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Leland, the Devil and Ray Wise · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: This is PJ Souls, and you are totally listening to
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  Speaker 1: Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Rock, rock, rock, we roll high school. That's not the
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  Speaker 2: way I wanna be.
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  Speaker 1: Rock, rock, rock, we roll high school.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanna have some chicks.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanna get some chicks.
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  Speaker 2: Rock, rock, rock, rock, we roll high school. This episode
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  Speaker 2: is rated M for Misty. Yes, that's right, this is
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  Speaker 2: a Misty episode, so it will be laced with profanity
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  Speaker 2: even more than usual. If you're not comfortable with this
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  Speaker 2: level of profanity, perhaps this isn't the episode for you.
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  Speaker 2: But we have many other episodes to choose from that
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  Speaker 2: do not feature Misty, and will probably be far less offensive. Okay, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: With that having been said, on with the show.
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  Speaker 1: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 2: Five more cooling in the containment chamber. To your citizens,
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  Speaker 2: we have a movie meltdown. Ray, when someone asks you
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  Speaker 2: if you're a god, you say, YES!
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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Misty.
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  Speaker 1: We're coming to you live via digital recording from the
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  Speaker 1: outskirts of Days of the Dead in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 4: Hills, yes we are.
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  Speaker 1: Here... At the Windermere Hotel. That's what I've been calling
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  Speaker 1: it all day, so I'm going with that.
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  Speaker 4: Clarence Weidman, that's the name I was trying to think
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  Speaker 4: of earlier.
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  Speaker 5: All day.
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  Speaker 1: It's been this craziness all day.
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  Speaker 4: Shenanigans.
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  Speaker 1: It has been also awesome.
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  Speaker 4: It's been pretty fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It's been pretty awesome. Cruising around, hanging out with our favorite.
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  Speaker 6: Person, which we'll get to in a minute.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: And looking at cool stuff. Do you want to jump
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  Speaker 1: right to him?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's the first thing we did.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it really is. It's the whole reason. Not
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  Speaker 1: that we don't always love coming to Days of Dead,
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  Speaker 1: but when I saw it, I immediately sent the link
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  Speaker 1: to you. You saw who's coming, right?
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  Speaker 4: I sent it to you.
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  Speaker 1: I sent it to you. We both sent it simultaneously.
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  Speaker 4: I sent it to you first. I can double check
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  Speaker 4: the internets if I need to. So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my God, now I have to go. Am I
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  Speaker 4: going to have to look this up?
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  Speaker 1: Does it really matter? Did we not end up here?
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  Speaker 4: We are here.
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  Speaker 1: We are here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here.
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  Speaker 1: And did we not see your favoritist person?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. I have been saying four years. Literally
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  Speaker 4: four years.
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  Speaker 6: This has been an ongoing conversation for us.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of the two that I've been saying for years.
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  Speaker 4: Goddamn Mark Singer still ain't listening to me.
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  Speaker 1: He's just being difficult. But whatever. Him aside.
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  Speaker 4: One of these days. Mark Singer. I'm coming for you.
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  Speaker 4: Not in a creepy stalker way. But in a I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to get you to sign my Beastmaster poster kind
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  Speaker 4: of way. But yeah. Ray Wise.
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  Speaker 1: We've been saying for years. When is Ray Wise going
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  Speaker 1: to come somewhere where we can go and see him
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  Speaker 1: and hang out and he can sign a thing and
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  Speaker 1: take a picture and all of the cool things.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Now is the time.
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  Speaker 4: Because yeah, I've literally been waiting forever and I just
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  Speaker 4: can't even God, we talk so much I can't even
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  Speaker 4: find the conversation that we had.
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  Speaker 1: We're the only ones either of us talk to. You
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  Speaker 1: know that.
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  Speaker 4: I talk to people. Occasionally I do, but Apparently I
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  Speaker 4: can't search for just specific conversations.
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  Speaker 1: You can. It's called scrolling.
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  Speaker 4: Anyways, I'm pretty sure I told you about it. So
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  Speaker 4: I came fully prepared to like wait in line for
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  Speaker 4: like hours and hours and hours and hours and hours
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  Speaker 4: and hours. Cause that's like, usually when I want to
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  Speaker 4: see somebody, it's a process.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a big deal. And to me, that was
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  Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, it's a big deal. He's never
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  Speaker 1: been to any of these in this area, at least.
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  Speaker 1: We've never seen him at how many shows do we
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  Speaker 1: go to? You all know. How many shows do we
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  Speaker 1: go to? And never have we run across Ray. So
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a big deal. We got
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  Speaker 1: to go get in line early. And this is our
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  Speaker 1: only objective. Go and see Ray. So beeline right when
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  Speaker 1: you got there.
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  Speaker 4: Fucking straight to where he was. There was nobody in line.
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you people?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Not necessarily you people that are listening because you probably
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  Speaker 1: weren't there, but Anyone in the vicinity, why would you
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  Speaker 1: not want to hang out with Ray? The coolest person ever.
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  Speaker 4: Straight to his line, nobody there, which was bizarre to me,
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  Speaker 4: because like I said, that was the only reason I came. Because,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I do like this convention, but me and people,
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  Speaker 4: it just doesn't go together well, and I end up
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  Speaker 4: getting super stressed, so it has to be like a
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  Speaker 4: specific name.
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  Speaker 1: A reason.
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  Speaker 4: Like, there has to be like.
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  Speaker 1: Incentive.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there has to be like, holy shit, I need
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  Speaker 4: this in my life. And then... He was there, and
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  Speaker 4: he was so delightful. And I couldn't decide which to
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  Speaker 4: go for, because they had the Twin Peaks, and then
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  Speaker 4: they had the Reaper, and I'm like, oh my god!
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  Speaker 4: So I buckled and got both.
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  Speaker 1: Sucker! Yeah, dude, I know.
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  Speaker 4: And then I had to get a picture with him,
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  Speaker 4: because I'm a full-on sucker, and how could I not?
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  Speaker 1: Who doesn't want a picture with Ray Wise?
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  Speaker 4: He's awesome. He is delightful, and he is so handsome.
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  Speaker 4: He has great bone structure.
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  Speaker 1: You're just saying that because he kissed you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, that too.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get that.
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  Speaker 4: It was on my cheek, people. On my cheek. Get
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  Speaker 4: your minds out of the filthy gutters.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no. You questioned earlier. I mean, after the kiss
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  Speaker 1: and the hug, I mean, you might be an item now.
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  Speaker 4: Is he my boyfriend now?
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  Speaker 1: I think so. I think that's how it works.
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  Speaker 4: According to playground rules.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This is the rules. We're going out. You held my hand.
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  Speaker 4: We're going out.
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  Speaker 1: This is how it works.
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  Speaker 4: He did shake my hand. Does that count as holding hands?
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  Speaker 1: I did shake his hand, so I guess we're kind of... Uh-oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm moving in on your territory now.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't get a kiss or a hug.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, I am not near as loved as you.
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  Speaker 4: Your boyfriend stayed at home, so it's probably for the best.
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  Speaker 6: He'd probably be like, dude, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Dude, he's very wise. He wouldn't have said anything. He'd
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  Speaker 4: be like, do I get a kiss?
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  Speaker 1: I love Robocop! And he'd be like, yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean he was in Robocop?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah well again this is jay so any of you
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  Speaker 1: that know jay know he forgets most things you're lucky
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  Speaker 1: he remembers to come home sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: That's all he wants for it he comes like straight
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  Speaker 4: home you know but he forgets where he lives.
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  Speaker 1: Or he opens the door he's like who are you
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing here.
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  Speaker 4: That's why i had to dye my hair pink again.
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  Speaker 1: So he can find me that's true that's the only
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  Speaker 1: way he keeps up with you i.
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  Speaker 4: Love him though but anyways yeah i gotta i gotta
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  Speaker 4: kiss on that because i I got the rather regular
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  Speaker 4: option photo to begin with like the straight on which
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  Speaker 4: I hate because I'm so like I have this like
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  Speaker 4: this like I have like five chins so when you
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  Speaker 4: get like that certain angle it's just like earthworm nobody
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  Speaker 4: likes the earthworm come on so I'm like can I
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  Speaker 4: get a selfie so I can get the upward angle
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  Speaker 4: so that I can avoid all the this and he's
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  Speaker 4: like yeah sure so I'm sitting there and I'm getting
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting the selfie like complete downward angle because that
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  Speaker 4: way it's the best angle Next thing I know, there's, like,
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  Speaker 4: Ray Weiss lips, like, coming to my cheek. And there's, like,
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  Speaker 4: a process of the photos. There's, like, regular, then there's
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  Speaker 4: coming in, and there it is, like, with the touching.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, ah! And my face is, like, about
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  Speaker 4: to explode.
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  Speaker 1: You were kind of vibrating at his table.
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  Speaker 4: I was. I can't help it. I was so excited.
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  Speaker 4: So after that, I could relax, because that was my
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  Speaker 4: whole thing.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, That's it.
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  Speaker 4: In his line. First thing. I'm not going to fuck around.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to miss this. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: get there and he has to go somewhere and then
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  Speaker 4: I have to wait. And then lines. No lines. For him.
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  Speaker 1: Sid.
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  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I love Sid Haig. Obviously, we've talked to him many
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  Speaker 1: times over the years. But he had a huge line.
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  Speaker 4: The whole time we were there. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Sid's been around a long time. He hits conventions as
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  Speaker 1: often as we do.
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  Speaker 4: And in the same area.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys not already have him signed? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I have a couple of things signed by him, but
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't in line again.
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  Speaker 4: I would like to think that if you wanted Sid
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  Speaker 4: Haig's autograph, you would have it by now.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think?
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  Speaker 4: He's at so many conventions in this whole area. It's
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  Speaker 4: not like he's been to Indiana like once.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty regular.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know though.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. I love Sid.
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  Speaker 4: He is getting up there.
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  Speaker 1: I guess they gotta like hurry up and sign this.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying this to be bad or mean. He's
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  Speaker 4: looking a little bit on the frail side. So if
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  Speaker 4: he comes to your area and you need to get
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  Speaker 4: it and you don't already have it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess get in line. Be one of those people.
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  Speaker 1: Get in line now.
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  Speaker 4: And he has not raised his prices which I find
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  Speaker 4: absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 1: That is impressive because it's rare these days. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they all kind of hit a price point and everybody
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  Speaker 1: kind of sticks to that price point. So the random
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  Speaker 1: times when I see somebody sort of break the rules
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  Speaker 1: and do their own thing, and especially if they do
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  Speaker 1: the cheap own thing, I'm like, bonus points to you.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Because his is still the standard, buy whatever he has
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  Speaker 4: for 20 bucks. If you want your own thing signed, $ 10.
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  Speaker 4: Free photo with him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's awesome. Like, I wish all conventions were
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  Speaker 1: like that. Granted, I know they have to, like, cover
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  Speaker 1: their own expenses and survive.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of times, it's not the celebrity either.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the whole system. Like I said, it is
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  Speaker 1: an industry now. So, like, you know, people... People have
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  Speaker 1: to kind of go along with the system. But it's
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  Speaker 1: always interesting to see who like bucks the systems. Like, nope,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this my way.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's like he had a line the whole day.
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  Speaker 4: Bill Moseley, another one that we've seen.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty regular.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't give me any cookies.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Didn't give us any cookies this time because it was, again,
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: we're going back quite a ways. But in that very building,
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  Speaker 1: one day he gave us a pecan sandy.
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: Which I don't even like, but you don't turn down
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  Speaker 4: cookies from Bill Moseley.
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  Speaker 1: Not from strangers, but if it's Bill Moseley, it's okay.
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: He's not a stranger.
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  Speaker 1: It may be made of like human body parts or
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  Speaker 1: god knows what but yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would i would be disappointed if it's not yeah.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: I mean still cannibalism it's fine if it's involving bill.
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  Speaker 4: Mosley duh but yeah that's not a great fan it's
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  Speaker 4: a good time.
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  Speaker 1: I mean good i got to see my favorite is
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  Speaker 1: pj souls she is adorable she's adorable every time i
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  Speaker 1: walk by the table i'm like look at her she's
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  Speaker 1: adorable You.
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: Can't fight the power. And there was so many enamel
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  Speaker 4: pins here.
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  Speaker 1: Good Lord. I can't. I can't get any more. There's
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  Speaker 1: too many. I can't do it. I'm out of control.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: And they're making too many at this point, I think. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: anything you've ever heard of that might have been a
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: movie or any sort of pop culture thing, there is
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  Speaker 1: now an enamel pin of it. And the more frustrating
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  Speaker 1: part is I need most of them.
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  Speaker 4: I can't help it.
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  Speaker 1: I seem to think I do. I don't. But I still,
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  Speaker 1: I made myself stop after just a couple. But there
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  Speaker 1: were so many more that I'm like, damn it, I
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: kind of want that one. I kind of want that one.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm ever going to do with
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  Speaker 1: enamel pins other than shove them into a piece of
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  Speaker 1: cork and display them like a dork.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: I showed great reserve. I only bought four enamel pins today.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually pretty minimal or standard depending on the day
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 4: One I have my hand to get because it was
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  Speaker 4: so epically done. It was a pin of Laura Palmer
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  Speaker 4: from Twin Peaks. But the pin itself was wrapped in plastic.
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  Speaker 2: As it should be.
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  Speaker 4: Because the... Is it Kimmy Roberts? Is that her name?
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: Kimmy Roberts? Kimmy Robertson? Roberts or Robertson?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: Lucy?
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  Speaker 4: Lucy. Lucy from Twin Peaks. She was wearing the pin.
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  Speaker 4: And of course the pin was in fact still wrapped
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  Speaker 4: in plastic.
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  Speaker 1: As it should be.
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  Speaker 4: Well, duh.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: Lucy was also adorable. She was wearing her Lucy-esque of glasses.
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  Speaker 1: She was very cute. And then I... I remembered being
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: in other movies, but yeah, she had a shot of
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: her from Last American Virgin. And she was like wearing
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  Speaker 1: a bikini or something. I'm just like, oh, it's cool. Lucy,
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  Speaker 1: look at her. And I'm like, I can't talk to
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: her because then I'll just be like, why? Why did
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: you try to ruin my childhood and any chance of
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: ever having a relationship? Because Last American Virgin just crushes
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: souls and destroys dreams. And it's it's it's harsh. It's
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: a harsh movie.
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  Speaker 4: That's life.
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  Speaker 7: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It's about as disturbing as life.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: It's disturbing.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. You should all go watch it.
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  Speaker 1: But it will change your life. Especially if you're a
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: youngster coming up. Thinking, maybe I want to get in
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 1: Nope. Change my mind. Nope. No relationship for me. Thank you. No. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: She was very cool. She was hanging out. And as usual,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: we saw our constantly rotating semi-family of convention people. Not
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  Speaker 1: just the guests, but now just vendors. We saw a
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: previous guest on the show, Beldy, who I've not seen
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  Speaker 1: in several years. It's just random people that we only
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  Speaker 1: see at conventions.
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  Speaker 4: The vendors.
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  Speaker 1: Many vendors. Bel was one of them. We never had
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Todd on. We saw Todd one time.
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: There's several vendors that we see. We've seen enough at
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  Speaker 4: conventions that it's like, and whether or not they actually
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: remember our names or not which some of them do
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: some of them pretty sure don't but.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and a random person that just like a random
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: goer that has run into you before and remembered.
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  Speaker 4: Who you are because i'm awesome if you tell yourself
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  Speaker 4: that i do all the time every.
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  Speaker 1: Day yourself i do that a lot easily identifiable in
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  Speaker 1: crowds like that weirdly.
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: Am i identifiable or is cory identifiable well people love
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: cory too but It was apparently some lady that I'd
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: ran into several days of the dead ago. And her husband.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: And we apparently had ran into them at the convention.
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  Speaker 4: And we started talking about Corey Haim. And I flaunted
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: my Corey Haim tattoo. And I had to find the
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: picture of me and Corey Haim. And it was a
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: delightful exchange. And they saw me. And I was like,
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: why are these people looking at me? Why are they
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: waving like they think they know me?
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: You're internationally known, Misty.
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  Speaker 4: But am I known to rock a microphone?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway so it's always weird seeing people that I
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: mean I remember them once they started talking to me
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  Speaker 4: but I am like the worst when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: remembering people because half the time I just kind of
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  Speaker 4: zone out like I'm literally I can look right at
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  Speaker 4: you and just like whatever just because I'm not trying
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  Speaker 4: to be an ass I'm just I'm probably thinking about
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  Speaker 4: something else I'm probably trying to figure out where the
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  Speaker 4: pens are you know and animal pens are a priority
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  Speaker 4: so sometimes I just it's not like I was trying
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  Speaker 4: to be like I don't and I just have a.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Horrible memory You're antisocial and you can't remember shit. So
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: trying to interact with people that you've met before, it
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: leads to trouble.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, when she mentioned the conversation, I instantly remembered it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's just because you're known around the world.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: I am. Or at least around the Days of the
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Dead con with my gory tattoo. Good times.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: So, before we get to our super awesome special guest,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: hey Misty, have you seen anything lately?
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Speaking of our special guest, I watched season two of Reaper,
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: which broke my heart because now I know there's none more.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that later. We're working on that, but
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: Because, yeah, it's like I put it off for a while.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: I watched the first season and I loved it. And
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: then I put off the second season for a little
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: while because I knew that once I finished it, it
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: would be over. And I'm not good with that. I'm like,
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: it's sad and I get attachment issues and I'm just like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: The longer I put it off, the longer it'll last.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: So I stayed up till like 2.30, 3 o'clock in
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: the morning last night, finishing up season two. I don't
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: know why I felt the need to do that or
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: why I didn't just start it earlier in the evening.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: But no, we're going to wait till 10 o'clock to
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: finish the last five episodes. Good planning there, Misty.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: You do a lot of crazy things.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: And it was fantastic. I literally cannot say enough good
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: things about that show. I'm tired. It's been a long day.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I went to bed at 3 o'clock. I watched it
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: until 2.30. I went to bed at 3. And then
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: boyfriend snores, so I probably didn't get that much sleep
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: last night. But, yeah, it was amazing. It's one of those,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: and it's just... I love that show. I love everything
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: about it. It's really one of the most well-written shows
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: that has possibly ever existed. Mostly in part to the cast, too. Because,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, if they had cast anybody else as the devil,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think that I would have cared.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was so right. I do remember when they
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: first announced that, I'm like, well, of course. There is
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: no more perfect casting. Yes. This is exactly who you
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: need to cast as the devil.
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: He's so damn dastardly sometimes. And dashing. I know, right?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: He is. He usually was on there. He was always
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: very well dressed, as I'm assuming the devil would be. Oh, yeah.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: He was quite well-dressed today. Yeah. Quite snazzy. He wasn't wearing, like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: a tie or anything. He was wearing, like, a suit. Like, jacket.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, jacket. Shirt. He was probably wearing shoes. I wouldn't
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: look him that close.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure there were vans.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Actually, yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I do kind of remember that. Because I was just like,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of dorky thing I would wear, only
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I'd prefer Chuck's. But, you know, he's free to go
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: the Vans route.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: We are both currently wearing Chuck's.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: We are both currently wearing Chuck's, like most of the time.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: That's like, if I'm not at work, Chuck's.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Occasionally, like when it gets winter time, I've got some
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: nice boots. Oh, no. Some nice industrial boots that I.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: But Chuck's is pretty much my go-to. All-terrain boots. Boyfriend
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: gives me shit because I go hiking in them. He's like,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Chucks aren't hiking shoes. I'm like, Chucks are everything shoes.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: They're a sporting shoe. They were made for basketball.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Do you know technically they're a house shoe? That's what
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: I read a long time ago. Converse gets away with
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: paying less taxes on their shipments because the bottoms of
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Chucks are slightly fuzzy and therefore can be classified as
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: house shoes instead of regular shoes. Have you ever wondered
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: why the bottom of Chucks are so much fuzzy?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: What?
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Don't look at me like that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I don't remember noticing that they were fuzzy. Mine feel
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: kind of rubbery, but.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know if mine still have any fuzz in them. Like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: see how it's a little bit fuzzier around here?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, that inside part looks kind of weird, but
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that's just because they're Chucks. They can do what they want.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: That's what I read a long time ago. I mean,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I could be completing other bullshit, but that's what I've always.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna wear a shoe around the house.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: chucks is the way to go i'm wearing shoes in
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: the house we're not even.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Sponsored by chucks but i feel like we should be
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: because we talk about them all the damn time but
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: they're great shoes but if if ray wants to go
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: to the vans route you know that he is free
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: free to be you and me it's all good at
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: least they weren't velcro thank goodness but i've got one
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: i remembered it's been several weeks now i think when
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: i didn't have anything last time i totally forgot about
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it which may say a little about this movie But
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I thought it would be good because if I remember,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I think you mentioned seeing it. I saw Winchester.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I did not see it. I did not want to
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: see it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: Maybe you just complained about the trailer.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I complained about it because they cheapened the entire story.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: And it just seems like it's a whole fucking movie
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: based on jump scares. Which considering the actual history and
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: the movie itself, the movie could have been more interesting
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: and the story is way more interesting. But it seems
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: like they played it as a cheap jump scare movie.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: It's funny, because I wouldn't have categorized it as a
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: jump scare movie at all.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Well, from the trailer, that's what I got. It looks
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: like it just relies on.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: There could be a few, but they're not standout. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: don't really remember that being the way that it felt
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like they were trying to take it. That's my thing.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: The takeaway is, first and foremost, what the hell is
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Helen Mirren thinking? I assume she lost a bet or something.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Because she seems like way above and beyond.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Not this idea, not this genre, but the level that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: this movie delivers is not Helen Mirren level. No offense
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to them, but it's just not.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I did not. I just have not had a real interest.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: But it's not bad. It's just like by the end,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, Meh, okay.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I'll Netflix see it eventually.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's not... Again, I wouldn't tell people
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: not to watch it, but I'm like, don't expect much?
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's some cool... Again, it's mostly just the
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: idea of the house and the idea of the concept,
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: which is all real, so, like, the movie itself doesn't
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: really get points for that because they just took that
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: from the real world. So the idea of what's going
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: on is cool, but that's a real thing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, the actors, the other couple of actors are
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: just kind of a handful of regular, you know, of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the regular cast. There's a bunch of random servants and
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: people building stuff. But for the most part, it's just
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: two or three other people. And, like, they're fine, you know. But, like,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: none of them are, like, Helen Mirren level. Like, even then,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I was just like, what's going on in this movie?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So by the end, I'm like, okay, you decided to go.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Because it's sort of a setting up the story and
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: setting up her backstory of, like, why she's doing what
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: she's doing. And then it gets midway in and, like, okay,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: now you have to, like, pick a direction of how
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it's going to end. So they do. And I'm just like, oh,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you went with that. All right. It's not, again, I'm
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: not like, oh, I hated it. I'm just like, all right,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that's the way you chose. Because you have to kind
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: of find a way, a path to take it down
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: for the finale-ish thing. And it happened. I'm like, all right, whatever.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So not really a rave review, but it's a review.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I saw it. Hand going, eh. You can't see how
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: it's going, but it's back and forth. I see it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: It's wishy-washy.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, Winchester. You do see a lot of guns.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I've been there. I've been to the Winchester Mansion. It's crazy. Again,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: when you're in there, does it feel as big as
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it supposedly is? Or that, or we just didn't go
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: to a lot of places? I don't know.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Again, the concept of what's going on, that was kind
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: of like I was still kind of on board the
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: first half hour or so when they're still explaining... what
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: she's doing, and then that there is a reason why
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: she's doing what she's doing. When it seemed like, again,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the way I always heard it in the real world
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: was just like she seemed like a crazy person who
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was doing the things that she's doing. But when you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: put it in context of at least the way they
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: present it in this movie, I'm like, okay, well, it
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: actually does make sense why she was doing these crazy things.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And what way they put it, because I mean, I
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: know what they told us at the mansion is that
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: she was very heavy into psychics and the psychics told
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: her to appease the spirits of all the people that
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: had died. from the weapons that her husband helped make
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and invent to appease the spirits because her husband and
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: her son died. So she figured the vengeful spirits were
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: out to get her. So when she talked to the
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: spiritualist or the psychic or whatever, he told her that
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: to appease the spirits, they had to continually keep working
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: on the house. And as long as she worked on
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: the house, everything would be okay and that they would
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: be pleased.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: See, it was even more... pinned down than that and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I kind of like the way that they took it
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: within the movie which was something again it's been a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: few weeks so I'm paraphrasing or making up my own
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: version of it but basically it's something in the effect
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of she was almost like she would almost hear what
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: was going on with this current whatever a new spirit
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: would show up she would kind of like have you
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: know visions and conversations and stuff and she would figure
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: out what its story was and then was trying to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: help them so she would actually like build rooms for
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: them And some of them had ways that they could
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: work through their problems and move on to the next
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: plane of existence or whatever they were doing. And there
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: were other ones that were like angry spirits that needed
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to be walled up. So that's why there would be
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: rooms that would just be like locked up forever was
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: because the spirit was trapped in there to keep it
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: from attacking people or whatever.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I don't remember there being rooms that were specifically locked up.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Aside from the ones that maybe had been damaged during
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: the earthquake.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And it was also like when she would like build
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: something and then like tear it down and move on
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and build something else in its place that was also
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: like a new spirit would move in like she would
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: finish like one would be dealt with she would take
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: care of that problem the spirit would be gone so
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: we didn't need that room anymore.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: So the house becomes a monster of the week story
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: pretty much.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But they don't do that we get to like one
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: kind of they sort of focus on one by the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: end of it i guess it would work better as
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a tv series actually and you could literally go through
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and each week a new ghost would show up a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: new backstory and so we need to like Friday the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: 13th TV series, this thing.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Supernatural with the Winchesters at the Winchester.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, for the love of God.
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: There's more than enough Supernatural.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going with mine. Like 14 fucking seasons. Antiques and stuff.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: That's what we need in a horror series. More antiques. Yeah,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I guess so that became like the reasoning why she
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: was doing these crazy things. Why she'd set up this, oh,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: we're going to build a gazebo. And then like a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: month and a half later, okay, tear down that gazebo.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And it's because in actuality, she'd finished with this problem
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: spirit and it moved on to its next plane. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: we don't need that anymore. And some new thing moved
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: in and we need a new room built to survive.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: sort of cater to this ghost that needs to go there.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm feeling this.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I don't know that that's true to the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: real story, but I thought it was an interesting thing
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: within the context of what was going on here, and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: it made her seem not like a crazy person, unless
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Believe in the kind of stuff she believes in, but
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: at least it followed logic.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Like, I was kind of okay with the fact that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just insanity, it was for a reason, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: very specific reasons why she was doing these seemingly to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: other people in the world crazy, crazy things.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I was okay with that part. Then it just kind
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of gets boring in the middle, and the wrap-up is, eh, okay.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So, I don't know.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: There's some cool visuals. The special effects, for what I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: assuming is a pretty minimal budget movie, look pretty decent.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: So, I don't remember any of that being a problem.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: They spent all their money getting Helen Mirren.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it. Or I'm sticking with my
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: lost a bit.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I watched a couple of movies.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Alright, what would they be?
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: One I know you already discussed, I'm pretty sure, that
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: would be the, uh, The Jumanji movie, the new, the
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: rock version of Jumanji.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: All right. What was, wait, I think we covered on
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: a previous episode, you hadn't seen the original.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I had not seen the original.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You still haven't seen.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I've not, I still haven't seen the original.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: So to me, this will be interesting because I'd seen
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: the other one. So what is your take on it
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: as a coming in fresh into the Jumanji world?
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I don't feel like I lost much.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you need it, but
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I just want your version of it was not having
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: seen the other one.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I guess I didn't have anything to compare it to.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: So I didn't have the story, the original story. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: didn't have, you know, it's hard to compete with Robin Williams.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: He was, I mean, he was Robin Williams, you know.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It still isn't like a typical Robin Williams movie. It
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is one of those that it was weird that they
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: cast him. I think he's, you know, he's good at it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: He's fun in most things he's in, but it didn't
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: have to be Robin where so many other Robin Williams movies,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: like it just would not float. It flat out wouldn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: work without Robin Williams doing the Robin Williams thing that
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: holds the plot together. Where this one, again, you can
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: substitute in The Rock and it kind of works. I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: think you could substitute in a whole new group of
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: people and do another sequel and the idea is still
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: what kind of sells the movie. Robin Williams was just
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: like a bonus because he's awesome and he's Robin Williams.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: I think the thing that most impressed me is that
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I could not remember the last time that I was
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: not annoyed with Jack Black.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hit and miss. There are performances I love
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: from Jack Black and then there's times when he just
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: feels like he's cashing a check in like He just
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: does the Jack Black thing that he knows people want
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: from a Jack Black role. I still don't want to.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Watch the Goosebumps movie just because he's in it.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that does seem like a weird take.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: But Jumanji, I thought he was a lot of fun.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And again, I think I said before, I was like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a guy playing a teenage girl could go horribly wrong.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: He could just be really cheesy and over the top.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And I think he does a nice balance where you
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: do kind of buy that he's tapping into some sort
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: of feminine thing.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, he's kind of hilarious. Nothing's
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: funnier than him going to.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Take a pee.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: That was pretty funny.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: His line to the other girl was the funniest damn
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: thing in the movie. So, yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: I don't remember what it was. What was it?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's something. I don't remember what's her face.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: The redhead girl's name.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Karen Gillan?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Whatever her name is. She's like... Yeah, it is Martha.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: She's like, Martha, come look at my penis.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: That was pretty funny.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I guess had you never encountered that before,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that would be, you know, not only your response, but
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you'd want to share it. You know, hey, check this out.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Look what I got. I just got it. Oh, man. Yep.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He was funny. In the rock. Karen Gillian's badass.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't beat Karen.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Karen Gillan's just awesome.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Usually I'm pretty anti the redheads, which we've all heard before.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: The gingers.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: I'm anti-gingers. I'm okay with redheads now. There's a difference,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: because there's a fucking difference.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: There's kind of a difference, yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Ed Sheeran's a ginger. Fuck that guy. But Karen Gillan's
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: a redhead.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's fine, but Karen Gillan is extra fine.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I mean, I've loved everything that I've seen
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: her in, which I've only, like, three things. But Oculus
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: was fucking amazing.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: She's great in that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: And I loved when she was on Doctor Who.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And Guardians of the Galaxy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I always forget that she's in it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I know, because she's unidentified. That's the part that I'm
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: just like, I can't believe she took that role. Number one,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: she shaved her head. Number two, she went through God
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: knows how many hours of makeup. And then on top
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: of that, you don't even get the bonus of like, look,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I'm a big star in this movie. You see me
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: on screen all the time. Like, you do. You don't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: know it's me most of the time. If you didn't
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: see the poster out front with my name slapped on it,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't even ID me. But again, that points
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to her. She totally like, becomes that character so much
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: i kind of forget it's her she's a badass yep
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: she is and shows it off in this movie. Her
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: crazy fighting skills.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Her ruby roundhouse up in that bitch. Was it dance fighting?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Dance fighting.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: That's pretty great.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts about it is because it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: moved into the gaming world now, You get gaming jokes like, hey,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he's a non-player. Don't worry about it. He's like, he'll
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: just keep saying that. Don't go back over there. Or the,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: what was the other? There's a couple of nice little
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: gamer nods along the way that I'm just like, that's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: fun because it's not being overly in your face self-aware,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: but it's self-aware enough that the gamer geeks watching it
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: are like, okay, there's a joke for me. Like it's
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: specifically for gamer.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And how much do I love Nick Jonas?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Nick Jonas is pretty damn cool. He is. Again, I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: expected him to just be a minor little side character.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: He's a pretty sizable character halfway in. I kind of
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: like his story. The weird wraparound portion of it. It's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: pretty cool, actually.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I'm usually not the comedy type.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: This falls somewhere in between with everything.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Like action and comedy?
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like it's action, it's.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Comedy, it's video game weirdness.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Usually I'm just like, god damn it, there better be
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: some horror or I'm not even fucking ballering.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you've said that word for word before.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: But this one, yeah, I think it falls so in
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the middle of a couple of different genres that it's
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: kind of its own weird thing and it works on
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: all levels. I was surprised how good it was.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I gave it two thumbs up. I've never even seen
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the original, so I mean, I don't know if watching
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: the original would be like, if it would make it
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: any different, if it would enhance it any, or if
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: it's just kind of, that's the way it is, or
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: if it's just, I mean, I don't know if it
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: would make me like the second one.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't think it would make a
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: difference because that's, that's what I thought was so cool
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: about it is it's, it acknowledges the other one happened,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: but it does not tie to it almost at all.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: With the exception of like, again, a kind of tie
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: in from the beginning that like picks up almost where
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the other one left off, but in its own, like
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: it picks up and goes an entirely different direction. And
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: then there's a reference to the other character for, like,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a second midway in. Like, the name on the tree. Which,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: whether or not that meant anything to you, but, like,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it is the character from the first movie. What's his name?
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: Robin Williams.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: It just says Robin Williams was here. That's what it
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: says on the tree.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And, like, basically it's just acknowledging that more or less, like,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: there's a section where, you know, his character like, disappears
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: into Jumanji land and, like, now you see this is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: where he was, essentially. Now it's just been morphed with
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: video games rules on top of that but the Jumanji
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: jungle idea like seems to exist and whether it becomes
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: a board game or a video game or whatever the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: hell it's going to become next like it's just the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: alternate reality jungle thing is just sort of always there
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and always exists and I thought that was kind of
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: cool that was a cool tie in but it doesn't
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: make you need to see the other one at all
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: like it just sort of acknowledges.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: I liked it two thumbs up if I had more
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: thumbs I'd give it more thumbs I also watched another
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: movie Which one? I set myself up for this one.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: What have you done?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: It was boyfriend's birthday.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: That's right. I told you not to even tell. Let's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: just get to it later.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: But I knew you were going to be in trouble
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: because it's one of those.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe every couple is like this, but you cross over
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: in a lot of areas because you're both geeks. But
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: there's always some things that you're not going to see
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: exactly eye to eye on. And there's going to be
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: some like... No, I don't want to go down that path.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And then the other one has to go sit by
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: themselves and watch it kind of thing. You definitely cross
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: over in a few areas like that where neither of
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you want anything to do with the other thing. And
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming we're coming to one of those right now.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Because as soon as I say, well, what do you
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: want to watch? As soon as it came out of
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: my mouth, I'm like, oh shit, what did I just
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: set myself up for? What have I done?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Sucker.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Because literally as soon as it came out of my mouth,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I know what I want to watch. I know what
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I want to watch. I'm like, son of a bitch.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: What did I just get myself into? What have I
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: been fighting all these years? I know you gotta guess.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: So many things. I don't know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: I gave you a big hint earlier. He's not Beastmaster.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: He is no Beastmaster. Fucking Conan the Barbarian.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he has mentioned that many times over the years.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: How many times? How damn many?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: And now it makes sense because he randomly posted a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: meme from Conan the other day.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I saw that and went, why? Where did that come from?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It's just the besmirch the women or whatever. I'm pretty
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: sure I'm getting that line wrong.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty sure.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. That whole little line.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Lamentations of your women. Oh, Lord.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I like mine better. I mean, I recently, in the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: last few years, went back and rewatched it for an episode.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I was okay.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: Actually, I remembered it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Being different than it was so i don't know what
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was your take on it having not seen it at
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: all or knowing as little as you could help to
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: know about it it's.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: No beast master well because to me most things can't
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: be it's another one of those things that you fall
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: into two categories you're either elvis or the beatles or
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: you're fucking beast master or conan and i was born
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: and raised on on beast master it's like i.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Feel like there's people out there that like both I mean,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: there are dorks that grew up in the VHS era
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and just watched anything with a sword on the front
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: of it, you know. So they probably saw both and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: were just like, cool, people getting stabbed and shit.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I'm very passionate about this.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I'm Team Beastmaster.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I'm Team Beastmaster. I mean, between the two, I'm still
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Team Beastmaster. But I respect what was going on with Conan.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: So what is your issues with Conan?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It just didn't seem to have any, like, real development
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: for the characters for me. Whereas at least, I mean... Beastmaster,
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: you know what he's after, pretty much. You know, he's
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: going to go do stuff, and he's going to be
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: awesome about it. And he has the things, and he
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: can talk to the animals. You don't know why Conan's
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: going anywhere. I mean, you kind of get the idea
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: that he wants to go get revenge for his parents' deaths,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: but he never really talks about it. All of a sudden,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: you're at the end, and he's like, oh, you're going
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: to die! And I'm like, dude, your parents did not
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: talk like that. Where did you get that shitty accent?
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: Austria.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: So I was watching, when his dad was talking in
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: the beginning, I'm listening, and I'm like, alright, your dad
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: doesn't have that accent. We never really hear his mom
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: say anything. I'm like, maybe she had a crazy ass accent.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It didn't seem, there was no real development.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: I didn't care about the characters at all.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I can see having this connect because that was my, again,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I had watched it as a kid and was like, cool, swords.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And then going back and re-watching it just in the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: last few years, I was like, it's way more like
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: art house. Like the director is like, the director is, is,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: is trying to make, you know, Excalibur. He's trying to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: make an art house film that also happens to have
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a dude with a sword that occasionally like beheads people
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and shit. But like, it's still like, there's not a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: lot of talking. It's, it's cool visuals, but like, it's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: not really heavy on explaining the story. Like it is
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: trying to be more visual and more like cool and artsy,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: but like, it doesn't fall into the normal sword and sandal, like,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: fun and game this kind of stuff like it's way
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: more artsy than I remembered it being as a kid
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and that's the difference like Conan the Destroyer is way
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: more mainstream like sword and sandal VHS movies that I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: again grew up watching tons of we didn't get that
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: for you it feels it feels pretty much so again
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: you might actually have fun with that that one also
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: has like a motley crew of goofballs which include like
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Grace Jones and, uh, Wilt Chamberlain and, uh, what's the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: princess is, uh, Olivia Diabo.
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: So, I mean, like everybody, like, again, if you're a geek,
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: you're like, Oh, it's them.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, it's them.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Look at this.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: So like, it's a nice little crew and they have
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: like the, that one dude that was every TV show
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: for years is like stealing stuff. And the other guy's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the sword man who also happens to be super tall
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: for some weird reason. I don't know. It's like, it
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: is so.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: Much more a conventional, uh, adventure kind of a sword.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Movie that I think most people respond, which is funny
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: because between the two, it got way worse of a reputation. Like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I guess the old school Conan fans didn't like that one,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, to me, it's way more of a
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like acceptable mainstream action movie than like what the artsy
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Conan original movie was.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: I just got tired of it because they kept cutting
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: out the action. Like it'd be like, Oh, there's a
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: pack of wolves coming at him.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Cutscene.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: All right. Now he's wearing the fucking wolves. You don't
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: see any of the action. Or when the girl's sneaking
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: up on the meeting of all the snake people. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: she's sneaking up on one of the girls. Next thing
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: you know, she's in the outfit. There was no scuffle.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, that girl's gone. She's in her outfit.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: You're expecting way too much out of me. I want
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: to see what's going on sometimes. I want to know
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: that he fucking earned them fucking wolves.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: I think because they know, the wolves would kick his ass.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Arnold can't take on some wolves.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: There's a whole bunch of them, too. I mean, I
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: just didn't like that. Just the whole, don't lead me
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: out of the fucking action. If I have committed to
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: this fucking movie, you owe me.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Arnold's not Liam Neeson. Can't take on a pack of wolves.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Fucking A. It just, I don't know. It just didn't
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: feel like as, I didn't have any connection to any
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: of the characters.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. Again,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: there's aspects of it I like, but it's certainly not
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: my go-to sword and sandal movie. I think it's not as.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: Much fun as so many of the other ones ended
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: up being. Kind of after the fact.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: A lot of them came after Conan, kind of mimicking
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: what they started with, and then added a whole lot
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: more fun to it, if you ask me. Yeah, I
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: can see that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I'm still going to be Beastmaster all the way.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You can't. I mean, you can't go wrong
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: with Beastmaster. It's got everything.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's got ferrets.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Ferrets?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And black tigers and hawks.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Oh my.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I kept waiting for the rave scene and it like
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: never happened. I was waiting for the glow sticks and.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I think you're only watching it via like JPEGs.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: GIFs.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: GIFs and JPEGs and memes and lamentings of the women.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Lambasting of the women besmirchings of the women i mean
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: it wasn't bad i didn't hate it i wasn't like
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: oh my god but i just it's.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Again it's it is not what i remembered it being
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and it's definitely not what i came to expect from
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of the more silly you know fun over
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the top sword and sandal kind.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Of movies And the guy turning into a snake was
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: just horrible.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't the best effects, I'll tell you.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: It was horrible effects. Their bad guy was no Rip Torn,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that right fucking now.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Not everybody can beat Rip Torn.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Is he still alive?
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Didn't he rob a bank or something?
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't doubt it. Dude's crazy.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: He does a lot of crazy shit, that Rip Torn.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: In fact, he tries to kill babies is what I heard.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Throws them into the fire. Makes them toasty.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: He's a crazy old bastard.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: As they tend to be.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Speaking of throwing babies on the fire, let's take a break.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: You can get a snack if you want. Roast a
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: baby or popcorn or whatever you're into.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: You know somebody actually roasts a baby, we're going to
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: get in so much trouble. Don't roast a baby. Service
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: announcement from Misty.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: Pretty sad when we have to have you doing the
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: safety announcements.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Have some, I don't know. I'd say fried chicken or something,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: but then people don't want you killing chicken. I don't know.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Go have a carrot or something. We'll be back.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I swear this wizard will fall.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Cause this has begun.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: They murdered them all.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm the last one.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: I issued the call.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Revenge for my mom.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I pray to you, God.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: the lamentation of the women. Hungry?
• 42:01
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• 42:05
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• 42:09
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• 42:12
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• 42:16
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• 42:19
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• 42:22
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• 42:25
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• 42:28
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• 42:32
  Speaker 7: not just meat with barbecue sauce. They're pit-cooked barbecues.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, Sterling.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: You like coffee.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I do like coffee.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: In fact, we're drinking coffee right now.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Funny enough, we are.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: You know where you should get your coffee.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Where should I get my coffee?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I think you should go to Heine Brothers and get
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: your coffee.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Heine Brothers?
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I think I used to work there.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: You probably did. A lot of people in this town.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what Louisville is.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: They're kind of like taking over. Actually, driving this past week,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: there was a place that used to be. I won't
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: even out them as the failed massive franchise that they are.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: But they had this place, and it was sitting next
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to the road, and they sold coffee, and now suddenly
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: they're gone.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Actually, I think I know exactly what you're talking about.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I just noticed it.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: This week, and now they're gone.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It's empty, but it's already painted up with the Heine
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Brothers sign. Coming soon, another Heine Brothers location.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: You know, you say they're taking over. I say they're
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  Speaker 3: our number one community coffee.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Just saying they are and I mean that literally yeah
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I mean I that is kind of why I'm like
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you know it is interesting how much they've they've continued
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: to spread and become super successful but yet they're completely
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: independent they they were started Out of this town by
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of guys and they came up with this
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: process and this general idea of what they wanted to create.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of cool that it's been accepted by
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: people and like people signed on and like, not only
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: do we like your coffee, but we like the idea
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: of this little community that you've created around this coffee
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: shop and this series of now many coffee shops.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: And moreover, Mike Mays, you know, one of our prominent
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  Speaker 3: leading businessmen in the, in the community. And I, one
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: thing I can definitely say is that, you know, Heine
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Brothers has, like many local businesses, been deeply involved in
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: charity work and stuff around town, and that's great. But
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: the thing I like most about buying Heine Brothers coffee,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: if you don't mind me saying, is the fact that
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I know that the person behind the counter that's getting
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: paid with the wage from this, like my first job
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: when I got to Louisville was working at Heine Brothers.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: their first job out of college or in college or
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: whatever is.
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  Speaker 2: Working at hiding.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So to my mind, uh, the nice thing is just
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: you knowing that, you know, you're talking to people who
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: are going through a cycle that I think is actually
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: part of the common life that we have.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Here in town. So, well, and I was talking with
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: a couple of recent guests. I was like, I, I,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you know, mentioned like, that's one of the cool things
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: that's happened this past year or so is that they,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: came on board and they were like even people outside
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: of our town were just like wow that's really cool
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and that's one of the things i think is really
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: impressive is that they've gotten to this point they're a
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: successful local business they've branched out and and done more
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and more and have helped not just charities but you
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: see them giving back to other people like Other independent
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: operations like, I don't know, Movie Meltdown that couldn't exit. Well,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. There are so many people I've gone
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to over the years trying to keep this show running.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Great job, by the way.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I just won't hear back from, or people have
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: gotten involved and then disappeared really quickly. And the fact
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that they came on board and have continued to support
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: us is a really big thing. And I've even started
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: to see them doing it with other shows.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, I don't think that's a bad thing.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: I'm like, cool.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Seek out these new different places to not just advertise yourself,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: but to also end doing that you're supporting these independent
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: artists and operations that are trying to do something outside
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: of the norm and normally bigger businesses won't have anything
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to do with that unless it's cut and dried the
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: generic way that we've always done advertising or however we
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: spread the word about our business you know we only
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: go through newspaper ads because you know that's what the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: kids read today well and that's and that's actually incredibly
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: vital especially for those of us uh like yourself and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: myself who are part of the independent arts community I'd
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: like to think that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Would you mind if I stuck in a promo myself?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Feel free.
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  Speaker 4: Excellent.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking as a member of the independent arts community,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: the theater community to be specific, which also thrives on
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: non-traditional businesses giving us their okay to slap a logo
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: on a program for a show that you've never heard of.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I'll be working with the Alley Theater once again, bringing
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: back our Star Trek boldly going way too far.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Way too far.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Uh, this will be the third mounting of the show
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: that we, uh, premiered and originated, uh, uh, about four
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: years ago, I think at this point, uh, which is
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: kind of amazing because it was a freewheeling, exciting thing.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: We first threw it together in like a couple of
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: months to, to put it on, to put it on,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: but it'll be coming back this July, uh, the 12th
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: through the 28th, I believe.
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Uh, so mark your calendars.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, it is an exciting show where we take an
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: adventure through all the different series and of the franchise and,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: throw in some references and some jokes about other franchises
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: as well. And it's really not only a celebration of
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Star Trek and all things Star Trek, but also of
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: the weirdness and goofiness that's fundamental, in my opinion, to
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: the show. And not only is that the case, but also,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: if you arrive and if you are selected to be
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: one of the unlucky few, you too can come up
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: on stage and be a red shirt. You will be
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: given a red shirt and the job of dying to
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: defend one of the more important cast members... before the
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: scene is done.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: It's not going to end well when you put on
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the red shirt. No, it won't.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: But, you know, as a friend of mine once said,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: hypothetical scenario, space is being traversed by the human race,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: and we're traveling to new planets every day, and they
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: say to you, you too can join Starfleet, and they
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: offer you a red shirt.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Would you say yes?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: The truth is, I think most of us, dear listener,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: would indeed say yes, if it meant that we got
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: to be on the bridge of the Enterprise.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Or it'd be like, eh, I'd have to get up
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and leave the house. I mean, I'm connected on the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: internet to everything I need.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: The 23rd century is no place for slackers.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to have to go out on adventures.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: That seems like a lot of work. Adventures are.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Now you're talking like a 21st century geek.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I keep seeing our society do. It's
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: just like, I don't want to leave the house.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Eventually, that's going to be all of our pop culture heroes.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: They're not going to be the people who are like,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: heck yeah, I want to go on an adventure. They're
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: going to be the people who are like, oh man,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: do I have to defeat the Dark Lord?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be more like, I'm going to put
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: this headset on and go and digitally take on the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: universe from right here on my sofa.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Dude, I think we've given Ready Player One way too
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: much of our time.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: So all that having been said, I think you should
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: go to hineybrothers.com. Slash subscription and sign up for the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: coffee subscription. And that way you don't even have to
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: live down the street from that new one that they're building.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: You actually can live wherever you want across the country.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe even other countries. You should check the website. But yeah,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: that way you can have coffee delivered to your door
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to do anything.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Fabulous.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Like everybody in this.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: Society seems to want to do just kind of hang out.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: At their house that's certainly the image we're painting of
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: it right now as we sit on my couch videos.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: On your youtube and drink your coffee that's delivered right
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to your porch what else do you want so yeah
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: just if you can't spell honey again maybe you're not
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: from this town you don't know how they spell honey brothers.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Just ask a local just go to.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Movie meltdown.com right there on the right hand side of
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the page there's a button. There's a little logo that
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: says Heine Brothers Coffee. You click on that, it'll take
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: you right to the website. And then, when you're there,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: more importantly, you use the code MELTDOWN, and you get
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: $ 5 off your order, and that's what we're doing for you. Again,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: we're trying to give back to you.
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: I'd buy that for a dollar.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: And Five of them. You'll have five extra ones once you.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Use this code. Meltdown. And from there, you can sit
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and have extra money to invest in your online internet obsession.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: So, for instance, if you happen to stumble onto a
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Patreon page for a particular podcast.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to say Movie Meltdown slash Patreon.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: But it's a circular business model, and it would really
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: be great if the money that you save thanks to
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: this podcast also goes into... This podcast.
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: That's not Mr. Meltdown over here proclaiming this. I'm just
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: a random guy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say patreon.com slash movie meltdown. But,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you know, if you accidentally went there or the link
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to that that's on that same right hand side, I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: not going to tell you not to give money to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: a certain movie on Patreon page that's, you know, surviving only.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: by you guys and the wonderful people at Heine Brothers
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: so this is the only way we survive is help
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: from other people and that's how you build an awesome
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: artistic community of people using the funds that are created
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: through whatever you do and then giving it back to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: other people to do other cool interesting things and then
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: it becomes a circle and we all we support those
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: businesses that support the independent cool stuff like Heine Brothers
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: yeah so it all it all comes full circle so
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying go do all of that Wow, that
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: was a great promo.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Go there right now. I'm going to drink some more coffee.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: There's my coffee mug right there.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I'm Peter Weller, and you're listening to Movie.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: Meltdown.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Your move, creep. It's part of your problem, you know.
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: You haven't seen enough movies.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: And now, on with the show.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: So now now on my birthday he has to watch
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: whatever i want to watch oh he's in trouble i
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: can't decide what to go with first i was singing
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: the last unicorn.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Oh do you think that's gonna drive him crazy probably
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time since I've seen Last Unicorn.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember 99% of it.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: Boyfriend ruined pizza rolls for me. Now I can't eat them.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: What has he done?
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: He smashed his finger at work. And his description to
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: me as to what happened was that the insides oozed
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: out like a pizza roll when it's done.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: That's massively gross. I'm not surprised. It does seem like
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: something they would say and do.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: That's how you know the pizza rolls are done. It's true.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: They're either ice cold or they're leaking.
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: After he smashed it, did he have that weird little corner?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: The corner was.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: The best part. The little crispy corner.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: That's what you can pick it up by.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: You got that little corner to get a hold of
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and throw it in.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: But now I legit can't even eat pizza rolls anymore.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: I had to get bagel bites instead.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: And you call yourself a cannibal. I don't. Do I?
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I think earlier we did, didn't we?
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: We were eating cookies. Cannibal cookies.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with cannibal cookies.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: But when I attach certain imagery to certain foods, I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: just can't eat it anymore.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, what if Bill Moseley gave you a pizza roll?
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: Is it currently exploding?
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: It's fresh and warm from the oven, but not too
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: hot to burn you.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: There's no option. It's either ice cold or it's scalding
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: the inside of your mouth. There is no in-between with
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: pizza rolls or Hot Pockets. It's either frozen on the
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: inside or it's like the atomic pits of hails.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Yep. Well, we're back talking pizza rolls and the pits
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: of hell. Speaking of hell, I think we should go
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: talk to this week's guest.
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  Speaker 4: That's an epic tie-in, by the way.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: That was pretty amazing.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: See? I set up that tie-in.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Our guest this week is the devil and we're sitting
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: in the pits of hell having pizza rolls. You see
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: how all this is coming together now.
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  Speaker 4: He's a handsome devil, by the way.
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: That he is.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: You, I guess, are kind of back in.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: The heartland here. You're originally from Ohio?
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Akron, Ohio, yeah, my hometown. Born and raised there. I
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: went to Kent State University, graduated from there in 1969.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: I went on to New York, and I was in
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: New York for a couple of weeks, and I walked
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: into an open audition at CBS and got a soap
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: opera called Love of Life.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Which, quite a few years.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was on.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: That for almost eight years, I suppose. Yeah, and I
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: did something around 950 half-hour episodes of that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: And that was my big training ground. That's a lot
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: of hours. And while I was doing that show, I
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: was doing stage work in New York. I was off,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: off Broadway, off Broadway, and on Broadway. I did a
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: couple shows on Broadway. Romeo and Juliet on Broadway and
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Tartuffe on Broadway. And then I became sort of well
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: known for doing the obscure plays by Eugene O'Neill like
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: The Hairy Ape and Dynamo off Broadway. And was instrumental
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: in starting the off-Broadway equity contract. And then I left
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: New York in 1978, and I went out to California
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: to seek my fortune. And since then, I've guest-starred at
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: about probably 85 or 90 different episodic television shows. And
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: I've been a regular on about five or six of them.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: a recurring character on about eight or nine of them
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: and and i've done about 100 movies so.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It's quite a resume yeah well.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: You know when you've been doing it for almost 50
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: years that it all adds up so.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Did you set out again you did so much stage
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: work early on did you like growing up as a
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: kid were you more interested in film and tv or what.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: No i was a theater actor yeah i was a
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: stage actor that was uh i was the uh In
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: my mind, anyway, I was the new Marlon Brando, you know?
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: I walked around Manhattan in a t-shirt and jeans, and
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: that was back in 1970. That can get you in trouble.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: We were just talking. We actually just did a whole
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: episode on the waterfront. Yeah. Yeah, we went through a
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: lot of his, like, at what point is method a
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: little too method, and you annoy all your co-stars.
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, no, I would never do that, no.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: But I love.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: great majority of his work.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: On screen and from what I hear on stage was amazing.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: Now as a human being he leaves a lot to
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: be desired I suppose.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: I think it got worse as time went on.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: His work is superlative. So he was kind of like
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: one of my idols. But there are others too. I
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: love Joseph Cotton and I love Gene Hackman and I
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: love really good solid subtle actors you know and I
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: try to I try to emulate them as much as
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: I can.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Well, I mean, I was looking at some
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: of the bigger ones and thinking back, and I'm like,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: you were kind of the first big comic book superhero.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: All right, I mean, Superman beat you a little bit,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: but other than that, like, the really.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: With Swamp Thing.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: With Swamp Thing, yeah. It's like, there really weren't a
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: ton of.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: That was a DC comic superhero, yeah, and I did
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: that movie for Wes Craven. uh we shot it uh
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: i think in 1980 and it came out in 81
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: and uh with adrian barbeau and louis jordan yeah the
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: pleasure to work with louis you know he was that
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: uh he was that big uh gg movie star you
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: know and um.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Well that was pretty early on for wes was he
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: how was he as a.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: Director yeah he'd only done um he had done Last
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: House on the Left.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: The First Hills Have Eyes, I think.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, The First Hills Have Eyes. And that was it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: Swamp Thing was his third film. And I loved Wes.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: We got along famously and we had a great time
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: making Swamp Thing. We were in the swamps of Charleston,
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: South Carolina. It was 95 degrees temp and 90% humidity
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: and we had alligators and water moccasins and black flies
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: and all of our All of our Wranglers carried pistols.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Just like most movie shoots, sure.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: And I wore the Swamp Thing appliance, the actual monster
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: appliance from the waist up. And they could glue down
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: my face completely with the eye lenses and the teeth
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: and everything. And I could make this face look almost real,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: you know, like a human being. And They didn't use
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: any of the close-up scenes that I shot for that movie.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: And I shot them all.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: And how many hours was it to get into that?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: About three and a half. Because it didn't match with
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: the six-foot-five stuntman, Dick Durock. And so somewhere that film is...
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: And I asked Wes about that. You know where those
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: outtakes are? And he said, no, I don't know where
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: they were.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: When the Criterion edition of Swamp Thing comes out. They're
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: better beyond there.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So anyway, yeah, I did that one, and then
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 5: I went on from there.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Well, that's, I guess, the big, working with Disney, again,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: early on, before they ran the industry, but Journey of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Natty Gann was like, I think a lot of kids
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: kind of latched onto that early on. That was.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a movie that a lot of kids,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: you know, identified with, and I'm finding that out, you know,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: coming to these shows like this one, and they come
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: up and say, you know, 40 years ago, I... Yeah.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: Natty Gann was my film. And Meredith had just married
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: Patton Oswalt, a good friend of mine. It's funny.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I saw her at, I think, this a couple of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: years ago. And then the next thing I saw, she
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: was married. I'm like, when did that happen?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: I did. And I just had a birthday party last August.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: And Patton came with Meredith. And it was sweet to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: see them again.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: It is an interesting story, them finding each other. Mostly
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: through the internet, it sounded like.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Well, and then the big one, and I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: know Jay loves RoboCop, so we're always talking about that.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're still coming up to me for RoboCop.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I mean, that was also really early for Verhoeven.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: Did you, I mean, in this country, that was kind
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: of his breakthrough. So did you know him by reputation
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: coming into that movie?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd seen Soldier of Orange and, you know, a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: little bit of his work. A lot of his stuff
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: with Rutger Hauer, you know. Flesh and Bone and a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: lot of that. Yeah, but he was a wild, crazy Dutchman,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: you know. And we had the greatest time making RoboCop.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: We were like kids in a sandbox.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: With explosives.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: We were blowing up streets in Dallas, you know. It
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: was supposed to be old Detroit, but it was Dallas.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: And then we went down to the outside of Pittsburgh
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: in Manessen, Pennsylvania to that old steel mill. And we
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: shot a lot of the movie. And we were just
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: like kids in a candy shop, you know, just having
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: a great time. That's been one of my most fun
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: experiences making RoboCop ever.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: And the hair was pretty epic.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: That was definitely mid-' 80s hair. That was awesome.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: We all had hair then, didn't we? Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Even Kurt.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: It was hard for him, but he still had some.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, we just had one of the guys that
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: did some of the effects stuff, and he built the
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: miniature version of the new Detroit. and he was originally
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: from detroit so he was like basing off of like
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: a bastardized version of his actual hometown.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah that documentary that the new one's coming out
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: or has it been out yet i haven't seen it
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: i know i did a thing for it so i
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: think i think it'll be out soon if it's not
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: out already.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's it's a pretty amazing to this day holds
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: up in ways that is yeah i don't think people
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: were prepared for that movie when it came out yep
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: you're right yeah and So then I guess, you know,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: we have to talk about David Lynch. Again, how much
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: did you know about him by reputation coming into Trim Peaks? Oh, well,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I, you know, I mean, he was already
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: kind of established in the industry.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw Eraserhead.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: And I, and I saw, you know, Blue Velvet and, and, and,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: and of course the, the one with John Hurt that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: Mel Brooks produced. What, what was that one called? Oh, oh, um,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: With Anthony Hopkins, all about... Oh, Elephant Man? Elephant Man, yes,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: that one, yeah.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah. I saw all of his films before
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: I worked with him, yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: But, I mean, you couldn't have known exactly what you
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: were getting yourself into, especially for the role that you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: ended up in.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't envision playing Leland Palmer at all. I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: thought I was going to be the sheriff. Yeah. And
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: when I auditioned with David, we just talked for about
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: 20 minutes. That was the audition. And we talked about
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: our first car, some actor friends we had in common, and.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: And that was it. That was the extent of it.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: We got along famously. Found out a couple of days
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: later that he wanted me to play Leland Palmer. And
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: I had to look in the script and see who
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: he was again.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: He's this guy. His daughter died. And he hears about
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: it on the phone and he cries. He goes to
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: the morgue to identify her body. He cries. He's in
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: a room while the police are searching it. He cries.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: I said, well, all this guy does is cry. But
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: then I thought, ah, therein lies the challenge, you know,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: making all these different variations of crying and mourning and
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: odd behavior that Leland exhibited. And so, you know, we
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: started out with Leland and the writers dug the character
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: and they started writing more outrageous stuff for him, you know.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Well, again, it is, you know, a points to you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: because it's like again on paper that could come off
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: and a lesser actor would just do the most basic
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: but i think that your version of leland is so
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: layered and so like weird in the best possible way
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: that like adds so much to what lynch is already
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: doing oh thank.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: You yeah yeah i tried to make him a real
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: human being yeah and.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah and especially as the story goes on and gets
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: darker and darker did do you feel like lynch knew
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: for sure that end that was coming.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: No no no In fact, I know for a fact
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: he did not want that end to come. He wanted
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: to continue on. It was the ABC television network that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: wanted that end to come. They wanted to find a killer.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: They wanted it to be resolved in some way. And
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: so they're the ones that put the kibosh on that.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: If it was up to David, he would have kept
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: it going on forever. And I would still be in town.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Seems like a bad... choice really i mean to me
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: that's what kept the series going like it does hit
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: a weird turn after we know the big question.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: You know and then it went off another tangents.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And uh Nobody wants to follow James around. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: We want more Leland.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Well, and then, especially that weird dynamic of then, at
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: that point, you're like the ultimate father. We just passed
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Father's Day and there was a meme going around that
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: was the crazy Leland and it just said, Happy Father's Day.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and at the time I was filming it, I
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: had a two or three year old daughter. She was,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: I think, three at the time.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: And, you know, the whole idea of Leland being the
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: killer of his own daughter.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's very distasteful and people were just like that's
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: dark and i'm like i.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: Know i know it was another i didn't want to
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: do it i didn't want to do it yeah and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: i actually seriously thought momentarily that i can't do it
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: you know i'm not gonna do it yeah but then
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: uh when we met with david and he you know
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: he explained how i was gonna go out and uh
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: It was going to be a beautiful thing, as he
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: always says. It is.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: That scene of you in the interrogation room is phenomenal.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: To this day, it's just one of the best scenes ever.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. That's an amazing scene. I enjoy watching that myself.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: And also the following ones, when I'm actually dying and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: with the water coming down and in Cooper's arms and
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: all of that.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: it was redemption for me as an actor to experience
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: that scene. And so I felt, I felt good about
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: going out, you know?
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: And at that point you wouldn't think it could get
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: any darker, especially for your character, but then we get
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: to fire walk with me.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: Somehow it gets darker and more twisted.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: And then you understand. Yeah. You understand what he did.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Fire Walk With Me was... And that gal over there... Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Cheryl.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Who was my daughter. She put herself through the gamut
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: of emotions in that film. She deserves every kind of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: award for that performance.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: She's amazing.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a wonderful thing.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: We had to jump ahead because Misty's a huge Reaper fan.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: She was telling you at the table she just finished
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: watching the second season again.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 5: I love Reaper. I could have played the devil forever
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: and never play anything else.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: I loved that show. I loved the cast. I loved
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: that character. And it was a great show. You know,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: there was no reason for it to be canceled. It
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: was only because the powers that be at the CW
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: network at that time didn't think that we had enough
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: gossip girls in our show. Yeah.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: The CW hadn't hit its stride. It's funny now, I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: feel like if Reaper was on, they'd found such a
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: fan base.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, with the vampire thing.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: All of the superhero series, the vampires.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 5: Which fit right in now.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now I think it would be fine.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: And they tried to shop the show, I guess, to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: the ABC family network. But even now, people are talking
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: about having a Reaper revival, doing a movie.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean... You could do that or end up
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: on Netflix now.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: It's a ton of options. What? Misty wants to know
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: how it ends is what she says. It doesn't end.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: That's the thing. Boy, you should have seen the shows
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: they had in mind for the third season. We were
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: going to go down into hell.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 7: Nice.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Misty's losing her mind right now.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's never going to happen now unless something happens.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: you know strange.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Unless your money comes in people start the kickstarter let's
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: get this going.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Kickstarter campaign for reaper please well.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Then i was gonna throw out again i like i
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: like because i'll pick you know a lot of the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: bigger stuff but i like sometimes asking people what's like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: a film that you've made over the years that you
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: think didn't get enough exposure that you think is really
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: great but not everybody talks about oh a.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: Movie i made called dead end which is there you
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: go it's one it's one.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: Of my favorites you know.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: I made with lynn shea yeah alexandra holden And, yeah,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: it's one of my hidden treasures, I guess you could
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 5: call them. Yeah. I love Dead End.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's our recommend for the episode.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 5: And one of the great movies that I always liked
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: was Good Night and Good Luck that was directed by
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: George Clooney.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: And, you know, I had the opportunity to work with
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: a whole slew of, you know, fine actors like Robert
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: Downey Jr. and Jeff Daniels and David Strathern and Patricia Clarkson.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: Just an amazing cast.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of those examples of how solid
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: and dramatic you can play stuff. Yeah. But I was
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: going to say, it is also really interesting when you
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: look through how you're so unafraid to do very silly.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: You're doing Tim and Eric, and you're doing Funny or Die.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, I love silly.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you can dial it up.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: I can make a fool of myself with the best
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: of them.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: I love self-deprecation. I always have. And I never thought
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: of myself as any kind of a big deal. So
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: anytime I can make fun of myself, I take that chance.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: But being able to play that deadpan, almost the flip
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: side of the series, where you're doing like Chilleraba or
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: you're doing like.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, and did you see my music video with Beach
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: House that Eric directed?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, you got to look that up.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: I've seen the infomercials.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: You can go online.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Office hugging.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: It's Beach House, the group Beach House. It's called Wishes.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a pretty far out music video. Yeah, well,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: you'll see. I sing. I sing in it.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: I'd hope. I mean, most days I'm just humming Marysa Yoaks.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: That's most of my days.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 5: Oh, you've got to see it.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: You can go online and see it. It's called Beach
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: House Wishes, and you'll see it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: Eric Warheim directed it.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: And then I guess you've still got tons of new
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: stuff in the works. So do you have stuff coming
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: out that you want to tell people about?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: Well, I have my show on ABC called Fresh Off
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: the Boat. And we're coming back for a fifth season.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: And those new episodes will start airing in September. And
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: I made a couple of movies. One called For Entertainment
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 5: Purposes Only. Another one called Tone Deaf, a new Ricky
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: Bates film. The guy who did Trash Fire and Suburban
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: Gothic and Excision. And yeah, I try to keep busy.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Definitely. And again, pop up in places I was not
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: expecting fresh off the boat. I'd been watching it and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: then like one episode, there you are.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: I'm playing an Orlando dentist. Do you believe that?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Everyone's, there's another outfits in that one. That mid 90s.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: They're all like, you're on the golf course.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nice.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, well, thank you for talking with us, man.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Definitely check out your stuff.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, you're welcome.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: And we'll get the Kickstarter going for more Reapers.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: All right, good.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Good deal.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: Thank you, man.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: I'm serious, dude.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: He still didn't kiss me, but I'm.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 5: A little upset by that.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, how old is he? Did we ever figure
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: that out? Like 70? That involves a Google search. He
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: looks remarkable for his age.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Again, if I didn't know the math of looking up
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: some of the stuff he's done, I'm just like, yeah,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: he's been doing stuff a long time. As he references,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: quite a while. So I don't know. It's a lot
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: of years.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's not 70. Maybe I just made that up.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: 70. Man looks damn good. I would not have expected. Again,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: had I not done the math on the going back
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: and looking at all the stuff he's worked on over
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: the years, then I'm like, well, yeah, I guess. Like it.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: mathematically makes sense, but yeah, if you just look at
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: him and talk to him, you would not guess that,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: because he looks considerably younger, which is probably good for
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: his career. That's why he's still getting all these awesome roles, because,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't get too old in Hollywood, or
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: they don't want to butcher and stuff.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: I wonder if he, like, tans, or does he, like,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: naturally have that, like.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Just naturally George Hamilton-y.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: No, his looks good.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: It's not orange like Jordan Jameson.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Not burnt like Jordan Jameson. I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: can't even say his name. I keep wanting to say Weiss,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: like Janet Weiss. Weiss. Ray Weiss is just, it looks natural.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: It looks like a healthy tan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's a healthy man.
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  Speaker 4: He's not like Oompa Loompa or anything.
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  Speaker 2: It's good.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go down that road, guys.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, seriously, he's a good looking dude. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not even going to lie.
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  Speaker 1: And a fine actor. as you've heard all the awesome
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: things that most of which i hope you've seen if
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: not you know there's some new ones in fact he
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: recommends one there so you should go.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: I have since before recommended and we talked about it is.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Why i put it on the list of like things
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: i'm like i only had a handful i knew we
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't be there like all day with them so i'm
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: just like okay let's you know just pick the the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: bullet points we gotta hit and then like i threw
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of wild cards and i was like
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: i'm like that one. Let's see what he thinks about that.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: And I didn't even have to. I just threw it
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: out there and that was his suggestion of a movie
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: that you need to watch. Have you seen it or not?
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: It did involve me doing a crazy spastic dance.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: That was true. You were doing some sort of Snoopy
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: dance over there when you looked over and he was
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: just like, poor crazy girl.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: I get that a lot. But I did get a
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: hug afterwards.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: That's true. We're all jealous.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: He did seem slightly delighted with my ridiculousness.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: You were very happy to see.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: I can't hide my excitement. When I'm happy for something,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: it's out for everybody to see.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: Much like when I'm pissed.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: When you're angry, you cannot hide it. And to counterbalance,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: when you're happy, there's happy dances.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: There is. Giggles and... It's ridiculous. It's shameful.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: So a big thank you to Ray. He was super
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: awesome to hang out and talk with us there. And
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: he told us some really cool stuff. And now you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: have a movie you have to go watch. So get
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: on it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a really good movie.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: I liked it.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: Several recommendations is what you're hearing today.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: You don't argue with Ray Wash.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Damn straight.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: You just don't.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: He's the devil. And or Leland Palmer. I might be
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: more frightened of Leland.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: Possessed Leland, I might be a little more frightened of.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Dude. Because the devil's just kind of a cool laid
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: back dude.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: But Leland, even when he's like regular dad, he's crazy.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Let alone when he goes to full on. I won't
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: spoil anything. I know Twin Peaks is like a new
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: thing for some people. They're either rediscovering it with the
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: new season, but yeah, yeah. Leland is, he's a lot
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: to handle and disturbing.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched the new season. Is he in the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: new season?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: There's some appearances they've, they've done again. David Lynch knows
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's got to wrap around and throw
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: in a lot of cameos with people from the old one.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: So he is in there a little bit.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: Delightful.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: That he was. So once again, thank you to Ray
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: for hanging out with us. Go support him in his
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: upcoming movies. And if you see him out there, tell
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: him he's awesome.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: And you heard him on Movie Meltdown.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Support him in everything he does. Everything.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: If he has like an offshoot business.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Makes like barbecue sauce or something with his head on there.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be awesome?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: Just as long as he's not barbecuing babies.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, whatever. Whatever he needs to do. Just,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you know, support him in his, you know, cannibal barbecue sauce.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: If he had a line of barbecue sauce, not necessarily cannibal.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: He's probably stealing that from Bill Moseley.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: I would eat that shit. Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, especially if there's a nice little headshot of
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: him on there. I, I trust that face to make
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: my barbecue sauce.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, I, when, when Dwight Yoakam made chicken fingers,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: I totally, or it was a chicken fries, chicken fries.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: I believe I did try them out of weird curiosity
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: of like, why is Dwight making food?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Uh, George Jones had an entire line. He had, he
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: had like sausages and barbecue sauces. I'm pretty sure. I did.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: I did enjoy most of those things. Um, I love
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: it when celebrities make rude food. They don't do it
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: near often enough.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Not often enough. So guys, all you celebrities out there,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: get on it. Get in the kitchen. Start making something.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Now I just want his barbecues. I'm picturing the little
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: version of his head on there.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: Smiling.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe giving you a thumbs up.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: If it's really hot, he could have a little devil horn.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Devil horns for the spicy bottle. A little angel halo
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: for the nice mild, you know.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. This is the greatest idea.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: We need to get his people on this. We'd like
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: a cut, please. All right. Well, even without Ray, it
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: was a pretty awesome day. But with Ray, it was
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: a fabulous day. He was amazing. And none of it
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: would be made possible without Days of the Dead. So
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: you yourself should go to daysofthedead.com and see what they've
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: got in the works, which is several more shows. They've
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: shifted their schedule. They're actually like, I feel like they're
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: kind of spacing them out now, which might be better
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: for like as someone who's overwhelmed by conventions. Like it
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: might be good to kind of space them out and
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: like do this one and this one. And so they've
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: spread them out throughout the year. And even now they've
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: already got stuff mapped out into next year. So, yep, daysofthedead.com
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: and you can figure out where they're going to be
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the future. They'll be back in Louisville and
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be there right in the middle of that
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: Because, yes, they have rescheduled their Louisville convention.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so go to the website. Check out when they are,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: what cities they're going to be in, and then you'll know,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and you can start planning your life around them.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: I think for at least the last year, if not
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: the last two years, they had it on, was it
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Labor Day weekend?
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: Which always fucked up my shit, because that's also the
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: flea market weekend.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so sorry. So you don't mess with that one.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: So it's a good thing they've rescheduled. They might have
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: rescheduled just for you.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: No, because they actually, unlike some conventions, they had complaints
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: from vendors and guests and, like, regular convention goers about,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a holiday weekend, you know, some people
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: actually go do stuff that doesn't necessarily involve conventions.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 5: People and their family or whatever.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: It's like guests, too. They're like, we could make it
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: if it wasn't on Labor Day weekend. So, you know,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: the guests, the vendors, you know, vendors got stuff to do.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: They don't necessarily want to spend the holiday weekend at
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: a convention. But unlike some conventions, they actually listen and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: they've taken this into account and they are moving it.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Because I think the thing they listed on their site was,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: so they don't have a good convention, or that's a
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: passable convention. They want to have a great convention. And
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: to do that, they're willing to, okay, we'll listen to feedback,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: and we'll do what we can to actually make this
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: better for everybody.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: And it worked, because today was pretty great. Not only
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: did we hang out with Ray, we bought some cool toys.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: I bought cool toys. Did you buy toys? Oh, you
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: bought toys, too.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I got several toys. They might be little... Little horror
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: characters that wind up and walk around.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I bought a Funko Pop figure of Leland Palmer.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: What a surprise.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: I told you you should take it over and hold
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: it up next to.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Him and be like, hmm, no, kind of, a little bit.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I already had, for some reason I already had,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: I think Boyfriend bought them for me.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: He bought me.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: Bob and Laura wrapped in plastic.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Wrapped in plastic. Exactly. But not Leland. So you remedied
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: that today. I did. With our many purchases of things.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes. Now I need to get on the road.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Head on back. Plan our next outing to another show.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: Do we have any of those planned?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: There's more coming. There's always more coming. Don't you guys worry.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: There'll be another episode coming at you.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: But none of them will be as epic as Ray Wise.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: He's very cool. Very nice to hang out with us.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Anyways, we love you, Ray Wise.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Ray Wise is awesome. And that's how we round
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: things out.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: Works for me. You guys should, like, ended out with
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: the mark with the song see i kept earlier today
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: i kept trying not that version that i just did
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: because that was awful.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Well earlier today i kept i don't know what made
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: me cross the two over but i kept like as
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: i was coming to pick you up to go on
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the road trip i kept trying to find a way
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: to re-envision that song as done by Jim Morrison. I
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: got pretty close, I gotta say. It was pretty damn
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: good in my mind of like, if, you know, if
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: the Doors were gonna cover Maisie Dotes, this is how
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: it would go.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was disturbing. That's why nobody.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: It would just be incoherent rambling for a while.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, later there'd be a breakdown in the middle, but
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: for the most part... There'd be.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: Something about lizards or something.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: He's the lizard king. You know how that happens. So
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: fucking weird. So once again, thank you to Days of
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the Dead. Go to daysofthedead.com and plan your trip and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: you can have a wonderful day like we did. And
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: now we're going to round it out and head on home. So,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: otherwise that about does it. We will return next time,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Bye.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: And dogs eat oats.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: And little, little, little, little.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Lambs eat ivy.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: Kid will eat ivy too, now wouldn't you?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Do you know what.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: I mean now?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 8: Manzitos and wafflesitos, little, little, little, little lambs eat ivy.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: Kid will eat ivy too, now wouldn't you? Do you
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: know what I mean now? Now wouldn't you? Now wouldn't you?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: Now if the words sound clear and I put it
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 8: to your ear A little bit of jumble and jivey
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: Sing mezzitos and dozitos And little, little, little, little lambs
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 8: eat ivy now Mezzitos and dozitos Little, little, little, little
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: lambs eat ivy I could eat ivy too Now wouldn't you?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Now wouldn't you?
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 8: Words sound queer and funny to your ear. A little
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: bit of jungle and jivey. Sing mezzitos and dozitos. And little, little, little, little, little, little.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 8: Mezzitos and dozitos. Little, little, little, little, little, little. Mezzitos
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: and dozitos.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: Yes, we have to explain to our fans out there
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: that we're at this autograph signing thing, and we're next
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 5: to my table. So we're trying to accommodate everyone, and
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 5: everybody's been really sweet here in Indianapolis. And this guy
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: that I'm talking to has been really nice. You're okay.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: I'm going to give him my attention.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:26:11
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• 1:26:15
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• 1:26:17
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• 1:26:20
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