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Hour Three | Nick Underhill, OTB Mailbag & Film Room · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 2: It's off the bench, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back here o TV hour number three here on
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  Speaker 3: this Tuesday morning. It is our number three. It is Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: So you know what that means. Nick Underhill, New Orleans
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  Speaker 3: Dot Football joins us. Now, Nicholas, how you doing, hey living?
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  Speaker 4: What's up? Sir?
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  Speaker 5: Doing good? Doing good? How you guys doing?
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  Speaker 4: Uh strong? Quite strong?
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  Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, good football weekend yet again. And
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  Speaker 3: I know the New Orleans Saints. We're not victorious. I
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  Speaker 3: know that, but still I'm saying that the development of
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  Speaker 3: this team is going in the right direction. And I
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  Speaker 3: think Spencer Ratler played great. So I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: positive here on this Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I think I think he played pretty well.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was just tough in the right direction.
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  Speaker 5: I thought he got better week over week, and I
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  Speaker 5: think that's what you want to see from a guy
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  Speaker 5: in his second season. And for all intents and purposes,
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  Speaker 5: his second start with other viable NFL players on the
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  Speaker 5: offense with him that last year. So ru I thought
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  Speaker 5: he played. I thought he played pretty good. I mean
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  Speaker 5: that that throtal a lot of it is one that
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  Speaker 5: kind of, you know, sticks in your craw a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: But other than that, I mean, man, he had two
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  Speaker 5: throws there that I thought probably, you know, if you
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  Speaker 5: made a top ten to fifteen list of you know,
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  Speaker 5: throws of the week across the NFL. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: think he has two strong candidates to get in there.
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  Speaker 5: The throw does she definitely, and the one that Juwan too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's got pressure coming at him, doesn't you know,
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  Speaker 5: have a great base that still gets the ball out
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  Speaker 5: like it's perfectly placed only where he's got can get it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I thought it was I thought it was
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  Speaker 5: a good performance for him. I'm encouraged, and you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 5: like you start looking at the second year players around
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  Speaker 5: the league at that position, he's certainly not at the
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  Speaker 5: bottom of the list.
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  Speaker 6: Of those guys.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I thought he he played better than McCarthy.
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, he played better than Penis at
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  Speaker 5: least this week. Kinex was pretty good week. What like
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  Speaker 5: he's he's he's playing ing well right now. I think
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  Speaker 5: he's showing you, you know, what you need to see.
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  Speaker 5: At some point, he's got to win a game. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, I think he's I think he's doing pretty
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  Speaker 5: well so far.
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  Speaker 7: You brought it up, you brought the throat to a
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  Speaker 7: lave up, and we were talking about that a little
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  Speaker 7: bit yesterday. You know, if a lotve is a true
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  Speaker 7: number one receiver in the NFL, they make that catch
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  Speaker 7: nine times out of ten. I mean you've seen you
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  Speaker 7: see ever you see Joe Burrow make post routes in
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  Speaker 7: the end zone that are back hip, back shoulder that
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  Speaker 7: they catch routinely just because of receiver number one receiver
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  Speaker 7: has body control. Like you didn't see that from him.
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  Speaker 7: What is your analysis of Chris Olave to this point?
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  Speaker 7: Because something just looks a little bit off as routes
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  Speaker 7: aren't clean, they're not they don't look crisp, and it
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  Speaker 7: looks kind of hard to read from a quarterback his
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  Speaker 7: body angles, his body speed like it's like it just
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  Speaker 7: looks like something's a little off.
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  Speaker 4: What do you notice him?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you. I mean he got a hand
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  Speaker 5: on it, like you got to pull it in, but
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  Speaker 5: like at the same time, there was ten yards of space,
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  Speaker 5: like there was a much easier throw to make. So
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, you can knock both guys. I
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  Speaker 5: put a bigger knock on the quarterback for that throw
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  Speaker 5: just me. I mean, I didn't play the position you did.
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  Speaker 7: All I'm saying is like number one receivers in the
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  Speaker 7: NFL make that catch pretty routine routinely. Right, Yes, Mike
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  Speaker 7: Evans is coming down with a catch, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Like Chris comes off and he's got it. Seems
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  Speaker 5: a little frustrated right now to be to be honest,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just reading body language and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 5: like it just seems like maybe maybe you know, maybe
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  Speaker 5: everything isn't all all the way on the same page
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  Speaker 5: it this point right now, you know, I think there's
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  Speaker 5: tab of ways to get him a little bit more
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  Speaker 5: involved and get him into the flow of things, maybe
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  Speaker 5: earlier in the game, like they tried there. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: so that might be a BS comment to make by me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, Like it just it just doesn't seem
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  Speaker 5: to have like fully clicked in the place yet, like
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  Speaker 5: all the way around with all their weapons though, like
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  Speaker 5: it's just been you know, kind of quiet, but it
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  Speaker 5: is an offense that's that's thrown for like two hundred
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  Speaker 5: yards of game right now, and you know, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know how many opportunities they're supposed to be. He had
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  Speaker 5: what five catches this week for fifty four yards or
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  Speaker 5: something like that. I know the alignment was fifty seven
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  Speaker 5: point five and he came in under it, so whatever
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  Speaker 5: his number was. But yeah, I think it's just like
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  Speaker 5: not not quite all the way there yet, and this
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  Speaker 5: is probably supposed to be the year where he explodes.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a it's not a contract year,
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  Speaker 5: but I think it's a value building year for him,
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  Speaker 5: no doubt about it. I mean, like he's trying to
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  Speaker 5: get those numbers back to where they probably should be
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  Speaker 5: and could be.
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  Speaker 4: And I think if.
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  Speaker 5: You're him, just kind of in this offense that's a
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  Speaker 5: little bit limited or whatever right now and probably isn't
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  Speaker 5: going to be the team that's wrong for free endred
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  Speaker 5: yards a week at any point this season. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I bet it's probably it's probably a little bit you know,
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  Speaker 5: frustrating with with what your goals are. But I also
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  Speaker 5: know that, like every time we talk to him, and
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  Speaker 5: this is going on four years now, Like he's just
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  Speaker 5: consistently bringing up like, look, I came from Ohio State,
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  Speaker 5: Like I'm not used to losing. Like I think this
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  Speaker 5: being in a losing culture probably consistently for for all
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  Speaker 5: these years too, is just something that that you know,
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  Speaker 5: I legitimately think that bothers him. And there's some guys
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  Speaker 5: that and look, you guys about like there's some guys
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  Speaker 5: that don't wear the losses the same man as other guys.
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  Speaker 5: I think someone that like legitimately takes losing very very hard,
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  Speaker 5: and I think I'm stice starting to wear on him
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  Speaker 5: a little bit too.
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  Speaker 4: Nick.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of positives I really do think that
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  Speaker 3: that you can take from the last couple of games.
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  Speaker 3: But what is one thing that just for you hasn't
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  Speaker 3: gotten better? You don't see that development, And it's one
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  Speaker 3: of the reasons the Saints are owing.
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  Speaker 5: To interior blocking. Probably it just like McCoy's McCoy's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's just a lot of pressure kind of
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  Speaker 5: coming coming through there right now. See you're hat a
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  Speaker 5: had a tough game.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they they.
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  Speaker 5: Moved both over him. I think five comes in this
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  Speaker 5: game and and got you know, easy wins on those.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that kind of tells you what they're thinking
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  Speaker 5: the opponent when they're doing that. That's that's a that's
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  Speaker 5: a tough look for you. Yeah, I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think that's been been good at all. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how it gets better. I don't know if it changes.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what the fix is. But that's that's
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  Speaker 5: a huge issue. I think that's that's something that's got
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  Speaker 5: to uh one way or another. They got to find
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  Speaker 5: a way to clean it up more. Got asked about
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  Speaker 5: him yesterday and gave him a voter confidence But you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm guessing that's just kind of lip service that that
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  Speaker 5: has to be a concern for your team at this point.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the whole, the whole builds about having a
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  Speaker 5: strong front and letting that be the thing that allows
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  Speaker 5: your quarterbacks to kind of you know, develop and keeps
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  Speaker 5: them out of trouble and allows them to make cleaner decisions.
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  Speaker 5: And if you're giving up interior pressure, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 5: the you know, it's it's in his face immediately, like
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  Speaker 5: that's just not that's my conducer for success in it,
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  Speaker 5: And it's counter to the build and what they want
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  Speaker 5: to do so. Yeah, I mean I would say that
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  Speaker 5: would probably be the top thing. You know. I think
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  Speaker 5: the pass rush result was okay week one. This week
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't. That's a little concerning. I want to see
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  Speaker 5: what Chase Young does when when he gets back. Probably
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  Speaker 5: I would guess this week that was the timeline when
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  Speaker 5: he got hurt. Maybe that fix is a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: but I would say those are the two things, and
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  Speaker 5: I think those are the two things probably coming into
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  Speaker 5: the season. Quarterback was obviously on that list too, but
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  Speaker 5: I think past rush and that that interior protection, we're
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  Speaker 5: probably the two things we talked about most, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 5: every Thursday marketing Cup for six months coming into the season.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're still kind of at the top of
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  Speaker 5: that list from it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Cason is a lot like he graded out in
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  Speaker 7: the thirties week one, but low forties this week, So
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  Speaker 7: it's starting to trim trend enough. I think about like
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  Speaker 7: week week got ten or eleven, it might be high forty,
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  Speaker 7: be a D, might be a D.
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  Speaker 4: You never know, Gay, So let's see positive Nick.
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  Speaker 7: Where So, we knew the the roster issues going in
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  Speaker 7: the season. We knew that this was not going to
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  Speaker 7: be a Super Bowl contending team by any means or
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  Speaker 7: any stretch of the imagination. But two games in, where
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  Speaker 7: are they in comparison to your expectations before the season.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I think they're a little ahead. I mean, I
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  Speaker 5: can't remember the Sea really look really looking for break spots,
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  Speaker 5: looking for things that you know you can hang your
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  Speaker 5: hat on, the look toward future building and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I think the quarterback play has done better than I
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  Speaker 5: expected it was going to be, at least immediately out
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  Speaker 5: of the gate. Now I think the factor of fiction
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  Speaker 5: on that is going to come into play over the
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  Speaker 5: next two weeks. The Sea battle defense is is is.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they got some players. I think there's some
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  Speaker 5: vulnerabilities overall in their in their defense, but I think
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  Speaker 5: the holes better than the some of the parts. And
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  Speaker 5: the way that the Stacey's I think is going to
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  Speaker 5: make things pos of. We'll see how he reads the field.
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  Speaker 5: Jolly and Love is kind of like Kyle Hamilton Junior.
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  Speaker 5: Can move all over the field, do a lot of
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  Speaker 5: different things. Kobe Bryant our other state, the former corner
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  Speaker 5: moved back there very rangy player. They rotate those guys
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  Speaker 5: a lot and really muddy up the pictures, so we'll
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  Speaker 5: kind of see how they read the defense, and that
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  Speaker 5: could be a game where they get behind early and
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  Speaker 5: you got to see the quarterback throws way back. If
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't happen this week, definitely will next week against Buffalo.
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  Speaker 5: So I think as that simple size gets larger, we'll
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  Speaker 5: start to get a better feel for it. But like
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  Speaker 5: I'm encouraged by by what we're seeing. And and again
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  Speaker 5: like I don't know what this means, and I'm by
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  Speaker 5: no means is it? Is it good enough? You don't
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  Speaker 5: want to exist in this range? But I think, like
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  Speaker 5: if you were to rank all the quarterbacks in the
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  Speaker 5: NFL right now, like Rattler's probably like twenty fifth or
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  Speaker 5: something like that, Like he's not in the bottom. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Like I don't even know what the number is, but
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  Speaker 5: it's it's encouraging to some degree.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 7: I think I think QBR he was ranked seventeen or
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  Speaker 7: eighteen right now. And then we talked about like if
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  Speaker 7: they Jwan Johnson comes down with that touchdown, like if
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  Speaker 7: if you know, I can't even know whatever, but like
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  Speaker 7: if they complete the past, a love can lease draw on.
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  Speaker 7: We're talking like top ten QBR right, I mean on
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  Speaker 7: the edge. Yeah, now no, oh in times, So it
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  Speaker 7: doesn't like that's the staff that matters.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that would have won last week probably if
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  Speaker 5: he gets that touchdown to a love early on and the.
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  Speaker 7: Man, they might have won.
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  Speaker 5: They might have went for two and one and they
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  Speaker 5: would have a chance, like yeah, if both those passes
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  Speaker 5: get caught, like they're like Mike Greenberg and then were
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  Speaker 5: probably leads to get up with with Rattler like the
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  Speaker 5: guy like you know, yeah, So I mean like that
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  Speaker 5: that's incredibly encouraging. You know, I think it's so wrong,
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  Speaker 5: Like I just I just feel like they're building something.
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  Speaker 5: I think the coaching staff is still obviously growing and
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  Speaker 5: learning and getting better. And I don't think that's unique
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  Speaker 5: to him, like Ben Johnson's getting roasted for decisions inot Like,
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  Speaker 5: I think you just got to go through the stuff
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  Speaker 5: and learn and grow. And I think where the Saints
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  Speaker 5: are at right now, it's tolerable. Like if it's if
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  Speaker 5: it's a growing year for the roster and a growing
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  Speaker 5: year for the coach, like I'm fine with that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: Like the results aren't where they need to be. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think a lot of stuff is good enough, but like,
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  Speaker 5: and I hate to put it like this because it's
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  Speaker 5: like so soft and like so anticipation trophy is but like,
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  Speaker 5: I just think this year is about progress and I
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  Speaker 5: feel like we're seeing it right now. But those those
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  Speaker 5: feelings did come crashing down in two weeks, and if
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  Speaker 5: they get smoked the next two weeks, like it'll be
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  Speaker 5: interesting to see if the you know, if they still
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  Speaker 5: have the same ball population and you know, the same
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  Speaker 5: effort everywhere, Like that's going to get tested a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: But I think right now, two weeks in, it feels
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  Speaker 5: like it's on track.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you just about the the the operation
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  Speaker 3: of everything from Kellimore first time head coach, because like
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't look like there's a lot of panic on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline. Look, there's some situations and we could talk
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  Speaker 3: about some clock management stuff and in week number one,
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  Speaker 3: but just with the new coaching staff with new pieces
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  Speaker 3: and a first time head coach, Like, how has that
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  Speaker 3: been from maybe your viewpoint, Nick? And also like when
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  Speaker 3: you talk to other people around the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's spotty. And one of the
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  Speaker 5: things I heard from someone when they first hired him,
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  Speaker 5: someone was another team that that interviewed more. I got
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  Speaker 5: a text and I was like, hey, look, this guy's
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  Speaker 5: like really smart, but I think it's going to take
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  Speaker 5: him a while to figure out how to be a
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  Speaker 5: head coach, Like he's gonna have to grow into that.
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  Speaker 5: And then after week one, same guy text me, he's like,
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  Speaker 5: remember I told you, and it's like, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 5: there's some of the stuff that that I think is
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  Speaker 5: going to come into play, Like I thought. I thought
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  Speaker 5: week one, you know, the pre Scotch stuff was was
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  Speaker 5: was awful. I think that was kind of a result
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  Speaker 5: of how they can't went like I think we talked
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  Speaker 5: a few times about how, you know, hey, it's a
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  Speaker 5: little weird shorter days like that are doing a lot
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  Speaker 5: of a lot of stuff other than just like straight
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  Speaker 5: up team every day, and it's different than anything you know,
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  Speaker 5: I had ever seen. And then they go into week
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  Speaker 5: one and they have these penalties. But I think, you know,
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  Speaker 5: last week the number gets cut in half and the
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  Speaker 5: prestaff stuff was gone, Like that's a that's the stuff
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  Speaker 5: in the right direction. And if he's gonna make mistakes
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  Speaker 5: and he can correct them in a week, I'm okay
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  Speaker 5: seeing mistakes right now. Like if we're seeing mistakes and
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  Speaker 5: Thanksgiving and some of the same stuff, I'll be I'll
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  Speaker 5: be way more concerned. I thought it was a little
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  Speaker 5: weird this week and it might have just done a
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  Speaker 5: defense thing. You know that the field was slippery, The
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  Speaker 5: players were talking about it being slippery. You saw people
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  Speaker 5: slipping on the field, and like we asked them about
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  Speaker 5: it yesterday and it's like, hey, like what was your
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  Speaker 5: involvement in that? And he's like, oh, they meant some,
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  Speaker 5: but I didn't really worry about it. And like I
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  Speaker 5: feel like those little details are things that he's gonna
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  Speaker 5: have to learn to Hey, everything does matter, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's just weird in my position, like hearing that
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  Speaker 5: when for fifteen years, like we all became masters on
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  Speaker 5: grass pipes than Cleveland and what you do, because like
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  Speaker 5: it was those are the details that Sean Payton was into,
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  Speaker 5: like to an exhaustive degree, and it's just like wow,
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  Speaker 5: like this is like like it's totally different, and I
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  Speaker 5: think differents okay, But like I think some of that,
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  Speaker 5: you know that there's a middle ground that you that
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  Speaker 5: you gotta see and I think he's I think he's
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  Speaker 5: figuring stuff out I think it's going in the right direction.
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  Speaker 5: I think that you see, he's obviously like smart.
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  Speaker 4: The way you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's a really good play caller, really good
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  Speaker 5: designer of offense. I think that's a parent It's just
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  Speaker 5: it's just, you know, some of the head coaching stuff
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  Speaker 5: I think still has to to come all the way together.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, a guy that's thirty six year olds
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  Speaker 5: first time and you know in the role, I think
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  Speaker 5: you're gonna see it. Also, I think we got the
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  Speaker 5: answer to h the clock management thing, yeah, that we're
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  Speaker 5: talking about. Yeah, so they were in a situation where
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  Speaker 5: where they were considering calling the time out and Phil Galliano,
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  Speaker 5: the special teams coach, came over and they were they
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  Speaker 5: were discussing it, and then the time I got called
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  Speaker 5: previously Darren Rizzy handled kind of some of that game
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  Speaker 5: management aspect. So I think I think that's the answer.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna seek confirmation on Wednesday, but I will have
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: a firm answer for you next week. But I think
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: I think that's it.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: I was wondering if you were able to ask the
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: question because we were talking about it after are we
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: interviewed you last week, Like if you get a good
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: question from Kellen Moore, like I would say.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: We like as like we all get it.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: We all get that one, right, Well, that's all we
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: That one goes on the tally board for everyone.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: So I held up. I held out like I game
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: planned it, and I held off because it was like
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: he was getting fried for for the thing. And it's
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: like it's like I don't want to keep this going
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: on on Wednesday, and he's just gonna be like you know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: so I was waiting for the smoke to clear a
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: little bit and like kind of going there like where
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: it's not because it's not an aggressive question like we've
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: we've criticized you for it, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: gonna wait so like we get a real answer and
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: not like uh are you bringing this up again?
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: So like I just.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Want the information. I don't I'm not trying to make
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: an accusation.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: I got to read the room smart. That's right, Oh man,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: there is.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I got Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football always good
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: enough to join us here on Tuesday mornings. Nick, We
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: appreciate the time as always, sir, and we'll catch up
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: again next week. Guess uh, it's impossible to answer. I
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: was gonna ask him, if you're the Saints and you
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: had a top five pick right now, which position do
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: you go with? But that's kind of impossible, knowing who
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: is available in the draft, and you know injuries and
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: certain contract situations and all of that.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: That's a fun hypothetical.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: But my whole point in thinking about that question was
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I would not select or take a
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: quarterback right now.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Neither. I wouldn't. I wouldn't either.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I think there's other things that can help you win
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: And you don't three young quarterbacks. No, you don't know
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: if they were.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Three they sign. That's so true, Like you do not
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: need another quarterback? Or go look see where you can
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: find one, Like go get Jamis back?
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, why not?
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: You'll get a number one receiver, please, ja get go
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: get a number one dog a receiver. Because this isn't
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: for me. It's not like I'm gonna hate on Krystal Lovey.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: I think Chris Alive is a really good football player.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: I think Kris is gonna play a long time in
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the NFL. Do I think there's more in there? Absolutely?
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: But and this isn't LSU bias. It's not, I promise you.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: But when I turn on the TV or when the
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: TV's on the studio and they continue on the loop
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: showing Jamar Chase and Elik Neighbor like catches, like Elik
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Neighbors is going out there and it's like it's him
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: or nobody when.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: The balls in the air like same thing.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Like with Jamar Chase like he is, it's almost like
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: somebody told him he can't catch and every single time
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: he wants to prove I can catch it no matter
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: where it's at. And I'm gonna be uber aggressive finding
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: a way to come down with the football. I don't
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: care if you know a DB's hand is on my
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: face and I'm not gonna sit there and get a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: up and you know, do the whole you know, where's
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the flag.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just gonna go catch the ball. Yep.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna worry about anything else.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Chris A Lobby doesn't have that right this second. Not no.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: And so that's what that's what I think you're talking about.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Is that too, If my quarterback gives me a chance,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a chance for me is ninety six percent me coming
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: down with the football.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: What Nick said about it the potential of the psychology
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: behind maybe his thought pros. It kind of resonated with
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: me about how he is come like he takes losing
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: a lot harder than he's coming from Ohio State, like
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: with it. When I went to Green Bay, we were
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: six and ten, yeah, and we lost like the first
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: game of the season. I go in the locker room,
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: I'm pissed. I didn't play like I'm pissed. I'm like, well,
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: this is gonna be terrible. Everybody's like laughing in.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: The locker room. I'm like, what do y'all What are
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: y'all doing? We just lost?
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: Nobody talks, Everyone be everyone be pissed. It's just different.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: But some people I can see how being in a
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: loser culture right out of coming up from Ohio State
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: for multiple years, like how that can mentally if you
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: don't like overcome it. And then if that's mentally it's
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: like psychology is not there, how your performance can start
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: to go day yeah, let's go. I could see that
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: being an issue. But he's got it. He who cares like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: you got to get you got to get over that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: You're pro you're supposed to be at number one. You
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: have to be better. Yeah, Spencer's got to make that
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: throw better, got to Yeah, but he's a young quarterback, Like,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: you got to make the play again.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: My league neighbors is making that catch, Jamar Chase is
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: making that catch. Ceedee Lamb probably is making that catch.
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's number one. Brandon Cooks is making
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: that catch in that game. Yeah, I've seen it. I've
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: seen it. I've seen him make that catch fifty times.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Nick just didn't want to.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: But Nick is right. Nick is right, Spencer, like that
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: is you get a negative grade?
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Spencer?
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Nick one hundred percent right. But I'm just saying,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: and that's just one example. That's one example. But the
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: way he was running his routes, it's just that doesn't
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: seem mentally or spiritually, whatever you want to say it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: It just it just hadn't come together for him. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: what Nick said kind of resonated with me, Like if
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: he is so mentally beat down from being part of
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: a losing franchise, yeah, that can And if you don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: take losing well right, if you're not used to it
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: and you're not handling it the right way. From a
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: psyche standpoint, I can see how that could translate into
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: how he's playing.
• 20:32
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  Speaker 3: Hashtag go to be mail bag? Do you all think
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Nuss should rest this weekend to get better for the Gauntlet?
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: I'm actually gonna say no. I don't think your offense
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: is good enough. I think you gotta find some sort
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: of rhythm. How about you get into a rhythm. Score
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: thirty five in the first half, then sit him the
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: rest of the game.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Pretty nice, all right, Matthew.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: If he is if his injury I'm gonna say injury lightly.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: If his ailment, whatever's hurting him. If it is affecting
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: the game plan, then, yes, sit him a lot, which
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: we laid that a little bit earlier.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: It might be maybe feels like a hot take, but
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: I think sit him. I mean, you got Old Miss
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: the next weekend, so at Old Miss. And again we
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: go back to this quite a bit, but like, is
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: he injured or is he hurt?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: You know? And if he's if he's injured, you injured,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you hurt?
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: Let him rest up against Southeastern, you know, and then
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: to go face go face Old Miss in Oxford the
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: next weekend, Like you gotta fully rest enough. So I mean,
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: I don't I I would.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Like to sit him.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's got an injury that time, can heal?
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Rest? Can heal?
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Like I'm a meat head, Let me go out there
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: and play.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: But we need you.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And you do have a quarterback a backup situation with
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: someone who has eight sec starts and played pretty well
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: last year, so you're not putting your team in a deficiency.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And it does seem like, based on us like
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: charting the passes earlier in the show, that it could
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: be affecting the game plan. But it also gives a
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: little credence to the message that Brian Kelly's been preaching
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: about the Florida game. We played the game to win.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: It looked differently, Yeah, and that's how we Like When
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: he first said it, I was like, yeah, I don't know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: that's probably just coach speak for like we didn't play
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: good on offense. But like, if the game plan is
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: set up to where it's dink and dunk, let's control
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: to try to control the clock, let's do like, let's
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: game plan differently because we have a good defense.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like you got to read the tea leaves.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: Your defense is going to keep you in every single game.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: And if Michael van Buren can't go out there and
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: put points up against Southeastern, yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you should, like you should absolutely be
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: able to go out there with him and throttle.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's not my concern. That's not why I said, Yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I just I know.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: You're saying but legitimately, but to match point, I think
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: you said this earlier. That still puts him going through
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: a full week of practice, that still puts him going
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: through pre game, that still puts him going through game situations,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: and so like at that point, he's played thirty five nothing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: He still played so if he's really got an ailment
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: again that rest can help with not if it can't, right,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't there.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: I don't know enough about the injury to know if
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: like just sitting right, But like I don't know if
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: sitting him for a week is going to do anything
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: for him. But I mean, but you from the information
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: that I have, I think, yeah, in my opinion, suit
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: him this weekend.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: And well, I mean almost half your throws are we
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: know science here, yeah, we do. Or half your throws
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: this season have been less than five yards down.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: The field of air air travel. Yep, you're talking thirty
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: four yards.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: It's basically your longest attempt, right, And their explanations, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: don't remember the other one, And so I'm thinking that's false.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: For the for the Flory game, we thought his lip
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: service saying that like we played the game to win.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: We just we knew he had a good defense. We
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: just wanted to control the clock, not turn it over
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: make a big mistake. That's coach speak for saying like,
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: I don't have a good offense. But that is not
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: the case, because we've seen these people play really good offense.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: So I mean, you got Aaron Anderson's davy On Thomas
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: out there. And you're right, Barry and Brown is fast
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: fast yeah, yeah, like and and.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: We're throw the ball time right And I know, I
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: know Chris Hill's mad about his targets right now, but
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: like what's his right is that? Like, what's the thing
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: that he does?
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Go?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Oh right now?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: If you can't go right, like if you're limited, isn't there?
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: So I think we just we charted I think only
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: three passes. It's very few passes a handful that have
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: gone over thirty yards and even fewer over thirty five.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: The average go ball, which is just a wide receiver
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: near the sideline is outside see were running a go route.
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: The average pass completed passes between thirty eight and forty
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: two yards down the field on a go route. That's
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: a five step drop timing one hitch, let it rip.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: We always charted it. Your completions on a go route
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: thirty eight to forty two yards down the field. There's
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: less than a handful of balls that have even traveled
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: even close to that bar.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: This long longest completion through the air this year, not
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: catching run, but through the air. Yeah, twenty four yards.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Well, if you want to mention the.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's from somebody that can make every throat right.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you said there were three to win over thirty yards. Yeah,
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: you go back and look at the charts. Two incompletions
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: and an interception.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Yep, those are and the one that went over thirty
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: five yards I believe air was, like I said, five
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: to ten yards behind the receiver and that was the
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: pick right, and just a standard fast I drop it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: A hitch.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: A go route is completed between thirty eight and forty
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: two yards if it's executed.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Properly, and you know whatever. I think you've thrown those before.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Laser rocket arm.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Hell, I think you've thrown me a pass longer than
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: thirty four yards.
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: They were like, oh, well, I don't know about Quinn's
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: drafts status. He can't throw at seventy five yards? I
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: think seventy. But I don't need to.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I realized in that real listen, all right, hashtag go
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: t B mail bag. Is there anything you want to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: see from the offense this weekend?
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Game points?
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Got points?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I want to see three things. Three things in the
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: running game. I want to see running backs be decisive
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: in their cuts, make a decision, and go. I want
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to see linemen not try to be perfect and climb
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: up to the second level and with bad intentions, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: by god, I want to see a full back again.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Those three things, I don't know what I want to see.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I go a little easier than that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: I want to see somebody other than Caden Durham get
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: like a decent work.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Like I understand you.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: You've worked Harlan Berry into a little bit. We still
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: haven't seen Caleb Jackson at all, and there's probably reasons
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: behind that.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen Juwan a.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Little bit, but like it's kind of been Cayden Durham
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: and then Tavi.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I'm Thomas a lot for it too.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: You got to earn carries.
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: You do, but it gets southeastern like if you want
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: to see what you got that's and Juwan was doing
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: that and they fumbled. You want to get you want
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: to get next to Frank Wilson, real quick fumble carry
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: that was great. Yeah, I mean he put his foot
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: in the ground a couple of times the other night,
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: but he fumbled, so we all know how that goes.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I'd love to see, Yeah, Harlan Berry in this game,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: absolutely for sure. But again, Carrie's are earned and when
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: people are like, well, was this guy and not get
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: in the ball, look at the stats and kind of
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: look at the production or the lack up production. They
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: certainly need somebody to step up outside of Caden Durham.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: How I said, I go to the mail bag. Is
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: the Pontoon Parlay going to get back on track this week?
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Or was it a one and done for maximum efforts
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: sort of thing? Whoa Ricky.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Might have you hit a Parlay?
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Rick?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Bud, I think technically we're fifty percent. We're six
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: and six. We have a lot of real good tries
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: out there, a lot of good tries, a lot of
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: good tries.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: This week we're hitting there for.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Uh from the l s U Monster here. What if
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, justin, Jefferson, Tyron, Matthew, Patrick, Peterson, OBJ and
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Devin White gut into a fist fight, who would come
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: out on top? I'm going, honey Badger, any fight situation, honey.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin White would be tough to be too. Time.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Is this street fight?
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, with like street rules or in a ring? Yeah,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: street fight, street fight honey badger? Yeah, alright, I get it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: Like if we're in a ring, size matters, Devin white
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: coming out on top like Jim Bill Fisher used to
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: say it, like big guy's always gonna win.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: If you're little, you better be special like Joe Burrow.
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: You can have all the toughness in the world, but
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: at some point, yeah, some point, size and just strength matters.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Hashuld I go to be mail bag? Would any of
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: the OTB crew agree to tandem parachute into Tiger Stadium
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: before kickoff to deliver the game?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: But yeah, do I have to?
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: Like, do I have to do anything other than being
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: strapped of somebody else that knows what they're doing?
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: No? Yeah, close my eyes, wake me up when we
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  Speaker 4: hit the groom.
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  Speaker 7: It's one of those things that I that's not on
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  Speaker 7: my bucket list at all, Like why, Nope, no, no need.
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  Speaker 7: God made conversation. Yeah, God made this beautiful earth. I'm
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  Speaker 7: gonna keep my feet on it.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even like getting on planes.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like getting all lines.
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  Speaker 7: I definitely don't want to voluntarily get off a plane.
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  Speaker 3: Let me jump out of this plane.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's just I'm sure it's a great.
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  Speaker 6: Thrill, and I'm sure I would pass away mid air,
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  Speaker 6: like just how.
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  Speaker 4: You pass out?
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: His passing away I would pass away mid air.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that guy that's in charge of your life,
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  Speaker 7: that pulls it, you don't know what he's going through.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: You don't know, you don't know his trial.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Stepping out on him. Now he decides he's not pulling
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the cord exactly exactly.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: Y'all seen, y'all seen breaking bad when that air traffic
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: controller he's having this like bad situation at home, bad
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  Speaker 7: stuff happening, and.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: He just boomed two planes. You're right, I'm not doing
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: it anymore. Yeah, you don't know. I'm out. Could be
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: a crack yad.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: My dad used always say, why jump out of a
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: perfectly good airport?
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Exactly?
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break more O t B
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  Speaker 3: when we come back here on one four five ESPN
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: off the bench. Go for those today, tomorrow, Saturday, any day. Really,
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  Speaker 3: it's a great time now Saturday tail getting situations like
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  Speaker 3: the peak time. And I was walking around campus. I
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  Speaker 3: told you all this yesterday, walking around walking around pastailgates
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  Speaker 3: and got called hey, hey, say say well do sekis?
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  Speaker 3: And I was proud that they stopped me and showed
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  Speaker 3: me the dose secis. Now this patron only had one,
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  Speaker 3: not two personal choice, I guess, but you can always
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  Speaker 3: go for dose.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, to each their own, to each their own.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: But I am proud that he stopped me and let
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  Speaker 3: me know that he was enjoying that ice cold do
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  Speaker 3: sekies you should as well. It is a part of
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  Speaker 3: game day. Get your tent, get your TV, get your generator,
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  Speaker 7: Secis It's right, stay thirsty, my friends, go for dose.
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  Speaker 7: Get that delicious ice cold Mexicano long with either the
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  Speaker 7: glass bottle that's my favorite. Whatever it is, cut you
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  Speaker 7: lime and then enjoy.
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  Speaker 4: Go for dose. Drink responsible.
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  Speaker 2: If you need a friend. Soluto is strange, you know.
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  Speaker 6: In the end, I.
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  Speaker 1: Dus from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
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  Speaker 1: the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 4: Don't be.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I did not come in today expecting, you know, an
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: eighties vibe. But it's made this Tuesday bearable and Tuesdays
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  Speaker 3: are typically unbearable.
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  Speaker 4: Has been a nice little Tuesday, been a nice little tude.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a good energy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I hadn't been sleepy at all.
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  Speaker 4: I dj alundra over there. Yeah, shout out dejails.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I need like an air horn, some of the ass.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: And the fog machine.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: We had a fog machine in here, that'd be badass
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: great every intro. I would just yeah, wait, somebody asked
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: you what?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Somebody asked if we should do eighties Tuesdays going on?
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  Speaker 3: Should we?
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  Speaker 4: I mean? I actually then we have themes?
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: Should we do them for every day?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: But we also reserve the right to change just on
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: a whim.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have, like I guess Thursday, since now R
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  Speaker 3: and B's are on Wednesday, Like Thursday can be a
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: wild and out like whatever. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, Tuesday,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Eighties Wednesday, R and B.
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  Speaker 4: We can we can ditch funky Friday.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: I think I'm going to make the executive decision.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe just one an hour.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I think the closer song is good.
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  Speaker 4: It's not the music. Well yeah, it's well.
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  Speaker 8: We're playing it those of you Friday, Me and A Launder.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: Notice you never have your head set on, so I
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: know I hear some of it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I definitely hear.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: I told you that I went down a rabbit hole
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: was it last Friday? Because I was running out of
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: funk songs and I'm not.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I obviously know they're not that funky.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: I know the hits.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not that funky though. So I went on down
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: a rabbit hole, started with James Brown the King, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: I've got some but I think I think it's something.
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  Speaker 3: We gotta just written.
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  Speaker 4: Hire.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm with you, all right.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: We got some more film to watch, we do.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, So this is a great job by Matt pulling
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: up this play. I come back in. We were talking
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: about it, and it shows you. I don't want to
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: say how perfect you have to be, but kind of
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: you do. It's a perfect example. Like all eleven guys
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: working in Unison, I don't think there's any more part
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: of football that that plays than the run game and
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: how close you can be, how close you can be.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: So we are in eleven personnel here. So what they're
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: trying to do. They line up with a bower out
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: wide and it's really yet line of tight end out
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: wide or running back to see if you can get
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: a man's zone read early. So look, check it out.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: We line him up outside. We got a linebacker outside. Okay,
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: what do you know? What do you think that is?
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I almost say that's main cover.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: That's gonna be a man covers. You got a linebacker
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: on a tight end, he's motioning in with it. So
• 39:25
  Speaker 7: we all know it's man to man at this point, right,
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: Even the receivers should notes man a man.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Everybody should be queued in on their pre snap keys.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Okay, so what we're doing here, Jake and out, we're
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: just trying to decipher what this play with.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: This is a stretch to the right.
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: A stretch means there's an inside zone, there's an outside zone,
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: and then there's a stretch play, which is like way
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: outside zone. Your stretching the defense trying to get outside.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: And it's a it's still like a zone concept because
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: you can hit it in multiple different places. It's not
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: like a gap scheme where it's a gap or B gap.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: But this is a look.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with the footwork that I see from Kitten Durham
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: and the blocking and kind of the footsteps that they're taking,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: this is a stretch and.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: The stretch play.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: You can see the right tackle and the tight end
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: they're stretching out to that guy. They're gonna try to
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: hook him. Right Tackle's never gonna look a tackle is
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: never gonna look great and powerful on a stretch. But
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: you're just your job to hook him, and he got
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: a hooked right there the tight end. Make sure he
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: pushes him down in there so he can't hook him
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: gets to the second level. It's a great job abou
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: the center. I was I was critical to the center
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: when I first saw this because I thought it was
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: outside zone and which if it was just a regular
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: zone play, you would see the center work straight up
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: to twenty nine, fifty nine, fifty six doing a good job,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: seventy five does a good job.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Ten does a good job.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Everything is good for an outside stretch to bounce outside,
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: except for one critical mistake that the offense did.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: It's mandaman. You have a receiver.
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: In what is called a nasty split, which is a tight,
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: tightened down split from an outside receiver.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It's in man demand. In a Manda man rule, run
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: your guy off. He's not. He's not worried about that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: He's not worried about the run. His eyes on you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: So watch what happens.
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: We decide to go take the safety and we leave
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: our guy, and it flashes color for Kaden Durham. You
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: can see Cayden is running to the outside and does
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: not stop until that corner down here, you point at
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: it right here.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: It flashes blue.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and as soon as he sees free blue because
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: he decides to go to safety. Now, I still, honestly
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: i'd like to see Kayden Durham go shuttle of one
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: with a corner. I still like Kayden Durham in that matchup.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: But for him, he sees what now is an unblocked guy.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Where if the receiver just right now, just outside release
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: and just goes down the field, that just takes is
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: in his hip and he's following him the entire way,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: and you have that corner, you're on the twenty yard line,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: you're at the numbers, and it is you one on
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: one with a safety.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: And I like Kayden Durham in that matchup because there's
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of space just simply by a receiver taking
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: an outside release and running him off in man cover.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: And watch the stripe of his helmet. You can always
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: tell what they're looking by the stripe on a helmet.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: And we always look at quarterbacks. Where are you looking
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: with the box? I can see your stripe. Watch Kaden
• 42:08
  Speaker 7: Durham's stripe. He's looking outside of bower sharp over here.
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: My slow motion for you wants looking at it, looking
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: at where he wants hit it outside, outside, and then
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: he turns boom ah, and.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't see that color flash man, he is
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: hitting the sideline and look, he is one move away
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: from making the safety miss and hitting his head up
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: on the goalpost on the other side in the south endzon.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: For a stretch play. There is no other reason in
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: the world to line your tight end out to get
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: a man's zone read then to tell that receiver his responsibility.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: You either run your guy off in man or if
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: it's zone, come off and block him. You get the
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: most threatening guy the corner of the safety. Who's the
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: biggest threat.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that safety's playing so far back. That's me.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: That's my guy. I'm the running back. You can't block everybody, right,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: they got one more than you because of you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: the quarterback. Okay, so I've got to make him miss.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: That's on me, like certainly when he's coming from death
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: right there. So leave that guy for me. So I
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: guess if I can't make you miss, don't get somebody
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: else in there of the can Week three.
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: Those are the little things that you watch on film
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: and you clean up. Those are the things that you
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: do clean up walk throughs afterwards to clean that stuff up.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: That's why teams get better, because the little things get
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: a little bit better every single week.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I know, we got take a break easy. I'm not
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: saying it's a bad read from Kayden. Actually, like kind
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: of like the color flashing right now, that's what it
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: kind of tells you to do is try to go
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: find something back inside because again, on the stretch you
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: can hit it on multiple places. I'm just saying like
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: he could have tried to press it and maybe make
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: that guy miss. Now, he also could have got tackled
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: for no gain right there on the line of scrimmage.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: But if the receiver just runs that guy off, yep.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: But that's what we're talking about, Like you want to engage,
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: you want to clip the little things because of running
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: back things are happening that it's like a fractions of
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: a split second, right, So when you see color flash,
• 43:54
  Speaker 7: that's what makes you go, yep.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: All right, we got to break. We'll do it now
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• 46:39
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• 46:41
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• 46:42
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