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Olga Ivshina: BBC Senior Russia reporter on the latest developments between Russia and Ukraine · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Ukraine and Russia have the meeting an Istanbul. They've agreed
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  Speaker 1: for more prisoner of prisoners of war to be exchanged,
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  Speaker 1: to be swapped. It's good news, but at the same
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  Speaker 1: time you've got Ukraine bombing the hell and joining the
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  Speaker 1: hell drone bombing the hell out of some pretty significant
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  Speaker 1: infrastructure for Russia. Olga if Shina is a BBC senior
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  Speaker 1: Russia reporter with us this morning. Oga, Hello, welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the show. Hello, thank you so much, good to have
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  Speaker 1: you back. Tell me what's happening. First with the prisoner exchange.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they agreed on a quite big prisoner swap. It's actually,
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  Speaker 2: it seems so far. First of all six thousand bodies
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  Speaker 2: in exchange for six thousand dead bodies. Secondly, it's exchange
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  Speaker 2: of your all young prisoners of war at the age
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  Speaker 2: between eighteen and twenty five. And hopefully it's also exchange
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  Speaker 2: of all severely wounded personnel. So possibly it's not. Definitely
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  Speaker 2: it's not happening in the next few days. So they
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  Speaker 2: agreed to continue to talk about this, to establish medical commissions,
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  Speaker 2: negotiating groups to agree on exact lists of people. So
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  Speaker 2: possibly it will happen in a few stages as we
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  Speaker 2: have seen in the previous round of exchanges. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there is at least something going on, but unfortunately it's
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  Speaker 2: not bringing us any closer to the end of hostilities,
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  Speaker 2: any closer to the end of this war.
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  Speaker 1: No, And let's talk about that. The Western media is
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  Speaker 1: reporting that a sizable portion of the fleet that Moscow
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  Speaker 1: would used to launch guided missile attacks on Ukraine but
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  Speaker 1: also attacks potentially nuclear attacks on other countries, that they
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  Speaker 1: were damaged or destroyed by these Ukrainian attacks over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Is that true? How significant is this for Russia?
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  Speaker 2: Well, definitely, the loss even of one strategic bomber is
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  Speaker 2: very significant because at the moment Russia is not able
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  Speaker 2: to replicate it quickly, so even one plane, loss of
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  Speaker 2: one plane is very significant. So Ukraine claims it targeted
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  Speaker 2: I think six air bases. The footage. Air footage confirms
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  Speaker 2: definitely that at least two air bases were hit, possibly
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  Speaker 2: up to forty different planes. Russian mood has confirmed that
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  Speaker 2: several planes were hait. Ukraine says around forty. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: from the verified footage we can see at least a
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  Speaker 2: few planes, definitely more than five. But as I said,
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  Speaker 2: even though loss of one plane is important, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's also important to underline it's not just Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: striking Russia. You know, Russia has launched a tremendous amount
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  Speaker 2: of at rockhead and also drawne attacks on Ukraine in
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  Speaker 2: the recent days and weeks, So it's not just one side.
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  Speaker 2: It Both sides have increased the number of strikes on
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  Speaker 2: each other's territory.
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  Speaker 1: Does yeah, you're absolutely right, but this does a strike
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  Speaker 1: like this put Persian in some kind of corner? Does
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  Speaker 1: it make molash out?
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  Speaker 2: It's a good question. But to answer that, you need
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  Speaker 2: to answer the question whether Russians, especially outside of Moscow
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  Speaker 2: know about this tribe, because, of course State TV is
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  Speaker 2: not talking about it in a great detail. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: mold Russian mood is downplaying the scale of losses. And
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  Speaker 2: also we see that, you know, apart from some big cities,
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  Speaker 2: the population tries to shield off the news about the
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  Speaker 2: invasion because they are very tired and they try to
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  Speaker 2: perceive their own lives. So do people know about that?
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's that's a big, big question. And Putting
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care that much about his image in the West.
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  Speaker 2: He's pretty happy with the with the imager he has
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  Speaker 2: already produced, and internally, you know, not that many people
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  Speaker 2: possibly have noticed it at the you know, because it's
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  Speaker 2: more than three years of invasion now, right. But I
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  Speaker 2: think what is important is that, Yeah, of course, internationally
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  Speaker 2: Putting does look not as bright as strong as he
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  Speaker 2: would like to be. Of course, it's a hit for
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  Speaker 2: Russian security service, especially domestic security face beat, from which
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  Speaker 2: mister Putin sort of tracks, you know, where he used
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  Speaker 2: to serve many years ago. So yeah, it's a definitely
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  Speaker 2: big hit for his ego, but not for the morale
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  Speaker 2: of the Russian population on the whole.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting IgA, always good to speak with you, Thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much. Og If Shina the BABC Same Russia reporter with.
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