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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's welcome everybody.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Welcome to this week's edition is Still Real Does Show
- 0:21Speaker 2: Episode number seven and sixty nine for November.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Seventh, two thousand thirty four. Welcome to your we Crown
- 0:27Speaker 3: Jewels Greecap n Review Edition. Huff ash R Team the Year.
- 0:32Speaker 3: I am one half the show. I Am under the
- 0:34Speaker 3: Weather of Jackie Beckett. Joined every single week when I, oh,
- 0:38Speaker 3: it's the early Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey, my voice
- 0:41Speaker 3: is pushing through my friend.
- 0:43Speaker 4: Yeah, I knows that. On the intro there, like it
- 0:46Speaker 4: kind of sounded like your voice cracked, like you're hitting puberty.
- 0:49Speaker 4: But at least I knew what was going on because
- 0:52Speaker 4: I was, you know, for an untrained listener. They're like, wait,
- 0:54Speaker 4: I thought he had a kid. How was he hitting puberty? Now?
- 0:57Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it happened, folks did. Sometimes it takes a
- 1:00Speaker 3: long time, but here we are. Yeah, I'm I'm battling
- 1:03Speaker 3: allergy season, my friend, Yeah.
- 1:06Speaker 4: I so this is I usually get sick twice a year.
- 1:10Speaker 4: I usually get sick basically when winter turns the spring
- 1:14Speaker 4: and when summer turns the fall. But I didn't get
- 1:18Speaker 4: it in September this year, Like I know, ma it
- 1:20Speaker 4: I got it yesterday, so I was fever of one
- 1:23Speaker 4: hundred and one point four in the bathroom the entire day.
- 1:28Speaker 4: But today I feel fine. I feel refreshed. Maybe it's
- 1:32Speaker 4: because I actually slept, but I know you, every time
- 1:36Speaker 4: the season has changed, you have your allergy battles. So
- 1:40Speaker 4: when I heard you call me this morning, I was like, Oh, yeah,
- 1:42Speaker 4: that's that's that time of year for Jeff.
- 1:44Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been a wild run.
- 1:46Speaker 2: There may be times where I have to like step
- 1:48Speaker 2: off here, I have a drink of water, but it
- 1:52Speaker 2: it's it's been like last week, it was in the
- 1:55Speaker 2: forties and fifties. The last couple of days, I feel
- 1:57Speaker 2: like I'm in Alabama, doctor try it's been in the seventies.
- 2:01Speaker 2: So it's doing an absolute number on me. The leaves
- 2:05Speaker 2: are being blown around, so there's mold and pollen and
- 2:08Speaker 2: all that other crap all over the place. I literally
- 2:11Speaker 2: did not have a voice two days, the last two days.
- 2:15Speaker 2: So the fact that I'm even at this point is
- 2:18Speaker 2: pretty phenomenal. And if we were still in regular radio,
- 2:22Speaker 2: the program directors would tell us to like go home,
- 2:24Speaker 2: or at least tell me to go home and just
- 2:26Speaker 2: call it a show. Because it's like very annoying to
- 2:29Speaker 2: listen to. I'm hopeful that this is a little bit
- 2:32Speaker 2: more like ASMR for some people.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Well, still, I think you sound better than most of
- 2:38Speaker 4: the radio guys I listened to, even when you're sick,
- 2:41Speaker 4: as I've told you, for damn, you're fifteen years that
- 2:46Speaker 4: when people that, like when friends of mine and family
- 2:49Speaker 4: of mine have listened to the show, they always go, well, Trey,
- 2:53Speaker 4: you sound great, but that other guy, he sounds like
- 2:55Speaker 4: a professional radio guy. So I always say, like Jeff,
- 3:00Speaker 4: even at fifty percent, still sounds better than half the
- 3:03Speaker 4: people you hear on the radio.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Anyway, I appreciate that at one time I was, I
- 3:08Speaker 2: am no more. Now it's just simply a podcaster, which is.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Basically taken over radio nowadays. So that's pretty cool to see.
- 3:14Speaker 3: But nonetheless, let's get into it.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Thank you everybody for downloading, Thank you for joining us
- 3:18Speaker 2: on this week's tition of SR T You We are
- 3:19Speaker 2: gutting it through here for all of you. Let's recap
- 3:24Speaker 2: and review w WE Crown Jewel Doctor Trey took place
- 3:26Speaker 2: this past Saturday for the Muhammad Aba Arena and Riod
- 3:29Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia.
- 3:30Speaker 3: The first match on the card here was.
- 3:32Speaker 2: The Bloodline defeating Roman Rains, Jimmy Uso and jay Uso
- 3:35Speaker 2: in a six man tag team match that is very
- 3:37Speaker 2: weird to say out loud, like, the Bloodline defeats Roman Rains,
- 3:40Speaker 2: Jimmy Uso and jay Uso. I had the Bloodline, Doctor
- 3:43Speaker 2: Trey at Rains us and the Usos. Rain's taking the
- 3:47Speaker 2: clean pin is a pretty big deal as it appears
- 3:49Speaker 2: they are humbling Roman and storyline.
- 3:51Speaker 3: The album changes.
- 3:51Speaker 2: Ways and it's correlating well in the early going. This
- 3:55Speaker 2: was a well booked match that made a lot of
- 3:57Speaker 2: sense for the story moving forward. Sammy's ain't coming out
- 3:59Speaker 2: to make the same get involved and inadvertently take out
- 4:02Speaker 2: Roman Reigns when they were going for Solo was a
- 4:04Speaker 2: really nice touch to get that storyline going into War Games.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Awesome work all around, Doctor Trey. I really enjoyed this one.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Your thoughts as Solo's Bloodline defeated Roman Reigns his blood Line, Yeah.
- 4:15Speaker 4: I thought it was a really well done six man
- 4:17Speaker 4: tag because you know, you and I have talked about
- 4:19Speaker 4: for years, sometimes once you get six men in up
- 4:22Speaker 4: in a match, or women for that matter, things can
- 4:26Speaker 4: get a little out of swords, a little chaotic, one
- 4:28Speaker 4: person forgets what they're doing, and the whole match is
- 4:30Speaker 4: blown up. This was really well done, really well put
- 4:32Speaker 4: together storyline wise, made sense. So a really solid match
- 4:37Speaker 4: for a Crown jewel.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's really cool about this is that we've
- 4:41Speaker 2: put this storyline during the microscope the last several weeks
- 4:44Speaker 2: on the podcast. To me, doctor Trey and this will
- 4:47Speaker 2: be interested in your thoughts. I think it's starting to
- 4:50Speaker 2: make sense right now. I like where it's going. It's
- 4:52Speaker 2: making sense by humbling Roman a little bit.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Yeah. I until this match, I hadn't really thought about
- 4:59Speaker 4: that angle. But it's one thing that we've talked on
- 5:01Speaker 4: the show that if you're gonna be a babyface, you
- 5:03Speaker 4: got to have obstacles and things you have to overcome
- 5:06Speaker 4: for the fans to get you sympathy. Having Roman take
- 5:09Speaker 4: the pin is humbling. Now, it's another obstacle for to overcome.
- 5:14Speaker 4: At one point, we felt like they were kind of
- 5:15Speaker 4: shotgunning the storyline a little bit because you're getting Jay
- 5:19Speaker 4: to come back in and he's just like, you know,
- 5:22Speaker 4: at first, it seemed like he was just, you know,
- 5:24Speaker 4: everything was all well and taken care of and then
- 5:26Speaker 4: now you see why he's doing it. This stuff with Sammy,
- 5:30Speaker 4: it makes sense that they're they're starting the angle, and
- 5:33Speaker 4: instead of just not explaining why these guys are doing
- 5:36Speaker 4: what they're doing, you're actually having some layers of depth
- 5:40Speaker 4: in the storytelling as to, yeah, I'm helping you, but look,
- 5:44Speaker 4: I don't trust you, I don't buy into you. You
- 5:46Speaker 4: saw that a little bit of Crown Jewel, a little
- 5:48Speaker 4: bit the back and forth with Jay and Roman a
- 5:50Speaker 4: little bit, so there's still that element of I don't
- 5:53Speaker 4: trust who you are now because I saw who you
- 5:56Speaker 4: were the last four years. So really good storytelling, a
- 5:59Speaker 4: little bit of the humbling thing. I think they're they've
- 6:02Speaker 4: got the direction going now, they're just adding the depth
- 6:04Speaker 4: to make make the story make more sense.
- 6:07Speaker 3: The addition of Sammy's ain, doctor Trey.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Your thoughts on how that has gone through with Crown Jewel,
- 6:12Speaker 2: the follow up they did on Raw. It's all setting
- 6:14Speaker 2: up for a big segment on Friday SmackDown where Sammy's
- 6:17Speaker 2: am will be talking with the OTC himself.
- 6:19Speaker 4: Roman reigns, Yeah, no, it made sense when we first
- 6:23Speaker 4: saw the initial Sammy, Jay and Jimmy interactions. You're like
- 6:28Speaker 4: how can Sammy. Sammy's the one that you know, kind
- 6:31Speaker 4: of was the turning point in the disillusion of you know,
- 6:34Speaker 4: og bloodline if you want to call it that, and
- 6:37Speaker 4: to have them come back into it. The way they're
- 6:39Speaker 4: setting it up makes a lot of sense. I was
- 6:41Speaker 4: actually hoping for like a what they call before the
- 6:44Speaker 4: tribal the tribal roundtable, the tribal.
- 6:47Speaker 3: The court thing.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Yes, tribal court.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing went on for like fifty minutes. What
- 6:52Speaker 2: was an amazing segment.
- 6:54Speaker 4: Yeah, I was kind of hoping for, uh SmackDown, to
- 6:56Speaker 4: have tribal court with Roman on trial this time and
- 7:00Speaker 4: him trying to basically, you know, explain you know, his actions,
- 7:05Speaker 4: his thoughts and everything else. The segment on Raw was
- 7:09Speaker 4: great with Jimmy, Jay and Sammy, So I'm hoping we
- 7:13Speaker 4: get another great segment when you throw Roman into the
- 7:15Speaker 4: mix and maybe we give one big giant hugging it
- 7:18Speaker 4: out or something. I don't know, but the way they're
- 7:22Speaker 4: putting there, the way they're putting it together, makes more
- 7:25Speaker 4: sense than the old school ways of oh no we're fine, No, no,
- 7:29Speaker 4: you guys were just trying to kill each other, like
- 7:30Speaker 4: not too long ago, no, no, We're good now. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:34Speaker 4: at least now we're seeing some realistic mindsets when these
- 7:38Speaker 4: storylines are going on.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Or just like randomly changing a team name from.
- 7:43Speaker 2: A Stable to Blackpool Combat Club to Death Writers without
- 7:46Speaker 2: any explanation.
- 7:48Speaker 3: I don't know how this will correlate on.
- 7:50Speaker 2: The podcast, but Sammy posts it on his Instagram, the
- 7:53Speaker 2: photo of the USOS and Roman as young kids and
- 7:58Speaker 2: then him thrown in there as a young kid that
- 8:00Speaker 2: was out there their own like white T shirts. It's
- 8:02Speaker 2: a very classic photo, and he wrote as the caption,
- 8:06Speaker 2: and it just makes me laugh every single time. He wrote,
- 8:09Speaker 2: I remember the day we took this photo. Well, it
- 8:12Speaker 2: was a Friday. We went out that night, and I
- 8:14Speaker 2: remember it clearly because we were listening to DMX on
- 8:17Speaker 2: the way to the club and it was the first
- 8:19Speaker 2: time I edited I'd ever heard someone say that a
- 8:22Speaker 2: song was quote tight. Great times, but sadly those days
- 8:26Speaker 2: are gone. Stamy having a little bit of fun with it,
- 8:29Speaker 2: but that was that just cracked me up. Loved the
- 8:32Speaker 2: opening to the show. I've loved the follow up here
- 8:35Speaker 2: and once again captivated by everything that the Bloodline does
- 8:38Speaker 2: and their storyline overall. Next Match here is Jade card Gill,
- 8:42Speaker 2: Bianca bell Air defeating Damage Control, Metaphor and Chelsea Green
- 8:45Speaker 2: and Piper Niven in a fatal four way match, retaining
- 8:48Speaker 2: the WA Women's Tag Team Championship.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Both Doctor and I had Jade and Bianca.
- 8:52Speaker 2: I feel like we are starting here and see some
- 8:54Speaker 2: foreshadowing on eventual split with bell Air and Cargill as
- 8:57Speaker 2: Corey Graves mentioned their separate entrances heading into this match.
- 9:00Speaker 2: As for the match itself, I thought it was really
- 9:02Speaker 2: good as specifically the Metaphor girls held their own coming
- 9:06Speaker 2: up from NXT. There was some fall to follow up
- 9:08Speaker 2: to that on Mundane regards to bel airin Cargill starting
- 9:11Speaker 2: to see some foreshadowing going on as Live Morgan said
- 9:14Speaker 2: that it's only a matter of time before they turn
- 9:16Speaker 2: on one another. So it seems like we're starting to
- 9:19Speaker 2: get ramped up here, Doctor Trey, little pieces bread clumbs
- 9:22Speaker 2: are being put all over the place that a Bianco
- 9:24Speaker 2: Jade split is probably incoming, which I'm digging your thoughts
- 9:28Speaker 2: on this match from Crown Jewel.
- 9:31Speaker 4: Pleasantly surprised, how's that one? Because I really didn't have
- 9:35Speaker 4: high expert like look Damage controlling the match They're fantastic.
- 9:38Speaker 4: I can watch Damage Control pretty much wrestle anytime, especially
- 9:44Speaker 4: Eo Skuy metaphor stepping up into that role and doing
- 9:48Speaker 4: a really good job. I was surprised because I'm not
- 9:51Speaker 4: the biggest you know, Lash legend fan. You know, the
- 9:55Speaker 4: whole thing wasn't huge, but they did really well. And
- 9:58Speaker 4: then you know beyonc and they can have a great match,
- 10:01Speaker 4: and then they can have an awful match. It just
- 10:02Speaker 4: kind of goes back and forth. You never know what
- 10:04Speaker 4: you're gonna get. This match was actually pretty well done.
- 10:07Speaker 4: I love the tension building between Beyonce and Jade. I
- 10:10Speaker 4: love how they followed it up, not only Corey commenting
- 10:12Speaker 4: on it, you know at Crown Jewel, but then Live
- 10:15Speaker 4: you know, bring it up again on Raw. This to
- 10:18Speaker 4: me is just like, yeah, I fully expect them to
- 10:20Speaker 4: break up at Rumble to lead to a WrestleMania match.
- 10:23Speaker 4: So the tensions there, we just got to build up
- 10:26Speaker 4: a couple of these are tag teams, so that way
- 10:28Speaker 4: we feel like they're actually on par with Beyonce and Jay.
- 10:32Speaker 4: So when that split happens, the women's tag division doesn't
- 10:35Speaker 4: fall apart.
- 10:37Speaker 2: Next match, here is Seth freaking Ronalds defeeding Bronson reed.
- 10:40Speaker 2: We both had Seth rawals to win this one. Something
- 10:42Speaker 2: I noticed at the beginning of this match was I
- 10:45Speaker 2: wonder if they are quietly trying to slowly drop Freaking
- 10:48Speaker 2: from Seth Roald's name.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Was it on? It was not on the Titan tron
- 10:52Speaker 3: Is Graphics at Seth Rons.
- 10:54Speaker 2: I'm like, are they trying to do that? I could
- 10:56Speaker 2: see freaky is more of a Vince Picman thing than
- 10:58Speaker 2: a Triple H thing. On all honesty as well well
- 11:01Speaker 2: as I only heard the ring announcer mention it, and
- 11:02Speaker 2: the announceers graphics just referred to him as Seth Rollins,
- 11:05Speaker 2: and I lost. I thought Bronson Reid looked really good,
- 11:07Speaker 2: which is what we needed in this match, and they
- 11:09Speaker 2: should follow that up with an eventual win against Ronalds
- 11:11Speaker 2: help elevate Reid as Bronson's anger got the best of
- 11:15Speaker 2: him in Rewalds capitalized in this one. Ronald saying you
- 11:18Speaker 2: should have finished me when you had the chance was
- 11:19Speaker 2: a really good touch. Plus Reid standing up post match
- 11:22Speaker 2: was a cool moment. I thought this was Reid's best
- 11:24Speaker 2: WWE match. They followed up on Raw where he got
- 11:27Speaker 2: involved in the fatal four way number one contenders match
- 11:30Speaker 2: for the World Away Championship. He takes out Seth Rollins.
- 11:32Speaker 2: He looks like a monster, he looks like a beast.
- 11:34Speaker 2: He takes out Damien, he takes out Seamus, you know,
- 11:36Speaker 2: the Alps, dirty Dom and get the victory.
- 11:39Speaker 3: I'm a fan of Bronson Reid. If it wasn't Seth
- 11:41Speaker 3: Rowinds in this match, and this is what we said
- 11:43Speaker 3: going into this one. If it wasn't Seth Ronalds going
- 11:45Speaker 3: in this match, I'm like, you got to put Bronson
- 11:46Speaker 3: Reid over. But because of the year that Seth Rollins
- 11:48Speaker 3: has had.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Where he's been in and out injured on TV for
- 11:52Speaker 2: a little bit, off TV for a little bit, it's
- 11:54Speaker 2: like Seth needs a win. And the way they booked
- 11:56Speaker 2: this match to me, with all those different variables in place,
- 11:59Speaker 2: was perfect because everybody came out of this one looking
- 12:02Speaker 2: pretty good.
- 12:03Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's your ultimate goal when you have a
- 12:05Speaker 4: babyface beat your monster, you want your monsters still looks
- 12:08Speaker 4: strong and not just completely discounted and toss aside. So
- 12:13Speaker 4: I thought this made this made a lot of sense.
- 12:15Speaker 4: Seth gets to win and he it wasn't like, you know,
- 12:18Speaker 4: It was kind of like a flukey win in a sense,
- 12:20Speaker 4: like because Bronton had control of it, so Seth gust
- 12:22Speaker 4: to win. Bronton is like a monster my hope coming
- 12:25Speaker 4: out of Monday Night. I after seen that, I was like, man,
- 12:27Speaker 4: would it be great to see Bronton Reid end up
- 12:29Speaker 4: in the Judgment Day because they need a muscle guy
- 12:32Speaker 4: to kind of back up all the little guys in
- 12:35Speaker 4: Judgment Day. If you end up trading out Carlito for
- 12:38Speaker 4: Bronton Reid, I'm on board with as well, and then
- 12:41Speaker 4: that can do. You can basically kind of run the
- 12:42Speaker 4: same angle you ran with Damien where at some point
- 12:45Speaker 4: he gets super over and the little guys kicking out
- 12:47Speaker 4: of the group. So I just I really enjoyed it
- 12:50Speaker 4: because it led to some you know things that you go, hey,
- 12:53Speaker 4: they could go this route and that'd be cool. And
- 12:55Speaker 4: if not, hey, Bronton Restill looks like a badass, which
- 12:58Speaker 4: is what you want to have.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Next match on this one was Live Morgan, the Women's
- 13:02Speaker 2: World Champion, defeating Naia Jacks at w Women's Champion to
- 13:05Speaker 2: win the WI Women's Crowndule Championship.
- 13:07Speaker 3: I had lived out trade Naya Jacks I.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Am most injured about the follow up to this all
- 13:13Speaker 2: post matches, I'm not sure where Live Morgan goes from
- 13:15Speaker 2: here with Ri on the Shelf.
- 13:16Speaker 3: We'll talk about that later on the show.
- 13:18Speaker 2: The way this match went led me to believe that
- 13:20Speaker 2: Nai and Live or not done, but I can't see
- 13:22Speaker 2: direction yet where that would continue being on opposite brands.
- 13:25Speaker 3: They did not follow up on Raw on Monday Night.
- 13:27Speaker 2: I like the Tiffany's trying to starting to rebel a
- 13:29Speaker 2: little bit against Naijacks by threatening to tempting to cash
- 13:32Speaker 2: in on her. Your thoughts on this one, Doctor Treys
- 13:34Speaker 2: Live Morgan is the ww Women's Crown Duel Champion.
- 13:38Speaker 4: It was a solid match. I sometimes when you have
- 13:42Speaker 4: monsters versus cruiserweights, which is basically kind of this, it
- 13:46Speaker 4: can either go really really bad or really really good.
- 13:49Speaker 4: Sometimes contrasts and styles make great matches. Sometimes they're just bad.
- 13:54Speaker 4: This one I really enjoyed. I thought they did a
- 13:57Speaker 4: well job, like a really good job of selling you know,
- 14:00Speaker 4: lives deviousness versus Nia's power. I'm still this match that
- 14:06Speaker 4: was kind of I'm like, I don't really understand this
- 14:08Speaker 4: whole Crown Jewel Championship thing. Because they don't really get
- 14:13Speaker 4: the belt. They end up with the ring and the
- 14:15Speaker 4: belt stays. That is still a little confusing.
- 14:18Speaker 1: Uh.
- 14:19Speaker 4: It just kind of reminds me of basically, this is
- 14:21Speaker 4: Crown Jewl's not gonna be like in the Super Bowl
- 14:23Speaker 4: where you get a trophy, uh and not a belt.
- 14:26Speaker 4: So it is what it is. But it also be
- 14:28Speaker 4: thinking like, man Live really is the dominant controlling female
- 14:33Speaker 4: in WWE right now, it's not. I mean, the horse
- 14:36Speaker 4: women outside of Bailey are basically all gone or on
- 14:39Speaker 4: the shelf. Rhea's in and out, Like putting Live over
- 14:43Speaker 4: here kind of shows how much faith they have in
- 14:46Speaker 4: her as being the focal point of the whole women's roster,
- 14:51Speaker 4: not just a fill in champion right now.
- 14:54Speaker 3: That's true.
- 14:55Speaker 2: We're about like six eight weeks away from our end
- 14:57Speaker 2: of the year award show, and without giving away who
- 15:00Speaker 2: you would choose right now, did this victory the way
- 15:03Speaker 2: that things are going, Rhea going on the shelf shelf
- 15:06Speaker 2: time with Tony Storm not really being around since all
- 15:09Speaker 2: in all out timeframe, did Live Morgan pull ahead potentially
- 15:14Speaker 2: as the female rest of the year.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Yeah, It's very possible because I mean it kind of
- 15:19Speaker 4: depends on I mean, if you had gone just through June,
- 15:24Speaker 4: I probably would have had Lived like fourth or fifth.
- 15:27Speaker 4: But with Rhea's injury, Tony Storm taking time off, some
- 15:33Speaker 4: of the other women not really stepping their game up
- 15:35Speaker 4: to I just feel like Live's gone to a different
- 15:37Speaker 4: level since her return. So if you had a call
- 15:41Speaker 4: right now, I would give the edge to Live over
- 15:43Speaker 4: everybody else in women's wrestling.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Next match here is Randy or versus Kevin Owens being
- 15:49Speaker 2: ruled a no contest as the match never took place,
- 15:52Speaker 2: So we had Kevin Owens in this one, but the
- 15:54Speaker 2: match never happened. I thought this was a good way
- 15:56Speaker 2: to keep the violence of the feud going. I'm not
- 15:59Speaker 2: a fan of a no contest no contest slash DQ,
- 16:02Speaker 2: but this was executed pretty well and made a lot
- 16:04Speaker 2: of sense. I wonder if Orrin and Owen's direction as
- 16:07Speaker 2: an eventual three way match with Cody as soon as
- 16:11Speaker 2: relatively soon, because there's been a couple of vignettes or
- 16:13Speaker 2: backstage segments where Randy's been eyeing the w un Disputed
- 16:16Speaker 2: Championship lately. I was fine with this, Doctor Trey. I
- 16:20Speaker 2: don't like seeing promoted matches never take place, especially for
- 16:23Speaker 2: the crowd.
- 16:24Speaker 3: But I thought the way that they did this.
- 16:26Speaker 2: Made sense, and I thought fans were sent home happy
- 16:30Speaker 2: because it was a well thought out.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Plan for the way that this match went to a
- 16:34Speaker 3: no contest.
- 16:35Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, I didn't hate it, but I felt
- 16:40Speaker 4: I don't know, like in my head when I saw this,
- 16:42Speaker 4: I was like, you could have booked it this way
- 16:45Speaker 4: and you could have booked it as a different way.
- 16:48Speaker 4: That's only because I think it was right before that
- 16:51Speaker 4: they did the Crown Jewel press conference and Kevin Owens
- 16:54Speaker 4: was like sealing ray Ordy. He's like, I would have
- 16:56Speaker 4: never done to you what you did to me. I
- 16:59Speaker 4: loved you, Da da da. It felt like this route
- 17:02Speaker 4: was an amplification of violence when they didn't really have
- 17:07Speaker 4: that much leading into a couple weeks before. It just
- 17:11Speaker 4: felt like they jumped a level. Like I'm fine with it.
- 17:13Speaker 4: It makes sense. I get why they did it, but
- 17:16Speaker 4: I could have easily seen just Kevin Ellen was going,
- 17:18Speaker 4: you know, I'm not doing this match and just rolled
- 17:20Speaker 4: out of the ring and walked away. So there's a
- 17:21Speaker 4: couple different ways that could have gone with it. But
- 17:24Speaker 4: you know, I'm fine with the route. They did. I
- 17:27Speaker 4: just felt like they just kind of jumped it. They
- 17:29Speaker 4: jumped over a level and putting this together.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean most of the time you want to
- 17:35Speaker 2: see the match take place, but I guess for the
- 17:38Speaker 2: few it it made sense to me. I mean, I
- 17:43Speaker 2: don't like no contest, but I thought that the way
- 17:45Speaker 2: that it was so violent and laid each other out
- 17:48Speaker 2: and injuries and all that stuff, that I just felt like,
- 17:51Speaker 2: all right, that makes sense. Let's see where it goes
- 17:53Speaker 2: from here, because I think the direction is these two
- 17:56Speaker 2: guys will be in a three way match with Cody
- 17:58Speaker 2: at some point.
- 18:00Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I don't. It wasn't I that I disliked it.
- 18:04Speaker 4: I understood why they did it. It just felt like,
- 18:07Speaker 4: other than what a couple of small physical interactions leading
- 18:11Speaker 4: into it, it's basically just been a lot of talk
- 18:13Speaker 4: if I'm wrong, No, no.
- 18:15Speaker 3: You're right, But I mean Owens has been on TV.
- 18:18Speaker 3: Did they like sending him home?
- 18:20Speaker 4: But it just felt like to have it go to
- 18:22Speaker 4: this all out kind of brawl between these guys when
- 18:25Speaker 4: they really haven't is because it, like the vignettes I'm
- 18:29Speaker 4: watching is kind of Ko telling Randy he's wrong and
- 18:34Speaker 4: do you.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Think like Ko's gone a little bit crazy.
- 18:38Speaker 4: Yeah to it, agree, But once again, Randy's Randy's the
- 18:42Speaker 4: new cerebral assassin. I don't know if he to me,
- 18:45Speaker 4: he's he's more mental in his aspects than he is violent,
- 18:49Speaker 4: you know, which was always like the Triple H character,
- 18:51Speaker 4: which I think Randy's kind of taken over that role.
- 18:54Speaker 4: I don't know if his character would have It's kind
- 18:58Speaker 4: of like just a dichotomy of the character. I don't
- 19:00Speaker 4: know if Randy's character right now is to go to
- 19:04Speaker 4: straight violence without thinking it out. And I felt like
- 19:09Speaker 4: it's just I don't know, Like I said, I could
- 19:11Speaker 4: have I don't have a problem with the way they
- 19:12Speaker 4: did it. I would have also been, like, you know,
- 19:16Speaker 4: if Kao had got in the ring the bell got
- 19:18Speaker 4: ready to ring, he just dipped out and walked down
- 19:20Speaker 4: and goes, no, I'm not fighting you, Randy, I love you.
- 19:23Speaker 4: You're wrong on this one. I'm not going to be
- 19:25Speaker 4: the one that jur your career like this. You're wrong,
- 19:28Speaker 4: We're not doing this and walked away. So I'm fine
- 19:31Speaker 4: with the way they did it. I just still would
- 19:33Speaker 4: have liked to see a little more build up to
- 19:35Speaker 4: physicality before they got to that level. If I don't
- 19:39Speaker 4: know that makes sense to you, But that's kind of
- 19:41Speaker 4: like I want to see one more step before we
- 19:44Speaker 4: get to a match that you can't even control it
- 19:47Speaker 4: all because they have that much hatred now all of
- 19:50Speaker 4: a sudden.
- 19:51Speaker 3: No, it makes sense. But King you also take into
- 19:53Speaker 3: account that like Ko started this, I mean physically he started.
- 19:57Speaker 4: This, Yeah, but it wasn't the shot like in his
- 20:00Speaker 4: mind accidental the initial shots and Randy hit him.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Randy had the back elbow, right, accidental elbow, so that
- 20:09Speaker 2: would have been an accident in his mind Randy's mind, right, Yeah.
- 20:14Speaker 3: And more, Kevin Owens is upset that he's like siding
- 20:17Speaker 3: with Cody Roads, that's the side that he picked.
- 20:20Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get, like I said, I don't have
- 20:22Speaker 4: a problem with it. I think it's fine the way
- 20:24Speaker 4: they did it. I just wanted to see because Ko's
- 20:27Speaker 4: a hot head, he's hot tempered, he's gonna fire off. Randy, though,
- 20:32Speaker 4: was more meticulous in what he does. So the Randy
- 20:35Speaker 4: character I thought should have been a little bit more
- 20:37Speaker 4: strategic in the approach and not just go to straight
- 20:40Speaker 4: brawling all out, you know. But then I don't know,
- 20:44Speaker 4: I guys said I I don't have a problem with it.
- 20:46Speaker 4: I just there are other ways of getting into it
- 20:49Speaker 4: to increase the anticipation for an all out brawl instead
- 20:53Speaker 4: of just jumping right to the all out brawl.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Yeah, the no contest DQ stuff is strange. I think
- 21:00Speaker 2: think a lot of wrestling fans can't. We can't get
- 21:02Speaker 2: our heads around it because it's not it's not the
- 21:05Speaker 2: result that we like when you're watching, Like a PLA,
- 21:08Speaker 2: you want to do it during TV, fine, but a PLA,
- 21:10Speaker 2: it's like, uh really, like come on, guys, people pay
- 21:13Speaker 2: actually watch this shit.
- 21:15Speaker 4: It's also a way to keep both guys from having
- 21:17Speaker 4: a loss when you're trying to build them up to
- 21:20Speaker 4: then include Cody into it, which is one thing that
- 21:22Speaker 4: we have kind of knocked WWE on is we haven't
- 21:26Speaker 4: had that great, strong challenger for Cody yet. This is
- 21:30Speaker 4: a way of keeping both guys strong, no losses on
- 21:33Speaker 4: their resume, so that way, when we go to a
- 21:35Speaker 4: triple threat or we go to something with these guys,
- 21:38Speaker 4: it makes no more sense and both guys have their
- 21:40Speaker 4: credibility re established.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Next match here is La Night defeating Andrade and Carmelo
- 21:45Speaker 2: Hayes in a triple threat match retain the w United
- 21:47Speaker 2: States Championship with both at La Night and this one
- 21:50Speaker 2: that was one of the most innovative finishers finishes I've
- 21:53Speaker 2: ever seen in a triple threat match, with Carmelo going
- 21:55Speaker 2: for the Hurricane roun a facebuster on Androde only be
- 21:58Speaker 2: caught with a BFT for La Knight for the one
- 22:00Speaker 2: two three.
- 22:01Speaker 3: This is an old school feel for feel for me
- 22:05Speaker 3: or the upper mid car title.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Some strong competitors in it that can steal the show
- 22:09Speaker 2: at any given night if given the opportunity, and I
- 22:12Speaker 2: hope that the US title division continues to draw on SmackDown.
- 22:14Speaker 2: I enjoyed this one outch Trey your thoughts as La
- 22:17Speaker 2: Night retained.
- 22:18Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really fun mattery. It's weird. I don't
- 22:21Speaker 4: know if I've always bought in as Andrade as a
- 22:23Speaker 4: baby face because I love him as a heel so much,
- 22:26Speaker 4: but in this situation, I thought it made sense because
- 22:29Speaker 4: Carmelo's over as a heel and Drade's kind of in,
- 22:32Speaker 4: you know, people want to cheer for him, but he's
- 22:34Speaker 4: kind of in the middle, and La Knight's been love
- 22:35Speaker 4: so it made sense that you have a heel a
- 22:38Speaker 4: guy that's kind of in the middle and then the
- 22:39Speaker 4: baby face, but the babyface kind of acts like an asshole,
- 22:43Speaker 4: so it works out well. So really fun match, creative finish.
- 22:48Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know how if you think about
- 22:51Speaker 4: this is what I do. I almost like La Knight's
- 22:54Speaker 4: too over to be in the mid card title hunt,
- 22:57Speaker 4: Like he should be higher up the food chain because
- 23:00Speaker 4: it's like all the mid car guys on SmackDown haven't
- 23:03Speaker 4: been established enough to be on his level. So like
- 23:07Speaker 4: when he's fighting Santos Escobar or Carmelo or even Andrade,
- 23:11Speaker 4: it always feels like it's a little overmatched that La
- 23:13Speaker 4: Knight's really heavily favored in every one of these. I
- 23:16Speaker 4: think we got still got to build some guys up
- 23:18Speaker 4: and have a couple guys get some victories over or
- 23:21Speaker 4: beat l A. Knight down, so that way you go, yeah,
- 23:24Speaker 4: I see that he could be in trouble here. The
- 23:27Speaker 4: triple threats are just a way to kind of do
- 23:29Speaker 4: the whole well, he's only got a thirty three percent
- 23:32Speaker 4: chance to win if it's a triple threat. It's that
- 23:34Speaker 4: kind of selling. I always hate, I hear you.
- 23:36Speaker 2: I really feel like WWE should look back at like
- 23:40Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine Rock when he was over as a babyface,
- 23:43Speaker 2: but he was still acting as a heel, very arrogant,
- 23:46Speaker 2: and very similar to the La Night character, which sometimes
- 23:48Speaker 2: is a detriment to La Knight and often pointing out
- 23:50Speaker 2: by some people. I would look at that, at the
- 23:53Speaker 2: way that they booked Rock back then, you got to
- 23:55Speaker 2: make him still look like a sympathetic babyface and not
- 23:58Speaker 2: to be looking like this guy who's an upper mid
- 24:01Speaker 2: carter that should be in the main event picture, but
- 24:04Speaker 2: utilizing him well in the upper mid cart right now
- 24:07Speaker 2: while you still can and are because the main event
- 24:10Speaker 2: is a little bit more congested than anything else.
- 24:13Speaker 3: So that's what I would say. I do see those similarities.
- 24:16Speaker 2: It's funny that you point this out, because as I
- 24:18Speaker 2: was watching Crown Jewel, I was like, I think it
- 24:21Speaker 2: was a year ago where he was in the match
- 24:23Speaker 2: with Roman Reigns and that was on the part of
- 24:25Speaker 2: his comeuppance in w And I'm like, is he a
- 24:28Speaker 2: bigger star now than he was back then? And I
- 24:32Speaker 2: think it's just kind of like even playing field, He's
- 24:34Speaker 2: not less of a star as he was a year ago.
- 24:37Speaker 2: He's not more of a star as he was a
- 24:38Speaker 2: year ago. He's just kind of stayed that way, which
- 24:41Speaker 2: is a good thing because sometimes when people are on
- 24:43Speaker 2: a rocket ship ascending upwards, they can crash back to
- 24:47Speaker 2: Earth pretty easily and effectively if the fans don't get
- 24:51Speaker 2: behind them anymore. He's maintained that, and I think that's
- 24:55Speaker 2: a good thing for the long term of La Night.
- 24:56Speaker 2: But going back to your point, doctor, I would look
- 24:58Speaker 2: back at like ninety nine Rock and be like, Okay,
- 25:00Speaker 2: how did we how did we get the heels over
- 25:03Speaker 2: on him a little bit more?
- 25:05Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just for a company that has as many
- 25:08Speaker 4: groups and factions as they do, Uh, you would think
- 25:11Speaker 4: it'd be maybe a carrying cross faction, although they're on
- 25:15Speaker 4: raw now, but something like that where you have other guys,
- 25:19Speaker 4: even Santos with you know, the Garzas, you know, have
- 25:23Speaker 4: all of them be down La Knight. You guess you
- 25:25Speaker 4: just gotta get some sympathy because right now, like when
- 25:28Speaker 4: I watch the shows, I'm like, I don't feel like
- 25:29Speaker 4: La Knights in Jeopardy of losing matches to a lot
- 25:34Speaker 4: of these guys because there just doesn't seem any there's
- 25:36Speaker 4: not enough obstacles in his way. It just feels like
- 25:39Speaker 4: he's just kind of running through guys, and it does also,
- 25:42Speaker 4: I don't know about you, does it Does it feel
- 25:44Speaker 4: like he's elevating anybody in the mid card division right
- 25:47Speaker 4: now in this run? And I the Rock compareson is
- 25:50Speaker 4: great because I feel like Rock elevated Ken Shamrocks and
- 25:52Speaker 4: the Owen Harts and some of those guys in that
- 25:55Speaker 4: in that mid card division back in ninety nine. I
- 25:57Speaker 4: don't know if I feel like La Knight's elevating anybody
- 26:00Speaker 4: else to get closer to his level because we just
- 26:02Speaker 4: don't see what. I just don't feel like he's in
- 26:04Speaker 4: jeopardy at all right now.
- 26:06Speaker 2: I think you and I look at this type of
- 26:07Speaker 2: stuff differently because we watch all forms of wrestling. I
- 26:11Speaker 2: think if I took a step back, I would say
- 26:14Speaker 2: Andrade and Carmelo have been elevated being involved with La Knight,
- 26:19Speaker 2: all right.
- 26:20Speaker 4: I mean I can say that they elevate themselves based
- 26:23Speaker 4: on those six matches they had.
- 26:24Speaker 3: But but what's the next step from those matches that series?
- 26:28Speaker 3: And that would this would be it?
- 26:30Speaker 4: Yeah? No, you're right, I feel like, yeah, but do
- 26:33Speaker 4: you feel like Santos got elevated in his little rivalry
- 26:36Speaker 4: he had with l Knight.
- 26:37Speaker 3: No, No, they need to do more with Santos Escumor.
- 26:39Speaker 3: He's very, very talented.
- 26:41Speaker 4: Yeah, I just feel like sometimes you when you have
- 26:43Speaker 4: a strong mid card champion, you just gotta have some
- 26:47Speaker 4: you gotta feel like you're bringing other guys up to
- 26:49Speaker 4: that level. And it's weird to say that about Andrada.
- 26:50Speaker 4: This guy's been a multiple time champion. It's just that
- 26:53Speaker 4: I feel like since he came back, he's plateaued at
- 26:57Speaker 4: like a mid card level, where lle Knight's at an
- 26:59Speaker 4: upper mid car our lower main event level. I don't
- 27:01Speaker 4: feel like andrades up to his level. But that's why
- 27:04Speaker 4: you put him in a triple threat, because that increases
- 27:07Speaker 4: the odds of them losing, and it'd be okay. I
- 27:10Speaker 4: just feel like if you said, hey, La Night's going
- 27:12Speaker 4: one on one with Andrade, or La Night's going one
- 27:14Speaker 4: on one with Carmelo, I just figure most fans are
- 27:16Speaker 4: gonna go, Yeah, it's an easy win. That's a win
- 27:18Speaker 4: for La Night. You put him in a triple threat
- 27:21Speaker 4: match because it does increase the obstacle to it. But
- 27:25Speaker 4: I just don't feel like those guys are on his level.
- 27:28Speaker 4: Yet comparatively speaking.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Well to your original point, baby Face Andrade against l
- 27:35Speaker 2: A Night not doing it for me, lack of elevation.
- 27:39Speaker 2: Andrade when he's turned heel is one of the best.
- 27:42Speaker 2: I think, Yes, you gotta turn him heel in a
- 27:44Speaker 2: feud here with LA nine and that and him winning
- 27:46Speaker 2: the US Championship would make a ton of sense, and
- 27:48Speaker 2: it elevates Andrade. I mean they're if I'm if there's
- 27:52Speaker 2: a bagging of the drum of like, oh right, which
- 27:55Speaker 2: baby face should we turn heel?
- 27:56Speaker 3: Right now? In w A without question? Andredes one of
- 27:59Speaker 3: those names that I mentioned, Oh.
- 28:01Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I can't. I could agree with more right
- 28:04Speaker 4: down there.
- 28:05Speaker 2: And then finally the main event, Cody Roads, the endisp
- 28:07Speaker 2: at W champion, defeats gun thro World of Weight Champion
- 28:10Speaker 2: to win the Men's W Crowndewel Championship. We both had,
- 28:12Speaker 2: Cody and this one enjoyable finish that protects the losing champion.
- 28:16Speaker 2: This one Gunther as it came off as Cody Rhodes
- 28:19Speaker 2: catching gun for the pin rather than outright beating him.
- 28:21Speaker 3: Solid performance from two.
- 28:22Speaker 2: Guys on top of their game in we handshake postmatch
- 28:27Speaker 2: following night or two nights later on Raw, Gunther said
- 28:31Speaker 2: that that Cody was a better man and had his respect.
- 28:35Speaker 2: I thought it was good all around. It was just
- 28:37Speaker 2: a very solid wrestling match, and I don't think anybody
- 28:41Speaker 2: looked bad. Your thoughts here, doctor Trey, as Cody is
- 28:43Speaker 2: the men's w WE Crown Jewel Champion.
- 28:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the match itself was really good, really enjoyable,
- 28:51Speaker 4: some really good ring psychology to it. It made sense.
- 28:55Speaker 4: I'm just not a huge fan of the post match handshakes.
- 28:59Speaker 4: I'm really not unless it's two baby faces. I don't
- 29:03Speaker 4: get it. I really don't like this is this. I
- 29:06Speaker 4: could never see Superman Alex Luthor shaking hands after a match,
- 29:11Speaker 4: and gun There's supposed to be a villainous champion. I
- 29:14Speaker 4: get it, the ring is sacred. He respects what Cody
- 29:17Speaker 4: did in that match, but I just I could do
- 29:20Speaker 4: without the handshakes. I just this is not my thing
- 29:23Speaker 4: and is probably the old curmudgeon in me that just
- 29:26Speaker 4: likes I like my strong, dividing lions against good guys
- 29:30Speaker 4: and bad guys. I don't like bad guys looking and
- 29:33Speaker 4: endearing or looking respectful at times. I just want Gunther
- 29:37Speaker 4: to go roll the ring and come back on wrong goo.
- 29:40Speaker 4: You know, we had a great match. Cody earned my
- 29:43Speaker 4: respect in his performance, but he got lucky. He should
- 29:45Speaker 4: never you know, that would never happen.
- 29:47Speaker 2: Again, to be fair, To be fair, You've always been
- 29:51Speaker 2: a fan of double kisses on the cheek right.
- 29:55Speaker 3: Kind of handshakes usually, but.
- 29:57Speaker 4: That's usually backstage when there's no cameras, and then you
- 30:00Speaker 4: know things can escalate.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.
- 30:02Speaker 2: I thought you were an in ring one kiss left cheek,
- 30:05Speaker 2: one kiss right cheek, and everybody's happy, like Nunzio did
- 30:09Speaker 2: on Wednesday's edition of nxt.
- 30:13Speaker 3: UH pay per view.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Prediction record for this one, I'm six and oh doct
- 30:17Speaker 2: trail one four and two on the year, I'm one,
- 30:19Speaker 2: thirty three and thirty six doctor Trail one twenty and
- 30:21Speaker 2: forty nine.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Match of the night. In event rating, I gave the
- 30:26Speaker 3: event a three point seven. I thought it was a
- 30:28Speaker 3: fine show and my favorite match was the blood Line
- 30:31Speaker 3: and Roman Reigns. In the USOS, let's say you.
- 30:33Speaker 4: Doctor Troit, I was a little ower. I was three
- 30:36Speaker 4: point five. My mentionine I was blood line in you know,
- 30:39Speaker 4: blood line and old blood line or repurpose blood line
- 30:43Speaker 4: or two blood.
- 30:43Speaker 3: Line, pretty purposed blood line.
- 30:45Speaker 4: I don't know, but yeah, that was my match then.
- 30:48Speaker 4: And then I guess at three point five on the show,
- 30:50Speaker 4: I thought it was I thought it was a solid show.
- 30:52Speaker 4: But once again, I don't think there's anything to other
- 30:57Speaker 4: than Sammy kicking Roman. There's really nothing going to be
- 30:59Speaker 4: super memorable three years from now about it.
- 31:02Speaker 2: No, I would agree with you, all right, So I
- 31:05Speaker 2: just mentioned Nunzo, I mentioned NXT. Last night was the
- 31:10Speaker 2: one night only WWE versus AW W NXC versus AW
- 31:15Speaker 2: Wednesday Night War as NXT slid over to Wednesday nights
- 31:19Speaker 2: due to the election coverage here in the United States.
- 31:23Speaker 2: NXC was emanating from ECW Arena twenty three hundred Arena
- 31:27Speaker 2: in Philadelphia and AW was emanating Dynamite from College in
- 31:32Speaker 2: New Hampshire. I went into this one Doctor Trey being like,
- 31:38Speaker 2: I want to watch NXT, and that was a show
- 31:40Speaker 2: that I watched.
- 31:40Speaker 3: First.
- 31:41Speaker 2: I watched NXT live. I watched AW on DVR. What
- 31:47Speaker 2: was your viewing of this? Did you watch either show live?
- 31:50Speaker 2: Did you watch them on DVR later on? What were
- 31:53Speaker 2: your thoughts on that? And then what we'll do is
- 31:55Speaker 2: we'll discuss who we thought walked out of the One
- 31:58Speaker 2: Night Only Wednesday Night or the Victor.
- 32:01Speaker 3: So, how did you go about watching ones? And I
- 32:04Speaker 3: wore on last night?
- 32:06Speaker 4: So I had NXT on live. Now, mind you running
- 32:11Speaker 4: a fever several trips of the bathroom during the show,
- 32:14Speaker 4: so there may be a couple of things that I missed.
- 32:17Speaker 4: I had to go back and read to see what
- 32:19Speaker 4: I might have missed while I was trying to compensate.
- 32:23Speaker 4: I actually watched Dynamite this morning, so that was my viewings,
- 32:30Speaker 4: and that's my and that's my typical antime. These shows
- 32:32Speaker 4: overlap or things like that happened. That's typically I'll watch
- 32:35Speaker 4: the ww stuff live and then catch aw on. Well
- 32:39Speaker 4: you say DVR, I have an app that streams all
- 32:42Speaker 4: the wrestling shows to me. So that's kind of my
- 32:46Speaker 4: viewing habits anyway.
- 32:48Speaker 2: So looking back at the show, my recap, I'll be
- 32:50Speaker 2: interested with doctor Trey said, I'll just come out in
- 32:53Speaker 2: the open here. Neither show blew me away as a
- 32:57Speaker 2: wrestling fan. If I had to pick one over the other,
- 33:01Speaker 2: I thought the.
- 33:02Speaker 3: Better show was just slightly aw Dynamite. Last night.
- 33:06Speaker 2: I thought WWE, NXT and the ECW Arena kind of
- 33:10Speaker 2: felt like a mixed match, rushed show, got off the
- 33:15Speaker 2: beaten path the success that they've had as of late
- 33:18Speaker 2: as a show, and was so uber focused on ECW
- 33:22Speaker 2: and all that stuff, and I was like, Okay, that
- 33:24Speaker 2: makes a ton of sense. There were some great cameos,
- 33:26Speaker 2: some returns Rhino RVD that was a lot of fun.
- 33:30Speaker 3: In nostalgia.
- 33:31Speaker 2: I thought from a viewing standpoint, it looked like relatively small,
- 33:35Speaker 2: like there was maybe five hundred fans in attendance. I
- 33:38Speaker 2: always thought the ECW arena could fit.
- 33:40Speaker 3: More than that.
- 33:42Speaker 2: I would have gone a little bit more on the
- 33:44Speaker 2: nostalgia front, and I wouldn't have done your typical NXT
- 33:48Speaker 2: ringing that entrance. I would have done the old ECW
- 33:52Speaker 2: like NXC style entrance with the brick and the barboire.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Let them come out that way. I would have tried
- 33:58Speaker 2: to get Joey Styles.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Maybe they did.
- 34:00Speaker 2: I don't know where Joey Styles is at anymore to
- 34:02Speaker 2: be involved in this one. The ring announcer from ECW
- 34:05Speaker 2: I would have brought back for this one. Let Mike
- 34:07Speaker 2: Rome sit it out. He was over in Saudi Arabia
- 34:09Speaker 2: a couple days ago. Make it all ECW in that sense,
- 34:13Speaker 2: and I thought that they missed a little bit out
- 34:14Speaker 2: on it. So I thought from the viewing standpoint, it didn't.
- 34:17Speaker 2: It just felt like an arena that Impact Wrestling TNA
- 34:21Speaker 2: would have their shows taped in, rather than something that
- 34:25Speaker 2: looked like the ECW.
- 34:26Speaker 3: Arena at one time.
- 34:28Speaker 2: AW Dynamite was just it was fine. It wasn't anything
- 34:34Speaker 2: that blew it out of the water. I liked last
- 34:36Speaker 2: week's episode versus this week's episode. But when you're comparing
- 34:39Speaker 2: the two, I watched NXT live AW Dynamite on DVR
- 34:45Speaker 2: on demand. It was the better show to me was
- 34:49Speaker 2: AW Dynamite, and it just was like a tick more.
- 34:52Speaker 2: It was like neither one was amazing great blew the
- 34:55Speaker 2: other one out of the water. I just thought AW
- 34:59Speaker 2: was slightly better. Doctor Trey, what were your thoughts as
- 35:02Speaker 2: you compared the two and and and give us who
- 35:04Speaker 2: you thought was the better show on on Wednesday Night
- 35:08Speaker 2: this past week.
- 35:10Speaker 4: So it's weird, like like, as far as an actual show,
- 35:15Speaker 4: I thought AW had a better show as far as
- 35:19Speaker 4: continuing storylines, adding depth, you know, creating intrigue stuff like that.
- 35:24Speaker 4: WW might a one because of the nostalgia aspect of it,
- 35:27Speaker 4: because I mean, look, it was great that Trick couldn't
- 35:30Speaker 4: find a table, so we got Devon to come out
- 35:33Speaker 4: and get the tables. Seeing they were actually between RVD
- 35:37Speaker 4: and wes Lee. I thought that was really cool in
- 35:39Speaker 4: the sense of, like, man, these are basically the two
- 35:42Speaker 4: best high flyers, one of their generations, one with our generation.
- 35:46Speaker 4: And then throwing Javon Evans into mixer that was great.
- 35:49Speaker 4: You get Don Marie out there and there's Francin and
- 35:51Speaker 4: a ringsi on. I was waiting for a cat fight
- 35:53Speaker 4: to break out, you know, in the front row. But
- 35:56Speaker 4: it felt like a w W E c W show.
- 36:00Speaker 4: It felt like that those shows from that era of
- 36:04Speaker 4: the ECW that w was using that we all didn't
- 36:07Speaker 4: like that much because it wasn't ECW, it was their version.
- 36:11Speaker 4: It felt kind of like that. And although the matches
- 36:15Speaker 4: had continuance of their storylines, the nostalgia aspect kind of
- 36:20Speaker 4: took away from the build to those storty lines. Like
- 36:23Speaker 4: the only match that really had any kind of continuance
- 36:26Speaker 4: of their storylines was the Ladies made the Ladies five
- 36:28Speaker 4: on five match. Everything else kind of felt like, yeah,
- 36:32Speaker 4: there's there are in a few, but we got we
- 36:34Speaker 4: had to shove these guys into it. So as far
- 36:36Speaker 4: as a workable show storyline wise, depth, you know, all
- 36:41Speaker 4: that stuff, I thought AW was a little bit better
- 36:43Speaker 4: than WWE. But seeing Rhino Gore, Robert Stone was fantastic,
- 36:48Speaker 4: you know, seeing some of that stuff that was great,
- 36:50Speaker 4: But the depth of that show was less than what
- 36:54Speaker 4: AW was putting on. So I gave AW the edge
- 36:56Speaker 4: on having a better show for their product in their future.
- 37:01Speaker 3: The other thing, and I hate doing this, but clearly,
- 37:04Speaker 3: uh time catches up to all of us. Rvd's not wrestling.
- 37:09Speaker 3: When I've watched RVD wrestle in the past, it's like,
- 37:12Speaker 3: oh he's you know, he's a guy in his fifties
- 37:14Speaker 3: at this point. It's what it looks like.
- 37:16Speaker 2: H NUNZIOH God Bless him. Was the first time he
- 37:18Speaker 2: wrestled the match in sixteen years. I read he did
- 37:23Speaker 2: the best he could. I got a good laugh when
- 37:25Speaker 2: he did the Sign of the Cross before the finishing move.
- 37:28Speaker 2: It was nice to see Tony Mama Luke, who is
- 37:31Speaker 2: kind of like one of those like rare hidden gems
- 37:33Speaker 2: in ECW wasn't there that long. I actually had like
- 37:37Speaker 2: a better run in ROH than he did an ECW
- 37:39Speaker 2: longer run in ROH than he did an ECW. Don Marie,
- 37:42Speaker 2: I think counted three several times in the match before
- 37:45Speaker 2: the actual three.
- 37:46Speaker 3: Did you notice that, doctor try?
- 37:49Speaker 4: I think sometimes that gravity against the best of us.
- 37:51Speaker 4: It is hard to do that two and three quarter
- 37:53Speaker 4: count if you're not prepared.
- 37:55Speaker 2: For Yeah, and then I saw people shitting on and
- 37:59Speaker 2: maybe it was sarr casm. It's hard to read and
- 38:01Speaker 2: when it comes to online but shitting that they used
- 38:03Speaker 2: a fake brick. It's like, did you want me to
- 38:05Speaker 2: use a real one?
- 38:06Speaker 4: Like?
- 38:07Speaker 3: What do we what are we doing here?
- 38:08Speaker 2: I mean, we've learned from what some of the shots
- 38:12Speaker 2: that the people in ECW took, how that went. I
- 38:17Speaker 2: know Devon can't get cleared in a w ring, but
- 38:20Speaker 2: you haven't come out you bring a table like I
- 38:22Speaker 2: expect three D like not a double choke slam from
- 38:25Speaker 2: Bubba Ray and Trick Williams. Trick once again looks like
- 38:30Speaker 2: a giraffe without ice skates on ice rink at times
- 38:37Speaker 2: in the match. So, I mean, it was just like
- 38:40Speaker 2: it was what it was, And I really liked how
- 38:41Speaker 2: you said it felt like a WWEE E CW promotion
- 38:46Speaker 2: or produced event rather than a e CW produced event.
- 38:50Speaker 2: So overall it was nice, it was cool. I hope
- 38:54Speaker 2: they go back and do the ecwring again. I like
- 38:57Speaker 2: we bring the NXC brand around these nostalgia shows. I
- 39:01Speaker 2: would bring them to the Hammer's time in New York
- 39:04Speaker 2: or Manhattan Center where Raw used to be, like those
- 39:06Speaker 2: three areas that w W is considering for the future shows.
- 39:10Speaker 2: I think that would be a lot of fun. But overall,
- 39:13Speaker 2: just slightly for me, it was it was AW dot Tree.
- 39:15Speaker 3: You went with w W.
- 39:16Speaker 4: Correct, No, I was AW is a better show.
- 39:19Speaker 2: Okay, you went with a W overall, but what do
- 39:21Speaker 2: you feel the same way just slightly better or did
- 39:23Speaker 2: you think it was it wasn't.
- 39:25Speaker 4: It wasn't It wasn't much better. But just like I said,
- 39:27Speaker 4: like just on depth of continuing their storylines, a W
- 39:32Speaker 4: had the edge, like you had the stuff with you know,
- 39:35Speaker 4: Ricochet and Hobbs and the callis Family and then you
- 39:38Speaker 4: know the Learning Tree and the congomeration and then stat
- 39:41Speaker 4: Landers stuff with merce City has been like the depth
- 39:45Speaker 4: of continuing their storylines was better on AW than what
- 39:49Speaker 4: uh NXT did. By the way, should if they do
- 39:52Speaker 4: want in Atlanta can we get a w c W
- 39:56Speaker 4: throw back night or something. Or if they go to
- 39:59Speaker 4: the UH, oh the Universal Studios in Orlando, can we
- 40:03Speaker 4: get it like a TNA throwback one? Is this gonna
- 40:05Speaker 4: be like the trend? If we go to an old
- 40:07Speaker 4: building that's known for another promotion, we get throwback nights.
- 40:11Speaker 3: Well, they did the remember NXC did the building in Atlanta.
- 40:14Speaker 3: What what was that the sound stage?
- 40:17Speaker 4: Oh what the.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Center stage? They did a couple of shows there back.
- 40:22Speaker 4: In the day, but they didn't bring back any of
- 40:24Speaker 4: the w c W n W A guide, I mean
- 40:27Speaker 4: you could have had.
- 40:27Speaker 2: That was under Vince's reign. Vince never capitalized on anything
- 40:32Speaker 2: w CNW. They should have done like a throwback Nitro
- 40:35Speaker 2: once on a raw that'd be great, like.
- 40:38Speaker 4: From the from the do one from you know Atlanta,
- 40:40Speaker 4: like you know, especially if Goldberg comes back, you can
- 40:43Speaker 4: do one in the Georgia Dome or like in Atlanta
- 40:45Speaker 4: the new UH Arena. The Hawks play at UH and
- 40:49Speaker 4: then do you know throwback like you know goldbergs in
- 40:51Speaker 4: the ring and then all of a sudden, Nwong music
- 40:53Speaker 4: hits that would blow people, like blow the minds of
- 40:56Speaker 4: guys like you and me.
- 40:57Speaker 2: One of the last WA video games I bought. I
- 40:59Speaker 2: think it was two UK fourteen Doctor Trade. This is
- 41:01Speaker 2: more up up your area here of expertise. They're like
- 41:06Speaker 2: one of the main storylines was WW like returned in Takeover.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Do you remember that one?
- 41:12Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I do.
- 41:13Speaker 3: It was like Kevin.
- 41:13Speaker 2: It was like Kevin Nash. I think like Rna Anderson
- 41:16Speaker 2: was involved in it as well, and I loved it.
- 41:19Speaker 2: That was a really cool storyline and I'd be down
- 41:21Speaker 2: with that. But yeah, give us some more Nostaal Jacks
- 41:24Speaker 2: to a WW tribute show now that Vince has gone,
- 41:29Speaker 2: all right, so switching gears here. WWE has launched a
- 41:33Speaker 2: revolutionary program called the Indie Wrestling Development Program, also known
- 41:36Speaker 2: as ID program. The program is designed to provide up
- 41:40Speaker 2: and coming independent wrestlers with a pathway to a potential
- 41:43Speaker 2: career in WE. Under the program, w will provide prominent
- 41:47Speaker 2: independent wrestling schools with the WID official designation, with the
- 41:51Speaker 2: goal providing new trainees and existing talent at these select
- 41:53Speaker 2: institutions with enhanced developmental opportunities. WID will also I definity
- 41:58Speaker 2: a top independent wrestling prospects with official WID Prospect designation
- 42:03Speaker 2: and support their development journey. But providing financial opportunity, assisting
- 42:07Speaker 2: with training, mentorship and development, including access to facilities, ring training,
- 42:11Speaker 2: athletic trainers, and more.
- 42:13Speaker 3: A couple of these promotions include.
- 42:15Speaker 2: Doctor Trey Bookert's Reality of Wrestling in Houston, Codey Roads,
- 42:18Speaker 2: Diamar Factory in Atlanta, Seth Ronds, Black and Brave Academy
- 42:21Speaker 2: in Davenport, Iowa, Elite Pro Wrestling Training Center in Concord
- 42:24Speaker 2: in New Hampshire, and Knox Pro Wrestling in Los Angeles.
- 42:28Speaker 2: Gabe Suppole Scully part of those overseeing the WID program.
- 42:32Speaker 2: This is a pretty cool program, Doctor Trade. This is
- 42:34Speaker 2: something that I never thought WWE would do. Your thoughts
- 42:37Speaker 2: on this big change that is going on within World
- 42:39Speaker 2: Wrestling Entertainment.
- 42:41Speaker 4: I think it's great for a lot of the reasons.
- 42:44Speaker 4: One is, you know, for a while w B had
- 42:47Speaker 4: had put out needing. This is under Vince that you know,
- 42:49Speaker 4: they weren't looking for independent talent. They wanted just athletes
- 42:52Speaker 4: and you know, fitness models and things like that that
- 42:56Speaker 4: they could train. You know, They're like they had that
- 43:00Speaker 4: indie wrestlers had bad habits and it was hard to
- 43:02Speaker 4: break those bad habits to fit in WB. This is
- 43:06Speaker 4: great because now they're going, Hey, we do recognize that
- 43:09Speaker 4: there is a lot of talent on the independent wrestling scene,
- 43:12Speaker 4: and if we can help find those guys that have
- 43:15Speaker 4: a passion for this business and help them bring them along,
- 43:20Speaker 4: that's great. I think one of the things they're realizing
- 43:22Speaker 4: is a lot of these former college athletes don't have
- 43:26Speaker 4: a passion for wrestling, so they don't really try. I
- 43:29Speaker 4: almost I'm not knocking a lot of all of them,
- 43:32Speaker 4: but there are some like they just don't have that
- 43:34Speaker 4: passion for the business. And you're investing a lot of
- 43:37Speaker 4: time and energy and money into people that maybe don't
- 43:40Speaker 4: even like wrestling all that much. They're just doing it
- 43:43Speaker 4: for a job. If you're finding guys who are coming
- 43:45Speaker 4: up through these schools, obviously they have a passion for
- 43:49Speaker 4: this and if we can help help move them along
- 43:53Speaker 4: by financially backing them or something like that, you know,
- 43:56Speaker 4: something like that, it's good for everybody involved. It's also
- 43:59Speaker 4: good for independent rests because it throws it out there, like, hey,
- 44:01Speaker 4: that there actually is kind of a path to get
- 44:05Speaker 4: to where you want to go. There's so many guys
- 44:07Speaker 4: that get into wrestling and they never get seen or
- 44:11Speaker 4: they don't know what to do, or they take they
- 44:13Speaker 4: start following the wrong guys and guys who are super
- 44:18Speaker 4: talented and should be on a bigger platform and just
- 44:21Speaker 4: never get there. So I'm really happy about it. I
- 44:25Speaker 4: am a little surprised that there's a couple of schools
- 44:28Speaker 4: that didn't get picked, but this isn't unheard of. Like
- 44:31Speaker 4: we have Rocket City has an affiliation with Ohio Value
- 44:35Speaker 4: Wrestling and al snow like our school is certified as
- 44:39Speaker 4: an Ohio Valley Wrestling School, Certified Training Institution. I was
- 44:43Speaker 4: surprised that Ohio Valley Wrestling wasn't one that got picked.
- 44:47Speaker 4: I was surprised that the Monster Factory in New Jersey,
- 44:50Speaker 4: where so many guys have come out of, including Damian Priest,
- 44:53Speaker 4: wasn't selected. Jacob's Pritchard Academy in Tennessee where doctor Tom
- 45:00Speaker 4: and Glenn Jacobs run that school. So there's a few
- 45:02Speaker 4: schools that weren't picked. It was kind of like, oh,
- 45:05Speaker 4: Seth's got a Seth's got a school, We're gonna certify
- 45:08Speaker 4: that one. Booker T's got a school. We're gonna certify
- 45:10Speaker 4: that one. Knox Pro's run by Rakishi, Well his boys
- 45:13Speaker 4: are here, get certified. It was kind of a little
- 45:16Speaker 4: bit of nepotism in a way as to who got selected,
- 45:21Speaker 4: so to speak. But there's a lot of great schools
- 45:24Speaker 4: out there and I'm sure at some point they will
- 45:26Speaker 4: be added into the mix of you know, certified w
- 45:30Speaker 4: w i D schools.
- 45:32Speaker 2: According to WWE, they will be announcing and revealing the
- 45:35Speaker 2: first wrestler in this ID program this weekend during Booker
- 45:38Speaker 2: T's Reality of Wrestling event. So more on that as
- 45:43Speaker 2: we get some more information and get the first wrestler
- 45:47Speaker 2: under the in the books as a member of the
- 45:50Speaker 2: w i D Wrestling program now as they are now
- 45:53Speaker 2: branching out to independent wrestling, switching gears a bit here,
- 45:57Speaker 2: Doctor Trey some unfortunate new Last year was a massive
- 46:03Speaker 2: year for Ria Ripley. This year has been nothing but
- 46:06Speaker 2: injury written a year for Rio Ripley, as they ran
- 46:11Speaker 2: an angle on NXC television last week where she was
- 46:14Speaker 2: taken out on the parking lot of course by Live
- 46:16Speaker 2: Morgan and Roquel Rodriguez has a broken orbital bone.
- 46:20Speaker 3: That injury is legit. It wasn't legit from the parking
- 46:24Speaker 3: lot problem.
- 46:25Speaker 2: It was a way to cover it up, according to reports,
- 46:27Speaker 2: to believe is that Rio Ripley's injury likely happened in
- 46:30Speaker 2: a headbutt spot in when she front of Live Morgan
- 46:33Speaker 2: and Raquel Rodriguez on the October twenty first edition w RAW.
- 46:36Speaker 2: She is out for an indefinite amount of time, Doctor Trey,
- 46:40Speaker 2: This has just been kind of an unfortunate year for
- 46:42Speaker 2: Ria Ripley.
- 46:43Speaker 3: Your thoughts is one of the best is now on
- 46:45Speaker 3: the shelf for a little bit of time.
- 46:47Speaker 4: Yeah, it sucks for her. I mean, she's arguably the
- 46:50Speaker 4: best female wrestler on the planet as far as like
- 46:53Speaker 4: overall entertainer type person. It just it's reminiscent of you've
- 47:00Speaker 4: gone through this, like being a Yankees fan, being a
- 47:02Speaker 4: Packers fan. You get that player that has an awesome year,
- 47:05Speaker 4: wins the MVP, and the next year they just have
- 47:08Speaker 4: the worst luck. I dealt with that this year being
- 47:12Speaker 4: a Cubs fan. Cody Bellinger, great season last year, this
- 47:16Speaker 4: season hurt almost the entire season. It just sucks because
- 47:20Speaker 4: you know what their potential is. You know they're capable
- 47:22Speaker 4: of doing, but they just have fluke injuries the entire year.
- 47:25Speaker 4: So it also has because you know, when you're hot,
- 47:29Speaker 4: you basically burn the candle at both ends and you're
- 47:32Speaker 4: just going one hundred miles an hour and you don't
- 47:35Speaker 4: take as good of care as of your body getting
- 47:38Speaker 4: rest that it needs. But you know, orbital bone, fluke injury.
- 47:42Speaker 4: The shoulder injury was a fluke injury. It's all flucus injuries.
- 47:45Speaker 4: I will say the NXT Beatdown spot looked gruesome. They
- 47:50Speaker 4: they did a good job of selling that. She got
- 47:53Speaker 4: what I mean, the blood like that, a little bit
- 47:54Speaker 4: of blood that just they did a great job of
- 47:57Speaker 4: selling that angle because it had me buying into it
- 47:59Speaker 4: for a moment. But just sucks for Ria. It sucks
- 48:02Speaker 4: for you know, WWE, because this is your money star
- 48:06Speaker 4: and she's gonna be out for a little while. So
- 48:08Speaker 4: I think that's also why you saw the to me,
- 48:10Speaker 4: the elevation of Live Morgan into that feature spot at
- 48:14Speaker 4: Crown Jewel. Yeah.
- 48:16Speaker 2: I immediately when you were going through there, I thought
- 48:17Speaker 2: you were gonna say, Christian McCaffrey that too.
- 48:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 48:20Speaker 2: So I mean there's always that that's a great comparison.
- 48:23Speaker 2: Seeing her on the shelf is never good because she's
- 48:26Speaker 2: one of the best. So it is just one of
- 48:28Speaker 2: those years for the career of one of the best
- 48:31Speaker 2: in the business Ria Ripley, and hopefully she is back
- 48:34Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. But from what I'm gathering it
- 48:37Speaker 2: would I would assume that she's probably done from an
- 48:41Speaker 2: anwering standpoint for the rest of twenty twenty four, and
- 48:44Speaker 2: hopefully she'll be back for at least.
- 48:46Speaker 3: A Rumble in twenty twenty five.
- 48:48Speaker 2: Because I guess the good thing in this Doctor Trey
- 48:50Speaker 2: is this lived Morgan Rea Ripley feud went from something
- 48:53Speaker 2: that could be ending it let's say war Games or
- 48:56Speaker 2: maybe you know, ending at Saturday Night's main event.
- 48:59Speaker 3: Or early in the year.
- 49:01Speaker 2: I think with this injury, Live Morgan versus Ria Ripley
- 49:04Speaker 2: could definitely be a match that we see at WrestleMania now, especially.
- 49:09Speaker 4: If you have a returning Ria Ripley at the Rumble
- 49:12Speaker 4: and she wins the Rumble to cash in and live
- 49:14Speaker 4: at Wrestlemanian. So timeline wise, it works for WWE, it
- 49:18Speaker 4: just sucks for her and the company as a whole,
- 49:20Speaker 4: because I mean, she's one of the top merchandise sellers.
- 49:23Speaker 4: She's one of the nicest people too, Like everybody I
- 49:26Speaker 4: know that's had an interaction with her, like at a
- 49:28Speaker 4: autograph signing or something that She's just so likable and
- 49:31Speaker 4: so much fun to be around. It just sucks on
- 49:34Speaker 4: that end, but yeah, you can run this angle all
- 49:37Speaker 4: the way to WrestleMania now if she comes back at
- 49:39Speaker 4: the Rumble.
- 49:40Speaker 3: Trying to find some silver linings here for Ria Ripley.
- 49:43Speaker 2: And then the last thing I want to talk about
- 49:45Speaker 2: in this week's show, Doctor Trey Goldberg announced during his
- 49:47Speaker 2: appearance on the SEC Networks pregame show for college football
- 49:51Speaker 2: last weekend that he will be having this retirement match
- 49:54Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five in World Wrestling Entertainment.
- 49:57Speaker 3: In WE, he will be back for one match.
- 50:00Speaker 2: It'll be the first time he'll be wrestling since twenty
- 50:02Speaker 2: twenty two, which was in Crown Jewel.
- 50:05Speaker 3: There have been a lot of rumblings. He had some
- 50:06Speaker 3: discussions with AW. He was mad with WWE.
- 50:09Speaker 2: There was a retirement tour that was supposed to be
- 50:11Speaker 2: going I think over in I most like Israel. At
- 50:15Speaker 2: some point I felt like it was overseas that he
- 50:17Speaker 2: was going to be doing a tour. All that has
- 50:19Speaker 2: not come to fruition. He is ending it in w
- 50:23Speaker 2: WE in twenty twenty five. Everything is pointing towards a
- 50:26Speaker 2: match with gun Third. There are folks that are thinking
- 50:28Speaker 2: that this is going to be taking a place at WrestleMania.
- 50:31Speaker 2: I would love to see them do it in Atlanta, Georgia,
- 50:34Speaker 2: maybe the Georgia Dome for old time sake. He is
- 50:37Speaker 2: an enigma, doctor Trey. He is somebody that is often
- 50:40Speaker 2: debated in his time in professional wrestling. There have been
- 50:43Speaker 2: times that you and I have absolutely loved when he
- 50:45Speaker 2: is back in wrestling. There have been times that you
- 50:47Speaker 2: and I have been deathly afraid that he's becoming a
- 50:50Speaker 2: world champion during his return to professional wrestling. Your thoughts
- 50:54Speaker 2: here is Goldberg will be announce his retirement match for
- 50:56Speaker 2: twenty twenty five.
- 50:58Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean good for him. I mean to be
- 51:01Speaker 4: a wrestler and to be able to have a retirement
- 51:03Speaker 4: match and to be able to kind of go off
- 51:05Speaker 4: on your own terms. You know, it's great. And it's
- 51:08Speaker 4: funny because you know, I remember when he came back
- 51:10Speaker 4: the last time, and you saw and he came back
- 51:12Speaker 4: for the sake, you know, because his son had never
- 51:14Speaker 4: really seen him wrestle, and you got that little bit
- 51:16Speaker 4: a gauge Goldberg run. And now Gage is playing football
- 51:20Speaker 4: at Colorado for Dion Sanders. Just shows you like, like
- 51:23Speaker 4: how this whole thing plays out. So like, I'm happy
- 51:26Speaker 4: he's gonn get a shot. I would love to see him.
- 51:28Speaker 4: This is crazy, Jeff, You're You're not gonna even want
- 51:30Speaker 4: to say this. I want Goldberg to win the w
- 51:33Speaker 4: W Championship. I want him to beat Gunther. Because he wins,
- 51:38Speaker 4: he retires, they vacate the title, and we get a
- 51:42Speaker 4: tournament to crown.
- 51:43Speaker 3: A new w W champion with a tournament.
- 51:47Speaker 4: Yes, I want to see a wrestle We have not
- 51:51Speaker 4: had a WrestleMania world title tournaments. Is WrestleMania three so
- 51:57Speaker 4: it was a three or four I think it.
- 51:58Speaker 3: Was three Survivor Series ninety eight.
- 52:02Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so but WrestleMania season, if he has the
- 52:05Speaker 4: Magic Royal Rumble, wins, the title, vacates it. You have
- 52:09Speaker 4: this tournament WrestleMania, you have Night one, be the entire tournament.
- 52:14Speaker 4: There you go, and I know how much you love tournament.
- 52:17Speaker 4: So this that was an incomplete enticing of you getting
- 52:21Speaker 4: on board with Goldberg win the world title.
- 52:23Speaker 3: I can't see that happening.
- 52:27Speaker 2: I don't even know if he should defeat I mean,
- 52:29Speaker 2: everybody knows it's gonna be Gunther Part in any changes.
- 52:32Speaker 2: I don't even know if he should defeat Guntherro Doctor.
- 52:34Speaker 4: Trey Well, what if it comes out to real American?
- 52:39Speaker 3: If Goldberg comes out to Hulkogan's theme song.
- 52:42Speaker 4: Yes, I mean it's a real American against a guy
- 52:44Speaker 4: from Austria.
- 52:45Speaker 3: I mean, now you're getting be crazy, my friend, Now
- 52:47Speaker 3: you're getting crazy. I don't know. I'm happy for him.
- 52:51Speaker 2: I mean we're gonna be entering twenty twenty five with
- 52:53Speaker 2: retirement tour, not only for John Cena, but a retirement
- 52:56Speaker 2: match for Goldberg.
- 52:57Speaker 3: I mean, this is closing the book on our parts
- 53:00Speaker 3: of our childhood.
- 53:01Speaker 4: Doctor Trey Well, I mean Goldberg would be the end
- 53:04Speaker 4: of the Attitude era for us.
- 53:05Speaker 3: The w CW folks just cringed when you said that.
- 53:11Speaker 4: I know, I know, but that it's it's what it is.
- 53:13Speaker 4: It's the close. I mean that he's the He would
- 53:15Speaker 4: be the last real I don't only say active because
- 53:18Speaker 4: he hasn't wrestled in three years, but he's the last
- 53:21Speaker 4: link to that timeline really that still can compete in
- 53:24Speaker 4: the ring. Everybody else is gone. So and then Seena
- 53:29Speaker 4: is the like Sina is kind of like one of
- 53:31Speaker 4: the last people from the ruthless aggression area. You got
- 53:34Speaker 4: Orton and Mysterio and you know Edge if you guys
- 53:37Speaker 4: linger around but Sina, that'd be kind of closing the
- 53:40Speaker 4: chapter on the the focal point of the ruthless aggression era.
- 53:43Speaker 4: So we're I don't know what the next what era
- 53:45Speaker 4: we're in to attitude, ruthless aggression. I don't know what
- 53:49Speaker 4: the next era was after that.
- 53:53Speaker 3: PG era.
- 53:55Speaker 4: Run with.
- 53:55Speaker 2: I mean, there were so many start stops. This is
- 53:57Speaker 2: the new era of w WI. They tried doing that
- 53:59Speaker 2: multiple multiple times. Yeah, No, I mean, I'm happy for him.
- 54:02Speaker 2: I'm happy it's going to be under the WI and brother.
- 54:04Speaker 2: I think that's the right way to go about and
- 54:06Speaker 2: I think and I'm happy that WWE is giving him
- 54:08Speaker 2: this opportunity.
- 54:09Speaker 3: So he's a bit of an enigma. I'm a fan
- 54:12Speaker 3: of Bill Goldberg.
- 54:13Speaker 2: I'm happy that he's going out the way that he
- 54:14Speaker 2: wants because he certainly deserves that. So more on that
- 54:17Speaker 2: as we get more details for twenty twenty five. With
- 54:21Speaker 2: that said, let's get a couple plugs and spots of
- 54:23Speaker 2: the way we close up shop on this week's edition
- 54:25Speaker 2: of SRTU. You get down on the show every Thursday,
- 54:28Speaker 2: or Friday at Real Guy Radio dot com. Rustle chatting
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- 54:39Speaker 2: Franklin at The Doctor Trey and of course fel forget
- 54:42Speaker 2: to follow show on X at SRTU podcast. With that
- 54:45Speaker 2: being said, what is going on in the one for
- 54:46Speaker 2: world of dot Trey Franklin this week?
- 54:49Speaker 4: Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X
- 54:51Speaker 4: at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Facebook
- 54:54Speaker 4: and Instagram Doctor Trey Franklin. When you're on Facebook, check
- 54:57Speaker 4: out Rockets Championship Wrestling and and Championship Resident, the two
- 55:01Speaker 4: shows I work with very closely here in the state
- 55:02Speaker 4: of Alabama. On top of that, hey, go check out
- 55:06Speaker 4: your local independent wrestling show because they might become part
- 55:08Speaker 4: of the WWE I D family at some point. That
- 55:12Speaker 4: kid you see bouncing around the ring might become the
- 55:16Speaker 4: next prospect for WWE. And also, Jeff, I just realized
- 55:20Speaker 4: now I have to go home and play NCA twenty
- 55:21Speaker 4: four because I have to see if Gage Goldberg is
- 55:24Speaker 4: in the game. I forgot to look for that.
- 55:27Speaker 3: In there.
- 55:27Speaker 2: You got to go check out the depth chart, and
- 55:29Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Engage Goldberg becomes some sort of
- 55:31Speaker 2: monster on Doctor Trey's NCAA College Football twenty four would say?
- 55:36Speaker 2: Would that being said, thank you for downloading, thank you
- 55:38Speaker 2: for hanging in there with us this week. It was
- 55:41Speaker 2: a little bit of struggle for my voice.
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- 55:58Speaker 2: Troy Franklin, I am Jeff Pack. This has been the
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