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The Eyes of Tammy Faye · The Art of Costume Podcast

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It's hard to find the matching items with the break with the
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bracelets with the earrings. So anytime I was able to find
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Originals, I wanted them. My mom and grandmother told me
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that I should have called them You don't have to go far to find
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this stuff. Hello and welcome to the
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podcast. I'm Elizabeth Joy glass and I'm
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one of Tammy phase, puppets Spencer Williams.
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These are getting out of hand. Oh my gosh Spencer happy
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Comic-Con. Happy comic.
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Hon. Oh my gosh.
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So much has come out in the past 24 hours.
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I know I feel unwell, like I just need to like, lay in my bed
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with my cell phone and just keep refreshing Twitter.
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Every three seconds. I am excited.
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I have been brought to Joy to tears anticipation, especially
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for the Marvel nerds. Yeah, I let's go down the list.
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We have a low-key season to a daredevil TV show.
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Oh, right. Like that.
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Like the new one. Yeah, which is why it's the
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same. Yeah, but you like, that's
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crazy. Oh, my gosh.
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Is so much. They Guardians of the Galaxy
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free, which we knew the new Ant-Man, movie, it's confirmed,
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like Kang. The Conqueror is coming in and
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we have these Avengers movies are coming out.
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I mean, they announced like three or four years worth of
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content. I'm just like dang.
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Want to go to Comic-Con? Have you ever been to?
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I haven't. It's hard.
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Like I think it's hard to get tickets you and I should make it
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happen next year. I thought we could do we get a
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press pass? It's probably my guess we should
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have liked the set set up so that we set up like a the Arctic
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Asia podcast booth and meet our 10 fans maybe not a booth but
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let's look into Press passes. Definitely, it's a fun.
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I like I've done l.a. Comic Con which was like fun,
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but Stephanie not the same. It's just like more comic book,
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Focus, which is fine. I love comic books but like, you
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know, they were announcing the New Black Panther movie at l.a.
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Comic Con now like, yeah, I've been to a bunch of, like, like,
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Anime conventions, but I've never been to actual like comic.
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N well, maybe next year, maybe next year.
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We'll see, we'll see Spencer. How was your week?
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Oh, it was good. You know, just we're finally
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hopefully at the end of summer, I hope I know that I'm done with
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all my weekend. Summer programs for students,
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nice, nice, do a lot of like fashion industry, related
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workshops, and I weekends and I'm done for the summer.
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So, hopefully that means Means less time in the outdoors.
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I'm just ready for winter. I am not ready for winter, but I
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am ready for a change. Yeah.
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Who else was ready for a change? Spencer, Tammy Faye Bakker.
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Yeah. After that, small little nowhere
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town. She grew up in Spencer.
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What did we watch this week? This We finally watched the eyes
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of Tammy Faye. And I am so excited to talk
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about this movie with you, Elizabeth.
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I love it so much. I wish we did this episode
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earlier in here around the Oscars.
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My literally watched it the night before the Oscars.
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So I literally just watched it. I like I wasn't super interested
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in seeing it. I just wasn't, I just wasn't
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interested. But then like all these like
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really good press It came out about it and you were like, oh
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my gosh, you have to watch this. And I was like, okay, I'll watch
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it for the podcast and I really liked it.
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I so I have like watched or listened to some like True Crime
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stuff about her and her husband. So like I went with like, not
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the greatest opinion of her, but her husband was evil but she
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just seemed really oblivious. Well, don't care.
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Like the whole Through the film and there's a previous
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documentary about about her as well.
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I believe as a same name dies, a Tammy Faye.
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Oh, and I mean, that's really what the whole, you know, story
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is about is how for years. I mean, so many people had this
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like - idea of who Tammy Faye Bakker was because I mean
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there's a big population that watches, you know, PTL and
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whatnot. But there is also a bigger
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audience that did not watch. Yeah, they're so.
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Oh, so all we saw was the tabloids, it's talking about,
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you know, these two evil, religious people who are taking
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advantage of people's money and, you know, spending it on crazy
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stuff. But what people don't really
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know is like, the true story behind her and I thought that
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this film, I really like brought her to life in such a beautiful
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way, and I loved it. Yeah.
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I've been a Tammy Faye fan for a long time.
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So I'm really excited to talk about this would not have pegged
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you as a Tammy Faye fan but Sir, since you're such a fan, do you
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want to start us off with a summary, of course, in the 1970s
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Tammy Faye Bakker and her husband?
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Jim rise from humble beginnings to create the world's largest
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religious broadcasting network, and theme park Tammy Faye
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becomes Legend a for indelible eyelashes.
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Her incredible singing, and her eagerness to embrace people from
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all walks of life. However, financial problems
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scheming Rivals, and a scandal soon threatens to topple their
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Carefully constructed Empire. That is the eyes of Tammy.
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Faye. If you haven't seen it, get on
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to HBO Max. Yeah, it's on there and also
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some cool like behind-the-scenes features as well.
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I should look at that. I didn't notice that.
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It's only 15 minutes long but it's worth the watch going
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behind the Wardrobe. We have director Michael
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Showalter and costume designer Mitchell Travers, who you will
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know from In the Heights. Late night and Hustlers.
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Mmm, this is like the perfect film for Mitchell.
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I kind of met him a little bit at the costume designers Guild
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Awards, and he's very fun and bright.
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So, like, when he does films, like Hustlers and eyes of Tammy
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Faye, it just has like a distinct Mitchell.
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Look, I love that. This was definitely a distinct
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wardrobe Mitchell, talk to below the line about his prep for the
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eyes of Tammy Faye. Say he said, one of the things I
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did on this movie was, I assembled an enormous collection
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of every image. I could possibly find of the
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baker's both Jim and Tammy. And then I started to compile
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them down into a five-year span. What I wanted to do, mostly was
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just understand how they evolved and changed with money with Fame
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as their relationship ebbed and flowed with children with
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influence with power with. Also, he was like, let's get it
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all in there. Wow, Let's pack this Wardrobe
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full of everything. Yeah, because the film really
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follows such like a big part of her life and it goes from what
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the 70s to the 90s. So that's a lot of costume, a
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lot of influences, a lot of a lot, a lot of love, a lot of
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stuff, a lot of stuff. And also, because she was on
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television all the time on the TL and then also just you know
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covered in media a lot Mitchell didn't want to make her like
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into a character. He talked to Awards daily.
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He said I felt that we were taking a look at a woman who was
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covered by the media in an excessive nature.
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We owed it to her. She was very careful about her
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image and she was careful as to what she was wearing in front of
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the press. I wanted to know what was going
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through her. Mind when she got ready for
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those key moments. I studied her pretty obsessively
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to figure out why she was getting dressed in those ways.
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She lived on camera. I thought it was important to
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get those little details as correct as I could.
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I had a big responsibility to follow her lead in those key
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moments. It was also important to deviate
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a little bit to tell her story and moments that weren't covered
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by the Press so he was Like we gotta we gotta be honest about
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who she was and like respect, you know, how she dressed
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because she she knew what she was doing.
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Tammy Faye whether or not you think it was like you know, too
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much are like clownish. She knew exactly what she was
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doing. Every time she went on camera.
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Yeah. She was very detail-oriented she
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I mean, the film really goes into this a lot but she, you
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know, her hair color. What she was wearing her, Nails
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are eyelashes. Her makeup.
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Everything was like varied deliberate.
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She just had control of everything.
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Absolutely absolutely and Spencer, we will get into that
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more after our break. Can't wait.
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Are you ready to dive into this beautiful world of Tammy Faye?
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Absolutely Spencer. We start with this opening shot.
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The film is called the eyes of Tammy Faye.
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So obviously the shot the film opens with a shot of Tammy Faye.
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Is beautiful eyes and eyelashes. I could imagine your thoughts
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when the film started here by like okay.
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I was just like, this is so 80s. Like, I love that like, she was,
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like, 80s. Makeup is perfect.
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And I will never change. Like, she was just like, no,
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this is, this is who I am. Well, she loved the end the
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thing about Tammy, Faye. And Jessica Chastain who is
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brilliant in this film. That's why she won the lead
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actress. This year at the Academy Awards,
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gasps she said in an interview that like, which I agree with
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her Tammy Faye was always at 11, or what I would say is like a de
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100, like Tammy. Faye is always doing the most
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even when she was at her worst. Should wake up and put on
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everything whenever she's saying, it would be like a quiet
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song and she's still be belting it out.
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And her makeup is just always, you know, painted for like a
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crazy night club even if it's 9 a.m. in the morning.
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We absolutely, but, uh, that is not how Tammy Faye always lived
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her life. Those opening shots.
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They kind of make me anxious. I never wear nothing about like
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organized religion, but we won't dive into that.
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So, like these opening scenes I'm like, ah, like it's like hot
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and his church. There's lots of brown and dark
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colors yellows. It's the whole opening scenes.
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Like, yeah, that's feel so stuffy, and uncomfortable and
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yeah. We actually it is because this
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is like the Midwest like middle of nowhere.
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Super charismatic church and they really convey that while
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still like through the colors, the colors are so buted, and
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it's like, that's always how she looked at her life, like,
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everything when she was a child was like, you know, drained of
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color everything she wanted. She could not have Yeah, it's
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kind of interesting because she like wasn't really allowed to
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participate, like, in the church activities.
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So in all these like muted colors, so then as she grows up,
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it's like color into everything. But now that she has control of
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her life, she wants everything to be colorful.
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Hm-hm. Her mother in these opening
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scenes, Rachel who is played by Cherry Jones?
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She does this character so well, she does.
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But every time she opened her mouth because she looks like
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really good throughout the whole thing.
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Like even though they don't have a lot of money, she always looks
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like put together. Yeah, every time she opens her
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mouth though. I'm like, can you just like be
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supportive of your daughter for two seconds?
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She loves the church. She's trying to make up for what
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is considered a mistake? You know, because she's
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divorced. So she's not allowed to like
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bring her child anywhere. Anything, but she still like,
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has a lot. I love and respect for the
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church so she's wearing like a nice blouse.
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It's very buttoned up very nicely so that I think that's a
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lot of the inspiration to the characters costume.
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Absolutely. But as soon as Tammy has control
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of her own wardrobe, it is cute is cute.
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I love opening Tammy with the headbands so cute.
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That wasn't me and Middle School.
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Those headbands I wear headbands all the time.
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I am. Yeah, just so cute and I include
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a lot of photos of Tammy and Jim from like throughout their life
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and like Mitchell. Traverse.
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Replicates them almost like to a tee with.
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Yeah, like, that characterization through
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costumes. I feel like he just Alters it to
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look good on Jessica Chastain. But it's as close to her as he
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could get. Yeah.
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Also like I see Tammy and this picture, like she's so cute.
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Cute. Like how did he get her?
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Well, like, he must have been Charming because he's like, I
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don't know. He gives me bad vibes.
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Just from this picture. Jessica Chastain said that.
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There's a thing about Jim Bakker, which, by the way, Jim
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Baker's still alive. And I think you might even still
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be on TV. Yeah, he is.
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But Jessica Chastain said that the thing about Jim that she
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thinks Tammy fell off and was that?
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She felt like Jim could do anything like anything.
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He said he wanted to do. He could do and actually for a
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majority of their lives. I mean, he did, he did
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everything. Yeah, yeah.
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So she was like, you know, that's kind of like a quality
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that any of us would like fall in love with that's and someone
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true. That's true.
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When it comes to her fashion and these early stages, though,
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Mitchell talk to a words daily. He said from an early age.
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Yes, she was very Interested in fashion.
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She always love getting dressed even though she didn't come from
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the greatest of means so it started with the transformative
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nature of makeup. She could almost apply
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confidence, it began with that and as her resources and reach
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grew, she took it very seriously and wanted to look a certain way
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it got carried away. Of course, Tama used to say that
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her shopping addiction was cheaper than a therapist.
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But that's very true. Like in these early scenes,
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where it's like, her clothes are kind of plain compared to what
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she will be wearing her makeup really stands out.
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Oh, yeah, she's beautiful. And we haven't talked about
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Andrew Garfield yet. Answered Garfield.
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Really went all the way with this whole today.
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He did. I always forget, he's British
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and I watched an interview and I'm like, yeah, like It's not
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Jim Baker, it seems really weird.
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I forget he's he's British to because I also just watched
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under the banner of heaven, where he plays a Mormon
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character from Utah. Utah.
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Yeah. But yeah, like he does such a
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good American accent and it was it's really funny.
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I saw it in an interview and someone was like, you play a lot
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of religious characters. There are like light, are you
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religious like Happening here. He's like, I'm not religious.
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I just find these people fascinating.
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He's like, I just feel like he's like, I don't know.
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I just don't get it. He is so good at this role and I
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just love his costumes to because Andrew Garfield's
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characters, like always like kind of put together, I mean
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they're at like a religious Bible College so they hides.
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I'm guessing they have to really be like put together at all
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times. Yeah.
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Pretty much pretty much. I wouldn't know.
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No, but that's what I assumed. Well, it's also like the late
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1950s, early 1960s. So everybody, everybody was a
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lot more put together back then, but they get their first TV show
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on. What was it?
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What was the first channel they were on before?
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PT l--, the 700 Club, right? Know the 700 Club was the show
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he created but it's it's just another Christian.
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At work, where they have their kids show?
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Yeah. The I think this is just like
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the beginning of the beginning, but I love these opening scenes,
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the puppet show is so cute and Tammy and Jim look adorable.
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I mean, Andrew Garfield with this like a bowl wig is so cute.
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I need to be, he's so funny and she, her look is completely
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changed now. Mitchell, talk to below the line
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about her. And he said, Said no one can do
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Tammy like Tammy. So I really felt like she gave
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me an incredible Arsenal to work from and that she made such
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specific choices that I feel like no costume designer could
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ever get close to her. Styling sometimes it was best to
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just let her drive and follow her lead and get as close to
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some of her most iconic looks as we could.
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So I like what he said about like letting Tammy Drive The
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costume design. Yeah, it's a good point, though,
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because he's like, I can't be Tammy Faye, you know?
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So let's just look at what she actually wore and just try to
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follow her lead. Yeah, which is so true.
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And I love how he's like she made very specific choices
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because this is the first scene where she's blond and it's kind
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of her first step into creating her.
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Look to please the audience. Because that's what she wanted
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her look to do and at the time, like, being blond was super
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popular. Yeah, so, she kind of like takes
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this first step into like, pleasing other people by dyeing
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her hair wands. It's I love the opening scene.
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It's so fun, and I just love the puppets.
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We're looking at pictures of like some, for actual puppets,
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to pretty scary. Pretty yeah, dog.
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Puppets a little much for me. Tiny puppets are just kind of
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creepy. Yeah, just kinda big puppet fans
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over here. I'm not, I'm not even if they're
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involved with like Andrew Garfield and a bathtub still not
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a big puppet person. Now that was creepy, that was
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creepy, but we keep on trekking as they get into this world of
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religious broadcasting where it Reduce to one of our favorite
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guys. Vincent D'Onofrio.
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Yes. Jerry Falwell.
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The Kingpin himself. Love this man so funny.
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I don't know this to me. Just feels very Vincent
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D'Onofrio. Even still like he's playing
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Jerry Falwell of all people. They just put a little wig on
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him and some glasses but other than that I'm like it's through.
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I also love her. Outfit metal.
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Travis are two words daily, the color came from the classic pin
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pink and green mascara tube. There is a subliminal thing
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going on for some people when you pair those two colors
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together, it's the first moment where Tammy can meet a real
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somebody and it's kind of a slap in the face of how that
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interaction goes. She wants to be at the big
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table. I wanted something bold there
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because she is literally pulling a chair to sit with these
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powerful men at the table. I loved that.
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I wanted to play what that subliminal messaging because for
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people who watch their mothers put on, put it on throughout
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their life, it hits all the right notes.
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She is also in a sea of men's wear.
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The colors are semi inspired by Easter, but mainly wanted her to
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pull focus with her clothes. It's brilliant.
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I love that. Yeah.
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And this is true. She is like, literally, right in
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the center of like the most, like, toxic men.
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You could probably think. Yeah.
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And she is being extremely bold at, like even today.
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Especially in the more like Charismatic Christian circles.
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It's like the men do all the business, all the talking and
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the wives are just supposed to like keep to themselves.
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And Just trust their husbands and pastors, like they're not
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supposed to be at the big table. They keep themselves to
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themselves. So she's really like, this is a
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bold move and why Jerry Falwell just like does not like her is
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because she did not sit and keep her mouth shut.
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Exactly. So gross but yeah, I know
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exactly what mascara to were talking about to, that's so
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funny. Oh my gosh, I love that.
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How about they finally get? To the PTL, their own channel.
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I love the scene though. We are blessed scene.
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I'm just gonna admit, I have a lot of these songs to my
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Spotify. I do not listen to like
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Christian music at all, but when Jeff Jessica Chastain or damn,
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effacing it, I'm here for it. I good.
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It was so funny for me because it's like, these are still, like
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songs that are sung in church. Like, I grew up singing a lot of
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these songs in church, their Popular but we have like this
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Christmas scene and Tammy Faye is doing the most beautiful so
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good. So Mitchell did like a
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combination of like vintage shopping and building things for
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her but he said to a word Staley that this Christmas jacket.
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He said that was the first piece I bought for her.
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We No, there was a Christmas sequence when we started
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shooting, but I thought it was such a bizarre item of clothing
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so he was like, this needs to be in there and then the
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opportunity arose for it to be in there.
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Please do a Christmas scene. I have the perfect jacket as so,
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right? And I think we're going to talk
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about this later too, but just seeing all the extras in the
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background to like this costume design job was not an easy one.
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Now, see how Had all the world's most dramatic costume people.
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And then there's like a ton of extra surrounding them are times
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and it was pretty covid. So like they weren't trying to
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limit, right? How many people were, you know?
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They're, they're just like filled every single seat.
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Yeah. And I'm props to Jim to like
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he's wearing the tie that matches her.
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Jim tries to match Tammy in the most Jim way that Chan.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And then I love, like, just the Montage of them being
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televangelists and just seeing all the different costumes that
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just kind of go by even if it's not like you're like, oh, that's
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a good one. That's a good one.
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Different costumes. All the different hair Tammy
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just talking about. I this is one thing I kind of
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know about her but didn't realize quite how you know, into
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Talking about like current issues she was.
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And I'm like, man if she had just not had a crazy husband and
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been left to like kind of like do her own thing, she would have
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been fantastic. Yeah well she was not afraid to
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talk about whatever she felt like talking about which was
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like so frowned upon, I mean in this world that she lives and
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people like what is she, why? How how is this happening?
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Like all the time of Tammy Faye. And I love that.
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About. She was just we're talking about
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the penis pump. Yeah.
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Had which I love because there is like they have one just like
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on like a piece of like, I don't know, cardboard or something and
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then her and the lady like operating it, they're just some
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like these beautiful pastel color, right?
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So funny did jewelry in this film, is out of this world out
27:25
of this world. And then when she's showing her
27:29
mother around the house, She has what I have to say is, like, the
27:33
ultimate 80s outfit. I love this costume.
27:38
It's one of my favorites for sure.
27:40
She's wearing like this light blue.
27:44
It's like a light teal. Yeah, it's her hair is teased in
27:50
all the right places, but she's wearing this jacket.
27:53
That has these like tassels coming off of it.
27:57
It is one of the coolest jacket I've ever seen.
27:59
It is So good. I just could look at it all day,
28:04
it's so good. It looks like it's either suede
28:07
or micro Suede and like The Fringe coming off.
28:11
It. The color blocking.
28:13
It's wild. It's so wild.
28:16
It's also. So Tammy, Faye and it works with
28:19
the environment around her too. Oh yeah.
28:22
Oh yeah. Like this makes complete sense.
28:24
It's it's so Chic. Actually, she's like quite the
28:27
fashion icon at this moment for me.
28:30
She really is Is um, even her bed?
28:33
Where is so Chic? Like that?
28:38
Nightgown with like the butterfly cut out on the top?
28:41
Yes, I was like Jim. How are you not paying more
28:43
attention to your wife clearly? Yeah, you're not interested.
28:49
She's done up at all times. Yes.
28:52
All time. I don't think you maybe see her
28:55
without makeup. Once during this whole thing,
28:59
maybe. I mean, because Has it like
29:01
permanently done? Yeah, so so eyelids wild and her
29:07
music career. She like, even in the recording
29:11
studio, she's doing the most, she's doing the most.
29:14
She sings that song, don't give up, which I love that song.
29:18
It's intoxicating and she's doing the most, like, she's just
29:22
like belting out. These lyrics wearing this bright
29:25
blue outfit and this like hot pink belt.
29:29
It's oh, yeah. Yeah, I love this dress because
29:32
it's like this blue chiffon layer over this like bright pink
29:39
and it's like she has all the colors on.
29:41
I feel like, yeah. And of course, like, she's
29:43
against like, this, like brown environment around her too and
29:47
she has a one guitarist over, they're gonna produce her
29:51
Nashville music producer Gary, I think his name is, I don't
29:55
remember, but whenever she she Is with Jim, the longer.
30:05
This is running whenever she's on TV with Jim, she just looks
30:10
kind of sad. Yeah, I mean, yes, Tammy Faye is
30:14
always sad being around Jim. And something that the Press was
30:18
always picking up. There's this like idea that
30:20
Tammy Faye was, I mean, she was always crying whenever she was
30:24
sad, Tammy Faye would cry. That was, like her thing.
30:27
Yeah, which understandably I feel like I cried I a lot lately
30:31
too, but there's like this idea. And I press that her, like, her
30:36
makeup was always like running from all the crying and like,
30:40
you can't actually find any like footage or pictures of her
30:45
mascara ever running like, it's permanently on their people.
30:49
I'm glad that they didn't do any of that and this movie, but to
30:54
yeah, but from this point forward, things really spiral
30:57
out of control, so I think we need a little little break
31:00
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31:03
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32:16
Spencer. Are you ready to see some nice
32:18
coats? I love a nice coat.
32:22
We talked about this. If the girls of fish Netflix,
32:24
actually, and I have Co NV, I just wished.
32:27
I could wear coats in Los Angeles.
32:29
It's too damn hot. Maybe you need to move Spencer.
32:32
I mean honestly at this point I'm ready to move because it's
32:38
too hot it is too hot and you're gonna melt not to use this time
32:42
to talk about how so many of you are ignoring climate change but
32:45
a lot of you are ignoring climate change and this yeah, 20
32:49
years from now when we're all sitting in a Pacific Ocean which
32:52
is just a giant dry desert. I hope you all go back to this
32:57
podcast. Listen to me.
32:59
It's like it's your fault. It's your fault.
33:01
The reason that Why we're turning into Mad Max Fury Road,
33:05
right? You all know how that turned
33:06
out? Our actions have consequences,
33:10
even if you want to ignore them. Tammy Faye knows how to wear a
33:16
coat. She knows how to put her
33:20
daughter in a coat. She does, this is, you know
33:23
what? Mitchell called her therapy
33:25
sessions. Basically, she's stuff going to
33:28
actual therapy. She's like, I'm gonna buy you
33:30
all coats. Yeah, yep.
33:32
And we're all going to look at them.
33:34
Even Cherry Jones is character. Rachel looks good in that coat.
33:38
She does. She looks so distinguished and I
33:42
love how tanley recognizes that. Like even though her mother has
33:48
hurt her deeply, she understands that her mother was also her
33:52
deeply. And he's like, oh, we need to
33:54
show her love and encouragement. Yeah, I mean, Tammy tries to
33:58
find the like love and all people.
34:02
So, So she's like, yeah, my mom's wrong me, but I'm going to
34:05
stand by her which is probably why she, you know, she's with
34:08
Jim for so long to. Yeah.
34:10
So, and she's like, I'll, I will love her and put her in this
34:13
fabulous. Co I love how she's like.
34:18
I look like a bear and then like the logger.
34:20
She's looking at herself. She's like, it is quite nice.
34:23
Yeah, look like a good bear. I want a cheetah print coat.
34:29
So bad. Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
34:32
Spencer. Yeah.
34:34
What? I wish I could keep out of my
34:35
mind is seeing any sort of like bullying scene especially this
34:40
where we're Tammy, walks up all you know, she's all smiling
34:45
being Tammy Faye for good. She looks great.
34:48
She has his beautiful jacket on with like the most Exquisite 80s
34:52
jewelry. She literally walks up all
34:54
smiling and laughing for no reason.
34:56
And she overhears like everyone talking about her and calling
35:01
her a clown and I just To grab my laptop and rip into yeah,
35:05
like so mean for no reason. And like, while Jim is not being
35:12
mean or saying anything about her, it's like, you know, he
35:15
agrees because he's not, he's not shutting it down, he's not
35:19
like defending his wife, he lets it happen, he lets it happen,
35:24
and then creepily wrestles with his secretary man.
35:29
That was like, the one part. I was like it, she Like how can
35:33
you do that? And not like, wonder, why people
35:36
are saying spreading rumors? Right, my eyebrows are going up
35:41
to at first, I was like, yeah, it's like, no wonder Tammy is
35:46
attracted to the hot music producer.
35:49
She works with me and Spencer were talking about this earlier.
35:54
I was like, she needed to leave. Jim and Mary this man.
35:59
Yeah, he's so cool. Gary for the win, Gary for the
36:05
win. I'm like someone must have like
36:08
seen something cuz like, okay, this man Drop just because he
36:14
drove your like in labor wife to the hospital because you would
36:20
not pick up the phone does not mean they're having an affair
36:24
like right? I mean, yes, I know.
36:29
Yes, I know. But like I'm like, okay there
36:32
Clearly together all the time recording tracks, right?
36:36
Like the chancellor track, some fire tracks, clearly the chances
36:41
of him being there when she went into labor were, you know what?
36:44
Actually pretty high, right? The fact that you didn't
36:47
immediately leave the set of your television show to drive
36:51
your wife to the hospital. Like what else was she supposed
36:54
to do? Elizabeth heated right now.
36:57
Yeah. Like your wife was having a baby
37:00
like yeah. Someone needed to Drive her to
37:02
the hospital. Yeah, it was really frustrating
37:06
and but Tammy looks good though. She's at her good.
37:09
I mean her was going to break she's at that stage in her
37:12
pregnancy. But she's wearing like this,
37:14
it's not exactly right as we're like, almost like a dark coral.
37:18
Yeah, this this is like when she is, I this is when she looks her
37:24
best like this is the Pinnacle. This is when she's the most
37:27
happy and then it's all downhill.
37:30
Yeah, from officially on. It's just the spiral.
37:34
Yeah I can we just talk about her nails.
37:36
Her second to okay. I like so for my job, I can't
37:40
have my nails done. So I envy people who have
37:43
beautiful nails like this, but also like, how do you live with
37:47
nails that? Well, I don't know, but
37:50
honestly, I'm kind of jealous just for like a day.
37:53
I want, I want to know what it's like to have.
37:55
Like some really long day, right?
37:59
That's that's what acrylics are for, its impress on.
38:02
On Spencer sure. But yeah, this is when she looks
38:05
her best and he looks fine to. He has like, like he's such a
38:10
like 80s like music producer, like I love his denim shirt and
38:16
the jewelry, like I was like, yeah.
38:19
Yeah, you are a music producer. Yeah, he looks real good, but
38:24
then we have the spiral into madness but Tammy Faye still
38:28
always rain like lots of pink wearing a tie.
38:32
Big fluffy robes and always carrying a Diet Coke.
38:37
I just yeah, I just feel like I relate to Tammy Faye and a lot
38:41
of this, you know, I mean, I haven't gone through the same
38:43
stuff as her but like you know that feeling where you just want
38:45
to lay in bed all day with a Coke and yeah, 0 band, just just
38:50
kind of like stare out the window.
38:52
Yeah, yeah. But that robe was sickening.
38:56
It's very nice robe. I want that robe with the with
39:00
the feathers. Ooh.
39:02
Yeah. Yeah.
39:02
Perfect. Not perfect.
39:06
Is Jen making her tell everybody about her almost Affair.
39:12
That's sick. Like it's making her cry on
39:14
camera, so they could get more money.
39:18
So rude. So, rude.
39:20
I get this picture off the screen.
39:22
I was like Andrew Garfield. This is my last.
39:24
I got like he lost all. I don't dislike Andrew Garfield
39:29
anymore but like Jim Baker, lost his Andrew Garfield.
39:32
Eats in the film. Yeah you're no longer The
39:36
Amazing Spider-Man. No no no.
39:40
Actually thinking about this. Look that she's wearing crying
39:43
on camera though. It's giving me a rose from The
39:47
Golden Girls Vibe. Yeah, I read this look, too
39:51
because it's plain. It makes her kind of blend into
39:56
her surroundings and I feel like she's really trying to look more
40:00
like, you know, the average viewer.
40:02
Our then she is trying to look like Tammy.
40:05
Yes, she is going back to blond, isn't she?
40:07
She's trying to like, oh, that's awesome.
40:10
I didn't think of it like that. Yeah, yeah.
40:13
Because you know, she wants them to like identify with her more
40:16
in this moment because if she goes on with everything, they're
40:20
going to be like, well you're a rich woman with everything.
40:22
Why should I feel bad that you had an affair?
40:25
Yeah, but then Jesus is taking her Higher and Higher and she
40:29
just yeah, Rockets into like the 80s.
40:32
Is just lots of glitter and sparkles and leg.
40:37
Warmers and just everything just gets very Tammy fide through the
40:42
roof. This sequence, the rhinestones
40:45
everything Mitchell talk to below the line about her
40:51
ever-evolving. Look, he said Jessica and I
40:53
really collaborated, very closely.
40:56
This is a very specific woman and I think there was always the
40:59
risk of taking things too far. Or four things to become parody
41:05
because of course, I believe that's what the media did to
41:08
Tammy Faye is they took her into sort of a cartoonish place.
41:13
We were always very careful, to be honest about depicting a real
41:16
woman all sides of her and so Jessica and I worked very
41:19
closely to make sure that we had a good balance.
41:23
We had to understand, of course, the Prosthetics that were on and
41:28
I had multiple body suits that were made for her to change her.
41:32
Over the course of time. We were able to track down how
41:36
her body changed with various weight, gain with surgeries,
41:40
with becoming a mother. We wanted all of that to carry
41:43
through and be honest about the changes that the real Tammy has
41:47
gone through. It was almost like fitting a few
41:50
different women which it's like that's like you don't really
41:54
notice it. But like that's very true.
41:57
Like they change her body throughout the course of it, and
42:01
yeah. It's like a whole different set
42:04
of measurements with a body suit.
42:06
Yeah, it's the a lot went into these looks and I just Mitchell
42:11
should have been nominated for an Academy Award.
42:14
I wish should have. I wish we could go back to our
42:16
Oscars episode and add this into it because I don't know.
42:20
But I so Tammy. Faye was just so good and the
42:23
hair I was at the hair team or the Prosthetics team makeup team
42:28
did win a cabbie award so it's how they better have.
42:33
So yeah, it's just it's legendary working.
42:37
Look at all. The extras are in this scene
42:38
again. Oh my gosh, I'm saying there's
42:41
so many, there's so many of them.
42:44
Speaking of the background Mitchell, had a very specific,
42:51
you know, kind of storyline for them as well.
42:53
He talked to below the line and said the tough part for us
42:57
wasn't just some big group of background that we could reuse
43:01
all the Time because when we first started seeing the
43:04
audience members of the PT l--, I wanted it to feel wholesome
43:08
and friendly and inviting like your favorite aunt and uncle in
43:12
the audience or your grandparents.
43:14
But then our story start to become muddied and unclear.
43:18
I wanted the same thing to happen with the audience.
43:21
So we started to use sharper colors, it was almost like two
43:25
different color palettes that we wanted to use.
43:28
So every time we had a large group of background It was like
43:32
starting from scratch with them because I had to serve such a
43:36
specific purpose in our movie. It really was an enormous
43:40
undertaking. That's insane.
43:43
I've never heard anyone talk about the background characters
43:45
like that before. That's incredible, just like the
43:49
slow transition of the background characters, like who
43:52
thinks about? That's crazy.
43:54
Someone who should have been an Academy Award nominated costume
43:57
designer, right? Oh, good.
44:03
So yeah, it's so impressive. All the background work, what's
44:06
also impressive is Tammy, Faye casually wearing like this huge
44:12
white fur. Look it just to go on a little
44:15
drive to see the potential theme park but like you know, just
44:19
another day just another day and also just clicked in my head
44:26
that there developer is also that American guy from the
44:31
handmaid's Hell, not just clicked into my head for some
44:35
reason because I was like he's very familiar and then all of a
44:40
sudden like flipping on to this slide I was like hey that's the
44:44
American guy from handmaid's tale, right?
44:47
I didn't realize that they actually built a theme park and
44:50
I think it's still open. Is it?
44:52
That's creepy? I think so.
44:55
Like at one point it was as popular, it was like not as
44:59
popular but it was like doing pretty good business and it was
45:02
like comparative to Disneyland or Disney World to like I got it
45:06
open. Like it was that popular in this
45:12
scene though. Jim has a very different look
45:15
and Mitchell. Talk to a words daily, a little
45:19
bit about Jim. He said, Andrew and I both loved
45:22
the boyishness to the character and how he dressed.
45:26
There were a few scenes where he is making plans for the
45:29
waterpark and I wanted him to address.
45:32
Like Bob the Builder. I do think there is a part of
45:37
Jim that one. It's so much a I do think there
45:41
is a part of Jim that wanted as much attention.
45:44
That Tammy was getting. It was a fun back and forth to
45:49
dress them together. Based on my research, on who was
45:53
there at the time. Jim had a lot to say about what
45:57
Tammy was wearing all the time. I thought that was an
46:01
interesting insight. Site because she wasn't subtle
46:05
being a man and the Christian, right?
46:08
You have to do stuff in a certain way.
46:10
It was interesting to play with the idea of wanting to get more
46:14
attention but then fitting in with everything around you.
46:18
That's that's really interesting.
46:19
Yeah, he does have like a very boyish feel to him because he
46:24
does and I love what he said about him wanting to look like
46:27
Bob the Builder in this theme because it is like very
46:31
different From everything he's worn up to this point and it's
46:36
like he's always playing whatever role he's currently in,
46:39
right? And at this time he needs this
46:42
developer to believe like yeah he's someone who knows what he's
46:46
doing. He's always trying to fit in Jim
46:49
Baker and I'm he's always like on the chase.
46:52
Absolutely. But Tammy, just gets more
46:56
fabulous as the years go. All and this brings us though to
47:00
one of my favorite scenes. Is that I was excited to see
47:04
come to life. One of the reasons why there's
47:08
like Ben is so big? Oh look into recently into the
47:12
life of Tammy Faye was you know she was a part of this grouping
47:17
with Jim Baker where she was known as like you know they were
47:19
this evil couple who took advantage of Christian people
47:23
but like that really wasn't the case 100% whereas you know,
47:29
Tammy Faye used her platform to really Elevate lgbtq+ issues
47:34
which was, I mean, at the time insane on a Christian television
47:38
show at the height of the AIDS epidemic, she had on Steve
47:43
Peters who was a current AIDS patient.
47:46
We're at this time, people wouldn't even be in the same
47:49
room as AIDS. Patients Lelo breathe the same
47:52
air. She brought him onto the show
47:54
and they had a real conversation and you know she broke down on
47:57
tears talking about how it's too Christian duty to like love
48:01
people for who they are. And wrap your arms around them.
48:04
And you know from this point on she really became like an icon
48:07
to the lgbtq community because she from this point forward, she
48:11
continued with this message and she never let it go until you
48:15
know, her death in 2007 and I thought was so cool to see that
48:19
Jessica Chastain brought Steve to one of the premieres of the
48:23
film. Yeah, so I love that.
48:26
I love that. This is kind of like, what makes
48:28
me sad that she was connected to her husband.
48:31
Yeah. Because if she could have been
48:33
like her own person and like, really promoted this in the
48:37
Christian world, I feel like the American Christian Society would
48:41
be really different now. Yeah.
48:43
But then looking back at like the original recording and how
48:46
did it in a film? I mean it is 22, T is 100%
48:51
accurate. I mean, everything from the
48:52
hair, it's just down to the look.
48:55
It's right on. Yeah, I love that.
48:58
You can kind of see when you like look at like there too.
49:02
The two pictures side by side, this is one place where you can
49:05
see like he really tailored Tammy phase, look to Jessica
49:09
Chastain's body because it's not exactly the same but it has the
49:14
same like Essence as her original interview but just in a
49:19
look that's flattering for Jessica Chastain, right?
49:22
Like if you were to take a quick glance at you like oh that's
49:25
exactly the same but when you look closely, of course there's
49:27
some details are different but other than that like, it's very,
49:31
very close. Yeah, that's a beautiful scene.
49:35
Yeah, I love that. She brought him to the premiere.
49:38
Yeah, Jessica Chastain is right, but things get very not cool for
49:44
Tammy. Oh, man.
49:49
And just starting to not look so cool himself.
49:51
I mean, he does not age well throughout this film.
49:55
Now he doesn't, he doesn't this whole scene where he just like
50:01
explodes that Her and it's like hot, dude.
50:03
She you like she doesn't deserve this like yeah, she's supported
50:07
you through everything. Give it a rest.
50:10
Jim Abbott. Am he's?
50:11
Like, wearing this, like almost all golden look though.
50:14
Even when she's crying? She's still like looking
50:16
fabulous. I have almost this exact outfit.
50:20
You should wear it. I said I got it like from
50:25
Goodwill. When I was like in middle school
50:27
and I called it, my Golden Goddess Barbie outfit.
50:32
I like it. Oh, but things change rapidly
50:38
from this point on. I do appreciate that.
50:43
Jim did do a. I apologize for my actions TV
50:48
sitting. I didn't actually, I don't like
50:52
that was, I apologize for our actions.
50:54
Oh, yeah. That was the one part.
50:56
I didn't like, because I was like it, leave her alone.
50:59
Like, and of course, like he has her sing At the end.
51:03
It's just like Jim you're the worst but I love the scene do
51:07
because like looking at the actual recording they are
51:10
wearing almost the same exact outfit too.
51:13
It's crazy. It's it is crazy.
51:16
Just like looking at the we were watching it now.
51:20
Actually. It's like so spot-on.
51:22
He's like letting you know, her lead if you want to see like
51:27
some real videos of Tammy Faye and Jim like it's all over
51:30
YouTube because this isn't Too far and yeah half.
51:34
So you can still find some interesting videos and they they
51:37
were on television like every single day.
51:39
Yeah. At the like the height of their
51:42
Fame and influence. So there is plenty.
51:45
There is plenty. I love it's not just her who
51:49
like is exactly looks exactly the same like he looks exactly
51:53
the same to yeah. Actually, if anything, like Jim
51:57
Baker's looks compared to like Andrew Garfield's.
52:00
Looks those are almost more clothes.
52:02
As to, you know, reality then Tammy's looks because it Jim
52:06
that was a pretty easy character seemed like, for Mitchell,
52:09
Trappers to replicate. He got it down pretty good at
52:12
every single time. Absolutely.
52:15
Absolutely. Also in these n scenes, I
52:19
couldn't quite pinpoint which pair of earrings Mitchell is
52:24
talking about to a words daily, but there is a pair of earrings
52:29
that he used right in the beginning.
52:32
Of like, they're like rise to fame.
52:36
And then also at the very ends because he wanted to kind of
52:39
connect, like they're her kind of like rise to fame.
52:43
And her kind of like, you know, fall fall from grace, really?
52:49
Yeah. By using like the same pair of
52:51
earrings and how she kind of like almost like gets back to
52:54
reality. Yeah.
52:55
After this but also he said to Awards daily about all of her
53:01
jewelry. He said I would take some of the
53:03
plastic jewelry that Tammy War. It's hard to find the matching
53:08
items with the break with the bracelets with the earrings.
53:11
So anytime I was able to find Originals, I wanted them.
53:15
My mom and grandmother told me that I should have called them,
53:22
we have it all Mitchell. You don't have to go far to find
53:26
this stuff, but I love the new Zayn.
53:30
Dinner the night. Line interview because it's
53:34
another one of those scenes were it's like ripped directly from,
53:38
you know, ABC News, they're wearing Tammy's wearing this red
53:41
shoulder pad look, which is basically, it could be the same
53:45
dress, honestly that the actual Tammy Faye war and same for Jim
53:50
and he's wearing the same plaid shirt.
53:53
It's even worn the same like on his body.
53:55
Yeah. Absolutely.
53:56
I love seeing her in this original footage because
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whenever she's not talking, she's Clearly, so done with the
54:03
situation. It's, I mean, it's so evident
54:08
and then even in the film, when the interview stop, she breaks
54:11
into tears. Like, she's just like I cannot
54:13
do this. This is ridiculous.
54:17
Although, I had no idea she sang at the court wild.
54:23
It's remember, it's not over till it's over, it's over.
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I love this scene to I love Even in the darkest time, she was
54:34
always trying to bring joy whenever she could even when she
54:37
knew like, it's over Tammy Faye. Like you like?
54:41
Yeah, it's over, you know, but she's still like, I'm going out
54:44
with a song because I still have some fans out there who loved me
54:48
just want to leave them with like a little bit of some sort
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of hope this is again one of those other looks that was
54:55
basically ripped to directly from the news from the Press
55:00
moment. Yeah, absolutely.
55:02
Lutely. Absolutely.
55:03
That red coat with, like the white and black polkadot that
55:08
shirt underneath. It's so good.
55:10
It's so good. I also love her.
55:13
Look at this, is this like this is like the early 2000s right at
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the end. The kind of ends in the 90s era.
55:19
Wait, okay, yeah. So we're in 90s right now but I
55:22
love she's gone back to like kind of her original hair color.
55:26
She's updated her, she keeps her wardrobe current, but her makeup
55:30
is exactly the same. 90s. Tammy is kind of like a sad
55:36
Tammy at first, but she's still not losing sense of herself.
55:40
She's still going to Works actually exactly what she wants
55:44
her favorite hair, but it does feel a little bit more darker.
55:47
I would say it's not as bright as you would usually expect, and
55:51
that's even more evident when she goes to prison to visit.
55:54
Jim, I mean, she's working black, which was shocking to me.
55:58
Well, is this one? She says, like know our marriage
56:00
is over, right? Yeah, she's like Did you sign
56:02
the divorce papers? Jim GM named.
56:07
Her voice was so perfect. Yeah.
56:11
But then, she gets asked to sing.
56:15
She gets asked to sing. And this is pretty.
56:17
This is a perfect ending. I loved it.
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This is all she ever wanted to do, right?
56:24
She's like, I was saying and look good.
56:27
She just wanted to sing and look good.
56:29
That's why she should have married the Nashville.
56:32
Producer, we would have gotten a Grammy.
56:36
Probably, I love the scene. It's such a perfect ending.
56:42
It's also funny though, because clearly most of it's like in her
56:45
head, like, entire background is not real, but it goes again to
56:50
like that idea. That Tammy Faye gave 100%
56:53
everything. Yeah, so like this is what she
56:56
feels like. When she's singing like the
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entire gospel behind her and everything she literally is Me
57:02
like she's at, you know, Caesars Palace right now.
57:08
Like this, what looks like this diamond-encrusted white gown
57:12
with dislike big neck piece. It's just so beautiful and it's
57:17
just like this tiny little audience that sprays, like, what
57:19
is going on? Yeah, yeah.
57:24
Oh, I love it. I love it.
57:27
Yeah, that was so good. It's fun.
57:30
It's just so colorful it It's like a comedy in ways, you know,
57:34
like I was laughing at several points.
57:36
I don't know if it's a tragic, got somebody.
57:40
Yeah. Yeah.
57:41
Comedy of Errors Tammy Faye ended up passing away in 2007.
57:46
She struggled with cancer for I think like almost a decade but
57:51
like, I know in like the ending prefer years like she did kind
57:54
of, I won't stay like became like a you know, huge celebrity
57:58
or anything but like she was she was Singing and she was even on
58:03
like the RuPaul show. One point.
58:05
Like she know she did like a lot of different things for the end
58:08
of her life. So I hope that in the end, she
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was happy. But yeah, who knows?
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It was funny because I was, I was watching this in my living
58:17
room. My dad used to work as a graphic
58:21
designer. I used to do work for this
58:23
Christian magazine and he said, they interviewed their son art.
58:28
He didn't interview, but they did an interview on him.
58:31
Jim Amy's son. And he was like, I was shocked
58:35
because he was just, like, the super, like, tatted-up Pastor
58:39
guy was like, yeah, I would not have expected that to be like,
58:44
Jim and Tammy son, but like he was just like super tatted up
58:48
and working with like, you know, the people, the church usually
58:51
frowns upon. Well, this myth, that brings us
58:55
to the end of eyes, Tammy Faye, but before we go, we have to
58:59
play our favorite game. We do.
59:02
Do, let's do it. The one costume to rule them
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all. Elizabeth.
59:12
Why don't you go first this week?
59:14
All right, my one costume to rule them all was the red and
59:19
white number. She wears in the very beginning
59:24
when she first tells Jim that she's pregnant.
59:27
It's the first time we see her with like that platinum blond
59:30
hair she's like it's the very beginning of their career.
59:35
She's like super happy full of Hope.
59:38
And it's the first like time. We see her using her wardrobe in
59:43
her hair and her makeup to really like make an impression.
59:46
Yeah. So like please the audience and
59:49
it's like her first step into that world.
59:52
Yeah, it's very cute. And also like we didn't really
59:55
say this earlier but it's also like one of the only time she's
59:58
wearing like a costume. It feels like because once we
1:00:02
get later life, like the thing she's wearing, that's just her
1:00:05
wardrobe. Like, she's like, I'm Wearing
1:00:08
this on stage today, but at that time I was like this is a
1:00:11
costume for your puppet show. Yeah, yeah so adorable.
1:00:14
Spencer, what was your one costume to rule them all?
1:00:18
Mine I fell in love with that Fringe jacket.
1:00:21
She wears good, I will say that is such a look.
1:00:27
It is such a luck. It's with paired with that blue
1:00:32
and it's like kind of like an ombre dark blue.
1:00:34
The hair is teased to the gods big Huge earrings, necklaces
1:00:41
bracelets the hot pink nails. The Rings.
1:00:44
Everything is just it's all over and I love it.
1:00:48
It's just a perfect. Look, perfect perfect.
1:00:53
And he doesn't have good luck. I need that jacket.
1:00:56
I probably would never wear it but I need it.
1:00:58
You do need that jacket Spencer and with that we are at the end.
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Elizabeth. What are we watching next week
1:01:07
Spencer? Sir, we have come to the end of
1:01:11
hot girl summer, but I thought we should go out with a hot girl
1:01:16
summer flick to rule them all. That's quite the understatement.
1:01:25
Next week to close out our hot girls summer series.
1:01:30
We are watching. Midsummer!
1:01:32
Yes, I'm so excited. I love this movie and let's
1:01:36
with, have you seen this movie? Have not honestly it was a
1:01:41
movie. I never intended to watch so
1:01:44
much so that I was into a podcast about it because I was
1:01:47
interested to know about it, but I was like, I don't really want
1:01:50
to watch this. So I pretty much already know.
1:01:53
I already know what happens, but I've never seen it.
1:01:56
Well you're in for a treat, it's so fun, very cute, very lovely.
1:02:01
I'll be honest, I'm ready to see that flower Down in action.
1:02:05
Yeah, nothing else, right? You're going to love it.
1:02:09
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1:02:12
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1:02:14
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