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Club 520 - Brandon Jennings & Jeff Teague on WILD rookie season with Bucks, trashing Ricky Rubio · Club 520 Podcast

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Speaker 1: The volume.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back another episode of Club five twenty podcasts.
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Speaker 2: I'm the host. My name is DJ Right. Well, special
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Speaker 2: guests in the building. To my left, we gonna introduce
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Speaker 2: my man's last to my far left. My dog should
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Speaker 2: be here out the pear least. How you what?
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Speaker 1: What's having? The nationalists? Get to it? God, damn it.
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Speaker 1: I see you upgraded the forces. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Jennis, have you ever seen
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Speaker 2: the call? You know I'm say they're rocking the Black
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Speaker 2: forces with the white laces out there?
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Speaker 1: No, I mean black forces mean that you you about
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Speaker 1: serious business? Damn damn. Somebody about to get got you
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Speaker 1: a high fashion again and here we will tap in
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Speaker 1: after the pole. Bro. I got fun with him though,
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Speaker 1: I mean, easy, just can you just have to shout
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Speaker 1: to the poll the all black so on too, so
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Speaker 1: you know you know what a shout easy, it's a
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Speaker 1: way they back. Yeah, they're back at all. We got
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Speaker 1: to my right, young young team.
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Speaker 3: I ain't got the Black Forces over, but I have
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Speaker 3: to beat them up.
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Speaker 1: He's mother. What's these called black cat force? Yeah? You
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Speaker 1: might not rob a nigga, but you might stab a
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Speaker 1: nigga know you know what I'm saying. But man, it's
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Speaker 1: good man.
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Speaker 3: We got we got legendary, we got an a legend,
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Speaker 3: a real legend class all wait, whop legend.
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Speaker 2: A lot of y'all getting paid because of this man
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Speaker 2: right here. B Jennings, appreciate you putting up the five twenty.
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Speaker 1: My dog Man show. Bro.
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Speaker 2: Oh y'all, thank you that show man. Like we gotta
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Speaker 2: start off the episode the right way. We got to
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Speaker 2: ask you a tough question. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: You came in the league, get super active. You know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We know what you did. Who is
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Speaker 2: the first person that you guarded in the league? Was
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Speaker 2: just like, oh, this shit crazy. I know you was
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Speaker 2: a pro already when you got to the league. Who
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Speaker 2: was that first match show?
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Speaker 3: You?
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Speaker 1: Was just like, oh shit, I got deal with this
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Speaker 1: shit every night. Uh. I would have to say Chauncey Phillips.
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Speaker 1: I think it was like my third game man, and
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Speaker 1: I gave him thirty twenty nine. Oh. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, I just knew. I was like, okay, like
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Speaker 1: this is what the league's about. Like posting me off
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Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. I have to get
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Speaker 1: stronger everything. But Chauncey Phillips was like my wake up
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Speaker 1: call to like all right, like all right, like this
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Speaker 1: is what it's gonna be.
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Speaker 3: Like Nah fuck that How does a wake up call
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Speaker 3: you had thirty two or nine?
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Speaker 1: Ship, I don't be like this easy. I mean because
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Speaker 1: like I mean like I'm a rookie, so I'm a fan.
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Speaker 1: So it's like I'm going to get MVP like the
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Speaker 1: finals and you know, NBA champion and be able to
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Speaker 1: be like with him and Kenyon, Martin Mellow and j
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Speaker 1: are out there in thirty two nine, it's like, oh, Ship,
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Speaker 1: like you know, like it was it was a hype moment,
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Speaker 1: but it also was like a moment of like okay,
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Speaker 1: like all right, like this was gonna be about Like
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Speaker 1: so who made you switch your bag up? Though? When
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Speaker 1: you end up against them? Who made me switch my
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Speaker 1: bag up?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Like who was that crazy back and forth? Duor I
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Speaker 4: know Chauncey made you think about the game, But who
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Speaker 4: was that when you first went up against and it
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Speaker 4: was like, all right, I'm at this nigga here we're
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Speaker 4: going crazy at each other?
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Speaker 1: Uh in the league?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jarren Williams, you will that crossover d Will yeah
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Speaker 5: in Utah, the double snatch, yeah, the double and then
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Speaker 5: like once I matched up with like I had a
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Speaker 5: bunch of great games against d Will, Like you know
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Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So I just felt like and he was one of
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Speaker 1: the top guards, so you know it was him a
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Speaker 1: CP three. So those two and being able to match
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Speaker 1: up with d Will, it was like it was like
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, like I'm nice, Like you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I can compete because like he
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Speaker 1: was one of the top guards.
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Speaker 2: You a mixtape legend, got one of the coldest basketball
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Speaker 2: mix types of all time. Austin Rivers was talking about
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Speaker 2: it recently about the mixtape situation. Obviously we know where
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Speaker 2: you staying in that who would you say besides you
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Speaker 2: was so man. The people like damn, he got a
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Speaker 2: crazy mixtape, a kill Car stopper. The fact that when
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Speaker 2: he played he stopped crying in Baltimore says a lot
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Speaker 2: about him because they do the wire out there, like
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Speaker 2: you know, so I don't think a lot of people
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Speaker 2: give a kill Cart his love. But I've seen that
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Speaker 2: that young and and the type of hype and the
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Speaker 2: type of people that come in Baltimore and like stop
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Speaker 2: everything they doing just to see him.
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Speaker 1: That's that's different, Like that's just different to me. I
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Speaker 1: remember him playing against Mooka.
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Speaker 3: When that that was that was dope. I told him
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Speaker 3: was kind of low key scared to guard him a
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Speaker 3: little bit. He started doing all that ship. I seen
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Speaker 3: mook stand up, like man, going with that ship now.
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Speaker 3: But you know who had another crazy mixtape. Dude named
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Speaker 3: Trey Jefferson. Oh, Trey Jefferson bro his mixtape crazy, I
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Speaker 3: Ain't Gonna lie you Gotta Fire mixed.
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Speaker 1: Tape Tray Jefferson, John Wall, John Wah, you know John
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Speaker 1: Washing School the person I am, Yeah, John Wall, I
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Speaker 1: mean yeah, man, I mean you know that was just
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Speaker 1: the beginning of it. You know, even d Rose. You
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Speaker 1: know you look at the roll ship like it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Treik Evans, but you know that's you know, that's one
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Speaker 1: of my goal to a class. You know, if people
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Speaker 1: don't say I'm the best player in the A class,
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Speaker 1: I gotta go with Errey Evans. You know, damn any day,
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Speaker 1: Like Terry Evans was like, did you have any of
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Speaker 1: you battles? Did we play against each other? You know,
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Speaker 1: we played against against each other high school against o'kill
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Speaker 1: and he, man, he crossed No One Smith so bad
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Speaker 1: and that was my god, No God, but god, damn
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Speaker 1: he hit No One with something crazy. But no, man,
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Speaker 1: he was just like that, you know, that that big guard,
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Speaker 1: Like he was one of the first big guards that
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Speaker 1: we've seen. Like you know how guards now are like
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Speaker 1: six four sixty five, Like he was that first big
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Speaker 1: guard that you've seen. And that's why he went so
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Speaker 1: high in the draft too, because everybody was under six
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Speaker 1: foot and he was like six three six four.
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Speaker 2: The product type yeah of what today is absolutely so man,
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Speaker 2: we got to take it back in high school. That
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Speaker 2: I mean, it started you off being a legend. You
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Speaker 2: go from Cali to the East coast. Yeah obviously you
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Speaker 2: know saying how you got there, But how was that
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Speaker 2: making that decision to go to Okill leaving comfort zone
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Speaker 2: young kid growing into a man taking basketball? It is
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Speaker 2: like your real job. Now, how was that decision? And
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Speaker 2: like how was that going out there? Because we talked
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Speaker 2: to everybody, like we talked to Josh Smith going out
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Speaker 2: there were like damn, o'k Hill said, like y'all was
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Speaker 2: doing a bid out there.
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Speaker 1: I mean to me, I just wanted more in life.
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Speaker 1: Like my situation at home wasn't great. Grew up in
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Speaker 1: a sycamparent mother home. You know, my dad passed when
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Speaker 1: I was eight, so at eleven, I had to become
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Speaker 1: the man of the house. Like you know, basketball became
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Speaker 1: a job and it was the you know, it was
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Speaker 1: paying rent and things like that. So, you know, oak
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Speaker 1: Hill was just a situation where I wanted to grow
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Speaker 1: and you know, do things for myself, like you know,
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Speaker 1: ok Kill. I had to wash my own clothes, I
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Speaker 1: had to go to school, wake up and you know,
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Speaker 1: clean my room and just be a man, like you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, grow up. So it was definitely
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Speaker 1: one of the best experience I've had in my life.
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Speaker 1: And you know, that was one of the reasons why
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Speaker 1: I don't mind taking challenges and taking risk in life
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Speaker 1: because of that move to oak Kill. I think we
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Speaker 1: were just talking about it before on the part, but
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Speaker 1: you know, it was between me and Eddie Reels m
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Speaker 1: if y'all know who. Eddie Reels is lefty from Miami,
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Speaker 1: and you know we were supposed to, Uh, Steve Smith
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Speaker 1: had to choose between me and him, and we're both lefties.
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Speaker 1: But of course I got the nod because you know,
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Speaker 1: my man Marcus Williams and his dad Kelly Williams, they
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Speaker 1: you know, they looked out for me, and of course
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Speaker 1: he made the best decision. Definitely respect to Eddie, but
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Speaker 1: we know what this I busted, Eddie asked, but he's facts.
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Speaker 3: I played against Eddie Riyolson when he went to Miami,
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Speaker 3: and yeah, they made a good decision.
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Speaker 1: But no, no disrespect though. You did what you had
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Speaker 1: to do.
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Speaker 3: But I was wondering, like I knew you for it now.
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Speaker 3: I was a fan of your game since you was
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Speaker 3: in high school. You were younger than me, but I
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Speaker 3: used to watch your game. So you played for so
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Speaker 3: Cal out of California. Yeah, you had a squad. I
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Speaker 3: remember the first time I seen y'all played with you,
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Speaker 3: Chase Buddinger, I think Taylor King and Taj Gibson and
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Speaker 3: y'all went up against Indy Heat, who had Greg Olden,
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Speaker 3: Mike Conley, ay Kwan Cook, Aaron Pole, Eric Gordy and
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Speaker 3: y'all had a duel and that was the first time
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Speaker 3: I seen like somebody really go at Mike like you
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Speaker 3: wouldn't like you wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: Like ship and they like, yeah, he younger, too younger
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Speaker 1: than them. I was like tenth grade. Yeah, I'm like, man,
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Speaker 1: who is this little motherfucker?
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I ain't no hater, but I'm like,
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Speaker 3: you know, people like, nah, he gonna beat the trip.
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Speaker 3: They can't funk with Mike. I'm like, then, me fucking
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Speaker 3: with Mike, best guard in the country. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: Like what was that like, man, Like competing two grades up?
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Speaker 1: I guess you was a I mean I always loved
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Speaker 1: the challenge, man. So you know, like I said before,
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Speaker 1: like you know my situations in life, so basketball was
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Speaker 1: like everything that's all I knew. So you know, I
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Speaker 1: had to work ten times harder. You know, I'm only
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Speaker 1: six to one, and you know, us as little guards,
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Speaker 1: we gotta, you know, put in the extra extra time.
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Speaker 1: So just being able to, you know, be at that
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Speaker 1: age and be in advance and you know, be out
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Speaker 1: there with Greg Golden, Eric Gordon, Greg Golden, Eric Gordon,
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Speaker 1: you know the day Kwon Cook, Mike Conley, Like, taking
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Speaker 1: on those challenges early just helped me help my game.
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Speaker 1: So when I played against my class I was looking
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Speaker 1: at them. It was like they was like, like you
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Speaker 1: like you light because because I never ducked the smoke
9:03
Speaker 1: since abc D camp, since you know, you've been a
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Speaker 1: b CD camp the big time everything. Like so you
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Speaker 1: if you see me at that, that means you know
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Speaker 1: I wasn't ducking smoke. Now you will have duck enough smoke.
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Speaker 3: That's why when you was talking about Gills Arenas, like,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I didn't get to see
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Speaker 3: them in high school. I knew Whean mm'sott buckets high school.
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Speaker 3: I seen him at McDonald's and all that ship. But
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Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, I've seen this nigga. He was in
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Speaker 3: tenth grade, tring.
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Speaker 1: To hold my own. He was out there better niggas too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: played against the top like that's you know, I'll be
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Speaker 1: on you know, I'll be keeping it humble with you
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Speaker 1: had a did you play against o J Mayo to time?
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Speaker 1: My nigga, Keenan Ellis was on that squad.
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Speaker 4: You've been playing niggas like in high school and on
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Speaker 4: AU That's what I'm saying. Niggas that came all the
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Speaker 4: way from Ohio out there to Domingas the folk with y'all.
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Speaker 1: So you've been doing it for a long time, bro, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Oja he killed us. Yeah, I was different,
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Speaker 1: but it's just like you know, that's the that's the
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Speaker 1: that's why I love the game of basketball, like I love, like,
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Speaker 1: you know, the challenge. Like it's like I don't I
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Speaker 1: don't really fuck with people in basketball that that never
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Speaker 1: took up on the challenge. Like you know, if you're
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Speaker 1: not in those sayings, you don't like being in that
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Speaker 1: hostile environment, then it's like it's not for you, like
10:21
Speaker 1: because this is what it's about, Like it's everything is
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Speaker 1: hostile's competition. So it's like you duck and smoke. It's like,
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Speaker 1: you know, like watch out moving around. I got a question, though,
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Speaker 1: what's your best AU matchup? You think my best AU matchup? Yep,
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Speaker 1: I think my best my best AU game. And it
10:40
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with like scoring. It has to
10:43
Speaker 1: do with locking up Eric Gordon in the second half
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Speaker 1: of the championship game in a big time Eric Gordon
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Speaker 1: had forty points on this street him and Derrick Rose.
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Speaker 1: Eric Gordon was coming down killing I'm talking about he
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Speaker 1: was killing us right halftime. I said, I got him.
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Speaker 1: I got him, like I got y'all do what y'all do?
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Speaker 1: I got him and I held him to like maybe
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Speaker 1: ten sixteen points. I mean, you know he's so at forty.
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Speaker 1: But it was just like like that moment of just
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Speaker 1: like you know, being a defender and having to you know,
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Speaker 1: like take a you know, take a step down and
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Speaker 1: just like you know, like like defend somebody. So you know,
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Speaker 1: that was like one of my big, biggest like a
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Speaker 1: you moments to me. I was at that game.
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Speaker 3: They beat us in the final four mean streets did
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Speaker 3: Eric Gore had a dunk that was on the internet.
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Speaker 3: He dunk one of my teammates shot at the time home. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: he dunked on Tommy so bad. Everybody ran on the court.
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Speaker 3: Brother got ejected and everybody started blowing us and free man,
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Speaker 3: he got punched on. You gotta pushed it. I got
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Speaker 3: crossed the half court. My fuck, but you made that happen.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn fun Temmy. But they started booing
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Speaker 3: us and I watched y'all game and Eric is going
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Speaker 3: crazy crazy. I'm like, Yo, this nigga is the best player.
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Speaker 1: He from here.
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Speaker 3: So I'm like, damn, Eric really is good. Yeah, who's
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Speaker 3: the best player ever seen?
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Speaker 1: Not Indiana? Eric in high school. Eric was going in
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Speaker 1: high school when he did the Jordan Kids bro ESPUs legendarybody.
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Speaker 1: It was crazy.
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Speaker 3: But then to see y'all keep going at it, I'm like,
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Speaker 3: Eric was killing so much, and then the second half,
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Speaker 3: like you said, you started competing against him. I'm watching
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Speaker 3: the game differently because I'm a fan of the game.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Damn, Eric can't really get by him, Like, Damn,
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Speaker 3: Eric really ain't killing no more, Like damn the fuck
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Speaker 3: this little nigga killing, Like that's the same nigga from
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Speaker 3: last year.
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Speaker 1: I'm noticing.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, this little motherfucker gonna be cold because I'm
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Speaker 3: older than him, So I'm baking, like yo, he's a
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Speaker 3: little next thing. You know it's him, Bro, Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. That little fro little shirt was big as.
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Speaker 1: Hell, off and ship the big guy's. White teachers used
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Speaker 1: to wear a job brother like this gonna be nice.
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Speaker 1: Had the hardball uniforms. Y'all was tugging man what Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we were. I mean, Sonny had it lit for shout
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Speaker 1: out to Sunny pakrola legend. You know when he got
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Speaker 1: to Rebok. You know we was, you know, we had to.
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Speaker 1: We was wearing ice creams a st Carters uh Iver,
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Speaker 1: since I mean, I don't know what shoes y'all have.
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Speaker 1: No we get that. You know that ship you was
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Speaker 1: the first thing I am. Let me tell you about
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Speaker 1: these niggas A. B. C. D. Kim Man.
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Speaker 3: It's him Thomas, Like I'm nobody knows. I get invited
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Speaker 3: by this camp by coach kind of got me in, Nigga.
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Speaker 3: I'm in the back of the line, way for my
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Speaker 3: jersey and shoes. Him and I t come out the
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Speaker 3: back two boxes of shoes, jersey, sweatshirts, all.
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Speaker 1: Type of ship.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, everybody get that ship. I get up
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Speaker 3: to the line of motherfucker's hand me my shoes. I
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Speaker 3: ain't even in a box. They hand me my two
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Speaker 3: like this, like you go. That's what I knew. Those
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Speaker 3: niggas was different. Bro, What was your jersey? Like two
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Speaker 3: fifty s like some real whatever like we was talking
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Speaker 3: about it earlier.
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Speaker 1: Nigga, the real Hoopers played the second and the fourth. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I played the first and the third.
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Speaker 3: So but I'm killing I'm thinking I'm fucking niggas up
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Speaker 3: to a nigga.
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Speaker 1: Corey Fisher I played. He played the first quarter.
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Speaker 3: In the fourth quarter, I had a good game against
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Speaker 3: him in the first, a good quarter against him. And
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Speaker 3: then the nigga told me in the middle of the game, like, nigga,
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Speaker 3: you playing in the third like you talking about I
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Speaker 3: get to look it. I'm like all the good niggas,
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Speaker 3: all the good niggas on the bit.
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Speaker 1: I was like, damn it. Thought he was a real starter,
14:29
Speaker 1: thought I was one nigga. They started me and everything
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Speaker 1: was called though he was cold New York behind him, man,
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Speaker 1: everybody nigga came, Bro.
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Speaker 3: They started yelling for the best matchup at that time.
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Speaker 3: You had a good matchup, but a fire match was
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Speaker 3: him and Johnny Flynn. The crowd was just standing up
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Speaker 3: the whole game, and I never forget Paul here.
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Speaker 1: It was like you better than him, Johnny, and looking back,
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Speaker 1: you're better than him. I'll never forget that.
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Speaker 2: Bro.
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Speaker 1: Every CD Chemera was a moment, was crazy. And then
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Speaker 1: the one with Lance Stevenson and O J was in
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Speaker 1: the eighth grade. In the eighth grade going against an
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Speaker 1: old J Mill that was a junior Like, like I
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Speaker 1: already tell people, man, Lance Stevenson is one of them ones.
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Speaker 1: That's to me, that's just like bro. He was like, Bro,
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Speaker 1: he was different slam Bro, like he was he was
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Speaker 1: the party, the kid like he was up next ready
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Speaker 1: like I know Sebastian Telfairs. And he kept that legacy going.
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Speaker 1: That's real fact.
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Speaker 3: So shout out to Lance Stevens can a legacy who
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Speaker 3: the best? Look at him. I don't know how to pie.
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Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: And on this nast by the way, Bro, you might
15:37
Speaker 1: as well have t paint on. I was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be going back to keep it going. This is a
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Speaker 1: natural part. So this is what natural. That's crazy. But
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Speaker 1: like I like my p now.
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Speaker 3: But speaking of the legacy, we talk about like California
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Speaker 3: where you put yourself as like California Guards. You know
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Speaker 3: you got bad, you got guilt, Yah, got so many
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Speaker 3: James Harden, where you put yourself.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're could just say high school. Well okay, we're
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Speaker 1: just talking high school. Then we're talking everything. Then I
16:21
Speaker 1: have to go with you know, if we're talking everything NBA,
16:24
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with James and Russ with the Guards
16:28
Speaker 1: and then I mean, of course Gil and b D.
16:31
Speaker 1: But we're talking just high school out of California. I
16:34
Speaker 1: mean I'm number one, Like there's there's no guard in
16:38
Speaker 1: California basketball that ever played high school basketball that's better
16:41
Speaker 1: than me. That's all just off the fact that, first
16:45
Speaker 1: of all, I left Domingus, like who the fuck leaves
16:48
Speaker 1: Domingus when it's a powerhouse school to go to Okill.
16:50
Speaker 1: So I made a transition that was first of all bold, ignorant, uh,
16:55
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, hockey type. And I go
16:58
Speaker 1: to Okill my first year and win the national championship
17:01
Speaker 1: all right, so you know, forty and one, and then
17:04
Speaker 1: my senior year, I become nationpent Player of the Year.
17:06
Speaker 1: So I actually actually feel like I took the bullet
17:09
Speaker 1: for US West Coast. I mean La Hoopers, you know,
17:12
Speaker 1: going to going to the East Coast and having to
17:14
Speaker 1: battle all these guards and and you know, take on
17:17
Speaker 1: every challenge every night because you know, okay, ain't no game,
17:20
Speaker 1: every every game down, like you lose one game, you
17:22
Speaker 1: don't win. You ain't in't no state, no no national nothing.
17:25
Speaker 1: You're just going there. So I just think my route,
17:29
Speaker 1: my route in general in high school was just better
17:30
Speaker 1: than anybody's.
17:31
Speaker 4: Nah, you got the best route. So I thought about it.
17:34
Speaker 4: I'm like, hell, no, your route is crazy, bro. Yeah,
17:38
Speaker 4: I would say y' all the best.
17:39
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know every guard in California and
17:41
Speaker 3: that it's gonna be a great debate for the PIP
17:43
Speaker 3: when people getting YouTube comments or whatever. But for me,
17:46
Speaker 3: I was gonna say you was the best out of
17:48
Speaker 3: high school overall. Like I agree with you, James and Russ.
17:50
Speaker 3: They the NBA's careers are amazing, but California got so
17:55
Speaker 3: many hoopers.
17:56
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you know, even out of high school,
17:58
Speaker 1: like going straight, like like just the beginning of my
18:01
Speaker 1: career in the NBA, I was better than a lot
18:03
Speaker 1: of things. No, you know what I'm saying, like from
18:06
Speaker 1: from from Europe until like you know, my my thing
18:09
Speaker 1: is I didn't have to wait. You did, like you know,
18:11
Speaker 1: and that's that's just my biggest thing. Like I was
18:13
Speaker 1: always a star and I hated you.
18:17
Speaker 3: This is real ship nigga everything, and I felt that,
18:20
Speaker 3: you know.
18:20
Speaker 1: What's crazy, I felt that when we played. I'm like, Jeff,
18:22
Speaker 1: I don't think Jeff fuck with me, Like like like
18:26
Speaker 1: what's the nigga? Everything I wanted to do? This nigga
18:29
Speaker 1: was doing this. Niggas started as a rookie. Nigga's killing
18:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? Like I just went to
18:35
Speaker 1: wait for it.
18:36
Speaker 3: I was killing this nigga get to play. I'm gonna
18:37
Speaker 3: stand behind Mike Dibbie. But then I never forget that
18:41
Speaker 3: nigga that behind the back rep around hit the layup,
18:44
Speaker 3: looked at me, said you.
18:44
Speaker 1: Might want to get in the game.
18:45
Speaker 3: Niggah ship This old nigga can't guard me. He wasn't
18:51
Speaker 3: saying it as like nigga, you can't fuck with me.
18:54
Speaker 3: He was saying it like, nigga, get him out the game.
18:56
Speaker 3: Show it's young niggas time.
18:57
Speaker 1: Like, but I was hurt.
18:59
Speaker 3: I'm going to It's like Josh Smith being asked he is.
19:02
Speaker 3: He was like, damn, h I know you want to play.
19:12
Speaker 1: You want to play for sure? John, you know you
19:19
Speaker 1: think you hum, yeah, you don't want to play.
19:22
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, but nah, you was cold, and
19:25
Speaker 3: I was like I was hating because you was playing,
19:27
Speaker 3: but I always respected you, Like no, this nigga is good,
19:30
Speaker 3: and I knew when it was time to play, you like,
19:32
Speaker 3: it's nigga liable to get fifty, So let me try
19:35
Speaker 3: to go at him first because I know this nigga
19:37
Speaker 3: about to get his ship off. Nigga like he gonna
19:39
Speaker 3: go at you. So if we try to like at
19:41
Speaker 3: least try to give him some foul trouble or something
19:42
Speaker 3: because he getting his fifty or twenty five thirty. I
19:45
Speaker 3: was like, damn, and I still thank you to this
19:47
Speaker 3: day that you want to leave Milwaukee because he the
19:51
Speaker 3: reason I got some money.
19:54
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I say, yeah, you can't do no wrong.
19:57
Speaker 1: You can't do because they talk about it. They offered me,
20:00
Speaker 1: and then I was like and I had to go
20:02
Speaker 1: because they wanted me to go meet Bud. I'm like,
20:05
Speaker 1: I'm not finna go go to Atlanta and meet him,
20:07
Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Like you know, just young me,
20:09
Speaker 1: you know young like you know, we ain't and then
20:12
Speaker 1: and then they offered you. And then that's when I
20:13
Speaker 1: went to Detroit. Yeah, that's what I was like, because
20:16
Speaker 1: they want Atlanta wanted me, and I was like, I'm
20:17
Speaker 1: ain't going to Atlanta, Like I just wasn't working with it.
20:20
Speaker 1: I was like, I appreciate this snake for the rest
20:22
Speaker 1: of my life.
20:23
Speaker 3: I'm not starting back.
20:24
Speaker 1: I was like, he's not signing bag.
20:26
Speaker 3: I'm sitting at the crib because Atlanta offered me like
20:29
Speaker 3: four year twenty four and they just gave Kyle Korver
20:32
Speaker 3: like four year twenty eight.
20:33
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, y'all fucking kidding me.
20:35
Speaker 3: I'm like walking, yeah, y'all playing for real, bro. And
20:40
Speaker 3: then he was like, I don't know what they offered you,
20:42
Speaker 3: but you turned it down. I'm like, damn, Like I
20:46
Speaker 3: thought you was gonna get Like everybody was like, I'm like,
20:49
Speaker 3: Jenny's getting that like Stephan tomorrow, I gonna get the same.
20:53
Speaker 3: And you left, and I'm like, damn. They called me said,
20:56
Speaker 3: I love this nigg the rest of my life.
20:59
Speaker 1: I need this bad now. But what's crazy is, you know,
21:02
Speaker 1: like going back to that situation, it's like, you know,
21:04
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I left my agent, Bill Duffie,
21:07
Speaker 1: because he didn't tell me that they had Milwaukee had
21:10
Speaker 1: offered me. Milwaukee had Milwaukee So so the beginning of
21:13
Speaker 1: that year, right before that year, Milwaukee had offered me
21:16
Speaker 1: forty for four right, and my agent didn't tell me.
21:20
Speaker 1: So so what happened was and my agent didn't tell me,
21:23
Speaker 1: and then the GM Jim at the time, what's my god?
21:30
Speaker 1: He told John Hammond, Right, John Hemmant, he told uh,
21:33
Speaker 1: he told my unarmed rap. He was like, man, can
21:34
Speaker 1: you believe this kid didn't take forty for four. I'm like,
21:37
Speaker 1: and I had no idea that they had offered me,
21:39
Speaker 1: so then come so then come back. My agent was
21:41
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, uh he was like, yeah, I
21:43
Speaker 1: don't think forty for four is it, like, you know,
21:45
Speaker 1: we should go for the max max max. So my
21:47
Speaker 1: mom and him was pushing the max, and you know,
21:50
Speaker 1: it kind of fucked my situation, my relationship with my
21:52
Speaker 1: mom too, ad agent, because it was like, well, y'all
21:55
Speaker 1: doing shit behind my back and I don't even know.
21:57
Speaker 1: So I didn't sign going into I'm playing the game
22:00
Speaker 1: and it was too late to sign, so I had
22:01
Speaker 1: to play that whole year in Milwaukee without being uh
22:06
Speaker 1: you know, you know, without I wanted to resign. So
22:08
Speaker 1: that's why the situation looked so bad when I left,
22:10
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, I wanted to sign, but it
22:12
Speaker 1: was too late for me to sign because I didn't
22:14
Speaker 1: know they offered me.
22:15
Speaker 3: So I had got fucked OVERMN. So yeah, that was
22:18
Speaker 3: my big that they helped me.
22:20
Speaker 1: And I mean I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
22:23
Speaker 1: but but you know that that's just yeah, that was
22:26
Speaker 1: just like the code of the game, like you know,
22:27
Speaker 1: and I was speaking to the rising stars of the
22:29
Speaker 1: day kids about like life and you know, situations and
22:33
Speaker 1: the people that surround you. You know, you gotta you know,
22:35
Speaker 1: you gotta uh you know, watch yous around you. You know,
22:38
Speaker 1: no matter if it's your mom, it's your dad, is
22:40
Speaker 1: your agent, anybody like you gotta make sure they're really
22:42
Speaker 1: there for you and care for you. And you know, younger,
22:46
Speaker 1: my younger career didn't really have good people around me.
22:48
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying my agent wasn't good or people.
22:51
Speaker 1: It's just things that they didn't tell me. Like I
22:53
Speaker 1: like to be be honest with me, like I'm gonna
22:55
Speaker 1: take it how it is. But when you don't tell me,
22:58
Speaker 1: then you know, then I gotta act because you know
23:00
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, then I gotta act out.
23:01
Speaker 3: There was no reason for you to leave Milwaukee because
23:04
Speaker 3: you was like, yeah, yeah, but they offered me.
23:06
Speaker 1: But yeah, they offered me. That's why I was confused.
23:08
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. I was like, fuck it offer
23:11
Speaker 1: she I saw that so fast. He said, what curse
23:17
Speaker 1: of great? But nah, but when you did that, you
23:21
Speaker 1: went to Detroit.
23:22
Speaker 3: And we're gonna get back to you being in Milwaukee
23:24
Speaker 3: and how he was killing because I know you went
23:26
Speaker 3: to Detroit after that, but you was killing Detroit too.
23:28
Speaker 1: But I want us to go back to Milwaukee, mama.
23:30
Speaker 3: Fact I won't go even further back, like you not
23:32
Speaker 3: even going to college, Like what made you take that route?
23:37
Speaker 3: Like fucking You're supposed to go to Arizona and you're like, nah,
23:40
Speaker 3: well I couldn't pass that, sat. It's a lot of
23:43
Speaker 3: like that crazy They don't gotta do that, shi it
23:45
Speaker 3: no more.
23:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's probably because of you. Ship come from you.
23:51
Speaker 1: Brandon is demnit the soldier boy. But no, like I mean,
23:59
Speaker 1: it wasn't that because pass it. They flagged my my
24:01
Speaker 1: score twice. So I had took it in the summertime, right,
24:06
Speaker 1: so so I'm out of school. I had to take
24:08
Speaker 1: it again, and I took it and then they flagged it. Right,
24:11
Speaker 1: So I'm in the summer and I'm just like trying
24:13
Speaker 1: to figure out my life. Like you know, I'm eighteen,
24:15
Speaker 1: number one player in the country, and I don't have
24:17
Speaker 1: nowhere to go, damn, Like I have nowhere, I can't
24:19
Speaker 1: I can't go to summer school at Arizona. Luke Olson
24:23
Speaker 1: just retired. Jeral Bay jeral Bayles said that he's leaving.
24:26
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the hell I'm finna do, right, So,
24:30
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just sitting I'm sitting in the car
24:32
Speaker 1: in traffic with my mom broke. We broke, like poor
24:35
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, you know, And Sonny Bacarel
24:39
Speaker 1: goes on the phone and he's like, yoa, I don't
24:40
Speaker 1: understand why kids just don't sit out for a year,
24:42
Speaker 1: train or go overseas. So I'm just like, well, damn,
24:45
Speaker 1: like you know, shait go over seas, Like you know,
24:48
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can play, you know. You know,
24:49
Speaker 1: I'll start going to YouTube looking at that video with
24:51
Speaker 1: him fighting and like I don't know what different. I'm like,
24:56
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, like you niggas might want
24:58
Speaker 1: to take off, like you know. So now I asked
25:01
Speaker 1: my coach Steve Smith. I was like, yo, do you
25:04
Speaker 1: think I can play? He was like, hell, yeah, you
25:05
Speaker 1: can play over there, Like this is gonna be good
25:07
Speaker 1: for you easy. So he was. He was one of
25:09
Speaker 1: the persons that gave me the confidence. And then I
25:11
Speaker 1: called Sonny and you know, for for youngins two going
25:14
Speaker 1: out there, Uh, you know that one something in life
25:16
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to pick up the phone and call
25:18
Speaker 1: uh people when you want something in life. So you know,
25:21
Speaker 1: I called Sonny. You know he was like hell, yeah,
25:24
Speaker 1: let's do this. You know, did my background check and everything,
25:27
Speaker 1: and then we went to Vegas in two weeks and
25:30
Speaker 1: I got signed. So so this was like, this was
25:33
Speaker 1: like all in a two week of span. Like I'm
25:36
Speaker 1: I'm in the house stressing out, like in my room,
25:38
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And you know, I'm just like, bro,
25:41
Speaker 1: I'm about to be a failure, Like I'm about to
25:43
Speaker 1: be one of them, you know, Lenny Cooks or whatever
25:46
Speaker 1: it is like, you know, just those guys and Sonny call,
25:49
Speaker 1: make the phone call. Then next thing you know, I signed,
25:51
Speaker 1: I signed a contract in Rome, uh for a team
25:54
Speaker 1: in room. And then I signed a contract with and Darmer. Well, like,
25:57
Speaker 1: what's that like? The level month all in the span
26:01
Speaker 1: of three weeks.
26:02
Speaker 3: What it's like being that guy? Like we see Steph
26:04
Speaker 3: Curry got under Armer. Now yeah he's the big but
26:07
Speaker 3: you popped that ship on ere Yeah what was that like?
26:10
Speaker 3: Because I remember I used to look.
26:11
Speaker 1: At your shoes. I was like, man, it's no way
26:13
Speaker 1: he liked them. Ship. Yeah, I mean it was different.
26:17
Speaker 1: You know, I just felt like my route has always
26:19
Speaker 1: been different, always felt like everything has been a challenge
26:23
Speaker 1: for a risk. So it was another risk, another challenge
26:25
Speaker 1: that I was taking, you know, me tearing my achilles
26:29
Speaker 1: of course in the shoes and things like that. You know,
26:32
Speaker 1: I just saw West Worldwide West the other day. You know,
26:36
Speaker 1: he gave me some advice to the long time ago
26:38
Speaker 1: when I had toward my achilles. He was like, you know,
26:40
Speaker 1: an armor they owe you, like you know that you
26:42
Speaker 1: should be signing a lifetime deal with him just because
26:45
Speaker 1: of what you started and what you built. And now
26:49
Speaker 1: that I'm working back with him, it's just like, you know,
26:51
Speaker 1: everything's been full circle for me. So it's like now
26:53
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it like ship, I'm in the I'm
26:55
Speaker 1: in the moment where I could get a lifetime deal
26:57
Speaker 1: with under They do like you know, so it's great,
27:00
Speaker 1: Like the journey of life has been great for me,
27:02
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's a blessing. I have a lot
27:04
Speaker 1: of gratitude and you know, I can't ask, you know,
27:08
Speaker 1: I can't thank God.
27:09
Speaker 3: You know.
27:14
Speaker 1: What's crazy is you sound with under Armer. I went
27:17
Speaker 1: with Nike.
27:18
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, it's getting all this money, right, and
27:20
Speaker 3: then I've seen Kimber Kimball coming under army.
27:23
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I did, hey, agent, you give
27:26
Speaker 1: me on under armer. I put them shoes on.
27:29
Speaker 3: I said, these niggas got some good ass ankles, because
27:33
Speaker 3: these ain't gonna work for tigun work for me. These
27:38
Speaker 3: niggas are special. I knew you and Kimba was different. Boy,
27:41
Speaker 3: the way y'all was cutting the shit work for me.
27:43
Speaker 3: I said, I need some I need something a little starty.
27:45
Speaker 3: But I used to like how y'all came with y'all shoes.
27:48
Speaker 3: Many had every colorway.
27:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to treat y'all good, So it's it's
27:51
Speaker 1: dumblest man. Chryston made a lot of things happened during
27:54
Speaker 1: that time. I mean he was with Cray Brand now,
27:56
Speaker 1: but Chris Stone was really the force of everything. He
27:59
Speaker 1: was like whatever y'all want. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
28:01
Speaker 1: It was like whatever we wanted. So we were we
28:03
Speaker 1: were basically just creating things like doing the lockout I had.
28:07
Speaker 1: You know, Christ made sure that I had an internship job.
28:10
Speaker 1: That's how I got into passion because I was in there.
28:13
Speaker 1: I was in there creating my own shoes and different things.
28:16
Speaker 1: So I was able to see how a business was
28:18
Speaker 1: supposed to be run and everything like making merch and everything.
28:22
Speaker 1: So do it right like that eleven. That twenty eleven
28:25
Speaker 1: lockout was special and gave us some of the best
28:28
Speaker 1: basketball ball time.
28:29
Speaker 2: The Lockout program runs with some of the best basketball
28:32
Speaker 2: time yours reservice.
28:33
Speaker 3: The other day, I had a oh yeah, I did
28:36
Speaker 3: a moment in the locker going to John wall. Yeah,
28:38
Speaker 3: we had a little moment.
28:39
Speaker 1: Mine just resurface to Josh Shelby. Oh, y'all had a
28:43
Speaker 1: moment and yeah, Josh the fee. Yeah, shout out to
28:50
Speaker 1: Josh Shelby. Bro. We adin't fun each other when I
28:52
Speaker 1: first song because because it was like, you know, like
28:55
Speaker 1: that Hooper moment, you know when you look at somebody
28:56
Speaker 1: like look up and down out here. It was like that.
28:59
Speaker 1: But nah, sho be more.
29:01
Speaker 2: I always wanted to, Like you said, you're pioneered so
29:02
Speaker 2: many things of basketball, especially for both of the other
29:04
Speaker 2: ways y'all play. If y'all could play in y'all problem
29:07
Speaker 2: like in today's NBA, especially ways you can market yourself,
29:10
Speaker 2: especially way like with the fashion the way you just
29:12
Speaker 2: how you went period, it would be so crazy, Like
29:14
Speaker 2: if you would be able to take over like under
29:16
Speaker 2: armor handle and then play in the game, like you
29:18
Speaker 2: feel like you could just grow your brain even more
29:20
Speaker 2: now the way that they encourage players to have their
29:22
Speaker 2: own brands now because they kind of discouraged it.
29:23
Speaker 1: Back then on the low. Yeah, I mean I feel
29:26
Speaker 1: like to me, I was ahead of my time, Like
29:27
Speaker 1: I came in to the league fucking gumby fucking high
29:30
Speaker 1: top fade Louis backpack. But today, I feel like if
29:39
Speaker 1: we played today, they would hate us because we wouldn't
29:42
Speaker 1: need the NBA, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
29:45
Speaker 1: we needed the NBA for marketing. Now you can market yourself,
29:48
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. We would be on
29:49
Speaker 1: a part like you would have your podcast, right, you
29:51
Speaker 1: would have other things in life to where you wouldn't
29:53
Speaker 1: need like you could just market yourself and the money
29:56
Speaker 1: of course, I mean think about I mean now they're
29:57
Speaker 1: getting I mean, should we be getting eighty million there?
30:00
Speaker 1: Like imagine what we would be doing. So today, I
30:03
Speaker 1: think they would hate us because we wouldn't because we
30:06
Speaker 1: would be like like because we wouldn't need them, like
30:09
Speaker 1: like you know, like some of the stuff that we
30:11
Speaker 1: needed back then, we wouldn't need the NBA. We could
30:13
Speaker 1: just do ourselves. That's real.
30:15
Speaker 4: Can we speak on that fifty five point game though,
30:18
Speaker 4: but do you remember that day from start to finish
30:20
Speaker 4: in Milwaukee?
30:22
Speaker 1: Uh? The thing about fifty five people be forgetting I
30:26
Speaker 1: didn't score in the first quarter, so they did a
30:28
Speaker 1: shit in three quarters. Yeah shit, So I didn't score
30:32
Speaker 1: in the first quarter at all. I went zero for
30:34
Speaker 1: five and scouts pulled me out. He was like, you
30:35
Speaker 1: ain't ready to play. He's like, you ain't ready to play,
30:38
Speaker 1: Like one of the scouts was on me every fucking day,
30:41
Speaker 1: broth scout scouts because you know, he helped me, you know,
30:46
Speaker 1: especially not having a father figure in my life, like
30:48
Speaker 1: you know, your first your first coach, and your first
30:51
Speaker 1: you know everything in the league, like you want to
30:53
Speaker 1: go well. So like he was that guy that was
30:55
Speaker 1: there for me that that I needed to hear humble
30:58
Speaker 1: me and also let me know like you're not as
31:00
Speaker 1: that you think you like, you know that that that
31:02
Speaker 1: type of humbleness that I needed. But man, yeah, he
31:05
Speaker 1: took me out the game, like you ain't ready to play.
31:08
Speaker 1: Come back in there. He was like, hope, you're ready
31:10
Speaker 1: to play now, like you know, just always on me.
31:12
Speaker 1: But fifty five game. I just remember going to Denny's
31:14
Speaker 1: the next morning, went ton after scoring fifty five. Yeah,
31:18
Speaker 1: I mean under I'm my budget wasn't like that.
31:22
Speaker 6: Like Thatckers from the seven went to the next day
31:29
Speaker 6: and then reading the newspaper with myself and it was
31:31
Speaker 6: cool though I was I was still young.
31:33
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't on no fancy. I was nineteen man,
31:36
Speaker 1: so you know, I was just like, let's go to Denny's,
31:38
Speaker 1: I hop or something like.
31:39
Speaker 3: Man, I remember you scoring at fifty five and the
31:42
Speaker 3: next day I was at home and I seen you
31:43
Speaker 3: do ESPN like you had the ESPN maybe a day
31:46
Speaker 3: or two later or day maybe the next day, and
31:49
Speaker 3: I just remember watching now I was like, this motherfucker
31:51
Speaker 3: really scored fifty five points. Like I was sitting there
31:54
Speaker 3: thinking like this nigga gone like he's the one.
31:58
Speaker 1: Like it was amazing.
31:59
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, they blew that ship up. And the
32:01
Speaker 3: way you went at another rookie was just Steph y'all
32:05
Speaker 3: was having a moment. But when you started, I'm like, damn,
32:07
Speaker 3: ain't it kind of crazy to see like like you're
32:11
Speaker 3: playing against Steph at that time and see where he
32:13
Speaker 3: is now. I tell everybody, like, this shit kind of
32:16
Speaker 3: real because I didn't see that.
32:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but you know, to be honest, you know,
32:21
Speaker 1: it's all about you know, I'm gonna tell you know,
32:23
Speaker 1: just for all the youngins, you know, it's all about
32:25
Speaker 1: the people you have around you. That's a fact. You know.
32:27
Speaker 1: Steph has you know, he has his wife, he has
32:29
Speaker 1: good people. You know, he has you know, he has
32:31
Speaker 1: a foundation. I didn't have a foundation. You know. I
32:34
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out my foundation when I was
32:36
Speaker 1: in the league, and it hurt me because instead of
32:38
Speaker 1: focusing on basketball, I was focused on foundation and trying
32:41
Speaker 1: to make everybody else around me happy when I should
32:43
Speaker 1: have been telling everybody no I can relate to. So
32:46
Speaker 1: you know that that's why, you know, I feel like
32:48
Speaker 1: in basketball, you know, it's not just you know, everybody
32:51
Speaker 1: works hard, everybody got the talent, but it's all about
32:53
Speaker 1: the people you have around you too. And at the
32:57
Speaker 1: beginning of my career, the people that had around me
32:59
Speaker 1: that was I was more. If I paid attention and
33:03
Speaker 1: knew what was around me, I probably have had a
33:06
Speaker 1: better career. Like you know, things would have happened for
33:08
Speaker 1: me better.
33:09
Speaker 3: Now you, I feel like people don't give you enough
33:12
Speaker 3: credit because to me, you were like one of the
33:14
Speaker 3: first guards I've seen that was scoring. Like you've always
33:18
Speaker 3: been a really good pastor. I watched your game since
33:20
Speaker 3: it was high school, so I know you always like
33:22
Speaker 3: you was a pastor first, like you used to throw
33:24
Speaker 3: hello dimes. But like when I seen you become like
33:27
Speaker 3: a scorer, like you were scoring and ship and like
33:30
Speaker 3: Nick Vann next on them to always tell me like
33:32
Speaker 3: it's about making your other teammates better, I'm like, but
33:34
Speaker 3: this little motherfuckering Milwaukee.
33:35
Speaker 1: Out there, like I keep talking to me about passing
33:39
Speaker 1: the fucking joke and he's fucking killing. But Nick Man
33:43
Speaker 1: was a scorer, That's what I'm saying. You ain't watching
33:46
Speaker 1: him like killing.
33:47
Speaker 3: Luke written that are passing to him like seeing this
33:51
Speaker 3: ship and he was like, man, it ain't going that
33:53
Speaker 3: he get to do that for his team. And I
33:55
Speaker 3: used to be like, man, I feel like you in
33:59
Speaker 3: this league right now will be phenomenal like you would be. Ah,
34:03
Speaker 3: you already got the fashion of brown, you said the
34:05
Speaker 3: gun beyall. You already got the.
34:07
Speaker 1: Brand and ship. But like you as a player in
34:09
Speaker 1: this league.
34:10
Speaker 4: Broll you Anthony Edward personal bringing on the court, Bro, you.
34:15
Speaker 1: Would have probably averaged twenty eight twenty seven. But you
34:19
Speaker 1: got to bike yourself up too though. Bro, Like your
34:21
Speaker 1: situation Atlanta was perfect for you. Like you know, you're
34:23
Speaker 1: like like you, I mean, you became an All Star. Yeah,
34:27
Speaker 1: but I want to shoot that Look.
34:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I came out of high school, I mean college,
34:32
Speaker 3: I was a scorer, Like I averaged them at twenty
34:34
Speaker 3: points in college. So I'm like, I want to shoot.
34:36
Speaker 3: When I got to Atlanta, them nigga said, go to
34:38
Speaker 3: the corner. Nigga gives Joe Jamal rightfully, So that great score, phenomenal,
34:44
Speaker 3: But that is not.
34:44
Speaker 1: What I wanted to do. It was like I don't
34:46
Speaker 1: take it on the court.
34:47
Speaker 3: You like, all right, I'm gonna play defense and I'm
34:49
Speaker 3: gonna run to the corner. But like I used to
34:52
Speaker 3: like look at y'all and be like I want to
34:53
Speaker 3: do that. Like and but that you earned that ship.
34:57
Speaker 1: You kill.
34:57
Speaker 3: You did your ship like you had fifty Like niggas
35:01
Speaker 3: knew you was one of them, but I was. I
35:03
Speaker 3: used to be sitting there like the nigga fifty came.
35:05
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think the whole situation came out
35:07
Speaker 1: of know it because remember I didn't play at all
35:09
Speaker 1: the year before in Rome, so I didn't I was
35:12
Speaker 1: just more on some like revenge and just like some
35:15
Speaker 1: dark like just hostile ship. Like I got the workout
35:19
Speaker 1: because I was like because I was so mad because
35:21
Speaker 1: first of all, I was getting killed every day. Jay
35:23
Speaker 1: billis you know ESPN. They was just like, you know,
35:27
Speaker 1: you know who this kid think he is going not
35:29
Speaker 1: skipping college, like you know, he he doesn't need an education.
35:32
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I'm getting the best education overseas.
35:35
Speaker 1: I'm learning life, like you know what I'm saying, learning
35:37
Speaker 1: the value of life and like what it really you
35:40
Speaker 1: know what life really means. So I don't feel like
35:43
Speaker 1: I've missed anything out of college besides you know, women
35:46
Speaker 1: and partying. And it got it got great, it got
35:49
Speaker 1: great letter, you know. But yeah, now, but I mean,
35:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonn let DJ do his thing.
35:58
Speaker 3: But I was gonna say about our workouts, like going
36:02
Speaker 3: into the draft, you was crazy, motherfucker. You was calling
36:05
Speaker 3: people out like you ain't care. So I say, everybody
36:09
Speaker 3: always get me slack for messing with Ricky Ruby on
36:11
Speaker 3: our podcast. I pushed him, I did some shit whatever,
36:13
Speaker 3: don't worry about that. I like Ricky, but you called
36:15
Speaker 3: him out and was like, Ricky ain't like that. And
36:18
Speaker 3: I remember being in that workout. Before the workout came,
36:21
Speaker 3: I got described the whole thing to everybody that you
36:23
Speaker 3: came in with the Louie book bag. I'm from the
36:26
Speaker 3: West Side, I knew, I knew nothing about Louis Vaton
36:29
Speaker 3: and you came walking in and you put the bag down,
36:33
Speaker 3: and I never forget Saidamn, you got that Louie.
36:37
Speaker 1: Damn I supposed to know what that is. You know
36:38
Speaker 1: what I mean?
36:39
Speaker 3: You like, yeah, said something like five hundred. I said, damn,
36:44
Speaker 3: got five hundred. I'm thinking five hundred dollars, nigson one
36:47
Speaker 3: hundred thousand. I'm like, got five unred thousand dollars before
36:49
Speaker 3: like shit, what the fuck is this nigga?
36:53
Speaker 1: Like this nigga not a real person.
36:55
Speaker 3: So you start talking going around like, bro, you better
36:57
Speaker 3: than Ricky, you better than Ricky, You better than Ricky.
36:59
Speaker 1: I'm telling all your niggas is better than Ricky. And
37:01
Speaker 1: he pointed at me, damn better than staying in this dres.
37:08
Speaker 1: I was going back to school.
37:09
Speaker 3: I saw the guy he was. I swore to God,
37:11
Speaker 3: you better than better. We did the workout, Tyrey Gavins
37:14
Speaker 3: had a good workout. Boom, go to another workout in
37:17
Speaker 3: Milwaukee's when I knew he was getting picked by the Bucks.
37:20
Speaker 3: He doing his pick and roll.
37:21
Speaker 1: Shit.
37:21
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen a picking roll in my life.
37:23
Speaker 3: I ain't do that in college. That I so, this
37:26
Speaker 3: nigga carving us up, making us look stupid. Me and
37:28
Speaker 3: Tyree gave we stopped guarding nigga. I looked at that
37:31
Speaker 3: gardon nigga, that nigga doing. But I knew he was
37:33
Speaker 3: getting picked by the Bucks. I knew you was different
37:35
Speaker 3: when you going overseas, having a chance to learn the
37:38
Speaker 3: game play like that, I.
37:39
Speaker 1: Knew you was different. I was like, he gonna be
37:41
Speaker 1: good in this league. Yeah, I mean that that year
37:44
Speaker 1: in Europe was just me to mature and see what
37:46
Speaker 1: a pro is like, see see what it takes to
37:48
Speaker 1: be a pro. Right. So I was around Alan Ray
37:51
Speaker 1: Andre Hutson. I had a bunch of great you know
37:54
Speaker 1: guys that played you know in the league or was
37:56
Speaker 1: just from America. So you know, that was just a
37:59
Speaker 1: year of me, you know, just learning how to be
38:02
Speaker 1: an adult, how to be a pro, you know, show
38:04
Speaker 1: up on time and you know, do things the right way.
38:07
Speaker 1: So that year was just a year of learning. So
38:10
Speaker 1: that's why I always say, like when I'm done, when
38:13
Speaker 1: tough crowd blows up and I'm out of here, I'm
38:15
Speaker 1: moving back to Italy. Damn yeah. Like I'm moving back
38:18
Speaker 1: to Rome because that's where fashion. You know, that's where
38:21
Speaker 1: I learned about fashion and you know, just about myself
38:24
Speaker 1: in life. So you know, I would love to take
38:26
Speaker 1: my family and just live my rom when it's all
38:28
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38:33
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah,