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Almost Famous In Depth: Benoit Beausejour-Savard · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth. Hey, guys,
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Speaker 1: welcome to an episode of Almost Famous in Depth. Today
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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking to Ben Wah, who Ben
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Speaker 1: and I got to know on Bachelor Winter Games and
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Speaker 1: then that you guys also got to know better on
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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and he is Claire Crawley's former fiance,
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Speaker 1: so this is the perfect time to have him on.
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Speaker 1: Welcome Ben Wah, Hey, Ben, Hi, guys, how are you doing?
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Speaker 1: We're good? How are you so? If you noticed, I didn't,
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Speaker 1: I didn't say your last name because it's impossibly challenging.
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Speaker 1: Can you please um say your last name for us.
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Speaker 1: I could app you out so it's boom say it
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Speaker 1: after me. Boom boom see sere. Wow, It's good thing
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Speaker 1: I didn't have friendship. There's more. Yeah Bill boom zou.
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Speaker 1: That's good looking guy. Can't have a name like that.
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Speaker 1: That just make sure you even better looking at that's
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Speaker 1: frustrating for the Higgins. Remember these nights in Vermont, right,
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Speaker 1: I do man? I do well. Hey, it's really good
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Speaker 1: to have you here. And uh and actually I obviously
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Speaker 1: want to bring you on for obvious reasons. One, you're
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Speaker 1: you're a friend of ours that we haven't got to
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Speaker 1: catch up within a while. And two, uh, you do
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Speaker 1: have a deep and and and fairly recent connection to
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Speaker 1: the current Bachelor atte. There's a ton of things we
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Speaker 1: want to find out about how you're feeling and what
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Speaker 1: you think of the season and how clear is being portrayed.
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Speaker 1: Uh So what better time to do it than right
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Speaker 1: now with this podcast? Um. I think actually to start
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Speaker 1: this whole thing, we should get a little background of
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Speaker 1: beIN wa like, how did you end up on Winter Games?
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Speaker 1: Where did you come from? What's your past history here?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Okay, so four years ago I was
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Speaker 1: I was in here in Montreal and the summer lady
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Speaker 1: came in and said, oh, we're doing a casting on
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Speaker 1: for Bachelorette Canada. So I was like, okay, what's this trick?
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a scam at first, so I
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Speaker 1: wasn't sure. Then I end up showing at the audition.
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Speaker 1: So and back in the days, and my English was
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Speaker 1: so bad. Trust me. I like, right now, it's not
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Speaker 1: not too bad, but it was so bad back in
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Speaker 1: the days. And I end up making good depression and
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Speaker 1: get that triinal call to go on batch red Canada.
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Speaker 1: There this is where I met Kevin that actually knows
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Speaker 1: also a bunch of dudes that and after you know,
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Speaker 1: in Canada there's not much after a batchel of batchelrette
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Speaker 1: usually it's pretty much over. So um, three years ago ish,
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Speaker 1: some producer from the USA called me and uh they
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Speaker 1: did They tell me that they wanted to meet me,
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Speaker 1: uh to go onto a show with you guys that
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Speaker 1: you went to games. So I end up going on
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Speaker 1: these and uh and right after there was Paradise not
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Speaker 1: too long after, which I shouldn't have gone. But okay,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna question you about that in a second. What
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Speaker 1: drove you to say? Okay, it's that first audition in Canada.
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Speaker 1: Had you had any serious relationships in the past, were
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Speaker 1: you getting out of a serious relationship? Tell us what
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Speaker 1: ben Wa was like in his twenties. Okay, So when
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Speaker 1: when I set first step in there, um, I was
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Speaker 1: like ending a relationship of six years where she uh
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Speaker 1: finally uh and because she betrayed my trust, let's just
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Speaker 1: say that. And so I was a bit broken. It's
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Speaker 1: been like a year that I was single and then
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Speaker 1: I decided to when not giving a shot on this
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Speaker 1: on this show, so I thought it was it would
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Speaker 1: be a good experience, and why not giving a shot
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Speaker 1: at love and maybe finding the right person for me?
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Speaker 1: Uh in that crazy journey that was about Canada. So
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Speaker 1: I didn't and I didn't. I don't regret it because
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Speaker 1: was it was a really cool experience. You got pretty
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Speaker 1: fund enough for you. It was it was it was
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Speaker 1: a back back on the back on dating scene in
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Speaker 1: front of the public. So it was so I I
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Speaker 1: end up being made top four. Uh and uh you
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Speaker 1: know the how given the last a little longer than
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Speaker 1: Ida than I did. But it was it was a
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Speaker 1: fun experience and you've been there then so and actually
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Speaker 1: also like Bachelor Bachelortte season, so so fun to travel
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Speaker 1: all these destinations and uh falling for someone like like
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Speaker 1: I did and like you. How was a Bachelor franchise
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Speaker 1: in Canada different than the Bachelor experiences you've had to
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Speaker 1: the US. So in Canada we don't have the Bachelor mansion.
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Speaker 1: This is the one interesting point. So uh, like the
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Speaker 1: night one was in Vancouver, but right after we flew
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Speaker 1: out directly to Jamaica, So like the traveling are did
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Speaker 1: this way? So this this is a tricky part where
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Speaker 1: I feel like everything looks more beautiful and you're, um,
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Speaker 1: you're not living with the other guys in the same mansion,
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Speaker 1: you're all at your separate would stay sweet early on.
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Speaker 1: So like you, yeah, it was. It was a little
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Speaker 1: different than that what we uh, what we'd seen in
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Speaker 1: any of the us. Would you say that that caused
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Speaker 1: less drama between the guys because you weren't living in
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Speaker 1: such close quarters. Uh, maybe a little of this, But
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Speaker 1: we were hanging out, like I would say at tongue times.
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Speaker 1: You know, there was during the day we were all together,
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Speaker 1: so I feel like we were sleeping better than what
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Speaker 1: we we experience on Winter Games. And you can tell
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Speaker 1: there was a bunch of dudes and the same. I
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Speaker 1: don't know about you girls, but for us, there was
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Speaker 1: like thirteen dudes in the same room. Some of them
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Speaker 1: were like snoring, some of them are farting during the night.
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Speaker 1: Was it was? It was so you end up on
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Speaker 1: this show and and one thing that I think, and
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Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, please disagree with me. Uh,
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Speaker 1: but you're you're you're a sensitive guy like you care,
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Speaker 1: you want to you want to find love deeply. Did
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Speaker 1: you fall in love with the Bachelorette during this Canadian
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Speaker 1: Bachelorette Jasmin, Yes, but I was I was falling for her,
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Speaker 1: like alreathing was Jasmine and I I felt for her.
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Speaker 1: Uh maybe too late uh in the process because some
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Speaker 1: of the guys were like, I don't feel I was
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Speaker 1: like as open as I was on other shows. Maybe
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Speaker 1: it was like a little barrier that I put in myself,
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Speaker 1: like like because of them the past relationship I was
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Speaker 1: I was before, but you know what, like uh like yeah,
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Speaker 1: there was some real feelings and I'm I'm a little
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Speaker 1: bit Uh. I don't know. I should have put myself
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Speaker 1: more out there to see if there was something for
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Speaker 1: snb end. But like, it happens, and I don't have
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Speaker 1: any regret about this. Canada loves the Bachelor franchise. You
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Speaker 1: guys get the American version and then you had your
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Speaker 1: own version with Jasmine, but it was basically a one off.
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Speaker 1: Why do you think that the show one produced in Canada,
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Speaker 1: like with Canadian only contestants. It just they don't seem
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Speaker 1: to continue doing it. Like I'm very confused why you
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Speaker 1: guys would be so obsessed with the American version and
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Speaker 1: yet it doesn't seem like it's a huge success. When
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Speaker 1: you do a Canadian version yourselves, it's like really good question.
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Speaker 1: Uh Like our season was I would say really good.
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Speaker 1: Like the ratings were good. Everything was was good. But
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Speaker 1: I feel like the the three batchelor in Canada tradition,
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Speaker 1: um and I feel like they were always uh picking
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Speaker 1: some random guys that were known, Like there was some
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Speaker 1: professional baseball player, uh, football player, but there wasn't like
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Speaker 1: a person known from the Bachelor franchise. I feel like
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Speaker 1: they would have have like had way more ratings in
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Speaker 1: these Bachelor shows. They would have big someone uh that
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Speaker 1: is that was known in the Bachelor franchise, like Catherine
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Speaker 1: Bristol and some other Canadians that were more um that
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Speaker 1: was more. Yeah, that would be uh make better television.
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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. So let's then fast
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Speaker 1: fast forward. Obviously we have the Bachelor at Canada. You
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Speaker 1: start to fall, you make it a long ways. I
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Speaker 1: remember then you coming on to Winter Games and everybody
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Speaker 1: was talking about this bin Wa that I think they
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Speaker 1: described you as the king of Montreal, that you knew
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Speaker 1: everybody in Montreal, that you're always uh you could always
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Speaker 1: show somebody a great time in Montreal. Um, so you
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Speaker 1: get asked to be on this Winter Game show. You
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Speaker 1: had hinted at it before to us. Uh, somebody from
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Speaker 1: the US called you. What made you say, Yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is what I want to do. I'm willing to risk
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Speaker 1: this again at a shot at love. Uh. Like when
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Speaker 1: they explained that concept of Winter Games, I think it
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Speaker 1: would it would be so fun, Like I was telling myself,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta be there, just like to
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Speaker 1: enjoy some nice time in the cabin with a bunch
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Speaker 1: of like good people and doing some competition, living all together.
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Speaker 1: I feel like that the concept was really really good
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Speaker 1: and like a big like a big thing. They were
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Speaker 1: supposed to go to do summer games this summer. Actually
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Speaker 1: it didn't happen because of COVID, but I was really interested.
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Speaker 1: I didn't give my answer yet, but they were approaching
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Speaker 1: me to do that. Oh interesting, very interesting. So let's
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Speaker 1: talk about that first moment that you saw Claire, because
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Speaker 1: I believe that you said it was something close to
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Speaker 1: love at first sight. Oh oh definitely, yes, Like when
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Speaker 1: I saw Clair, like you've seen it, like how she is,
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Speaker 1: she's so bubbly, and when I found attractive about her
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Speaker 1: is just like how like she enjoying every single moment.
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Speaker 1: I told her whenever there's like an issue or like
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Speaker 1: she wasn't even like performing on the on the on
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Speaker 1: the dates or the competition. She was always thinking it
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Speaker 1: the positive way. So that this is what attracts me
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Speaker 1: at first, Uh, like to earth so uh in the end, like,
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Speaker 1: obviously she's beautiful, but there's way more to that woman,
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Speaker 1: And I'm sad right now that they produced her don't
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Speaker 1: show that much of her, like her good side and
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Speaker 1: these like they concenterated more on the drama and stuff
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Speaker 1: like that. Well, it's interesting that you say that because
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Speaker 1: for anybody out there listening that didn't watch win her
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Speaker 1: games or doesn't know your backstory here. Uh, you obviously
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Speaker 1: said it was loving first sight with clear, you found
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Speaker 1: her bubbly, you pursued her. I mean I remember you,
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of having to work out it a
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Speaker 1: little bit um throughout this whole process. Well, ultimately, if
10:52
Speaker 1: we fast forward through the experience, because they don't know
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Speaker 1: if on the show much they showed your relationship. I
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Speaker 1: remember uh being at the Life uh show and kind
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Speaker 1: of being shocked at how it played out. Uh, for
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Speaker 1: anybod out there listening who he did not get to
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Speaker 1: watch that. Can you give a little backstory in details
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Speaker 1: of what was happening behind the scenes with you and
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Speaker 1: Claire ultimately leading up to what happened at the live show. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so like we we we kept through things like super private.
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Speaker 1: So on the show, there was a lot of things happening,
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Speaker 1: but I like when the the the show was was airing, uh,
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't like show a lot of the discussion, the
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Speaker 1: serious discussion that we were having. And I know she
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Speaker 1: was interesting and she kept telling me like she was
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Speaker 1: interesting into Christian the other guy, and I thought it
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Speaker 1: was okay. Um, so the whole process during the show,
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Speaker 1: she was telling me like, I'm interesting to that guys,
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Speaker 1: but they they didn't like show that on TV. So
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Speaker 1: that that that's the tricky part about this. People don't
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Speaker 1: didn't understand why she just like backslash at me and
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Speaker 1: just turned her back around. But at the end of
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Speaker 1: this she was to be more interested at that moment
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Speaker 1: into that guy. And this is why like we uh
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Speaker 1: we uh, I had to leave the show just to
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Speaker 1: leave her opportunity to find that person. Because I feel
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Speaker 1: like I was like being the the the like a
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Speaker 1: little like blocker. I was blocking her at some point
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Speaker 1: to find a relationship with him because she she didn't
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Speaker 1: want to feel bad like about me. So basically you
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Speaker 1: let her free. You're like, hey, if it's meant to
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Speaker 1: be with us, it could happen off the show right now.
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Speaker 1: I want her to explore what she's feeling at the moment. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because she told me like she was really more into
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Speaker 1: that guy, and uh, she she said, word for word,
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Speaker 1: we're not on the same date, on the same page
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Speaker 1: right now. So I do understand that I don't want
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Speaker 1: to like I wasn't interested into like other people. At
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Speaker 1: that point, I was telling myself, Okay, maybe I should
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Speaker 1: just go home and process this old thing because this
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Speaker 1: was a lot at that moment. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: be that that that guy that would stick around and
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Speaker 1: block her from finding that that person. So I was really, um,
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Speaker 1: I was like supporting her in finding happiness. So I was, um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is how I felt. So yes, this for Christian
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Speaker 1: was Christian was from Germany. They had this kind of
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Speaker 1: thing going that ultimately didn't go well, like that he
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Speaker 1: didn't no, he didn't go to the hot Something got
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Speaker 1: weird and it ended that relationship on Winter Games ended
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Speaker 1: before the show was over, and so that brings us
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Speaker 1: then to the moment where we have a live show
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Speaker 1: and Claire Crawley is sitting right next to me on
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Speaker 1: this live show. Uh, we're catching up about life and
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Speaker 1: whatever is happening between there. I had no clue what
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Speaker 1: was about to happen. Literally, man, I could never have
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Speaker 1: predicted this, this next event, but it was a big one.
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Speaker 1: But before we get to it, but while we're gonna
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Speaker 1: take one break, when we come back, we're gonna figure
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Speaker 1: out what happened on this live show and why and
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Speaker 1: what led up to it. We'll be back with the
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Speaker 1: Ben wah on the almost Famous In Depth podcast. Yeah, so,
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Speaker 1: ben Wa, I remember going on a trip with a
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Speaker 1: couple of the Bachelor Winter Games cast and we had
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Speaker 1: Claire on the phone and she was kind of alluding
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Speaker 1: to the fact that you guys were now talking and
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Speaker 1: you were in a good place that you would almost
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Speaker 1: consider yourselves exclusive dating. And then before I knew it,
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Speaker 1: I think it was like seven days later, you're on
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Speaker 1: your knee. So we have to know what happened in
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Speaker 1: between you leaving the show and the reunion show. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So what really happened is that, um, since like when
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Speaker 1: she came back home, I messaged her like iveryone just
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Speaker 1: want to say, like, hope everything is good for you.
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Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well. I hope everything is okay
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Speaker 1: all of this, and like I still want to get
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Speaker 1: in touch with you because like she shared a lot
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Speaker 1: of personal stuff and I care about her, like I
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Speaker 1: want her to be at so and then we start
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Speaker 1: like talking, and she gave me a phone call and
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Speaker 1: then we start talking face timing each and every day
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Speaker 1: we we were spending at least three hours on the
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Speaker 1: phone face timing and then we saw each other. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: that gives me a little anxiety attack. That's great time.
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Speaker 1: Oh I can't be on the phone all that's like
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Speaker 1: not my thing, like being on the like that's true love.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys did that. That's that's that shed
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Speaker 1: some light on this whole situation. I'm an in person
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Speaker 1: talker as well. Well, go ahead. Good. So, like we
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Speaker 1: were far from each other, so that was a solution.
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Speaker 1: But at one point, uh, we we we planned the trips.
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Speaker 1: I was going to see her in uh in um
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Speaker 1: in Sacramento and San Francisco and uh we have, we
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Speaker 1: have like a really really fun time. Uh. Finally we
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Speaker 1: went to l A. So we had we had like
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Speaker 1: a lot of time together. We spent the whole weekends together.
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Speaker 1: And it connects like the way we wanted so um
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Speaker 1: at the end of this uh and we we we
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Speaker 1: kept like talking to each other and then we've seen
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Speaker 1: each other and then it leads on to UM the
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Speaker 1: reunion show, which it was. It was super tricky for
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Speaker 1: producer because we were like in the sane uh v
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Speaker 1: I P room and we were kissing each other, and
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Speaker 1: Producer like, they just want to make like a big surprise,
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Speaker 1: so they want they don't want anybody of you seeing that.
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Speaker 1: So it was it was fun too to be like,
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Speaker 1: you know, like the little kids, Like we were kissing,
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Speaker 1: but we were like kind of far from each other.
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Speaker 1: We had to be far from each other to keep
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Speaker 1: the surprise. And what went into my mind I just
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Speaker 1: I just knew like I was so madly in love
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Speaker 1: with her and I wanted to pursue like a like
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Speaker 1: a long term relationship with her. This is why I
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Speaker 1: did what I did on the reunion And I don't
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Speaker 1: have any regret about that because it was it was
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Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart. Was it an impromptu decision? Like?
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Speaker 1: How far out did you decide that you were going
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Speaker 1: to propose? Uh, to be honest with you, maybe a
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Speaker 1: week before h yeah, a week before we we spent
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Speaker 1: some times in Eli area once again before the union,
17:23
Speaker 1: like I flew in and she flew in a little early,
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Speaker 1: so we got to spend some more time. I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: now this is it. I'm doing this. This is important
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Speaker 1: to know here because I don't think we've explicitly said
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Speaker 1: this yet. What we're talking about. This big event at
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Speaker 1: the live show is that you got down on one
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Speaker 1: knee and you proposed to clear at the live show.
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Speaker 1: And that's the part that was shocking. That's a big
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Speaker 1: moment um. And as actually just mentioned, it was thought
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Speaker 1: there you thought about it. I mean a week or
17:52
Speaker 1: you know, a month, whatever, there's no period of time,
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Speaker 1: but that is it went you thought about it. You
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Speaker 1: said this is the right thing for me. And then
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Speaker 1: she responded, she said, yes, um, what happens now? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Did you guys, how did you ever defined the relationship
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Speaker 1: for you calling each other boyfriend and girlfriend? Before? Uh?
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Speaker 1: But yes, I mean like we when I say I
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Speaker 1: love you to someone, and she replied back, Uh, it
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like, okay, are you my girlfriend
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Speaker 1: or you my like boyfriend. It doesn't have to be sad,
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Speaker 1: so like of course she was my girlfriend and I
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Speaker 1: was her boyfriend. But like these specific words meant a
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Speaker 1: lot to me and I'm sure like for everybody else hopefully. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so you said I love you. He said you exchanged
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Speaker 1: I love you is yeah, okay, yeah exactly so and
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Speaker 1: and she she said it back on stage once again
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Speaker 1: in front of the camera. I don't know what if
18:51
Speaker 1: you remember, but that was I remember. I was like,
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Speaker 1: what the heck? I think I looked at Ashley, I
18:57
Speaker 1: was like, did you expect this? Like where did this
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Speaker 1: come from? I had no idea that this was going
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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, no clue exactly, so uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: this this was what happened on on the stage, but like, uh,
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Speaker 1: this this whole day was like so overwhelming for me.
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Speaker 1: There was a lot of emotion. I was like on
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Speaker 1: my seats. I don't know if that you guys realized
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Speaker 1: that I was shaking, like my head with it, like
19:24
Speaker 1: my leg was shaking the whole entire I don't know,
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Speaker 1: at least we spent like four hours on stage and
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Speaker 1: we were last one to talk in front of the people,
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Speaker 1: so it was it was stressful. Did was she as
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Speaker 1: surprised as the rest of the audience was. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: because we talked about that before, not a lot of times,
19:45
Speaker 1: but we we were like, yeah, we get into the subject,
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Speaker 1: and uh, I was kind of having ants that she
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Speaker 1: would say yes, and of course, like that's what she did.
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Speaker 1: What were these hints? Oh? But like I don't know, Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know when when you when we were talking about that,
20:07
Speaker 1: I just feel like she was on the same page
20:10
Speaker 1: as I was. That she wanted like evolve into this
20:14
Speaker 1: for a relationship. So I mean, like, uh, sometimes it's
20:18
Speaker 1: just like a feeling I gut inside of you. That's
20:21
Speaker 1: just telling you, okay, know I think she's feeling it.
20:25
Speaker 1: So then, what was the first thing she said when
20:28
Speaker 1: you got off stage a private moment? I don't I
20:34
Speaker 1: don't remember. I think I blacked down that thing. I don't.
20:39
Speaker 1: I remember. We called like our families and stuff to
20:42
Speaker 1: announce like everything, But to be honest with you, I
20:46
Speaker 1: don't remember exact words when I got off the stage
20:49
Speaker 1: because like we were so happy and I remember we
20:53
Speaker 1: were all like hugging each other and like wishing or
20:58
Speaker 1: the best, like the best for and best for me.
21:01
Speaker 1: So uh, and you guys were part of it. So
21:04
Speaker 1: this is where things get really interesting to me because
21:06
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens next, and none of us
21:08
Speaker 1: got to watch this next season of life. In fact,
21:11
Speaker 1: one of the most disappointing things about this season was
21:13
Speaker 1: that none of us really knew what was happening, uh,
21:16
Speaker 1: in your relationship. So you step off the stage, Uh,
21:21
Speaker 1: walk us through this because there's no good questions that
21:23
Speaker 1: we can ask the leaders what happens then what goes wrong? Okay,
21:28
Speaker 1: So what happened is like, okay, this whole engagement. Um,
21:32
Speaker 1: I realized myself with time like right now, like they
21:37
Speaker 1: went too fast, Like I should have taken more times
21:39
Speaker 1: and should have like processed things more than I was,
21:43
Speaker 1: like overwhelmed by my feelings for her. Uh and I
21:45
Speaker 1: thought she felt the same way. So when we got
21:48
Speaker 1: back to reality, we've seen each other and stuff, and
21:51
Speaker 1: the more we were I would say talking because we
21:55
Speaker 1: always have like the best time together. Uh, like it
21:58
Speaker 1: was it was so fun and uh, it was so
22:01
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was so natural with her. Um,
22:05
Speaker 1: there was like yeah, I think it's the best word
22:06
Speaker 1: to describe it. Um. But when it comes like to
22:09
Speaker 1: a long term relationship, there was issues. And I'm not
22:13
Speaker 1: gonna give you like these details because these are private,
22:16
Speaker 1: but that was like, um, there there was We were
22:20
Speaker 1: so different as persons as uh maybe are like part
22:25
Speaker 1: of our values, uh, the way we see things in life. Um.
22:30
Speaker 1: So this was the breaking point. Well it wasn't like
22:33
Speaker 1: one thing, but it was like a few things that
22:35
Speaker 1: were bothering I think both of us, and we were
22:38
Speaker 1: just like, oh this, oh, this, this thing might not work,
22:44
Speaker 1: so uh we have to admit it, like I don't know,
22:47
Speaker 1: like a few months later that uh it wouldn't work.
22:51
Speaker 1: And distance didn't help at that time. Also because you
22:55
Speaker 1: were living together, you were in different cities. Yeah, And
22:58
Speaker 1: I was like I was applying on jobs h two
23:02
Speaker 1: seconds to San Francisco, which is now we're in and
23:05
Speaker 1: something away from Sacramento. And I was doing like a
23:09
Speaker 1: process to get a job over there and maybe to
23:11
Speaker 1: get a green card and to be moving there. So
23:15
Speaker 1: I had to ask, like ask myself questions, Okay, is
23:19
Speaker 1: this like the right thing to do right now? I
23:22
Speaker 1: don't know. And at that at that moment, like the
23:24
Speaker 1: answer I don't know was my ansertain maybe that we
23:28
Speaker 1: have to u to break off this uh this relationship.
23:34
Speaker 1: But you guys did you guys seem to be great
23:37
Speaker 1: now because there was footage that you even posted of
23:41
Speaker 1: you recording an episode of her season. Was it back
23:45
Speaker 1: in March that you recorded this? It was this exactly
23:50
Speaker 1: just before she was supposed to like her season was
23:53
Speaker 1: supposed to uh go on and the the shooting was
23:57
Speaker 1: supposed to uh to happen, so a week before so
24:00
Speaker 1: beginning of March. Um like she like she want to
24:04
Speaker 1: do a bio back, like you know, like I don't
24:06
Speaker 1: get it. I don't get this thing. But each and
24:09
Speaker 1: every Bachelor or Batchette, like you know, man, they didn't
24:12
Speaker 1: want for you, but like they present you like your
24:15
Speaker 1: backage Colorado doing some like maybe some planes of football
24:19
Speaker 1: with your friends and your family and they're just talking
24:22
Speaker 1: about you, oh saying, oh, Ben, you've been great, and
24:26
Speaker 1: uh this is like the bio back of Claire. She
24:28
Speaker 1: didn't want to get her family involved. She wanted to
24:31
Speaker 1: have like her friends and also my myself me uh
24:36
Speaker 1: to be part of it. So because we we kept
24:38
Speaker 1: like good friends since like over a year now like
24:41
Speaker 1: almost a year and a half. We're talking like like
24:45
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I would say, like one once
24:48
Speaker 1: a week, once every two weeks, but like, uh, we're
24:51
Speaker 1: still good friends after all of this, so uh I
24:56
Speaker 1: it just blow my mind out, the skipness all bio
24:58
Speaker 1: back part you like how we get to know Claire
25:01
Speaker 1: for people who haven't seen like winter Games on our
25:04
Speaker 1: season of Paradise and the show only like some of
25:08
Speaker 1: the footage from her season which one Pablo and the
25:12
Speaker 1: Paradise Park, so they didn't show it. So like that
25:14
Speaker 1: you filmed all this at La Quinta for her no
25:17
Speaker 1: in March before in Sacramento actually and then nothing got shown,
25:22
Speaker 1: so like not none of it was air because I
25:24
Speaker 1: don't remember this, but actually you obviously knew this somehow. Yeah,
25:27
Speaker 1: people were it was all the talk. Everyone was talking
25:31
Speaker 1: about how ben Wah was totally neglected from Claire's intro
25:37
Speaker 1: on episode one, and they were like, she was engaged
25:39
Speaker 1: to him, how can we talk and talk about him?
25:41
Speaker 1: And then you came out saying that you had did
25:44
Speaker 1: you did shoot something and that they cut it out.
25:46
Speaker 1: Is there any reason that you think a good reason
25:49
Speaker 1: that they would cut it out or do you think
25:50
Speaker 1: that they were just trying to focus on her being
25:53
Speaker 1: on the bigger shows? Uh? You know what, I had
25:56
Speaker 1: my own opinion about this whole production, right, great, So
26:01
Speaker 1: this is the time to share it. Thank you? Okay, Okay?
26:03
Speaker 1: So guys, uh like Bachelor, uh, Bachelor VA, It's it's
26:07
Speaker 1: a show. It's a business at first, y you know that?
26:11
Speaker 1: So I I think if they want their own story
26:14
Speaker 1: inline to make sense, they have to cut parts maybe
26:19
Speaker 1: that she might look better than what they want to
26:23
Speaker 1: to show to get the storylines like like straight. So
26:28
Speaker 1: what I I just have to say, Like the talk
26:31
Speaker 1: we had it was so funny, it was so refreshing,
26:34
Speaker 1: and I was hoping that they were gonna show this
26:37
Speaker 1: because it makes earth like, I don't know, like being
26:41
Speaker 1: like a normal normal person that like she has some
26:45
Speaker 1: good qualities. And right now, what what I what we've
26:48
Speaker 1: seen like it's only like drama part and there's not
26:53
Speaker 1: much of like serious stock to be you know, law
26:55
Speaker 1: on us with you guys this season I haven't seen
26:59
Speaker 1: except maybe you have Jason the first one on one day.
27:02
Speaker 1: There wasn't that much like serious talking there is a
27:05
Speaker 1: really deep person. She likes to get to know you
27:08
Speaker 1: on a like on a really deeper level, which is
27:11
Speaker 1: not showing at all. So I'm just thinking this, Yeah there,
27:17
Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, and I think that's fair. So,
27:19
Speaker 1: uh but while I really want to get in um
27:22
Speaker 1: to what you think of this season, I think it's
27:23
Speaker 1: important because you do have a real perspective about Claire
27:27
Speaker 1: that none of us have because you've been in an
27:30
Speaker 1: intimate relationship with her. Um So I'm assuming she had
27:35
Speaker 1: your blessing as the bachelorrette and like when you went
27:37
Speaker 1: to talk to her, you were just like completely supportive
27:40
Speaker 1: of this happening in her life, and you're ready for
27:42
Speaker 1: that for yourself. Okay, so now she starts to the
27:46
Speaker 1: Bachelorette and you just kind of hinted to it. You're
27:51
Speaker 1: a little frustrated with how Claire is being shown, or
27:55
Speaker 1: at least how this season is playing out. Why why
27:59
Speaker 1: do you think, um, there is so little depth to
28:04
Speaker 1: the season and why is there uh so many like
28:08
Speaker 1: kind of just like more contentious moments except obviously with Dale.
28:11
Speaker 1: Where do you think this is coming from? I feel
28:16
Speaker 1: like the the old story, like you know, they filmed
28:18
Speaker 1: that they show and after that they gotta make the
28:21
Speaker 1: everything's gotta make sense. So I feel like they're talking
28:24
Speaker 1: a lot about thels. But you know how producer are
28:27
Speaker 1: when they ask you questions, uh in I t m s.
28:31
Speaker 1: They want to get to know like specific stuff. So
28:33
Speaker 1: if they're asking always like questions about bal, of course
28:36
Speaker 1: she's gonna reply about Thel and they're gonna all gonna
28:38
Speaker 1: focus on this. I like, to me, it makes sense
28:43
Speaker 1: that she's talking a lot about the at the end
28:45
Speaker 1: of this, I'm pretty sure they asked some questions about
28:49
Speaker 1: other guys, but they don't. They don't that they don't
28:51
Speaker 1: show that far. So this is where I'm just a
28:54
Speaker 1: bit I would say, confused about how they they want
28:58
Speaker 1: to portray things. But I get it, like it's a
29:00
Speaker 1: show like the end is like with probably Dale, like
29:04
Speaker 1: we've seen so far and they brought in another batch Rende,
29:07
Speaker 1: so this whole thing to make sense. It's all about Dale,
29:10
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's more to it. And like a
29:13
Speaker 1: lot of people, like for example, like when she called
29:15
Speaker 1: him her fiance or something like that, A lot of
29:18
Speaker 1: people were telling me, Bubba Ben why I feel like
29:21
Speaker 1: they just cut up the ex fiance part and maybe
29:24
Speaker 1: they made some jokes about you and that was like
29:27
Speaker 1: not fair. So like there's no way she would have
29:30
Speaker 1: called him like at that moment or like fiance. There's
29:35
Speaker 1: like I know Claire and I know how she is,
29:37
Speaker 1: and she's really like, uh, like she why would she
29:41
Speaker 1: call him like her fiancing at that moment, especially at
29:44
Speaker 1: that in that part because she's just like walking and
29:48
Speaker 1: you can see like the back of her head, so
29:50
Speaker 1: you cannot really leave on their on their rips, on
29:53
Speaker 1: her lips. So it's it's it's weird a bit. This week,
29:58
Speaker 1: she also had some drama with Zach, so she she
30:03
Speaker 1: did wasn't vibe and Zack and then he kissed her
30:05
Speaker 1: and she felt like it was very awkward, and people
30:08
Speaker 1: the fandom really debated this moment back and forth. Knowing
30:12
Speaker 1: Claire better than any of us, probably, well, how do
30:16
Speaker 1: you think she why do you think she handled the
30:19
Speaker 1: situation the way she did? I just feel like the
30:24
Speaker 1: physical contact that Zack made with her, and I'm not
30:29
Speaker 1: talking about like the kids sort of like the smoothness
30:35
Speaker 1: of it, but I just I just think like the
30:38
Speaker 1: way he grabbed her, Uh, she was she was scre
30:42
Speaker 1: and I would never grabbed the women like this when
30:45
Speaker 1: she's just like there's like a confusion about the kiss
30:47
Speaker 1: and something like that. Just let it go, man, just
30:49
Speaker 1: like Okay, you're gonna have a second chance at the dinner.
30:52
Speaker 1: But you kept like on grabbing her right wait wait,
30:54
Speaker 1: And that for me that I was really aggressive from
30:58
Speaker 1: his part. So I'm sorry, Zach, but like maybe, uh,
31:02
Speaker 1: maybe if you were not like insisting that much, she
31:06
Speaker 1: would have liked went to dinner and you can have
31:09
Speaker 1: like some more champ but like, she has her past also, guys,
31:12
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind. And there's a lot of
31:14
Speaker 1: footures that you guys haven't maybe shown so uh and seen.
31:20
Speaker 1: So yeah, that makes sense. And I think that's kind
31:23
Speaker 1: of you know, she hinted at that during it and said, hey,
31:25
Speaker 1: I've had a pass and this just kind of like
31:27
Speaker 1: um triggered me or kind of brought back memories and
31:30
Speaker 1: that's why I'm reacting the way I am now. But
31:34
Speaker 1: while you take producers out of this for a second,
31:37
Speaker 1: mm m, and like just you know, we're watching Claire
31:42
Speaker 1: story and and most of the season's uh, they do
31:45
Speaker 1: play out in in a similar way or at least
31:48
Speaker 1: a storyline that is making sense to how this you know,
31:50
Speaker 1: the how the seasons playoffs. To take the process out
31:52
Speaker 1: it for a second, are you seeing Claire in this
31:55
Speaker 1: season or are you watching somebody that you don't even recognize? Uh,
32:01
Speaker 1: I would say, I this is not the Claire that
32:04
Speaker 1: I know. This is uh and I can I can
32:07
Speaker 1: feel like, like put put yourself into her shoes. I mean,
32:12
Speaker 1: you're you're doing Crowning quarantine in a resort. It's already
32:16
Speaker 1: like initials are a bit mind fun. You've been there,
32:19
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's a lot to manage. And
32:24
Speaker 1: I feel like at some point, maybe she was overwhelmed
32:27
Speaker 1: by all of this. Uh she she felt like super
32:30
Speaker 1: strong feelings with Dell and then this whole thing played out.
32:34
Speaker 1: But this is not the Claire that I used to know.
32:36
Speaker 1: But then again, a lot of things are happening in
32:39
Speaker 1: her life and uh like it's not easy for for her,
32:43
Speaker 1: especially like right now, but it wasn't back in the
32:46
Speaker 1: day being on the show. So yeah, there's a there's
32:50
Speaker 1: a little difference between the Claire that I like that
32:53
Speaker 1: was shown on TV than the Claire that I know
32:56
Speaker 1: in real life. So you then shocked that she felt
32:59
Speaker 1: so hard for Dale, like right away, Like, is this
33:03
Speaker 1: knowing her and knowing how she loves and knowing her
33:06
Speaker 1: desire for lover, you surprised that she was like all
33:09
Speaker 1: I set on Dale, Like, I feel like she's just
33:14
Speaker 1: so passionate, Like she knows what she wants and when
33:18
Speaker 1: she sees something. Uh, maybe like if the show like
33:21
Speaker 1: wouldn't brought Dale, I feel like she would be more,
33:25
Speaker 1: she would get to know more of the guys, but
33:27
Speaker 1: like she had a big crush on Dale, and she
33:30
Speaker 1: like at the beginning, she was still open to getting
33:33
Speaker 1: to know the other guys, but I feel like feelings
33:36
Speaker 1: were growing so fast for her in that situation. That's
33:39
Speaker 1: where she maybe got caught in uh, in those feelings
33:44
Speaker 1: with Dale's I actually, and I've talked about this a
33:46
Speaker 1: few times, but I've wondered through this season, if Dale
33:50
Speaker 1: wasn't there, if she would have the same reaction to
33:53
Speaker 1: somebody else that was there, Like, because just how much
33:55
Speaker 1: she wants to find love, how passionate she is, if
33:58
Speaker 1: her eyes had been set on one of these other guys,
34:01
Speaker 1: and because she just you know, she isn't made, which
34:03
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of us are. I don't
34:05
Speaker 1: think any of us are. But she hasn't made to
34:06
Speaker 1: date multiple people at one time, especially when she's feeling
34:09
Speaker 1: something for somebody. I know. Actually I've talked about this
34:11
Speaker 1: and it's something that we we've we've been curious about. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Uh.
34:16
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be it would have been
34:18
Speaker 1: a total different uh season if they wasn't there. But
34:23
Speaker 1: then again, like what can we do? I mean, like,
34:26
Speaker 1: she's really into the guy, and I just hope, like
34:30
Speaker 1: it's going to be the best decision that that she's
34:33
Speaker 1: ever made. But at least, like people want like real
34:38
Speaker 1: person on the show, So she has been real from
34:39
Speaker 1: the beginning. She's absolutely feelings for for him, So we
34:44
Speaker 1: cannot blame someone for like being true to themselves and
34:48
Speaker 1: not pretending on or faking other relationship. Uh. Like she's
34:53
Speaker 1: listening to her gut, she's listening to these feelings, and
34:57
Speaker 1: I mean like she she's she's still doing great. Ben,
35:01
Speaker 1: what um, we can assume at this point that she
35:03
Speaker 1: does leave the show and Tasia comes in to replace her.
35:08
Speaker 1: How do you think that decision came about? Knowing Claire?
35:10
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is her saying, like, you know,
35:12
Speaker 1: what this process isn't for me going off of what
35:15
Speaker 1: you and Ben just discussed, or do you think that
35:18
Speaker 1: something else happened. I feel like production they realized and
35:24
Speaker 1: I've read something about it. Um what was it? It
35:29
Speaker 1: was maybe Robert Mills that said that I don't wanna
35:31
Speaker 1: be wrong about this, but um, like at the point
35:35
Speaker 1: where she didn't give that rose on the group date
35:38
Speaker 1: and she was like really into Dale's production, they were
35:42
Speaker 1: they were looking for another bacherette. So I think like
35:46
Speaker 1: ultimately it was production that came at her and just
35:51
Speaker 1: like said, you know what, Claire, I feel you're not
35:54
Speaker 1: giving a fair chance really into Dale, so we want
35:57
Speaker 1: you to be happy. And they had like a common
36:01
Speaker 1: I would say, agreement on her maybe leaving the show,
36:05
Speaker 1: but I feel like she was like it wasn't like
36:09
Speaker 1: her ultimate decision. Have you discussed Have you discussed anything
36:15
Speaker 1: with her after she's finished filming? Uh? Yes, actually, like
36:20
Speaker 1: we we spoke two days ago or maybe yesterday, but
36:25
Speaker 1: she's not allowed to say anything because of the contracts.
36:28
Speaker 1: But I feel like this is a lot right now
36:32
Speaker 1: for her, So um, I'm I'm just being supportive and
36:39
Speaker 1: she's I'm not allowed to say anything but I don't.
36:43
Speaker 1: I think she's really happy on how the edit was turned,
36:48
Speaker 1: was was made um, but once again like, uh, it's
36:54
Speaker 1: what you signed for, so I guess like it's production,
36:57
Speaker 1: it's a business, and that's it. Now. We can't forget
37:03
Speaker 1: you in this process, right, somebody you loved you're watching
37:05
Speaker 1: on television. Yeah, and you're a great dude, a bigger
37:08
Speaker 1: man than me. How are you dealing with all this?
37:10
Speaker 1: What are your hopes in this? And how are you
37:12
Speaker 1: feeling watching this? I just hope, like I told her,
37:17
Speaker 1: like whoever you're gonna pick, I want to be able
37:21
Speaker 1: one day to meet that guy and just to shake hands,
37:23
Speaker 1: get to know that person and wish you the best
37:26
Speaker 1: of luck. And even though like it didn't work out
37:29
Speaker 1: between me and her, it's not it's it's it's gonna
37:33
Speaker 1: be a friendship forever. So I'm just I just hope
37:38
Speaker 1: at the end of this, when this is like all
37:40
Speaker 1: this roller coaster would would end for uh, that she
37:45
Speaker 1: she can find like some happiness with all of this
37:48
Speaker 1: and with the man of her dream. So this is
37:50
Speaker 1: what I'm wishing for, and I'm gonna support her and
37:55
Speaker 1: if she needs to talk, if she needs, like someone
37:57
Speaker 1: to uh to understand what she went True, I mean
38:01
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I went through this, uh this
38:04
Speaker 1: experience also so I can relate. Has Claire been as
38:10
Speaker 1: um supportive of you and other relationships as you've been
38:13
Speaker 1: to her, because it seems like you guys you really
38:16
Speaker 1: have been involved in each other's romantic lives as friends.
38:20
Speaker 1: So has there have you ever gone to her for
38:22
Speaker 1: girl advice? Uh? True? Actually, like we've we've getten touch
38:26
Speaker 1: and I've dated this some some women, and I was
38:32
Speaker 1: asking for advice. I was telling your like, oh, this
38:35
Speaker 1: is all going well, and and I was giving news
38:37
Speaker 1: about about this whole thing. Uh like of course it's
38:41
Speaker 1: not involving bachelor like on my side. So she's being supportive. Um,
38:48
Speaker 1: but we're still friends, so we're still like giving news
38:51
Speaker 1: about like what's happening, and if there's any advice she
38:54
Speaker 1: would she would help me out. I think this is awesome.
38:59
Speaker 1: I mean the way you guys are handling this. And
39:02
Speaker 1: that was a big question for me coming on. You know,
39:04
Speaker 1: we didn't know how you guys are as you know,
39:08
Speaker 1: as friends or if you even have a friendship, or
39:10
Speaker 1: a few guys are like the worst enemies that you know,
39:12
Speaker 1: but it's really cool to hear how supportive you are
39:14
Speaker 1: of um, the two of each other. So we're coming
39:18
Speaker 1: up now to another week. It could be you know,
39:21
Speaker 1: I think we're assuming that, you know, Claire does leave
39:24
Speaker 1: that Um there's a new Bachelor that comes in. Do
39:28
Speaker 1: you know? Do you do you can you even predict?
39:31
Speaker 1: Do we just kind of like it's Claire just gone?
39:33
Speaker 1: Or do we get to follow her story? Um? Do
39:36
Speaker 1: you hope that we follow her? Sort of like what's
39:38
Speaker 1: next in and Claire season of The Bachelor? At I
39:41
Speaker 1: feel like there's gonna be more like we all like
39:43
Speaker 1: heard some spoilers that she might be engaged to one guy,
39:47
Speaker 1: which most likely would be Dale Jason. Yeah, so of
39:54
Speaker 1: course they're they're gonna keep us in touch about like
39:56
Speaker 1: what's with the Claire has been wading through, and I
40:01
Speaker 1: think it would be like a to two season that
40:04
Speaker 1: at once at one point. So hopefully we're gonna see
40:07
Speaker 1: how it all unfold for the for these two, but like,
40:12
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be interesting to watch how
40:15
Speaker 1: it unfold for t Asia but also for Clear at
40:18
Speaker 1: the end of this because this is not like the
40:20
Speaker 1: end of her of Urn Dales know I like, I
40:25
Speaker 1: like what you may have previewed there for us. I agree,
40:28
Speaker 1: it would be very strange if they're just like, Okay,
40:30
Speaker 1: you two get off the cameras now. I do hope
40:33
Speaker 1: that they keep them around at least at La Quinta
40:35
Speaker 1: for a while and give us like ten minutes an
40:38
Speaker 1: episode about how their week has gone. He better leave
40:41
Speaker 1: with her, like he better, we hinted last week on
40:44
Speaker 1: the podcast and while like, uh, we had a guest
40:47
Speaker 1: on America and she had said, like, what if he
40:49
Speaker 1: doesn't go, Like what if he just does to stay
40:51
Speaker 1: and he wants to pursue Tasha. I was sitting after
40:54
Speaker 1: the podcast thinking about that comic because I had never
40:57
Speaker 1: even thought about that until she said it, and at
40:59
Speaker 1: the time and we all laughed because we're like, it'd
41:01
Speaker 1: be crazy, it's great TV. And I was like, that sucks. No,
41:04
Speaker 1: he better go with her, because if not, he has
41:07
Speaker 1: led that girl on the whole time and that's not fair.
41:10
Speaker 1: So like, I'm gonna hope and assume that Dale walks
41:14
Speaker 1: off this show with her as tatious steps in. He
41:17
Speaker 1: would be the biggest villain of all time with oh yeah, definitely,
41:24
Speaker 1: you know, no, I would I would be fist. We
41:27
Speaker 1: thought we were talking in that in u uh in March.
41:33
Speaker 1: Back in March and me and her, I told her
41:35
Speaker 1: and if there's any guys missing up with you, just
41:38
Speaker 1: call me and I'll come over. And they're asked to
41:41
Speaker 1: be honest, like, I don't want you to get hurt
41:43
Speaker 1: in this. This is the lead, the last thing that
41:45
Speaker 1: I wanted. So that's so sweet of you. Um, well,
41:50
Speaker 1: since you guys have been in touch since March and
41:53
Speaker 1: you probably were a little bit in touch during quarantine
41:56
Speaker 1: when she was able to see these guys for the
41:59
Speaker 1: first time, did she ever make mention to you that
42:01
Speaker 1: she thought that Dale was the cutest, that she was
42:04
Speaker 1: most excited to meet him. No, she didn't make any
42:07
Speaker 1: comments about like the guys. I feel like she wasn't
42:11
Speaker 1: really like it's a special season, like he Normally you
42:15
Speaker 1: don't get to see who who's going on onto your show.
42:19
Speaker 1: Like then, imagine you would have liked had I don't
42:22
Speaker 1: know all the names and the profile of everyone that's
42:27
Speaker 1: going through your season, you would you would check admit it. Yeah,
42:31
Speaker 1: I definitely would have appreciated that, and like this this
42:37
Speaker 1: is one thing, so like I'm pretty sure like she
42:41
Speaker 1: already like looked them up before, but she wasn't allowed
42:45
Speaker 1: to say anything, and she didn't mention anything about like
42:47
Speaker 1: who she was more attracted to or something like that.
42:50
Speaker 1: I think she she she wanted to give a fair
42:52
Speaker 1: shot to everyone. Do you think that they spoke before
42:56
Speaker 1: the show, because everybody, well, I don't want to say everybody.
43:00
Speaker 1: A lot of people seem to think that the two
43:02
Speaker 1: of them chatted before the show. The more I watched
43:05
Speaker 1: this season, the more I think it truly was a
43:08
Speaker 1: spontaneo like a feeling that she got in the moment
43:12
Speaker 1: that it was love at first sight. But I think
43:15
Speaker 1: that a lot of people will still continue with the
43:17
Speaker 1: thought that they talked beforehand because it was just seemed
43:20
Speaker 1: like such an instantaneous chemistry. I don't I to be honest,
43:25
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I want to believe her when
43:28
Speaker 1: she said it was only Blake that reached out to
43:31
Speaker 1: her and maybe like a guy like like wrote to her.
43:35
Speaker 1: But like at the end of this, I think it
43:38
Speaker 1: all like played out the first night when he stepped
43:41
Speaker 1: out the limmo and like there was all these sparks
43:44
Speaker 1: in her eyes. So um hopefully yes, I mean, like
43:49
Speaker 1: she does. She doesn't tell me these kind of things,
43:51
Speaker 1: but she's not allowed too. So anyways, I don't tell
43:56
Speaker 1: I don't tell my ex those type of things either.
43:58
Speaker 1: I think we just I don't blame her. Ben, while
44:02
Speaker 1: you're a good man, and uh, it's really great to
44:05
Speaker 1: catch up with you and here about your You're just
44:07
Speaker 1: your admiration and and care for Claire. Still, I want
44:10
Speaker 1: to take a break when we come back, been what
44:12
Speaker 1: I want to hear about what you're up today? Uh,
44:14
Speaker 1: kind of what you're what's going on in your life?
44:16
Speaker 1: Give you the stage for a second. We do every
44:18
Speaker 1: in depth podcast. Uh, so we'll come back with Ben Wah,
44:23
Speaker 1: Claire's ex fiance but good friend, on the almost famous
44:28
Speaker 1: in Debt podcast. Ben, when we knew you when you
44:41
Speaker 1: were on Jasmine season, you were a restaurant manager, right, Yeah,
44:48
Speaker 1: multiple restaurants in Montreal exactly. So I'm the my director
44:53
Speaker 1: of three restaurants and the banquet of the hotel Plasta
44:57
Speaker 1: arm So there's one rooftop bar, there is one um,
45:02
Speaker 1: a French cuisine restaurant that I was talking with the
45:05
Speaker 1: then when we were on the bus up to the
45:07
Speaker 1: skating rank back in Clermont and we were. I'm also
45:11
Speaker 1: a director of a Japanese that, yeah, a restaurant and bar.
45:16
Speaker 1: And is that what you're still doing today? Are you
45:18
Speaker 1: still actively working at those places? Yeah, yea, yeah, I'm
45:22
Speaker 1: actually in the private room of the French quizzing restaurants.
45:25
Speaker 1: So and you know, am I enjoying the restaurants? Like? Actually,
45:30
Speaker 1: I know Jared worked in restaurants, am I right? Yes? Yes,
45:34
Speaker 1: he u managed restaurants for a couple of years before
45:37
Speaker 1: going to the show, and it's his dream to open
45:40
Speaker 1: up a restaurant or bar of his own. So we
45:42
Speaker 1: are in that first stage of its just just exploring
45:48
Speaker 1: that idea. Okay, good, good good. I mean, like I
45:53
Speaker 1: feel like him, have a lot of the things that
45:56
Speaker 1: are come in. But first of all, I just want
45:58
Speaker 1: to congratulate both a few guys the engagement then and
46:03
Speaker 1: for the wedding for you. Actually a lot of things
46:05
Speaker 1: happened since the past three years, but I'm glad that
46:09
Speaker 1: you guys are alright a good place right now. So yes,
46:12
Speaker 1: I'm still living living in Montreal, um doing working a lot.
46:18
Speaker 1: It's not super easy. The pandemic in here. They had
46:20
Speaker 1: to close restaurants and dining rooms Uh, it's been almost
46:25
Speaker 1: like a month. Uh, and we're good doing another month
46:28
Speaker 1: of closing and the restaurants, but we're doing takeouts and
46:31
Speaker 1: delivery at the Japanese our restaurants, or at least we're
46:35
Speaker 1: still making some revenues. But it's not it's not the
46:37
Speaker 1: same as with the pandemic and before before what was
46:41
Speaker 1: it before? Back in days? Are you dating? Are you?
46:45
Speaker 1: Are you in love? Yeah? I'm actually seeing someone right now.
46:49
Speaker 1: So for me. She she she she's the one and
46:54
Speaker 1: she's super sweet. Her name is Mode. Uh. She's the
46:58
Speaker 1: owner of a dance student you uh in here in
47:02
Speaker 1: in Montreal area. So um yeah, I mean like she's
47:06
Speaker 1: a she's a great girl and I actually can see
47:10
Speaker 1: her in my last post on Instagram is it my
47:13
Speaker 1: last post? But she's I was looking your Instagram before
47:17
Speaker 1: this and I don't remember seeing her hold on. So um,
47:23
Speaker 1: she like the drone the drone video that I made,
47:26
Speaker 1: Like she's the lady beside me. So she is. So
47:33
Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is a relatively new relationships since you
47:36
Speaker 1: were running, um in the running for Summer Games. Yeah, exactly.
47:40
Speaker 1: So the casting for Summer Games was around the February
47:45
Speaker 1: and March and like, yeah, I've been dating her for
47:50
Speaker 1: a few months already, so it has been great so far.
47:53
Speaker 1: So hopefully I'm not gonna you ever go back on
47:57
Speaker 1: on any of these shows, but you know, you know
48:01
Speaker 1: we we're hoping for the best. It brought you good friendship, man,
48:04
Speaker 1: and Uh, if anything, these shows have done that for me,
48:07
Speaker 1: and I know they've done that for you. We've just
48:09
Speaker 1: heard a whole podcast about your friendship with Claire and
48:11
Speaker 1: it's really refreshing and good to hear and also awesome
48:14
Speaker 1: to hear your support of her. Ben wa every in
48:17
Speaker 1: depth episode. Uh, Ashley has a really special thing that
48:22
Speaker 1: she loves to do. It's one of my favorite moments
48:23
Speaker 1: of the podcast. Uh, it's super easy. You're off the
48:26
Speaker 1: hot seat until my final question. But Ashley, this is
48:30
Speaker 1: your time take it away alright. So it's just basically
48:34
Speaker 1: rapid fire a whole bunch of fun questions. I'm gonna
48:36
Speaker 1: start with, what's your favorite dish at one of your restaurants? Uh?
48:43
Speaker 1: Definitely me Geary. Uh, how much you won? So it's
48:47
Speaker 1: a yellow from Tuna. It's delicious. I can't go wrong
48:51
Speaker 1: with tuna. I love tuna. What is something in Canada
48:55
Speaker 1: that Americans don't have that we totally need to adapt.
49:02
Speaker 1: You don't have do you have putine? Do you do
49:05
Speaker 1: you think you have putine? That would be my answer
49:07
Speaker 1: coming because of us, it's not common. I think that's
49:10
Speaker 1: becoming a little bit more frequent on menus, like they're
49:13
Speaker 1: trying to be trendy and adding it. But what's your
49:16
Speaker 1: favorite type? Um? I know that, like what's the standard poutine?
49:20
Speaker 1: And then what is your favorite type of foutine? Because
49:22
Speaker 1: I know that you guys have a vast variety. Now okay, good,
49:25
Speaker 1: so uh, the classic one would be some French fries,
49:29
Speaker 1: some gravy, and some nice fresh cheese skirts. But you
49:34
Speaker 1: can always like tricket my favorite, I like like some
49:38
Speaker 1: duck comfeet on top of it. Maybe if you can
49:41
Speaker 1: switch the potatoes for sweet potato French fries and switch
49:45
Speaker 1: a gravy for like a pepper peppercorn sauce instead, so
49:50
Speaker 1: you can always like play with that. That's a funny
49:52
Speaker 1: thing about that putine. You can always tweak it your
49:54
Speaker 1: own weight. But the cheese skirts are must alright, alright,
49:58
Speaker 1: it sounds like a nap to me sort of absolutely.
50:04
Speaker 1: What was your favorite event at Winter Games? Oh, I
50:11
Speaker 1: think I think that the cross country skiing was the
50:15
Speaker 1: most inserting one. Right, we had to shoot the paintball,
50:18
Speaker 1: probably the easiest one. Yeah, it was tough for so
50:22
Speaker 1: many people. I I remember that, but it wasn't easy.
50:27
Speaker 1: But it was probably the easiest because after that we
50:30
Speaker 1: had to go the downhill skiing, where I was truly like, oh,
50:34
Speaker 1: this is the part of the contract that says I
50:36
Speaker 1: signed my life away. I remember you on the on skates, Ashley,
50:41
Speaker 1: and you were doing good. Thank you. You're very sweet.
50:46
Speaker 1: At least you were trying right, you were doing your best. Yeah. Okay,
50:50
Speaker 1: so what who was your first kiss? Describe your first kiss?
50:55
Speaker 1: Who was my first kiss? Wow? In my whole life?
50:59
Speaker 1: Her name was uh, was me Lan? And that was
51:03
Speaker 1: my she was my first girlfriend, if my memory is right,
51:07
Speaker 1: and uh, I remember because I was wrong, I think, yeah,
51:13
Speaker 1: you're you're drunk with your first kiss. So how old
51:15
Speaker 1: are you? I don't know, maybe, uh, maybe I don't know,
51:21
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen, I I don't remember. No, Actually it was old.
51:25
Speaker 1: It was an old first kiss, like I was. I
51:27
Speaker 1: was nineteen. So it's okay, yeah, yeah, makes everybody feel better. Okay, lastly,
51:34
Speaker 1: what's your favorite movie. Uh, oh, my god, I don't know,
51:41
Speaker 1: because it's all we I feel like, yeah, some of
51:43
Speaker 1: the all the weeen movies are pretty good. Maybe Ocus
51:46
Speaker 1: Focused because when I was young, like yeah, I did
51:49
Speaker 1: at that time of the year. I feel like Ocus
51:51
Speaker 1: Focus is one of my my best memories of all movies.
51:55
Speaker 1: Very nostalgic. Yeah, really alright, been while here's my time
52:00
Speaker 1: with you. It's the final thing in the podcast. You're
52:02
Speaker 1: almost done. You've been great. We appreciate you. We'd like
52:05
Speaker 1: to give you the stage. Um for anybody out there listening, Um,
52:08
Speaker 1: what message do you have on your heart right now?
52:11
Speaker 1: For anybody that you just like to share? You take
52:13
Speaker 1: thirty seconds a minute. I don't have twenty minutes for
52:16
Speaker 1: you to do this, So prittlease keep it like reasonably short.
52:19
Speaker 1: The stages your has been wah, what would you like
52:22
Speaker 1: to share with anybody listening? Uh. To be honest with you, guys,
52:27
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to keep in mind this old
52:30
Speaker 1: batch or franchise and stuff. Uh, they're like I said,
52:35
Speaker 1: it's it's a business. There's a lot of anything. There's
52:38
Speaker 1: a lot of like what you guys haven't seen, so uh,
52:42
Speaker 1: and keep always in perspective, there's there's someone, there's a
52:46
Speaker 1: human that whenever you're doing like some comments on social
52:50
Speaker 1: media's and stuff that is probably gonna like seeing somehow
52:55
Speaker 1: or maybe not, but like there might be a human
52:58
Speaker 1: hurt or affected by your comments. So just always be
53:04
Speaker 1: nice and respectful through everything you say, because like, uh,
53:09
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of things that you guys haven't
53:12
Speaker 1: seen and that you guys know some like some of
53:15
Speaker 1: the people they like, you know, Ben, you know, actually
53:18
Speaker 1: they tend to to get like they know you a
53:21
Speaker 1: hundred percent of you. But you just like I saw
53:24
Speaker 1: a few of the clips of you on the internet.
53:26
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating. It's it's frustrating. So just guys, whoever
53:32
Speaker 1: is listening to this, like, just be nice to people.
53:35
Speaker 1: But there's always like a human behind all of this
53:38
Speaker 1: that is going through maybe some tough times, maybe some
53:41
Speaker 1: good times, maybe some bad times also, So please just
53:45
Speaker 1: be nice. And there's no way for hate, for racism,
53:48
Speaker 1: for like whatever like disrespect you can you can imagine,
53:53
Speaker 1: So just just be nice. Guys. You love that. That
53:57
Speaker 1: was a great way to wrap up the podcast. Thanks
54:00
Speaker 1: you're the man. Hey, follow our lead here. I'm gonna
54:03
Speaker 1: start you'll catch on fast. This has been an in
54:06
Speaker 1: depth episode with Ben Wah from Bachelor ro Games, Bachelor
54:10
Speaker 1: at Canada and also Bachelor in Paradise. I've been been,
54:15
Speaker 1: I've been Ashley amazing. Thanks and we bye. Thank you guys,
54:24
Speaker 1: it was a pleasure. Seudy. Follow the Benn and Ashley
54:29
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54:33
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