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- 0:07SPEAKER_04: I am so excited today, Julie.
- 0:10SPEAKER_04: You have no idea of why I'm so excited today.
- 0:13SPEAKER_00: I think I have a little bit of an idea.
- 0:15SPEAKER_04: Do you?
- 0:15SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but something tells me that no one is more excited than Brandon, our writer.
- 0:20SPEAKER_04: You know, they say to never meet your heroes.
- 0:23SPEAKER_04: And today we're putting that to the test because Brandon's hero is here with us today.
- 0:30SPEAKER_04: Before we introduce him, before I say his name, let me just kind of build up to him.
- 0:33SPEAKER_04: This guy is a social media Vegas local icon by far, one of my favorite new accounts that I've been following, courtesy of Brandon.
- 0:42SPEAKER_04: Um, this guy's got balls of steel.
- 0:44SPEAKER_04: And most guys fear or get nervous about going up and talking to a girl or picking up a girl out in public.
- 0:50SPEAKER_04: This guy's got balls, big balls of steel, and God bless him, because it's Monaco 11 with us here on the show.
- 0:56SPEAKER_04: Monaco, thank you.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: Hello.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: Hello, hello.
- 1:00SPEAKER_04: Get that mic a little bit closer to your face.
- 1:01SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, get close.
- 1:02SPEAKER_04: I don't want to miss a word of this.
- 1:03SPEAKER_04: Brandon, how excited are you right now, first of all?
- 1:06SPEAKER_04: Dude, it's like having MJ in the studio.
- 1:08SPEAKER_03: It's like Michael Jordan.
- 1:09SPEAKER_03: This is your Michael Jordan.
- 1:10SPEAKER_03: It is.
- 1:11SPEAKER_03: How long have you been following Monaco?
- 1:13SPEAKER_03: I would say probably for the last three or four months, but he's taken over my algorithm.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: All you get is Monaco.
- 1:20SPEAKER_03: It is.
- 1:20SPEAKER_03: My bad.
- 1:21SPEAKER_04: Don't ever apologize for that, Monaco.
- 1:23SPEAKER_04: We want all, we want all of it.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: Um can I ask a clarifying question?
- 1:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, please.
- 1:27SPEAKER_00: Do you go by Monaco?
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: That's what you want us to call you, correct?
- 1:30SPEAKER_02: Yep, that's my real name.
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: Oh, is it really?
- 1:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:32SPEAKER_00: That's sick.
- 1:33SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: I had no idea it was your real name.
- 1:35SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: I thought it was just a cool like stage name.
- 1:38SPEAKER_04: Fun fact the country of Monaco is actually named after Monaco.
- 1:42SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:42SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:43SPEAKER_00: That says something about his age.
- 1:45SPEAKER_04: That just says something about his stature, about his forehead.
- 1:49SPEAKER_04: Um, so Br Brandon, listen, I know you're running the board over there, but if at any time during the show you want to come over and sit next to him and just chat it up, be you're more than welcome to.
- 1:57SPEAKER_04: Oh man, thank you for this opportunity.
- 1:59SPEAKER_02: I'm sitting right here.
- 2:02SPEAKER_04: Um, so Monica, you've been posting your clips of yourself going out in public uh here in the local Vegas scene for how long now, you think?
- 2:11SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, it really started, I would say, about a year ago.
- 2:14SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 2:15SPEAKER_02: The content wasn't always what you're seeing right now.
- 2:17SPEAKER_02: If you scroll to the very beginning of the page, yep, yep.
- 2:21SPEAKER_02: It was just different ideas that I was throwing out.
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: You know, the content really came into play.
- 2:26SPEAKER_02: Um, I was already going out four to five nights a week, and I was just one day I decided to recap one of my nights out, and I noticed that the views went up more than average, and so I took that as kind of a hint.
- 2:39SPEAKER_02: Maybe I should do this a little more.
- 2:40SPEAKER_02: And so it's kind of where the account blossomed to.
- 2:43SPEAKER_04: That's that's so spot on with anything with social media, even with us included.
- 2:46SPEAKER_04: Like, we really didn't find our footing.
- 2:48SPEAKER_04: Uh, we've been doing this for I mean, I think December 24 is our first episode, and pretty consistently since then, but it really wasn't until until like mid-last year where we really found like, okay, we might be on to something here.
- 3:01SPEAKER_04: And that's the same thing with social media.
- 3:02SPEAKER_04: You kind of just try new things, throw it at the wall, and whatever sticks, you know, it works.
- 3:06SPEAKER_04: And you try it, you try it again, do it again.
- 3:08SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:09SPEAKER_04: But um that's fantastic.
- 3:10SPEAKER_04: So that was the deciding factor for you to kind of go out there and post about your your your recap of the night when you're talking to girls.
- 3:20SPEAKER_04: So you go out to where?
- 3:21SPEAKER_04: Do you go on the strip, do you go off the strip, you go downtown?
- 3:24SPEAKER_04: Where what's your what's your scene?
- 3:25SPEAKER_02: So mainly it's actually been off the strip.
- 3:28SPEAKER_02: All the clips that you see, um, it's mainly been off the strip.
- 3:31SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 3:31SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be pivoting to the strip later on, but mainly it has been downtown, clubs like Oddfellows, Disco Pussy, Commonwealth, etc.
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: etc.
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: I would have to say the Durango is my favorite spot right now.
- 3:43SPEAKER_02: I love Durango.
- 3:44SPEAKER_02: Yep, the Durango and the Red Rock.
- 3:46SPEAKER_02: Um why are they your favorite right now?
- 3:49SPEAKER_02: Um the quality of the women.
- 3:51SPEAKER_02: The quality of the women, the quality of the women, they're local.
- 3:54SPEAKER_02: The thing about the strip, I think that's cool, but the only issue is that you're running into a lot of tourists.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: And so there's not going to be a lot of traction there per se.
- 4:02SPEAKER_02: So if you're looking for a one-night stand, I mean, I'm sure you could achieve that.
- 4:07SPEAKER_02: Um, but if you're looking for more retention, something more sustainable, even making a friend, yeah, I like the local places.
- 4:13SPEAKER_04: So that leads me to leads me to the next question.
- 4:15SPEAKER_04: Are you when you're out and about and you're searching, talking to these girls, picking them up, doing what you're doing, are you looking for Mrs.
- 4:20SPEAKER_04: Monaco 11 or are you just looking for a short-term solution for yourself?
- 4:24SPEAKER_04: Or or maybe both.
- 4:25SPEAKER_04: Who knows?
- 4:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, right now, you know, I am looking for, I would guess I would say something more serious.
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: Look at you.
- 4:31SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 4:32SPEAKER_04: Love that.
- 4:33SPEAKER_04: What um what type of demographic do you have on your page?
- 4:36SPEAKER_04: Like a lot of the guys, it seems to be like younger Vegas local guys, uh, maybe not Vegas local, but just younger guys that, you know, are kind of living vicariously through you.
- 4:45SPEAKER_04: Would you agree with that?
- 4:46SPEAKER_02: I would agree.
- 4:47SPEAKER_02: I look at my demographics and it is the age range between I would say 18 to about 35.
- 4:53SPEAKER_02: Um, every now and then I'm getting that 40 plus, 50 plus.
- 4:56SPEAKER_02: Um, I have targeted ads as well from 26 to about 45, which has worked out well too.
- 5:03SPEAKER_02: But that's the age range.
- 5:04SPEAKER_02: I would say about 18 to 35.
- 5:06SPEAKER_04: What's what age range have you had the most success with when it comes to going out and talking to these lovely ladies of the night?
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: Um, younger than 30.
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Ladies of the night means something really different.
- 5:16SPEAKER_04: What does it mean to you, Julie?
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: Ladies of the night would be prostitutes.
- 5:19SPEAKER_04: I was saying fine.
- 5:20SPEAKER_04: And we don't mess with those.
- 5:21SPEAKER_04: We don't mess with those.
- 5:22SPEAKER_04: Monaco 11 goes, he he does not mess with the prostitutes.
- 5:26SPEAKER_04: He goes legit.
- 5:27SPEAKER_04: God bless him.
- 5:28SPEAKER_04: Okay, fine.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: He's got the game.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: Which speaking of, yes, Monaco, I just learned this term the other day.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: I kind of think that it was through you.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: I heard Brandon say it.
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: I am not familiar with the term day game.
- 5:39SPEAKER_04: Day game.
- 5:39SPEAKER_04: Day game is a good idea.
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: This was a recent term that I learned.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: Apparently, at least all straight dudes know what that means.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: I had no idea.
- 5:47SPEAKER_00: Can you please explain the difference to me between day game and night game?
- 5:51SPEAKER_04: Professor Monaco is in the classes in session.
- 5:53SPEAKER_04: Please teach us.
- 5:54SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, absolutely.
- 5:55SPEAKER_02: Let me explain what night game is first.
- 5:57SPEAKER_02: Night game was actually pioneered, I mean, geez, in the forum days of pickup artistry.
- 6:02SPEAKER_02: Um, that's when you go to nightclubs.
- 6:04SPEAKER_02: That's when you go to where people are ready to socialize.
- 6:07SPEAKER_02: Nightclubs, concerts, lounges, etc., etc.
- 6:11SPEAKER_02: Now, because those places are currently closed during the day, and if you're playing the volume game, you have to go somewhere.
- 6:18SPEAKER_02: So day game is essentially approaching women or even for ladies approaching men during the day.
- 6:24SPEAKER_02: Those would be at places like retail stores, convenience shops, etc.
- 6:29SPEAKER_02: etc.
- 6:30SPEAKER_02: Anywhere you would go normally about your day.
- 6:32SPEAKER_02: I love this.
- 6:33SPEAKER_02: Now you know.
- 6:34SPEAKER_02: The more you know.
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: Which one's I mean, I have an assumption, but which one's more difficult, do you think, for people to be good at?
- 6:40SPEAKER_02: Oh, day game, for sure.
- 6:41SPEAKER_02: And the reason why that is, is because most people aren't expected to be approached or to socialize when they're at Target, when they're at the gas station.
- 6:49SPEAKER_02: People are in their habits and people are focused on what they're doing.
- 6:53SPEAKER_02: Whereas when you're going out at night at a club, venue, etc., people are in that social mood.
- 6:59SPEAKER_02: So people are a little bit more willing to be socialized with or approached.
- 7:03SPEAKER_04: Julie, you're married, of course, but you're I'm sure you get approached out and about in public.
- 7:08SPEAKER_04: Is it usually daytime or nighttime you get approached?
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm gonna be honest.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: I think in the past few years, especially since I've been married, whatever that like saying is or what people say that you give off married energy, so you're just not approached as often anymore, that has happened to me.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: People don't come up to me the same way they did when I was like before I was married.
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: But then I would say it was probably even because I was either in college or fresh out of college, and I also worked in a gym setting.
- 7:35SPEAKER_04: So do you feel like you have an RBF now?
- 7:38SPEAKER_00: I think I've always had an RBF.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: I've always Yeah, I know.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm also extremely friendly, which is sometimes giving people the wrong idea.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: So it's if you just see me across the room, I don't look approachable, but I'm I can have a conversation with anybody.
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: Fair.
- 7:54SPEAKER_04: So well, listen, Monaco, I like a challenge.
- 7:56SPEAKER_04: So, in your opinion, if I want to go out and meet somebody new for during the daytime, what's the best hidden gym that I would go to to find uh somebody during the day?
- 8:07SPEAKER_02: I would definitely go to somewhere like the Durango, the Red Rock, Green Valley Resort.
- 8:12SPEAKER_02: Here in Vegas, we have an abundance of options, and I think that we have some of the best places to go to.
- 8:17SPEAKER_02: Um, it's just the logistics of the area that allows you to go out.
- 8:20SPEAKER_02: We don't have the beach, so that's that's a challenge.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: Um you wouldn't pick somebody up at Lake Mead.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
- 8:28unknown: Oh no.
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
- 8:30SPEAKER_02: Maybe a dead body or something.
- 8:34SPEAKER_00: I hope you wouldn't pick it up if you came across one.
- 8:38SPEAKER_04: That's some Ed Gean shit right there.
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: That is, that is some Ed Gean shit.
- 8:42SPEAKER_04: That's some Ed Geed.
- 8:43SPEAKER_04: Um, all right, well, that's fair enough.
- 8:44SPEAKER_04: So definitely no Lake Mead, but Durango, Red Rock, Green Valley.
- 8:47SPEAKER_04: It's good to know.
- 8:48SPEAKER_04: When it comes to picking up these girls and approaching these girls, if somebody were to have like an RBF, the resting bitch face, uh, would that deter you?
- 8:57SPEAKER_04: Or are you still you're still zoned in?
- 8:59SPEAKER_04: That that's not gonna turn you off just yet.
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm still locked in.
- 9:02SPEAKER_02: You're still locked in locked in, baby.
- 9:04SPEAKER_02: He is locked in.
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's more of a like a fun challenge, too.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: No?
- 9:09SPEAKER_02: Sometimes you have to look for certain cues, like if she has a wedding ring on.
- 9:12SPEAKER_02: I mean, I wouldn't even bother.
- 9:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know.
- 9:14SPEAKER_04: That's so funny.
- 9:15SPEAKER_04: Have you lived anywhere else other than Vegas?
- 9:17SPEAKER_02: Um, I went to college.
- 9:17SPEAKER_02: I went to UNR in Reno.
- 9:19SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 9:19SPEAKER_02: So I was there for about seven years, but I've been here for 22 years now.
- 9:23SPEAKER_04: What's the okay, so really, you've really just been in Vegas, but have you have you tried the approach in the dating scene anywhere else?
- 9:31SPEAKER_04: Like at least when you're traveling or anything like that, is it easier elsewhere?
- 9:34SPEAKER_02: Um, I wouldn't say it's necessarily easier.
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: I've I mean I've been across the country, California, Arizona, Florida, et cetera, et cetera.
- 9:41SPEAKER_02: Um, each state does have its own challenges.
- 9:44SPEAKER_02: Each state is a little bit different when it comes to the people and their mindset.
- 9:49SPEAKER_02: But overall, uh, once you have the actual skills and technique, and once you have experience, it's it's not that difficult anymore.
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: But there are some challenging places.
- 9:59SPEAKER_02: For example, I would say like Miami.
- 10:01SPEAKER_02: Miami is a bit more superficial.
- 10:03SPEAKER_02: Um I I don't mean to speak bad upon the demographic out there of women, but you know, when you're surrounded by a lot of money, cars, yachts, etc., they're look looking for a certain type, and maybe they're not looking for intimacy or love.
- 10:19SPEAKER_02: So I think that presents its own challenges.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: What do you think the other than discerning who's a local versus who's a tourist, what do you think the main challenge is in Vegas?
- 10:29SPEAKER_02: The main challenge might be that a lot of pretty women are taken.
- 10:35SPEAKER_02: So a lot of beautiful women, this is for you guys out there, a lot of pretty girls have boyfriends already.
- 10:40SPEAKER_02: So don't let that deter you.
- 10:42SPEAKER_02: Now she knows you.
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: What is that saying?
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: Don't let your boyfriend stop you from finding your husband.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: Have you ever heard that saying before?
- 10:49unknown: What is it?
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: Don't let your boyfriend stop you from finding your husband.
- 10:52SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's not bad.
- 10:53SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't condone cheating, but it is a funny saying.
- 10:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's that's a good saying.
- 10:58SPEAKER_04: I always like the approach of like, not necessarily this is more of a serious matter of like when you get too comfortable with the with your girlfriend or your wife or whoever it is, it's like, you know, uh, date your wife, or fuck.
- 11:09SPEAKER_04: Now now I'm on the spot and I forgot how it went.
- 11:11SPEAKER_04: But it went something along the lines of you know, don't once you get in that comfort zone, don't forget to still keep keep dating each other.
- 11:18SPEAKER_04: Keep dating each other, exactly.
- 11:19SPEAKER_04: I I forgot the word, otherwise somebody else will, or something along those lines.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: But a lot of people fall victim to that too.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: It's like now you've seen them do all the gross things a human can do, and you know when's the last relationship you've been in, Monaco?
- 11:34SPEAKER_02: Um, that was last November.
- 11:37SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 11:37SPEAKER_02: And where'd you meet this fine young lady?
- 11:40SPEAKER_02: So I approached her at the mall.
- 11:41SPEAKER_00: So which mall?
- 11:43SPEAKER_02: Um the Miracle Mile Shops.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: Oh.
- 11:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 11:46SPEAKER_02: Just browsing around.
- 11:47SPEAKER_02: I saw her, I was already shopping for something.
- 11:50SPEAKER_02: Wasn't anticipating on talking to anybody that day or that particular time.
- 11:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:54SPEAKER_02: But I saw her, I had to say something, and then from there, you know, we You hit it off.
- 11:58SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:59SPEAKER_04: What'd you say to her?
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: I say the same thing almost to every girl, so I'll give you guys my pickup line, even though I don't pick up on lines or use pickup lines.
- 12:07SPEAKER_02: Um, hey, I saw you from over there.
- 12:10SPEAKER_02: I thought you were cute.
- 12:11SPEAKER_02: I wanted to come say hi.
- 12:13SPEAKER_04: Damn.
- 12:14SPEAKER_04: Simple.
- 12:15SPEAKER_04: Monaco just made eye contact me with me through that entire pickup line.
- 12:19SPEAKER_04: And let me tell you something, I'm ready to swoon.
- 12:21SPEAKER_04: Are you are you interested?
- 12:24SPEAKER_04: The couch might be big enough.
- 12:27SPEAKER_04: So you only use the same pickup line over and over again?
- 12:30SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
- 12:31SPEAKER_04: I mean, maybe a stick with what works?
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe a compliment too.
- 12:35SPEAKER_02: Like, for example, hey, I like your shoes.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: Something very, very basic.
- 12:38SPEAKER_02: It's not what you're saying, yeah, it's more so of the energy that you're giving.
- 12:43SPEAKER_02: But it's it's it's basic enough to where I could gauge her response to see if she's receptive.
- 12:50SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 12:50SPEAKER_02: Smart, very smart.
- 12:51SPEAKER_04: Have you been to any of the single events that are out here?
- 12:54SPEAKER_04: I have.
- 12:54SPEAKER_04: And what are your thoughts?
- 12:56SPEAKER_04: Um, man, I think they're trash.
- 12:59SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 12:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 13:00SPEAKER_04: Which one which ones have you been to?
- 13:01SPEAKER_02: Oh man, you're putting me on the spot.
- 13:03SPEAKER_02: Yes, I am.
- 13:03SPEAKER_02: That's right.
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: So there's I'll name several.
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: Uh Thursday dating.
- 13:08SPEAKER_02: I don't even like really know that's hosted by people or what.
- 13:12SPEAKER_02: It's good.
- 13:14SPEAKER_02: You can look it up on Instagram and it's like an app, but they're supposed to have a host there to help people mingle.
- 13:21SPEAKER_02: Went to two of those.
- 13:22SPEAKER_02: That was absolutely terrible.
- 13:23SPEAKER_02: People weren't socializing, people weren't ready.
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
- 13:27SPEAKER_02: Um, I've been to this other one, they're pretty popular.
- 13:31SPEAKER_02: Uh, the Vegas Girls Events.
- 13:34SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, yes.
- 13:35SPEAKER_04: That one Vegas Girls events and the uh and Vegas Brunch Boys.
- 13:38SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 13:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 13:39SPEAKER_02: I can appreciate what they do.
- 13:40SPEAKER_02: They have a big turnout.
- 13:42SPEAKER_02: The only issue is though, um, and I've talked to several women there, and they have the same problem as well, is that the men aren't approaching.
- 13:50SPEAKER_02: And so people aren't really there to socialize, or well, they're there to socialize, but they're not talking to each other.
- 13:56SPEAKER_02: And so I think what can really turn one of those events around is having somebody force other people to talk to each other, have an actual host who forces the engagement because you're already there to socialize, so that wouldn't really be too awkward.
- 14:09SPEAKER_00: So oh, sorry.
- 14:11SPEAKER_04: Well, I was gonna say Jimmy Gavigan, the the guy from Vegas French Parks, he's a friend of the show.
- 14:15SPEAKER_04: That's good info.
- 14:15SPEAKER_04: That's see, that's some constructive criticism that everybody needs, even even ourselves.
- 14:20SPEAKER_00: You hear that, Jimmy?
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: Fix it.
- 14:22SPEAKER_04: Jimmy, fix it, Jimmy.
- 14:24SPEAKER_04: Jimmy, fix your shit.
- 14:25SPEAKER_00: Uh, what are your what are your thoughts on like speed dating then, like traditional speed dating?
- 14:29SPEAKER_00: Because you are forced to socialize in that situation.
- 14:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, I don't I'm not a fan of those.
- 14:35SPEAKER_02: I think those aren't very real.
- 14:36SPEAKER_02: I don't really think the interactions are too real.
- 14:39SPEAKER_02: You're not having enough time to really get to know somebody.
- 14:42SPEAKER_02: And to be honest with you, with those speed dating things, I can appreciate that you are forced to talk to somebody, but you're what if you're forced to talk to somebody you're not attracted to initially?
- 14:52SPEAKER_02: So I think it's kind of a waste of time.
- 14:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:54SPEAKER_02: I think that approaching people and still talking face to face to someone that you're attracted to.
- 14:59SPEAKER_02: I think that's the new trend right now.
- 15:01SPEAKER_02: I think that dating apps are going away.
- 15:04SPEAKER_02: Um, but that that's what I think.
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: How do you feel about dating apps?
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: I think they're terrible.
- 15:08SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 15:09SPEAKER_02: I think it was cool back in 2011, 2012 when it was still new.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: Is that eharmony?
- 15:15SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 15:15SPEAKER_02: E-Harmony, J Date, that whole thing, you know.
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: Wow.
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: I was in middle school.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 15:23SPEAKER_04: Away with you.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
- 15:25SPEAKER_04: Listen, when I I was in a relationship with my ex from I don't even know, but it was a long time.
- 15:34SPEAKER_04: And I missed the whole dating app trend for a very long time.
- 15:38SPEAKER_04: And then when we broke up, and I was you know, I feel like I'm a pretty good person to converse with.
- 15:46SPEAKER_04: And that's that's so much, that's like half the battle right there, is to be somewhat attractive and to be able to converse with somebody else.
- 15:53SPEAKER_04: And from there you can do whatever.
- 15:55SPEAKER_04: And when I got on those dating apps, it was it was bad news bears because I was just having way too much fun.
- 16:01SPEAKER_04: And honestly, it it on the selfish side, it did help me get over my ex a lot because I was like, oh, these other attractive girls are approaching me and talking to me, and I'm having conversations, and we're just you know easily you know chatting it up.
- 16:17SPEAKER_04: Um but then after a while, you can kind of spiral out of control and you get a data, and it's like, oh, what's next?
- 16:22SPEAKER_04: What's next?
- 16:23SPEAKER_04: What's next?
- 16:24SPEAKER_04: Not necessarily, you know, what's in front of you.
- 16:26SPEAKER_04: So I get that.
- 16:26SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I can imagine now the dating app scene is probably pretty trash.
- 16:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I just want to add one more thing too.
- 16:33SPEAKER_02: Um, depending on your type, this might be a little bit controversial to say, but hyper beautiful women are not on dating apps.
- 16:40SPEAKER_02: They're meeting face to face or they're getting warm leads for a potential match through their friends or through people that they know.
- 16:48SPEAKER_02: So you're not gonna see supermodels or an eight, nine, or a ten on a dating app, maybe every now and then, but if you're looking for that type of person, it's gonna be in person, or if you could utilize your social network, that could also help you.
- 17:02SPEAKER_02: Did you know this, Julie?
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: I did know that.
- 17:04SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say, unless you're famous and you can get on Raya and meet supermodels on like the celebrity dating app.
- 17:11SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 17:12SPEAKER_04: Monaco, are you on Raya yet?
- 17:14SPEAKER_04: Not yet.
- 17:14SPEAKER_04: Why yet?
- 17:15SPEAKER_04: Because I'm signing up one day after this episode, exactly for sure.
- 17:19SPEAKER_04: Um do men overthink the opener when it comes to at least even the the leading up to the soon as you open your mouth part.
- 17:27SPEAKER_04: Do men overthink that?
- 17:29SPEAKER_02: 100%.
- 17:30SPEAKER_04: And how do you fix that?
- 17:31SPEAKER_02: You fix that.
- 17:32SPEAKER_02: There's all there's I want to answer that in two ways.
- 17:35SPEAKER_02: Um, for men who overthink that, I think that there is internal struggle.
- 17:38SPEAKER_02: So that's either a lack of confidence, a lack of charisma, a lack of knowing what to say, when to say it, how to say it.
- 17:45SPEAKER_02: Those are all internal struggles that someone has to overcome.
- 17:49SPEAKER_02: And once they overcome that, then the game starts to begin.
- 17:52SPEAKER_02: That's when you can start saying maybe flirty things, slick things.
- 17:57SPEAKER_02: You could amp the volume up.
- 17:59SPEAKER_02: But if someone if a man is internally struggling with his self-esteem, confidence, that's a whole nother battle.
- 18:06SPEAKER_04: Julie, did when during your single days, or did did you see that as from the on the other end of it, from the receiving end?
- 18:13SPEAKER_04: Did you see that these guys would be nervous coming up and talking to you?
- 18:16SPEAKER_04: And did they need to be nervous?
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: No, because most of mine was through a dating app.
- 18:21SPEAKER_00: So it was more of just I mean, they would say stupid stuff over the thing, and I either would respond or wouldn't respond.
- 18:28SPEAKER_00: But no, I didn't really experience the nervousness.
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: Brandon.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: Brandon on dating apps?
- 18:32SPEAKER_03: I'm not.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: Why not?
- 18:33SPEAKER_03: I don't know, man.
- 18:34SPEAKER_00: Let's get branded on a dating app.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: Next episode, we're gonna set up his profile.
- 18:37SPEAKER_04: Yes, we're gonna set up his profile.
- 18:39SPEAKER_04: Monaco's gonna assist.
- 18:40SPEAKER_04: You're gonna be you're gonna be married by the end of it.
- 18:43SPEAKER_04: By the time we're done, you're gonna be hitched, it's gonna be great.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: Um, I had a question about the confidence thing.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: And I'm if it just depends on the person, let me know.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: But would you recommend that if a man is having like some sort of internal struggle, fix it and work on it before you start approaching people?
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: Or just start approaching people and work on it as you go?
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: What would be your advice?
- 19:06SPEAKER_02: I would say work on it as you go.
- 19:08SPEAKER_02: Um, it really depends on how much internal conflict there is.
- 19:13SPEAKER_02: I mean, if they need if they know that they need some type of therapy or professional help, that's a different ball.
- 19:18SPEAKER_02: That's a different ball game.
- 19:19SPEAKER_02: But I would say work on it as you go.
- 19:21SPEAKER_02: You don't want you're never gonna have your ducks aligned, so to say, um, to get to the point where you're gonna magically start being good at talking to women.
- 19:33SPEAKER_02: So I would say do it at the same time when you start talking to women, or even for ladies when you start talking to men, but when you start talking to women, you're gonna start to refine your skills over time.
- 19:45SPEAKER_02: That's not gonna fix your internal conflicts, but you might as well do it at the same time.
- 19:50SPEAKER_04: Like I said at the top of the episode, you get balls of steel.
- 19:52SPEAKER_04: Where is this confidence coming from?
- 19:55SPEAKER_02: Comes from a lot of experience, a lot of struggle in my early life, um, a lot of risk taking, a lot of failures.
- 20:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:03SPEAKER_04: You learn more from your failures for sure.
- 20:05SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 20:05SPEAKER_04: What um on let's let's say your ratio of going up to girls, because uh the there's an episode of King of the Hill.
- 20:12SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you watch King of the Hill or are familiar with it.
- 20:14SPEAKER_04: Boomhow Boomhauser is like the the ladies' man of of the group, and he's the guy that kind of, hey man, you're and he's always he's always got a girl coming over, but then there's one episode where it shows him how he goes and picks up these girls, and to him it's a numbers game.
- 20:28SPEAKER_04: It it's you know, for every 10 girls he talks to, one or two of them say yes, and that's all you need is that one or two that say yes, and you know, that's how he does it.
- 20:37SPEAKER_04: But do you feel like with uh first of all, is it what's your success rate?
- 20:42SPEAKER_04: Would you consider when you go out and talk to these girls?
- 20:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean out of ten.
- 20:46SPEAKER_02: Honestly, yeah, out of ten, I would say about a one to two close rate, depending on what you think that is, whether that's sex, if I want to transition that into a relationship, but I would say what is that, 10 to 20 percent?
- 20:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 20:58SPEAKER_04: And then in terms of numbers-wise, I mean, for guys that are out there and they may not have the confidence or may not have the looks for it or whatever it is, would you tell them the same thing that it's a numbers game, or what would you say just focus on quality more than quantity?
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: I would have to say it's a numbers game.
- 21:14SPEAKER_02: You know, even if you are searching for someone quality, they could be taken.
- 21:18SPEAKER_02: They might not be interested in you.
- 21:20SPEAKER_02: Um, they might be foreign.
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: So the culture and the jokes that you're trying to land might not hit the same as an American woman.
- 21:29SPEAKER_02: So you have to double down on the volume game.
- 21:31SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
- 21:31SPEAKER_04: Do you ever have a wingman or do you always go out solo?
- 21:34SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I have a wingman, you know.
- 21:35SPEAKER_02: Sometimes people on Instagram hit me up and say, hey, we're over here, come through.
- 21:40SPEAKER_02: 90% of the time it's by myself.
- 21:41SPEAKER_04: What does it take to have a good man?
- 21:43SPEAKER_04: Well what does it take to be a good wingman?
- 21:45SPEAKER_02: Having someone at least on your level, you know, having that awareness of is she attracted to me, when to leave the conversation, when to give compliments, when to hype up your, you know, your friends.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: It's a lot.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: It's a lot.
- 22:01SPEAKER_02: You basically would have to duplicate who you are already if you are at a certain level and then expect them not to tamper or sabotage uh your your set, so to speak.
- 22:11SPEAKER_04: Brandon, how do you feel about being a wingman or having a wingman?
- 22:13SPEAKER_04: What are the other?
- 22:14SPEAKER_03: You know, I'd rather not have a wingman.
- 22:17SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 22:17SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 22:18SPEAKER_03: Well, I just I just feel like it's not very organic when I do.
- 22:21SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 22:22SPEAKER_00: What if you're but you're out at the bar with one of your buddies?
- 22:25SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna tell him, like, hey, can you go to the bathroom or leave me alone so I can approach this girl?
- 22:31SPEAKER_03: Well, I would just find my way to slip out.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: Oh, you would yeah, you'd Irish exit on your buddy at the bar.
- 22:37SPEAKER_03: No way.
- 22:39SPEAKER_03: I trust them.
- 22:39SPEAKER_03: I know them.
- 22:40SPEAKER_03: They're not gonna disappear.
- 22:41SPEAKER_03: So you would prefer not to be the wingman, and you're also preferring not to have a wingman?
- 22:46SPEAKER_03: Is that what you're saying?
- 22:46SPEAKER_03: So I could be a wigman, but I'd rather not have one for myself.
- 22:50SPEAKER_03: If that makes sense.
- 22:51SPEAKER_04: You because you feel like you don't need that that extra boost of whatever it is.
- 22:57SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just think it adds just this odd atmosphere when I have one.
- 23:01SPEAKER_03: So it just gets me off my game.
- 23:02SPEAKER_00: But what if she also has a friend with her?
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: Then is it more acceptable?
- 23:07SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 23:07SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 23:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 23:08SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 23:09SPEAKER_04: That's strategy.
- 23:10SPEAKER_04: And Monaco, back me up here.
- 23:12SPEAKER_04: If you're growing up to a group of girls, and let's just say two girls, it uh is obviously tremendously easier to have a wingman to talk to maybe the lesser attractive girl or the a girl that you're not as interested in.
- 23:23SPEAKER_04: Sure.
- 23:23SPEAKER_04: Um, more than likely it's the grenade that you're you're jumping on.
- 23:27SPEAKER_04: It's the guy.
- 23:27SPEAKER_00: Okay, is this 2009 Jersey Shore?
- 23:30SPEAKER_00: We're dropping the word grenade.
- 23:33SPEAKER_04: Is it is that done?
- 23:34SPEAKER_04: Is that not a thing anymore?
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: I maybe it is for you.
- 23:38SPEAKER_00: I don't I haven't heard anyone use it since Polly Shore or Mike the situation.
- 23:43SPEAKER_00: I think Polly Shore was not Polly Shore, DJ DJ Polly.
- 23:46SPEAKER_04: You already said poly shore.
- 23:47SPEAKER_00: I'm sure Polly Shore's used it too.
- 23:49SPEAKER_04: I'm sure Polly Shore has.
- 23:51SPEAKER_04: Um, but all right, so let's say Monaco, you you don't have a wingman, you're solo dolo, and you see a group of girls.
- 23:57SPEAKER_04: One of them's eyeing you, or maybe you have the eye on one of them.
- 24:01SPEAKER_04: Do you approach?
- 24:02SPEAKER_04: What's your strategy going up to the group of girls when you're solo?
- 24:05SPEAKER_02: Going up to a group is my favorite, to be honest with you.
- 24:08SPEAKER_02: I think it's a lot easier, and I'll tell you why.
- 24:11SPEAKER_02: Um for from a woman's perspective, I can understand this, but it could be a bit intimidating or a bit fearful for a random man to come up and approach her, you know, whatever she's going through.
- 24:22SPEAKER_02: You never know.
- 24:24SPEAKER_02: If she has a friend, at least one friend or a group of friends, the level of anxiety is down.
- 24:30SPEAKER_02: So she feels safer automatically.
- 24:32SPEAKER_02: She's in a group.
- 24:33SPEAKER_02: I think that females are a little bit more pack-oriented than men.
- 24:36SPEAKER_02: I think that men kind of play this lone wolf type of character.
- 24:40SPEAKER_02: So going up to a group of women has always been easier for me and easier for some of the men that I have taught, some of the men that I've coached.
- 24:48SPEAKER_02: And just when I go out and I see men approaching, I see the results, they're getting better results with groups because of the lower anxiety, because they feel like they're more protected with their friends.
- 25:00SPEAKER_02: And yeah, that's that's what I think.
- 25:02SPEAKER_02: Well said.
- 25:03SPEAKER_04: Look at Monica, Monaco, for all things considered, you have some good insight.
- 25:07SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna say that is spot on from the female perspective.
- 25:10SPEAKER_04: Nicely done.
- 25:11SPEAKER_04: I was not expecting such accuracy.
- 25:14SPEAKER_04: Um let me let me tell you my approach back in the day when I was a dirty dog.
- 25:18SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be bad.
- 25:19SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be really bad.
- 25:20SPEAKER_04: It's not bad, it's just strategic.
- 25:22SPEAKER_04: Is if there is a group of girls, and there is one girl that she and I just keep making eye contact with her, and I do get a chance to go up and talk to her while she's still in her group of friends.
- 25:30SPEAKER_04: We hit it off, things are going swell, maybe a couple minutes.
- 25:33SPEAKER_04: But then I immediately focus my attention on all the other girls and you know, include them in the conversation to the part where maybe the original girl maybe feels a little left out, or why isn't he paying as much attention to me as he just was?
- 25:44SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 25:44SPEAKER_04: But at the same time, the other girls are like, Oh, this guy can have a conversation.
- 25:48SPEAKER_04: This guy's actually funny, he's not a creep.
- 25:50SPEAKER_04: And then I walk, go to the bathroom, I go get a drink for me and the original girl, whatever.
- 25:54SPEAKER_04: As soon as I leave, the girls go, Oh, he's great, you're gonna love him, he's so much better than your ex-boyfriend.
- 25:58SPEAKER_04: Would that work on you, Julie?
- 26:00SPEAKER_04: Like as a as a girlfriend, like with with with all your girls, would you say, Oh, I like that guy a lot, and you're well while they I'm going to get a drink?
- 26:09SPEAKER_00: Yes, but I have one critique about your story.
- 26:11SPEAKER_00: But yeah, 100% like if if if a dude is able to speak to all the girls I'm with and not creep anybody out, then that's ideal, right?
- 26:21SPEAKER_00: Because I I wouldn't want a boyfriend who can't hang out with my friends.
- 26:24SPEAKER_01: That's fair.
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: So why would I even entertain that, you know?
- 26:27SPEAKER_00: But I don't think that if you approach a group of girls at the bar one night that they're gonna go, oh, he's so much better than your ex.
- 26:34SPEAKER_00: Because they might not be thinking that far ahead yet.
- 26:36SPEAKER_04: Let's be honest, they are.
- 26:38SPEAKER_00: I don't I think that's in your own head.
- 26:40SPEAKER_00: I think maybe they'd be like, oh wow, he's cute, he's funny, but I don't think they're immediately gonna bring up the ex-boyfriend in that moment.
- 26:48SPEAKER_04: I think they'll immediately bring up the ex-boyfriend.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 26:51SPEAKER_04: Monaco, you're the deciding factor.
- 26:53SPEAKER_04: Will they bring up the ex-boyfriend in that in that moment or no?
- 26:55SPEAKER_02: It might come up in the conversation, um, but I do I do like your strategy.
- 26:59SPEAKER_02: I use that same one as well.
- 27:01SPEAKER_02: Once you get the pre-approval of all the friends, you know, and you kind of ignore the one you were going for, it kind of usually works out.
- 27:07SPEAKER_04: Brand, are you writing all this down back?
- 27:09SPEAKER_04: I am.
- 27:09SPEAKER_03: I'm sprawling over here.
- 27:11SPEAKER_03: I can hear the scrolling.
- 27:13SPEAKER_04: I'll tell you what, we went to uh I have a a a friend of mine, he had a birthday party and I invited the team, and it was like a house party.
- 27:21SPEAKER_04: G was Julie, Brandon, and myself, and we were all for the first hour just kind of hanging out, you know, with ourselves, or you know, I was introducing them to some of my friends that were there too.
- 27:31SPEAKER_04: And then sometime during the party, Brandon disappeared, and he's gone for God knows how long.
- 27:36SPEAKER_04: And we look and see, and he's talking to some attractive girl, and then you're like, oh, good for him.
- 27:41SPEAKER_04: And then we see 20 minutes later, he's talking to some other girl.
- 27:44SPEAKER_00: At one point, he was in a group of like four girls.
- 27:47SPEAKER_04: It almost looked like this the situation we just kind of described.
- 27:50SPEAKER_04: So, Brandon, my question for you is does it take a little liquid courage to do that?
- 27:55SPEAKER_04: Or were you stone sober when that happened?
- 27:56SPEAKER_03: Oh, the liquid courage absolutely helps.
- 27:59SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it absolutely helps.
- 28:01SPEAKER_03: I mean, after you get the gauge of the room real quick, you know, and then just pick one by one.
- 28:06SPEAKER_03: It's easy.
- 28:07SPEAKER_04: Here's what I want to happen.
- 28:09SPEAKER_04: I want Brandon and Monaco to go out.
- 28:10SPEAKER_04: And I'm just gonna be there just recording.
- 28:12SPEAKER_04: I just want to watch the entire night unfold.
- 28:14SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
- 28:14SPEAKER_04: I think that would be so much fun.
- 28:16SPEAKER_04: Monaco teaches Brandon a few things.
- 28:17SPEAKER_04: Brandon learns the importance of being and having a wingman.
- 28:20SPEAKER_04: I think it's gonna be phenomenal.
- 28:21SPEAKER_00: Monaco, are you a liquid courage guy?
- 28:23SPEAKER_00: Or when you hit on women, do you prefer to not have anything to drink before?
- 28:28SPEAKER_02: I don't drink.
- 28:28SPEAKER_00: So I don't drink at all.
- 28:30SPEAKER_02: It's all organic.
- 28:30SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 28:31SPEAKER_04: Do you feel like that's a deal breaker for some, or does that make it things harder for you?
- 28:34SPEAKER_02: Sometimes it does.
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: I notice that people who are at drinking venues, they kind of press me and grill me with a lot of questions.
- 28:44SPEAKER_02: Why don't you drink?
- 28:45SPEAKER_02: Sure.
- 28:45SPEAKER_02: Did you used to have a problem drinking?
- 28:47SPEAKER_02: Are you sure you don't want to drink?
- 28:48SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I'm good, you know?
- 28:50SPEAKER_02: So sometimes that does interfere with what I'm trying to accomplish.
- 28:55SPEAKER_02: But honestly, once the charisma kicks in, once the jokes kick in, they kind of look past that.
- 29:00SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 29:00SPEAKER_04: Have you ever had a wingman say in the group setting, like, hey Monica, remember that time you donated a hundred of Bitcoin to a local charity?
- 29:07SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 29:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
- 29:08SPEAKER_02: It's just funny.
- 29:09SPEAKER_04: It works like a charm.
- 29:10SPEAKER_04: Listen, I loved being a wingman because it's I love not necessarily lying, but I love just kind of boosting the story.
- 29:17SPEAKER_04: Oh, just you know, making it a little bit more far-fetched than it needs to be.
- 29:22SPEAKER_04: And it's so much fun.
- 29:22SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 29:23SPEAKER_04: Especially when alcohol is involved.
- 29:24SPEAKER_04: People believe more than they actually should, which is great.
- 29:27SPEAKER_04: Um, so Brandon did help me with the research and kind of did a background dive on you.
- 29:33SPEAKER_04: He had this this line here.
- 29:34SPEAKER_04: I want to make sure it's it's legit before I say this is what you say.
- 29:38SPEAKER_04: Have you ever opened up with what's your status?
- 29:40SPEAKER_04: Single, married, or cheating?
- 29:42SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 29:45SPEAKER_02: Has that worked?
- 29:46SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: What did they say?
- 29:48SPEAKER_02: They laugh.
- 29:49SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of like the like that's my step in the door, you know?
- 29:54SPEAKER_02: And you know, with women, they always kind of like want to tell the truth.
- 29:57SPEAKER_02: They want to say like what they're actually doing.
- 30:00SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they go, oh well, I'm seeing a few guys, so you are cheating.
- 30:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
- 30:04SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
- 30:05SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's not cheating if it's like a roster and they're single.
- 30:08SPEAKER_02: That's true.
- 30:10SPEAKER_04: It listen, honesty is everything.
- 30:12SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 30:12SPEAKER_04: And if they can't hang, then they can't fucking hang.
- 30:14SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 30:15SPEAKER_04: What's another original line from Monaco that doesn't get enough respect?
- 30:18SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, I don't or strategy, or strategy.
- 30:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just the strategy is just uh sort of what I mentioned before, just either open opening up with a compliment or just saying, Hey, I thought you were cute.
- 30:29SPEAKER_02: I saw you over there and I wanted to say hi.
- 30:32SPEAKER_02: These pickup lines that I hear men doing even in 2026, that was very 2008-2007 game when men were posting on forums, and that was strictly for the need of sex, where I think game today is beyond that.
- 30:47SPEAKER_02: I think that if you're looking for a one-night stand, that's cool.
- 30:50SPEAKER_02: But I think it's even better, and I think it's more advanced when you actually have women become uh in your retention if you call up a few girls just to go and hang out, just to be friends.
- 31:01SPEAKER_02: I think that's I think that's advanced.
- 31:03SPEAKER_04: You want to hit them on a deeper level.
- 31:05SPEAKER_04: Sure, yeah.
- 31:05SPEAKER_00: What do you think about this?
- 31:06SPEAKER_00: This is my pickup line on my husband on the dating app.
- 31:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 31:10SPEAKER_00: I said, You have really pretty teeth, good or bad.
- 31:14SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 31:14SPEAKER_02: I think that's good.
- 31:15SPEAKER_02: That's a great thing.
- 31:16SPEAKER_02: He likes it.
- 31:16SPEAKER_02: Compliment.
- 31:17SPEAKER_00: You made fun of me for it one time on an episode.
- 31:19SPEAKER_04: I would never make fun of you for it.
- 31:22SPEAKER_04: Did I make fun of you for it?
- 31:23SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:24SPEAKER_04: Well, when I did see your husband for the first time, I did notice he had really nice teeth.
- 31:27SPEAKER_00: He got really nice teeth.
- 31:28SPEAKER_04: He had really nice teeth.
- 31:29SPEAKER_04: And I didn't want to be a weirdo and be like, hey, you have nice teeth.
- 31:31SPEAKER_04: My name's Andrew, by the way.
- 31:32SPEAKER_00: You should have.
- 31:33SPEAKER_00: Maybe he would have fallen in love with you.
- 31:34SPEAKER_04: You know what?
- 31:34SPEAKER_04: Maybe you know, I just didn't want to make things awkward.
- 31:36SPEAKER_00: I know.
- 31:37SPEAKER_00: You'd have Monaco, you'd have Tyler, everybody.
- 31:40SPEAKER_04: I got the whole boy gang over here.
- 31:42SPEAKER_04: Um, all right, so you have a you have an app called QD Counter, right?
- 31:46SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 31:46SPEAKER_04: What's Qt Counter all about?
- 31:48SPEAKER_02: So QD Counter is an app that I designed.
- 31:50SPEAKER_02: Um, it was intentionally originally for myself.
- 31:54SPEAKER_02: I go out about 45 nights a week, and so I had an issue with meeting so many people, so many girls, that I needed a way to basically put in their details to remind myself of who I met.
- 32:06SPEAKER_02: Now, in some of like Don't laugh, Julie.
- 32:08SPEAKER_00: No, I'm laughing because I like it, not because it's funny.
- 32:10SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
- 32:11SPEAKER_00: No, I laugh because it's it's cool, it's a good idea.
- 32:13SPEAKER_02: I'm loving way too many women.
- 32:15SPEAKER_04: Not enough.
- 32:16SPEAKER_04: Keep going, please continue.
- 32:18SPEAKER_02: So I was doing it in the notes app, you know, for iPhone, and I was just trying to jot down as many as much as I could remember.
- 32:25SPEAKER_02: And in the context uh feature of the iPhone, and I think all cell phones now, they have a small notes section where you can type in things uh under their contact info.
- 32:35SPEAKER_02: That was taking too long.
- 32:37SPEAKER_02: I needed something more streamlined.
- 32:38SPEAKER_02: So I designed the QD counter app, which basically streams lined everything.
- 32:43SPEAKER_02: You can put in where you met them, what their name was, what ethnicity they were.
- 32:48SPEAKER_02: I built in an attractiveness slider on a scale of one through ten.
- 32:52SPEAKER_02: There's also a free form section, just like any other notes app.
- 32:55SPEAKER_02: But originally it was for myself.
- 32:58SPEAKER_02: But when I kept going out more and more, talking to more guys, talking to more girls, just socializing, I would show them the app.
- 33:04SPEAKER_02: I had a demo version on my phone, and they were like, I could use that.
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: And so it never occurred to me to release it to the public.
- 33:11SPEAKER_02: It was just gonna be for myself.
- 33:13SPEAKER_02: And so basically to sum it up, the cutie counter app is for single men and women to track their social and flirty interactions that they have face to face.
- 33:22SPEAKER_04: Interesting.
- 33:23SPEAKER_04: And your cutie counter app, do you are you tracking your analytics too of like you know, your your stats of yes, I have more success with Latinas than I do with white women?
- 33:31SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 33:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, 100%.
- 33:33SPEAKER_00: Who do you have the most success with?
- 33:35SPEAKER_00: What demographic?
- 33:36SPEAKER_02: Not just not it doesn't have to be race, but um well, I would say women that are younger than 30, and then Hispanic and Asian women would be the top two.
- 33:44SPEAKER_02: White women would be number three, and then yeah.
- 33:47SPEAKER_04: You grow out four to five nights a week.
- 33:49SPEAKER_02: About, yeah.
- 33:50SPEAKER_02: It helps when you don't drink.
- 33:51SPEAKER_04: That I was about to say because it's not as expensive, and you don't wake up with a hangover and then the next morning.
- 33:57SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
- 33:58SPEAKER_04: Um, what do you consider success?
- 34:00SPEAKER_04: Is it getting number?
- 34:01SPEAKER_04: Is it just getting a smile?
- 34:02SPEAKER_04: Is it getting a conversation going?
- 34:04SPEAKER_02: Is it what?
- 34:05SPEAKER_02: I think that depends on the individual.
- 34:07SPEAKER_02: Uh for me specifically, I would say that having something beyond sex, either a relationship or someone that you could call and invite them out to a concert or to a club, etc.
- 34:18SPEAKER_02: It don't have to necessarily be your girlfriends, but having that retention of female friends after you talk to them, after you cold approach them, I think that's success to me.
- 34:29SPEAKER_02: Whereas me 10 years ago, success would have been just getting the number or just having sex and then that would be it.
- 34:35SPEAKER_02: So it really depends on the individual.
- 34:37SPEAKER_02: But I would say for most men out there, I think that you need to look beyond having sex and expanding your social circle when it comes to women.
- 34:45SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
- 34:46SPEAKER_04: And you you do we do what these monthly giveaways for QD Counter, is that right?
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just started this month and somebody won.
- 34:52SPEAKER_02: So what do they win?
- 34:53SPEAKER_04: They get access, like it you it's a paid app and then they get access to it.
- 34:56SPEAKER_02: Yep, it's a paid app, and then if they win the giveaway, it's completely for free.
- 35:00SPEAKER_04: Brandon, have you entered?
- 35:01SPEAKER_03: I have actually.
- 35:02SPEAKER_03: You haven't won yet?
- 35:03SPEAKER_03: No, not this month.
- 35:05SPEAKER_04: Well, listen, I know a guy that knows a guy that knows Monaco, so maybe we'll uh we'll maybe fix the next card.
- 35:10SPEAKER_04: Fingers are crossed.
- 35:11SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 35:11SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 35:12SPEAKER_04: Um that's good.
- 35:14SPEAKER_04: That's good.
- 35:14SPEAKER_04: That's real good.
- 35:15SPEAKER_04: I'm a big analytics guy.
- 35:16SPEAKER_04: And I I mean, I'm an analytics guy with our podcast, analytics guy with our websites and social media stuff.
- 35:22SPEAKER_04: Never thought about analytics about the the dating scene.
- 35:24SPEAKER_04: That's interesting.
- 35:26SPEAKER_04: Julie, how do you feel about that?
- 35:27SPEAKER_00: I think it's I it's a great idea.
- 35:29SPEAKER_00: I think it's essentially like um what do people used to call it?
- 35:33SPEAKER_00: I guess when they'd write down just who they've slept with, like their your little black book or whatever.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: It's like that, but higher class with more information.
- 35:41SPEAKER_00: You can have it on your phone instead of just typing it in your notes app.
- 35:44SPEAKER_04: Monico can't be a good one.
- 35:45SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 35:46SPEAKER_04: He's a classy guy.
- 35:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like it.
- 35:47SPEAKER_00: I love it, I love it.
- 35:48SPEAKER_04: I agree.
- 35:49SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
- 35:49SPEAKER_04: Let me hit with hit let me hit you with some scenarios and you tell me your approach with these.
- 35:53SPEAKER_04: Sure.
- 35:53SPEAKER_04: Uh, we already talked about the group of four women, women at the bar.
- 35:56SPEAKER_04: A woman with headphones in at the gym.
- 35:58SPEAKER_04: Would you approach or no?
- 36:00SPEAKER_02: That's difficult.
- 36:00SPEAKER_02: That's difficult for sure.
- 36:02SPEAKER_02: So that would I would say that's 10 out of 10, hard mode.
- 36:04SPEAKER_04: That's real hard mode.
- 36:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 36:07SPEAKER_04: Okay, so let's say headphones in at the gym and then no headphones in at the gym.
- 36:11SPEAKER_04: Tell me your would you approach, yes or no?
- 36:13SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 36:14SPEAKER_02: For both of them.
- 36:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if I see somebody that I'm attracted to, I gotta figure it out.
- 36:17SPEAKER_02: It's gotta go, man.
- 36:18SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 36:19SPEAKER_04: What would be because so many women don't want to get disturbed at the gym.
- 36:22SPEAKER_04: And Julie, feel free to back me up on this.
- 36:25SPEAKER_04: Is they feel like they just want to get their work out in, they don't want to get oogled at or ogled at, and they want to just you know carry on with their day.
- 36:32SPEAKER_04: How do you approach them without being that guy that they complain about later to their friends?
- 36:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the gym I would say is a difficult spot.
- 36:39SPEAKER_02: I would say that the ego is more elevated in the gym amongst both men and women, especially if they know that they have a great physique.
- 36:47SPEAKER_02: The ego is just gonna be elevated.
- 36:48SPEAKER_02: And so you are right, people are going there, women are going there to focus.
- 36:52SPEAKER_02: So I would I do this, and it's still kind of simple, but if she has headphones on, I would just wait until she's done with her set, you know, kind of wait in that rest.
- 37:03SPEAKER_00: Definitely don't interrupt a set.
- 37:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's too advanced.
- 37:08SPEAKER_04: That's just looking for trouble.
- 37:10SPEAKER_02: But um, as soon as she's done with her set, I would just walk up to her and just kind of like obviously get her attention.
- 37:17SPEAKER_02: Now you already know she's gonna be irritated right off the bat, more than likely.
- 37:21SPEAKER_02: So I would really just open up quickly and say, Hey, I didn't want to bother you.
- 37:25SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna be five seconds, but I thought you were cute.
- 37:28SPEAKER_02: I wanted to see if you were single or if you were married.
- 37:31SPEAKER_04: Or if you're cheating.
- 37:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or if you're cheating.
- 37:35SPEAKER_04: Um you're in line at Starbucks, and the the girl behind you is somebody that caught your eye.
- 37:42SPEAKER_04: What would be your opener?
- 37:43SPEAKER_04: Or obviously you would approach.
- 37:45SPEAKER_04: I'm assuming everybody on my list that I have here is yes, you're gonna approach, but what would be your opener for that one?
- 37:50SPEAKER_04: Same, but same, same line?
- 37:52SPEAKER_02: Same line, um, but just for the sake of the podcast, I mean, I think that I would switch it up and I would give her a compliment depending on her hair, depending on her shoes.
- 38:00SPEAKER_02: Never compliment her body, you know, never compliment her figure, um, no matter how attractive she may be.
- 38:07SPEAKER_02: Um, I would start with something like that and see how receptive she is.
- 38:10SPEAKER_02: She's either going to be positive, neutral, or negative.
- 38:12SPEAKER_04: And if she's positive, when did you get up to the line, would you buy her a coffee or whatever she's ordering?
- 38:17SPEAKER_02: Possibly, possibly, unless uh she's trying to get a big order.
- 38:20SPEAKER_02: So order for the office.
- 38:23SPEAKER_04: Oh, my boyfriend wants a decaf too, if you don't mind.
- 38:25SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
- 38:26SPEAKER_02: I take back all the compliments.
- 38:29SPEAKER_04: Um, all right, so you're at you're at Albertson's.
- 38:31SPEAKER_04: You're in the dairy aisle.
- 38:33SPEAKER_04: It's you know, she's looking at 2% or whole milk.
- 38:36SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 38:37SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 38:38SPEAKER_04: What's your move?
- 38:39SPEAKER_02: Again, I would just compliment her on something, whether that's her retirement or I would.
- 38:44SPEAKER_02: You know what?
- 38:44SPEAKER_02: I'll add something new too.
- 38:46SPEAKER_02: Um, never approach a woman if she can't see you, or she can't see you like in her peripheral vision.
- 38:51SPEAKER_00: Um, that's a good definitely don't.
- 38:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 38:55SPEAKER_00: If she doesn't know you're hovering, don't approach.
- 39:00SPEAKER_04: You just creep up behind her.
- 39:02SPEAKER_00: That's how you get an elbow to the groin.
- 39:04unknown: Exactly.
- 39:05SPEAKER_04: That's some good info.
- 39:06SPEAKER_04: Again, you wouldn't necessarily think about it.
- 39:08SPEAKER_04: It's kind of an unspoken rule, but you wouldn't think about that.
- 39:11SPEAKER_02: There are things that you have to be aware of, you know.
- 39:13SPEAKER_02: You don't want to approach her, you know, like if you're hovering or if she hasn't even seen you.
- 39:18SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I'll do this on purpose.
- 39:20SPEAKER_02: Let's say she's walking down the aisle.
- 39:22SPEAKER_02: I will speed up on purpose just so I'm in front of her, and then I'll be like, oh hey, I like your shoes.
- 39:27SPEAKER_00: Next time you should run around a different aisle and come the other way.
- 39:31SPEAKER_02: That's a good idea.
- 39:32SPEAKER_04: I'll tell you what, there's a fun, fun story that I have for you.
- 39:34SPEAKER_04: You know, um, you I know you watched The Office.
- 39:37SPEAKER_04: Do you have you watched The Office before?
- 39:38SPEAKER_04: I've seen it.
- 39:39SPEAKER_04: So the receptionist, not Pam, but the the younger one.
- 39:42SPEAKER_04: Aaron, yes.
- 39:43SPEAKER_04: So when I lived in Los Angeles, I was at some grocery store and I saw her there, and I didn't recognize who she was at first.
- 39:50SPEAKER_04: I just knew I recognized her.
- 39:51SPEAKER_04: And I thought I was going through my list, like, have I dated her?
- 39:53SPEAKER_04: Did my friends with her?
- 39:54SPEAKER_04: Did I work with her?
- 39:55SPEAKER_00: Ellie Ellie Ellie Kempler or something.
- 39:57SPEAKER_04: And so once I realized who it was, I was like, oh shit.
- 40:00SPEAKER_04: And I'm not really one to go up and talk to celebrities.
- 40:02SPEAKER_04: I'd let them do their thing.
- 40:04SPEAKER_04: I I don't I don't care about that.
- 40:05SPEAKER_04: But um, we happened to walk down the same aisle and uh you know, uh um crossing each other, and she kind of uh gave me a smile and all that stuff, and I was like, Oh, that's pretty cool.
- 40:15SPEAKER_04: So then I projected which aisles she would go to next, similar to yours, where I was in the aisle first, and then she would walk down the aisle and we pass again and all that stuff.
- 40:25SPEAKER_04: Coincidentally, we just happened to be in the checkout line next to each other.
- 40:28SPEAKER_04: Uh she was at this checkout, I was at that checkout, and I was like, you know, I why not just say something?
- 40:33SPEAKER_04: And so I went up to her and I said, Hey, listen, I couldn't help but notice you were following me in the grocery store.
- 40:39SPEAKER_04: And she, like that, goes, Oh, it's because we're making the same meal.
- 40:42SPEAKER_04: And it caught me so off guard that I just went, uh, and that was it.
- 40:47SPEAKER_04: And that was it.
- 40:47SPEAKER_00: She couldn't keep up and she wasn't interested anymore.
- 40:51SPEAKER_04: That was it.
- 40:52SPEAKER_04: Just like Piff.
- 40:53SPEAKER_04: We had Piff the Magic Dragon on, and he was fantastic.
- 40:55SPEAKER_04: He was so much fun, and I was able to keep up for at least like an hour.
- 40:59SPEAKER_04: But the last 30 minutes after that, I was just so tired that I couldn't keep up with this banter, and that that's exactly it.
- 41:05SPEAKER_04: I just need to work on my talking to celebrities more.
- 41:08SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 41:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 41:09SPEAKER_04: Uh that would have caught me off guard too, honestly.
- 41:12SPEAKER_04: It was she was so quick-witted with it, and I respect the hell out of her for it.
- 41:15SPEAKER_00: We should have.
- 41:15SPEAKER_00: Oh, what are we eating tonight?
- 41:17SPEAKER_00: Damn, Julie! And that's how you get invited over for dinner.
- 41:19SPEAKER_04: You're about 15 years too late, but thank you for that.
- 41:22SPEAKER_04: Where have you been?
- 41:23SPEAKER_04: Um, all right.
- 41:23SPEAKER_04: Then lastly, last question.
- 41:25SPEAKER_04: Would you approach somebody?
- 41:27SPEAKER_04: You're you just get on a plane, she's the window seat, you're the aisle seat, there's nobody in the middle.
- 41:32SPEAKER_04: Would you say something to her with the risk of getting a no or getting turned down, meaning you have the next four hours sitting together?
- 41:40SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that one.
- 41:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 41:41SPEAKER_02: So I would.
- 41:42SPEAKER_02: I still would.
- 41:43SPEAKER_04: Ballsy motherfucker.
- 41:44SPEAKER_04: Good for you.
- 41:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, if she was taken, that'd be awkward, but I would say it out loud.
- 41:48SPEAKER_02: I would be like, well, this is gonna be awkward.
- 41:51SPEAKER_02: Break that ice even more.
- 41:52SPEAKER_04: I love that.
- 41:52SPEAKER_04: Julie, do you like get hidden on a on the plane?
- 41:54SPEAKER_00: It generally, I don't really like getting hit on that.
- 41:57SPEAKER_00: Like it, I don't know, it doesn't do it for me anymore.
- 41:59SPEAKER_04: Does it not feel good?
- 42:00SPEAKER_04: Even though, even though you there's no chance, obviously, but you don't like let's confidence.
- 42:04SPEAKER_00: Let's revise.
- 42:04SPEAKER_00: It depends what you mean by getting hit on.
- 42:06SPEAKER_00: Like how he was saying, if anybody walks up to me and is like, Well, I love the way you have your hair dyed, that feels good.
- 42:12SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 42:13SPEAKER_00: If someone walked up to me and was like, nice butt, I'd be like, You're get away.
- 42:17SPEAKER_00: Like you're you're a freak.
- 42:18SPEAKER_00: Please leave me alone.
- 42:19SPEAKER_02: That doesn't work.
- 42:20SPEAKER_00: No, but like complimenting things that I have like specifically chosen for myself.
- 42:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's cool.
- 42:26SPEAKER_00: I love that.
- 42:28SPEAKER_04: Listen, this was fun.
- 42:29SPEAKER_04: Brandon, do you have any other questions for Monaco?
- 42:30SPEAKER_04: Uh no, obviously.
- 42:32SPEAKER_04: You got everything answered?
- 42:33SPEAKER_04: Dude, I've been scrolling back here.
- 42:35SPEAKER_04: Take it.
- 42:36SPEAKER_04: I see your notebooks, multiple pages.
- 42:39SPEAKER_04: We're gonna talk to Jimmy at Vegas Brunch Boys, and we're gonna get you as a host on one of these events.
- 42:43SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, let's do it.
- 42:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 42:44SPEAKER_02: We'll change the game.
- 42:45SPEAKER_02: Change the game.
- 42:46SPEAKER_04: Girls love the host too.
- 42:47SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 42:48SPEAKER_02: Especially if they're single.
- 42:49SPEAKER_02: Let's get people talking.
- 42:50SPEAKER_04: Yes, let's get people talking, Julie.
- 42:53SPEAKER_04: What's next for Monaco 11?
- 42:55SPEAKER_02: Um, I did release a new app.
- 42:56SPEAKER_02: It's called The Craving Crusher.
- 42:58SPEAKER_02: It has nothing to do with dating at all.
- 43:00SPEAKER_02: Uh, this app allows you to basically quit fast food.
- 43:05SPEAKER_02: Um, that's a whole nother venture in itself.
- 43:07SPEAKER_02: But long story short, it does help you track how much you're spending at McDonald's, KFC, wherever, wherever, and it can help you redirect those funds towards a new goal, whether that's a new pair of shoes or just increase your savings account.
- 43:20SPEAKER_02: But other than that, I'm just on this technology trend right now.
- 43:23SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna really be releasing more apps.
- 43:25SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 43:26SPEAKER_02: And from there, just helping men, you know, get over their fears and hopefully help women too get over their fears of approaching.
- 43:32SPEAKER_02: Look at you.
- 43:32SPEAKER_00: What do you think it is about C name alliterations that really does it for you?
- 43:38SPEAKER_00: Cutie counter, craving crusher.
- 43:41SPEAKER_00: Are they all gonna be C's?
- 43:42SPEAKER_04: Chicks dig the C's.
- 43:44SPEAKER_00: Chicks that starts with the C.
- 43:46SPEAKER_02: You just blew my mind right there, Julie.
- 43:48SPEAKER_02: There we go.
- 43:49SPEAKER_02: I think it's just smooth.
- 43:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 43:51SPEAKER_00: The alliteration's good.
- 43:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nothing more to it.
- 43:54SPEAKER_02: Chicks dig the alliteration.
- 43:55SPEAKER_00: Chicks dig the alliteration.
- 43:56SPEAKER_04: I do.
- 43:57SPEAKER_04: Uh, how can people follow you?
- 43:58SPEAKER_04: Where can they find Monaco 11 on the digital world?
- 44:01SPEAKER_02: You can find me on Instagram at Monaco underscore11.
- 44:05SPEAKER_04: God bless you, Monaco 11.
- 44:06SPEAKER_04: Thank you so much for coming on the show.
- 44:08SPEAKER_04: This was fun.
- 44:08SPEAKER_04: Hey, this is cool.
- 44:09SPEAKER_04: This is good stuff.
- 44:10SPEAKER_04: Listen, I I don't want to jump the gun, but I think we have something here with Monaco.
- 44:14SPEAKER_04: I want him back on the show.
- 44:15SPEAKER_00: I know we might get Brandon someone to date.
- 44:17SPEAKER_04: Yes, please.
- 44:18SPEAKER_04: Brandon, I want you because so many events we go to, Brandon hasn't had a plus one yet.
- 44:23SPEAKER_04: I want him to bring a nice, lovely lady.
- 44:26SPEAKER_04: Brandon, maybe blonde.
- 44:29SPEAKER_04: She's like 6'4, 6'5.
- 44:31SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm climbing that tree.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: That is a crazy phrase.
- 44:39SPEAKER_00: Brandon.
- 44:40SPEAKER_04: God, I love it.
- 44:41SPEAKER_04: Um, oh my god.
- 44:42SPEAKER_04: Well, Monaco, this is great.
- 44:44SPEAKER_04: I appreciate you coming on.
- 44:45SPEAKER_04: Like I said, we're definitely gonna have you on.
- 44:47SPEAKER_04: Uh, I think we're gonna take a break and then uh we'll come back with some more big head stuff.
- 44:51SPEAKER_04: How do you feel about that?
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: Feel good about it.
- 44:53SPEAKER_00: You feel good?
- 44:53SPEAKER_00: Got my caffeine.
- 44:54SPEAKER_00: Starts with a C caffeine.
- 44:56SPEAKER_04: Another one?
- 44:57SPEAKER_04: Another one?
- 44:58SPEAKER_00: C for caffeine.
- 45:00SPEAKER_04: We'll be right back.