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- Britney: Well, we are so excited to kick off episode one with you guys. And in this episode, we are going to be talking about why is my kid always sick or kids if you have more than one. This is a common question I know at Motherhood Alliance we are getting from families. And so we're excited to have you guys as experts come on. But first for any of our listeners, you guys know that we love to get to know our new guests for a new series first. And so we always ask the fun facts. Hey everyone, this is Britt from motherhoodalliance.com and I'm excited to bring you a special four episode series with husband and wife team, doctors, Julie and Skip Weiss from prime family chiropractic centers. Both are doctors of chiropractic who specialize in pregnancy, pediatric, and family care. Interestingly, when they were in chiropractic school, they originally planned to do work with athletes, especially being so close to Green Bay, but life took them in a different direction. And we'll talk a little bit more about that in episode one. Julie, you shared that you love cheetah print, so I'm not gonna lie, those of you who are watching on YouTube, I found my only cheetah print shirt that I own and I had to wear it for Dr. Julie today. So tell us a little bit about your love for cheetah print. They got married during grad school, found out they were expecting shortly after, and were mentored by a coach who ran one of the largest pediatric chiropractic offices in Canada, which I understand helped shape the focus of your practice today. Today, they're passionate about helping families take a more proactive approach to health by giving parents a supportive, judgment-free space to ask questions and make informed decisions for their kids. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Yeah, well you are rocking the same print that's on my jeans. I think sometimes people say that if there's only a season that you can wear things, but every day is always a day for cheetah print. Britney: Hahaha I love that. Is that something you've always loved, like, since childhood or has this been more of a recent interest? I've worse! Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: I, it's definitely gotten worse. But I'm not biased. will wear, I will wear every animal print, but I am fond of, of really good cheetah print. Cause you have your own spots. Britney: They're also raising two kids of their own, along with two French bulldog puppies. So they definitely understand the real life chaos and joy of family life. Julie and Skip, we're so glad you're here. ⁓ that's Yeah. And Dr. Skip, I know you've shared that you've been in podcasting for a long time. About how many episodes do you think that you've done and when did you start? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. let's see, we just recorded 362 last week. I've been in podcasting for almost seven years, chiropractically. we did our first, the first three and a half years was all me and one of my colleagues talking just straight chiropractic to chiropractors about pediatric care and infant care and kids care. And then, I brought Dr. Julian two and a half years ago to make our podcast, the prime family podcast. forward-facing for our office instead of it being chiropractically facing for the profession. I found that a lot of our patients were listening. So I decided to basically just take a 90 degree turn and go straight with and make it very family focused on how we can help families in general instead of just constantly helping chiropractors. Britney: Awesome. for those listening, how would they find your podcast? What is it called? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: ⁓ it's called the Prime. It's called Prime Family Podcast. It's on YouTube. It's on Spotify, iTunes, anywhere, any platform you want to receive it audially, you can hear it on anything. And then visually, it's going to be on YouTube. We have our own studio in the back of our office. ⁓ That's Life Media Studios that we've put together to help people just do tons of stuff for their families. But that's where they can find it. Britney: I'm thankful that you're doing that. I'm thankful that we're here now doing video. This is fairly new for us and that you guys get to be guests with us. One other thing I love to always hit on before we jump into the topic of the day is just learning a little bit about how you got into profession. And then you guys are a married couple. So like how has owning a business been? So why don't you tell us a little bit about your journey separately and how you got interested in chiropractic, but also together. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Let me go first. I opened up a career book in sixth grade and it was a correctionals officer or a chiropractor. So in sixth grade I didn't really know, I had no clue, but I went and I shadowed and I became interested in it I thought this is something that I can do, but it wasn't until I was really a freshman, freshman, sophomore in college. that I definitely knew that I was down the right path when chiropractic actually saved my life. Britney: Okay, tell us more about that. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: I had been going through different health concerns and in and out of the emergency room and they would just kind of write me off. Turns off it was probably six to nine months of kidney stones that I was going through. And finally they just really had no way to help me. And so I said, I'm going to go to my chiropractor and see what he can do. And they said, well, if you do that, you're just going to die. And I was like, ooh, I like that. So that was, it was just kind of a totally different mindset that I feel some people get put into a box of this is the only way and this is the only thing that you can do. And I knew that there is other resources, there's other ways to do so many different things. And that just kind of solidified that, yep, I wanna be a contrarian. I want to allow people a different thought process and a different journey for health for themselves. Britney: I love that. How about you, Dr. Skip? How did you become interested in the industry? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: ⁓ I've been adjusting since I was since I was two years old. I was it wasn't necessarily a sick kid, but I was always a kid that was always hurt. And then my mom worked for a chiropractor when I was really, really young. So we started getting seen by him. And then I tore my knee up in high school. I wanted be there a biologist or a cook or something. I totally opposite careers. But then I my knee up in high school ⁓ and. Instead, I went to the ER quickly via ambulance. My knee was horribly hurt. And then when we finished up at the ER, they put me in an immobilizer for my knee and didn't do anything. They just said, we're going to have you see your general practitioner in two weeks. I knew at that time, like my general practitioner was my chiropractor. So they were going to send me off to the MD. I told my dad, we didn't even leave town. We went right over to the chiropractic office, saw my mentors. And then from that point, ⁓ He said, I'm gonna see you tomorrow. We gotta get this knee figured out. It was too swollen to really get any idea on it. And then within three days, he had me in to see a surgeon. I kind of knew, was like, wow, this chiropractors have a lot of, I don't wanna say power, but they have a lot of, I didn't at that time chiropractors were able to even talk to medical doctors and help with all that. And then I was, they approached me about chiropractic. My mentors did. At that time, they said, Skip, like, what do you wanna do? ⁓ I said, I have no idea that I was 17 going on 18 and they took me to Palmer College chiropractic for their first for a homecoming. ⁓ stepped on that campus and realized immediately that I was supposed to be a chiropractor. So then I just my my trajectory and course, I was that kid when he graduated high school, I knew exactly what I wanted to be. So I just set forth and went right into undergrad and then I met Julie in undergrad. transferred and went I transferred over to UWGB, which is where she attended. And then we met each other outside of microbiology lab, which is really funny. That's like, like, people think we met in grad school, which we did not we met in undergrad. It was outside. Like I said, outside microbiology, we had just got done, I think, sneezing and trying to do some pizza plates with staff. And talking. Britney: you ⁓ Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: ⁓ I just got back from Europe, just being over there for like a week and a half visiting some friends started talking about what you wanted to do as your career. told me chiropractic and then we ended up talking for like three hours, right? ⁓ And then you got up to go to your class. I got up to walk back to like, if you're familiar with GB, I was walking back down towards Mac Hall from ⁓ sciences and felt this hand on my shoulder. thought it was, ⁓ it Julie. It was actually, it was the hand of like It was the hand of my grandpa who had passed away. And I immediately got this feeling that I was supposed to marry her. And it was weird. was I was like, ⁓ that's that's interesting. ⁓ literally, like six months later, we started hanging out more eight months after that. Like, I don't know what time ⁓ I to look at all the emails we passed back and forth. Britney: Now you guys have two kids, is that right? Are they boys girls? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: ⁓ Mm-hmm. Yeah, two kids. In school, the philosophy is you either get married, you get divorced, or you get pregnant. We didn't get divorced, but did the other two. And like that's really what changed the trajectory of I think our minds that our thought process of, well, heck, we need to really figure this thing out if we're gonna have kids. And it was five days after I had our daughter, ⁓ while we were still, I was still finishing up graduate school, we to Green Bay and we opened up our ⁓ office. five days later and it's- Five days we moved to Green Bay. And then was in May and then August we opened our ⁓ August of 2008 we opened our office. Britney: Cool. Wow. Thanks for sharing your story. I always love hearing that, especially, I think you're our first couple that we've had on. And so it's like hearing how you met and just kind of the love story behind it. I love all of that. Well, and speaking of sneezing into Petri dishes today, we're talking about sickness in kids, because this is something that so many parents are struggling with. in the winter months, it feels like it's never ending. In the summer months, it feels like it's not as bad. So I guess, That's a great first question to start with, is what makes us so sick and is there really a difference in the seasons? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: I think winter feels tougher, definitely because we're more homebound. However, our immune systems traditionally just because we live in the Midwest do decrease because we're not getting our vitamin D. Again, we are inside around more people. When we're outside, nature is kind of a... Our homes are petri dishes, right? When we're outside, that's like... nature is really cleansing for us. we're walking barefoot, if we're just breathing the fresh air, we're out in the sun, and those things all boost our immune system. When we are sitting at home and maybe not as active, and maybe our food choices aren't as food market friendly, and having no sun, that's definitely what decreases our immune response. Britney: What would you say is kind of normal amount of sickness? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Zero. ⁓ So what I mean by that is, well, the first question you have to ask is like define sickness. like what, because to everybody being sick is different. You know, if you talk to, if you talk to a lot of men, either like if a guy gets a cold, the whole world's gonna to an end. That's usually how it works, right? Because we're rarely sick. Most will commonly go get sick once or twice a year. I ⁓ don't getting sick ⁓ as Britney: zero. Ha ha ha. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: as a normalcy as much as it is seeing what your immune system can do. It's really a measure of how resilient you are how well you can adapt to your environment. That's the key. I would say in children getting sick once a year, that's a, ⁓ I you could say that's a normal immune response to what's going on in their environment. If they are chronically sick where we're getting sick two, three, even four times a year, that to me tells me they have a suppressed immune system and then we have to start looking at, okay, what runs and controls the immune system and why is it being suppressed? Because why can I go out, be in the exact same stores as you are, pass almost the exact same people, come in contact with the same viruses, you amount a massive immune response and my body amounts a small immune response. So we both are trying, both of our bodies are trying to adapt or compensate. But when that happens, it's how do we respond to it? With children when they're chronically sick, which what I define that as is more than two times a year, that tells me right there that their immune system isn't working appropriately. And in an adult, it happens the same way. We've all met adults that are sick too. Like they're sick all the time. Like we have it here in our practice. It seems like, and we'll have families come in, they'll say, well, man, this is like our family cannot shake being sick. Like we've been sick for months. Well, let's start looking at what your care is like, what your body's doing, how is your immune system responding to your nervous system, which is actually what controls it, and then what needs to be done to get it back online. Britney: Yeah, there's so much to break down in what you just said, because when I was a kid, I feel like being sick once or twice a year, like getting a cold. And specifically, a stomach bug might be a little bit different where maybe you ate something that didn't agree with your body. Sometimes it's different, sometimes it's not. But even just general colds, they're so much more prevalent. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Mm-hmm. Britney: now today. And so what do you feel like has changed? What's the primary things that have changed from when we were kids to today's age? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Well, how many kids do you see outside playing? Right? So outside time, nature is really important. having the different exposures, right, is really important. But our bodies are really stressed. Like we see it, like strollers going down or a stroller at a mall and that child is holding a tablet, a cell phone, right? The things that are affecting our immune system is what's in our environment. So the foods that we eat, the people that we surround ourselves with, of it is the technology. when we are constantly bombarded by all these different stressors, that is what depletes our immune system. And that is what opens us up to the possibility of getting sick. And when people are constantly sick, and ⁓ you said, Brittany, once a year, that good, right? Because getting sick shouldn't be something that we're scared of. It's something of, okay, if it's happening frequently, then that is the concern. When we get sick, that allows our body to build an immune response, which is good. That's gonna bolster our immune system. So for the next time when somebody wipes their boogers on us or sneezes in our face, we're not gonna be down with the plank for two weeks, right? We're bolstering our immune system that comes back to our nervous system because that's how that is controlled. but so many kids live in such a stressed environment and the technologies and the foods that we're eating and the sugar and literally everything and the lack of sleep, all of those are huge factors in why everybody is so sick. Britney: So there's a question right there when it comes to food that we're eating. it seems pretty obvious. If somebody is eating more of a processed standard American diet nowadays, that's the nutrients that their body has to work with to fight illnesses. But for somebody who's maybe more health conscious, which I would say is most of our audience listening, maybe they live by like that 80-20 rule of we're going to have really good food 80 % of the time, but also live a little bit in the 20 % of the time. much just sugar itself and how much food and sugar kids are getting? much does that really play into the immune system? Because I even think about this for my kids. I'm kind of in the 80-20 ballpark. We are really healthy at home, but my kids go to a private school and so they are allowed to bring in cupcakes for birthdays. And so when there's 24 kids in your class, you're getting that all the time. And then sometimes they get treats at church and just it's just this constant sugar battle. So Two questions, I guess, and I know this is kind of a lengthy question, but how much does sugar itself decrease our immune system or hurt our nervous system? And then secondly, if you are already sick and trying to overcome that sickness, does sugar slow down the process of being able to feel better faster? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Well, I'll start with that second part of that because sugar, so let's go back to the petri dishes. This is great that we talked about how we met because the auger in those plates, sugar in there, right? And that's what makes the bacteria, the viruses proliferate and grow. So whenever we're sick or we feel like we're getting sick, that is like the one time when like you don't eat the cupcake, you cut out all sugar because it's going to decrease how long you're sick or how severe. like the severity of your sickness because the virus, everything thrives on sugar. And the same thing like when you're making bread, how do you yeast? You add sugar into the starter, right? Even if you're doing sourdough. doesn't matter, like there has to be some form of sugar source for the virus or the yeast or bacteria to live. What's happening is when you have a lot of exposure to sugar, it's going to decrease your immune system between 40 and 50%, if not more. And the reason why is because sugar causes inflammation. So when we have inflammation, it puts your body in this massive stress cascade. And now instead of your body having its ability to basically fully ramp up your immune system, It is actually trying to fight an internal war of decreasing the inflammation in your body. And if you're super inflamed on the inside, which most of the time comes from lots of exposure to sugar, sugar isn't everything. It's just what forms are you taking it in? There's sugar in vegetables. There's sugar in fruit, obviously. Those are different forms of sugar. There's high fructose corn syrup and basically almost anything that you eat that's processed. ⁓ And then there's different forms of sugar that we're having in like our coffees and our teas and drinks. Even milk has sugar in it. So you have to figure out, am I going to live my life in a bubble and not consume any sugar ever? Well, that's impossible because carbohydrates are sugar as well. It's how your body processes these things and breaks them down. But it's understanding, am I going to take a large amount of sugar and dose it into my system, which is going to cause and ramp up inflammation? Or am I going to be taking it in in the forms of protein, vegetables, fruit, these things like that. When you consume things that are ready when they're full of sugar. like let's say cupcakes, cookies, processed foods, soft drinks, in your coffee, sugar based sweeteners. These ⁓ will cause massive doses ⁓ sugar into your system, which then causes a big change with your insulin, which is how your body grabs sugar out of your bloodstream and then processes it? Well, if your body sees these massive influxes, it's going to constantly try to grab sugar out of your system and process it, which then robs your immune system of normal functioning. So if you took your body as a 100 % based system, which is what we are, we're an amazing ecosystem that can fight anything, God's given us that ability to thrive, right? But if I'm at 100%, and let's say I have to take 70 % to fight inflammation, Now I just have 30 % left to work with, which has to make me walk, talk, think, run my immune system, survive. But if all I'm doing is now I have to fight inflammation all day, I'm basically robbing Peter to pay Paul. And that will destroy a kid and it destroyed an adult. So if we can start decreasing the amount of processed sugar coming into our body, that will make kids function really, really well. And the same thing with adults. Does that make sense? Britney: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. As you were talking, I was also kind of thinking about other arenas that kind of make it more difficult for our immune systems to function. And something that comes to mind that I think a lot of parents struggle with is this cycle of my kid gets sick, now they have fluid in their ears and they have an ear infection or something else, and then they take antibiotics to fight that piece, but then now that's leaving their gut system. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Yeah. Yes. Britney: off kilter which is going to affect everything. I guess two questions here. What are your thoughts on antibiotics? And then if somebody is currently sick and has to use them, like if they have something like strap where it's typically more recommended to use them, what can they do to kind of help rebuild up their gut microbiome and their immune system? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Well, number one, a full-size adult has seven and a pounds of gut bacteria, healthy gut bacteria, is basically if you're 100 pound adult, which some females are, let's say you're under five Britney: Okay. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Okay, 100 pounds is 7%. If you're 150 pounds, that's like 5.5%, right? Of your total body weight is your gut bacteria, and that's healthy. So what happens is when we take antibiotics, regardless of what you're told, it kills gut bacteria. Now I think that there's a common fallacy that people will say, it eliminates everything. No, it doesn't. But it really does start cutting the system down. So what happens then is that we don't take time to rebuild our gut bacteria. And what I mean by that is that we will take probiotics chronically, which doesn't allow our gut bacteria to actually get back up to normal 100%. It sits at like 85. what then happens is that we see this massive decrease in immune response. Are antibiotics needed? Yeah, absolutely. They ⁓ bacteria, but they don't kill viruses. And I think that is one of the biggest common misnomers is that we get prescribed antibiotics, which is antibacterial medication to fight a virus which will not be killed by antibiotics. What happens when a patient takes antibiotics and they have a viral infection, it starts decreasing their body's natural immunity, it starts decreasing the bacteria, the biotic, the bacteria in their stomach, but then over time, the virus gets killed by the body. And that's why you'll see somebody sort of get better when they're on antibiotics, but the antibiotic didn't kill the virus, the body did. It had zero effect on the virus whatsoever. How did the body kill it? Through normal pathogen release, through normal T cell release, through all these different things that function in the immune system. That's what killed the virus. It's not the antibiotic. They're overprescribed. that's, so if you go back to the ear infection question, lots of times the ear infection ⁓ you could look at the research there. It's, recommended that the wait time to allow an ear infection to process on its own and to heal is the same as if you would have used an antibiotic. So if you're on the fence of, ⁓ should I use the antibiotic or not? No, save it for an emergency, right? If, there is a strep throat, there's other things we can do for that as well, but use it like sparingly and cautiously because the last thing that we want is for our body to become immune to the antibiotic that is required to in an emergency to kill that bacteria. We want to save that for like in that emergent period. And I understand ear infections can feel like an emergency when a child is going through that. But it's kind of a watch and wait type of a process. Ear infections, those are, I like the analogy of a dirty bathtub. Right? If you ever plug the bathtub, there's hair, who knows what's in it, but the water is not, the water isn't draining. Okay. That's why it's the things. but the, the bathtub is backing up and it's not draining. It drains sometimes, right? If you kind of rub it or, know, maybe you shoo, shwoosh some extra water down and it'll slowly drain or it doesn't drain at all. That's what happens in an ear infection. So it's not draining properly. Right? So it's alignment. could be the ear wax, but Basically, the fluid is in there and it's built up and now it's infected and it's bothering the child. That's what we see so much in our office and that's why chiropractic is vital for that. It's not as easy as just pulling out the plug of the bathtub, but in our case, it really is. It's that adjustment to allow the pressure to come off of that ear canal so that it can properly drain, but then the full spine adjustment to make sure that we are now engaging the immune system so the immune system can now check in and make sure everything is being processed and handled just like it's supposed to. Britney: Yeah, okay. So let's stay on that for a minute. You guys are chiropractors and you specialize in pregnancy postpartum pediatric. And so you're seeing kids all the time. And so when someone calls in and says, Hey, my kiddo is sick. Can I come in? You're like, yes, bring them in, right? Not no, stay away because your kid has a sickness, right? So how can you, can you go a little bit deeper into how is the nervous system and the immune system tied? Like by getting an adjustment, by adjusting Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes. Britney: the spine and maybe some head, maybe some accessories as well. How does that actually impact our immune system? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: If I go into the science on it, it's than a five minute conversation. so number one, like Dr. Julie had said, it's a drainage issue and a nervous system issue. Okay. So the biggest thing ⁓ is that drain in, is helping naturally draining. We don't need to add another drain. So tubes add another drain. Okay. So they help treat the symptom of the pressure behind the ear, but they don't actually stop the ear infection. Britney: Hahaha Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: That's why when you have patients that have tubes, generally those kids will still get multiple ear infections, they just drain. So you'll just see the crud come out of their ear, right? What we have to figure out is why are the eustachian tubes not actually draining? Because we have a natural tube built into our ear, it's called the eustachian tube, and it runs everything down into our sinuses. But the neurology is actually what controls how those tubes drain, and it controls the gut, it controls a lot. So it can come back to actually cranial nerve 10. which a lot of people talk about if you are in the, if you have a child that has any sort of neural issue going on, whether it's ADD, ADHD, autism, all those things, you've heard of cranial nerve 10 probably at some point at nauseam. But cranial nerve 10 is actually the sensory nerve that actually starts, comes out of the base of the skull, goes down into the body and actually sends messages back to the brain constantly. So the brain can then tell the body how to adapt, respond and correct issues going on. It's your autonomic nervous system. It's what makes you calm. It's what makes you rest and digest. It doesn't make you fight or flight. But what happens is during the subluxation process, so when the spine gets out of position, the body will innately go into fight or flight, which then will trump rest and digest. If rest and digest doesn't work appropriately, which is now going to affect your immune system, now your immune system can't function normally. So when we have a subluxation of the spine and typically in the upper neck, that's going to affect how the skull sits. It's going to affect how the skull is actually shaped because of how the child holds their head at night and they're in your arms and all these things that moms and dads deal with. But when that happens now, now we'll get a change in the cranium shape as well. And then the tubes don't line up like they're supposed to to begin with and they can't move to actually cause them to drain. But then now we have hypersensation going on in our upper neck. So now our body is super stressed out because it can't communicate appropriately. So again, it comes back to what do I have to do to keep this body working versus thriving and getting rid of things. So now what happens is the immune system starts to decrease its function. Because again, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Now there are there is a there is a direct physiological association that we can go into. Neurocytes and dendrocytes and all these different things that get released from T cells and actually macrophages did it go in and actually kill these viruses. But if we don't have the right communication from the body back to the brain to then tell the brain to say, Hey, I need to I need to activate T cells, I need to activate macrophages, I need to activate killer cells, all these things that go into destroy viruses. But if I can't get the communication back to the brain to then say, send all this stuff out, Now I'm limited. So if we adjust, when we get a chance to adjust children and clear up that interference, that decreases the stress, which then allows the body to get full communication back and then start communicating like it should. Typically what we see that is like when we're taking care of kids and if they have ear infections, they will get like five out of every 10 when they start care in our office, they'll get an ear infection within 10 days of being seen in our office. The reason why is because the body's going through this massive checks and balances. once it gets normal communication back, where it's like, okay, I've got to check off all these boxes to make sure everything's okay. And like, ⁓ look, I opened the door to the bathroom, and there's a virus sitting there. You know, I opened the door to this part of the this part of the body, there's a virus sitting there. So now I'm in a ramp up a fever, I might ramp up an immune response, I may shut off all my orifices, which is means cover them in mucus, which nobody likes, like they don't like their butt draining or their nose draining. Nobody likes that. but that's how your body's keeping things from coming in. So it can fight everything internally. But then what we see is as we continue care with children in that realm, your infections go completely away. And it's not because we're treating the ear infection, it's because we're actually getting the body back to communicating like it's supposed to. Britney: I love it when you get sciency. I mean, this is like up my alley. Thank you for that explanation. I think that's super helpful. So I think we're going to finish up this episode by kind of asking the big question that a lot of parents are wondering. How can I keep my kid from getting sick? So obviously, like you just talked about, chiropractic adjustments. We talked about spending more time outside, having good sleep routines, eating actually nutritious food, and a little bit less sugar. What else would you add to that list? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Yeah, decreasing screen time. Because I mean, if any type of school kids are on their tablets and their screens within school, you need to count that time as well. Get back to family, right? Think back to the olden days, what was it, 20 years ago. But like you mentioned being outside, but really choosing, your emotions have a huge play with it. Like trauma is kind of a trigger word for a lot of people, but really getting back to the core foundation of family and spending that time together because our emotional resilience is just as much an impact to what our immune response is. And so if we can have really happy thoughts, if we can be kind to each other, when you wake up and you say, and you feel happy, that is how your body is then going to translate throughout the day. So it's the same thing if you wake up and you're like, ⁓ I feel like crap today, chances are something's gonna probably happen in a few hours to the next day, right? It's like your body knows, but then if you're feeling that, you're saying that, then key into that of, okay, maybe I need some supplements. So then we would do Aldeberry, Vitamin C, Conjublex, Immune Boosters, Acanasia, extra hydration lots of times can be super beneficial. I agree with you more on that. don't really want to add more because I can really take this conversation in different route, but that explanation was perfect. I would say if there's one supplement, zinc, a chelated zinc, zinc chelate is one of those things that as soon as the immune system drops, your zinc, goes away. And because of, again, where we live, the lack of sun, vitamin D, ⁓ If we can get our zinc stores increased, that will help with your immune resilience. And I will say with D, since you just brought it up, most of the time children aren't on enough vitamin D. The dropper, whenever you buy vitamin D over the counter, and it's usually coming in the form of some sort of liquid, right? Number one, it should be carried with an oil, otherwise your body's not gonna absorb it. It has to have fat with it. ADE and K are fat soluble vitamins, mito vitamins. There needs to be a there needs to be a fat with it. So it needs to be an oil of some form. But they're not consuming enough. Children should be getting between probably around, right around 12,000, I mean, sorry, 2000 international units of vitamin D a day. Your average adult should be consuming between 5,000 and 6,000 IUDs of vitamin D a day. So if they're not getting that in the form of good fats, which is butter and whatever you want to put fat sources in like Sardines. Everybody loves them. These different fat sources, right? If they're not getting that, which most children aren't getting it that way, sun exposure is key. ⁓ the winter, you're not getting the sun exposure you need because of how it sits. So D is another big one that needs to be up at least 2000 international units a day. And most of those droppers only give you 500 because that's what it says. That's the recommended daily amount. But that's for that's just for maintenance. That's not for actually Britney: No. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: therapeutic benefit of the. Britney: So is that something that you would even increase if you feel like you have sickness starting up? Okay. All right. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Absolutely. Yes. ⁓ absolutely. Britney: Awesome. Well, thank you for those tips. think this was a great episode. A lot of parents are going to find not only some tips in it, but also just the depth of knowledge that you guys have is incredible. We are going to link to your website in the show notes as well. But I did see on your website that you have something called the Parents Guide to Raising Healthy Kids. So I think that's really important to point out in this episode. I'm going to link directly to that in the show notes as well. Can you tell us a little bit about where to find you on social media? Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Yeah, we're at Prime Family Centers. can find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. Yep, you can find us on YouTube to watch the Prime Family Podcast as well. done probably seven episodes on this alone in the last three years, probably eight. We could probably do an episode on this every month. We have so much information in there regarding the immune system and immune health in children and adults. Britney: Yeah. Awesome. Well, I'm so glad that we're doing a four part series because we're only, we're going to be switching the topic a little bit, but this is only episode one with you guys. So we're going to learn so much more coming up next. We're going to be talking about constipation in kids. That is a common problem as well. So diving into that topic and things that parents can do for that as well as Are our kids too busy these days? My kids are school age, they're in sports now, and I think a lot of families are constantly running. So what does over scheduling do to the developing brain? That's going to be another episode we hit on. And then finally, we're going to have a whole episode on migraines and headaches. So if any of those things resonate with you guys as listeners, or you know anybody who would be interested, I feel like honestly, they resonate with everybody. Everybody deals with these things here and there. You guys are going to be a wealth of knowledge. So thank you for joining us for this first episode. Drs. Julie And Skip Wyss: Thank you.