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Chuck & Buck 10-14 Hour 4: Rick Neuheisel, Ryon Healy vs the Ol Judge and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Each time to talk all things college football.
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Speaker 2: It's just like the menu at Taco Time. You just
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Speaker 2: can't get enough. You just can't get enough.
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Speaker 3: This is our weekly visit with Rick Neuheiseel, brought to
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Speaker 3: you buy Taco.
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Speaker 2: Time, not those new Heidels. Used to be a moniker
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Speaker 2: of mine. I mean, just sell you know now.
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Speaker 3: On your home for college football Saturdays. Here's Nacho's new
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Speaker 2: This is college football, and I want you to get
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Speaker 2: it all over yourself.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I saw how you spread some history
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Speaker 1: and some love and the Apple Cup there on CBS.
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Speaker 1: So I hope you're spreading that same Mariner thing right
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Speaker 1: now on the set. I hope Aaron Taylor's getting an
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Speaker 1: earfull of Mariner baseball talk from you.
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Speaker 2: I am just amazed at the heat index of the
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Speaker 2: Seattle sports scene.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the.
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Speaker 2: Seahawks are on fire, the Dogs are on fire, the
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Speaker 2: Mariners are going to go to the World Series. It's
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Speaker 2: too good to be true.
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Speaker 1: We're not gonna pinch ourselves. We're just gonna keep riding it.
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Speaker 2: So I have expected you guys to be in Toronto today,
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Speaker 2: but as you were in Detroit the last time I spoke.
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Speaker 2: But ride this thing, ride it and find a way
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Speaker 2: to capture the crown. What a thrill that would be.
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Speaker 4: I'd be amazing.
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Speaker 1: All right, So you're gonna have to explain something to me,
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Speaker 1: because how in the world has Jerry Neuheisel been the
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Speaker 1: story of the week in college football two weeks in
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Speaker 1: a row. I mean coach, I mean putting aside obviously
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Speaker 1: the family connection, the obvious family connection. I've never seen
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Speaker 1: a turnaround like this for a football team in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the year ever in the history of watching
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Speaker 1: college football. What on earth has your son due to
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Speaker 1: none there in UCLA to turn this thing around out.
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Speaker 2: There, Listen, it's easy to sit there and say, oh,
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Speaker 2: it's all about Jerry. You got to give credit to
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Speaker 2: Tim Skipper, the head coach, who all of a sudden
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Speaker 2: tried to make it's fun again. You got to give
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Speaker 2: credit to Kevin Coyle, who literally two weeks ago was
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Speaker 2: an analyst at Syracuse. He comes in because he was
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Speaker 2: with Tim a year ago at Fresno. They come in
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Speaker 2: and concoct a defense that's working. And then Jerry, who'd
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Speaker 2: been there for six years. And if you think about it.
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Speaker 2: He'd coached the quarterbacks when he first got there, then
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Speaker 2: he coached the wide receivers, So all the wide receivers
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Speaker 2: that are on the roster this year are all kids
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Speaker 2: that Jerry recruited. And then he's had the tight end
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Speaker 2: room this year, so he knows all the tight ends.
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Speaker 2: So he knows all these guys, and he now he's
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Speaker 2: kidding to coach Nico and coach some confidence back in
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Speaker 2: the Nico, And all of a sudden it's starting to
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Speaker 2: take hold. There's some good players, they just were not
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Speaker 2: necessarily organized in a way that they needed to be.
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Speaker 2: And so you put all these guys working together, and
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Speaker 2: then you add that extra little thing called belief, and
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Speaker 2: something special can happen, and it's wonder it all take place.
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Speaker 2: Now it's gonna get harder. It's Maryland this week. And
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Speaker 2: then they go on the road to a school called Indiana.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar. The Hoosiers are playing
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Speaker 2: big time college football.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Indiana. A huge win. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Kurt Signetti was National Coach of the Year
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Speaker 1: last year. You don't normally win that award two years
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Speaker 1: in a row because your program can't possibly go to
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Speaker 1: another extraordinary level, but he might pull this thing off.
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Speaker 1: He might be National Coach of the Year back to
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Speaker 1: back years if what we're seeing out of the Hoosiers
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Speaker 1: is real.
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Speaker 2: I had a front row seat for the Count's job
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Speaker 2: this last weekend there in Eugene, and I call him
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Speaker 2: to count because he's got the same suntan as Dracula.
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Speaker 2: It is a remarkable job of coaching, and yet it's
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Speaker 2: just fundamental football. He is the master of fundamental football.
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Speaker 2: That defense did a great job at keeping and inside
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Speaker 2: their edges. They set edges and made you know, spilled
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Speaker 2: to their help. So there was no real big plays
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Speaker 2: save the one kind of confusion in the back end
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Speaker 2: that Dante More hit the touchdown pass early. That was
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Speaker 2: the one explosive play. After that, they just made him
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Speaker 2: go ten eleven, twelve play drives. And usually if you
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Speaker 2: do that over the course of a game, the offense
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Speaker 2: will make a mistake and put themselves behind the sticks
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Speaker 2: and it's not sustainable. And that is exactly what took place.
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Speaker 2: And add to that, Fernando Mendoza on the offensive side,
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Speaker 2: who has a howitzer for a throwing arm and was
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Speaker 2: able to take all the outs that were thrown and
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Speaker 2: back shoulder throws that were available to him, and he
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Speaker 2: did it masterfully. So no accident, Eugene. That was a
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Speaker 2: really good football team on the road getting that win,
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Speaker 2: and it was the first time in the history of
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Speaker 2: Indiana football, who right now is the losingest team in
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Speaker 2: the history of the NCAA more losses than any other team.
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Speaker 2: They that's their first win over a top five team
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Speaker 2: on the road. They had only one other under their belt.
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Speaker 2: That was in nineteen sixty seven, a home win against Purdue.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: And before we get to the Huskies, I do want
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Speaker 1: to ask about one other coaching question for you, because, man,
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Speaker 1: when this season started, Penn State ranks number two in
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Speaker 1: the country. A lot of people believing that this was
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Speaker 1: the year if they're going to get it done, They're
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Speaker 1: going to get it done this year. They're going to
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Speaker 1: get over that hurdle and they're going to be the
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Speaker 1: Ohio State or the Michigan and have a shot at
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Speaker 1: the national championship. For US to not even be halfway
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Speaker 1: through the college football season and James Franklin out of
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Speaker 1: a job, has there been anything more surprising this year?
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Speaker 4: In college football than that.
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Speaker 2: No, that's a free fall. That is an absolute freefall.
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Speaker 2: Tom Petty song is blaring in my ears right now.
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Speaker 2: I am. I am sitting here thinking about what I
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Speaker 2: said before the season started about if not now, when
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Speaker 2: given all the people that the pieces that were coming back,
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Speaker 2: Allen and Singleton in the backfield, Allers the quarterback, they
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Speaker 2: went and spent money to get Paynia and Hudson wide
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Speaker 2: receivers from sc and Syracuse respectively. They had all the
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Speaker 2: pieces and all the coaches were back. As a matter
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Speaker 2: of fact, they went and got the defending national champion
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, the first three million dollar assistant coach in Knowles,
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Speaker 2: to come and be the architect of the defense. There
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Speaker 2: was no reason for this, and they had the softest
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Speaker 2: of non conference schedules, but it went out like the
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Speaker 2: air out of a balloon. After that loss to Oregon
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Speaker 2: in double overtime, they go out in UCLA hands it
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Speaker 2: to them. It wasn't an accident. And then they get
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Speaker 2: beat by Northwestern, and I'm hearing that Adidas, who had
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Speaker 2: spent incredible amounts of money to take that school away
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Speaker 2: from Nike, were part of the deal, and they can't
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Speaker 2: watch this investment go down go downhill. So I think
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Speaker 2: they put up some money to handle the buyout, and
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Speaker 2: we're moving on at Penn State, which means it's the
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Speaker 2: most attractive job out there. It's an amazing turn of events.
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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, without a doubt. Well, another amazing turn of
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Speaker 4: events was you dub and the way they came roaring
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Speaker 4: back after kind of falling behind a little bit this
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Speaker 4: weekend against Rutgers. So, I mean, how impressed with Demon
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Speaker 4: Williams and just the Washington team now sitting at five
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Speaker 4: and one.
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Speaker 2: You guys remember me telling you after I went to
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Speaker 2: practice that I thought Demon Williams was his talented the
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Speaker 2: guys I've seen in recent memory. I watched him now.
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Speaker 2: Obviously he can run. He's a gifted little athlete that
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Speaker 2: can make people miss. And the Buckeys were the best
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Speaker 2: at basically caging him and keeping him in the pocket,
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Speaker 2: right because they have the wherewithal to do that. When
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Speaker 2: he gets loose, he's a menace, and he was a
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Speaker 2: menace to the Scarlet Knights the other night, to the
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Speaker 2: tune of one hundred and thirty six yards on the
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Speaker 2: ground ten plus per But he's also a gifted passer,
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Speaker 2: And that's what caught my attention when I was at practice.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy he can throw it from a
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Speaker 2: thousand of He would be the shortstop on a baseball team.
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Speaker 2: And he can go in the hole and throw the
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Speaker 2: strike to throw you out at first. And he can
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Speaker 2: go up the middle and then turn his body and
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Speaker 2: contort it to make the play at first as well,
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Speaker 2: and the ball is going to spend beautifully. That's who
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Speaker 2: he is. And that's no accident that he put four
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Speaker 2: hundred yards up. Now, will it be harder against Michigan, Yes,
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Speaker 2: But when you start with we can't let him run,
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Speaker 2: you can imagine what else is available to Jed when
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Speaker 2: he's architecting an offense. He is a absolute weapon and
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Speaker 2: then some. And don't count him out of this Heisman race.
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Speaker 2: If the Huskies continue to.
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Speaker 1: Be hot, well, nobody's running away with it, that's for sure.
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Speaker 1: And that was very Heismany Friday.
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Speaker 2: Night, Very Heismany. I was a part of a quarterback
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Speaker 2: performance when Marcus ran for two hundred and three for
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Speaker 2: three hundred. This was every bit as entertaining and exceptional.
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Speaker 1: All right, So Michigan, I mean they don't look like
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Speaker 1: World beaters this year. But they are at home, and
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Speaker 1: this is the stiffest challenge other than Ohio State that
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Speaker 1: this team's faced this year. They didn't get the buck Eyes,
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Speaker 1: they didn't get that done at home. I mean, what
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Speaker 1: kind of a chance do you give the dogs Saturday
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Speaker 1: in the Big House.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think the fact that Jed's coach there will
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Speaker 2: help because he'll kind of be able to talk to
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Speaker 2: the team about the mystique of the Big House and
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Speaker 2: all of that. You know, it's not a loud place,
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Speaker 2: because it's a bowl in the place, you're going to
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Speaker 2: be able to hear. This is all going to come
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Speaker 2: down to. There's Wink Martindale able to craft the same
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Speaker 2: kind of plan that Patricia did and keep Demand's legs
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Speaker 2: at bay. And if that be the case, then it's
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Speaker 2: all going to come down to third down conversions. Because
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Speaker 2: if the Huskies can play on third down, play efficiently
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Speaker 2: on third down, they're better than Michigan on offense. That's
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Speaker 2: a fact. Michigan runs the ball sc was able to
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Speaker 2: corral them in the running game. That hadn't been the
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Speaker 2: case with the Trojans in the Lincoln Riley era. That
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Speaker 2: they were able to and sc also ran for over
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Speaker 2: two hundred yards out rushed Michigan. And if Washington can
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Speaker 2: do that with both the mon and Jonah Coleman, this
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Speaker 2: sets up really well for the Dogs. I will not
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Speaker 2: be shocked with a I know they are underdog, but
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Speaker 2: I will not be shocked with the Husky victory.
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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean Rutgers is not the same running
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Speaker 4: team that they typically were last year. You mentioned it
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Speaker 4: last week with the.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost the non guy. Yeah, they kind of
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Speaker 2: leaning on Calliac manus. They threw the ball fifty times
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Speaker 2: in this game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Dogs. Yeah, And yet the Dogs to some
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Speaker 4: degree diffened up. I mean, they still ended up getting
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Speaker 4: a little over one hundred yards, but it was not
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Speaker 4: one of those college running performances where you got Rayan over.
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Speaker 4: So do you feel like there's enough scene in the
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Speaker 4: pants of this d line to slow down the Justice
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Speaker 4: Haynes kid from Michigan.
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Speaker 2: To me, that's always the answer when they take one
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Speaker 2: on the chin at Michigan is we've got to run
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Speaker 2: the ball. And that was their key when they went
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Speaker 2: to Nebraska and won. They had big runs and Justice
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Speaker 2: Haynes is a heck of a player. They've got a
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Speaker 2: couple of you know, Robbins to his batman. But the
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Speaker 2: bottom line is this is going to be the key,
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Speaker 2: and Jed will know this. They have to stop the
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Speaker 2: running game, and I would suspect if they're starting to,
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Speaker 2: you know, meet loggerheads in the running game, that Bryce Underwood,
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Speaker 2: their quarterback, will also incorporate its legs and it'll be
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Speaker 2: interesting if they add more of that to the equation
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Speaker 2: when the Huskies get the town.
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Speaker 1: How about the Kougs. By the way, got to give
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Speaker 1: a little bit of love to the Kougs. They scared
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Speaker 1: the crud out of Ole Miss on Saturday. They almost
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Speaker 1: sent Lane Kiffin's dream season a reeling Saturday.
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Speaker 2: That was an awesome performance by Jimmy Rogers Bunch. You know,
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Speaker 2: I think the Cougar program got built bad cards in
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Speaker 2: the current lot that they're in, but the way they're
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Speaker 2: fighting is awesome. I think that ech House kid, the
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Speaker 2: quarterback zebby ech House is fun to watch and I
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Speaker 2: wish it would have happened, But they certainly got close.
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Speaker 2: We know, close doesn't count unless you're playing hand grenades
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Speaker 2: or horseshoes. But the bottom line is that that was
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Speaker 2: a hell of an effort, hell of an effort way
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Speaker 2: to go coog.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was a classic trap game scenario that almost
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Speaker 1: caught all miss because they're looking forward to Georgia the
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Speaker 1: following week, So how do they bounce back from that
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Speaker 1: near loss to actually give an a effort that they'll
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Speaker 1: require to beat the Bulldogs.
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Speaker 2: You know they're an underdog at Georgia, but I've not
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Speaker 2: seen Georgia more vulnerable than they are this year. And
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Speaker 2: this is a product of the transfer portal and the resources.
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Speaker 2: You know, it used to be that Kirby learned from
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Speaker 2: Nick Saban, and Nick Saban would stockpile defensive line talent,
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Speaker 2: just stockpilot. I went to a practice and saw thirteen guys,
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Speaker 2: and I said to the guy next to me, if
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Speaker 2: I had two of them, I'd still be coaching just
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Speaker 2: two of those guys. And that's the way Georgia was
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Speaker 2: when they won those back to back titles. Now those
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Speaker 2: guys are taking you know, lucrative deals to go elsewhere,
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Speaker 2: and they don't have the same kind of numbers, so
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Speaker 2: this is more of a fair fight. I think Ole
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Speaker 2: Miss beating Georgia in Oxford last year was not an accident,
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Speaker 2: so I think this is a last possession type of game.
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Speaker 2: And this Trinidad Chambliss, the kid that was at Farris
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Speaker 2: State last year as a Division two quarterback, is a
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Speaker 2: college football story and then some. So I got to
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Speaker 2: cut my fingers crossed that Kippen and company get it
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Speaker 2: done in Athens.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 1: Vegas for whatever reason, started off with an opening line
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Speaker 1: of Alabama destroying Tennessee by like two touchdowns. I think
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Speaker 1: Kaitlin de Bores righted the ship to some degree, but
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Speaker 1: he's not operating. Nick Saban's Alabama Crimson tied just yet.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they demolish many opponents, especially of
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Speaker 1: the eleventh ranked team in the country. Any idea why
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Speaker 1: that was such a lopsided, you know, opening line.
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Speaker 2: I don't have any idea unless there's some injuries that
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Speaker 2: I'm not aware of. The bottom line here is ty Simpson,
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Speaker 2: the Alabama quarterback is really good, really playing well. And
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Speaker 2: we all know how good that duo of de Boor
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Speaker 2: and Grub are in terms of teaching and giving them
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Speaker 2: some concepts that are fail safe. They've they've done a
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Speaker 2: nice job. So Simpson is having fun, and they've got
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Speaker 2: three really good receivers. The Horton kid that they got
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Speaker 2: from Miami, along with Ryan Williams, who was this freshman sensation,
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Speaker 2: and then a Husky fans will remember Jeremy Bernard. Those
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Speaker 2: three guys are all having a great year. So Alabama
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Speaker 2: is ready to play, but they're not fantastic defensively, and
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Speaker 2: so what Alabama is now doing is they're adding time
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Speaker 2: of possession to the equation. Both the last two wins
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Speaker 2: over Vanderbilt and then last week against Missouri were thirty
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Speaker 2: seven minutes. That's a weapon. So Tennessee is going to
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Speaker 2: have to be able to run the ball. Most teams
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Speaker 2: have been able to do that against Alabama. If Tennessee
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Speaker 2: can run the ball, this Aguilar, the kid that came
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Speaker 2: from Ucla when Nico came to use came from Tennessee
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Speaker 2: to Ucla. He ended up going to Tennessee. He's been terrific.
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Speaker 2: And they got this receiver, I think he's six to five,
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Speaker 2: Chris Brasel. That is a weapon. And then so I
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Speaker 2: think that game's a fourth quarter game just because it
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Speaker 2: almost all is, especially since Hypel's been mining the store
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Speaker 2: there in Knoxville.
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Speaker 1: Utah has destroyed every team they face except Texas Tech,
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Speaker 1: who destroyed them. So how good is Texas Tech? But
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Speaker 1: I really believe in this Utah team, and yet they're
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Speaker 1: facing THEYU in the Holy War.
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Speaker 4: Who wins it?
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Speaker 2: Well, both of them have running quarterbacks. I think it's
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Speaker 2: going to be most entertaining game of the weekend because
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Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeier, this freshman who wears number forty seven at quarterback,
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Speaker 2: has been a blast to watch. And this kid, Devin Dampier,
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Speaker 2: who was a thousand yard rusher as well as a
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Speaker 2: accomplished passer for New Mexico. They have borrowed this new
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Speaker 2: wave of the future where you go get the coach
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Speaker 2: and the quarterback to come to your place. So both
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Speaker 2: those guys came from New Mexico, Jason Beck and Dampier,
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Speaker 2: and they're having great success. The one loss, as you mentioned,
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Speaker 2: the Tech, was when Dampier was a little nicked up,
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Speaker 2: So if he's running around, I think we're in for
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Speaker 2: a treat. I'm going to take Utah on the game,
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Speaker 2: but wouldn't be surprised at any outcome.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think every right thinking person hates use SC
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Speaker 1: and Notre Dame. Right, But it's a rivalry I don't
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Speaker 1: ever want to see go anywhere, coach, So they're actually
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Speaker 1: talking about breaking this thing up. We might have to
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Speaker 1: savor these matchups. I mean, it's not the time of
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Speaker 1: the year it's supposed to be at, but it's still
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Speaker 1: one of our great rivalries.
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Speaker 4: Who wins it.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Trojans. The fact that
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Speaker 2: they ran the ball for over two hundred yards against
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Speaker 2: Michigan says they can go up against the big boys.
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Speaker 2: I thought Miami ran the ball effectively against Notre Dame
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Speaker 2: in that opening game. They just Notre Dame just lost
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Speaker 2: their center. That'll be a blow to them. I'm going
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Speaker 2: to take the Trojans, assuming that they can be stout
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Speaker 2: against the run and not let you know that Notre
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Speaker 2: Dame offense just kind of dominate the thing. They've got
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Speaker 2: a couple of really dynamic running backs. But I'm going
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Speaker 2: to take the Tropans. This Makai Lemmon, by the way,
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Speaker 2: if you've not watch them, he's the receiver for us.
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Speaker 2: He leads the big tennis. He's Pooka Nakua the second.
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Speaker 2: He's unbelievable.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's really fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, it's gonna be another great Saturday. Do
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Speaker 1: you got a Taco Time Pick of the week or
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Speaker 1: have we already covered it?
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Speaker 2: I think we covered it. I'm taking the trojans, uh.
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Speaker 2: I'll lay the seven and a half or eight and
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Speaker 2: give me a Lincoln and Company and see if we
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Speaker 2: can't do some damaging out then.
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Speaker 1: All right, great stuff, Thank you sir. We appreciate it,
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Speaker 1: enjoy it all, and we'll talk.
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Speaker 4: Again next week.
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Speaker 2: All right, take care.
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Speaker 1: All right, Rick new Isil joining us right here on
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Speaker 1: by Taco Time. You got to head on down to
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Speaker 1: Taco Time, have yourself a crisp chicken burrito. I came
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Speaker 1: here the Sunday night to watch the game here from
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Speaker 1: the studio to do our post game show. I just
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Speaker 1: swung by Taco Time myself a Taco Time feast.
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Speaker 4: I would have come down here to watch the game
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Speaker 4: with you, just for time. Yeah, I known that I
18:56
Speaker 4: would have came down. I didn't want to. I didn't
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Speaker 4: want to bother you didn't want to.
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Speaker 5: I would have been like I don't know if I
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Speaker 5: want to drive all the way down.
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Speaker 6: You could have been Taco Time. I would have been.
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Speaker 1: I'll be there in ten ALCS Game one and a
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Speaker 1: Taco Time feest.
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Speaker 4: How do you beat that? You can't?
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Speaker 1: And we won and I won versus the Taco Time fees.
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Speaker 4: Wow? All right?
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Speaker 7: Coming up next, the old Judge is stopping by, and
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Speaker 7: I can't wait to see the look on Ryan Healey's
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Speaker 7: face when he meets some sports Radio ninety three point
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Speaker 7: been joining us here throughout the postseason after every Mariner
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Speaker 7: game as a an analyst.
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Speaker 1: He's been terrific for us. Boy looking straight back that possible. Yeah,
19:41
Speaker 1: And so we decided it was high time that he
19:43
Speaker 1: met the old Judge and entered the courtroom.
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Speaker 4: Welcome into my courtroom, mister Heally.
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Speaker 8: You guys are full of surprises. I'm looking at Bucky's
19:50
Speaker 8: groom in the mustache. He's locked in. He's got a
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Speaker 8: gabble that I hope was handmade by you, because I
19:56
Speaker 8: will not accept anything other it was not.
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Speaker 4: There's a listener of ours, Barry. That's right, Barry Works
20:03
Speaker 4: is his company. He made it because Ashley bought me
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Speaker 4: a gavel that is this big. It's like four inches long.
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Speaker 8: Is the gabble for ants actually hereside the building.
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Speaker 1: It looked like a toothpick in Bucky's hands. Frankly, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's got it there.
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Speaker 4: Don't laugh at the size of the gavel. It's Ashley's gavel.
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Speaker 5: I did use it buy that's yes, well this is
20:35
Speaker 5: now this started.
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Speaker 1: Just a quick background. I haven't given this in a while.
20:38
Speaker 1: So Bucky always gets baseball cards sent to be signed
20:40
Speaker 1: by our listeners, and for whatever reason, he gets sent
20:43
Speaker 1: a card and it just says the Old Judge on it,
20:46
Speaker 1: which has never been Bucky's nickname one day in his
20:48
Speaker 1: entire life.
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Speaker 4: Never Uh.
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Speaker 1: So we decided to use that uh and form it
20:52
Speaker 1: into a bit. And so here we go. We're gonna
20:55
Speaker 1: have Ryan Healey meet the old Judge. Here's how it works. Ryan,
20:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over a few different Aeronner scenarios here
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Speaker 1: a few statements. Then you will give an opinion. I
21:05
Speaker 1: will give an opinion. We don't have to disagree on it.
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Speaker 1: And whenever the old Judge has hurt.
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Speaker 4: Enough, gavel gavel gasl.
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Speaker 1: Slams the gavel he weighs in, and whatever he says goes.
21:15
Speaker 4: That's the way it works.
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Speaker 8: And love the Bucky, Bucky, you look great today. By
21:18
Speaker 8: the way, did you get some extra sleep? You look
21:20
Speaker 8: really well rested.
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Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah you will. That
21:26
Speaker 4: will go a long ways in my courtroom. Eally smart man.
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Speaker 1: All right, so here we go number one. Hooray Polanco
21:34
Speaker 1: as the game winning RBI in three state playoff games.
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Speaker 1: But analytics community dismisses the notion of a skill for
21:40
Speaker 1: clutch hitting. So Ryan is or hey, clutch or not?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, a hundred percent this, Thank goodness, analytics left something
21:49
Speaker 8: to be determined by the naked eye because otherwise US
21:52
Speaker 8: baseball players would have nothing left to do with the computers.
21:54
Speaker 8: And then I can't say that word, but the computers
21:56
Speaker 8: would take over all of our jobs and responsibilities in
21:59
Speaker 8: this space.
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Speaker 6: But yeah, he's clutch.
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Speaker 8: He's showcasing it, he's he's commanding strikes one, he's executing
22:04
Speaker 8: when the moment's the biggest.
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Speaker 1: All right, I just want to get you guys fired
22:08
Speaker 1: up because I agree with you.
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say no, analytics, Gavel, gall Galvel, shut
22:14
Speaker 4: your mouth. You do not preface some stupid comment like that, like, oh,
22:19
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna get the judge and heally pissed off. No,
22:22
Speaker 4: do that again, you'll be held in contempt. It's without
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Speaker 4: a doubt that there's a clutch factor. I don't even
22:28
Speaker 4: understand how you take that stat out of the whole thing.
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Speaker 4: It's because you can't quantify it, because not everybody gets
22:34
Speaker 4: his equal amount. I don't care if you get the
22:36
Speaker 4: equal amount. If you're hitting fourth, that's because your coach
22:38
Speaker 4: thinks you're good at driving guys in. If you're hitting ninth, yeah,
22:42
Speaker 4: can you turn the line up over? Please? Can you
22:44
Speaker 4: have a tough ab that's where you're at. And and
22:47
Speaker 4: luckily we have or eight Polunco because he is proving
22:49
Speaker 4: that he is about as clutch as you can get.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty determined. Gavel slam right there? You damn
22:53
Speaker 1: right all right? Second one, Ryan, At this point, Brian
22:57
Speaker 1: Wu just shouldn't start a game in the series.
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Speaker 8: How dare you say that out loud? Brian Wu is
23:03
Speaker 8: the Savior. He will start. If it's not this series,
23:06
Speaker 8: it'll be Game one of the World Series. Brian Wu
23:09
Speaker 8: is a saint, and you don't say anything other.
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Speaker 4: A good argument.
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Speaker 1: I gonna say this. I mean, if they give the
23:15
Speaker 1: ball to Bryce Miller on Game five, I don't think
23:17
Speaker 1: anybody could be upset by that. I don't think anybody
23:19
Speaker 1: should be worried about that. I do believe, though, we've
23:23
Speaker 1: got to test Brian at some point before before you
23:27
Speaker 1: potentially reach a World Series. And I don't think we
23:30
Speaker 1: can beat the Dodgers without Brian wu starting and performing
23:34
Speaker 1: well in a game or two.
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Speaker 9: So I'm gonna say I need to see him, cavel, cavel, cavel.
23:39
Speaker 9: I want to see him start definitely before the World Series.
23:41
Speaker 9: But I'm not worried about him starting. It's not a
23:44
Speaker 9: matter of okay, I'm if he's ready to come back.
23:47
Speaker 9: I'm bumping Bryce Miller.
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Speaker 4: At this point, you're still I mean, you somewhat have
23:52
Speaker 4: recovered from the fifteen inning game in the long five.
23:54
Speaker 4: I mean you basically are back to where everybody's gonna
23:56
Speaker 4: have their rest. But I don't think there's anything wrong
23:59
Speaker 4: with just running one guy out there after another. If
24:01
Speaker 4: this thing goes to game five, I think he's going
24:04
Speaker 4: to be ready to rock and roll. He threw a
24:06
Speaker 4: bullpen or some some live abs to some guys yesterday.
24:09
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be ready to rock and
24:11
Speaker 4: roll on Friday, and I think they run him out
24:13
Speaker 4: there on Friday. That's gonna be a nice situation where
24:15
Speaker 4: you're gonna get to see and it's not necessarily you're
24:17
Speaker 4: runninghim out there in a game seven necessarily where you're
24:21
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent sure. Now he's going to react
24:24
Speaker 4: after having missing some time. Can't do that, can't do that,
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Speaker 4: all right?
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Speaker 8: Next one, I would love to see him open with
24:29
Speaker 8: like a two winning start. Let him go through his
24:31
Speaker 8: normal routine and then have Bryce Miller piggyback off of him,
24:34
Speaker 8: like I would love to see Brian. We'll get that
24:36
Speaker 8: opportunity depending on where the series shaken out.
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Speaker 4: I like that. I like that. Not a bad idea, ma'am.
24:41
Speaker 4: You already had stated your case, sir, judge had already
24:44
Speaker 4: made his declaration.
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Speaker 8: Is okay, I'll take my slap on the hand he's dead.
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Speaker 4: Just to make a great point. Yeah, yeah, it was
24:52
Speaker 4: a great point, by the way, all right.
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Speaker 1: Next one, I don't understand all the surprise. The Blue
24:58
Speaker 1: Jays aren't better than the Mariners anything.
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Speaker 4: Disagree with that.
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Speaker 8: They strike out a heck of a lot less than
25:05
Speaker 8: our guys, But I'm not surprised because these are two
25:08
Speaker 8: high quality teams. What I am surprised about, though, is
25:11
Speaker 8: how much emotion went into the Blue Jays Yankee series.
25:14
Speaker 8: And I feel like there was almost a massive celebration
25:17
Speaker 8: of the Yankees lose and everything that was publicized in
25:20
Speaker 8: the media, that they didn't have that same undertone of
25:23
Speaker 8: tenacity and just eagerness to want to embarrass the Mariners.
25:26
Speaker 8: The Mariners almost came in here as underdogs because yes,
25:29
Speaker 8: to the lower ranked seed, but everyone anticipated they're gonna
25:31
Speaker 8: be exhausted, their bullpens dead, they used three starting pitchers.
25:34
Speaker 8: They were the underdogs, and they're now showcasing the ability
25:37
Speaker 8: of doubt me please, because we got plenty of depth
25:40
Speaker 8: in this roster pitching and hitting.
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Speaker 1: I think they've got the better starting rotation, the better bullpen,
25:44
Speaker 1: and the better lineup. I mean, I don't get the
25:47
Speaker 1: surprise out there. I think the Blue Jays might have
25:49
Speaker 1: a better defense. Hem Andez can pick it at short
25:52
Speaker 1: and var show's a Gold Glover, and Guerrero actually has
25:55
Speaker 1: won a Gold Glove, and apparently Alejandro Kirk's gonna win
25:58
Speaker 1: the Gold glove so they can pick it defensively. But man,
26:01
Speaker 1: I'll take pitching and hitting over a team having better
26:05
Speaker 1: defense than me.
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Speaker 4: Gavel, Gavel. We're a better team than they are. I
26:10
Speaker 4: think there might be some things where they can you
26:14
Speaker 4: know the fact that they do put the ball in
26:15
Speaker 4: play a little bit more. I think without Bobaschett you
26:18
Speaker 4: most certainly have a better lineup. Even with him, I
26:21
Speaker 4: think you got a better lineup. But I don't think
26:22
Speaker 4: that's a contest. The starting rotation, no doubt about it.
26:26
Speaker 4: And when it comes down to bullpen, I think that
26:28
Speaker 4: we're going to have a better bullpen. I do think
26:30
Speaker 4: that there's this is not going to be a walkover.
26:32
Speaker 4: You're up to zero, but that's a really good team.
26:35
Speaker 4: That's a team that finished with the most wins of
26:37
Speaker 4: anybody in the American League. I don't think you can
26:39
Speaker 4: snooze on this squad because on any given night, these
26:42
Speaker 4: guys can come out and beat you. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt final one, at least for the old Judge.
26:49
Speaker 1: Without need to see any of them. Every member of
26:53
Speaker 1: Bucky's Billiard's team in North Bend has a way more
26:57
Speaker 1: athletic physique than Alejandro Kirk.
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Speaker 4: Hey, let's go me.
27:07
Speaker 8: I don't think so. I think is a gabble.
27:12
Speaker 4: Gabble. You're saying, you think there's somebody on my pool
27:15
Speaker 4: league team that looks worse than Alejandro Kirk.
27:19
Speaker 6: Yeah, that boy can swing it, that boy can't take it.
27:21
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's not a good baseball player. No,
27:24
Speaker 4: he couldn't be. All right, galll gavel bailiff. Take that
27:28
Speaker 4: guy away, handcuffed, shackles, the whole deal. But I need
27:31
Speaker 4: a spit mask on him. He needs everything that we
27:34
Speaker 4: can possibly do. No, there, he is a damn good
27:37
Speaker 4: baseball player. But there's a reason we they call this
27:39
Speaker 4: baseball players are not athletes. It's because of people like him.
27:44
Speaker 6: You said, athletic build. An athlete is the way they move,
27:47
Speaker 6: not the way they look.
27:48
Speaker 8: Exo facto, Alejandro Kirk is a better athlete than all
27:51
Speaker 8: your pool team.
27:52
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no no.
27:55
Speaker 6: Bring the whole building a lot longer. Kirks run circles
27:58
Speaker 6: around to him.
27:58
Speaker 4: He is not running anywhere you see him. He can
28:01
Speaker 4: barely get out of a squad.
28:05
Speaker 8: A ladder drilled. That boy's got some quick feet under
28:07
Speaker 8: that big box because.
28:08
Speaker 4: He can't pick his knees up higher than two inches.
28:10
Speaker 5: You don't need to.
28:11
Speaker 6: He running running really fast. He just hit them all
28:14
Speaker 6: over the fence.
28:14
Speaker 4: If he hadn't run hurdles, he'd have to go under them.
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Speaker 8: Heally, I'm not gonna argue that point. There you go,
28:19
Speaker 8: you won a point.
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Speaker 2: Ah.
28:22
Speaker 4: I'm glad that Ryan met the old.
28:24
Speaker 1: Judge here today. Fun all right, So, uh, last thing
28:29
Speaker 1: for you before we let you go and we'll talk
28:31
Speaker 1: to you again.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 1: I guess Thursday, Thursday? What do you think game number three?
28:36
Speaker 1: How you feeling about it? Coming home to oh and
28:39
Speaker 1: and having him in the crosshairs in the of playing
28:42
Speaker 1: at Team Obile.
28:44
Speaker 6: I woke up this morning with Kobe Bryant on my mind.
28:46
Speaker 6: I just like jobs out finished.
28:48
Speaker 8: And I hope that that mentality was taken from Toronto
28:50
Speaker 8: back home to Seattle.
28:51
Speaker 6: Of Wow, that was unbelievable.
28:53
Speaker 8: We just went two up in their home park and
28:54
Speaker 8: we got to go back to our home stands, and
28:56
Speaker 8: it might be a little bit trauma like last time
28:58
Speaker 8: we were here to play fifteen inning games and we
29:00
Speaker 8: can't do that again. Like, my legs are still sore.
29:02
Speaker 8: So I hope that the focus to the mentality is
29:05
Speaker 8: like job's not finished. Like Bieber's coming off of a
29:07
Speaker 8: really rough start from the Yankees, Let's get after him
29:10
Speaker 8: early and getting their bullpen. Because we've done that, We've
29:12
Speaker 8: been really successful. George Kirby, stay right there. We have
29:15
Speaker 8: a arrested bullpen. We have we have a lot of
29:17
Speaker 8: depth that was able to get some work in. If
29:19
Speaker 8: I'm the Mariners, I'm walking in laser focus knowing how
29:23
Speaker 8: I need to execute this game three and get the
29:26
Speaker 8: crowd and the fans involved really really early, because that's
29:30
Speaker 8: gonna that's gonna steer in their favor.
29:31
Speaker 1: Great stuff, man, thanks for coming into the courtroom. That
29:34
Speaker 1: was fun.
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Speaker 6: Thank you guys for having me all right.
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Speaker 1: Ryan Heley, former Mariner, joining us right here on Chuck
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Speaker 1: and buck One Last Thing, next Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: Last thing time, Bucket, you get us going.
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Speaker 4: We talked about it. I'm sure you saw the eight six'
30:06
Speaker 4: two double play last night and The dodgers do Your kirchen.
30:11
Speaker 4: Voice what's he?
30:12
Speaker 1: Saying, oh you just never know what you're gonna.
30:14
Speaker 10: See they like.
30:15
Speaker 4: That that's there's there's a few times where excuse, me
30:24
Speaker 4: where he says something like, that and it's, like WHY
30:27
Speaker 4: i have seen that? BEFORE i hadn't seen that play.
30:30
Speaker 4: Before i've never seen that one, EITHER i, mean for
30:36
Speaker 4: those that didn't see, it like centerfielder goes, back tries
30:40
Speaker 4: to rob a home, run jumps, up hits his, glove clanks,
30:43
Speaker 4: out hits the, wall top of the, wall then he
30:46
Speaker 4: catches it in the, air bases, loaded and still somehow
30:50
Speaker 4: they forced to Ask ernandez out at the. PLATE m,
30:53
Speaker 4: like that's The it's definitely the deepest that guy's ever
30:59
Speaker 4: been thrown out at home play a force.
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Speaker 1: Before i'm going to correct it's nitpicking a little, bit
31:03
Speaker 1: BUT i don't want Ta OSCAR i like him too
31:05
Speaker 1: much to be. LABELED i think it was Key. K
31:07
Speaker 1: i think it Was. Enrique her name was that it
31:09
Speaker 1: was the one that got called out at. Home but
31:11
Speaker 1: the same thing applies also. YESTERDAY i, mean we've never
31:15
Speaker 1: seen a ball get away from a first baseman and
31:20
Speaker 1: it hit U Gino swatz in the back while he's
31:24
Speaker 1: sitting on the top, step and it really looked like
31:27
Speaker 1: nobody knew what the rule was and they had to
31:30
Speaker 1: spend time like figuring out is he in?
31:32
Speaker 4: Play is he out of? Play is the top step
31:34
Speaker 4: of the?
31:34
Speaker 6: DUGOUT i just never.
31:35
Speaker 1: Know you gotta, SAY i never know whose baseball just
31:38
Speaker 1: WHY i love it so. Much you never never.
31:41
Speaker 4: Know, yeah, YEAH i just get back just getting the
31:45
Speaker 4: dug out or go down one step to where we
31:47
Speaker 4: don't Have BECAUSE i was sitting there thinking to, Myself
31:48
Speaker 4: i'm pretty sure he's out of, play and most certainly
31:52
Speaker 4: was going to go out of play whether he was
31:53
Speaker 4: sitting there or. Not but if they would have called
31:55
Speaker 4: him back to first, base it all been, like, mm
31:59
Speaker 4: got a whole dugout for seats and your set on the.
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Speaker 1: TOP i, MEAN i guess you just Gotta oh you
32:03
Speaker 1: would have been mad At. Geno, yes, OH i, see,
32:07
Speaker 1: YEAH i didn't. KNOW i honestly looked At bucky at
32:10
Speaker 1: that moment And i'm just, LIKE i don't know what
32:12
Speaker 1: the rule is.
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Speaker 4: HERE i don't know what they're going to.
32:14
Speaker 1: SAY i don't know what they're gonna, come what's gonna
32:16
Speaker 1: come out of their mouth?
32:17
Speaker 4: Here? Next but, STRANGE, yep baseball for, You? Ashley what you?
32:21
Speaker 4: Won last?
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Speaker 5: THING i gotta NOW i have the contagious thing of
32:25
Speaker 5: forgetting to turn off the.
32:26
Speaker 4: MICROPHONE i had the one last. Thing what Was? Oh,
32:29
Speaker 4: Yes SO i was.
32:29
Speaker 5: Talking to coach In New heizel before he came on
32:32
Speaker 5: the air with you, guys and he was, like oh,
32:33
Speaker 5: gosh just must he's so exciting to, be you, know
32:36
Speaker 5: up there right, now and like it just seems like
32:38
Speaker 5: everything's going right In seattle. SPORTS i, say, well, coach
32:40
Speaker 5: you Know seattle though everybody's, like, ooh is it too
32:44
Speaker 5: good to be?
32:44
Speaker 1: True what's gonna go?
32:46
Speaker 6: Wrong so you can't really get too. Excited you can be.
32:48
Speaker 5: Excited but then all of a sudden there's this like
32:50
Speaker 5: and he's just, laughing and he, goes, oh it's.
32:52
Speaker 1: Fine they're going to The World, Series and it made
32:54
Speaker 1: my heart.
32:54
Speaker 4: Stop did it start? AGAIN i believe so we may
33:00
Speaker 4: have to come in.
33:01
Speaker 6: THERE i believe.
33:01
Speaker 4: It. DID i believe we're.
33:03
Speaker 6: Good BUT i was, like, oh you can't say.
33:05
Speaker 1: THAT i think the embodiment AND i always feel this
33:08
Speaker 1: way is. Softy and he's done these videos after each
33:13
Speaker 1: of the last two, wins and there's there are curse
33:15
Speaker 1: words in. There, yes he's got a pot rubbed off on.
33:19
Speaker 4: Him i've never heard him cuss, before you, haven't, No.
33:24
Speaker 1: But there are curse words in, there but he's whispering
33:27
Speaker 1: in both of, them like he can't say it out.
33:29
Speaker 4: Loud, yeah he needs to not hold it. In it's
33:35
Speaker 4: like he's talking like you know they, say like don't
33:37
Speaker 4: hold in a, sneeze you, know blow something out or.
33:40
Speaker 1: He's got to get it.
33:41
Speaker 4: Out but he's like faces turned all, red, angry Whishper
33:47
Speaker 4: god can't hear.
33:48
Speaker 6: Me he won't take it away from.
33:53
Speaker 4: Feel like someone's waiting to snatch it.
33:54
Speaker 1: Away all, right just, quickly my one last. THING i
33:58
Speaker 1: Guess Doug eddings was not.
33:59
Speaker 4: That bad of an umpire during the regular.
34:01
Speaker 1: Season somebody sent me his stats from the regular, season but,
34:05
Speaker 1: boy he was terrible yesterday he saves.
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Speaker 4: All, yeah that's. Good, yeah glad you.
34:09
Speaker 1: Season all, right we'll talk to you tomorrow at six.
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Speaker 1: Am our postgame coverage will continue throughout the. Playoffs but
34:19
Speaker 1: of course No mariner game, tonight So bucky AND i
34:21
Speaker 1: actually get to go home and do the routine for
34:23
Speaker 1: the first time in a couple of. Weeks but we
34:26
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34:31
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