put that at some point like you said it's funny and we will do this today.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll go over this later on in the season, right?
34:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: you don't want to have a situation like what happened with Robbie Gold anybody too young to remember Robbie Gold some people say it was a locker room a lawyer he was a big time bet right and one of the greatest kickers in various history um and he had it down year and they got rid of him too soon right he ended up going to the 49ers and maintain getting back to what he was before and having a Hall of Fame career I'm sure one day
34:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Depends on how this goes with kickers and because you know because some of them are going to jail That's been viewed as some of the great ones or you know, I'm joking I'm pretty sure he single-handedly beat the bears in one of his revenge games like 15 to 13 He kicked five wrinkles and single-handedly beat the bears so insane that to your point You don't want to throw the baby out with the baffle I refer to Cairo Santos because you know
35:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I see C.R.
35:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been outside of that.
35:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He's automatic, and this is because it's been down year, and you let him go, and then he goes somewhere for the next three years and misses only two kicks, two field goals, and you're like, damn, why did I just give him a set with him with something that type of situation, where I want to put that, but we will go over that later on in the season.
35:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything on offensive side you want to do before we take the defensive side to jump up out of here?
35:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's talk defense real quick.
35:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Where was the test effect?
35:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a PBU, he had a pressure.
35:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, just kidding.
35:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on this, just because he wasn't on a, on the stat sheet doesn't mean we didn't have a test effect.
35:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see, let me find 98's number.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know I wrote down, okay, all right, here we go.
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Second, second series.
35:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have to go that far.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: D2, second possession.
36:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It was 3 and out, 98 pressure leads to 35 TFL.
36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: He's helping CJ Gardner Johnson, right?
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He's pressureing ball comes out.
36:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the play exactly.
36:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Ball comes out.
36:11
[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Gardner's right there.
36:12
[SPEAKER_00]: TFL.
36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Tez effect, baby.
36:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That CJ Gardner's doing his best at.
36:17
[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Gardner got Johnson gets the stat, but that's a fact.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Tez effect.
36:22
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the fact.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: How about the big piece he used?
36:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I must think he'd be playing.
36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I love one.
36:27
[SPEAKER_02]: The female is not.
36:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, but the thing is this, I'm not mad that you're not getting
36:34
[SPEAKER_02]: The pressures are an issue, it particularly when you're single-dub.
36:38
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they'll be honest with you.
36:40
[SPEAKER_02]: When you're supposed to be him, you're supposed to be a double team with two every now and then.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: If we're being honest with you.
36:46
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're being him.
36:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But I really, I have to nick you because Nick you a little bit because I know everybody likes it.
36:52
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't go back before.
36:54
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't just all be some flowers and lollipops 247 on here or whatever, but I did want to say something about somebody that popped to me today.
37:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Great at year had one of his better games, but collapsed in the pocket.
37:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was a couple, there was a couple times he put that guard.
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: in or center in the lap of JJ McCarth.
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, each, you altered the pass or he like that, that right there, there were times that the Jerry Grady Jerry show why they brought him in and needs to be more consistent.
37:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope it's not father time called his ass.
37:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see as the season goes on, of course, he started the season of injured.
37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're right.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm
37:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He finished.
37:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I just looked at him.
37:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He finished again with two tackles in a cuby hit.
37:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He had the pass break up Yeah, not not the most Tessa games all the time, but you know, I'm I'm kind of kidding around, but he does affect the the play sometimes Many dozen shit, but yeah, he didn't have the second and have the first fumble.
37:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have the big the big run stop We didn't see the big big moment You need him to be a borderline trouble
38:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not even borderline man the way they're panelling they need them to be a pro player You need them to be a pro ball like for and I don't I would to me We would see here because we we will everything and all the nice things and say like if he was like leaving the league Or let's just say he was top four and pressures right he has to get him yes to get him even though that's hard And now that what it used to be
38:26
[SPEAKER_02]: with McCourt back mobility and also everybody's got a candidate near and wrist action right the balls are coming out but he needs to be at that level so that it will open up more pressure opportunities for his other four down linemen and that's just something that we have to hardcore here until he pops so they brought someone else in to alleviate the fact that he's not getting it done in the fashion that I'm sure they desire him to get it done with a commiser with their
38:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: On the brighter side, how about the Chicago Bears ball hawks?
38:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so at the time of the Nishon right interception, this might not be true by the time you're listening to this, especially if you're listening to this days after re-record, there's a good chance it's not true anymore, but at the time of the Nishon right interception, I thought this was staggering.
39:15
[SPEAKER_00]: NFL interception leaders number one Kevin Byrd with five tied for second are three players at four three players are tied at four one of them is Nishon right the other remain admins and then the third is Devon Lloyd so out of the top four interception guys in the NFL three of them are
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Chris, that's only the key for the defense.
39:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
39:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, like, he's kind of having like that year that digs had with the Cowboys where he was like kind of getting torched a lot.
39:49
[SPEAKER_00]: But also kind of intercepted a lot of passes.
39:52
[SPEAKER_00]: It's reminding me of that where yes, okay, he's going to give up some catches, but you you have to give props to the athleticism.
39:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's obviously, you.
40:02
[SPEAKER_00]: like athletic guy like Nishon Wright play maker who's only playing because Jalen Johnson is hurt and And has has really helped out in a lot of moments if he doesn't intercept that ball That's probably a Jordan out of some touchdown.
40:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh So it wasn't not right.
40:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do a lot of jobs
40:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't even just this, but even with his height, how he had to stretch to get that.
40:28
[SPEAKER_02]: My thing is this, and we talk about just a second ago with playing up to your contract, right?
40:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's keep that theme here, right?
40:37
[SPEAKER_02]: This guy was going to be your fourth.
40:40
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, and I look I love the fact that you use digs because that is definitely where this is that and like I can't get mad He's not him, but he's playing like something up with him And I mean in the positive sense like he's not him, but no, he's out here He's out here altering games consistently, so yes, he gets burned and everyone gets burned and it's me one
41:26
[SPEAKER_02]: right, but he's out here all three games and one of the main reasons this defense has anything to write home about, which that is another thing where it's like, what?
41:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It can't provide Jason asked me this week, various players who I thought could be pro bowlers.
41:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I said, uh, darn it right to me.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: right, and I said, buyer and Edmunds, right?
41:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a thiner doubt, right?
41:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And you hit that one with right being right there, a stuck at number two, also, time with number two.
41:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that with a woman, and I say, he's gonna be a promo.
41:57
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not what we're saying.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're just saying that him being able to play as a super sub.
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[SPEAKER_02]: at this point, and what he's able to do, I hope Tyre Stevenson is able to play, he didn't get back into the game after him in Brister, Collided, trying to break up a ball, that it looked like, one of them, it looked like Tyre was going to be able to intercept.
42:18
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, anything else you want to say before we get out of here?
42:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we got some, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, I mean, he's so talked about it, I guess.
42:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I said to go ahead, who's your gay ball going to?
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be unpopular.
42:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going with the captain, Cairo Santos.
42:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know you were.
42:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know you were.
42:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I mean, the miss was bad, right?
42:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And it started at Vikings rally.
42:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That is without a doubt.
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was three for three before that.
42:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And then with truly the game on the line,
42:54
[SPEAKER_00]: you know throws it away, squeaks the game winner in there.
42:59
[SPEAKER_00]: When we're looking back on this season five years from now, we're not going to remember that that it got a snuck in that golf post there.
43:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just over.
43:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he hit a game winning kick and he did.
43:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's that's big time.
43:11
[SPEAKER_00]: That's big time to shake that off when the football game and shake it off the the previous miss.
43:17
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I got to, I could split it, but I'm going to be generous.
43:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned one of them, Grady Jarrett being Grady Jarrett.
43:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You need your three technique to be the penetrate or pick that guy up and put him in the quarterback slap.
43:32
[SPEAKER_02]: He was doing a lot of picking up and putting the day at least saw it several times at this game.
43:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Other one, they don't get the win probably without this, even though they are fourth quarter darlings.
43:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Devon do Renee with just 56 yards because we were going to be talking crazy about around how high towers put team I mean because price price price got to but one the guy cool back So like that that right there.
43:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Josh black well with the running into the kick now is a little bit It was tough because he like the guy had to like move forward to catch the font.
44:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's another one Where it's like man the bears nearly had him pinned deep
44:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But, and then you give that, you give them yards right there.
44:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Martin, your extra points of the Alex.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: My extra point, I am back to talking about USC athletics.
44:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But this time, I'm talking USC basketball, specifically, Jazzy Davidson.
44:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, juju walkins.
44:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Please put up, lick out of the world.
44:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, it was amazing.
44:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Let up of the world.
44:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, like, it was such a shame last season, like it was really tough last year because it felt like last year was legit.
44:47
[SPEAKER_00]: The year.
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: The championship, yeah.
44:49
[SPEAKER_00]: The championship last year.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Please make the side of the game.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.
44:53
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, juju was playing great.
44:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Keiki area fan like this is the year with Keiki.
44:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They had it kind of go on on and then obviously juju walkins.
45:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Tears are ACL.
45:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really tragic.
45:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Yadi, yada, yada.
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a little bit down.
45:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Getting ready for this USC season without juju walkins.
45:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But here comes another freshman phenom, jazzy Davidson.
45:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also, she's doing a little bit of everything, right?
45:22
[SPEAKER_00]: She's distributing, she's rebounding, she's scoring, she's playing good defense.
45:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I know USC lost the game Cox.
45:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to, I'm not going to hold anybody to task for losing the GameCox.
45:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They have been the class of the, of the sport for many years now.
45:40
[SPEAKER_00]: You, I know how Kenneth feels about Dawn's daily, you know how I feel about Dawn's daily in the GameCox.
45:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to love a lot of love the GameCox, great team.
45:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So, no problem losing to the GameCox.
45:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, hey, okay, Jazzy Davidson are the Trojans back.
45:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm really looking forward to the next year.
46:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Jazzy and Juju and Juju and Juju.
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And Juju has something to prove.
46:04
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a chance if Juju Walkens graduates early.
46:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what her progress is towards her credits to graduate from USC.
46:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably won't though because the women's basketball.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And with the NIL, you make so much money staying in so right, staying in school.
46:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Realizing the rate of the diabetes.
46:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
46:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
46:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
46:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so if Juju Watkins stays because she won't be old enough, she needs to graduate.
46:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Y'all, I am, I am all of a sudden.
46:32
[SPEAKER_02]: You're kidding if you're kidding if you're kidding if you're kidding if you're for a fight because do, let alone if she pops again next year, the NIL and then the only thing is this, we don't know with the WMBA CBA coming up this year, how much that that will increase their salaries and make that more attractive perhaps for players, not to say, but at the level that jujoo is her NIL deal,
46:58
[SPEAKER_02]: has to be in the top five and the women's basketball easily.
47:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say, easily, right?
47:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see it.
47:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So even though we got to get out of my extra point, Ms. Go Celashia's draft, a QB draft.
47:10
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it, Drake may sit at the top right now when we break these guys.
47:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb is right now at number two.
47:16
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to see a healthy, jade and Daniels.
47:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Bonnex.
47:20
[SPEAKER_02]: is Bonyx.
47:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But the guy that I want to talk about, and I take, I don't smile when I'm saying this.
47:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Michael Pinnock's junior.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm Michael Pinnock's winning was in college at Indiana.
47:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked him when he was at Washington.
47:38
[SPEAKER_02]: my always fear was his body and his knees.
47:42
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd had a knee bruise, bone bruise rather, and he went out today versus Carolina, and they had to bring in Kirk Cousins, which I wondered why they'd entrated him and then hit me, I was like dumbass, because they noted that their quarterback can go out.
47:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he doesn't have a serious knee injury, but it's just one of those things, and it was interesting.
48:04
[SPEAKER_02]: When they made that selection,
48:06
[SPEAKER_02]: with his injury history when they had already given her cousins that money.
48:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but again, hey, maybe you need two quarterbacks down there in nature.
48:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but anyway, wishing that he heals and is not a serious injury, but it's just one of those things where you, you will help a player.
48:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's healthy, but when they have injury history like that, you're, you're asking a lot for them to come into the next level and not have an injury move before.
48:30
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that is it for us here at the Winni City Podcast.
48:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Alex Shapiro, I'm Kenneth Davis.
48:35
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you this week as we discuss the bear's upcoming game.
48:39
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if they're gonna face Aaron Rogers in that.
48:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, versus the Pittsburgh Steelers.
48:43
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll find out sometime during this week.
48:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I always appreciate you taking a little bit of time to see her with us and talk some bear's football.
48:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Make sure you tune in again this week and again after next week's game versus the Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you.