Latest / Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast / 🌃  ​Next Gen NYC Finale Pop-Ups, Wharf Kiss, Shai Grit + 9/11 Reflections
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama, darling. Drama, darling. Drama, darling.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Hey, everybody. Welcome back in darlings, as the neon sign says.
- 0:26Speaker 2: graciously donated by Amy Powers to the Cheetah Room. Angela
- 0:32Speaker 2: Quintana is here. Welcome in, Angela.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Thank you for having me back.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Oh, my God. So great to see you. And today
- 0:41Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Next Gen, the show that
- 0:46Speaker 2: is taking all of us by storm. But before we
- 0:50Speaker 2: get into that, of course, we need to acknowledge that
- 0:52Speaker 2: today is 9-11. Yes. And it has been 25 years,
- 0:56Speaker 2: which Angela and I were discussing before we popped on here.
- 0:59Speaker 2: And I can't believe it's been 25 years already. Always
- 1:02Speaker 2: thinking of 9-11 in the back of our heads. It's
- 1:04Speaker 2: always on the back burner. And those of you who
- 1:07Speaker 2: lost someone or know someone that lost someone, our hearts
- 1:11Speaker 2: are always with you. And thank you to all the
- 1:13Speaker 2: first responders. I mean, one of the things that came
- 1:16Speaker 2: out of that was just full acknowledgement of our first responders,
- 1:19Speaker 2: wasn't it, Angela?
- 1:21Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Oh my God. It was just such
- 1:24Speaker 3: a mixed bag of a day because you got to
- 1:27Speaker 3: see the worst of humanity, but also the best of humanity.
- 1:31Speaker 3: And it was literally the whole, like first responders from
- 1:38Speaker 3: everywhere came to New York and were like, where do
- 1:43Speaker 3: you need us? What do you need us to do?
- 1:46Speaker 2: So I'm sure everybody remembers where they were when the
- 1:49Speaker 2: planes hit the towers. Where were you, Angela?
- 1:52Speaker 3: Well, I was working at a salon. So I had
- 1:58Speaker 3: my Chicago. My days off were Monday and Tuesday. And
- 2:06Speaker 3: so my boyfriend at the time was a bartender. So
- 2:08Speaker 3: we had gone out late that Monday night and we
- 2:12Speaker 3: had slept in. late on to like, I woke up
- 2:15Speaker 3: maybe around like 10. And I was like, I need
- 2:17Speaker 3: to go do run errands. So I was at his
- 2:19Speaker 3: house apartment, I woke up, I didn't want to wake
- 2:22Speaker 3: him up. So I didn't turn anything on or anything.
- 2:24Speaker 3: I got ready, got in my car, turned on the
- 2:27Speaker 3: radio to my normal music station. And it was like, news.
- 2:32Speaker 3: And I didn't really hear it at first. So I
- 2:34Speaker 3: was like, I want music. And every station was like news.
- 2:38Speaker 3: And I was like, Oh, wow, what is happening? Excuse me.
- 2:42Speaker 3: And Then I started listening and I was like, whoa, whoa, wait, what? And,
- 2:47Speaker 3: you know, it had been two hours since this happened.
- 2:51Speaker 3: So I was hearing it for the first time. So
- 2:53Speaker 3: I called my best friend and I was like, oh,
- 2:56Speaker 3: my God, Jodi. Oh, my God. Did you hear what
- 2:58Speaker 3: happened in New York? just like a best friend she
- 3:00Speaker 3: was like are you just now hearing about.
- 3:02Speaker 2: This well you know everybody's got different schedules I'm sure
- 3:08Speaker 2: I know but.
- 3:09Speaker 3: She was like and I remember her she was like
- 3:11Speaker 3: listen I was like I just heard I haven't seen
- 3:14Speaker 3: anything whatever and she was like okay well when you
- 3:16Speaker 3: go back and you get to a tv if you
- 3:20Speaker 3: need to call and talk to me obviously like call
- 3:23Speaker 3: and talk to me and I remember kind of being
- 3:25Speaker 3: like she's being kind of dramatic And then you didn't
- 3:29Speaker 3: know how saw the footage and I, we were, I mean,
- 3:33Speaker 3: glued to the TV for the rest of the day.
- 3:35Speaker 2: It's yeah.
- 3:37Speaker 3: No, no one. Where were you?
- 3:39Speaker 2: We'll never forget.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Truly.
- 3:42Speaker 2: Um, I was in Detroit. I was working at J
- 3:45Speaker 2: Walter Thompson advertising agency, downtown Detroit in a high rise, uh,
- 3:51Speaker 2: And I was at work.
- 3:53Speaker 3: And a high rise. Yeah.
- 3:55Speaker 2: So they actually let people go that day. I bet.
- 4:02Speaker 2: But yeah, I was sitting at my desk. Because I
- 4:05Speaker 2: think it was like 8.58 or something when the first
- 4:10Speaker 2: plane hit. But I was sitting there just starting my day.
- 4:14Speaker 2: And there was an editing room. where they have TVs on,
- 4:19Speaker 2: you know, all the time. So we heard very quickly
- 4:23Speaker 2: what was going on. And then everybody just like ran
- 4:26Speaker 2: into that room and we're watching this TV. It was
- 4:32Speaker 2: devastating to see. And I was like looking, going, is
- 4:36Speaker 2: this actually happening? It was one of those situations where
- 4:38Speaker 2: you go, is this a dream? You know, is this
- 4:42Speaker 2: actually a dream? I've got to be dreaming. So And
- 4:47Speaker 2: then everybody started to panic a little bit because then
- 4:50Speaker 2: the news about like everybody in all big cities, like
- 4:53Speaker 2: be careful if you're in a big building and all
- 4:55Speaker 2: this stuff. So, you know, we had an announcement or,
- 4:58Speaker 2: you know, a company-wide email went out saying, if you
- 5:02Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable, you can leave. And pretty much everybody did.
- 5:07Speaker 2: I mean, no one wanted to stay. So I was
- 5:10Speaker 2: in the building One World Tower, which is on Woodward Street.
- 5:15Speaker 2: And it is one of the tallest buildings in Detroit.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Beautiful building. Historic. Amazing. And I was on the 13th floor.
- 5:24Speaker 2: But lucky 13, right?
- 5:25Speaker 3: I mean, the name of the building, the fact that
- 5:28Speaker 3: it's the tallest. Like, that's scary in a moment like that.
- 5:31Speaker 3: You don't know because Detroit is a major city. It is. Yeah.
- 5:36Speaker 3: We had no idea. Yeah. if anything else was planned. Right.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. And there was. And obviously, we had
- 5:43Speaker 2: the whole Pentagon.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:47Speaker 2: So awful. So that being said, cut to today. And
- 5:54Speaker 2: at my daughter's school, they have this really amazing tribute
- 5:59Speaker 2: to today. It's called Patriot's Day. And they ask all
- 6:05Speaker 2: the families to submit a picture of their loved ones
- 6:08Speaker 2: who are first responders. And we submitted a picture of
- 6:13Speaker 2: my sister-in-law who's a nurse.
- 6:17Speaker 3: So, um, I love that.
- 6:19Speaker 2: They have a whole banner, huge banner up in the
- 6:22Speaker 2: halls of all the different families and pictures and honoring them,
- 6:26Speaker 2: which is such a beautiful thing. I thought it was
- 6:28Speaker 2: really special.
- 6:29Speaker 3: I love that. I love that. And it kind of,
- 6:32Speaker 3: isn't it? It kind of, uh, like shows we like
- 6:36Speaker 3: everybody knows a first responder like everybody we all know
- 6:41Speaker 3: a nurse a firefighter everybody yes uh emt uh you
- 6:45Speaker 3: know like someone who's in the military someone yes everybody
- 6:49Speaker 3: yeah We all know at least one of those selfless people.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I know.
- 6:56Speaker 2: It's truly selfless. And I also really like that they
- 7:01Speaker 2: acknowledge it and they have it up in a way
- 7:04Speaker 2: that gets kids eyes on that. And then they can
- 7:08Speaker 2: associate it with something that's heroic.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:12Speaker 2: So then they can put the two pieces together as
- 7:15Speaker 2: they get older and understand what that actually means. Yeah. I,
- 7:21Speaker 2: you know, I've never shared what happened with Maddie because
- 7:24Speaker 2: I feel like she's too young.
- 7:26Speaker 3: I was just going to ask if she's ever asked
- 7:28Speaker 3: you about it.
- 7:31Speaker 2: No, but I'm curious if she's going to talk about
- 7:34Speaker 2: it today because I wonder what they're going to say
- 7:37Speaker 2: at school. You know, they are going to acknowledge that
- 7:38Speaker 2: it's Patriots Day and they probably will say we're honoring 9-11.
- 7:42Speaker 2: So I'm curious. Yes. And I'm not prepared, to be
- 7:47Speaker 2: honest with you. Because here's the thing, you know, with children, obviously,
- 7:50Speaker 2: it's like they're going to go to bed at night
- 7:52Speaker 2: thinking that a plane is going to come and crash
- 7:55Speaker 2: into their house.
- 7:56Speaker 3: Yes.
- 7:57Speaker 2: A lot of kids, you know, and my daughter is,
- 7:59Speaker 2: you know, already wrought with anxiety. You know, she just
- 8:03Speaker 2: is she that she just buzzes like she's very high
- 8:06Speaker 2: buzzing personality.
- 8:07Speaker 3: I feel like you can like almost let her guide
- 8:11Speaker 3: you to what she wants or needs to hear. Like,
- 8:16Speaker 3: I think you're going to do a great job, whatever,
- 8:18Speaker 3: whatever she asks, whatever. And maybe nothing, you know, maybe
- 8:21Speaker 3: she won't want to talk about it at all.
- 8:24Speaker 2: But she might not. But I might say if she
- 8:27Speaker 2: doesn't bring it up, I think I will say, you know,
- 8:30Speaker 2: maybe around dinnertime, maybe I'll just be like, let's just
- 8:33Speaker 2: say a quick prayer and be thankful for all of
- 8:36Speaker 2: our troops and our first responders and God rest their souls,
- 8:42Speaker 2: all the people who lost their lives on September 11th.
- 8:46Speaker 2: And that I don't want to say terror attack, because
- 8:49Speaker 2: That's a terrifying word to say.
- 8:51Speaker 3: I don't think you have to. Yeah. Yeah.
- 8:56Speaker 2: It's tough. You know, so many things that come upon
- 8:59Speaker 2: you as you're a parent, you're like, oh, I wasn't
- 9:02Speaker 2: expecting that. And yet it's so obvious. It's like, yeah,
- 9:04Speaker 2: why wouldn't you like talk about 9-11, you idiot? Because
- 9:08Speaker 2: you kind of ignore it when they're young. And so
- 9:10Speaker 2: now she's nine. So it's like, okay, now we got
- 9:12Speaker 2: to get down to brass tacks with things. So anyway, darlings,
- 9:17Speaker 2: drop your comments. If you got some advice, I mean,
- 9:19Speaker 2: I'd appreciate it.
- 9:20Speaker 3: You're a great mama. You're going to do a good job.
- 9:22Speaker 2: Thank you, Angela. It's not all next gen NYC, but
- 9:28Speaker 2: let's lighten our load.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Yes.
- 9:32Speaker 2: And we'll talk about next gen NYC.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Let's do it.
- 9:35Speaker 2: This was the finale episode. And I am so glad
- 9:39Speaker 2: that they're having a reunion because, you know, you never
- 9:42Speaker 2: know with these shows, right?
- 9:44Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a reunion for this.
- 9:48Speaker 2: This cliffhanger, I mean, the way that, can we just
- 9:51Speaker 2: jump into this moment between Charlie and Ariana? I said
- 9:57Speaker 2: Ariana weird. I'm like, Ariana?
- 9:58Speaker 3: Ariana. Shocked. Shocked. Okay.
- 10:04Speaker 2: So we kind of saw the previews. We kind of
- 10:06Speaker 2: heard a little bit about it, but that really was like,
- 10:10Speaker 2: you know, hang back the text, hang back so we
- 10:14Speaker 2: can yap or whatever it was. He said, yeah, the group,
- 10:19Speaker 2: goes and starts walking to the next destination.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Cowgirl Seahorse.
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
- 10:26Speaker 3: They showed that so many times.
- 10:28Speaker 2: And they showed it the best name.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Yes, but also like, God, what did this owner do?
- 10:33Speaker 3: Who does this owner know?
- 10:36Speaker 2: Who is he blowing for jazz tickets? That's a Salt
- 10:38Speaker 2: Lake City reference. In case Angela doesn't know. But yeah,
- 10:43Speaker 2: the Cowgirl Seahorse, one of my favorite bars in New
- 10:46Speaker 2: York City.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Love it. They have water toys there.
- 10:50Speaker 2: So, yeah, then they all start walking and Ariana starts
- 10:54Speaker 2: heading back across this what looks like, I mean, it
- 10:57Speaker 2: looks like a rom-com, right? This was a rom-com moment.
- 11:01Speaker 3: It 100% was.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Walking back across this open space.
- 11:06Speaker 3: Take the camera around him the whole time. Like, I
- 11:09Speaker 3: don't know. I just, I don't want to set boundaries.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Sweeping music. Yeah.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:16Speaker 2: And then he just goes for it.
- 11:20Speaker 3: Love.
- 11:20Speaker 2: I loved, I loved it.
- 11:21Speaker 3: I loved it.
- 11:22Speaker 2: I'm not going to lie.
- 11:23Speaker 3: I loved it.
- 11:24Speaker 2: I actually gasped.
- 11:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Yes.
- 11:27Speaker 3: I did too. Oh my God.
- 11:30Speaker 2: I was like, well, well, Charlie and Ariana just being like,
- 11:36Speaker 2: I'm taking these boundaries down. What are you going to
- 11:39Speaker 2: do about it in this open, where even were they?
- 11:43Speaker 2: In the village? Like in the meat pack? I have
- 11:45Speaker 2: no clue where they were. It was open.
- 11:48Speaker 3: A wharf? A wharf?
- 11:52Speaker 2: A wharf.
- 11:55Speaker 1: Wharf, wharf.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Wharf, a wharf.
- 11:58Speaker 2: Get your wharf off the wharf. Right now, get your
- 12:02Speaker 2: wharf off the wharf.
- 12:03Speaker 3: I love pronouncing the wharf.
- 12:06Speaker 2: I've never heard it said that way. Thank you, Angela.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Although I will say I did appreciate that Ariana said
- 12:15Speaker 3: to Liam and was honest with him and was like,
- 12:17Speaker 3: I don't think I'm where you are right now. Like,
- 12:21Speaker 3: I'm not where you need me to be for this relationship.
- 12:25Speaker 3: I thought that was at least.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Well, it was a foreshadowing too.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Oh, sure was.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Just so you know. I I'm gonna be stepping out
- 12:34Speaker 2: over to charlie for a minute and see what's what
- 12:36Speaker 2: over there So I just need to give you a
- 12:38Speaker 2: heads up on you know Where i'm not at with you,
- 12:43Speaker 2: which gives me a little bit of time About five
- 12:47Speaker 2: minutes of leeway to say I said something. No, I
- 12:50Speaker 2: played those games. Trust me I'm, like ariana. I got
- 12:53Speaker 2: your number my friend. I played it all through high
- 12:54Speaker 2: school trust and believe um, so, you know get it
- 12:58Speaker 2: but like I did feel so bad for Liam the
- 13:02Speaker 2: entire time. He looked pale and gaunt in the face, heartbroken.
- 13:08Speaker 2: He had to schlep his bones from place to place,
- 13:11Speaker 2: looking like the fool, you know, and.
- 13:14Speaker 3: After getting hit in the face with a lemon.
- 13:17Speaker 2: That was absolutely uncalled for. This guy was humiliated from
- 13:23Speaker 2: beginning to end of this episode. And he took it
- 13:27Speaker 2: on the chin pretty good. That's the hockey player in him.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Did you see how well he took that lemon to
- 13:32Speaker 2: the face? I was like, damn.
- 13:34Speaker 3: First of all, his face. Amazing aim by his friend.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Amazing reaction by him. I was just like, whoa. The
- 13:44Speaker 3: slow motion was like so....
- 13:50Speaker 2: That's a guy who's taken several pucks to the face,
- 13:53Speaker 2: you know, because all he did was flinch. He did one, one,
- 13:57Speaker 2: one eye closed. If that were me, Angela, and you
- 14:01Speaker 2: threw a lemon at my face, it would look like this.
- 14:06Speaker 2: And then it would have been sorry. Everything's fine.
- 14:10Speaker 3: And if I had thrown that lemon, I would be like,
- 14:13Speaker 3: get out of here. Oh my God. I don't want to.
- 14:15Speaker 3: She's going to be so mad at me. Like who
- 14:17Speaker 3: does that?
- 14:18Speaker 2: Who does that? I don't know if he meant to
- 14:22Speaker 2: hit him in the face. I will say that. I
- 14:25Speaker 2: hope he didn't mean to hit him in the face.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Do you think he did? If he did, that's just cruel.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I think he meant to hit him somewhere in the head.
- 14:31Speaker 2: But like in the head?
- 14:32Speaker 3: Really? Or on his person, let's say. He definitely meant
- 14:36Speaker 3: to hit him somehow.
- 14:37Speaker 2: If he hit him on the shoulder or the chest,
- 14:40Speaker 2: I would have been like, okay. But a headshot is
- 14:44Speaker 2: absolutely too far and humiliating. And the friend stuck to it.
- 14:49Speaker 2: He 10 toes down. He's like, what do you mean?
- 14:52Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 14:53Speaker 2: What am I doing?
- 14:54Speaker 3: What are you doing?
- 14:55Speaker 2: It's like, I didn't tell you to hit my face
- 14:59Speaker 2: with a piece of fruit when I'm talking to Ariana. Citrus.
- 15:05Speaker 3: But also, I know he was like, if you see
- 15:08Speaker 3: me hovering. And granted, we didn't see how long they
- 15:12Speaker 3: were talking or whatever. But I was like, he's not
- 15:15Speaker 3: looking desperate right now. I think they're just having a conversation.
- 15:19Speaker 3: I didn't think it was necessary.
- 15:20Speaker 1: No.
- 15:20Speaker 3: But again, we don't know what transpired before. We don't
- 15:26Speaker 3: know how long they were talking. Maybe his friend was like,
- 15:28Speaker 3: oh my God, he's been talking to her for way
- 15:30Speaker 3: too long. I don't know.
- 15:31Speaker 2: But it was a necessary moment. It was a very
- 15:37Speaker 2: crucial moment. for them to have that so that Ariana
- 15:40Speaker 2: could lay the foundation of just so you know tonight
- 15:44Speaker 2: I'm gonna be macking on this dude macking by the
- 15:48Speaker 2: way is a word that Shia used 70s I'm like
- 15:52Speaker 2: 70s I don't even know when that started but I'm
- 15:56Speaker 2: pretty sure it started like when I was in like
- 15:59Speaker 2: it sounds like high school college 90s. I'm going to
- 16:03Speaker 2: mute you for a second because it's the beeper. Yesterday,
- 16:05Speaker 2: it was the leaf blower for me. Today, we're picking
- 16:09Speaker 2: up the trash by the wharf.
- 16:11Speaker 3: By the wharf.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Hey, Trish, take your trash and bring it down by
- 16:17Speaker 2: the wharf with your whore.
- 16:20Speaker 3: And see if you can see Ariana and Charlie.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Okay. So, we're back.
- 16:27Speaker 3: I'll mute it because I might come back down with
- 16:30Speaker 3: the garbage so.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Right they took the garbage out they're gonna have to
- 16:35Speaker 2: dump it they're gonna need to bring it back they're
- 16:38Speaker 2: bringing the bin back.
- 16:39Speaker 3: They're bringing the bin back i'll mute i'll mute me
- 16:41Speaker 3: and then unmute you're.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Gonna be a mutiny there's gonna be a mutiny on
- 16:45Speaker 2: the wall i'm.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Gonna mute a mutiny myself okay mutiny on the wolf
- 16:51Speaker 3: so liam was a cuckold in this situation when they
- 16:55Speaker 3: walked into that bar i'm sorry i should call it
- 16:57Speaker 3: what it is the cowgirl seahorse And they walked in
- 17:03Speaker 3: and he's just looking so down.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Ariana's there and he just like goes and takes her fries,
- 17:10Speaker 2: snatches her fries and doesn't.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Even look at her.
- 17:15Speaker 2: That was an interesting move. Very pee on the tree. Very,
- 17:22Speaker 2: very like my territory. I'll take what I want when
- 17:26Speaker 2: I want it. Fuck you.
- 17:28Speaker 3: But also, yes, that's what it was. Fuck you. I
- 17:32Speaker 3: want you to know that I'm pissed. I want you
- 17:35Speaker 3: to know that I'm not stupid. And I also want
- 17:39Speaker 3: you to know that I know you're sitting there and
- 17:42Speaker 3: I'm not going to acknowledge you. But I am going
- 17:45Speaker 3: to eat your fries.
- 17:47Speaker 2: And by the way, did they look like sweet potato
- 17:49Speaker 2: fries to you?
- 17:51Speaker 3: I didn't even look that close. I don't think so.
- 17:53Speaker 2: I think I'm getting it confused with steak fries. Oh,
- 17:58Speaker 2: I know. Below Deck Med, when they went out to dinner,
- 18:01Speaker 2: they did some real close-up shots of that food, which
- 18:04Speaker 2: they don't normally do. And they had a gorgeous steak
- 18:08Speaker 2: with sweet potato fries. And I was like, thank you
- 18:10Speaker 2: for that close-up. It deserved it. So I'm getting it
- 18:13Speaker 2: confused with that. I love a sweet potato fry. Also,
- 18:18Speaker 2: we were talking about sweet potato gnocchi yesterday.
- 18:21Speaker 3: That's right.
- 18:21Speaker 2: That you've made before.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Okay. Getting back to Liam walking in. Taking those fries.
- 18:28Speaker 2: And Ariana is just coming in there and just telling
- 18:32Speaker 2: the world what just happened. And Liam is sitting right there.
- 18:37Speaker 2: I thought this gal is bold. She's bold.
- 18:43Speaker 3: She's 24.
- 18:44Speaker 2: She's 24 bold.
- 18:46Speaker 3: She's 24. She got out of how long were she
- 18:50Speaker 3: and Hudson together? Like nine years?
- 18:52Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 18:53Speaker 3: I mean, live your best life, girl. Like, you do
- 18:56Speaker 3: not need to be tied down right now to anybody.
- 18:59Speaker 3: Go and have fun. I love Liam. I think they're
- 19:04Speaker 3: very adorable together. But, like, you're 24.
- 19:08Speaker 2: I felt bad for Liam. I did. There's no way
- 19:11Speaker 2: I can't.
- 19:11Speaker 3: I did, too.
- 19:11Speaker 2: Because, like, literally, didn't we saw the flashbacks of Liam
- 19:16Speaker 2: taking her to his Lake George home, and she was like,
- 19:21Speaker 2: you're my dream man. I've manifested this or whatever it
- 19:24Speaker 2: was that she said. And it really, she said some
- 19:28Speaker 2: things that would make you believe that this is heading
- 19:31Speaker 2: in the right direction. And yet she likes to, you know,
- 19:34Speaker 2: get off of the highway, get off the highway. Like
- 19:38Speaker 2: she's in the carpool lane and you, once you're in
- 19:41Speaker 2: the carpool lane, like you can't get off. There's a,
- 19:44Speaker 2: there's a double, there's like a solid line, but she's
- 19:47Speaker 2: crossing that carpool lane and she's like, no, I'm exiting.
- 19:50Speaker 2: because that's i'm exiting i don't know any better because
- 19:53Speaker 2: you're 24 i get it exit but you know it's
- 19:55Speaker 2: not it's not the right thing to do but like
- 19:57Speaker 2: i get it so it is a little misleading he
- 20:01Speaker 2: said i love you oh yeah that's right so he
- 20:04Speaker 2: really messed it up didn't he because he said i
- 20:07Speaker 2: love you Do you think that's what it was? He said,
- 20:10Speaker 2: I love you after the Lake George trip, correct?
- 20:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Okay.
- 20:15Speaker 3: But I also, I'm sure that was like a lot
- 20:17Speaker 3: for her to hear. Like, holy, wow. Like we haven't
- 20:21Speaker 3: been together that long. And you're telling me you love me.
- 20:26Speaker 2: But also she's like, you're my dream man.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Right.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Let's spend Christmas together. It's kind of tough to navigate
- 20:32Speaker 2: through all of this. And look, guys, when they fall
- 20:36Speaker 2: for somebody, I think it's very sweet that he wanted
- 20:40Speaker 2: to express that. Because honestly, sometimes you wish that the
- 20:45Speaker 2: person who you're falling for says something quickly because you're
- 20:49Speaker 2: feeling the same way. Sure. Obviously, every circumstance is different.
- 20:54Speaker 2: And with this, Ariana, because her wings are starting to flap, baby,
- 21:02Speaker 2: that's the worst thing you could say to her. Because
- 21:03Speaker 2: that's going to scare her and freak her out. And
- 21:06Speaker 2: she's not ready for that yet. So, like, it's always
- 21:09Speaker 2: going to be when you don't want to hear it
- 21:12Speaker 2: is when you're going to get it. And when you
- 21:14Speaker 2: do want to hear it, you're not getting it.
- 21:16Speaker 3: Right? Totally. And I'm curious to know, because... when she
- 21:22Speaker 3: was doing her one-on-one, her like little confessional, they were like,
- 21:28Speaker 3: was this the first time you kissed Charlie? So I
- 21:29Speaker 3: wonder if it, if, and she was like, next question.
- 21:35Speaker 2: So they clearly have had.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Kissed before, probably on one of the late nights when
- 21:39Speaker 3: they're like smoking a joint, they're getting giggly and having fun.
- 21:43Speaker 3: And so I wonder if Liam was, said that before
- 21:49Speaker 3: or after like the first make out with Charlie.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Interesting. And that was a, a good, uh, to distinguish
- 21:56Speaker 2: that Charlie didn't know that they were exclusive was interesting.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Cause he's like, well, I mean, that's all you had
- 22:04Speaker 2: to say. I still would have done it, but that's
- 22:07Speaker 2: all you had to, you know?
- 22:08Speaker 3: So I don't know.
- 22:09Speaker 2: I mean, all is fair in love and war. But boy,
- 22:13Speaker 2: these two really made it interesting. And then, not to mention,
- 22:17Speaker 2: you've got Hudson over there, who I really like Hudson, okay?
- 22:20Speaker 2: I'm a Hudson head. I'm sorry.
- 22:21Speaker 3: I am.
- 22:22Speaker 2: I think he should stay on the show. This guy's
- 22:27Speaker 2: coming in. He almost feels like he's someone's dad in
- 22:30Speaker 2: a way. Like, he just brings such a different energy.
- 22:32Speaker 3: He kind of does. You're a HUD head. I like that.
- 22:36Speaker 3: A HUD head.
- 22:37Speaker 1: HUD head.
- 22:38Speaker 3: That's better.
- 22:38Speaker 2: That's so much better, Angela. Thank you for cleaning that up. Yeah, like,
- 22:42Speaker 2: And that scene, he's very mature. Like, right? Is he not?
- 22:48Speaker 3: With Ariana when they had lunch? Yes.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Yes. What are we making of this?
- 22:52Speaker 3: Because I think I feel differently. I feel like he's
- 22:57Speaker 3: a little manipulative with Ariana because they've known each other
- 23:01Speaker 3: for so long. He knows her triggers. He knows how
- 23:07Speaker 3: he knows what to say to her. and what she
- 23:10Speaker 3: wants to hear and likes to hear. I'm not saying like,
- 23:14Speaker 3: I don't think he's a bad person. And I also
- 23:18Speaker 3: kind of feel like, especially at this age with boys,
- 23:24Speaker 3: it's more of like a conquering thing. Like, oh God,
- 23:28Speaker 3: this guy can't win. Like it's not that they don't
- 23:34Speaker 3: genuinely like and love Ariana, but what's even a bigger
- 23:40Speaker 3: emotion for them is like, I won me one woman. Like, yeah,
- 23:45Speaker 3: it's kind of like a pissing contest. Right. And I,
- 23:49Speaker 3: I kind of see it more like that. And Ariana
- 23:54Speaker 3: is just kind of like, it could have been Ava.
- 23:56Speaker 3: I could have been, you know, it could have been
- 23:57Speaker 3: like whatever girl that Hudson had dated and, it's, and
- 24:01Speaker 3: you know, that's your first love. And you, you're, you're
- 24:03Speaker 3: thinking like, there's nobody, nobody is better. And I'm never
- 24:06Speaker 3: going to find anyone else. Like, this is the only
- 24:09Speaker 3: person that understands me. And you're still kind of in
- 24:13Speaker 3: that headspace. But for the most part, I feel like
- 24:16Speaker 3: it's like, haha, I won. I got her.
- 24:19Speaker 2: Hudson?
- 24:20Speaker 3: Who?
- 24:20Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
- 24:21Speaker 3: But like, that's what like they want. They, he wants
- 24:24Speaker 3: to say that he wants to be like, oh, you
- 24:25Speaker 3: thought you had her, but now I got her back.
- 24:27Speaker 3: And yeah, I loved the scene where Hudson and Liam
- 24:32Speaker 3: spoke and he's like, well, looks like our talk didn't
- 24:36Speaker 3: even really mean anything. And what I told you didn't matter.
- 24:40Speaker 3: And he's like, Liam's like, yeah, well, you guys weren't together. So. Yeah.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Yeah. So I just kind of got in there with
- 24:47Speaker 2: my Steve Buscemi charm and my, my, my knit caps
- 24:52Speaker 2: and I took her to my Lake George and here
- 24:55Speaker 2: we are.
- 24:55Speaker 1: So.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Yeah. But like, yeah, it was, That's what I'm saying.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Like he went in there and he talked so, so chill.
- 25:02Speaker 2: He feels like he's got no emotion, but just a
- 25:04Speaker 2: lot of dialogue, which gives me like, are you her
- 25:07Speaker 2: manager or are you her ex-boyfriend? They, the way they
- 25:11Speaker 2: broke up was so nothing. And then they're having this
- 25:16Speaker 2: very mature conversation. Like it's like how you wish that
- 25:22Speaker 2: the people that we see on the Real Housewives or
- 25:24Speaker 2: any other show would act like When they uncouple, it's crazy.
- 25:30Speaker 2: But here's what I want to ask you. When they
- 25:33Speaker 2: were at that lunch with, first of all, sidebar, were
- 25:37Speaker 2: they at a fucking dog cafe? Why were there eight
- 25:39Speaker 2: dogs running around in that room?
- 25:41Speaker 3: At first, I was like, Ariana, keep your dogs next
- 25:45Speaker 3: to you. What are you doing?
- 25:47Speaker 2: Those were just her dogs.
- 25:49Speaker 3: No, she just had her two dogs, her two black dogs.
- 25:51Speaker 3: And then I saw another little brown and white dog,
- 25:54Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, so this must be a
- 25:57Speaker 3: place where you can bring your dogs and just let
- 25:59Speaker 3: them run around.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Can we have, I mean, like, did they put up
- 26:05Speaker 2: Cowgirl Seahorse or Seahorse Cowgirl Bar.
- 26:07Speaker 3: On the top?
- 26:08Speaker 2: Like, could we not have gotten the name of that place?
- 26:11Speaker 2: Because it was very confusing.
- 26:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Okay, thank you.
- 26:15Speaker 3: And when, because when she brought her dogs in and
- 26:18Speaker 3: they started barking and they were so excited to see Hudson,
- 26:21Speaker 3: which I thought was actually adorable.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
- 26:24Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I feel like people are going
- 26:26Speaker 3: to be annoyed. Like, what? Yeah. Shut up. But then
- 26:30Speaker 3: I saw there was a person in the background that
- 26:32Speaker 3: was like. And I was like, oh, so this must
- 26:37Speaker 3: be like a dog friendly place. Because in New York,
- 26:40Speaker 3: you'd be like, shut that fucking dog up.
- 26:43Speaker 2: This is a fucking dog cafe? Does this look like
- 26:45Speaker 2: a fucking dog cafe? Huh? This is a fucking Seahorse cowgirl.
- 26:48Speaker 2: All right. Get your dogs out of here. Wait, do
- 26:53Speaker 2: the lady in the background again. I want to see
- 26:58Speaker 2: the reaction, those of you watching. Here is Angela. Angela
- 27:01Speaker 2: will be portraying woman in back of dog cafe reacting
- 27:07Speaker 2: to Ariana's dogs entering the cafe and greeting their long
- 27:13Speaker 2: lost kind of dad, Hudson. And action. I'm just going
- 27:18Speaker 2: to keep it going. Is she going to cry? No,
- 27:21Speaker 2: she's released it. Now she's drinking something. Oh, she's getting upset. Oh,
- 27:27Speaker 2: she's listening to their conversation.
- 27:29Speaker 1: You guys.
- 27:30Speaker 2: Oh, she's calling everybody. She's telling everybody. Now she's pissed
- 27:33Speaker 2: at the dogs because she wants to hear what they're saying. Oh,
- 27:36Speaker 2: she just told somebody. Oh, she just kicked somebody. Oh,
- 27:39Speaker 2: my God. She's getting upset.
- 27:40Speaker 3: Yeah. Good job.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Well done.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Well done.
- 27:45Speaker 2: That was so beautiful. Wow.
- 27:49Speaker 3: I'm moved.
- 27:50Speaker 2: I'm moved. She was too. Thank you, Angela, for portraying
- 27:59Speaker 2: woman in back of dog cafe.
- 28:01Speaker 3: I'm going to put that on my resume. Okay.
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- 28:14Speaker 2: her about money. Suddenly, she's asking, can I buy this? Oh,
- 28:18Speaker 2: can you put this in the cart? And how much
- 28:20Speaker 2: does that cost? Well, I'm realizing these little conversations are
- 28:24Speaker 2: actually a really big deal, and I want her to
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- 31:07Speaker 2: full disclosures. Here's the question I wanted to ask you
- 31:14Speaker 2: before we went down that wormhole. What is Ariana talking
- 31:17Speaker 2: about when she's like, I put up with a lot
- 31:18Speaker 2: of your stuff and I forgave you? And like, What
- 31:22Speaker 2: are we talking about here? What are we saying?
- 31:25Speaker 3: I think she meant that they kind of had a
- 31:29Speaker 3: conversation ordeal that when they moved to New York, he
- 31:35Speaker 3: was going to go after his dreams. He was going
- 31:38Speaker 3: to do something. He was going to be motivated. And
- 31:39Speaker 3: he was, you know... And none of that happened. She
- 31:44Speaker 3: was like, you know, you're not doing anything. You're not, like,
- 31:46Speaker 3: going for a job. You're not, like, which we know
- 31:50Speaker 3: he doesn't need a job because he's, like, a trust
- 31:53Speaker 3: fund baby. However. Horf ever. Horf ever.
- 31:56Speaker 2: It's.
- 32:03Speaker 3: It is like, you know, unattractive when someone has no
- 32:07Speaker 3: ambition and she's like hustling and like making moves and
- 32:11Speaker 3: like has a bunch of ideas. You know, they had
- 32:14Speaker 3: their clothing line.
- 32:15Speaker 2: That's right. They wanted to do a clothing line.
- 32:17Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Yeah. And I feel like maybe if. if she didn't
- 32:24Speaker 3: do anything regarding that clothing line, then he wouldn't have
- 32:28Speaker 3: really like taken the lead. You know, it's just, okay. She,
- 32:31Speaker 3: I think she just wanted him to like, come on,
- 32:34Speaker 3: get some steam going, get motivated, go do something like,
- 32:37Speaker 3: what are your dreams? What do you want to do?
- 32:38Speaker 3: And he wasn't really doing it.
- 32:40Speaker 2: And I think, but to this point that you're making
- 32:44Speaker 2: about how he has no get up and go because
- 32:46Speaker 2: he's a trust fund baby, it makes so much sense.
- 32:50Speaker 2: Why not? He, you know, didn't stand up to greet
- 32:53Speaker 2: the dogs when they came in. Why he confronts Liam
- 32:57Speaker 2: the way he did without much emotion and why he
- 33:00Speaker 2: talks like he's a manager. So that makes a lot
- 33:04Speaker 2: of sense with his personality. I'm not going to say
- 33:07Speaker 2: I'm still not a hud head. I am. I like
- 33:09Speaker 2: that energy and I say continue to bring it. And
- 33:13Speaker 2: I'm glad he cut his hair. But so that being said,
- 33:18Speaker 2: That was an interesting moment. And when he was like,
- 33:21Speaker 2: give me your hand. It was kind of like, no, no.
- 33:25Speaker 2: And he's like, come on.
- 33:26Speaker 3: It's like, no.
- 33:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 33:28Speaker 3: But she did.
- 33:30Speaker 2: And it was sweet. I'm not going to lie. Like,
- 33:33Speaker 2: did he make her do it? He should have shut up. Yes,
- 33:35Speaker 2: of course. But like, I kind of liked it. It
- 33:36Speaker 2: just was nice to see that they do have a
- 33:38Speaker 2: real connection because at times.
- 33:40Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 33:41Speaker 2: I have questioned whether she even even cared for him
- 33:44Speaker 2: at all all these years. But she did.
- 33:46Speaker 3: She did.
- 33:46Speaker 2: She did. And you can tell there's a real love there.
- 33:48Speaker 2: And I appreciate that. So let's talk about speaking of
- 33:53Speaker 2: grit and things like that. That scene with Liam and
- 33:57Speaker 2: his mom was very interesting because he's talking about like,
- 34:03Speaker 2: you know, it's hard being a young Steve Buscemi in
- 34:05Speaker 2: the city. And, you know, my film didn't make it
- 34:07Speaker 2: into Sundance. And she's like, well, you know, I mean,
- 34:11Speaker 2: it's a piece of shit. You know, I'm like, what
- 34:13Speaker 2: are you going to do? It's not like Blair Witch.
- 34:15Speaker 3: It's nothing.
- 34:16Speaker 2: You're not reinventing the wheel.
- 34:18Speaker 3: She goes, you're not breaking any molds.
- 34:22Speaker 1: I love it.
- 34:22Speaker 2: I was like, that's having a mom in the industry.
- 34:24Speaker 3: She's right. It was like, you know, it was a
- 34:27Speaker 3: 50-50 shot. And she was like, honey, it was a
- 34:29Speaker 3: one in a million shot.
- 34:30Speaker 2: I know.
- 34:30Speaker 3: It's like, damn. She is stupid. She's giving it to him.
- 34:34Speaker 2: She's giving it to him. She is shoveling some serious
- 34:37Speaker 2: Hollywood truth his way. She's right. Love to hear it.
- 34:41Speaker 2: That lady, put her on camera more. I love when
- 34:43Speaker 2: the parents pop in. Seth, we'll get to later. Okay,
- 34:49Speaker 2: so we find out that she's in the business. She's
- 34:53Speaker 2: an executive at a network that she turned it all
- 34:55Speaker 2: around and his father was in production. So then... Angela,
- 35:01Speaker 2: you sent me this, right? Didn't you send me something
- 35:04Speaker 2: about Nickelodeon? Or did I see that on my own?
- 35:07Speaker 3: You might have seen it on your own. I don't
- 35:08Speaker 3: remember if I sent it or not, but it was
- 35:10Speaker 3: very interesting.
- 35:12Speaker 2: Okay, what?
- 35:12Speaker 3: To me, because she was the president of Nickelodeon.
- 35:17Speaker 2: Okay, right.
- 35:18Speaker 3: During the whole Dan Schneider era. Oh. And so I
- 35:25Speaker 3: have a hard time believing that she didn't know what
- 35:29Speaker 3: was going on with Dan Schneider.
- 35:31Speaker 2: Oh my God.
- 35:33Speaker 3: And what he was doing. And when he was fired
- 35:40Speaker 3: very shortly thereafter, she was fired.
- 35:48Speaker 2: Whoa. Oh my God. Yeah. So it was like blind eye.
- 35:57Speaker 3: I feel like if it wasn't such a controversial topic,
- 36:04Speaker 3: he would have said she was the president of Nickelodeon
- 36:08Speaker 3: because why wouldn't you say that?
- 36:10Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 36:11Speaker 3: We're going to find out anyway.
- 36:13Speaker 2: I thought the controversial thing that you were going to
- 36:16Speaker 2: say was that like, oh, well, that's how he got
- 36:17Speaker 2: to be a child star. But wouldn't that have something
- 36:21Speaker 2: to do with it?
- 36:22Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 36:24Speaker 3: But also, it's so funny because like we're talking about
- 36:27Speaker 3: how Hudson is like, no, like no motivation, no drive.
- 36:31Speaker 3: And then she goes to Liam. He's like, I'm making
- 36:33Speaker 3: a movie. I'm a firefighter. I play hockey. I do this.
- 36:36Speaker 3: I bake. I like it.
- 36:39Speaker 2: He's overcompensating because his mother has been riding his ass.
- 36:43Speaker 3: So like.
- 36:46Speaker 2: He's got to prove himself, you know, like.
- 36:48Speaker 3: You got to grind. Yeah.
- 36:50Speaker 2: You got to grind. You got to grind. You've never
- 36:52Speaker 2: really worked hard for anything. It's just been given to you. So,
- 36:55Speaker 2: you know, you're just going to have to keep pushing.
- 36:57Speaker 3: Okay. Check, please.
- 36:58Speaker 2: I got another business meeting. Let's get the other kid
- 37:00Speaker 2: in here. Well.
- 37:04Speaker 3: So, like.
- 37:05Speaker 2: The Dan Schneider thing is very upsetting, and I did
- 37:08Speaker 2: not expect for you to say that. I think we
- 37:11Speaker 2: all know about that. Horrific. Amanda Bynes, the whole thing.
- 37:15Speaker 2: It's just absolutely so dark. So, so disgusting.
- 37:23Speaker 3: So dark, so disgusting. And unfortunately, it made me look
- 37:26Speaker 3: at her in a different light.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Well, yeah, now I do. Yeah, for sure.
- 37:31Speaker 3: Watching that episode, I was like, oh, my God, she
- 37:33Speaker 3: is hilarious. It's amazing. And then I see the TikTok
- 37:35Speaker 3: and I was like, no, God.
- 37:40Speaker 2: That's really disappointing.
- 37:42Speaker 3: All right.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Great. Well, onwards and upwards. So he's got this dinner
- 37:48Speaker 2: and his mom's just like slamming him. And then he
- 37:50Speaker 2: goes and gets slammed by Ariana, this poor guy. Meanwhile,
- 37:56Speaker 2: Kendall's like in the background going, something's amiss. I don't
- 38:03Speaker 2: like what's going on.
- 38:04Speaker 3: Maybe I should take pointers from Ariana.
- 38:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:07Speaker 3: She's juggling three men. Perhaps I should.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Tell Liam something that I can't find him.
- 38:15Speaker 3: I can't tell who has more charisma, Kendall or Brooks.
- 38:23Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but Brooks is so boring.
- 38:25Speaker 2: No, he is. He's incidentally funny. No, wait, how about
- 38:30Speaker 2: the point where he, he, sorry, but like the way
- 38:37Speaker 2: that the editors are so brilliant on this show. They
- 38:40Speaker 2: have really done something special. This is a different type
- 38:44Speaker 2: of editing. These are people who have nuance, who have
- 38:48Speaker 2: comedy timing, and are not giving us some low-based bullshit
- 38:53Speaker 2: editing like they do on The Real Housewives. That like,
- 38:55Speaker 2: you know, like, Oh, wah, wah, wah. You know, it's
- 38:58Speaker 2: like bullshit editing where it's like, oh, that's hilarious. Every
- 39:01Speaker 2: once in a while they'll do something on Housewives that's like,
- 39:03Speaker 2: that was hilarious. But Next Gen has it in the bag.
- 39:08Speaker 2: They are so tight. And when Brooks was, when they
- 39:12Speaker 2: were on that trip and he was like walking somewhere,
- 39:15Speaker 2: he's a slow moving person, but for some reason he's
- 39:18Speaker 2: got a real pep in his step. But he can't,
- 39:20Speaker 2: his slow moving interior can't keep up with his physical
- 39:25Speaker 2: exterior So he gets a little klutzy and he falls
- 39:28Speaker 2: and trips a lot. I don't know if you've noticed this.
- 39:30Speaker 2: It's like Jen on Below Deck Med with the champagne flutes.
- 39:35Speaker 2: They're constantly falling. So he's going and running around trying
- 39:38Speaker 2: to get upstairs for something. And he trips and like falls.
- 39:41Speaker 2: And as he falls, they throw up the chyron. brooks
- 39:46Speaker 2: marks founder of right when he's like just so randomly
- 39:53Speaker 2: just throw up a chiron if you blinked you missed
- 39:57Speaker 2: it but if you saw it it was the funniest
- 40:00Speaker 2: shit so i love that and he's just yeah i
- 40:06Speaker 2: mean he's like watching paint dry but paint that's kind
- 40:10Speaker 2: of funny and Him being like, so you like the socks?
- 40:17Speaker 3: God, his stupid socks. I mean, those are honestly the
- 40:21Speaker 3: best part of his line.
- 40:23Speaker 2: There you go. Deanna and I talked about that a
- 40:25Speaker 2: couple weeks ago, and I'm glad you're on board. We
- 40:28Speaker 2: feel the same way. The socks are landing. Those tracksuits,
- 40:34Speaker 2: the Abbey Road tracksuits, where they almost got mowed down
- 40:37Speaker 2: by New York City traffic, were QVC. At At best.
- 40:43Speaker 3: At best.
- 40:44Speaker 2: I mean, they wouldn't even, I don't know if they
- 40:46Speaker 2: would even do that on a QVC, but.
- 40:48Speaker 3: No, those were awful. But the socks, go with the socks, baby.
- 40:52Speaker 2: And somebody even mentioned it. Like, they're like, oh, those socks.
- 40:55Speaker 2: So the pop-ups, can we talk about the pop-ups? I
- 40:58Speaker 2: love that the amount of pop-ups we're getting on NextGen
- 41:00Speaker 2: is miraculous.
- 41:03Speaker 3: So great. They couldn't have been more opposite.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Oh my God, yeah.
- 41:10Speaker 3: I'm going to have to say, like, I love Shy.
- 41:14Speaker 3: He is the comedian for me. Like he makes me
- 41:18Speaker 3: laugh when he was standing in the middle of Charlie
- 41:21Speaker 3: and Liam and he was just like.
- 41:24Speaker 2: That was some real reaction.
- 41:26Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about the cereal aisle. Or like with Ava,
- 41:33Speaker 3: when he was like, you would think like, you know,
- 41:35Speaker 3: we made out and I'm like, I would have all
- 41:37Speaker 3: the confidence in the world, but like, I'm still so
- 41:40Speaker 3: nervous around her.
- 41:41Speaker 2: It's so sweet. And his dad is so cute. So cute.
- 41:45Speaker 2: And Ava's like, why am I so like, why are
- 41:48Speaker 2: you so instantly attractive now all of a sudden? He's like,
- 41:52Speaker 2: he doesn't know how to get away with it.
- 41:54Speaker 3: He also was like, I've always been attractive. And I
- 41:57Speaker 3: was like, shy.
- 41:58Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of game. Yeah, he does
- 42:01Speaker 2: have some game because they kissed in the bar.
- 42:04Speaker 3: They came out of the bathroom together.
- 42:07Speaker 2: Oh, that was, and the guy, okay, I'm going to-
- 42:11Speaker 2: I will be, I'm going to portray the guy. I
- 42:14Speaker 2: don't know his name. So it's just going to be guy. Okay.
- 42:17Speaker 3: I think he's part of, what does she call it?
- 42:19Speaker 3: The gay mafia. What does she call it? Oh yeah.
- 42:22Speaker 2: I think it is the gay mafia.
- 42:24Speaker 3: Right.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Darn it.
- 42:27Speaker 3: We'll think of a gay telephone. Okay.
- 42:30Speaker 2: So introduce me. Oh yeah. All right. You introduce me
- 42:34Speaker 2: and I will portray him with them coming out of
- 42:37Speaker 2: the bathroom. Okay. Okay.
- 42:39Speaker 3: Here we have Amy Phillips with gay grapevine friend of
- 42:46Speaker 3: Georgia standing outside the bathroom, not knowing who's inside. Amy,
- 42:54Speaker 3: are you ready? Okay.
- 42:56Speaker 2: They're going to open the door and walk out.
- 42:59Speaker 3: Here they come.
- 43:05Speaker 2: And scene. Thank you.
- 43:07Speaker 3: Let's go inside. So like, but I also, we've all,
- 43:12Speaker 3: especially us girlies that are, when we were in our twenties,
- 43:16Speaker 3: we've all done the, and then you hear the door open.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Yeah. And so here's the cool thing is that we
- 43:25Speaker 2: didn't see them go in there, but someone did. So
- 43:27Speaker 2: the cameraman staked outside there.
- 43:32Speaker 1: And waiting.
- 43:33Speaker 3: Shy's face when he saw the camera was like, he didn't,
- 43:36Speaker 3: he was like, didn't know what to do and ava
- 43:41Speaker 3: was like cool as a cucumber just walking out like
- 43:45Speaker 3: yeah and what.
- 43:47Speaker 2: And i know she was like proud proud of it
- 43:50Speaker 2: also um darlings i'm sorry if you're not watching this
- 43:54Speaker 2: you're missing a lot so if you want to see
- 43:57Speaker 2: this you've got two options you can either just buy
- 44:02Speaker 2: the collection of next gen which i don't even know
- 44:04Speaker 2: if it exists no it does um for a nominal
- 44:08Speaker 2: fee And then you can just like watch or maybe
- 44:14Speaker 2: I'll make this one episode available for purchase just so
- 44:16Speaker 2: you can see these reactions for an even more nominal fee.
- 44:21Speaker 2: Or you can just subscribe to the second tier. Okay.
- 44:25Speaker 2: You want to be a gorgeous darling. You gotta, you
- 44:27Speaker 2: gotta be gorgeous. And that's over on patreon.com slash drama darling.
- 44:33Speaker 2: All right. So getting back to shy, his pop-up, bathroom
- 44:40Speaker 2: walking out what was the other thing i wanted to
- 44:43Speaker 2: say um i don't even know i lost my train
- 44:47Speaker 2: of thought but just proud of him and everyone's impressed
- 44:51Speaker 2: he's so humble.
- 44:52Speaker 3: And when she told her dad oh.
- 44:55Speaker 2: That's what it was the herpes that's what yeah thank
- 44:57Speaker 2: you thank you.
- 44:58Speaker 3: She's like dad it's not really sexy like what do
- 45:04Speaker 3: you just ask if they have herpes.
- 45:08Speaker 2: But then she did in like a statistical way, didn't she?
- 45:11Speaker 2: She's like, my dad said one out of three people.
- 45:14Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. And he's like, well, I don't have herpes.
- 45:18Speaker 2: That's scientific or something. It's a great question.
- 45:22Speaker 3: But when she was like, I told my dad we
- 45:26Speaker 3: kissed and he said one out of three people have herpes.
- 45:28Speaker 3: And he was like, you told, that's cute. You told
- 45:29Speaker 3: your dad.
- 45:30Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. They're very cute. I don't know what's
- 45:33Speaker 2: going to happen there.
- 45:33Speaker 3: It's so cute.
- 45:35Speaker 2: I think they're going to be a fling. I don't
- 45:36Speaker 2: think they'll last.
- 45:37Speaker 3: No, I agree.
- 45:39Speaker 2: It's really fun because I think, and I hate to
- 45:43Speaker 2: say it, but I think that Ava is really going
- 45:45Speaker 2: to up his game with women. 100%. Gals are going
- 45:50Speaker 2: to start coming after him left and right. Not only
- 45:53Speaker 2: because he's just a real cool guy on TV, but
- 45:57Speaker 2: now that you got Ava co-signing, it's kind of like...
- 46:02Speaker 2: pete davidson you know what i'm saying but not do
- 46:04Speaker 2: you know it's like the second right it's like forget
- 46:08Speaker 2: it kim carnell like you know who else is gonna
- 46:10Speaker 2: come out of the woodwork for this guy so he's
- 46:13Speaker 2: the pete davidson of next.
- 46:15Speaker 3: Gen dame dame dash was correct when he was like
- 46:19Speaker 3: you made that boy's life it's like yeah are correct sir.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Yes he is correct he really did The spray paint,
- 46:28Speaker 2: very New York, like the pop-up spray paint. It was
- 46:30Speaker 2: really cool. So many people there. Such a different vibe.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Like you kind of felt like Shai's, his pop-up and
- 46:39Speaker 2: his business is really the grassroots of a startup company.
- 46:45Speaker 2: And he has genuine supporters who love his work that
- 46:49Speaker 2: are showing up for a party, get down and, But
- 46:54Speaker 2: Brooks is more like he has this backing of a
- 46:58Speaker 2: real housewives backing and a brand kind of thing, which
- 47:02Speaker 2: makes it a little bit more sterile and less authentic. Yeah.
- 47:06Speaker 3: It's a little too polished. Yeah.
- 47:08Speaker 2: And you get like, it looked great. I mean, everything
- 47:11Speaker 2: seemed to be going well, but then you kind of
- 47:13Speaker 2: get this sparse feeling of when you watch a housewife
- 47:17Speaker 2: scene and they're at a party and like no one's
- 47:20Speaker 2: really there and That's kind of the feeling you get
- 47:23Speaker 2: with his. You just have the cast. But with Shai's,
- 47:26Speaker 2: it was off the hook. I was very impressed.
- 47:30Speaker 3: It was a moment. It was a party. And didn't
- 47:34Speaker 3: he sell everything sold out on his website or something?
- 47:38Speaker 3: All of his items sold out.
- 47:40Speaker 2: That's amazing. Well, I mean, he can only make so
- 47:44Speaker 2: much at a time, right?
- 47:45Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're all like one-of-a-kind pieces, right?
- 47:48Speaker 2: I would think they'd sell out pretty quickly. Oh, yeah,
- 47:51Speaker 2: I remember seeing that sold out, sold, sold, sold. Yeah,
- 47:54Speaker 2: because I mean, like, yeah, they, you know, he probably
- 47:57Speaker 2: only has like two dozen things on his website.
- 47:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's doing it all himself, right?
- 48:02Speaker 2: I believe so, at least for now. And these pieces
- 48:05Speaker 2: are like $ 300 each. So it's nice to see.
- 48:09Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's putting his blood, sweat, and tears in
- 48:13Speaker 3: all of it.
- 48:13Speaker 2: He's not like a Craig. I was literally going to say,
- 48:20Speaker 2: is it the beginnings of a sewing down south like
- 48:22Speaker 2: Craig's sewing?
- 48:23Speaker 3: What's wrong with my sewing? What's the name of his line?
- 48:28Speaker 3: I forget. Shies?
- 48:29Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 48:29Speaker 3: Oh, no. I don't know. Oh, no. It's like.
- 48:40Speaker 2: Like tattered and worn. Like once again, once again, cool.
- 48:45Speaker 2: Or like golden girls, golden ghouls.
- 48:48Speaker 3: Golden ghouls.
- 48:50Speaker 2: Golden ghouls.
- 48:51Speaker 1: Wharf.
- 48:52Speaker 3: Wharf tease.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Wharf tease. Shy Nola. No, that's a watch. Shy's.
- 49:02Speaker 3: About time. Oh my God.
- 49:05Speaker 2: I was kind of close. I did say time. Didn't I?
- 49:07Speaker 3: Or no, I said once again. No, you didn't.
- 49:09Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what I said.
- 49:11Speaker 3: I mean, about time.
- 49:12Speaker 2: About time. Great.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 49:15Speaker 2: I love it.
- 49:16Speaker 3: Like, I just think he's adorable. He's just such a
- 49:18Speaker 3: little like, boom, boom. like, I don't know how I
- 49:22Speaker 3: got here.
- 49:23Speaker 2: No, that, the face he was making when, I don't
- 49:26Speaker 2: even remember who was talking. Who was even talking?
- 49:28Speaker 3: I think that's when Charlie and Liam were talking. And
- 49:31Speaker 3: that's when he was like, or, I mean, Charlie and Hudson.
- 49:34Speaker 3: I mean, Hudson and Liam. Oh, my God.
- 49:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 49:38Speaker 3: Or maybe not.
- 49:39Speaker 2: No, it was more contentious.
- 49:41Speaker 3: No, it was Charlie.
- 49:44Speaker 2: Charlie and Hud. Damn, damn it.
- 49:48Speaker 3: Whoever it was.
- 49:49Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because here's the thing. He stole the seat.
- 49:51Speaker 2: That's exactly.
- 49:52Speaker 3: He did.
- 49:52Speaker 2: There was, it didn't even matter. It didn't even matter.
- 49:55Speaker 2: It was so intense. And he was like, what do
- 50:00Speaker 2: I do? I'm stuck. I got to go.
- 50:04Speaker 3: And so he's like, Captain Crunch, Golden Grahams. honeycombs. I
- 50:09Speaker 3: just think of the cereal aisle because it makes me happy.
- 50:12Speaker 2: It's like Seinfeld's shelf on a sink. By the way,
- 50:15Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, you probably do, but
- 50:18Speaker 2: the hats off to Curb Your Enthusiasm was amazing. I
- 50:25Speaker 2: was like, these kids like Curb? I mean, I think
- 50:28Speaker 2: it was Charlie that likened himself to Larry David, but
- 50:33Speaker 2: when Riley was like, how was the weekend? Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty.
- 50:38Speaker 3: I loved that. I couldn't believe it. And they all
- 50:42Speaker 3: chimed in.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 50:43Speaker 3: Pretty, pretty, pretty. It was so good. I was like,
- 50:46Speaker 3: these are our people. I also loved when speaking of Riley,
- 50:51Speaker 3: when she texted Ariana about like last night and she's like,
- 50:54Speaker 3: I kissed Charlie and the text immediately came period.
- 50:59Speaker 2: Oh my God. You have got to pay attention to
- 51:01Speaker 2: this show because they are flashing up text threads. Like
- 51:05Speaker 2: no one's business. This is a show for young people.
- 51:08Speaker 3: I am.
- 51:09Speaker 2: Guys, I am doing my best to keep up. I'm
- 51:11Speaker 2: loving it, but I am like, let me put my
- 51:14Speaker 2: readers on because I got to see what these chillins
- 51:16Speaker 2: are saying. You know, I'm trying.
- 51:18Speaker 3: You got to swoop it back. What was that? Swoop
- 51:21Speaker 3: it back.
- 51:24Speaker 2: He just grabbed her and laid a smacker on her.
- 51:27Speaker 2: I mean, it just was like, I feel like I'm
- 51:29Speaker 2: Vicki Gunvalson coming back, like trying to keep up with everybody.
- 51:34Speaker 3: What, what, what, what?
- 51:35Speaker 2: Love the Candy Burris segment of Backstage.
- 51:39Speaker 3: So great. My friend got to go see that play.
- 51:42Speaker 3: She went to see Ann Juliet.
- 51:43Speaker 1: She did.
- 51:44Speaker 3: Oh, wow. And she texted me. She was like, I
- 51:47Speaker 3: just got back from New York. I saw Ann Juliet.
- 51:48Speaker 3: And she was like, Candy Burris is in it. She
- 51:50Speaker 3: had no idea.
- 51:51Speaker 2: Oh, she didn't know when she saw? Oh, my God.
- 51:54Speaker 3: Wow. She said it was really good.
- 51:56Speaker 2: It looks amazing. Eight shows a week, and her voice
- 52:00Speaker 2: is showing it. You can tell she's like... Yeah, this
- 52:02Speaker 2: is my dream, Riley. Come on backstage, see all the stuff.
- 52:08Speaker 3: Riley, did you ever have the bite to be on stage? No,
- 52:13Speaker 3: they called and I hung up. Actually, I didn't even answer.
- 52:18Speaker 2: No, they didn't even get my number.
- 52:20Speaker 3: You know what?
- 52:20Speaker 2: I don't even have a phone. They don't even exist.
- 52:22Speaker 2: She just kept pulling it back and back and back,
- 52:24Speaker 2: which I loved. Oh, man. But her being shocked by
- 52:28Speaker 2: the Todd divorce was wild.
- 52:30Speaker 3: I know.
- 52:32Speaker 2: Sad, really, really sad. I'm talking about that. I mean,
- 52:36Speaker 2: so many layers to this, like a lot happened in
- 52:38Speaker 2: the last couple episodes. And by the way, we didn't
- 52:41Speaker 2: even discuss this. But what dropped yesterday was shocking to
- 52:46Speaker 2: all of us, which was Todd's film about divorce, which
- 52:51Speaker 2: will be in select theaters near you. I am not
- 52:57Speaker 2: here for it, but I'm here for it. Is it
- 52:59Speaker 2: coming to LA?
- 53:00Speaker 3: I mean, right. Guys.
- 53:02Speaker 2: But, you know, I'm like, I guess who can blame him?
- 53:04Speaker 2: He is in production. He does all that stuff, but
- 53:09Speaker 2: I'm also like, oh, how gross is this? How gross
- 53:11Speaker 2: is this? He's taking off his ring in slow motion,
- 53:14Speaker 2: getting into like some hot car, you know, and Ralph
- 53:17Speaker 2: is there? Guys, have you seen this? You've got to
- 53:21Speaker 2: go look at it. Go find it immediately. Yeah. It's gross.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Well, I also just saw a TikTok this morning that
- 53:27Speaker 3: this girl was talking about. She's like, oh my God,
- 53:30Speaker 3: Mama Joyce was right. This was a scheme set up
- 53:33Speaker 3: by Todd, this whole thing, because they had to be
- 53:36Speaker 3: married for 10 years. After they were married for 10 years,
- 53:41Speaker 3: then he would benefit more from a divorce, right? And
- 53:48Speaker 3: she's like, you know, and let's not forget, as soon
- 53:51Speaker 3: as they got married, he was like, let's buy a house.
- 53:54Speaker 3: Let's do this. Let's do restaurants. Let's do this. Just
- 53:56Speaker 3: building up, building up, building up all this stuff. It
- 54:01Speaker 3: was interesting.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Well, you know, Mama Joyce, some say that she really
- 54:06Speaker 2: is the Beverly Hills psychic. You know, he will never
- 54:09Speaker 2: emotionally fulfill you. That's what she's always said.
- 54:12Speaker 1: But.
- 54:14Speaker 3: Yeah, that was bonkers.
- 54:16Speaker 2: Yeah, and for him to... The story there is interesting
- 54:20Speaker 2: because he's alluding to some very dark stuff, which is concerning,
- 54:25Speaker 2: to be throwing into a trailer.
- 54:27Speaker 3: Right.
- 54:28Speaker 2: Like a gun.
- 54:29Speaker 3: Right? I feel like it's kind of like clickbait.
- 54:36Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 54:37Speaker 3: Of course he's going to make it look like that
- 54:38Speaker 3: because that's going to get more eyes on this project
- 54:40Speaker 3: because he knows... the majority of people are like ride
- 54:45Speaker 3: or die candy. Like we knew candy long before we
- 54:48Speaker 3: knew your ass. And I'm talking about no scrubs. That's
- 54:52Speaker 3: how long we've been knowing candy.
- 54:54Speaker 2: I wonder, I can't imagine how candy must be feeling
- 54:57Speaker 2: when this trailer dropped yesterday. I would love to hear
- 55:00Speaker 2: her thoughts on this.
- 55:02Speaker 3: Has she? Yeah. I wonder if she's even going to
- 55:04Speaker 3: address it because she's so like, That's beneath me, babe.
- 55:07Speaker 3: I don't need to address it.
- 55:08Speaker 2: She's so busy. She may not even watch it.
- 55:10Speaker 3: She's booked and busy.
- 55:11Speaker 2: But, like, how do you think, you know, Riley's going
- 55:14Speaker 2: to feel about this? Like, bullshit.
- 55:16Speaker 3: I know.
- 55:16Speaker 2: I know.
- 55:17Speaker 3: And your son is going to see this at some point.
- 55:20Speaker 3: And your daughter that you guys have together. It's just like, Todd, wait.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Yeah. What are you doing? She's not producing a play
- 55:27Speaker 2: on Broadway about you.
- 55:30Speaker 3: Right. It's so, but she could.
- 55:31Speaker 2: She's not even writing a song about you. Yeah, but
- 55:34Speaker 2: she totally could.
- 55:35Speaker 3: All right.
- 55:36Speaker 2: Let's, let's get to a couple of other of these
- 55:38Speaker 2: people here.
- 55:39Speaker 3: I just want to mention really quick. Sorry that when
- 55:43Speaker 3: Gia was walking into her podcast studio. Yeah. It looked
- 55:48Speaker 3: like it was like a, it was like the Jamiroquai
- 55:50Speaker 3: video with their big hat walking down the hall.
- 55:53Speaker 2: It was like the what video?
- 55:55Speaker 3: Jamiroquai. Don't you remember like virtual insanity?
- 55:58Speaker 2: No. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm so sorry.
- 56:01Speaker 3: When you, darlings, I'm sure many of you will remember Jamiroquai,
- 56:07Speaker 3: Virtual Insanity, where he was like, he had, he always
- 56:10Speaker 3: wore the big like fuzzy top, late 90s, early 2000s. Oh, okay.
- 56:15Speaker 2: I was like, whoa, that's iHeart Studios in New York.
- 56:18Speaker 2: That's really impressive. Okay, that's Jamiroquai. Okay, he's got like
- 56:22Speaker 2: a mad hat or hat on.
- 56:23Speaker 3: Fuzzy hat. So she had that hat on. But like
- 56:27Speaker 3: the virtual insanity, it's like, it was like a long,
- 56:30Speaker 3: brightly lit hallway. No way. I was like, oh my God,
- 56:33Speaker 3: she is Jamiroquai. Wow. So cute.
- 56:37Speaker 2: I was Jamiroquai. Was it quiet?
- 56:42Speaker 3: She really did get it honest from Teresa when she
- 56:44Speaker 3: was like, what's that movie Lady in the Train?
- 56:47Speaker 2: That was amazing. And she's right. And she's right. She's
- 56:53Speaker 2: had several moments where she has these discoveries on camera
- 56:57Speaker 2: in her confessional about words or phrases or things or
- 57:01Speaker 2: places that she looks up immediately, which I appreciate because
- 57:05Speaker 2: no housewife is going to do that. They're just going
- 57:06Speaker 2: to leave it out there. She's like, no, I want
- 57:09Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of this. And she looks
- 57:10Speaker 2: up and then she shares what she's learned. And I
- 57:12Speaker 2: really appreciate that. And then the breakdown of her being like,
- 57:16Speaker 2: he's the tramp was amazing.
- 57:19Speaker 3: Yes.
- 57:19Speaker 2: Because she's like, tramp, that doesn't seem very nice. Yes.
- 57:24Speaker 2: And I loved it. I also loved, again, the editors,
- 57:27Speaker 2: the way they're like, okay, so the night after the
- 57:31Speaker 2: pop-up or whatever the hell, the eighth pop-up, We went
- 57:35Speaker 2: to a bar and then they have them in the
- 57:37Speaker 2: drawing and all the little heads are going. And then
- 57:39Speaker 2: we went here and then we went there and then
- 57:41Speaker 2: we went to Charlie's and Liam didn't go. He walked
- 57:43Speaker 2: the dog. So I just love the editing. Let's talk
- 57:47Speaker 2: about Amira and Charlie. They, I'm glad that she set
- 57:52Speaker 2: boundaries there and did it in such a way where
- 57:55Speaker 2: she was like, you know, maybe we can be friends again,
- 57:58Speaker 2: but I can't really pick up where we left off.
- 58:01Speaker 2: And I also thought that he did a, a fine
- 58:04Speaker 2: job at eating shit and apologizing over and over again.
- 58:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Like I, I'm, I was pleasantly surprised
- 58:14Speaker 3: at season two, Charlie versus season one, Charlie. Yeah.
- 58:18Speaker 2: I feel like we're getting to know him a little
- 58:19Speaker 2: bit better because I'm like, how is he friends with
- 58:21Speaker 2: all these people that we, that seems somewhat normal and
- 58:27Speaker 2: friends with like a mirror for a really long time.
- 58:29Speaker 2: So there obviously has to be some sort of, you know,
- 58:32Speaker 2: good character that, inside of him. And, and I think
- 58:35Speaker 2: we saw a little bit about that, right?
- 58:37Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah. Like I, I feel like he's one
- 58:39Speaker 3: of those people that was able to watch the season
- 58:42Speaker 3: and watch himself kind of with a critical eye. Like I,
- 58:47Speaker 3: we didn't see him once smoke a joint when all
- 58:51Speaker 3: he was doing season one was like smoking joint after
- 58:53Speaker 3: joint after joint. And like, it's just, I feel like
- 58:57Speaker 3: he realized kind of what a ding dong he looked
- 59:01Speaker 3: like season one and was, like willing to course correct
- 59:05Speaker 3: and willing to like make improvements in himself.
- 59:10Speaker 2: And maybe that was because he, you know, was roasted
- 59:13Speaker 2: over the coals or raked over the coals. And maybe
- 59:15Speaker 2: it's because he's caught up in some crypto scandal. There
- 59:19Speaker 2: could be many reasons, but it's either here or there. Georgia,
- 59:24Speaker 2: you know, making up a Charlie on this trip. And
- 59:27Speaker 2: I agree. I think Amira was, just roadkill in that situation.
- 59:32Speaker 3: And collateral damage yeah.
- 59:34Speaker 2: And i just feel like georgia you just can't trust
- 59:37Speaker 2: that gal you know she's not washing her hands she's
- 59:42Speaker 2: i do appreciate that she looks to seth as a
- 59:45Speaker 2: spiritual leader that makes me very giggly and i love
- 59:51Speaker 2: their conversations so there's that about georgia but she's quirky
- 59:54Speaker 2: as hell.
- 59:55Speaker 3: She's so quirky. I, I, I, I really appreciate with
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: she rolls with the punches, baby. Like I, I think
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: at that age, if I had to deal with as
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: much like scrutiny and like verbal abuse, kind of that she,
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: I would have crumbled at that age because And she
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: really rolls with the punches. Like, she doesn't take herself
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: too seriously, which I appreciate. I love her sense of style. Like,
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: I think she's super fun style. Yeah. But the way
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: she moved with Amira, I thought was gross.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: Yeah, it was dirty. It was really dirty.
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: It was so dirty.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: She was trying to get back at Charlie. And maybe
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: Amira did seem to think that that was a good thing,
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: that she did ultimately find out that he said this.
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: Yeah, but... but could have done it off camera.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: Like that was, that's, it was really heartbreaking. Yeah. It
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: was not nice.
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: I didn't, I didn't like that at all.
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: No, did not like, and, um, okay. So I think
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: that we've pretty much covered everything. Ariana and Charlie, um,
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: we know that's going to come to an end. We
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: know that he did something spiritually and, you know, got
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: a tattoo of.
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: Like, only God can judge me. Wow.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: I can't wait for this reunion. Okay.
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: I cannot wait.
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: Angela Quintana.
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: That's right.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: Um, Quintana's tiny kitchen.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Quintana's tiny kitchen on Insta and little Mexican girl on
- 1:01:30Speaker 3: Tik TOK.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: Head on over guys. Thank you so much for listening
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: and pleasant day.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: To you all.
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: We love you. Bye, darlings. Bye.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: Drama, darling. Drama, darling.