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Lunch with the Clydesdale - 8 Football Playoff Games in 5 Days! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  When it comes to CrossFit,
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  there's one guarantee.
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  People talk way too much.
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  There are no secrets.
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  It's up next.
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  I love the chase and the hunt.
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  And I set the pace when I'm running.
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  I always take what I want.
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  And I always give it one hundred.
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  Don't need a bank.
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  No, I'm funded.
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  Play the game like it's nothing.
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  I'm always thankful for something.
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  Don't take for granted.
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  Stay humble.
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  Now wake up.
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  It's time to look at the enemy.
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  Look in the mirror.
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  If he is no friend to me,
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  it's not working out.
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  Maybe it's the chemistry.
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  It's time to break up.
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  So I can make a better me.
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  it's lunch time what is going on everybody
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  welcome to lunch with the clydesdale here
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  we are again taking a break from the
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  busy work day i've got it is such
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  a crazy week i thank goodness thank
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  goodness i get to speak with you guys
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  every day
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  What's going on Meredith, Frida,
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  John George.
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  I messed up the scheduling of the show
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  today.
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  I apologize for that off the top.
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  I initially set it for eight p.m.
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  Then John George made it clear to me
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  that I scheduled it for dinner with the
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  Clydesdale instead of for lunch with the
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  Clydesdale.
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  The breaks of doing things way early in
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  the morning and trying to keep up.
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  so we got it all corrected it's now
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  scheduled for we got it up and running
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  got it just in the nick of time
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  but hopefully the notifiers got out to
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  everybody but you all know we're here
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  every day
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  um so there we are uh first thing
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  first don't forget to like and subscribe
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  subscribe button it's a huge help to the
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  show and it's totally totally free doesn't
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  commit you to anything just tells us you
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  like us um
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  Then next thing I've got to talk about
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  is happy,
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  happy birthday to Carolyn Prevost.
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  Today is her birthday.
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  So wish her,
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  if you see her on the gram or
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  any of that stuff,
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  make sure to wish her a happy birthday.
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  She's been such a great addition to this
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  channel.
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  I appreciate her so much and I hope
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  she has the happiest of birthdays today.
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  So.
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  That's all out of the way.
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  I gotta confess to you guys,
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  I am really,
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  really struggling this week to focus on
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  anything but the Bears playoff game this
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  week.
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  It's been five years since the Bears have
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  been in the playoffs.
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  The last time they were there was the
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  COVID year.
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  They have not won a playoff game since
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  So I am hoping,
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  hoping upon hope that we have a good
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  weekend.
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  But it is a crazy,
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  crazy football weekend starting Thursday
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  night.
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  With college football and the NFL,
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  there will be eight playoff games,
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  eight win or go home games between
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  Thursday and Monday night.
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  Um,
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  so a lot of football action if you're
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  into the football thing.
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  Um, so super stoked there.
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  Um,
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  there is a college football playoff game
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  Thursday night, Friday night,
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  and then two NFL games Saturday,
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  three on Sunday and one to finish up
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  the weekend on Monday night.
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  Um, so super fun stuff.
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  If you're into the football thing,
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  I can't wait for all of that.
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  Now, catch my breath.
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  What's going on, Jody?
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  Kenneth, Amanda, Kenneth,
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  I'll have a shot of maple syrup in
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  Carolyn's honor.
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  That is so nice of you.
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  I love maple syrup, but the real stuff,
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  not like the Aunt Jemima pancake syrup or
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  whatever other brands are out there,
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  Log Cabin, whatever else.
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  But man, you get like pure maple syrup.
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  It is so, so good.
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  Maple is one of my favorite flavors in
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  the entire world.
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  It's probably why I'm a Canadian-based
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  show or leaning show as I'm accused of
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  by Kenneth all the time.
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  But yeah, for my birthday,
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  my wife made me French toast and we
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  got real for live maple syrup and it
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  was so, so good.
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  I can only eat about
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  a piece maybe two if i push it
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  um because like it just it hits my
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  stomach really bad with that much sugar in
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  it but i only get it like once
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  a year on my birthday so that's when
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  i splurge two pieces of french toast uh
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  and some real maple syrup so
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  Yesterday, it's been leaked,
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  and that's kind of going to be the
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  theme of today's show.
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  Apparently,
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  there are leaks all over the place going
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  on right now.
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  Let me start with this.
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  This morning,
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  I watched Boys Interrupted Live.
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  It was leaked that the Chad workout
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  standard was leaked before the CrossFit
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  Games in twenty twenty four.
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  And they were giving Dallin crap because
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  he had the standard that he was practicing
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  on and others did not have it.
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  We had speculated that.
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  We had speculated that people knew.
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  There were video out there of people with
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  the box set up like what happened at
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  the CrossFit Games.
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  But they actually full out admitted it
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  this morning on Boys Interrupted.
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  So there were leaks on that workout.
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  Then you go to what's happening with CBG
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  and Chattanooga is kind of putting it out
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  there.
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  Leaks or rats.
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  CBG is offering a five hundred dollar cash
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  reward.
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  showed it on camera um for anybody who
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  exposes the leaks that are saying that the
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  crossfit games athletes that use his
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  program are not actually using the program
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  and he's offering a reward to identify the
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  rat
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  Everything CBG does is over the top.
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  That's kind of his brand.
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  This seems like such like eighties mafia
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  movie, pulling out a wad of cash,
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  offering money for the rat just seems over
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  the top.
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  I don't even know the details of
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  everything that's going,
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  going on with him, but good God, man,
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  like you run a business and I know,
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  I know you're so over the top.
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  He wears like the eighties sunglasses and
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  the chains and he does the stuff and
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  And I've actually talked to him quite a
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  bit.
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  It's just everything is kind of over the
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  top.
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  And then to come on when people are
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  saying that there's, I guess,
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  some evidence out there that people are
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  truly not using your program,
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  even though they say they do.
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  Shocking.
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  That happens in marketing and campaigns
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  all the time.
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  Now you're coming out, defending yourself,
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  looking like an eighties mafia guy,
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  pulling out your wad of cash.
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  All you need to do is roll it
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  up with a rubber band and say, Hey,
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  I'm offering money for the rat.
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  Tell me the rat.
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  Tell me the rat.
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  I'll give you some money.
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  What the hell dude?
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  Come on, man.
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  It just,
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  there's better ways to deal with it than
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  that.
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  Um,
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  guess he threw a two hundred dollar super
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  chat into a podcast last night uh saying
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  defending himself i'm not sure that is
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  everything that is the way to clear your
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  name or to make people think it's less
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  cringy it's so damn over the top throwing
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  money at it is not the answer
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  Cause that's kind of what you're accused
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  of.
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  You're accused of throwing money at
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  athletes to get your name out there,
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  to make your company bigger.
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  And now your solution to it is to
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  throw more money at it and just show
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  money.
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  You show people you have some money to
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  kind of clear your name.
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  And it, it's real bad PR move,
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  real bad PR move.
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  Um,
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  But it's just starting.
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  It's on his Instagram this morning.
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  He did a real show in the cash,
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  offering the money to find the rat.
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  But if you're in this business too,
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  and if you're in CrossFit,
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  let's look at the other side of this.
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  What has let you believe that CrossFitters
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  can keep a secret?
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  I think if you are in the CrossFit
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  space and you watch what's going on,
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  the one thing that you know is that
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  people are going to talk about what's
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  going on.
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  People are going to tell the secrets they
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  know.
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  It's happened this year alone with like
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  James spilling the beans about some stuff
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  that he was doing with Dave Castro earlier
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  in the year.
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  Um, it, and I, it,
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  I don't think it's all intentional or it's
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  all like in a, um, vindictive way.
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  I think sometimes these athletes are just
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  young and they,
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  they haven't learned discretion yet.
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  Um, it's.
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  And so if you're in business with these
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  athletes and they're nineteen, twenty,
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  twenty one, twenty four.
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  I'm not sure you can actually release
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  information to them and expect them to
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  keep it a secret.
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  And so to think that you can trust
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  people not to talk about what's going on
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  in this space,
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  you're not paying attention.
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  You're just not because...
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  And I've been in this space since two
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  thousand eleven.
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  I joined a CrossFit gym two thousand
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  eleven.
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  I volunteered for CrossFit events from two
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  thousand thirteen on.
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  People talk all the time and they talk
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  very openly.
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  There are no repercussions for talking.
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  And so they just say things.
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  So if you're in the business side of
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  CrossFit and you're working with these
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  athletes,
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  one expectation you cannot have is that
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  they're going to keep their mouth shut
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  during this time.
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  They're just not.
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  So now to be upset and flash your
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  cash to find the rat, dude,
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  you didn't have the right expectations
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  going in.
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  People are going to talk.
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  It's what happens in this world.
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  Crossfitters cannot keep the trap shut.
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  They just can't.
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  So for you to expect that and then
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  to come out and play the victim and
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  throw around some cash and say, hey,
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  I'm going to find the rat.
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  I'm going to find the person who exposed
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  me because I'm Joe Mafia.
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  It's too much.
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  Too much.
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  So.
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  speaking of leaks um it appears that john
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  wooley has been talking to some people and
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  found out that indianapolis is going to be
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  a tour stop on the wfp again this
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  year
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  don't have a lot of details on that.
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  Don't have like when that is.
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  Um,
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  there are rumors that it's the second tour
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  stop.
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  They're going to start in Europe and then
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  do a second tour stop in Indianapolis.
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  And I think they've already announced that
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  Copenhagen is going to be the final tour
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  stop.
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  So if they back down to three tour
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  stops again, that would be it.
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  You go Europe, Indianapolis,
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  and then back to Copenhagen.
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  Um, we don't know that for sure.
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  Some of that speculation, um,
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  But if they are in Indianapolis,
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  I'm going to try to go.
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  I've been dogging on them for...
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  With my smear campaigns for the last
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  little bit,
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  I want to go see it in person.
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  Indianapolis is two and a half hours away.
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  I'll drive over.
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  If I can't get media because I haven't
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  been really kind to them lately,
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  I will buy a ticket.
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  I will go in and I just want
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  to see what it's like live.
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  like all everything i've judged on is what
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  i've seen from their actions around the
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  sport and on the streams i want to
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  go see it in person and to see
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  if it's any better um
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  So I'm hoping that it is in Indianapolis,
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  and I'm hoping I can drive over and
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  at least catch a little bit of it
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  so I can give a more honest opinion.
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  Well, not more honest,
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  but a more complete opinion after seeing
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  it in person.
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  So, uh,
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  that is my hope that they are actually
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  in Indianapolis.
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  Now I want to say one more thing
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  about John Woolley.
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  Uh,
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  I know he gets ripped on a little
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  bit in the space, but man,
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  these little mini pods he does,
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  I don't always agree with him, but man,
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  it,
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  he really has found something that isn't
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  being done in the space doing these short
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  little mini pods on Instagram.
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  And, uh,
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  I don't always agree,
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  but they always make me think.
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  And they're very consumable.
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  It's very easy to digest in a short
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  amount of time.
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  And I just want to say kudos to
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  finding a different approach to things.
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  There's so many podcasts out there.
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  There's so many...
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  media outlets out there right now to do
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  something different in a short form is
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  really something different.
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  And I applaud him and they make me
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  think.
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  And a lot of times he makes sense
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  with things.
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  Sometimes I don't agree.
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  Sometimes I don't think it makes sense,
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  but I've always listened and it always
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  makes me think about the situation.
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  So kudos to him for finding that.
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  Yeah.
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  Prescott to, man, Prescott Ocigi.
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  I didn't try it.
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  His Ravens lost to the Steelers.
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  What a freaking crazy game.
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  If you're a Ravens fan,
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  that had to be heartbreaking.
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  Thank goodness my wife is a Steeler fan
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  and she's happy for a week.
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  Congratulations to your bear, Scott.
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  Yeah.
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  I wish we weren't limping into the
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  playoffs.
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  I wish we could have won a game
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  and not gone in with a two-game losing
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  streak,
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  but we're here and we get a shot,
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  so I'm happy about that.
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  Chad Anufi back on the CBG guy.
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  He's one of those people who word things
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  very specifically for a reason.
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  Yeah,
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  I just don't think he set himself up
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  with the right expectations.
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  I really don't.
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  And what's going on Lito?
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  So looks like Kenneth and Joseph are
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  making a deal to split the ransom money.
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  There you go.
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  Just be careful.
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  Don't mess up.
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  You might end up with a horse in
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  your bed in the morning.
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  Horse head.
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  Horse head in your bed in the morning.
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  It's hard to say.
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  Anyway.
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  So
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  another thing I wanted to talk about, I,
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  I was listening to the Monday night
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  CrossFit crew, uh,
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  from the WOD prep podcast,
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  which is really hard to say fast.
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  Um,
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  with CJ and Claire and John Young,
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  a couple of things I wanted to talk
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  about.
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  They talked about athleticism,
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  which we've talked about a lot on this
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  show.
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  And the reason we talk about it a
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  lot is I don't think that CrossFit
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  actually tests athleticism very much.
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  And
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  And everything is straightforward.
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  Like, if you're doing CrossFit,
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  you're moving forward and back,
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  but there's not a lot of lateral movement.
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  And really,
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  it's just testing skills and not necessary
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  athleticism.
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  The adaptability, the sprinting...
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  And the one comp that always tests
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  athleticism, at least in one event,
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  is Rogue.
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  When Rogue does the duels,
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  that is the best test of athleticism that
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  I've seen in the CrossFit space.
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  But it doesn't happen a lot.
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  And you can tell who the athletes are
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  by who does well in the duel.
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  When you look at the over-under on those
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  logs and you see how people get over
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  and slide under or dive under,
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  you can tell the people that play other
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  sports.
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  And our birthday girl, Carolyn Prevost,
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  is a prime example of that.
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  She is so athletic.
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  If you watch her Instagram,
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  some of the stuff she does by like
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  bounding over hurdles and stuff like that
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  is crazy.
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  But you look at like that event and
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  you can tell who did other sports.
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  Like Jason Hopper is athletic.
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  Ricky Garrard is athletic.
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  He played rugby before he came into the
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  sport.
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  Carolyn Prevo,
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  Paige Semenza played ice hockey as well.
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  Danny Spiegel is super athletic.
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  Laura Horvat, super athletic.
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  Tia Toomey is super athletic.
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  You can tell that those people played
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  other sports before they jumped into
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  CrossFit.
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  So I think it's kind of great that
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  at least one competition, big competition,
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  actually has an athletic test.
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  What I miss from the CrossFit Games is
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  they used to do that with the sprints,
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  the sprint obstacle course.
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  If you remember the famous video of Dan
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  Bailey losing his sunglasses as he hurtled
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  over an object,
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  That was in and out lateral movement,
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  jumping over objects and sprinting to the
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  end.
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  That tested athleticism.
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  I don't think we do that enough anymore.
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  the famous twenty nineteen games where
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  people got eliminated because they
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  couldn't stay inside their lines going
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  around objects as part of the sprint they
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  would step outside the lines and get a
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  penalty which cost them their games
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  weekend many of them the penalty was so
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  severe they fell off and and could not
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  recover from that and ended up getting cut
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  from the games um
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  That hasn't happened since then.
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  There has not been a sprint course.
• 20:42
  There has not been anything like that to
• 20:45
  test that athleticism.
• 20:48
  Before the sprints,
• 20:49
  there was the obstacle course,
• 20:51
  the full obstacle course.
• 20:53
  Or Mark Phillips reminds us of Matt
• 20:55
  Frazier and Patrick Vellner's fancy rope
• 20:57
  dismounts.
• 20:58
  Yes.
• 21:01
  It's adding something to the mix that you
• 21:03
  have to adapt to quickly and show
• 21:07
  athleticism to get up and over,
• 21:09
  to go balance on the top of logs,
• 21:12
  to swing from ropes and land on a
• 21:15
  log.
• 21:16
  Those are things that we don't test for
• 21:19
  anymore.
• 21:21
  And I really, really miss it.
• 21:24
  And so I'm really glad that like CJ
• 21:26
  and Claire and John brought this up last
• 21:28
  night because it's a great discussion
• 21:29
  point.
• 21:31
  Um,
• 21:32
  And if you watched Andrew Hiller's video
• 21:36
  on his reconstructed WFP,
• 21:40
  where he looked at things like this stop
• 21:43
  would be a strength-biased test.
• 21:47
  This stop would be a skills gymnastics
• 21:51
  bias test.
• 21:52
  And then the last one would be a
• 21:54
  combination to test all the different
• 21:56
  things, right?
• 22:00
  And so...
• 22:03
  one of the things that he brought up
• 22:05
  was a very similar NFL combine type of
• 22:09
  event.
• 22:09
  And they talked about this last night and
• 22:11
  they talked about it being like each
• 22:13
  aspect of the NFL combine being like a
• 22:16
  twenty point test.
• 22:18
  Not sure like that was well thought out.
• 22:21
  If you have thirty members doing it,
• 22:22
  how do you split the points where there's
• 22:26
  not just a lot of zeros?
• 22:29
  But the one thing I want to ask
• 22:30
  you,
• 22:32
  is my friend,
• 22:33
  and I love him to death,
• 22:36
  John Young said that if they did an
• 22:38
  NFL combine and he did it,
• 22:41
  he would be able to finish top five
• 22:43
  against the CrossFit Games athletes.
• 22:48
  Now, I applaud John's confidence.
• 22:52
  I applaud his belief in himself,
• 22:55
  but I find it very,
• 22:57
  very hard to believe that
• 22:59
  That John Young going up against the Ricky
• 23:02
  Garrards and the Jason Hoppers of the
• 23:04
  world and the Dallin Peppers would finish
• 23:08
  top five against those men in an NFL
• 23:12
  combine style test.
• 23:20
  So Kenneth says, J.Y.
• 23:21
  is a very powerful athlete.
• 23:24
  So what I will give him is his
• 23:26
  bench press.
• 23:28
  Not with that pec right now.
• 23:29
  Apparently, the pec's not so bad.
• 23:31
  He said last night he actually got up
• 23:33
  on the rings and did some muscle-ups,
• 23:35
  so it's not as bad as they thought.
• 23:39
  J.Y.
• 23:40
  may be a very powerful athlete,
• 23:42
  and he may dominate the bench press.
• 23:45
  But when you're talking like three-cone
• 23:47
  drill, forty-yard dash, vertical leap,
• 23:53
  all of those other things,
• 23:55
  I don't see him competing with the best
• 23:58
  in the world at CrossFit.
• 24:01
  So, Mark Phillips,
• 24:06
  bench is the only strength component,
• 24:07
  right?
• 24:08
  The rest is jumping speed, agility.
• 24:09
  Correct.
• 24:10
  Yeah,
• 24:11
  that's kind of what I'm pointing out.
• 24:15
  don't see him like beating people at a
• 24:17
  three cone drill or um beating people to
• 24:20
  vertical i think people are going to be
• 24:22
  able to jump higher than john um uh
• 24:29
  john george john young face palm palm face
• 24:33
  whatever that's called and then laughs yes
• 24:35
  mark phillips i don't see it uh john
• 24:38
  gets more full of the odor he gets
• 24:43
  Yeah, Jeremy,
• 24:44
  it's the guy telling the fishing story and
• 24:47
  the fish keeps getting longer and longer
• 24:49
  as the more he tells the story.
• 24:52
  John is a fairly big dude too.
• 24:54
  So you're talking like vertical or,
• 24:58
  and I think they do like a standing
• 24:59
  broad jump too, right?
• 25:01
  Which actually was a games event back in
• 25:02
  the day.
• 25:04
  There's no way with his size,
• 25:07
  he's going to compete with some of those
• 25:09
  other athletes.
• 25:10
  He just isn't.
• 25:12
  I'll give him the bench press.
• 25:15
  He might even win the bench press.
• 25:17
  Probably would win the bench press.
• 25:20
  But I don't see him winning any top
• 25:22
  five in the vertical, in the broad jump,
• 25:25
  in the forty-yard dash.
• 25:26
  I just don't see it.
• 25:33
  Chattanooga,
• 25:33
  if you make it an off-season podcaster
• 25:35
  challenge, let's see Seve's combine too.
• 25:41
  My money's on Hiller.
• 25:45
  In the podcast world... Yeah,
• 25:51
  Hiller's a good choice.
• 25:56
  I would go with my Carolyn Priva, though.
• 26:00
  My Jamie Latimer.
• 26:03
  I think they would do pretty damn good.
• 26:05
  They would lose the bench...
• 26:08
  But Carolyn's vertical's got to be good.
• 26:10
  Her broad jump's got to be great.
• 26:13
  If you saw her broad jump onto the
• 26:15
  box, it was mind-blowing.
• 26:21
  Yeah,
• 26:22
  Adrian Conway would be really damn good.
• 26:25
  Yeah, Adrian probably wins.
• 26:27
  Nice call, Kenneth.
• 26:32
  Former college football player now and
• 26:36
  games athlete and now
• 26:39
  Podcaster, yeah, it's probably that.
• 26:43
  John George,
• 26:44
  this is coming from a guy that eats
• 26:46
  McDonald's on the regular.
• 26:47
  He would be dead last overall.
• 26:49
  Sorry, John.
• 26:55
  Well, damn, now, Jason, I'm not counting.
• 26:57
  If you're an athlete,
• 26:59
  a current competing athlete,
• 27:01
  I don't count you as part of the
• 27:02
  podcast world.
• 27:03
  This is just a side hustle to your
• 27:05
  main gig.
• 27:12
  Frida,
• 27:12
  with athletes being more and more focused
• 27:14
  on CrossFit,
• 27:15
  their capacity in something like that will
• 27:17
  become less.
• 27:18
  I don't disagree with you.
• 27:19
  And I do think it should be tested.
• 27:21
  And I do think they should find ways
• 27:23
  to test athleticism.
• 27:25
  But even at a lesser capacity,
• 27:28
  I think that five of them beat John,
• 27:32
  if not more.
• 27:41
  What I find cool about Carolyn is Carolyn
• 27:43
  keeps training it because it's fun.
• 27:45
  She just trains it because it gives her
• 27:47
  a break from her normal workout day.
• 27:50
  And if you have not seen her sitting
• 27:52
  broad jump onto a box, that's athletic.
• 28:01
  I don't care who you are.
• 28:04
  That thing blew me away.
• 28:08
  and to not be fearful that the box
• 28:10
  would slide out from under my feet when
• 28:12
  i hit it because of the horizontal
• 28:15
  momentum going towards the box and trying
• 28:19
  to land on top and keeping it from
• 28:21
  sliding while you land unreal unreal um
• 28:31
  chata nufi uh that video is i think
• 28:35
  those are thumbs up or stars stars
• 28:40
  Oh, bananas.
• 28:41
  Those are bananas.
• 28:43
  Yeah.
• 28:43
  I had to find the right lens in
• 28:45
  my bifocals, Chetanufi.
• 28:50
  All I could think of was my shins.
• 28:54
  Yeah.
• 28:57
  So then they got into this talk about
• 29:00
  what is the ideal body type for a
• 29:02
  CrossFitter.
• 29:05
  And we don't need to go over it
• 29:07
  a lot,
• 29:07
  but I do think that back in the
• 29:09
  day, body type was a big deal.
• 29:14
  There was a time where the Rich Froning
• 29:16
  body type was definitely more advantageous
• 29:21
  than anything else on the men's side for
• 29:25
  sure.
• 29:26
  And anybody who kind of came in that
• 29:27
  was an outlier didn't necessarily do as
• 29:30
  well.
• 29:31
  On the lower side, like Chris Spieler,
• 29:34
  on the upper side,
• 29:35
  it wasn't until Brent Fikowski came that a
• 29:39
  taller athlete even had a shot.
• 29:42
  And...
• 29:44
  hit home runs and things that weren't
• 29:46
  lifting.
• 29:48
  There was a time where some taller
• 29:49
  athletes came in and killed the lifts,
• 29:51
  but nothing else.
• 29:54
  And then Brent kind of came and changed
• 29:56
  everything.
• 29:58
  And he probably doesn't get enough credit
• 29:59
  for that because when Brent came in,
• 30:02
  he was a unicorn.
• 30:03
  He was the only taller athlete that was
• 30:06
  able to compete with the Matt Frazers,
• 30:09
  with the Pat Vellners,
• 30:11
  with all of those people.
• 30:14
  And now when you look at the field,
• 30:17
  it's pretty much all Brents.
• 30:20
  It's Hopper.
• 30:21
  It's Sprague.
• 30:23
  They're all in that.
• 30:25
  Even Dallin is six foot.
• 30:29
  And so it's amazing how much things have
• 30:32
  shifted over to that taller athlete.
• 30:35
  And now the smaller you are,
• 30:37
  the more disadvantage you're at.
• 30:41
  And it probably goes down to all of
• 30:43
  these damn machines.
• 30:45
  Right?
• 30:48
  Exactly, John.
• 30:50
  John George, what's changed?
• 30:52
  The continued use of an increased of
• 30:54
  machines.
• 30:55
  Brent was a true unicorn.
• 30:57
  Great at classic CrossFit.
• 31:01
  Do you think the workouts reflect the
• 31:03
  bigger guys?
• 31:04
  I do.
• 31:04
  I think that the more machines,
• 31:05
  the more power output that has happened
• 31:10
  with those machines,
• 31:11
  the more these bigger athletes have an
• 31:13
  advantage.
• 31:15
  I do.
• 31:15
  But to give them credit,
• 31:17
  they're also really good at classic
• 31:18
  CrossFit.
• 31:21
  And they're getting better at it.
• 31:24
  So, you know, Jeremy says,
• 31:28
  shout out to Chad McKay,
• 31:30
  AJ Bartow for leading the way.
• 31:33
  The problem with AJ Bartow and Chad McKay
• 31:35
  is that they were good at some things,
• 31:39
  but they didn't have the balance that
• 31:43
  Brent had when he came into the world
• 31:46
  of CrossFit.
• 31:47
  Brent completely changed the game.
• 31:50
  He was the one of one,
• 31:52
  the unicorn that changed the game.
• 31:55
  And all these new athletes probably owe a
• 31:57
  lot to Brent in showing that it's
• 32:01
  possible.
• 32:02
  Like you have to have that first that
• 32:04
  comes into the sport and shows you that
• 32:07
  it, that can be done.
• 32:09
  And Brent did that for everybody.
• 32:12
  So, so huge shout out to him,
• 32:16
  but it, it, so I don't even,
• 32:19
  I think the ideal athlete now used to,
• 32:21
  it used to be when rich was there
• 32:23
  like five, six to five, eight and,
• 32:26
  um, a hundred and ninety pounds.
• 32:28
  That was kind of the ideal athlete.
• 32:30
  And I think now we're looking at six
• 32:32
  foot to six two and probably two hundred
• 32:34
  and ten pounds.
• 32:36
  So it definitely has swayed upwards into a
• 32:40
  much bigger athlete than we used to have.
• 32:46
  Do I think that carries over to the
• 32:47
  women's side too?
• 32:54
  I don't know.
• 32:57
  I do think the smaller athletes are at
• 32:59
  a much bigger disadvantage.
• 33:01
  You know,
• 33:04
  I used to go to CrossFit Polaris where
• 33:06
  Christy Aramo-O'Connell owned it.
• 33:09
  She was a much smaller athlete and she
• 33:12
  had to work her tail off to be
• 33:14
  competitive.
• 33:16
  like for her top ten was realistic,
• 33:19
  podiuming was not.
• 33:21
  She just couldn't,
• 33:23
  she just didn't have enough,
• 33:25
  like if you saw her on an echo
• 33:28
  bike,
• 33:29
  she could barely touch the pedals and the
• 33:33
  arms at the top.
• 33:34
  They actually,
• 33:35
  her husband customized one moving handles
• 33:40
  down to make them lower and
• 33:43
  And when they did that,
• 33:44
  her power output changed dramatically just
• 33:48
  in the design of the Echo bike because
• 33:51
  she could actually get behind the handles
• 33:54
  to really push.
• 33:57
  The way it is designed now,
• 33:59
  it was almost like it was above her
• 34:01
  head to push.
• 34:03
  And she couldn't get the power on it
• 34:05
  like she could when he moved the handle
• 34:07
  down.
• 34:10
  And I don't,
• 34:12
  I don't know why Rogue doesn't make a
• 34:14
  version for smaller athletes like that.
• 34:18
  You know, the row,
• 34:20
  you can only pull so far.
• 34:22
  Your pull strokes are only X, right?
• 34:26
  And then you go to, like, Laura,
• 34:28
  who's five-eight.
• 34:29
  Christy's five-two.
• 34:31
  That's six more inches that she can pull
• 34:33
  that rower.
• 34:36
  And then you look at a skier.
• 34:37
  For some athletes,
• 34:38
  they have to jump to get to the
• 34:39
  handles.
• 34:43
  So there is a very big disadvantage to
• 34:45
  the shorter athlete.
• 34:47
  I don't know if we've seen the trend
• 34:49
  upward in the average height and weight of
• 34:52
  the CrossFit athlete.
• 34:55
  Tia is a slighter athlete.
• 34:57
  She's not as small as Christy,
• 34:59
  but she's not as big as Laura.
• 35:01
  She's not as big as Katrin.
• 35:03
  And
• 35:05
  she has dominated so much and I think
• 35:06
  she's skewing the numbers,
• 35:09
  but Annie is taller than all of them.
• 35:12
  Annie won in two thousand eleven and two
• 35:14
  thousand twelve and she hasn't won since.
• 35:17
  So.
• 35:19
  I think that that is really.
• 35:23
  I don't think it is impacted the female
• 35:25
  side as much other than the very small
• 35:28
  athletes are at a very big disadvantage.
• 35:34
  Christy was so tiny.
• 35:35
  She really was.
• 35:42
  Amanda,
• 35:43
  I've hit myself in the face with Echo
• 35:44
  Bike handles.
• 35:46
  I don't even know what,
• 35:47
  like Rogue is so ingenious.
• 35:48
  I don't know why they don't have a
• 35:51
  way to lower the handles for a smaller
• 35:53
  athlete.
• 35:57
  It would actually decrease the gap between
• 36:01
  the taller and smaller athletes.
• 36:07
  Corey says, jump to get to the handles.
• 36:08
  You talked about me.
• 36:09
  Well, if the shoe fits, buddy.
• 36:16
  Do I have a big old Chicago Bears
• 36:18
  medallion on that thick chain necklace?
• 36:20
  No.
• 36:21
  No.
• 36:23
  I do not.
• 36:28
  Well,
• 36:28
  then you would have to change other
• 36:29
  standards like the width and a handstand
• 36:31
  push up for people with longer arms.
• 36:34
  Okay.
• 36:35
  Okay.
• 36:40
  I find the width of the parallettes when
• 36:42
  they go to deficit handstand pushups
• 36:45
  increasingly difficult for a taller
• 36:47
  athlete.
• 36:48
  So I don't disagree with you, Shannon.
• 36:50
  I think that they should allow them to
• 36:52
  spread them out a little bit more if
• 36:53
  they are a taller athlete.
• 37:07
  Frida,
• 37:07
  there were a lot of tiny athletes prior
• 37:09
  to twenty twenty one,
• 37:10
  but not so many now,
• 37:11
  I think I I don't disagree with you.
• 37:14
  I think that the tiny athletes are the
• 37:17
  outlier now.
• 37:22
  And Jeremy.
• 37:23
  Jeremy.
• 37:30
  To have your rival be your first playoff
• 37:32
  game in so long has me very,
• 37:36
  very stressed out.
• 37:37
  I hope I make it to Saturday.
• 37:39
  I hope.
• 37:45
  Corey says, five, six, one, eight, eight.
• 37:47
  As of this morning, sometimes I feel tiny.
• 37:53
  Because you are.
• 37:57
  So, so we talked about athleticism.
• 38:00
  We talked about body types.
• 38:02
  I do think it's changing dramatically.
• 38:04
  Um,
• 38:05
  and then the last thing I just wanted
• 38:06
  to touch on is, um,
• 38:08
  I watched Hiller's Brittany Weiss video
• 38:11
  yesterday.
• 38:12
  Great video.
• 38:14
  Talk about a cool chick, man.
• 38:15
  That she just seems to have her life
• 38:18
  in order and it was really, really cool.
• 38:21
  Um,
• 38:22
  I think I connected with it because she
• 38:25
  had a severe back injury.
• 38:30
  And it's,
• 38:30
  it was the same one that I had.
• 38:32
  And she talked about how her leg went
• 38:34
  numb and,
• 38:38
  and that she couldn't even like push on
• 38:39
  a gas pedal because she couldn't feel her
• 38:42
  leg.
• 38:43
  And I can really,
• 38:44
  really relate to that because I went
• 38:46
  through that.
• 38:49
  I had the same symptoms she had.
• 38:52
  The recovery was awful.
• 38:54
  Um, it's, it,
• 38:59
  it really gave me a connection to see
• 39:01
  what she fought through, um,
• 39:04
  to get back to where she is.
• 39:06
  And it's truly, truly a great, uh,
• 39:11
  day in the life or a couple of
• 39:12
  days in life, whatever it was.
• 39:15
  And she's really funny.
• 39:16
  She, um,
• 39:19
  Just a great video to watch.
• 39:22
  It's hard to describe because to me,
• 39:24
  I felt like it was less CrossFit and
• 39:25
  more about life and balance.
• 39:28
  And I really enjoyed that.
• 39:29
  It was very different than other things
• 39:31
  that are out there.
• 39:32
  And it's kind of like what I talk
• 39:34
  about with the WFP and their stuff that
• 39:37
  they're coming out.
• 39:38
  The stuff that they are bringing out is
• 39:40
  the same old, same old.
• 39:42
  I tried to watch the Future of Fitness
• 39:44
  video from the Buttery Bros.
• 39:46
  Oh my gosh,
• 39:47
  it's the same thing that I've seen for
• 39:49
  ten years.
• 39:52
  Where this Hiller one is completely,
• 39:54
  completely different.
• 39:56
  How she interacts with her family.
• 39:58
  How her mom's her best friend.
• 39:59
  How her dad doesn't work out.
• 40:03
  And teasing him about it.
• 40:04
  It was so, so good.
• 40:06
  Yeah.
• 40:08
  if you have not seen it make sure
• 40:09
  to go check it out um he does
• 40:11
  a really good job with it and i've
• 40:15
  interviewed brittany a couple times she's
• 40:16
  she's always been fun and energetic during
• 40:19
  interviews um i did some post event stuff
• 40:23
  at granite games with her she was awesome
• 40:26
  and uh and it was really fun to
• 40:29
  kind of see a day in the life
• 40:31
  with her
• 40:32
  And kudos to Hiller for putting that out.
• 40:35
  Because she's not a top five athlete.
• 40:39
  She's not a top ten athlete.
• 40:40
  Her goal is to make the CrossFit Games
• 40:43
  as an individual.
• 40:44
  Yeah, she won as a team.
• 40:45
  They talk about that.
• 40:46
  They talk about what does that mean.
• 40:49
  But she's not like your top five.
• 40:51
  And it was excellent.
• 40:53
  You got to learn about her.
• 40:54
  Now you want to root for her.
• 40:56
  and that's the stuff that that's the gold
• 40:58
  that i think um not taking the top
• 41:01
  ten the top five all the time and
• 41:03
  just exposing them over and over and over
• 41:06
  and over and over again and we know
• 41:08
  everything this was someone that i really
• 41:11
  wanted to learn more about it was awesome
• 41:13
  to get to know her and he did
• 41:14
  an excellent job in showing us like how
• 41:18
  goals can be different
• 41:20
  And how she doesn't want to do CrossFit
• 41:23
  the rest of her life as a sport.
• 41:25
  She wants to do it as a fitness
• 41:26
  thing.
• 41:27
  She wants to make the games.
• 41:29
  And then she wants to ride off in
• 41:30
  the sunset doing CrossFit as a class the
• 41:33
  rest of her life and having balance.
• 41:35
  And it was really, really cool.
• 41:43
  Jodi,
• 41:43
  I have a slightly different opinion of
• 41:45
  that expose.
• 41:45
  But overall,
• 41:46
  I think she's an accomplished athlete.
• 41:50
  Curious to know your thoughts.
• 41:55
  As apparently Jay Birch wants as curious
• 41:57
  to know thoughts as well.
• 42:01
  So I just found it very enjoyable.
• 42:08
  So
• 42:09
  Anything else on the docket people?
• 42:11
  I'll open it up to the chat.
• 42:12
  We got about three more minutes and then
• 42:14
  I've got to get back to work.
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  I do have an all day meeting on
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  Thursday.
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  Hopefully I can get away long enough to
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  do the show.
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  That's my only hiccup this week.
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  Other than that, we'll be here all day.
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  All week at lunch,
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  even if I post it for eight o'clock
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  at night, I'll be here at twelve fifteen.
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  Sometimes I just get in the groove because
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  my Sunday show is at eight o'clock.
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  That's what I hit.
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  Messed it up.
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  Um,
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  last thing I'm going to talk about is
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  third Z, um, third Z,
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  the stuff right there.
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  This stuff is awesome.
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  Uh, I am so much more energetic.
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  I'm sleeping so much better.
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  It gives me that recovery I need when
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  we're doing stuff around the house.
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  When I'm doing my light workouts,
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  it has that grass-fed beef collagen in it.
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  It's not melatonin.
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  Melatonin makes me feel awful.
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  This stuff doesn't.
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  Make sure thirdsy.com backslash jazzy gets
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  you fifteen percent off your order or just
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  go to thirdsy.com at checkout.
• 43:23
  Type in the code jazzy with jazz hands
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  and
• 43:30
  And there you go.
• 43:30
  Fifteen percent off your order.
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  Easy as that.
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  An all day meeting.
• 43:37
  Yuck.
• 43:38
  Yeah, it's.
• 43:41
  Yeah.
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  It's not even for my department.
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  A partner department is building a brand
• 43:48
  new system and we have to send information
• 43:50
  to them and we have to sit in
• 43:52
  an all-day meeting to make sure that we
• 43:54
  cover all the information that goes back
• 43:56
  and forth and that it is accurate and
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  they pull from the right tables and that
• 44:02
  they pull from... It sounds even more...
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  Yeah, double yuck.
• 44:07
  There you go.
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  Double yuck.
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  It is...
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  I am not looking forward to it.
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  I just got it like ten minutes before
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  this show, the meeting notice.
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  I truly hate meetings.
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  If I didn't have to meet ever,
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  ever again, I wouldn't.
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  And these ones are just mind-numbingly
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  boring.
• 44:34
  John George says, get a substitute.
• 44:36
  The problem with the substitute for the
• 44:38
  lunch show is...
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  that most of my people are busy during
• 44:43
  lunch uh jamie is at her gym uh
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  carolyn is at school and maybe we get
• 44:51
  corey there someday but i don't think he
• 44:53
  wants to do a solo show yet um
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  but maybe someday we'll get him there
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  we'll see
• 45:04
  And the other thing is you have to
• 45:05
  have control.
• 45:06
  You have to be able to sign into
• 45:07
  the stream yard to launch the show.
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  Frida, I completely agree with you.
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  I would rather see it in writing and
• 45:22
  write comments about it than to meet and
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  try to explain these things in verbal
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  communication.
• 45:31
  It's much better written communication to
• 45:33
  make sure we get everything accurate.
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  But people love meetings that I work with
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  and they're awful.
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  Not the people, but well,
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  some of the people.
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  But
• 45:47
  The meetings are definitely awful.
• 45:51
  With that,
• 45:51
  don't forget to like and subscribe to the
• 45:53
  channel.
• 45:53
  I appreciate it so much.
• 45:56
  Leave a comment.
• 45:58
  That helps the algorithm so much.
• 46:00
  And one last time,
• 46:01
  happy birthday to Carolyn.
• 46:05
  Hope she has a great day celebrating
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  today.
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  And we will talk to everybody next time
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  on Lunch with Clydesdale.
• 46:15
  Bye, guys.