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Denny Hamlin Talks Winning Martinsville | NASCAR Press Conference · Kenny Wallace Media

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  Felt like the old, old days. I mean, just they did such a
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  great job with the car and you know, we spoke about trying to
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  do something a little different this time around to try to get
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  better. We've just been kind of stuck in
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  a rut really over the last three years or so. 22, the fall of 22
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  is the last kind of dominant car I thought I had at this
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  racetrack. And you know, so since then,
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  just kind of been hanging around 3rd to 5th and, you know, we
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  were always the next best behind the 12 and and then, you know, a
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  couple hundred cars. And so we came with something
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  different. Just trying to get better and
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  obviously turn back the clock. Jeremy Bianchi, the athletic,
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  you're 44. You're at an age when other
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  drivers, you know who they are. Have they they stopped winning
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  races? I'm curious if over this last
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  year or almost a year, you thought maybe that another win
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  wasn't going to come. No, I mean, I'm, I probably am
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  the king of irrational confidence, but I mean,
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  generally speaking, I, I know that when I've got the car to do
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  it, I can be the best. And so, you know, I haven't, I
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  haven't felt like I've held back the car at any point.
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  And certainly I'm not, you know, immune to understanding that
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  Father Time is undefeated. But I just, you know, everything
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  that I need to be good to be a race car driver is still really
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  sharp. And so I feel like there's just,
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  it hasn't happened yet. It will, but not yet in in that
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  same vein, when you win these races now, do you celebrate
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  differently? Do you think like, you know, I'm
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  not going to have a lot of these opportunities left to to be in
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  Victory Lane, to have these moments with the family, the
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  team, etcetera. Yes, yeah, that that's a big one
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  for sure. And certainly you learn to
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  appreciate them a little bit more.
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  You know, when I don't know, when you're just in your 30s or
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  something and and you got such a long runway ahead of you if
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  you're always thinking about. Yeah, well, we'll go win next
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  week too, and the week after that, week after that.
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  But certainly, you know, however many races I'm going to win
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  between now and the end, I'm going to value them just a
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  little bit more. Just, you know, from
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  perspective, you know, from wisdom that you have and, and
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  understanding, you know, the value of it, how hard it is to
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  do. I don't always have my, you
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  know, kids here. So I think it's been a few years
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  since they were in Victory Lane. So just it's having it all come
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  back at this track, you know where it was 10 years ago, 55
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  where Rusty Wallace got his 55th.
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  It just, you know, I'll have time to let all that stuff
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  digest. But it's in the moment.
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  It's really awesome. I never don't think Rusty ever
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  had a two against the world flag.
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  You had 11 against the world. Is that is that is that fun or
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  is there any part of that like motivation or what?
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  Why? I mean, you have already have
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  enough going on. Why add to it?
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  Why not is the question, Why not?
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  I mean, it's just that's me. I mean, go shoot hoops with me,
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  go play pickleball with me, go play golf with me.
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  If I can't talk, then I it takes away my superpower.
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  It really does. I'm not nearly as good my
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  friends. It drives them absolutely crazy.
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  But to me, that part of it, it fuels me and it and it just
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  makes me feel good. That's it.
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  And some would say off the track, it's 2311 against the
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  world. So I'm curious, does winning
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  amid the lawsuit mean anything and could it mean anything going
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  forward? Just haven't gotten the first
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  one out of the way. It really doesn't mean anything
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  as far as, you know, the the court stuff is concerned.
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  I mean, all that stuff is handled off off track.
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  But it I mean, it feels good, right?
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  I mean, it feels good to, you know, know that, you know, you,
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  you just there's, there's probably like 50 fans that are
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  out there waiting for me to get done with this right, that are
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  going to stick this out. And, you know, maybe those were
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  the only 50 in the in the stands that are rooting for me today.
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  But it's like I do it because of them and I do it because it it
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  fuels me from the inside. And and I love, you know, when
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  someone says I can't do it, going out there and doing it.
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  Johnny be Savage Ventures. I know this is not the first
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  time that you've raced against Bubba for the win, but I was
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  curious from your perspective as a driver owner, what is it like
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  lining up on the front rows leader and having him on your
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  right, restart after restart after restart and just seeing
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  him come back and challenging you over and over?
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  Yeah, I mean, I thought generally speaking, I, I didn't
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  see that kind of speed out of the 23 or the 20 yesterday.
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  And so I thought that I was, you know, and was for the most part
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  kind of racing against, you know, the Hendrick cars, mostly
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  the nine. And you know, I was waiting on
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  the 12th kind of for him to show his face and I I think he got up
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  towards the front. But you know it, it's certainly,
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  I feel like I know what they have.
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  I know what I have and if I have track position and I have my
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  experience around this track, it was going to be extremely
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  difficult for them to get around me at any point of that run.
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  And and I was able to just kind of do what I had to do, like
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  just, you know, keep them, well, close.
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  You know, I'm that guy with the fishing line and not close
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  enough almost, you know, like just let them creep in there.
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  But, you know, knowing that I've got a little more gas left in
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  the tank. And so, yeah, it's great to see,
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  especially that team and, and Bubba, like they're, they're
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  really good right now. I mean really, really good and
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  on the edge of, of winning races.
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  So it's great to see, you know, my always, my perfect scenario
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  is me winning and my team cars to finish 2nd, 3rd, 4th.
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  That'd be the perfect scenario. And you're not it's it's nearly
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  impossible to have. But when you're able to execute
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  a day where we can win and they can be in the top five and
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  contending for a win, that's just like I scripted it up.
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  Davy Siegel was SiriusXM NASCAR Radio.
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  One of the first things you said over the radio after you won was
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  Attaboy Chris Gayle. And he spoke at length about,
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  you know, you guys embracing him because he was the only new
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  person on the 11 team and and all those things that come with
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  it. What have you thought about him
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  as a leader now? And, you know, just what do you
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  think that he is capable of as a crew chief working with somebody
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  like yourself for the rest of this year and beyond?
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  Well, I mean, Chris has had a tough go at it.
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  I, you know, I, I like when we didn't have a great weekend.
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  Like social media, people are just out out to get him.
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  And I think that, you know, that he's been the problem for all
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  these years and it's just not the case, you know, So I'm
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  really happy for him because I think, you know, he's had the
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  tough task of having such young drivers his whole career.
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  And that is really hard to do. It's it's hard to put in what,
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  you know, is the fastest thing. And then expecting a rookie to
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  go out there or, or someone that's really young to get the
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  most out of that. And then having the racecraft to
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  manage it through the whole race.
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  It's really, really hard to do. And so I think, you know, him
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  having someone probably as laid back as I am is for the first
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  time in his career is probably making his job a lot, a lot
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  easier. And he mentioned it to me at
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  last week. He was like, you know, it's,
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  this has been the easiest, you know, you're the by far the
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  easiest driver I've had to deal with.
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  So, and I try to do that for him because I, I'd say, you know,
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  I'm never going to second guess your setup, your strategy or
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  anything. All I'm going to do is focus on
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  giving you the best behind the wheel and giving you the best
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  information so you can then go make the right decisions.
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  And whatever you decide, I'm going to have your back 100%.
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  And that's what you have to do. If when you have a new crew
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  chief coming in, there is you got to believe in him and you
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  got to let him be the leader that he is.
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  Kelly Crandall, racer.com First off, Denny, what was the feeling
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  Gabe Hart had today when he leaned in the car pre race and
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  it was the video was posted on Instagram.
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  You called him a liar, I guess he wasn't.
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  Yeah, well, he, he, he says, I don't know.
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  He's been, I don't know what his win percentage is, but he says,
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  you know, when I get these feelings that we're going to be
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  in Victory Lane, I've got that feeling today.
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  And I said, oh, geez, here we go again.
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  Said I've heard this before. I said I don't know what your
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  win percentage is, but I think it's pretty low on your, your
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  feeling. Now they're in the 2019 20 time.
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  Whenever he would say, I got that feeling, I pretty much knew
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  that he had a bullet of a race car they built and we were
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  probably going to win that race that weekend as long as I didn't
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  screw it up. But in the next genera, it's
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  just it's really hard to get that gap.
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  And so I don't know what he saw yesterday, but I, you know, when
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  we finished our debrief after practice, I said, I think we're
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  going to race pretty good tomorrow.
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  And he's like, yeah, I think so too.
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  And, and we at the we did not have the best car.
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  We, we just didn't. But I just had some sort of
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  feeling that, you know, that the direction we were going is the
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  right way. And so he gave me the old, you
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  know, rah rah. I feel good about it today.
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  And and and then I saw Jared there videotaping and I said,
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  you know, like he's a liar because we we never went in And
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  now when he has those feelings, but we did today.
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  The second thing I want to ask was when this win sets in more
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  over the, you know, tonight or or tomorrow, the coming days,
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  will it feel better because it's finally to finally breakthrough
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  again at Martinsville or to because the long wait from Dover
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  last year, which you mentioned a couple weeks ago, had felt like
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  it's been an eternity since that one.
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  It's Martinsville for me because it's so I'm telling you, I
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  scratch my head and I, I study this racetrack more now than I
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  ever have in my career. It was way easier to win, you
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  know, 10 years ago, 12 years ago when it was me, Jimmy and Jeff,
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  it just, I knew it was going to be the three of us.
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  Our cars were good. We had the feeling we just were
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  better than everyone else. And it was easy.
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  I didn't have to put in all the work that I do now, but it just
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  was aggravating to be the next best at this track for the last
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  five years. Like just never having it. the
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  IT is like the ability to control a race, run as fast as
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  you need to to lead the race and pull away when you want.
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  And today we had it. And so it's that's what feels
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  good is knowing that now we've got something that like I'm not
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  going to have to chase my tail in, in the in the fall trying to
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  download and figure out, OK, why am I running third again?
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  Like I, I need to win this race. And so, you know, sure, when you
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  run in the top five, you'll, you'll have some wins fall your
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  way, but I want to dominate. I don't want to, I don't want
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  to, you know, I'll take any win I can get, but I want to have
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  days like this where I'm in complete control.
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  And so it's going to feel good coming here in the in the fall
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  and knowing that like, OK, we've, we don't have to chase
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  our tail. We know we need to to build a
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  race winning car. Stephen stumpfrancher.com
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  Speaking of dominating, you LED 274 the final 275 laps and in
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  between your checkered flag in 2015 to the one here, you LED
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  four 1410 laps here. You know, does dominating, you
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  know, just make it that much sweeter?
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  And just how frustrating was that, you know, dry spell here
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  looking back on it now that you've ended it?
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  Yeah. I mean, I, I somewhat answered
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  it with my last question, but I, I felt all wins are created
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  equal on the stat sheet. Not all wins are created equal
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  in your mentality. You know, when you have a
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  dominating win, it's like, Oh yeah, I, I did everything right,
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  the team did everything right. The pit crew execute perfectly.
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  Like when we are on it's it can be deadly.
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  And and so, you know, if you go in and if you win because the
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  first two took each other out and like your third, like, yeah,
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  you won. And on the stat it counts all
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  the same. But I'm telling you mentally, it
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  doesn't give you that sense of that gratifying win that wins
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  like this do for me. Danny, we've seen you get hot
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  after a win. And we're going to Darlington
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  and Bristol over the next couple weeks.
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  So I'm just curious if it's going this win today is
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  dominating as it was, gives you the pace to do what you did for
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  the next couple weeks. I hope so.
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  I mean, this is, you know, truthfully that the schedule's
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  really nice to me over, you know, over the last month and
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  then kind of the next month, you know, there's some good stuff,
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  good tracks for us. I mean, all of them can be good
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  tracks, but you know, tracks that I've won a lot at got great
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  feels for what I need at that track.
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  And then, you know, yeah, it's I hope this is a start of things
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  to come and, you know, we can build upon it that, you know,
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  it'd be great. But you know, we got about 24
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  hours to celebrate this. And then on the Cincinnati, as
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  they would say, and in the Arrow, where sponsorship is
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  everything, couple races were progressive and you got them
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  their first win and they went bonkers according to folks give.
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  How important is that for the number 11 team to win so early
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  with that? Well, I know it's a big thing
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  for them. You know, a lot of the reason
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  they're on my car is, you know, obviously some things, social
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  media with myself and the team and they know they're going to
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  be upfront. That's that's why they put their
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  name on the on the car is that, you know, by the numbers, the 11
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  car gets seen a lot and it's because it's upfront.
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  And so we're achieving their objectives right now.
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  Lots been made about all the changes that you've been through
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  this offseason with the crew chief change at FedEx leaves.
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  Now you bring in a new sponsor, Progressive, and you have the
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  outside noise of the lawsuit. And also lots been made.
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  All the talk to this weekend was, you know, it's been a
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  decade since he's won a Martinsville and you mentioned
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  when he walked in here, it felt like the old days.
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  How I mean, every Cup 1 is special.
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  You mentioned how special Martinsville is to you, but how
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  good is it to come here, dominate a race and know that
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  even amidst all that, you know, running well here now, winning
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  here is still a constant. No matter, I guess now we can
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  say no matter the area of your career because now you've won
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  here with the next Gen. car and and broken that 10 year drought
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  here. Well, I'm just going to have you
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  touch my hip for the rest of the week because you said it
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  perfectly and you said exactly how I feel it it you know, the,
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  the feeling is fantastic. Life is good right now.
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  I mean, I, I really have no complaints.
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  Things are going well. 2311 is putting themselves in the upper
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  echelon of the big three or whoever you want to say that
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  have dominated the sport for decades.
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  They are running with them and, and, and beating some of them
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  week in week out. So things are good.
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  You know, the five year plans working over there.
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  I still have it over here. Couldn't ask for much more.
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  Got a kid coming in two months so all's well.
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  What can? You say about Bubba's.
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  Progress to get. Two podium finishes back-to-back
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  and. He probably should.
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  Have had four top 10s by now. Yeah, I mean, they're, they're,
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  they're running like the 45 during the summer.
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  So you know, they're, I, I, I, I told you guys that that new crew
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  chief was going to be a game changer over there.
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  He's getting the most out of Bubba And, and I want to give
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  Bubba his due to like, it's not all the crew chief, but you
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  know, Bubba is really stepped up and, and been a leader with the
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  team. He's got a lot of confidence
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  right now, which goes a long, long way.
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  So I think he, he, he doesn't need change anything.
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  Just keep doing what he's doing. He's taking a big step from one
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  season to the next and and now it's like winds are going to
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  fall brighten his lap the way he's running right now.
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  Jacob Steelman race face digital Denny I thought today was going
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  to be the day that we had all four gifts cards in the top ten
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  tie up put together a really good run just didn't pan out
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  because of a spin late. You've been the veteran at JGR
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  and kind of I'm sure I've seen him through this, this tough
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  start to the season. Have you given him any advice
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  or, or what you know, have you seen out of him that may make
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  you think coach was in here and said that he thinks Ty's day is
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  coming soon. What have you seen from him
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  lately that might agree with that?
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  Well, I mean, truthfully, I don't, I don't see a whole lot
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  of them outside a racetrack. But you know, he he asked today
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  what what should he do? How does he turn this thing
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  around? And my, my advice was just,
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  you're not going to get it all back in one week.
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  And you know, that's, that is what I see most young guys try
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  to do is if they make a mistake, they end up compounding it with
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  multiple mistakes over and over and over.
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  And they just can't get out of making mistakes.
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  And it's like at some point you got to just how can I get
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  through the day with a green race?
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  That's not, you know, he got spun today, but it's like, how
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  can I just get through with a decent finish?
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  I don't really want a good finish.
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  You got to get a decent finish build on that.
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  You know, I, I said people are going to run into you today and
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  you got you can't let that stuff get to you.
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  I'm going to get right into, but it's just you, you have to be
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  able to be mentally strong enough to, you know, let that
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  stuff go. And and certainly it's really
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  easy to hit the panic button and say, you know, and things are
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  going as bad as they ever have. Can't can't get through a race
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  without problems. Everybody's out to get me.
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  But it's just you got to just have a quiet week and build on
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  that. And then then after that you
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  let's have a quiet week and finish five spots better like
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  it. You're just not going to get it
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  all back in one week. So you don't chase that.
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  Don't chase 3 wide middle if you don't have to on lap 25.
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  Like these races are really really long. 30% of your
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  competition will take themselves out every single week.
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  If you have a 12th place car, you will finish 8th if as long
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  as you don't screw up because others in front of you will.
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  So just keep that in mind and and I think that if you can, if
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  you can continue to have that type of mentality and not panic,
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  it will eventually turn. Clary Lang, this might be a mere
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  mortal kind of question, but you know, we always thought of you
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  as so Dang good here. And then you started telling us
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  your your information was shared amongst Joe Gibbs Racing, the
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  stuff you knew about this track. Then the car changed and it was
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  like, well, the car is different.
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  So my secrets no longer work for those of us who don't get to see
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  the data, right? I envision the headline being
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  Denny is still good here. And there's so much talk about
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  rhythm. Every driver yesterday talked
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  about rhythm here. Is it the possibility that you
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  are still just going to be able to be good at a track despite
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  the new car, despite the secrets that you had?
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  And you know, it's kind of hard to explain unless you're a
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  driver, but maybe you could help.
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  Yeah, I mean, it's a good point. You know, I've been able to win
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  in many different types of cars and many different types of
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  tires and aero changes and all that stuff.
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  But you know, one thing is constant with this small of a
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  racetrack, the approach that you make to be fast here is still
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  the same. So my dad always used to tell me
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  when we used to race different kinds of cars, he's like, it's
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  just a different machine. Figure out how to make that
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  machine go fast. And I know how to make, I know
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  how to make speed at this track. It's just what do I need to get
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  this next Gen. car to work and operate like I need it to to
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  make the lap time so it's just it's taken a little bit longer
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  yes advantages that you you know whoever finishing the top five
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  is going to be studying our information from now to October
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  and to and they're going to be better because of it.
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  So I have to figure out how to get that little bit more of an
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  edge over the field. And so did I.
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  Was my car perfect today? No, we're there's definitely
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  things that we can do to make better.
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  And I enjoy that process of continuing to get better even on
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  weekends. We went Matt Weaver, of course
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  not. We saw your tweets yesterday.
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  So we have a general idea of how you feel about the Xfinity
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  Series race. But I'm curious now that you had
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  a day to digest on that is, is this a blip of a one off a weird
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  thing that happened on Saturday? Or is there something that we,
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  the collective we need to do to address this so it doesn't
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  happen again? Yeah, I mean, we'll talk about
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  it a little bit tomorrow, but it's yeah, it's certainly I, I
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  think that the sanction body needs to get involved a little
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  bit and, and, you know, step in on egregious things.
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  I think it's, it's continued to ramp up, right?
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  It's, you know, we've seen this stuff and, and it used to only
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  happen on green, white checkers. And then this place it, it
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  seemed like inside 20 to go, people would lose their minds.
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  And then those guys yesterday did it with 50 to go, just
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  absolutely just creaming each other.
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  And so it just was horrible driving by most of the people
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  out there. And you know, it's, it's just
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  not a good look. And certainly you shouldn't be
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  able to just wipe someone out egregiously like what happened
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  at the end of the race yesterday that, you know, certainly we we
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  have a Black Flag for a reason. And and I think we should start
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  using it. David Meadow stall news Danny
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  how does it feel to to win here at your hometown, one of your
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  hometown tracks for one And how hard is it to get your mindset
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  from a local beating a bang short track to the lady in black
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  and Dalton next week carrying the momentum from winning this
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  week hopefully into getting back into vigilante Dalton next week
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  yeah I mean my focus for Darlington won't start till
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  really kind of Tuesday. You know even tonight and
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  tomorrow will be consumed about in my mind of like how I could
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  be better here. I have some ideas to to download
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  with the team on how I can get a little bit better.
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  And so the, the momentum is there, right?
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  It surely when you win, there is momentum.
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  But NASCAR racing does not care about momentum.
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  You can be first one week and last the next week.
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  And that's, you know, that's kind of the beauty of it is
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  those that, you know, the 35 guys that lost today, you know,
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  believe that seven days from now they're going to win.
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  And so it's the great thing about our sport that it's got
• 23:41
  ebbs and flows like that. But certainly we feel like we're
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  doing a lot of right things and certainly can can contend no
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  matter what the racetrack, especially a track like
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  Darlington.