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5-01-26 Hour 1 - Nugs choke in Game 6 & get bounced in Round 1/Worst Case Scenario/Chris Finch's fake motivation · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Shannon has it right side of the mid court circle,
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  Speaker 2: guarded by Murray, kind of crouches down.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna let go one on one.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna go iso.
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  Speaker 3: He gets the paint, leans.
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  Speaker 4: In left handed, lay a good filog under. Hey, here's
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  Speaker 4: your off pitch by Jamal Murray. Go one on one
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  Speaker 4: an attack him.
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  Speaker 3: Shannon right side over to McDaniels.
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  Speaker 2: McDaniels working against Jamal Murray.
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  Speaker 5: Whoever Jamal's garden, that's where they're going again. Yeah, don't
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  Speaker 5: first up and in.
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  Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. Shannon had Christian Brown on him. If
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  Speaker 4: Canna has had Jamal and they just kicked it over.
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  Speaker 4: This has been a night to forget for Jamal Murray
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  Speaker 4: on both ends.
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  Speaker 2: Jeffer's not gonna fight and that'll be it. The Denver
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  Speaker 2: Nuggets will lose Game number six to the Minnesota Timberwolves
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  Speaker 2: and get.
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  Speaker 3: Bounced out of the NBA Playoffs in the.
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  Speaker 2: Very first round final tonight from Minneapolis, Minnesota one ten
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  Speaker 2: Denver ninety eight.
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  Speaker 3: Where do you feel like this team is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in that bigger picture? And how far away or not
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  Speaker 3: far away?
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  Speaker 6: Do you feel like you guys are from being you know,
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  Speaker 6: a championship contender.
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  Speaker 7: I mean they're just lost in the first round, so
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  Speaker 7: I think we are fardy.
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  Speaker 3: Do you feel like changes?
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  Speaker 1: I like, what kind of change?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, that's not from me, my decision to be honest. Definitely,
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  Speaker 7: if you're in Serbia, it will get fired.
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  Speaker 8: All right, I'll be honest. We've made a promise to
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  Speaker 8: you guys. People have listened to this show that no
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  Speaker 8: matter what happens, whatever we say is the truth, and
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  Speaker 8: I will do nothing less than shoot you straight. The
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  Speaker 8: score was ninety eight ninety five. Minnesota was playing poorly.
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  Speaker 8: The Nuggets were trying to make a comeback to win,
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  Speaker 8: and I said to myself, I'm I'm God's honest truth.
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  Speaker 8: Strike me down if I'm lying, I said, don't. I'm
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  Speaker 8: I'm being honest. I'm kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Glad it's over.
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  Speaker 8: I couldn't go through another two and a half hours
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  Speaker 8: of being pissed an entire gaming. I couldn't do it again. VIC,
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  Speaker 8: I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I'd seen enough. I agree with you. It's been a
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  Speaker 3: whole season of that. How do I describe the season.
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  Speaker 3: I've described it the same way all season. It is
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  Speaker 3: a laborious season.
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  Speaker 8: Laborious and that that game felt like every game this season,
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  Speaker 8: it really did.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, unable to take that turn, unable to keep the lead.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if if you want to listen to
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  Speaker 3: this show this morning to get you know, hyped up
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  Speaker 3: for optimism and all that business, we'll do that with
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  Speaker 3: the ABS. At some point, I suggest you turn the
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  Speaker 3: channel because that's not gonna happen this morning. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: not there, and I'm sure you guys aren't either. I
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  Speaker 3: just can't come to terms with a couple things. A
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  Speaker 3: nugget season with so much promise, A nugget season where
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  Speaker 3: the roster was, on paper, the best roster this franchise
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  Speaker 3: has ever seen in the NBA. We all said it,
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  Speaker 3: top to bottom. We thought that this roster was a
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  Speaker 3: championship prost and the season ended in April. It ended
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  Speaker 3: in April. I never thought I'd see this team this
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  Speaker 3: season end in April. They couldn't beat Minnesota when they
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  Speaker 3: were up nineteen at home. They couldn't beat Minnesota when
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  Speaker 3: McDaniels questioned their manhood. They couldn't beat Minnesota in a
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  Speaker 3: game in which they lost the Wolves their starting backcourt.
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  Speaker 3: They could not beat Minnesota in a must win game
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  Speaker 3: in which two key players couldn't play hours before the game.
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  Speaker 3: What else can you say? Vic?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think there's much more to say. And we
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  Speaker 5: talked about this ad nauseam throughout the course of the season.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, you know what we did now that I
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  Speaker 5: think back on it, Fig, this was this was me
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  Speaker 5: to you, and I guess I subconsciously did it like
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  Speaker 5: every week or maybe once every week and a half
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  Speaker 5: two weeks. It was a vibe check. It was a
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  Speaker 5: vibe check on the Nuggets, Vic, we feel and how
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  Speaker 5: we feel? You know that. It was a vibe check.
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  Speaker 5: And you know what I never did. I never felt like,
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  Speaker 5: for god knows what reason. And there's a multitude of them,
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  Speaker 5: I suppose, so pick one. I just never believed. I
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  Speaker 5: just never felt like, Yeah, they've got something cooking. I
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  Speaker 5: just never felt that that that groove, that vibe like
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  Speaker 5: we have before, this particular bunch of guys, this particular team.
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  Speaker 8: Can I explain why, please the way I felt that?
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  Speaker 3: Sure?
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  Speaker 8: Because Nelly. Actually I have a terrible memory, but I asked, Nelly,
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  Speaker 8: I go, was it after the Memphis game that they
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  Speaker 8: lost against all of those backups where I went to
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  Speaker 8: the well of the succession quote from Logan Roy where
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  Speaker 8: he says, I love you, but You're not serious.
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  Speaker 5: That had to be somewhere in the middle of March someplace. Yep,
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  Speaker 5: it was.
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  Speaker 3: What was it, Nelly, March March eighteenth was the game.
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  Speaker 5: And I love you but you are not serious people.
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  Speaker 8: It sticks out in my head for this reason because
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  Speaker 8: there was a moment last night, and a moment moments
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  Speaker 8: throughout the series and moments throughout this season where this
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  Speaker 8: just proved the difference, because that game last night was
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  Speaker 8: not about talent. You were far more talented than the
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  Speaker 8: depleted Wolves team that you saw on the floor last night.
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  Speaker 8: Jokic earlier in the game, nos Reed thinks he gets
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  Speaker 8: an and one. He doesn't get the call. He gets
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  Speaker 8: in Jokish face and barks at him. Yokic looks at
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  Speaker 8: the ref and goes this, it's not a technical and
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  Speaker 8: the ref basically looks at him like, dude, it's playoff basketball.
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  Speaker 8: People are gonna talk trash, which I'm fine with, totally cool.
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  Speaker 8: Later in the game, this nobody that I've never heard of,
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  Speaker 8: Jalen Clark is battling with Jokic at the top of
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  Speaker 8: the three point line. They kind of get into a scuffle.
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  Speaker 8: He gives him a little bit of shove. Jokic goes
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  Speaker 8: up to well. He first looks at the ref like,
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  Speaker 8: is this not going to be a technical either? And
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  Speaker 8: the ref was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 8: And I thought at first Jokis pushed him.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't.
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  Speaker 8: He went to go kind of like grab him and
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  Speaker 8: get into his face. But then Clark fell over and
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  Speaker 8: immediately naz Reid, along with everybody else wearing a black jersey,
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  Speaker 8: came up, gave Jokic a shove and got in his face.
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  Speaker 8: And for seconds, I'm watching that scuffle and I'm going,
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  Speaker 8: where's the white where's the white jerseys? And I saw
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  Speaker 8: about half of a Tim Hardaway junior jersey in there,
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  Speaker 8: And I want to give you, guys the difference on this.
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  Speaker 8: That is your star player, that is one of the
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  Speaker 8: best players in the world, and I didn't see anybody
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  Speaker 8: coming to the defense after he was shoved almost to
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  Speaker 8: the floor. Minnesota had the back of a guy I've
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  Speaker 8: never seen play before in Jalen Clark, and all of
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  Speaker 8: them went over there. That's competitive spirit. That's the stuff
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  Speaker 8: you were talking about after Game two, VIC, when people
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  Speaker 8: took your stuff out of context instead other things. That's
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  Speaker 8: being competitive. And this team had none of it. None
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  Speaker 8: of it.
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  Speaker 3: Everything I said, I mean, listen, you can you can
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  Speaker 3: mince words the way I said it. Everything I said
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  Speaker 3: was true. Everything I said was true. The lack of grit,
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  Speaker 3: the lack of want to, the lack of physicality, the
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  Speaker 3: lack of aggression. Let me ask you, guys, this teams
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  Speaker 3: talk so much about culture. Which culture looks better right now,
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets culture or the Minnesota.
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  Speaker 8: Minnesota it's the only it's the only way Minnesota could
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  Speaker 8: win is through that. Like that's and that's the truth.
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  Speaker 8: I hate to go to the old trope of they
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  Speaker 8: just wanted it more. But god if that's not an example.
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  Speaker 5: But here's let me let me expand on it to
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, they only played eight guys last
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  Speaker 5: night in Minnesota because they could only play the guys.
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  Speaker 3: And who else did they have?
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  Speaker 5: I know, well, I guess we could have had a
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  Speaker 5: Joe Engle siding like we did a couple of games ago.
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  Speaker 5: Game four was it? I don't know, but you know
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  Speaker 5: what I felt like that entire game. Not only were
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  Speaker 5: the tea pups flying around because they were because they
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  Speaker 5: had to, but boy, did it just optically appear like
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  Speaker 5: they were playing for each other.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it felt it felt like vin Yes when
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  Speaker 3: they walked in with the Vincenzo jerseys and you could
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  Speaker 3: just sense it. Man, that team was connected from the
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  Speaker 3: get go, up and down the roster and this season Nuggets,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a lot of reasons why, and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: go through everyone, I know, there's a lot of reasons
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  Speaker 3: why they felt disconnected Vic.
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  Speaker 5: But the guys are on the floor picking them right up.
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  Speaker 5: Two guys picking up you know. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 5: just it was like this constantly. They they had each other,
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  Speaker 5: not only in stoppage time, but on the floor they
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  Speaker 5: had each other. It just seemed like a very like
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  Speaker 5: they had this awesome camaraderie and the Nuggets were just
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  Speaker 5: completely a bunch of individuals out there just doing individual stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I Mean, it wasn't exactly like that, but that's the
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  Speaker 5: vibe that came through the TV for me. The entire game.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, the seven freaking dudes thing that they had a
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  Speaker 8: few years back. Yes, like that stuff matters, Yeah, it matters.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking about this rolling around in bed, just
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  Speaker 3: trying to think how the season ended. Sock.
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  Speaker 5: I rolled around a lot too last night, so did Brandt.
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  Speaker 3: And and one thing that came to mind. Remember that
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  Speaker 3: that feeling of dominance that the Nuggets had over the
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  Speaker 3: Lakers for what a good three years, that no matter
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  Speaker 3: what the Lakers tried, they had no solve for the Nuggets. Thus,
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  Speaker 3: the Lakers daddy, Minnesota is the Nuggets daddy. Because the
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  Speaker 3: verse is true. That's that's how it feels. That's how
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  Speaker 3: the other side feels, right, and that's how the other
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  Speaker 3: side feels.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a fun feeling.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not a fun feeling. But let me tell
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  Speaker 3: you something. And I just can't get over this. The
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  Speaker 3: fates gave you a path. They gave it to you.
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  Speaker 3: They said, here, I don't feel bad. Here.
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  Speaker 5: They gave you a path.
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  Speaker 3: To move on to the second round. When they started
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  Speaker 3: just picking off random players on the tee Wolves roster
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  Speaker 3: and saying you can't play, they gave it to you,
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  Speaker 3: and you gagged you know. You know the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: Talked about it last night with the Marlow and Dempsey
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  Speaker 3: watching the Denver Nuggets and why I said it felt
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  Speaker 3: laborious all year and you saw it come to fruition
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  Speaker 3: last night.
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  Speaker 5: This team looks old. They really do. That's another. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: they look like it seemed like the Tea Wolves were
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  Speaker 5: just flying ship so much.
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  Speaker 3: More.
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  Speaker 8: Shannon Shannon alone, that guy like the kokie who got
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  Speaker 8: scolded by his coach.
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  Speaker 5: They look started and played thirty five minutes and scored
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  Speaker 5: twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: They lookt and I know they're not. I know they're not,
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  Speaker 3: but comparatively speaking, in this series, they look slow. Man,
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  Speaker 3: I I you guys, tell me I think this roster
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  Speaker 3: we thought it was so good. That's what. It's a
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  Speaker 3: wee problem. I'm not it's all of us because we
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  Speaker 3: looked at this roster and said, wow, they got everything
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  Speaker 3: they shooting. You know what, they don't have athleticism because
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  Speaker 3: they're two best athletes. Unfortunately, in this series, the two
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  Speaker 3: guys in hindsight that they could least afford to lose
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  Speaker 3: to match their athleticism sat in street clothes.
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  Speaker 8: True, and unfortunately, the the only guy that I think
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  Speaker 8: would be your dog on this team. I mean, it
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  Speaker 8: could be Valentiunas, but they didn't want to play him.
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  Speaker 8: They did for a second. He was bad when he
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  Speaker 8: did play. Uh was ag like he is, he is
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  Speaker 8: sort of your guy. Now, let me say this real quick.
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  Speaker 8: There's gonna be a whole bunch of Adaman stuff coming
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  Speaker 8: in here. And trust me, if they don't have a long, long,
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  Speaker 8: long discussion at Ballerina whether he's gonna be here next
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  Speaker 8: year or not. And I'm not even saying that he
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  Speaker 8: should be fired or anything like that, but what I
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  Speaker 8: am saying is there should be a discussion. I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: how is this going to change if you do return here.
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  Speaker 8: I do think that there is a long discussion we
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  Speaker 8: had about Adaman. But what I'm getting at is when
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  Speaker 8: something like and I'm gonna keep going back to this,
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  Speaker 8: whether it's jokichen Clark last night in Nasred, whether it's
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  Speaker 8: Jaden McDaniels in game too, whether it's Lou dorton the
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  Speaker 8: cheap shot earlier this year, you don't need a coach
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  Speaker 8: to tell you to do something after a moment like that.
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  Speaker 8: That is something that's within you. That is a competitive
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  Speaker 8: spirit that should exist you don't need to tell somebody.
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  Speaker 8: I always go back to this most because it's the
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  Speaker 8: most recent thing. Nobody Bennard didn't have to tell Kulak
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  Speaker 8: go after somebody. They just took a run at the car.
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  Speaker 8: It's just something that's in and inside of you. And
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  Speaker 8: the fact that you had everybody on the floor last
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  Speaker 8: night without that sort of thing is really concerning to me,
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  Speaker 8: really concerning, because I think that's the difference that's Minnesota
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  Speaker 8: had that every single game this series.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me or I'm wrong here, tell me? And again,
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  Speaker 3: the autopsy is going to be ugly this morning. If
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  Speaker 3: you can't handle it, then you just can't handle the truth.
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  Speaker 3: And frankly, I don't care.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Vick, when we were kids, there was a show
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  Speaker 5: on TV called Quincy m D. You remember that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Quincy, let me let me just go through my autopsy.
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  Speaker 5: No, he used to cut people open.
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  Speaker 3: That was I don't care.
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  Speaker 5: I don't care about the your Quincy.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me tell me what you think about this?
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  Speaker 5: What now?
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  Speaker 3: I forgot what I was gonna say. You're talking about
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  Speaker 3: the autopsy. They were out athletic in this series, correct, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were out hustled in this series. Correct, Yes, they
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  Speaker 3: were out egoed in this series. Correct, they were out
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  Speaker 3: coached yep in this series. What part of this series
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  Speaker 3: did the Nuggets even win? I know they won two games,
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  Speaker 3: but what what did they win?
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  Speaker 8: No? Nothing, like I I can't point to a single thing.
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  Speaker 3: I really can't.
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  Speaker 8: And I know that's like, that's bizarre to say, especially
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  Speaker 8: for a team that had so many guys out. But
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  Speaker 8: it's a great question. You got out rebound, You got.
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  Speaker 3: Outbounded fifty to thirty three second chance points most, which
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  Speaker 3: is the definition of hustle right second chance points twenty
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  Speaker 3: to four in an elimination game.
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  Speaker 5: Vic Let me let me expand on that real quick too.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when I look at the rebounding last night,
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  Speaker 5: the amount of effort expended by the tea wolf to
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  Speaker 5: just bang a ball out just you know what, if
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  Speaker 5: you can't get your hands fully on it, bang it
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  Speaker 5: to the perimeter. The amount of vic vic, the amount
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  Speaker 5: of want to last night, even on those rebounds was significant.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're right though, it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was absolutely noticeable all game long.
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  Speaker 3: Brett, Brett, you are right. As much as I wanted
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets to win in the season and move on,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, you still pull for your team. They're
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  Speaker 3: your team, they're your boys.
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  Speaker 5: I do.
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  Speaker 3: I was hoping that Jamal makes a wide open three.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want Jamal to clank one off the side
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  Speaker 3: of the backboard. Yeah, I wanted them to come back
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  Speaker 3: and tie the game. But deep down, I'm like you,
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  Speaker 3: deep down, when they're trying to get back into it
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  Speaker 3: and they're down ninety eight ninety five, I came to
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  Speaker 3: a realization. It just hit me. I'm like, what's the
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  Speaker 3: point here? They're gonna get tattooed down the st if
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  Speaker 3: they win this game. What's the point where are they going?
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  Speaker 3: What is this? Wait, they're gonna magically just turn it
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  Speaker 3: on for san Antonio and Okse all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: they just change their stripes and they become hungry again.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, we know the answer.
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  Speaker 8: Like, here's the thing, man, Like, let's say he did
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  Speaker 8: come back and win, and we're talking about Game seven
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  Speaker 8: happening this weekend at ball Arena. I'm dead serious. I
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  Speaker 8: would have come on the show with an attitude today
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  Speaker 8: still if they came back and won, I just would
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  Speaker 8: have been like, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: If they had won it? The buzzer, Yeah, if they.
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  Speaker 8: Wanted the buzzer, and it's like, hey, we pushed to
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  Speaker 8: a game seven. I'd be like, what was that game
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  Speaker 8: last night? What were you guys doing well that you have.
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  Speaker 3: The same feeling in game four when they lost everybody
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  Speaker 3: or game when you got your when you got your
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  Speaker 3: man who questioned in game three and nobody did anything? No,
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  Speaker 3: That's why game three was so prominent to me.
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  Speaker 8: It was just like, if you can't respond after that,
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  Speaker 8: then you just aren't built right, y, aren't hey?
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  Speaker 3: So can you hang on to it? Hang on to
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  Speaker 3: it for a second? Sorry, we're already over. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Plus plus, here's the good news. The Avs are moving on.
• 17:25
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• 17:27
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• 18:04
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• 18:06
  Speaker 8: Getting in the building for game one, whether that's Sunday, Monday, whenever,
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: because that is I mean, we just got done playing
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: Minnesota and guess what, we're about to play Minnesota again.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: What a night on a different night surface, What a
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: night in Minneapolis, Saint Paul. Let me think about how
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: electric they advanced by beating Dallas in a game six
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: and then they advanced by beating the Nuggets in a
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: game six, all in the same area. Unreal, unreal night
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: for them. Yeah, and here we are, hey, guys, given
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: this autopsy that we're performing today, and it will it
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: will go on for the next two hours and forty
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: five minutes. I'm gonna go through the roster and we're
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: gonna go through changes being made. But I'll let you
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: know right now. Changes are going to be made, whether
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: you have designs on them or not, because this current
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: rendition of the Nuggets is not coming back. It can't
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: come back. Fiscally, it cannot come back. So whatever you're
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: looking at on paper right now, which you saw last night,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it's going to look different. How far you want to
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: take that remains to be seen. Now. I I'm not
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: trying to be reactive here, but I'll ask you, guys,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: how crazy do you want to get? Do you think
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: the core of this team should remain intact?
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Vic I'm starting to question that heavily now. Especially Look,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: I've got to look at AG and I've got to
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: look at the past couple of years in the way
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: his body has let him down. I don't question the
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: heart and the want whatsoever, but I question that his body,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: for whatever reason, the miles have caught up pretty quickly.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: That makes me incredibly nervous. Jamal Murray was an All
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Star for the first time this season.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: He had his best season in the pros.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: He certainly did. But when I watched him last night, Dude,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: I watched so many shots that typically guys make that
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: were not going in and Jamal missed a ton last night.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: And I know what happens, but this whole series was
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: not playoff. Jamal well Jamal at all.
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: Let's be honest here, Jamal hasn't been playoff Jamal. Since
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: they won the title. He's been inefficient in the playoffs.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: There have been moments and I think, I think we
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: get we have these memories of him hitting, like a
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: couple of game winners against the Lakers were like, what
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: do you mean he's been good? Now, he's he's hit
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: some big shots. He has not been good in the
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: playoffs since then. But to me, Jamal in this series,
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: first of all, huge credit to Jade McDaniels, who, my god,
• 20:41
  Speaker 8: was he amazing in the series. I mean he played
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: so he played forty five minutes. Last night, Jamal Murray
• 20:46
  Speaker 8: was not allowed to take a step without Jade McDaniels
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: getting a hand on him somewhere, and that bothered him
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: and I think it forced Jamal. It made Jamal frustrated
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: because he couldn't get an open look and then he
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: started to force things, which didn't help either.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I want you to think about this for a second.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: They were missing their top three guards, including a superstar
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: guard in Anthony Edwards. So Edwards was out, DiVincenzo was out,
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: and Iodasumnu was out. Just out of left field. He's out.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: He was still playing when we were doing the show yesterday.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: So the combination of eighty year old Mike Conley and
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: twenty one year old Terrence Shannon Junior, who had started
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: twelve games, that combination outscored the Nuggets thirty two to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: what fifteen their back court versus the Nuggets backcourt thirty
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: two to fifteen. Right there is where the game was lost.
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Vic, We've got a look at c B here. His
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: a new deal is kicking in the next season. He
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: had outside the one killer dunk, the whole series was
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: pretty abysmal. And I think what you're looking at here
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: overall is that in the postseason, your best players have
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: to be your best players, and too many underperformed.
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, you asked the question, Vic, how much
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: do you want to do this offseason? I hate to
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: say it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you can do.
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: Nobody's taking the AG contract from me. That's what nobody's
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: taking CB from you.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: You aren't. He's got a poison pill provision that contract,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: so you're not you're not coming off that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: What's the what do you mean, what's what's poison pill?
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It's if you trade them, you can't trade them at
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: the value next year. You have to trade them at
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the value this year, and you'll never get enough in return.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: It's no no, I know.
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: That's That's what I'm saying, Like, there's no getting off CB.
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: There's no getting off the ag contract. Nobody's taking that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: With how many games he's missed, you you aren't gonna
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: be able to re sign Tim Hardaway junior. You would
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: have to do a lot of maneuvering on this roster
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: if you want to try to afford Peyton Watson in
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: the off season. You don't have assets like picks coming
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: up anytime soon. You don't really have young players outside
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: of maybe at Dron Holmes, who seems to be a myth.
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: Right now, you're you're in a bad spot.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Two of your next first round draft picks, like they
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: own their first round draft pick this year. After that,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Oklahoma City happens to own their first round draft picks.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Like they have no second round picks.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Those are all gone, And.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: So you're like, all right, so a Texas says, blow
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: it up. You want to waste the I mean, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: don't know how much longer this prime is gonna last
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: for Yo kicch. But you want to waste a couple
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: more years trying to rebuild this thing while he's turning
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: thirty two, thirty three years of a pick.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the worst case scenario right now. They
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: made a run this year. That's why this roster and
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: these results are so tough to stomach because when they
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: assembled this bunch, this group on paper, we all said it,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: this is their best team, better than their championship ruster.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Did we not say it? Yeah? Did we all say it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that we're all on
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: the same page. We all said it before the season started.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Before the season started, they answered everything. They had everything
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: they needed. They had the backup center, they had the shooters.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Finally they had the grit. They brought the grit, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: they had everything. Were like, okay, they're set. And last
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: night they walked off the court and you said to yourself,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: what the hell is that? Uh?
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know. And this is where
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: you're in such a pickle. It's just I don't know
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: where you kind of go from here. And not to
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: be honest, there's a lot about last night that like
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: here's here's what's bizarre. The one guy has been getting
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: crushed along with Christian Brown. The one guy's been getting
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: crushed was Cam Johnson. And he was flat out fabulous
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: last night, Like he was as good as Cam Johnson
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: could have been in that game. And it felt like
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: if you had literally one other guy, one other guy,
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: then that game is different. But here's the issue, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: c B is a big problem.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Vic.
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: There was twice in that game where I wanted to
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: throw things. CB drives the lane. He's got maybe one
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: guy in front of him at the rim, but he
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: does that. He takes cuts in. Jokic gives him the
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: feed that we've seen a thousand times, and every time
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Christian Brown gets that opportunity, he tries to jump over
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: the top of three guys in dunket and he dribbled
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: the ball back out to the three point line with
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: like five seconds left on the shot clock. We had
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: heave up something terrible that one the other one was
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: And this is what's most bothersome to me. Nuggets get
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: a turnover. They're trying to battle their way back in
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: this game. They're in transition. Hit Christian Brown in transition,
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: which he was the best transition player in the league
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: last year and he fumbles the ball, bumbles the bulls
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: leads to a breakout the other way at the top
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: of the key in Minnesota gets a free bucket O. Right,
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: So that stuff is insane to watch with.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Let me address Christian. Let me just start here. If
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: if the ankle was truly an issue, and it may
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: have been okay because he didn't look like he had
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: the same pop and he had to play through it
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: this season, If that was truly an issue, okay, then
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: what's what's he playing? Why is he playing? If if
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you're not the same player and you can't pop, okay,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: well there's no who else plays in that situation. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the roster and I'm saying to myself,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: what did the Nuggets lack in this series? What was
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the issue? Why did they not look like the nugget
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the offense? Right?
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: They missed shots?
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Play Julian Strather start Timmy play. Julius Trouther was a DMP.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: Like I'm not even kidding when I say this, and
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: it's gonna sound harsh, doesn't matter, It's the truth. C
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: B was he was unplayable, Like he was unplayable for
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: multiple stretches in this series, like that level bad, couldn't defend,
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: couldn't give you anything on offense, And I'm just sitting
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: there and I'm so with you.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: VIC.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: And the fact that Adalman said after game five, you
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: know what's the difference? He was, well, we used our
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: depth and then it became no depth.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Not in this game.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna play him for two minutes. If they're bad,
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: then they aren't going back on the floor. I don't understand.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: I don't get it. Like, here's what's bizarre. When did
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: the team, Hey, let me do a VIC at least
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: test and see if you guys.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Okay, this is where you already answering your head, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: you're gonna ask us a questions, so we screw up.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I will know the answer.
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: When did their offense look at its best during that game?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: When did their offense in the third quarter when Joker
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: went to work.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: It's when Tias Jones was on the floor.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he opened things up when the buyout guy.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, when he was on the floor, that's what it
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: looked as Beast.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I thought the same thing. I was like, wow, wow,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you know Tias Jones came in. I'm looking at the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: plus Minus's funny you say that Tias Jones was the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: only diver Nugget with a positive plus minus. He was
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: plus five on the night. You're so right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: The offense worked with him, and I'm just like, what
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: is this watching He was better than Jamal?
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Well is it?
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: It's look, man, Jamal was bad, really bad, But that
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: is at least a big credit in Jaden McDaniels guarding
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: him every second, every step he's on the floor, like
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Tias Jones didn't have Jayden on him when he was
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: in the game.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know that this show has taken a
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: lot of punches from our thoughts on Jade McDaniels, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I will say what I said even the day we
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: were talking about him, even the day we used that
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: verbiage that seemed to offend Minnesota fan and the softness
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: up there, that dude's a dog. He could play on
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: my team any day if I want one of them.
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: If they had an MVP for this series, because you
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: know they do it Conference championship in the finals, he's
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: the MVP.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: He was both emotionally physically last night. This kid goes
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: out McDaniels. He says something to rile up the opposition.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: He takes all kinds of heat. When he comes to Denver,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: he is serenaded with booze every time he touches the ball,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: and he goes out. Last night in what felt like
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: a must win for them, he plays forty five minutes.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: He plays more than anybody on the floor. He only
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: rested for two and a half. He plays forty five
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: minutes and goes thirty two to ten and shuts down
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray. What else do you want him to do?
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I probably nothing. He made that one bucket on the
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: perimeter with Jamal Or he sort of faked a little bit.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Jamal I thought it had pretty good defense, and he
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: just knocked it down right over him, and I'm like,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: oh boy, this is it. This is it?
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: Can I use Vick, let me use one of your terms.
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: You're gonna be proud of me for saying this. You
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: know what, Jade McDaniels is indefatigable.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I used that last night on the show. Jess.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, he truly is exactly what I called him
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: last night. I said he is the most indefatigable player
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I've seen in the NBA. Because it takes a lot
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: more to play defense than offense. And this dude last
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: night not only defended to a ten, he was ten
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: out of ten defending, he was ten out of ten
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: offensively too. His thirty two points led the way for everybody. Yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: hey man, they own us yep. The Minnesota Timberwolves who
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: will go by the way. They're gonna get crushed by
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: San Antonio. But gon matter, don't matter. They own us VIC.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: But I've had to I've had to wrestle.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: With this, and perhaps this is why you were up
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: all night too. I've had to wrestle with the possibilities.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: And I let this creep into my brain only because
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: I realized where the Denver Nuggets are right now, how
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: sort of stuck they are, and Nikola jokicch being thirty
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: one years of age. I actually said to myself last night,
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: and I hope this isn't the case, but I said this,
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: maybe it may be it. I let that thought, I
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: let that thought creep into my head that you know what,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: this this may be it. Now again, I go back
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: to those awesome Avalanche teams when they first got to
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: town winning the Cup of ninety six. They didn't win
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: another one for another five years, and that team was
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: loaded with Hall of Fame.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: They were close to the differentis they got to the
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: but they got to the pressip right, they were right there.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: The talent was still overwhelming.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: That is correct. And what I'm not saying is that
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: is that there's an excuse for the Nuggets.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: It's just hard.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: But it's totally gonna get harder. Wemby and the Spurs
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: are only.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Gonna get better. Yeah, that's the other fact.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: Oklahoma City ain't going anywhere, Jack.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, Oklahoma City owns a thousand first round draft
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: picks and then the deepest team in the.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: West is only going to be more difficult from now
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: until the end of Joker's career.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: For Crods, San Antonio just getting started. Got a Minnesota problem.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I mean in the own division. There are two teams
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: that you can't beat right now in your own division.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know where the road goes. I don't know
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: what you do here. It's gonna take some hard decisions.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You're up against the repeater tax. Everybody
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: talks about bringing back Pee Watt and I'm gonna tell
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: you right now, there's no way. There's no way they
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: bring back Peyton Watson unless they trade a core piece.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't do it right now if
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: they wanted to, unless they have a big, huge piece out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: And that's assuming that somebody wants them this.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Much I know about the Denver Nuggets. This is what
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: my biggest takeaway from this series is this. This team
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: desperately needs to get younger and more athletic. Younger, how
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: do you do that? How do you get younger and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: more athletic when you've got Nikola Jokic and you could
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: see the writing on the wall and where it's going.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: How do you do that in the middle or towards
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the end of a career. How do you do that?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: How do you navigate that? It's a big ask. I
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: will say this.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I just it will be heartbreaking if this team goes
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: the way the Milwaukee Bucks, and it's going to be
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: it's going to be heartbreaking.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: That's the the other thing on top of all this.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: You know teams that needed to restart and and have
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: an INFUSIONI of youth that would rely on the draft.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: The Nuggets don't have picks. No, no, you're you're without assets.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I mean that too.
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: Reminder to you guys, it's a special Avalanche playoff ticket
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: Friday tickets to game one. We're giving away each show,
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: which would be Sunday or Monday. We don't know yet,
• 33:29
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• 33:32
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• 33:35
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• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Stick around all right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: I promise we'll get to the the Avs in Wild
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: because the Wild do win last night, we have an
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: actual opponent to discuss.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Talk about it is going to happen. We'll talk about it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: The battle against Minnesota continues. Uh, probably this weekend.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: When's that game gonna start? Went Hotner Monday. Hockey Vic
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: is ready to roll brother Sunday Monday. Yeah, I'm ready
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  Speaker 3: for there.
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  Speaker 5: We get we get one day to autopsy, will bury
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: the body, and then we're getting onto hockey.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I I told Croll last night, I am Hockey Vic
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  Speaker 3: right now, Okay, I need that you need to fix me.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: All right, Hey my mentals. You need to fix my mentals.
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  Speaker 8: Matt, Matt, if you need a h a surf side
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  Speaker 8: correspondent inside ball arena, like, I'll be your guy, man.
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: I'll be there double fisting for you all go on
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  Speaker 8: pre and post game, and that's what you need. I'm ready,
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: hockey threat's here.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: It's it's you now, it's it's the Avalanche. Sorry to
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: put this on your Avalanche. You have to defend Denver's
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: honor after what Minnesota did to the Nuggets. You you cannot.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: You have to defend the honor of this city. What
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: is the most positive thing you've ever done to help
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the Avalanche? Iced myself where in the bar? That's that's
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: you also ate snow that had spit and sweat. No,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I'll never do that again.
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: Well you said again, which means you did do it
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  Speaker 8: one time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you I some stuff and that was that was
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: a very positive thing.
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  Speaker 3: My presence was felt and it will be felt again.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, we're gonna get to we're gonna get to some
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: of that coming up here. But this is what we
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: have to do on this morning. We're gonna have to
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: just eat this. When you wake up and reality smacks
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: you in the face, you can run from it or
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: you can face it. And today we're going to face it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Can I say one thing? Motion and again We'll talk
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: to Kevin Falness at eight twenty. He does radio stuff
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: for the Minnesota Minnesota Wild so we'll get a preview
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: with him at A twenty. There's one thing that bothered
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: me from Minnesota, and I am here today. I give
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Minnesota full credit.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's massively impressive what they were able to
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: accomplish in the series, especially after watching your superstar leave
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: the game, watching Devincenzo who had his boot up in
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: the air all game, watching last night doing all that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: I give them full credit, and I think it's a
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: remarkable performance they put on.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: They wanted to win more. Yes, they wanted to win
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: this series more than the Denver Nuggets did.
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: Now we are well aware of Remember the kid from
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Georgia who was the number one team in college football
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: entering the season. They win the national title a couple
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: of years back, and the guy goes, nobody believed in US,
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: they thought we'd go five and seven this year, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: it's like, who the hell are you talking to.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: There's a guy from Georgia, Georgia Bulldogs, nobody believed in us.
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  Speaker 8: Doing the nobody believed in us.
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  Speaker 5: Then everybody had you with the top two zero year long,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: and it's like, man, you factured sort of whatever artificial artificial.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Motivation that everyone knows isn't real. But whatever you're gonna say, say,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I know where you're going with this. I know I
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: don't even have to finish this. Chris Finch shut up.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: The Nuggets weren't trying.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: To let me play the audio though, because when Chris
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: Finch said this, I'm just like what here's what he
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: said postgame.
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  Speaker 9: Guys, they took it personal. I mean, Denver had the
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: chance to pick who they wanted to play coming down
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: the stretch, and they chose us, and we use that
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: as a motivation all the way through preparation and through
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: the series. They chose us. They didn't have to choose us.
• 37:15
  Speaker 9: They chose us, and our guys were up for the
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: challenge of that.
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  Speaker 8: So yet he didn't just say that, sorry, Vic, just
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: one of the things. He didn't just say that in
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: the postgame press conference. This is them after they won
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: last night in the locker row, job.
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  Speaker 5: Hard way to bring it a jobs. They chose us.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Here we go, okay, just continued two things. Two things.
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  Speaker 3: I give them credit because coaches motivation is part of coaching,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and anybody who thinks not, you're clueless, agree you have
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: to motivate if you're a coach. Ultimately it's up to
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: players to execute. But part of a game plan, it's
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: not just x's and o's, it's not just strategy. It
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: is motivation, and sometimes that motivated is clearly artificial. Yeah, Chris,
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets desperately tried to play you so much so
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: that they rested their starters for the last two games
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: of the regular season. Forget that, by the way.
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, I know the resting the starters thing is
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: like so clearly anti what he's talking about, But let's
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: just go along his path here. Guys, they wanted to
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: play us so badly. They won twelve straight games at
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: the end of the year to do so. Even if
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: you wanted to circle a team to target in the postseason,
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: what are the odds you rattle off twelve straight at
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: the end of the year to do it. Cam Johnson,
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: by the way, said something about.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: That as players, you're always going to try to win.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: And if you're talking about san Antonio and specific we
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: have a group of guys that were playing that are
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: fighting for their careers, that are fighting for their lives. No,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: they're never going to lay down. It's It's not about
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: seeking a matchup for us, It's about winning the games
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: that come our way. But for everybody that stepped up
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: in that San Antonio game, I give them credit two
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: way guys, you know, guys that hadn't seen as much
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: planning time. It means something to them. The guys that
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: won that game, if we're talking about Santana specific, did
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: not have Minnesota on their mind to seek a matchup.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: They wanted to go out there and prove something for
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: themselves and prove something for the team.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Where was that mentality in the Minnesota series.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: I have no idea.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: You know, he just revealed love. I love that. I
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: love it. I love that. But I revealed a lot,
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: you know, playing for their lives, playing, you know, the scrappiness.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Like there are two Nugget seasons that showed me showed
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: me a lot this year. The Nugget season in January
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: where they were missing starters, where Joko was out, Allan
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Chuns was out, Cam was out, Christian Brown was out,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: everybody's out. That team that went ten and six in
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: January and scrapped and clawed and went to Philly and
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: one went to Boston and one that team was fun.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: That team, That team was young, fun and energy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: Where was that team, Victor's A Where was that team?
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know. It just seems like those.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Guys, well, those guys are the guys that are.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Buried right now. Okay, those guys aren't going to really
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: see the floor right now because your big guns are
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: out there doing their thing. That being said, look, I
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: would never question I'm not going to question the want
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: to or they're hard or anything of that nature. But
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: clearly there was Minnesota had an extra oomph, they had
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: an extra want, they had an extra dig they had
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: an extra whatever the entire series. That being said, Vic,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: where is the where is the want factor? The I
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: can't I can't lose factor when you've already won a title.
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: I'm just all of this plays into it. And even
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: if it's this much of a sliver, vict that factors
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: into a seven game series and in factors for the
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: for every series from that point on.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Mos I totally get it. You know, the Nuggets have
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: something Minnesota is not going to get this year and
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: they've never gotten. The Nuggets have a rank correct, The
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Nuggets are NBA champions. That that is royalty compared to
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Minnesota has nothing, and I think the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: reason they have nothing served as rocket fuel for that team,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: because it's all relative nothing. They climbed to the mountain top.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: They had it. The Nuggets are playing this team that
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: has absolutely nothing, and there's something is to beat you,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: and the Nuggets could not manufacture that same willpower. They
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: couldn't do it. They were motivated, they.
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: Were motivated by whatever they could get their hands on.
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: And it's still to me the most dumbfounding part of
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: this because again I'm not an NBA player. I played
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: a very low level, unsuccessful college whatever you want to
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: call it. But there's a competitive nature to it. And
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: I still am blown away way that there was a
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: member of the opposing team that said they're all bad
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: defenders and then went down the line you you you
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: you you you you, and the game following, in games
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: following the rest of the series, you allowed that guy
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: to not just be I think the best player on
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: the floor. Uh, you allowed that guy to be the
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: most tenacious and competitive with almost no impaiment to his game.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: You just said it best. So where was the motivation? Right,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: where's the motivation this team wants to beat you that
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: you have, you have done something that they never have.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: They want to beat you. They pushed a button for you.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: They gave you instant motivation. Jaden McDaniels woke up on
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: one day and said, I choose pain. I choose I'm
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: gonna make them feel so small. I'm gonna say something.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: He said, it gave you a path, a clear path
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: to be motivated. And the reaction was, yeah, we don't
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: play those kind of I just I'm still disgusted. To
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: be totally honest with you, guys, my biggest disappointment in
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: this series, it wasn't yesterday. It wasn't. In fact, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: watched the close of that game, and I wasn't nearly
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: as mad as I thought I was gonna be. My
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: disgust came in game three. That's where I was disgusted
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: to me because they didn't have nearly the reaction that
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: you should have had for having your toughness questioned. You
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: reacted even softer.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: VIC. The lack of being able to defend the penetration
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: to the bucket. There are excess and o's that need
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: to be worked on big time too. The lack of connectivity.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: We've talked about that a lot too, of the lack
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: of just connected on the floor. It's all in right now,
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: it's right now, it's all encompassing. We can talk extras
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: and o's we can talk, but right now it's all encompassing.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: So but this series, just this series, the biggest just
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I've named it from me. I identified it to me
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: to smack back.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: When it was the called out. It was the I
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: don't want to say lack of pride, but the lack
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: of pride showing. I suppose when you got specifically called
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: out and your your professionalism was questioned and you really
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: did nothing to respond to it, at least not immediately.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: What was yours, Brett, it was that.
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: But I guess from a broader sense this is always
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: like a difficult thing to say, but this is how
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: it felt, again, nothing but honest on the show. It
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: was one of those times, and it's I usually brushed
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: this off to the side, but I do think it's
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: true here. I felt like fans cared more than the team.
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: At least that was the feel of it. It did
• 44:49
  Speaker 8: feel that way to me.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: That's the case a lot of times. I mean, it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: but but but Vic, it's.
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: More like when you allow yourself to get disrespected that way.
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: And whether it's him calling you out or I'm telling
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: you God, I was so bothered by the nas reed
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: push and nobody being there in the scrum like that is.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: So.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when.
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: Russell Wilson got sacked towards the end of his Broncos
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: career and he got himself up off the turf. There
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: wasn't alignment to help him. Remember that, And You're like, well,
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: that's that's showing some real cracks there. That's that's a
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: real problem. Your best player is getting pushed with an
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: entire team surrounding him and nobody's there to help. That's
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: a bigger issue because that's not talent, that's not missing shots.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that, you know, That's that's what you needed
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: a Russell Westbrook on the team, because I guarantee you
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: if Russell Westbrook plays in this series of this plays
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: out differently.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: You know, I think that one of these personalities, every
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: little personality in the championship team helps as well. Man,
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: what's some Uncle Jeff? You know, I just think it's
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: some Uncle Jeff.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, damn, okay, I told you we were
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: going to make some tough decisions here. I think we
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: all agree the nugget you can't rewrack this, you can't
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: rack it up again. You have to make changes right,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: and the changes have to come from the core, somebody
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: on this core, the core of this team. If you
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: want to get younger, deeper, more athletic, somebody has to go.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about that. It needs to be discussed.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: We'll get to that in just a second. Kevin Fallness
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: of Minnesota Wild Radio is going to join us at
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: eight twenty this morning as well.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Stick around