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  Speaker 1: we are here today, Simon to talk about the s
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  Speaker 1: C West, and as we did earlier this week, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have uh Colin Cowherd come on. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about the f C West with him. What I
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  Speaker 1: love about this is, uh, he's got huge opinions on
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  Speaker 1: this conference because we've got the Chargers in his backyard,
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders a team he has strong opinions on, the
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  Speaker 1: Broncos a quarterback he has strong opinions on, and the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs with Patrick Mahomes, who I know how he feels
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  Speaker 1: about wide receivers right now and their importance in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL and the loss of Tyree Hill and what that
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  Speaker 1: is going to mean. Uh, And I feel like every
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  Speaker 1: opinion he has is going to be different than yours
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  Speaker 1: and probably aligned with mine. Here's what's interesting about this division.
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs plus one sixty Raiders plus six fifty there is
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  Speaker 1: that is the shortest delta between favorite and long shot
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  Speaker 1: in any division in the NFL. Reflective of the quality
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  Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks in this division. I'm gonna be interested
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  Speaker 1: to hear what Colin rate these four quarterbacks for just
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  Speaker 1: this season. Right you know exactly who these four guys
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  Speaker 1: are with their offenses. How would he order it? Because
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  Speaker 1: right now I think I'm gonna shock people with my order.
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  Speaker 1: And again this is just for this season, simply based
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  Speaker 1: off the teams and what I know about them. At
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  Speaker 1: one I got my home. Still I great him out
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  Speaker 1: with the best offensive line of football or number two
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  Speaker 1: right by the Eagles, And I don't really care about
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  Speaker 1: the losing enough Tyreek Hill. I still think it's again
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big deal at certain points, but
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  Speaker 1: he still has Kelsey still has a lot of weapons
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  Speaker 1: on the outside, and they brought in Juju which I
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  Speaker 1: think is a big deal. So to me, now much
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  Speaker 1: has changed there. My second quarterbacks is gonna shock people.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually Derek car Chet. I have Derek Carr graded
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  Speaker 1: above Herbert and Russell Wilson this upcoming season. And it's
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  Speaker 1: for a maltitude of reasons other than the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I just love what they have in Vegas round that
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  Speaker 1: awesome scheme and Josh McDaniels, I think is going to
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  Speaker 1: bring the best out of their car. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: it's a no brainer where other people are really tugging
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  Speaker 1: with it. But I look at Herbert again and why
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  Speaker 1: my third rated, uh not Russell Wilson. I have Herbert
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  Speaker 1: is my third rated. Herbert is inconsistent. I've watched all
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  Speaker 1: his snaps this off season, every single throw he made
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  Speaker 1: last season, I watched whatever it was, I think it
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  Speaker 1: was six twenty two past attempts he had. I watched
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  Speaker 1: every single one. He's got the talent, there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he is smart, really really smart, football wise,
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  Speaker 1: incredibly and consistent, and with a with a coach inconsistent
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  Speaker 1: as well, and Staley not know what the hell he's
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  Speaker 1: doing with analytics. Like again, the guys all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: He like try to use math as a de turn
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  Speaker 1: where he's not. He's going off book, he's not listening
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  Speaker 1: to the people. I just can't have him above Derek
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  Speaker 1: Carr right now, a guy who didn't make the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: last year, who did win a bunch of games with
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  Speaker 1: a second coach, and all the drama going on with Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: and in fourth I got Russell Wilson, a guy that
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  Speaker 1: I know collinshi on him, I know Chad high on him.
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  Speaker 1: I have not seen any indicator that offensive line is
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  Speaker 1: improved in anyway. He's been getting lit up all preseason
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  Speaker 1: and these joint practices that he's been doing with these
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  Speaker 1: other teams. That's not good in this division. That all
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  Speaker 1: these teams have stacked D lines. Every single team this
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  Speaker 1: division has a good D line. So the Russell Wilson
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  Speaker 1: questions is the man is gonna be thirty four years
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  Speaker 1: old come November. He's undersized, he has one notorious ring
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  Speaker 1: to his name, which I joke about is because of
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  Speaker 1: a defense. I just I think there's too much put
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  Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson that he's gonna be the Stafford, the
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady coming in first year and win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: The difference was those those other teams they had offensive lines.
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  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson does not have that. He's only going from
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  Speaker 1: a harball offensive line in Seattle with better weapons on
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  Speaker 1: the outside to an unproven team in Denver with a
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  Speaker 1: weak offensive line. So yeah, my one, two, three, four
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  Speaker 1: goes Mahomes, Car Herbert and Russell Wills and just for
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  Speaker 1: this season, right, it's not purely career, just for this season.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating. What I love is I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about Herbert for a second, because hey, you
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  Speaker 1: say you watched all six and twenty two past attempts.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do that in a day? Like? Do you
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  Speaker 1: watch you? Do you watch the whole game? Like? How
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  Speaker 1: do you do that? No? Way, too boring to do
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  Speaker 1: it like that, But I said, I spread it out
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  Speaker 1: over two month period because I'm all in, Like I
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  Speaker 1: coming to this year. I wanted to be all in
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  Speaker 1: on the Chargers. I wanted to be no, this is
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  Speaker 1: the team, right, the coach is going to correct all
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  Speaker 1: of his mistakes from last year. Herbert Will and I
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  Speaker 1: am going to be all in on this team coming
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  Speaker 1: to the season because again, on paper, they're incredible, like defensively,
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  Speaker 1: all offensively. The Chargers are so good and we all
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  Speaker 1: believe in Herbert, right, but I mean we can't lie
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  Speaker 1: the kids hasn't made the playoff yet, right, this is
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  Speaker 1: heading into his third season. We can talk about all
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  Speaker 1: the pressure that's on Hurts and to her he's got
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  Speaker 1: the most pressure in my opinion, on him, just because
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of gotta prove it. And luckily for him,
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  Speaker 1: he's a quiet guy out there in l a and
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  Speaker 1: no one's really paying attention to him. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come on, man, like we're all hyping you up NonStop,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like I need to seek consistency, Like we
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  Speaker 1: all know he has the arm town. So yeah, for
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  Speaker 1: me watching his film, I can't believe how good this
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  Speaker 1: kid is and I can't believe he fell in that draft.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what, I've taken him over
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  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, probably not, but over to h Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 1: just looking at his body type and his style of play,
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  Speaker 1: it is interesting that he felt just in the simple
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  Speaker 1: fact that he's just shy, quiet guy who has kind
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  Speaker 1: of had his long hair, and you know, people really
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  Speaker 1: didn't know understand him in Oregon, where it's like just
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  Speaker 1: watching his body type and his throwing style, it's incredible
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  Speaker 1: as talent. So for me just upcoming season, I have
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  Speaker 1: the most question marks in this division I have about Herbert,
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  Speaker 1: but just on talent and the skill level the Chargers team.
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  Speaker 1: That's the reason I put him above Russell Wilson. What's
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  Speaker 1: interesting is, you know, it's funny you say on paper
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  Speaker 1: and I and you think about this team being so talented.
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  Speaker 1: The Chargers have spent a generation being the most talented
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  Speaker 1: team and never having the coach that can get him
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  Speaker 1: over the top. So another they've got Brandon Staley, And
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember. This is what I thought about when
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  Speaker 1: you said that. I thought about Brandon Staley, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought about, is he sitting in an office somewhere saying
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  Speaker 1: this work right now. And that's what I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is saying that in coaches meetings or is
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  Speaker 1: he so arrogant, like because of the way he's called plays.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the guy from Adam. He might not
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  Speaker 1: be that arrogant. And when I've seen him speak, he's
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  Speaker 1: been wonderfully thoughtful. Um, but is his philosophy is he so?
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  Speaker 1: Is he so committed to his philosophy that he can't
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  Speaker 1: get out of the way of the talent? That's what
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  Speaker 1: I believe. He got humbled. He says he got humbled,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm hoping he did. Like, again, I agree with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the math he was doing. Right. If
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: if you're playing against my homes and you're up four
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  Speaker 1: and you're on your own thirty five and you've got
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  Speaker 1: two yards to make a fourth down. I get it,
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  Speaker 1: If the math doesn't get that, you have my homes
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  Speaker 1: across the field. But if there's two seconds left in
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  Speaker 1: the in the first half and you're on your opponents
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  Speaker 1: If you don't get to touchdown, that's not a field
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  Speaker 1: game win. You take the three there. Even the analytics
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  Speaker 1: will tell you to take the three there every time.
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  Speaker 1: And that's my biggest issue with the guys, Like he
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  Speaker 1: claims he knows analytics and that's what he's based and
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  Speaker 1: stuff off where that's not true. It's like you can't
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  Speaker 1: lie and hide down the math and we all have
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  Speaker 1: the math and data right in front of us. So
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  Speaker 1: that's my big interesting thing with this team. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: can he take that step because how many times have
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  Speaker 1: we've seen a chat we you just talked about, We've
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  Speaker 1: seen LT and my and my again people Sweetness Chad
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  Speaker 1: the time. You need not just the players, the coaching.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, too many question marks for me to make
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  Speaker 1: them another two number two team in this division where
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm getting from the Vegas and
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  Speaker 1: if only my only mindset with Vegas is they're going
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  Speaker 1: to improve, right, they had so much BSCO and on
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  Speaker 1: last season. Everything I've seen from them this preseason, McDaniel's
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  Speaker 1: new offensive scheme he's put in, I love it. I
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  Speaker 1: love it so much. I mean Adams is literally icing
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  Speaker 1: on the cake with him, Waller, I mean Hunter Renfro.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't get over how talented Vegas offense is
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  Speaker 1: the biggest weakness in Vegas Obviously horrible secondary, I mean
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  Speaker 1: just say, absolutely terrible on paper. Secondary. So going to
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  Speaker 1: be exciting team this season for sure, where they're just
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  Speaker 1: gonna be in shootout. So I again this list. I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to hear what Colin thinks. It's it's it's tough
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  Speaker 1: to do these four quarterbacks against each other, but when
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  Speaker 1: you really base it off what they have on their teams,
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  Speaker 1: and just for this season, it's it's exciting because again
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this. At the end of the year,
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  Speaker 1: I might look like a complete idiot taking Derek car
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  Speaker 1: over Russell Wilson justin Herbert, But in August, I'm feeling
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. Well, look, you may not like. Look the
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  Speaker 1: the huge advantage that car has now is they signed
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  Speaker 1: Davante Adams. They've got you talk about weapons in Renfro
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  Speaker 1: and Waller at tight end, They've got incredible weapons. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a new coach. Is he going to be
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  Speaker 1: the coach that can take advantage? Is he gonna be
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  Speaker 1: better if Josh McDaniel is going to be better than
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  Speaker 1: he was in Denver? We'll see to the playoffs. I
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  Speaker 1: puba volume podcast network media mogul. We had talked about
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  Speaker 1: the NFC West. Now we are talking about the best
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  Speaker 1: division in football, the a f C West. Colin, before
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  Speaker 1: you came on, sign that I want you to list
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  Speaker 1: your ranking of the quarterbacks in this division, and I
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  Speaker 1: want Colin's reaction. So this is on the basis of
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  Speaker 1: this is just for this year and about the team
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  Speaker 1: around them, not a quarterback first quarterback, just for these
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  Speaker 1: individual quarterbacks and the teams are on. So for this division,
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  Speaker 1: I still look at as it's Mahomes, right. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really worry too much about losing tyret Kill when he
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  Speaker 1: has when the number one graded out was the number
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  Speaker 1: one offensive line of football, where he still has Kelsey
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  Speaker 1: and we know they've added other offensive weapons to them. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is where it gets a little crazy in my list.
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr for me is the number two quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: this division, and the many many reasons is not just
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  Speaker 1: my faith in Josh McDaniel stepping in and up being
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  Speaker 1: upgrade to this offense. We know what it is with
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr, right, He's got Waller, he's got Hunter Renfro
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  Speaker 1: and then they brought in Davante Adams, who was his
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  Speaker 1: best friend in college's number one go to guy. It's
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  Speaker 1: all set up for him this season, and I still
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  Speaker 1: have too many question marks who my number three quarterback
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  Speaker 1: is justin Herbert can look incredible for two quarters and
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  Speaker 1: then he'll just have to take a quarter off or
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  Speaker 1: he just won't look right and he won't make the
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  Speaker 1: smart plays. And that's again that's an age thing where
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  Speaker 1: I think he's a quarterback with Again people talk about
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: two on Jalen Hurts. I put Herbert right there as
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a quarterback with the most pressure on his back. Two
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: years in the league, no playoff appearances, all this hype.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Last year, Chad just read it off fourteen to one
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: for the Chargers to win the Super Bowl. Insanity. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: then my last My number four guy in this division
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson again, thirty four year old quarterback under
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: size five eleven. That's being nice with a bad offensive line.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: The Broncos this preseason have blocked nobody. They've blocked no
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: one in there there. They've done litted camp with other
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: teams and they're not blocking people. And Russell Wilson's having
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: to take just these these plays where he's breaking outside
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: the pocket, which is great, which is where we like Russ,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: but that was years ago. Again, Russ is thirty four. Now,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: he can't be taking big hits. We've seen it two
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: years in a row where he's taking little hits and
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: has not been right right. That hand injury took him
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: out all last season. So for me, number one Mahomes,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: number two Derek Carr, number three Herbert and number four
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And then again this is just for this season.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I like all four, so I know this is a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: cop out, but I view them as four unique players.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Mahomes is the most gifted, but is the least consistent mechanically.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Herbert's the best mechanically, but can be and he could
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: be the logo of the NFL. The way he throws,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you get the exact same sewing motion, big strong arm,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: but he can be at times a bit mechanical. Uh So,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: in a way, Herbert and Mahomes are very different. One
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: is mechanically a challenge, but just all sorts of crazy angles.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Herbert is the same motion for every throw, but he
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: can be a little stiff. I think Russell's the best
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: playmaker of the baseball player in him the ability to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: be elusive, keep a pocket alive, and yet never get hit.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: All these years he's had one finger injury. He's never
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: been hurt in college. And I think Derek is smaller,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: less of an arm less elusive, but has shown an
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: ability to um and it could be as religious conviction
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to not hear a ton of noise and chaos. He
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: kind of plays through stuff. He tunes a lot of
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: bullshit out and we saw this last year the team
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: falling apart. He is so focused on what matters to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: him that he's very unique. He's not as he's not
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: as strong as Herbert. He's not as gifted. He doesn't
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: make plays, but he hit his I think Derek Carr's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: great ability is to um overcome. He's an overcomer um.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So I look at all four of him as having
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: kind of a special quality. I think it's the best
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: quarterback division of my life. I don't know there's ever
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: been four quarterbacks this good. They're all totally unique, card
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: and have a huge arm. Russell's a little small, Justin's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: a little mechanical. Sometimes mahomes a little loose. But they're
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: all gifts. So and I don't have a problem ranking,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, wherever the rankings are. I just think they're
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: very unique. I think they all they really what they
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: really do is what the NFL has become at quarterback.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You could take all four of them and say this
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is the NFL. It used to be white six four
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: pocket passers. We got short guy, we got big, mechanical guy,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: we got side arm guy. It's all flavors. It really
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: is the NFL. You can win four different ways with
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks, and you couldn't in the seventies. Everybody
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: was kind of the same. That's going to take away
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: of that division. So this Division right now, difference in
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the odds to win the division from the Chiefs to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. Chiefs Chargers, Broncos Raiders is the shortest of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: any division. Obviously because of the quality of the quarterbacks.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: You have talked on your radio show countless times. This
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is a wide receiver league. You need to invest in
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the wide receivers. We talked about it with Green Bay.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: They haven't invested in the wide receivers. The Chiefs got
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: rid of Tree Hill. They're the odds on favorite to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: win the a f C West. You and I have
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: talked about how we both love Russell Wilson. Simon just
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: listed Russell Wilson fourth. The Broncos are third in odds
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to win the division. Who do you think? When is
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: this division? Right now? I have Denver winning it because
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: here here's my takeaway, here's what I worry about Kansas City.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: So not only did the Broncos go and get Randy Gregory,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: they also got DJ Jones from San Francisco, So I
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: think they have the most talented defensive front. My argument
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: is what quarterback will be the most comfortable. So the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: old line for the Raiders is bad. Outside of Colton Miller,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it's been shaky, so I have them for I love
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater, but they got a right tackle problem with
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the Chargers in a division with a lot of good
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: pass rusher their third I think Creed Humphrey has become
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the best or second best center in the sport. I
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: do worry without Tyreek Hill their ability to play from
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: behind at the same level. They've lost their lightning strike.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: They'll be productive. I like Denver's old line. I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: they have really strong running games, so they'll mostly play
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: on the mostly thrown play action. I think their backs
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: are great. So my thing is, I think Denver's actually
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: going to run more than people think. I think people
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be let Russ Cook. They lost Tim Patrick.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna be
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a lot about a lot of a running team that
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: throws mostly on play action, and that's where Russell's really effective.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Russell is not terribly effective on third and nine. Russell
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: is really effective on second five. He's really effective because
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: he gets that crease, that opening on play action. Because
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: he's short, there's openings on the offensive line. So I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: have I have Denver winning it. The one thing I'll
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: say about Kansas City, is that because Mahomes is so gifted,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: we've got to acknowledge this. He has had the last
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: two years six games stretches where he's mechanically in the
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: weeds now and he brings him back. I mean, and
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you'll say, yea, we got to get it right. You know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: if you go back and look at mahomes is pre
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: draft scouting resume, I mean they literally call it. They're like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: he's great. You got to coach this guy. Like he
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: gets mechanically into the weeds. Last year he had a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: six game stretch. He was just off. He's so mesmerizing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: You know, Well, you go to a fireworks show and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the fireworks shows amazing. Then you drive home, go to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the park the next day with the firework shows at
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it's a freaking mess. It's uninhabitable for two days. Because
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Mahomes is so great, you don't see all this stuff
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: behind it. Because his moments are so great. He it
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: can be bad, like he has bad like Cincinnati he
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: had a bad second half. He has bad half. But
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: if the fireworks show is so glamorous, nobody wants to
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: look at all the stuff on the ground. Is I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think Mahomes is less consistent, then we all want to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: admit I think Herbert's actually I think we look at
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Herbert and we think it's kind of inconsistent. But I
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: could argue Derek Carr I get the same guy virtually
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: every Sunday. I mean I kind of feel like I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: always get the same Derek Cary leaves the NFL and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of comebacks since he entered the league.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like he's had six coaches nine years.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I get the same Derek Carver a year. But my Homes,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: he's he's a handful. I think there are times that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid is pulling his hair out with it, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I love him, but we forget these bad halfs and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: bad months back to back years. I've seen this a lot.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: This is great because Simon almost had me turned around
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: before you came on, because he's so pro Niners. Uh,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I mean so pro Raiders. Uh. Like I said, Chiefs, Chargers,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Broncos Raiders are. The current UM is the current order
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: for the a f C West. It's A plus one
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: sixty plus two fifty for the Chargers, plus two sixty
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: for the Broncos, plus six fifty for the Raiders. Here's
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: what's interesting for the Super Bowl. Three of the top
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: seven teams to win the Super Bowl right now in
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: terms of future odds are from the a f C West,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Chargers, and the Chiefs. The Russell Wilson argument,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to me goes back to something Jordan Palmer said on
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: this podcast on The Favorite Podcast about three or four
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. He's not a buyer of Russell Wilson and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: sort of the inspirational moments or what he does off
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the field. He's a buyer in the consistency he exhibits
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: on the field. Players want to know what they're gonna
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: get the last two minutes. You want to know what
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: your quarterback is gonna be doing. You want to know
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: he's going to deliver it where he says he's going
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to deliver it. You want to be able to make
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: your play because you know he's going to make his play.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's what you get from Russell Wilson more
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: than anything. That's why I like the Broncos to win
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: this division simon more than the Raiders, more than the Chiefs,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: more than the Chargers. I love Russell Wilson. I love him.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I bet you do. You're the bet in public, Chad.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: That's how that's how they get you. Again. Everyone's sucked in.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Everyone's been all over this for months, and I'm just
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I gotta be the realist and if I'm just looking
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: at straight value, that's why I like the Raiders. There's
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: zero reason why the Raiders should not be plus three
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: win this division. The difference between them the Chargers Denver,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it's minuscule. If anything, it should favor Vegas because of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: what we just talked about, everything they just went through
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: last year, they still somehow made it in by people
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: forget this. They be the Chargers at home right on
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the last game of the year. So to me, it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: just that's how the public is. They just like the new,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: shiny new toys and the new exciting things, and I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: gotta be that boring guy where it's like, Okay, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: know Mahomes is the best quarterback or the second best
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: quarterback of football if you think it's Josh Allen. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: know Andy Reid is one of the best offensive minds
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and all football. I'm getting them both in a year
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: where people are down on them. So to me, I'll
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just wait and hope that Mahomes is another slow start
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and I'll just get great value on betting the Chiefs
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: later in the season. But it's kind of what happened
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: last year. I just think too many people are looking
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: at what happened with Mahomes last year. I think that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: was more of they were due for a bad year.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Not every team is like the Patriots and Tom Brady
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and you win the division and you come the number
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: one seed. Every year. It's a normal football There's ups
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and downs. It's just how it is with these regular teams.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: And a down year last year the Chiefs, they were
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: still the best team, right Like we were all shocked
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: when the Bengals came back and beat them in that
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: second half. So to me, just looking at from that standpoint,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I agree with Collin's assessment that the Denver thing is
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that's the exciting thing, right Russell Wilson, the upgrade from
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: him and Drew from Drew Lock, it's day and night.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: You can't even compare it. So that's where I'm I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: think Collin's right, where it's like, if this kid can
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: come in and if they can go four and oh
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: three and one to start the year, Denver, they're off
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and running. Everything I've said is pointless about Russell Wilson
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: because he does have that moxie, like, yeah, he's lame
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: as hell and his audio clips, but dude, on the field,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you cannot deny his swagger. We've all seen it with
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: his swagger and the guys they follow it, and Denver
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: has been dying for that. So I do agree with
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Colin on that sense that Denver is the upside of
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: this division. Well, the one thing I worry about now,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Russell has been a great September quarterback the last three years.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: In the first three weeks he's got twenty nine touchdowns
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: in one pick. But here's what I worry about. Kyler
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Murray and Russell play a very similar style. Even when
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the pockets cleaned, they move a lot of times. Russell
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: feels better in September than December, and Kyler feels better
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in September the December. And my question is that style
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: just wears on your legs. I mean, this is why
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Westbrook Russell Westbrook falls apart in the playoffs. His style
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: is so hyper athletic that by the end of the playoffs,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I mean second round of the playoffs, it feels like
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Westbrook is shot. You know, Steph Curry's game is jumpers,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and I mean he's playing half the court. And so
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I think Russell and Kyler are so hyper athletic that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I do wonder like the is Russell hitting a wall
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: athletically where he's like his style it does not last.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It's not Tom Brady. Brady is five years old. He doesn't.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It's it's you know, as long as he gets to ply,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the yoga that he's his core is strong.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I mean essentially, I mean if you if you look
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: at how seasons work, it gets colder, you're less limber.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Kayler and Russell Wilson I worry about like Russell's moving
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: out of his prime and Kyler is already in it.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Whereas I think you can play. I think Justin Herbert
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: could literally play for twenty three years. You know, he
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: moves when he has to, so there not. That's the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: one knock on Russo Wilson. It's like he's put on weight.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: He's not quite as quick, and I'm like, I don't
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: know if you can play that style. I don't think
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: your primes thirteen years in that style. I think it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: like eight. And some people think I've heard people say
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: he's moved out of his prime by October or November.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: You may be right, that's very possible. I don't. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that's that style, that hyper athletic style basketball football. I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: just think it has limitations. I think you age very quick.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I mean Westbrook got thirty two. It's over, Cam three over.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: You know you start looking at I mean Peyton Manning
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: had four neck surgeries. Had he not fallen apart, Peyton
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: could have played Blue's forty three years old. All right,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: everyone give me. I think we've made it pretty clear.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I just want to confirm, Colin. Give me your pick
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to win the a f C West again, Chiefs Chargers,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Broncos Raiders, your pick to win Denver wins Kansas City
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: wild Card playoff. Charger special teams kill them finished third,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Raiders defense, they can't overcome it their fourth Wow. Okay,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you like the Broncos. Uh Like I said the Broncos
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: about plus two sixty to win the division, Simon, I'll
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: go Chiefs, Chargers, Raiders then Denver. Wow. I just got
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to believe the Chargers finally get over the hump and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. I just could you see
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: their special teams against Dallas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: was saying the chat on paper, it's incredible offensively, defensively,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, the Chargers have zero excuse this year.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: That's what to me. Sta Staley is on the hot
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: sea already. It's like, Okay, you can be your wild
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: man going up for a fourth down in your own twenty,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: but no playoffs this year. If I was them, you
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: have to move on. Yep, they have to go. The
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: last time you were on the show in the spring,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: we assessed where you are in the growth of the
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Volume and your media media mogul them. You were adamant,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: don't chase money, find good management. Chase good management, not money,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: because there's a sea of money out there, there's not
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of great management. We're going into our second
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: football season. How are you feeling right now? Well, the Volume,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: added Richard Sherman. We have two major announcements in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: next three weeks. I think we're going to have an
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: incredible football season. We have now assembled our entire management team.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: They're awesome. Uh And it's the most fun I've ever
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: had building something. It's the most fun I've ever had.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Like I like broadcasting, and I haven't doing it forever,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: but I like new stuff. And the volume is because
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it's sort of like, remember when you were in high
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: school and I was a team guy. I played in
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the baseball team in literally we didn't have high school baseball.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Played in the football team and a basketball team, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the wrestlers always had this thing where, hey, I don't
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: need to depend on other people, and that was always
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: their thing, like you're on a team. And I was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: always like, yeah, okay, I like teams. To be honest
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: with you, I like teams, and I really noticed it
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: with a volume. Building teams is fun. It is really fun.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: It's like all the things that guys like compartmentaling building.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, we all built fort or played with legos
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: as kids, Like you're building a team. There's just something
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: great about it. I love our team. We've got major
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: announcements coming. I don't know, it's fun. The only thing
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I'd add is awesome. I'm a big Steve Spurrier guy.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: And Steve Spurrier was a state champion, picture won the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Iceman Trophy, It won national titles, and someone said, so decorated,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: but to keep coaching, and he said, winning individual things
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: is nice. Winning individual accoldes is great. I like winning
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: team championships because when a team wins a championship, everybody
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: gets to hug. It's nice. Well, it's like you're playing
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: GM You're you know that. That's like I talked to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: people at Action about this who are on the management
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: side and moving up, Like that's all this is is.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It's like moneyball, right, and you're constantly asking you need this,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you need this. You've got to replace forty five home runs?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: How are you going to do it? You're gonna do
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: it with this number of people. You know, you see
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: what the market is doing. You try to anticipate where
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the market is going. How are you going to beat
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: this competitor. It's super fun. It's a The satisfaction comes
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: in a much longer term, right broadcasting, You sit down,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you've got a good bit, you build a good tree,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: you've got the good branches. You know you've had a
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: good show. This You don't know if it's working for
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  Speaker 1: eighteen months, two years. What's the reaction you bring in Draymond? Oh, Draymond,
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  Speaker 1: that was a good idea that worked out. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: are the other archetypes we can bring in? Like Draymond
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  Speaker 1: that's that's harder to be satisfied immediately with. Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 1: You're you're acquiring, drafting, developing. It's fun. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of talent out there, you just gotta find it. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of talent there really is. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: know they have board members and you know they have
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  Speaker 1: worry about fun and talent people. That's a great freedom.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun. That's when it's fun to be an insurgent.
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  Speaker 1: We're insurgents, Colin, Yeah, disruptors, Yeah, disruptors. Colin Cowherd, boss
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