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John Haller: Growing AI Hatred And Anti-Tech Extremism · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  But we're going to jump right in here.
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  We've got John Haller back with us.
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  You want to make sure to check out some of the round tables he's a part of.
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  And his website, Fellowship Bible Chapel on YouTube, you can follow him under the Live
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  tab.
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  You can get the prophecy round tables, the one that most recently did, Technocracy, Transhumanism,
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  Mark of the Beast.
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  And look at all these guys, Patrick Wood, Scott Townsend, Britt Gillette, David Bowen,
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  and Mr. Haller.
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  John, good to see you.
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  Thanks for your time.
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  Hi, David.
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  Good to see you.
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  Thanks for all you do.
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  It's amazing.
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  I watched some of it last night and you know, I think a lot of people can maybe say the
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  same thing as I, my head was spinning after just half hour.
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  But anyway, we have a couple of different directions we could go.
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  You always are so great about doing the research and providing me some notes and ideas on what
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  to condense and what people want to know about as far as the body of Christ and biblical
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  worldview issues.
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  And one of the articles you sent me was from Wired and it's this anti-tech extremism.
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  Apparently, the U.S. law enforcement is warning of this as hatred of AI is growing.
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  This is multifaceted to me, John, because a lot of people are just now trying to understand
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  AI, little lone, like it or love it or hate it.
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  So walk us through this, please, and tell us what's going on.
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  So you remember it was seven, eight, nine months ago, Charlie Kirk was murdered in Utah.
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  After that, the president came out with a regulation to kind of, if this is sort of
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  white, the good news bad news was to protect Christians and their right to express themselves
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  in the public marketplace.
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  But it also sort of dragged, dragged in a lot of concerns about extremism and fascism and
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  that type of thing.
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  The problem with this is that when you put a regulation like that, a joint terrorism
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  task force and that type of thing, when you put that into local police departments, which
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  I think was one of the ultimate goals of this regulation, it sometimes gets a very
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  bad application because we know that there are, I hate to say this, there are bad police
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  departments here in the United States.
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  There are major metropolitan areas where you can go in and steal stuff in a store, particularly
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  if you're non-white, and they won't prosecute you.
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  And they will come after people who try to stop it.
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  This is something that's been going on in Britain.
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  So in this particular case, and I think what the warning from US law enforcement carries
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  with it kind of, you guys better be careful and not mess up.
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  What happened down in Texas, and I don't remember the exact city, it was a place where they
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  were building data centers.
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  Yeah.
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  And a lady was, and I can't remember her name, she's been in the news, she's been doing
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  interviews.
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  She complained on a Facebook group that she had set up that there was brown water in
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  the area around this new data center, which is, I mean, it seems like she's doing a community
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  service to warn people.
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  And in fact, by the way, the municipality eventually came out and said, hey, you should maybe
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  boil your water if you live in this particular area.
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  So there was truth to that, the brown water?
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  Oh, yeah, I mean, they had pictures of it.
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  She had video of it that she posted and pictures on her Facebook group.
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  But before the municipality came out, she got a visit from the police.
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  She was arrested on a felony charge under a Texas statute that is not allowed to make
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  a bomb threat statute.
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  She's never been arrested or anything, she's never had a speeding ticket or anything
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  like that.
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  And she was thrown in jail for the night.
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  Oh, my goodness.
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  She would admit, she posted something on a Facebook group about warning people about
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  this.
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  Yeah, see, you're having trouble grasping the reality of the situation.
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  I can see that you're struggling with this because it's like, well, if there's a problem
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  in your community, I mean, I belong to a neighborhood group, you know, and we post stuff
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  all the time.
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  And in fact, there's a lot of people are active now and they're saying, we don't want
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  any data centers.
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  Neuros because we live in a rural area outside Columbus and they're building data centers
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  all over the place and they're just and they're going to continue to do this until they run
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  out of money or we run out of electricity.
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  But she was just sort of like a public service, hey, there's an issue with the water and she's
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  charged under a bomb threat statute with a felony and spends the night in jail.
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  Now, they came out, they somebody intervened in this system and dropped the charges.
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  But this, this is the point, she should have never been arrested in the first place.
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  This has a, and people do this and the data, the data center companies, I don't know that
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  they stood up for her or anything like that.
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  And there's just this is, I'm sure you've interviewed Patrick Wood and Patrick was in
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  our roundtable recently on AI and technology and it's the, we'll call them the tech
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  bros.
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  The Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, the guys at Anthropic, open AI, CM Altman, and this whole group
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  and they have tremendous cache and sway with the Trump administration, Trump is pushing
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  the AI thing and there's, we talk on our roundtables about the problems with AI and some
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  of them are environmental, they, they do affect the water table, they have to have water
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  to be cooled down.
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  And so this lady complained about it or warned her neighbors and she gets arrested on a
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  felony charge.
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  And, and when you look at the way that, and this is the problem with AI, there are, I
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  think, good things that are coming associated with AI.
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  It does make your life easier in some ways, but it's the good news, bad news.
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  And the bad news is that it's subject to, it's subject to being abused.
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  And so, in fact, a recent technocracy news letter that Patrick would put out, talked
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  about how the deep state weaponizes AI to control a narrative.
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  And he has a very elaborate chart and graph.
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  And I would highly recommend people to go there, subscribe to his technocracy news and
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  get his newsletters and information because he has one or two of these things every day.
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  And he, I think he leaves a lot on the floor that doesn't really get into it.
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  But this is the problem with AI is that it makes weaponizing the system against people
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  so easy.
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  So, it, it, and so you see it being used, for example, you, there's all kinds of videos
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  that you can see on the problems in the UK.
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  There's on the street sharing the gospel reading scripture are being arrested.
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  There was a famous case of a lady who was walking by an abortion clinic and bowed her head.
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  And she was immediately arrested for praying within the safe zone.
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  She never said a word.
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  She never uttered a peep.
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  I don't even know that her lips were moving, but she was arrested.
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  And whether the charges stick or not is kind of irrelevant because the, if you ever get
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  caught up in our legal system, you, you can win at great cost to your time and freedom
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  and money and all that type of thing.
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  And that's why we have this first amendment is to prevent that.
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  But now it's being abused and AI is helping people abuse the system.
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  Let me give you one other example.
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  In Israel, Israel is at war.
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  Israel will talk a little more about this, I'm sure, as we go through the program, Israel
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  is at war on many fronts.
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  When I was in Israel last fall, everywhere we went that was a significant cultural,
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  historical site.
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  There was a group of IDF soldiers in the Golan Heights, Met Gaza in the old city, everywhere
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  we went, we saw IDF soldiers, active IDF soldiers.
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  They go in a heritage tour so they understand the nature of the state of Israel and its history
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  and it's how it's tied to the land that God promised to them in the Bible.
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  And I remember up to the Golan Heights, I was taking picture looking into Syria, you're
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  about 35 miles from Damascus up there and I accidentally caught a soldier in the corner
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  of my camera on one side.
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  And immediately there were three soldiers there saying don't do that, don't take any
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  pictures of the soldiers, please.
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  Because what's happened is some of those pictures are getting into the press and these left-wing
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  NGOs that are all funded by the same sources, by Qatar and other extremist organizations
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  like under the Soros and Brella.
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  They're now taking those pictures, running them through AI, finding out where the people
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  live and posting personal information about them on social media, they're doxing them.
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  And that's extremely easy with AI, I mean I'm an old guy relatively speaking but I think
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  I could figure out how to do it in almost no time at all.
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  So it's a huge problem and it's worse in Europe but it's coming here.
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  Well that goes back to the story and we'll wrap it up in a couple minutes over at Wired
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  that this report warned of widespread upheaval in response to AI adoption and it says
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  the chaotic atmosphere that may result from emergent AI technology in the next five years
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  may fuel large-scale protests that devolve into civil unrest and anti-tech violent extremist
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  activity, especially in large urban areas.
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  We didn't think about this, I didn't see this coming but it makes sense.
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  I mean some people are losing jobs, it's not just about water quality or the data center.
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  Some people are losing jobs, maybe some already have and they're upset and they're getting
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  angry about this.
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  Wrap us up on this topic of AI and this experience in time.
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  In all these governments, all the government entities here in the United States, they all
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  have an intelligence bureau counter-terrorism and that type of thing.
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  And so the good thing was this was to prevent anti-Christian terrorism like happened to
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  Charlie Kirk but the problem was the way this regulation is worded and how people interpret
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  it at the local level and even the federal level is very troubling.
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  And it will lead to unrest, it will lead to protests and it is a very big problem.
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  So there's the blessing and the curse thing that happens all the time with these type
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  of regulations.
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  And I'm a free speech guy, I don't like people saying bad things.
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  I don't like Tucker Katarelsen and Propacandus Owens and some of the nonsense that they
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  spew on it.
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  I don't know how they put out the number of programs that they do.
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  They obviously have a staff dedicated to misleading people but the problem is I don't know
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  if I want to shut them down.
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  I don't mind that they're on platforms, right?
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  As long as you can criticize them freely and counter it, counter it.
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  That's right.
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  And I think by letting them speak sometimes, they look if you get a thinking person on
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  the other end of it, if they're thinking, if they understand, if they think, if they've
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  been trained well, if they read.
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  I know there's a lot of ifs, they Tucker Katarelsen looks like an idiot.
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  But and he's always caught in these inconsistencies and everything.
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  And the stuff he says, it's just, it's every day something comes across my feed that he's
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  done recently, at least once, twice, 20 times.
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  And it's a little bit annoying, but it's very concerning that this is an issue.
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  So real quick, friends, Jeff put up that article at the very beginning of this conversation.
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  Check it out.
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  It's very thorough, very detailed over at Wired.
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  And again, it's called U.S. law enforcement warns of anti-tech extremism as AI hatred grows.
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  So before we jump into, we're really going over and talking about Turkey next because we
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  don't hear a lot about what's going on in Turkey and some of the issues there that are
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  kind of surprising.
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  Okay, John Halibur.
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  This is going by very, very fast.
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  Now let's talk about Turkey.
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  You sent me some bullet points in there.
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  There's so much in this and what's going on there that most people don't know about because
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  we don't hear Turkey in the news, right?
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  Tell us about your concerns.
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  Yeah, well, first of all, when we look at it from a Bible prophecy standpoint, I don't
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  think there's any question, but the Turkey is, I think, the major player in the Ezekiel
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  38 coalition.
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  There's an argument in our community is Russia, Megag, is Turkey, Megag.
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  I think the better the answer to that is Turkey is Megag.
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  That doesn't mean that Russia might not be involved in this invasion.
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  It also says Persia, but when Ezekiel wrote that passage, he was looking at the regions
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  from where these people would come from, not necessarily where the people that were living
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  in those regions ended up.
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  So I think he's looking at the region and so he described Persia, Megag, Tagarma, Gomer,
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  and clearly Turkey is a major, major part of that.
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  And I believe that some of the better historical evidence is that Megag was in Turkey.
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  So 25 years ago, Recep Erdogan became the prime minister of Turkey.
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  He had been the mayor of Istanbul.
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  He had won awards for recitation of the Quran while he was growing up.
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  He used to stand on the boughs of fairies across the Bosphorus and quote the Quran sort
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  of in a singing voice.
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  And he could do this to this day.
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  When he took power in around 2003, I believe one or two thousand one or two thousand three,
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  he Turkey had a secular military was set up for secular military.
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  So the Muslims wouldn't take control.
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  Well he has completely decimated the non-Muslim aspect of the Turkish military.
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  He throws reporters, press people in jail all the time, is currently coming up on an
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  election.
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  And just this week, within the last 72 hours, the Supreme Court ruled that the person
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  who was most likely to, who had been nominated to oppose him in the upcoming election, that
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  election, that nomination process was flawed and the guy could not run.
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  And then he sent troops or police into the party headquarters and completely tore it apart.
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  And so he's likely, if he runs or his son runs or somebody else thinks like him, he's
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  going to win.
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  And he has systematically changed everything.
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  About 20 years ago, he started an organization called Sedat, S-A-D-A-T, with one of his favorite
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  generals, who has since died, but the organization lives on.
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  And what that guy did was replace regular secular Turkish military guys with Islamist guys.
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  So we know that in the last year, in a half, over the last five years, Erdogan carefully
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  crafted an organization, a military group, militia, in Syria.
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  He had 51 bases around Idlib Syria.
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  When the Turkish Revolution took place in December of 2024, it came from Idlib.
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  This Al-Jawani, Al-Sharah, whatever you want to call him, I think one commentator calls
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  him Al-Sharia, which I think is a good thing, he's a former terrorist.
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  And it's beyond my comprehension, why Erdogan and Al-Sharah get such deference from our government.
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  Al-Sharah came to the White House last November, sat there in the Oval Office.
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  It was interesting when he was there, the Turkish foreign minister, who headed up the Turkish
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  intelligence, the Turkish equivalent of the Israeli Masad, is now the foreign minister
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  was sitting right there next to him in the White and the Oval Office.
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  Because I think he's Al-Sharah's handler.
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  And this was a very significant thing, that the Sunni Islam, David Worms, or made this
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  a notation a year later, that in December 2004, Sunni Islam took over Damascus, which
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  was the center, the geopolitical and religious center of probably the largest Muslim caliphate
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  in history.
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  It lasted a little less than a hundred years, but it was centered into Damascus.
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  And as David Worms says, now, Sunni Islam has their geopolitical and religious capital
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  under their control for the first time in over a thousand years.
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  This is significant geopolitically and significant, prophetically.
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  He currently has a very active, very robust, very active defense industry, drones, unmanned
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  flights.
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  They're doing things that nobody else is doing, defense-wise.
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  They've now announced the project to build drones in all 81 Turkish provinces that there
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  are.
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  And this drone technology, and we can see what's going on with Ukraine, and I think some
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  of the success that Ukraine has had against Russia, I think 97 percent of Russian soldiers
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  in military equipment that's destroyed is now destroyed by first-person drones, little
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  drones.
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  Wow.
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  And this is happening.
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  And this is a big problem right now with, I think Israel will solve it, but right now,
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  Israeli soldiers and people are dying because of these small drones that they put a grenade
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  on.
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  And you can't see them.
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  And then they're using fiber optics.
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  They can fly about six miles with these fiber optic wires.
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  And of course, it leaves a lot of, you can imagine, six miles of fiber optic wire would leave
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  a pile of stuff behind.
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  This is a huge problem.
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  Turkey currently has the largest nuclear power plant in the world under construction on
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  the Mediterranean using Russian technology.
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  Now around May 21st, I attended the Middle East Forum Conference in Washington, DC.
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  These are experts, Daniel Pipes, Dexter Van Zile, all superb knowledgeable people who
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  make understanding what's going on in the Middle East, their life's work.
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  We did a war game.
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  The war game was very interesting.
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  The war game involved Turkey wanting to get nuclear material.
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  So when people in Israel say that Turkey is the next Iran, take them seriously.
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  And this has, as I said, geopolitical, religious, and prophetic overtones.
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  Yes.
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  The Turks drove us crazy in the war game, I would say.
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  They were impossible.
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  It was like dealing with Iran.
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  You can't negotiate with them, right?
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  Right.
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  And you need to remember, too, that we talk about anti-colonialism, all of the Israel's
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  and colonial power taking over that particular country.
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  Until 1453, we had a thing called the Western half of the Roman Empire, the Eastern half,
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  I'm sorry, survived the Western part of the Roman Empire by over a thousand years.
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  Western part of the Roman Empire fell.
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  The place centered in Constantinople lasted another thousand years.
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  But then the Anatol of Peninsula where Turkey is located, very strategically, geographically
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  important thing.
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  They were invaded by Turks from Central Asia.
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  And so there's a lot of ethnic tension there, but the Turkey tribe, the Turkmen tribe,
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  is rising.
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  And when you look at some of our Bible prophecy colleagues, they will use maps, and they
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  will show Megaw going up into Central Asia into what we call the Stan republics.
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  Stan, Kurdistan, those things.
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  Their Turkish orientation, and Erdogan was just there recently.
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  The children which any, he's the father of us Turks, there's a very ethnic tribal religious
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  component to this, they're all Muslims.
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  And now they have a thing in the Turkish textbooks, they're changing the maps.
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  By the way, if you watch Turkish guys on TV in the government and that type of thing,
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  everybody's got a map.
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  I mean, it's really kind of comical.
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  But you ask them a question, they pull out a map because they're redrawing the map.
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  And so what they're doing is now the Central Asia used to be what they called those Stan
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  republics in Turkish textbooks.
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  Nearly a year and a half ago, those textbooks were all changed to refer to Turkistan.
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  And now we have this thing called the organization of Turkey steaks.
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  There was just a big meaning Erdogan was at it.
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  It took place in Kazakhstan.
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  Now why is that relevant?
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  Turkey is becoming a nuclear problem.
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  It will become a nuclear problem.
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  Turkey is the next Iran.
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  Erdogan was just in Kazakhstan and guess what?
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  Kazakhstan produces 40% of the world's uranium.
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  Wow.
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  And we have a big problem.
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  And so I think the thing in the Middle East is difficult to figure out.
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  It's incredibly complex.
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  This war game exercise only reaffirmed that.
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  They need Israel needs to be given the ability to finish the job on three fronts.
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  Gaza, Hezbollah and Lebanon and Iran.
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  And then they need to push all of their resources to getting ready for the Turks.
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  We don't hear about it yet.
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  Almost everybody in Israel that's in the security services is talking about it.
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  It doesn't get a lot of publicity.
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  Erdogan is trying to redo the map.
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  And so when you look at his equal 30, it says, I will draw you back.
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  The application is you were here and you left.
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  Well, the Turks ruled Jerusalem for 400 years from 1519 to 1917 to 1917.
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  When the British kind of booted them out.
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  But they're planning on coming back.
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  They think that whole area is theirs.
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  And I can take you to friends that I know in Jerusalem.
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  Turkey's tourists and people come.
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  And sometimes look on a tour or something in the old city.
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  And then the people will come back and say, by the way, we're coming back to take back what's ours.
• 28:27
  Wow.
• 28:28
  All right, brother.
• 28:30
  Crazy times to be continued.
• 28:33
  You know, don't just follow with the news reports, but keep your eye on Turkey.
• 28:36
  We're going to watch for some of these things.
• 28:38
  John, thank you so much for all you do.
• 28:40
  We appreciate your time.
• 28:41
  Thank you, David.
• 28:43
  God bless you, friends.
• 28:44
  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.