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S02 , Ep29 - Party & Bullshit w the Boys 2 · The Bull Brotherhood

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  Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood podcast, where
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  we talk power, pleasure, and the art of dominance
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  we see you. Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, good
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  evening and welcome to another informative episode
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  of the Bull Brotherhood Podcast. I am the sigma
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  male himself, Brian Morgan, along with my brother
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  from another mother, the nephew himself, Socrates.
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  What's going on, dude? What's good, uncle? What's
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  good? All right, all right. And ladies and gentlemen,
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  tonight we have another very, very special podcast.
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  We have, I have several of my brothers with us
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  tonight. Coming at you, first of all, from down
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  in the Sunshine State. Our brother Demetri was
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  on all my... Y 'all love my brother, all the
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  love. Glad to be here. Brother, it's damn so
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  good to hear that voice, man. So good to hear
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  that voice. Yes, sir. That's how we're right.
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  And of course, coming at me from Bay State of
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  California, the sepia sexual one himself. My
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  dog, Pagan, what's up? What's going on, B Morgan?
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  My boy, Sock and Cheese, it's good to be with
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  y 'all. There's nothing like a B Morgan intro,
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  man. I gotta get this on my phone for the, you
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  know, when I'm voicemail. Damn. I appreciate
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  that. And ladies and gentlemen, coming at us,
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  he is new to the Brotherhood, but he is definitely
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  a damn veteran. Please welcome Trey War. to the
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  Brotherhood. What's up, dawg? Not much, Brother
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  Morgan. Brother Morgan, it's good to be around
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  all y 'all. I'm ready to chop it up. All right,
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  all right. Ladies and gentlemen, before we actually
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  started the podcast, we were discussing something,
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  and I think we're going to continue discussing
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  it. I'm going to turn it over to Trey War, and
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  he's going to feed you guys in on what's going
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  on. And we wanted to hear from everybody from
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  the Brotherhood tonight. So Trey, we'll go ahead
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  and continue that. All right. So basically, I
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  was discussing a little bit of a hiccup I had
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  in my ethically non -monotonous primary relationship
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  with my main lady. I'm stepping back into the
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  cuckold game after a 20 -year hiatus. And so
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  my first couple, my inaugural return couple...
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  Setting something up where they're coming to
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  town or literally flying in as we are recording
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  this and the buildup the seduction the conversation
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  the communication the planning all of that, you
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  know from in the pump with the the wife and Involving
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  the cuck so he doesn't feel left out Smoothing
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  all the edges. It takes time. It takes attention.
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  It takes energy effort and I discovered my woman
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  never felt threatened by a single female. Single
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  women can come and go. I could bang out a single
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  chick three days a week in my spot, and she didn't
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  feel threatened. But suddenly, with this couple,
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  she's looking at me sideways like, no, your energy
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  has shifted. You invest in way too much. I thought
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  this was just gonna be a, you know, a wham, bam,
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  slam, and you out. And instead... You're spending
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  three days with them. You're planning dates.
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  You're, you know, discussing these romantic scenarios.
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  And it made me think about relationship threat
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  models. This is something I've talked about.
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  There are a lot of different threat models, but
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  primarily externally, meaning outside the relationship,
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  there are only three external threat models.
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  One is triangulation. That's you and your partner
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  are having beef. and a third person gets included
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  on their side or probably on your side. But regardless,
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  one of you has to battle two people instead of
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  just one. So that's triangulation. The other
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  two are typically male and female, the male being
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  replacement, the idea that another man takes
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  my spot, another man takes possession of that
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  which should be mine. And for women, it's primarily
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  diversion. Women, I mean, we've all experienced
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  this. It isn't that you fucked another woman
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  that pissed her off. It's that you was talking
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  to the bitch in the first place, that you were
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  paying her any attention, that you was kiki -ing
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  on the phone with her, that you might have confided
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  in her. That's what sets her off. So it isn't
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  to say that men, we don't have that diversion,
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  jealousy, but it's typically women that have
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  it. men, we have the replacement. So I'm going
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  through all of this trying to navigate and realizing
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  this is something that briefly I was a Muslim.
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  And a lot of people think that Muslim men want
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  multiple wives. But one of the things that we
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  learn is you can only have multiple wives if
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  you can give each wife equal. You got to give
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  her a house. She wants kids. She wants a car.
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  If you can't afford to give her the same thing
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  that you give another woman, you can't have more
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  than one. And I realized the energy I was put
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  into this couple, I wasn't putting the same level
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  of energy into my woman as of late. So I caused
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  my problem. So that's kind of what we were talking
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  about. And Demetri, you said that you understood
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  how his girl was feeling. You were saying something
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  about that. Well, yeah, you know, he's just hit
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  around the head with feelings. You know, you
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  got to realize you're dealing with a female,
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  you're also dealing with the emotionals as well.
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  Now, the situation may be, this is your lady.
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  Has she witnessed you have this conversation
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  and put all this energy within that couple? Of
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  course, you know, the screws don't get turning.
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  and she's hearing that you are giving somebody
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  what she's not getting, or you're giving this
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  couple what she's getting. Again, if she's gonna
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  be, if she's gonna, she got to feel like she's
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  the only one or the main one, but now you're
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  sharing something that you usually would give
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  to her. The other problem that may be is she
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  now knows that she about to spend time with this
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  couple. So you're not gonna just go and fuck.
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  You're about to do what they call the dwarfing
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  experience. You spend three days with your three
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  days or whatever the number may be with this
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  couple. Let's go take some time away from her.
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  And trust me, I don't give a fuck about your
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  money. I don't give a fuck how big your house
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  is. I don't give a fuck how big that gift is.
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  The moment you take time away from your lady,
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  you are up. That's all, if you come down to the
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  basis of it, all women want time. Time is priceless.
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  Time is everything to them. And you are now giving
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  that time to somebody else or you're now sharing
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  that time. And that's going to be a problem,
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  but that can be fixed and solved. All you got
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  to do is you got to sit her down and not only
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  explain to her, you have to paint this picture
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  out to her. to where she can get out of her feelings
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  and now see things in my logical manner. Trust
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  me, there's nothing easier about this. Trust
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  me, I've been there. But remember, you are now
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  giving, you're taking away time from her, or
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  you're sharing that time that she usually get.
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  This is your queen, or she may think she's the
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  queen, or know she's the queen, but now she has
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  to share that. So that may be some situations
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  that you may be running into her. with her, and
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  I hate to say it, but your words would not do
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  right now. It's gonna take your action. So once
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  three days boyfriend experience is over, trust
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  me, you walked into a dog house if you don't
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  fix it before that situation come aboard. Fix
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  before it happen, but it's gonna take some time.
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  Yeah. Trent, is the amount of time the boyfriend
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  weekend type thing? Is that also new in this?
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  That's another factor that's new? Yeah, it's
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  new. I've tried to explain to her. We've been
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  discussing this for years, and so now it's finally
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  coming to fruition. In fact, I sought the Brotherhood
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  out as part of this process of my return. So
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  she's been along and watched me seek the Brotherhood
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  out. It's been by my side as I've connected with
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  the Brotherhood. And she knows all the elements,
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  but now it's the actual application. and she's
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  going whoa I thought she was gonna be hitting
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  this couple off like you hit off these single
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  chicks I didn't realize they're flying in and
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  because they're flying in they want more than
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  just you coming by the hotel room they want more
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  than just a couple of hours you know you play
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  in pipe and then gone they want to go out to
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  dinner they want to go dancing they want to go
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  for a walk and talk and that's more than I thought
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  I'm like, but I told you that's what was gonna
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  happen. It doesn't matter though. It doesn't
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  matter, brother. Just like Dee said, you are
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  giving them the boyfriend experience. You're
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  giving them everything in one, two or three day
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  time period. And that, I don't care if you really
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  did discuss it or how it came out of your mouth
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  to your lady, until, you know, She's not. She
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  can't get with that. She can't. Believe me. I'm
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  in a throuple, and my lady, she can't get. Let
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  me kiss another damn woman. And she's standing
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  there. I mean, I'll just tell you. I'm not ashamed
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  to tell you. You know, I speak the damn truth.
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  Let me kiss another woman. She's standing right
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  there. And she said that tongue stayed in the
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  mouth a little bit too long or something. Dude,
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  women can accept, they can accept that men are
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  hunters, that's what we are, we hunt shit, alright,
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  we hunt. They can accept us going in for a kill,
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  for a meal, okay? But that meal doesn't need
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  to be a damn full course, alright? It doesn't.
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  You can go in, get a nibble and get out, get
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  a nibble and get out. You can fuck and then come
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  back, you know, come back. But... Don't give
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  them, don't, hell no, don't give the whole boyfriend
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  experience, bro, all right? If they think for
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  one, that mean one, that main one, that you have
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  allowed to get, you know, inside and she's your,
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  considered your girl, all right, regardless of
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  what the situation is, throuple, now non -throuple
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  or whatever, when she knows that she's the one
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  and then she feels like somebody else is trying
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  to enter that, enter that damn gate, oh brother,
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  I'm telling you. The only thing that I can suggest
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  you do my friend. You're gonna do what you got
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  to do tonight All right, I know that but don't
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  time you get back to the house You you and you
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  and the lady really need to sit down because
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  see I didn't know that you it's been 20 years
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  That you've been out of the cook out of the couple
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  couple games, correct? Correct. It's been 20
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  years. Now you and your lady have been together.
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  How long may I ask? Well, so we've known each
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  other for 20 years. We've been romantically linked
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  for 10 years, and we've been actually dating
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  like exclusively. Oh boy, I shouldn't say exclusively.
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  We've been intentionally dating for two years.
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  So she knows you like a book. Exactly. She knows
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  everything about me. There's no secret from this.
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  And Trent, how much of that has been with you
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  guys enjoying other people while you're in a
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  relationship? But that's the thing. The whole,
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  the entirety of these two years have been ethically
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  non -monogamous. but it's been long distance.
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  I'm doing my thing where I'm at, she's you all
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  the, she's at. Okay, okay. Yeah. And so, but
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  we always, so my girl is deep in that, like this
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  is where I learned the word. She's deep into
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  compersion. She is pleased when I get pleasure
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  and satisfaction elsewhere, as long as she knows
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  what's going on. And so I, maintaining that transparency
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  because I'm all about transparency not honesty.
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  Honesty is you answer the question truthfully
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  when asked. Transparency is you volunteer information
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  in advance so they never even get a chance to
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  ask the question. I'm always over sharing with
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  her but it's worked in our relationship. Here
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  we come with this couples thing and she's still
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  thinking that with couples oh you just banging
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  the wife like a single chick. And I'm like, well,
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  no, you kind of got to include the husband and
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  the conversations and make him comfortable. So
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  she realized I'm dating two people in one relationship.
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  Trent, let me add, can I step in here? I want
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  to add a little bit of science to everybody.
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  Everything everybody's saying is just spot on.
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  I want to add a little bit of science to it.
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  So in studying true differences between men and
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  women, one of the things is that we're talking
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  about is We remember words, right? So you're
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  like, I told you, right? And Dee and Brian Morgan
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  say, them words don't mean shit. Here's why.
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  For women, they register how they felt about
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  the moment. They might have feelings on top of
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  feelings, right? For men, we register the caption
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  we put on the feeling. So one of the things that
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  might help you is You told her back in the day,
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  this is what's gonna happen. I did that a lot
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  to Siren. So I'll tell Siren, look, I've been
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  in the game for a long time. I just wasn't in
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  the lifestyle game. I was like, some of the nastiest
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  shit I've done in the lifestyle, I already did
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  vanilla style. So I would tell her, this is gonna
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  happen. I'll talk to my boys, especially Brian
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  Morgan. When he met me, he was like, oh brother,
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  you got it. You just gotta do this. This is gonna
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  happen. That's gonna happen. I would share it
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  with Siren. it would happen, and then she flipped
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  out. Well I told you, she's not registering those
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  words. She's registering the story she put behind
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  the feelings when you said it. And back then,
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  when she tells that story, she tells the story,
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  and this is all scientifically based process,
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  you can look it up in the research. She has a
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  feeling, we put captions, they put story. Here's
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  the story she said. My mature self can handle
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  that. According to the rules, I'm supposed to
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  handle that. According to what is supposed to
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  be going on in our agreement, I can handle that.
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  Okay, the best thing to do is recap right before
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  you execute. Now between the time you said it
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  and the time you executed on it, a bunch of emotions
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  might have changed, some she's seeing you put
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  the efforts in, now her emotions have changed.
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  Hey, baby, you remember that conversation we
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  were talking about? Well, I just happened to
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  have this one girl or one of this couple look
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  me up, and they're looking for this and they're
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  looking for that. We discussed that, how you
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  feel about that now. Boom, now she's going to
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  tell what? The story of where she's at now. And
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  the story of where she at is, oh shoot, this
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  brother's a lot more important to me than I thought.
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  And we live in different time zones, we're in
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  different states. His time is valuable to me.
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  Then she comes out and she starts reacting to
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  the story she created for the emotion she had
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  in the moment and not what she told you before,
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  because back then, y 'all was cool, you was kiki
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  -ing, you was doing your thing, and she was in
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  the state of, well, at my best self, this is
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  the decision I make. But when she's in the moment,
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  mm -mm. And then Demetri talked about time. Women
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  register their time with energy and men register
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  their time with effort. Energy and effort is
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  different for us. For us, it's what's the effort
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  I'm gonna put in for this? And we're usually
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  not thinking about the energy. Women do think
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  about the energy, and that's what Demetri was
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  talking about. When you're talking about time,
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  right? It's energy and attention. Because my
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  wife, I can spend all kind of time with her because
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  we have a business together, but she has certain
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  time where my attention is away from the hose,
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  business, work, whatever we're doing. and on
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  her. So some women just need, like Demetri said,
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  time, just be in their presence. Other women
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  need time and attention, right? Because if you're
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  just watching a football game, that don't count.
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  So for you, you telling her what's up, you telling
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  her what's gonna happen, she's agreeing, but
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  we've had this conversation before on something
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  else. She's agreeing in the moment because that's
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  her best self. trust and believe I'm taking all
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  this in from from every angle because again like
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  we two agreements were made after this one any
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  future couples she wants to be involved from
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  the start this couple found me individually for
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  or I hate that word individually this couple
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  found me separately first and then I brought
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  her in later so she felt like she was playing
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  catch -up and that she was the odd man out we're
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  going on a swindler's cruise here next month
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  and We were talking to two couples now and she's
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  been involved from the start and she's Apparently
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  she's all good to go and I let her leave those
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  conversations So I know she's invested and it's
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  not me, you know leading with my energy but the
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  second thing the second agreement was the caveat
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  I Cannot spend the night with this couple. Mmm.
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  There is no sleepovers with this couple. And
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  I'm fine with that, because I'm a bit of an introvert,
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  and I like my solitude. But of course, the couple's
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  already talking about, man, you know, we kind
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  of was hoping she get to wake up with you, you
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  know, and have a little morning session, or she'd
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  like to fall asleep in your arms after you done
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  did what you don't do. And my woman is like,
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  nah, the bitch Kate had that. Yep. Yeah, she
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  that's best. It's sacred, but now I really don't
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  want to hinder you with some negativity with
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  this because there's a light at the end of this
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  tunnel or silver lining. You have to have your
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  lady look forward reclaiming you. I mean, you
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  got to use some very, very powerful words and
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  you have to put those powerful words with emotions
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  and actions. And you just got to let her, well,
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  yeah, she will have to reclaim you. She will
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  have to just completely devour you from this
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  couple you spent time with. Now, my advice, I'm
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  giving you guide codes and we put them on the
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  their pockets. My thing would be, When you go
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  to her house, dude, brother, take a shower in
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  a soap that she prefers. Don't go over there
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  with an odd stench on you. I don't give a fuck
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  about some new cologne you just bought. In her
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  head, you bought that cologne for that couple.
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  I don't give a damn how good it smells. Go over
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  there with a familiar clothing, familiar energies,
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  familiar scent, and just know that now it's time
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  for her to claim you, reclaim you back. and not
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  only just reclaim you, also have those aftercare
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  moments. Have that open conversation. And if
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  you have so many reserves in the tank, do that
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  reclaiming all over again. It has to be that
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  very, very, very powerful, intimate moment that
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  you're gonna have to get her back to all equal
• 22:52
  grounds. But then again, I do believe that she
• 22:56
  will come around. because she also got to check
• 22:58
  her ego because she know you're going to do this
• 23:01
  regardless because you committed to it. Once
• 23:04
  she get pissed off, she still know you committed
• 23:06
  to it. So you're going to follow through because
• 23:08
  you don't want to break a promise that these
• 23:10
  people that know got set up the plans you got
• 23:13
  you made. But to her, again, it's the time, brother.
• 23:20
  It's not only that, like I said, you take a time
• 23:22
  from her, you sharing that time. And she see
• 23:26
  now that this is okay. This is three days. This
• 23:31
  is going to be kind of like intimate time and
• 23:33
  attention away from her. You know, trust me.
• 23:38
  You're going to take a check in, and hey baby,
• 23:40
  hope you doing well, blah, blah, blah. You'll
• 23:43
  get the mm -hmm or okay. Don't take it personal
• 23:49
  and it's just her going through her emotions
• 23:52
  and she going out. This is her cheek checking
• 23:55
  her ego moment. She's still pissed off, but she
• 23:57
  be coming around. She got her to look forward
• 24:01
  to the aftercare and the reclaim. And then, you
• 24:05
  know, full transparency. One, she's already let
• 24:09
  me know that when she gets here next weekend,
• 24:12
  she's reclaiming everything. Me, my space, everything.
• 24:19
  So that's number one. But then, the number two,
• 24:23
  the number two thing is, oh yeah, tonight, her
• 24:26
  favorite two. Choo Toy is coming over to her.
• 24:29
  She was about to possibly end things with her
• 24:32
  favorite Choo Toy. But tonight she's like, no,
• 24:35
  I'm going to delay that. I'm going to blow my
• 24:38
  back out while you're doing what you're doing.
• 24:39
  I'm like, damn. Cool CD. Henry about it. Yeah,
• 24:42
  she's sending you a message. Yeah. Hey, y 'all.
• 24:46
  The infamous Michael C is on. What's up, bro?
• 24:49
  You in there? Yeah, can y 'all hear me? We can
• 24:53
  hear you, sir. What up? Welcome to the show.
• 24:56
  What's good? Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Yeah.
• 25:00
  Hey, Trey. Go ahead. I'm curious. Has your lady,
• 25:07
  as your main lady, ever watched you fuck with
• 25:11
  another couple? Like, fight? Has that happened?
• 25:15
  There it is. No, she's never. And I told her
• 25:18
  back when she took me to a party, and I told
• 25:21
  her that, I'm about to see you. Yes. It's like
• 25:24
  I told her, I'm about to see you doing what you
• 25:26
  do. And I'm trying to tell you, when I do what
• 25:29
  I do, when you see me do what I do, you're gonna
• 25:31
  have the same things that I'm having right now.
• 25:35
  At that order. You need to make that happen.
• 25:38
  You need to make that happen, okay? This is not
• 25:42
  gonna happen tonight. You need to make that happen
• 25:45
  because nothing is more exciting. Than to have
• 25:50
  a couple you you got that wife that husband is
• 25:54
  over there on the side of the bed watching and
• 25:56
  shit and you look to your left or your right
• 25:59
  and your knees over there and shit with about
• 26:01
  two or three fingers in her pussy and No, you
• 26:04
  know, you fucking you fucking the hell out a
• 26:07
  damn wife, but your girl Knows that my man is
• 26:12
  really fucking me right now Yeah, because the
• 26:16
  way that I'm looking at her, you know what I'm
• 26:17
  saying, right? Right. That needs to happen. And
• 26:21
  if that happens once or twice, we'll never have
• 26:24
  this conversation again. I got you. So basically,
• 26:29
  what you're telling me is on this cruise that
• 26:31
  we go on, I got to make this happen because that's
• 26:33
  my first opportunity. I was just about to say,
• 26:34
  your cruise, every piece of ass that you get,
• 26:39
  every fucking couple that you fuck with, it needs
• 26:43
  to be, she's going to watch. She's going to watch.
• 26:47
  I'm tellin' ya, sir. I'm fuckin' tellin' you.
• 26:51
  And the shit can be so fuckin' exciting as to
• 26:53
  after you get finished with your damn couple,
• 26:55
  if they're in your damn room, hell, make the
• 26:58
  fuckin' couple stay while you fuckin' reclaim
• 27:00
  your damn lady. Gotcha. You make that shit as
• 27:05
  fuckin' exciting and nasty as the goddamn possible,
• 27:08
  the two of you as a couple, all right? That's
• 27:12
  one of the things. That that's one of the things
• 27:15
  that that might that my current my my Lindsay
• 27:17
  has a problem with a splash mocha Mm -hmm. All
• 27:21
  right. She wants she she she knows I'm gonna
• 27:24
  fuck but she wants to damn be in the room She
• 27:28
  wants to watch it said daddy I love watching
• 27:30
  you fuck somebody because I know you're really
• 27:32
  fucking me Especially when I'm right there on
• 27:34
  the bed besides you looking at you you reach
• 27:37
  over and you touch me, you know, you put your
• 27:39
  fingers in me, but you fucking the damn wife.
• 27:42
  That shit is exciting as hell. And you'll never
• 27:44
  have another problem with that shit again, I
• 27:47
  guarantee you. So just one thought I wanted,
• 27:51
  like after listening to all you guys, one thought
• 27:54
  I had Trent, there was some advice on how to
• 27:58
  clean this up after your three days, you know,
• 28:01
  how to come back in and repair any damage. There
• 28:07
  might be a way to mitigate some of that damage
• 28:09
  that you're coming in. So when you do your FEMA
• 28:11
  thing after the hurricane You don't have as many
• 28:20
  fucking two -by -fours to pick up you don't say
• 28:23
  It's it might be valuable to you Before you I
• 28:29
  don't care if it's as you're driving to that
• 28:31
  thing because this couples arrive in today And
• 28:33
  I know you don't have a time even if you have
• 28:36
  to leave a voice message for your girl. But before
• 28:40
  you meet that couple, you say to her, I have
• 28:44
  been thinking about this. In fact, I spent a
• 28:48
  half an hour talking to some brothers about what
• 28:51
  I could be do better, different, blah, blah,
• 28:54
  blah, showing her that this is on your mind,
• 28:57
  that you are, you even admitted to us, like,
• 29:00
  I haven't been taking care of her like I should
• 29:02
  if I'm gonna do this. You said that in so many
• 29:05
  words. As long as you do that before, you're
• 29:09
  going to walk into much less of a disaster, I
• 29:12
  would think, on the B side of this. When you
• 29:15
  acknowledge, I get it. And I'm going to get more
• 29:18
  when we talk about this afterwards. I think that
• 29:22
  that might be helpful as opposed to just going
• 29:24
  off on this thing and then trying to repair after
• 29:26
  only. That's just my personal thought. And from
• 29:29
  my experience, it was helpful. if that's helpful
• 29:34
  to you. I have a hot topic off of this if y 'all
• 29:37
  wanna pivot. Well, let's catch Mike up, y 'all.
• 29:42
  I don't know if Trey or B wants to catch Mike
• 29:46
  up and get him in there or what. Well, you know,
• 29:50
  if we're gonna pivot - Look, don't worry about
• 29:52
  catching me up. Just keep going. It's like, don't
• 29:54
  y 'all jump in? All right, bet. Yeah, yeah. And
• 29:56
  in fact - Just to pick up the rhythm of what's
• 29:58
  going on. That's exactly what I was going for,
• 30:01
  Socrates. It's like, if we pivot to some - just
• 30:03
  said, Mike can be on the ground floor of like
• 30:06
  a different topic. Bad, bad. Go ahead. My bad.
• 30:09
  Compersion. Yeah, yeah. Compersion. Okay. Now,
• 30:13
  I can, I don't, we always make these jokes about
• 30:17
  how none of us want to take a compliment. And
• 30:18
  we always so humble. And this is where I'm gonna,
• 30:23
  I'm gonna give Trent the wrong impression about
• 30:24
  me, because I'm gonna brag about something that
• 30:26
  I've damn near mastered. Compersion comes easy
• 30:32
  to me before I was even in the lifestyle. So
• 30:35
  I'll throw out that caveat. Some of us are just
• 30:38
  built that way and I'm not going to act like
• 30:41
  it's easy for everybody. So now that I'm in the
• 30:43
  lifestyle, I'm like, say less. I love it. Compersion
• 30:47
  is just naturally where I come from. It's an
• 30:49
  outlier for me to get jealous. or to be even
• 30:53
  more accurate, to center myself, which I think
• 30:56
  the lack of compersion is, is when you have to
• 30:59
  center yourself about somebody else's experience.
• 31:03
  At some point, you have to go, what about me?
• 31:06
  What am I getting? What does that compare to
• 31:09
  me? All that me, me, I, I is the opposite of
• 31:13
  compersion. So when I hear Trent's talking about
• 31:17
  his girl, he's like, she's very good with compersion.
• 31:20
  I'm gonna be honest, and this is no shade on
• 31:22
  especially people I haven't met, but as a very
• 31:26
  compulsive person, I go, are you though? When
• 31:30
  I hear this scenario, I go, that's not entirely
• 31:35
  compulsive. You are going compared to me, I don't
• 31:40
  like how much time this person gets, whatever.
• 31:42
  Now, on the other hand, I get that that's a human
• 31:45
  thing, and I understand that that's not something
• 31:48
  that's a good look. You got to take care of your
• 31:50
  girl at home. I've been a girl for over 25 years
• 31:54
  and the lifestyle half of that. I've gone through
• 31:57
  many phases of this, but I will say like be Morgan.
• 32:01
  I believe it's like claim train own is one of
• 32:05
  your mottos. One of the things I train my women
• 32:09
  about is don't center yourself with my other
• 32:13
  experiences. Don't pull back. My enjoyment of
• 32:18
  something because you need it for your ego for
• 32:20
  me to have less fun that Doesn't make sense to
• 32:26
  me and I frankly don't put up with it for long
• 32:28
  So I know that's a hot topic. I know that's a
• 32:31
  very You know divisive point of view, but you
• 32:35
  know, we on this to entertain as well So I'm
• 32:38
  just throwing that out there that some of what
• 32:40
  I hear like for instance even being working again
• 32:42
  I don't know your situation. I'm just telling
• 32:44
  you what I hear as a compulsive person, it's
• 32:48
  like, oh, I want to be there when you're with
• 32:50
  that woman, because when you're fucking her,
• 32:52
  you're fucking me. And that might be true. But
• 32:55
  for me, I'd be like, no, I'm not. I'm fucking
• 32:58
  her. Hey, I don't get a say to say to center
• 33:05
  my girl every time I can have experiences. But
• 33:09
  you're right, Trent. I got to come home and take
• 33:11
  care of my girl, too. So anyway, I just wanted
• 33:14
  to throw that out there. I know that that might
• 33:15
  be a hot topic, but I wanna hear some, you know,
• 33:18
  opposing viewpoints. Nah, I know for me personally,
• 33:23
  because I came in at the tail end, so I didn't
• 33:25
  really, you know, really get to peak what was
• 33:29
  going on. But hearing my brother Pagan's response
• 33:33
  to it, I kind of had the same feeling, like when
• 33:36
  y 'all was talking about it, and y 'all was like...
• 33:39
  You know, I know you're fucking me while you're
• 33:41
  fucking her. I was kind of like taking where
• 33:42
  my mind I'm like, no, I'm not lovely You need
• 33:47
  to be like I guess to kind of jump on what pagan
• 33:49
  said like when it's real compersion like You
• 33:53
  need to be able to enjoy me having a good time
• 33:55
  even if it ain't got absolutely nothing to do
• 33:57
  with you You're saying just like I can enjoy
• 34:00
  myself when I'm watching you. I can be sitting
• 34:03
  there on the couch I can be peep the window.
• 34:05
  I can be looking through looking through the
• 34:07
  people like I don't even necessarily need you
• 34:11
  to acknowledge me when you're playing because
• 34:14
  I'm just taking it all in so I know for me personally
• 34:18
  I would be very careful about tying my experiences
• 34:24
  with other women and making her feel automatically
• 34:28
  included. Now there may be instances where she
• 34:31
  may be watching and I might say you know what
• 34:34
  I want your energy right now and I call her over
• 34:37
  to me to feed me some of her energy, but I don't
• 34:41
  want her to think that that's always a given
• 34:44
  or that's always on the menu, if that makes sense.
• 34:48
  No, it's valid. It's valid. I hear what you're
• 34:51
  saying. Hold up, Trey. Let me jump back in and
• 34:54
  shit, because it seems it sounds like what I
• 34:57
  said was taken like in another, you know, text.
• 35:01
  All right. Yes, I'm laying down with a damn wife.
• 35:06
  And yes, I am fucking her, all right? My lady,
• 35:11
  though, she's looking at me and I'm looking at
• 35:14
  her. This is when I'm looking at her while I'm
• 35:17
  fucking this chick, all right? And that gives
• 35:20
  her the impression she feels as if, okay, he's
• 35:24
  with me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, hell,
• 35:27
  I know what the fuck I'm doing. I know damn well
• 35:29
  I'm laying dick to the wife. Okay, but... It's
• 35:34
  just a feeling that it makes her feel good, I
• 35:37
  guess. You know what I mean? That I am, you know,
• 35:40
  looking at her or something like that, or maybe
• 35:42
  stroking her, playing with her pussy, whatever.
• 35:45
  That's all, nothing more than that. Is that like
• 35:47
  another way of getting in her head while you're
• 35:50
  fucking the other girl? Exactly, yeah. Thank
• 35:52
  you, nephew. Thank you, nephew. That is it. That's
• 35:56
  exactly what it is. Yeah, I'm gonna straight
• 35:59
  up and say I did misunderstand, because I was
• 36:01
  like... I'll be like, look, I fuck different
• 36:04
  women, especially because they're not my wife.
• 36:07
  Like, I'm not thinking about you. You know what
• 36:11
  I mean? But now that makes sense what everybody's
• 36:13
  saying, you know? Exactly. That's the Jedi mind
• 36:18
  trick. Maybe others don't understand it, but
• 36:21
  you know, that's for me to understand, not everybody
• 36:24
  else here. Oh yeah, and all of this stuff, the
• 36:28
  whole thing I'm really trying to navigate most
• 36:30
  is making sure she doesn't feel threatened, and
• 36:37
  also trying to communicate with her at the same
• 36:39
  time. I'm the type of person, I'm humble enough,
• 36:42
  like when I call her on the carpet on something,
• 36:45
  before I'm done, I even finish by saying, okay,
• 36:48
  if I've done anything similar and I've got a
• 36:51
  blind spot, point it out to me, because I can,
• 36:54
  you know, you can tell me when I'm, if I'm being
• 36:57
  a hypocrite right now, and she often will...
• 36:59
  point it out and I'm like, okay, I will own,
• 37:01
  I'll take a look at that. I will chew on it.
• 37:03
  So I'm not high and mighty on it, but the thing
• 37:07
  that bothers me so much about her feeling some
• 37:10
  type of way about this couple is I'm going, the
• 37:13
  reason why I'm pivoting back to couples is because
• 37:17
  of all the difficulty I've had with these single
• 37:19
  women. I'm not going to these couples for an
• 37:23
  ego boost. I'm not going to these couples because
• 37:26
  I'm trying to start some shit. I'm going to the
• 37:28
  couples because these wives have to go back home
• 37:31
  to their husbands. These single women, if I give
• 37:34
  taste of that boyfriend energy, now they don't
• 37:37
  want to stay in their lane, even though they
• 37:39
  know you're the primary. So this is supposed
• 37:42
  to make things easier, but not making it easier
• 37:45
  if you're more jealous of the couples than you
• 37:47
  were of the single women. Trey, if I can jump
• 37:51
  in here and say, I had an experience with Michael
• 37:56
  that really pointed out something that I thought
• 37:59
  was powerful. And then it's also in the book
• 38:03
  where you're reading. I recommend everybody read
• 38:05
  The Way of the Superior Man by David Data, one
• 38:10
  of the best books on interacting with women.
• 38:14
  But - And you know I'm listening to it right
• 38:15
  now. Yeah, so one of the things I learned, and
• 38:18
  I did not understand it, honestly, until I saw
• 38:21
  Michael C do it. So we had a situation, not to
• 38:24
  get into many details, a business situation where
• 38:27
  another business partner had an emotional breakdown.
• 38:32
  And this person was expressing themselves in
• 38:36
  the way that they felt. And if you compare it
• 38:40
  to what I'll say, shared reality, her reaction
• 38:44
  did not match the shared reality of what happened.
• 38:48
  But Michael sat there, number one, calm as fuck.
• 38:53
  Number two, validated her feelings. And number
• 38:56
  three, the woman, most of her ire was towards
• 39:00
  Michael. And so what I asked him about later
• 39:06
  is he says, look, man, women are gonna have every
• 39:10
  feeling there is. The difference is that it's
• 39:16
  how you respond to it. So in what David Day is
• 39:20
  talking about is remember, I don't know if you've
• 39:21
  gotten to a point in the book, where there's
• 39:23
  this point where the guy commits to something,
• 39:27
  and then the woman actually tries to entice him
• 39:29
  to break the commitment. He breaks the commitment
• 39:32
  for her, and then she calls him on the table,
• 39:36
  right? And you're like, what the fuck? You even
• 39:38
  caused the situation. Are you feeling this way
• 39:39
  and that way, and I'm doing it for you? No, she
• 39:43
  wants you to guide her through every emotion
• 39:46
  there is. If she's mad, she wants you to respond.
• 39:49
  in the proper way as a dominant male who's leading
• 39:53
  the situation. If she's going through a cycle,
• 39:56
  she needs you to understand that. If she's after
• 40:00
  you for dumb emotional reasons, the way you respond
• 40:04
  with calmness, with understanding, validating
• 40:07
  her feelings, sternness, leadership, it won't
• 40:11
  matter, bruh. If you fix this problem and you
• 40:14
  balling out of control, you do everything right
• 40:17
  with her. she'll make up some shit to complain
• 40:19
  about. Why? Because in that book, she needs to
• 40:23
  feel your leadership. She needs to feel it. Sometimes
• 40:27
  the words ain't gonna do it. She needs to feel
• 40:29
  you dicking her down. She needs to feel you standing
• 40:32
  up for her. She needs to feel you managing her
• 40:34
  when she's at her worst and managing her when
• 40:37
  she's at her best. Even when she's attacking
• 40:40
  you and it has nothing to do with reality, the
• 40:43
  way you respond to her, That's what she's looking
• 40:47
  for. So you can get your shit, right? You can
• 40:49
  handle this perfectly She'll find something else
• 40:52
  you ain't doing right, but it's how you respond
• 40:55
  to her. That's gonna guide her through the whole
• 40:58
  process That's the whole thing. So get used to
• 41:01
  her complaining because you dope as fuck get
• 41:03
  used to her having these emotions because I'm
• 41:08
  watching you I'm seeing you where I was when
• 41:10
  I first came in this squad and the questions
• 41:12
  I had and then where I'm at now And I'm like,
• 41:15
  oh, I can see what Uncle Unc was saying when
• 41:18
  he first met me. This is what you're gonna run
• 41:19
  into. Well, that's gonna be another challenge
• 41:22
  for her. You're gonna tell her, I told you, she's
• 41:25
  gonna react a different way. Why? Because they're
• 41:27
  just emotions. She loves you and she's gonna
• 41:29
  be emotional about every process. So now just
• 41:32
  manage the wave. Get on the board and ride that
• 41:34
  motherfucker and shred it up and do it the right
• 41:37
  way while you're riding that emotion in and out.
• 41:42
  I hear you. I hear you. And gentlemen, I'm saying
• 41:47
  where... Mr. Mocha has chimed in. What up, bros?
• 41:57
  What's going on? Listen, I just came in. Dark
• 42:03
  Game On! Hollywood! Uh -oh. Look like we got
• 42:11
  the whole squad on tonight. Yeah, yeah, we do
• 42:14
  now. Can y 'all hear me? Yes, we do. Good, good.
• 42:23
  P, I ain't heard your voice in a long time, man.
• 42:25
  Man, that's your phone. I ain't trying to hear
• 42:27
  this. All right, listen, I know it is, but I'ma
• 42:30
  still say it. It's good to hear. Yeah, you know
• 42:32
  what you're hearing, dude? It's finally you and
• 42:35
  not me. That's all. I'm just reveling. It's always
• 42:40
  me. I'm just happy it's not me this time, bruh.
• 42:43
  I'm good, man. I'm good. So what's the topic,
• 42:46
  man? I hear some stuff happening over here. What's
• 42:47
  the topic? Well, we just wrapped one up, kind
• 42:51
  of. You know, we can, we can pivot, we can stay
• 42:55
  in that if y 'all want. No, no, listen, pivot.
• 42:57
  I'll jump in wherever I fit in. But, yeah, thank
• 43:01
  y 'all for, like, keeping in about the compersion
• 43:03
  aspect. B. Morgan, you clarified more what you're
• 43:06
  talking about. And I know I can speak for Michael,
• 43:08
  too. It's like, we totally get the version where
• 43:11
  you bring the other, your partner into the scenario
• 43:15
  with the other couple. It's not like that's foreign
• 43:16
  to us. We do it all the time. Michael, I know,
• 43:19
  does it. We've, you know, we've talked about
• 43:21
  that many times. It's just an interesting thing
• 43:24
  to me about the limits of compersion, the edges
• 43:28
  of it. In the perfect world, which we don't live
• 43:30
  in, compersion is limitless. It's just, I'm happy
• 43:33
  you're happy. I have no further questions. But
• 43:35
  then the human component comes in to various
• 43:37
  degrees and your emotions come in. And frankly,
• 43:40
  I think a big component is ego. Ego is the poison
• 43:44
  to compersion, in my opinion. Because you can
• 43:47
  call it jealousy, but there's a... There's a
• 43:51
  good version of jealousy. Jealousy in and of
• 43:52
  itself is like anger. It's not bad. It's what
• 43:55
  people do with it that's often bad. So I just
• 43:59
  find that an interesting topic about if the compersion
• 44:03
  stops and the person no longer is able to just
• 44:07
  be happy that another person is enjoying it and
• 44:10
  they have to, they feel like they have to center
• 44:13
  themselves. I just find that interesting topic.
• 44:16
  So, but I appreciate you guys chiming in on that.
• 44:26
  Socrates, you got another topic? You want me
• 44:29
  to expose myself some more? Oh, y 'all know I
• 44:31
  got topics. But expose away, brother. Expose
• 44:35
  away. All right. So I got another piece for y
• 44:41
  'all then. OK. So now that I've learned that
• 44:47
  she wants to be involved with couples, she's
• 44:50
  also learned that it surprises me about her.
• 44:56
  Okay, can I get you to pause for one second?
• 44:59
  Go ahead. Because this, I see she's kind of popping
• 45:02
  up in multiple topics. So just so that I'm on
• 45:05
  the same page, is she like, is she your wife?
• 45:09
  Is she a girlfriend? Is she just a partner or
• 45:12
  a fuck buddy? Like what role does she actually
• 45:15
  play in your life separate from the lifestyle?
• 45:19
  All right. So this is my queen. Her nickname
• 45:24
  literally is Kingmaker. This woman has the ability
• 45:28
  to level up any man she's with, not just 10 times,
• 45:33
  but 100 times. She just has it like that. The
• 45:37
  business acumen, the drive, the partnership aspect,
• 45:40
  like I have a side business and she's helped
• 45:43
  me on several of my events. You know, imagine
• 45:46
  telling your woman, telling your girl, hey, And
• 45:50
  you go break that down and wrap it and get it
• 45:52
  ready for me. And I'm not going to tell you how
• 45:54
  to do it because I got to go do something else.
• 45:56
  Imagine the blowback you go and get. My woman
• 45:59
  did this for me at a five star luxury hotel while
• 46:04
  I was DJing a very high end wedding and had to
• 46:08
  go do an after party. without asking me how to
• 46:12
  do anything. She broke everything down, took
• 46:15
  it back to the hotel room, and then came back
• 46:18
  to help me at the after party. And she said,
• 46:20
  I know you would just fix whatever I wasn't able
• 46:22
  to put together right later, but I knew it needed
• 46:24
  to get done. And I just did it. Didn't want to
• 46:26
  bother you. That's how tight we are. We've known
• 46:30
  each other for 20 years. We've been romantically
• 46:32
  linked for 10 years. We've been dating. I wouldn't
• 46:36
  say exclusively. We got a long distance. non
• 46:40
  -monogamous, ethically non -monogamous, dominant
• 46:42
  submissive interracial relationship. We call
• 46:45
  it the quadfecta. So she's right. Correct. And
• 46:52
  so she will have the ring shortly. She actually
• 46:55
  just bought me three rings. So she tells me she
• 46:57
  put a ring on it, and I better act like it. Hey,
• 47:00
  can she adopt a boyfriend? Can she adopt a boyfriend?
• 47:05
  I'm just kidding. I'm like, she passing rings
• 47:07
  on. Dude, actually. Actually, see, we were talking
• 47:11
  about conversion, what I had to recently deal
• 47:13
  with. So when we started our romantic connection,
• 47:17
  she was adamant from jump that since we live
• 47:20
  in two different cities, we needed to be ethically
• 47:23
  non -monogamous. Right. And she said, she said
• 47:26
  originally, the reason why was because we are
• 47:29
  both highly sexual people. And it just, it was
• 47:33
  going to cause problems if we tried to be exclusive
• 47:36
  at this distance. And initially I felt a little
• 47:41
  bit like, I don't know that I want to do this.
• 47:43
  I'm wondering, am I getting, am I getting hit
• 47:46
  with the okey boat? But I fell into it, it started
• 47:51
  to work and it seemed like I was getting more
• 47:54
  than she was. But her mentality is she only needed
• 47:58
  one source for Dick. She didn't need a bunch.
• 48:02
  But as soon as she says that she does have some
• 48:04
  other, what do you call them? Orbiters comments.
• 48:07
  dudes that she may not see for six, seven months,
• 48:11
  but they come through town and she would break
• 48:13
  them all. That was... She recently cut those
• 48:17
  dudes off. But there's this one steady dude.
• 48:20
  He's married. I swear this motherfucker looks
• 48:24
  like my twin. I swear. And so, low -key, I felt
• 48:30
  some way that, hey, this motherfucker looks too
• 48:32
  much like me. The second thing about him was...
• 48:37
  They had a really good friendship going and she
• 48:41
  would talk to him often. And I thought, hold
• 48:43
  up. I thought he was just getting some dick broke
• 48:46
  off. I didn't know y 'all was buddy buddy. And
• 48:50
  then this past weekend, I went to a party, a
• 48:55
  house party. He was there. He and I met in person
• 48:57
  and sure enough, I liked the motherfucker. I
• 48:59
  thought he was cool. Then I got to see them play
• 49:02
  together. And I had never seen them play together
• 49:05
  in person. I'd seen videos. They'd sent me videos
• 49:07
  before. But in person, there was this intimacy
• 49:11
  that I had to leave the room. And I talked to
• 49:17
  her later about it and said, I don't want you
• 49:19
  to stop seeing them. I don't want you to change
• 49:22
  what you're doing. I just want you to understand.
• 49:26
  What I saw, I hope you never feel what I felt.
• 49:31
  when you see me with another woman. Because if
• 49:33
  you feel a fraction of what I felt, you're going
• 49:36
  to make me stop. I didn't make you stop because
• 49:39
  I understood this is how you do what you do.
• 49:42
  But I think you have a level of possessiveness
• 49:44
  about me that you've never had to face before.
• 49:47
  And when you see me dip down a woman, you're
• 49:50
  going to have a problem. She's like, no, no,
• 49:52
  no. But then this couple thing is presented and
• 49:57
  the wife is asking me to spend the night and
• 49:59
  all this. And so That's the dynamic we're having.
• 50:02
  We have a very strong relationship, and we can
• 50:04
  actually talk about anything and everything,
• 50:06
  the hard conversations, and it does not negative.
• 50:10
  We speak openly, honestly, and explicitly with
• 50:15
  each other, but always respectfully. So I've
• 50:20
  never met another woman like her. There probably
• 50:21
  will never be another like her. So I don't want
• 50:23
  to lose her, but I need her to understand if
• 50:27
  we're going to continue in this lifestyle, This
• 50:30
  has got to get addressed Damn, I silenced the
• 50:38
  room. No. No, it's just like Michael see you
• 50:41
  good. You get the story Mike you mute it by the
• 50:45
  way Okay, we'll be moving on. Yeah. All right
• 50:49
  So you were about to say something Trent now
• 50:52
  that they got the backstory Okay, so here's the
• 50:56
  next So we are lined up to go to like I said,
• 51:00
  we're gonna go on this couples cruise this should
• 51:02
  say swingers cruise We've met these couples or
• 51:05
  we're building this out in advance The next big
• 51:07
  thing in April, we're going to splash mocha.
• 51:10
  Now I've talked offline with Demetri and with
• 51:15
  Socrates about this, but what I'm doing in all
• 51:18
  of this is I'm doing my research. I'm actually
• 51:22
  figuring out how to bring something like this,
• 51:27
  those things, a little piece, my own version
• 51:29
  of it, here to where I'm at in the Rocky Mountains.
• 51:34
  When I first came here to the Rocky Mountains,
• 51:36
  I was part of a crew that was doing something
• 51:39
  on a very low scale. But since then, it's dissolved.
• 51:46
  Tell him the name of it. Tell Pagan the name
• 51:48
  of it. Okay. Yeah. So, Pagan, I was a member
• 51:52
  of a crew called the Denver Horsemen. All right.
• 51:57
  Yeah. I'm with you, bro. Yeah. That's very close
• 52:01
  to mine. Mine was the... Was the four horsemen
• 52:04
  I like it. I like it. But so the whole thing
• 52:08
  is I Learned this about myself. I need a connection.
• 52:13
  I can't just I'm not a I call it sport fucking
• 52:16
  I can't sport fuck no more. I'm not a party dick
• 52:18
  anymore I'm a dude that I like I like the seduction
• 52:22
  piece me and me and Don Giovanni. We we connect
• 52:24
  on that I like the seduction piece. I like to
• 52:27
  build to something and then I connect with with
• 52:31
  with the Sigma, the Sigma male over there, and
• 52:34
  the idea of claim the mind, train the body, own
• 52:37
  the soul, okay? I'm right there with you on all
• 52:41
  of that. But what I'm trying to do is I want
• 52:43
  to create a very high -end, luxurious BBC experience.
• 52:51
  And literally, and you know, hey, if Spike tries
• 52:54
  to steal it, they get it going before me, good
• 52:55
  luck to them. But I really want to create a BBC
• 52:58
  and breakfast. I want to create a little low
• 53:02
  -key resort that's still high -end, where well
• 53:06
  -heeled couples who want the full Big Black Cock
• 53:10
  boyfriend experience come and get a weekend of
• 53:15
  pampering, of attention, of seduction, and, you
• 53:20
  know, if it works out, she gets dicked the fuck
• 53:23
  down, and then they go home. But you want to
• 53:27
  make an air BBC. Yes, exactly. But the thing
• 53:35
  is, I don't want to be the one slinging dick.
• 53:39
  I want to basically find, vet, train, and organize
• 53:49
  a group of brothers that know how to, basically
• 53:52
  brotherhood type brothers, that understand if
• 53:56
  there's more than just laying pipe. And there's
• 54:00
  more ways to lay pipe than just, you know, bang
• 54:03
  around in there until she busts one out. So my
• 54:08
  question to the crew is in all of your experience,
• 54:12
  number one, please tell me I'm not the only one
• 54:16
  has come up with this idea that you've seen somebody
• 54:18
  out there that's doing it, that you've seen it
• 54:20
  being done successfully. That's number one. And
• 54:22
  then number two, am I being a bit too nose in
• 54:30
  the air about it. You know, be too sophisticated
• 54:33
  about it. Like, you know, bring it down a notch.
• 54:38
  I don't think that you should take one bit of
• 54:42
  pause because I can tell already you got a vision
• 54:46
  and a passion. And what other people have done
• 54:50
  or whatever, I don't even... You would use that
• 54:53
  to inform you, of course, because that's just
• 54:55
  wise. But whether or not somebody's done it...
• 54:58
  I think that even if someone has done it, it
• 55:02
  shouldn't stop you from doing what you're talking
• 55:03
  about. I've never heard of it. And I think we've
• 55:06
  lost Michael C. He'll probably be back. He's
• 55:08
  put on events. Obviously, our boy Demetri knows
• 55:12
  about putting on the biggest event in the world
• 55:15
  that's interracial lifestyle. So I'll let them
• 55:19
  talk about it. But I just want to encourage you
• 55:21
  to go forward with your vision, man, because
• 55:23
  it's like field of dreams. If you build it, they
• 55:25
  will come. In this case, literally. so Like I
• 55:31
  think that you're talking about is such rare
• 55:34
  air That there can't be many people doing it
• 55:38
  and no one will do it like you So I say go with
• 55:41
  I was about to say God, but it sounds like more
• 55:43
  of a Satan thing You had to have Peyton Pagan
• 55:47
  say that one. Um, I want to jump in here Trey.
• 55:50
  We had talked about this and I think with Demetri
• 55:53
  And Demetri was yelling at me because I was interrupting
• 55:55
  you too much. I was so excited about the idea.
• 55:58
  But I can speak for every one of these gentlemen
• 56:00
  in the sense that even if you just listen to
• 56:03
  every single one of these guys' podcast episodes,
• 56:07
  and you talk to me personally on the business
• 56:09
  end, and all these gentlemen are very well versed
• 56:15
  in business and the work ethic. All I'm saying
• 56:19
  is, every little piece that you're thinking of
• 56:21
  is working. Put it all together. There's no reason
• 56:24
  why it doesn't, shouldn't come together. But
• 56:26
  also, you're surrounded by gentlemen who have
• 56:30
  experience in every level and that could really,
• 56:33
  you know, get on the phone or a telegram and
• 56:35
  just be like, hey, what do you guys think about
• 56:37
  this and this detail and that? You know, I can't
• 56:40
  think of, between all of us, there isn't anything
• 56:42
  in the aspect of building that that we couldn't
• 56:45
  at least get on the phone and give you some free
• 56:47
  advice on. Nobody can make any commitments, but
• 56:50
  I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you got a great
• 56:52
  idea. I agree with Pagan. Your passion and commitment
• 56:56
  and attention to detail is there. I'm signed
• 56:59
  on. We've already talked. Whatever I can help
• 57:02
  in business and investing and networking, whatever,
• 57:07
  and so. I love you, brother, but you won't get
• 57:10
  in there and sling some dick on some holly. Oh,
• 57:12
  I didn't say that. Hey, brother. Hey. I didn't
• 57:16
  say what you said. I would definitely be as,
• 57:18
  you know, one of the BBC features. So, of course.
• 57:22
  But, you know, and the Bull Brotherhood is committed
• 57:24
  to this. All these, you know, Michael C. Everybody
• 57:27
  is committed to... What I loved about Michael
• 57:30
  C. is I learned, you know, I've done some event
• 57:33
  with him and... I told him straight up, I'm just
• 57:37
  gonna be a student. I'm gonna absorb everything.
• 57:40
  And after it was done, he said, man, go out there
• 57:42
  and do your thing. You got it? He was like, we
• 57:47
  need more people out there. So all of us are
• 57:50
  in abundance mindset. And all of us are like,
• 57:54
  yeah, we will be, if anything, cheering you.
• 57:57
  Go do it. And happy that you're doing it and
• 58:01
  sharing it with others because... We wanna grow
• 58:04
  this community and we want people like you out
• 58:06
  there who wanna do it the right way. True that.
• 58:13
  Well, I guess I jump in and say something right.
• 58:19
  Yes, Trey, you do have a great idea. And as we
• 58:24
  spoken before about it, I support you 100%. Now,
• 58:30
  as I stated, there are other groups out there
• 58:34
  that do something similar. I would just say an
• 58:37
  open -based model form, but you have your own
• 58:42
  recipe, and that's what will make it so unique
• 58:45
  for you, the way you put it together. As everybody
• 58:49
  in the panel just said, we are committed, we
• 58:53
  are going to support you to the best of our abilities,
• 58:55
  and I say that from my mouth to your ears, are
• 58:59
  the last time we talk. Don't sell yourself short.
• 59:06
  If you have a dream, turn it to a goal. Your
• 59:10
  ideal, turn it to a goal. And put it to traction
• 59:14
  and put it to effect, and we're gonna be right
• 59:16
  there to help you along the way. Don't worry
• 59:19
  about the next person, the next person's brand.
• 59:22
  Focus on yours. And as Pete Paganis said, with
• 59:29
  our brand, it's flash. Bro, come over there and
• 59:32
  check it out if you want to come into the network
• 59:34
  and meet some quality brothers. I have 150 to
• 59:36
  175 guys there. Sit back and you can listen or
• 59:40
  you can go through and do a little conversation
• 59:43
  with those guys. I'm all for it. I would say
• 59:50
  being in this position, I believe that it's great
• 59:55
  to lean the platform so other people can level
• 59:59
  it up instead of trying to be the only person
• 1:00:02
  to talk, you know. I do offer a ladder, I do
• 1:00:05
  offer a hand, I do offer a shoulder. So take
• 1:00:08
  advantage of that. I don't think I was gonna
• 1:00:10
  say, like I said before, I would give you the
• 1:00:14
  keys to the car and I would send the passenger
• 1:00:17
  seat while you drive. Just don't drive blindly,
• 1:00:22
  okay? We support you, we got you. Let's get your
• 1:00:26
  brain going. I'm right there with you. I appreciate
• 1:00:32
  it. Demetri, can I ask you a question? Like,
• 1:00:35
  with a high -end event like this, you said that
• 1:00:37
  there are others, like, what is your experience
• 1:00:40
  with that? You know, how many are there? How
• 1:00:43
  big do they do it? Is it exotic locations? Like,
• 1:00:46
  what have you called yours? So, just off the
• 1:00:52
  top, I know at least five. And they pretty much
• 1:00:58
  have a similar model to where they get a mansion.
• 1:01:04
  and they even make them Hot Wife based or Coco
• 1:01:09
  based, but some guys just, they model them different.
• 1:01:13
  They go, hey, I'm gonna give you the porn star
• 1:01:16
  experience, or I'm gonna give you the Elite BBC
• 1:01:20
  experience, as they're doing the Hito MocaFest
• 1:01:26
  experience. You know, everybody got their own
• 1:01:29
  certain twist to it. And I will say it's a...
• 1:01:34
  they're very successful, but that still shouldn't
• 1:01:37
  hold you or hinder you because you got different
• 1:01:40
  reasons, you got different times, you got different
• 1:01:43
  locations and all that. It's where it would still
• 1:01:46
  be beneficial for the lifestyle community because
• 1:01:48
  again, being a gentleman of color in the lifestyle
• 1:01:55
  is still not enough for us out there. And there
• 1:02:00
  need to be more, so. Again, but don't let that
• 1:02:04
  hold you back. Now, again, like I said, I know
• 1:02:08
  just five off the top of my head, but I know
• 1:02:11
  there are more, but it's another factor to the
• 1:02:16
  goal that you're traveling for. And then, like
• 1:02:19
  I said, some people doing results, some people
• 1:02:21
  doing matches, and some people even doing like
• 1:02:24
  just taking over a hotel floor. So it goes in
• 1:02:31
  hand in hand with their success, making it work
• 1:02:33
  for themselves. Trent, I can testify because
• 1:02:39
  Dee was in my ear about this. And he was in my
• 1:02:43
  ear several times. And one day I just said, I
• 1:02:46
  looked and there's nothing in my, I'm in the
• 1:02:49
  Pacific Northwest. There's nothing in my area.
• 1:02:53
  And there was one guy out in Montana doing something.
• 1:02:56
  And I heard big wigs are going out there, big
• 1:02:59
  name people. I can name, I'm not gonna put it
• 1:03:02
  out there, but it's public out there. And I was
• 1:03:04
  like, whoa. I thought there was nothing out here
• 1:03:07
  because there was no interest. I did one party,
• 1:03:11
  put it on FetLife, reached my goal, double faster
• 1:03:19
  than I thought it was in the numbers. Now I'm
• 1:03:21
  building up for the next party, and all because
• 1:03:24
  I just listened to what everything these fellas
• 1:03:27
  said. As I have Michael C. say, hey man, do your
• 1:03:32
  thing. I had Brian Morgan say, hey man, you got
• 1:03:34
  what it takes. at D saying, hey, you guys wanna
• 1:03:37
  do this podcast, I'm gonna put it out there to
• 1:03:40
  everybody I know all around the world. You got
• 1:03:44
  Mr. Mocha calling me and cursing me out. You
• 1:03:48
  got Pagan with his wise words, D send to yourself,
• 1:03:51
  bro, let go of the outcome. You have these gentlemen
• 1:03:54
  here and all they wanna do is forward the community
• 1:03:58
  and forward you. because they got theirs. They've
• 1:04:01
  mastered enough to where they're fine. They're
• 1:04:04
  not thirsty. They're not looking for anything.
• 1:04:06
  So I'm gonna tell you as a testimony, bro, what
• 1:04:09
  I'm doing now and the things that I'm doing with
• 1:04:12
  the podcast and with the events that I'm doing
• 1:04:14
  is because I have the same exact conversations
• 1:04:18
  with all of these brothers, you know? And so,
• 1:04:23
  yeah, I'm witness that you can just do exactly
• 1:04:26
  what Demetri said. Take that from words down
• 1:04:29
  to a plan and that plan down to an execution
• 1:04:33
  and that execution down to a team of people that
• 1:04:37
  can advise you and do it with you and have your
• 1:04:39
  back. And it will become a reality. And I'm a
• 1:04:42
  witness. I'm telling you right now. And before
• 1:04:45
  I go any further, because I know my girl's gonna
• 1:04:47
  listen to this, the whole reason I'm able to
• 1:04:52
  pursue this the way that I'm pursuing it is because
• 1:04:55
  she, from... I shouldn't say from the initial
• 1:05:01
  thought that popped into my brain, but she wants
• 1:05:04
  to be involved with this. She wants to support
• 1:05:06
  it. She's actually been sending me pictures of
• 1:05:11
  or listings of properties in her area. And we're
• 1:05:16
  going to start looking at Maria because we're
• 1:05:18
  thinking about making two locations, but she
• 1:05:21
  is right in line with it. So that's how tight
• 1:05:25
  I am with this woman that My dream is her dream
• 1:05:29
  and together we're building. But again, I sought
• 1:05:34
  you gentlemen out. I didn't stumble across you.
• 1:05:39
  I hunted you and I listened. I took notes. I
• 1:05:42
  tried to get into the spaces and places where
• 1:05:44
  you are because you are the type of gentlemen.
• 1:05:48
  Iron sharpens iron. If you want to improve, surround
• 1:05:53
  yourself with people that are better than you.
• 1:05:55
  That's why I'm here. So I appreciate that you
• 1:05:58
  gentlemen are welcoming me in and are offering
• 1:06:02
  your advice, your experience, your expertise.
• 1:06:06
  Thank you. Yeah, I just want to say one last
• 1:06:09
  thing just to throw you flowers, bro, because
• 1:06:11
  I just met you. But the way you come recommended
• 1:06:14
  by all these other people that I respect, I don't
• 1:06:17
  have to know anything more. And there's an abundance
• 1:06:20
  of mindset that you're already showing, which
• 1:06:23
  is you fucking said it on the podcast of the
• 1:06:26
  whole world, what you want to do. Most people
• 1:06:28
  that have scarcity would be like, I ain't gonna
• 1:06:30
  say this in front of nobody. They might steal
• 1:06:32
  my idea. You are already coming from a mindset
• 1:06:36
  of all of these fucking ties will raise all the
• 1:06:40
  ships. And that's a great attitude to have. And
• 1:06:43
  I just, you know, it might just be my worldview,
• 1:06:46
  karmically. I think you're gonna be rewarded
• 1:06:47
  for that. So kudos to you, bruh. Appreciate it.
• 1:06:53
  Trey, I think he's got me. I was just about to
• 1:06:57
  say. Trey, I think you got six, five or six gentlemen
• 1:07:00
  right here that are already exemplifying what
• 1:07:06
  you want to do, all right? And the key word,
• 1:07:09
  you said it, is boyfriend experience, correct?
• 1:07:14
  That's what you spring. It's a boyfriend experience.
• 1:07:17
  And I know that there are so many couples out
• 1:07:20
  there, and I'm speaking from experience, I know
• 1:07:23
  there are so many couples out there who are seeking
• 1:07:27
  men who can bring them and give them that boyfriend
• 1:07:32
  experience. And that's everything. From mental
• 1:07:36
  to physical, you know, some emotional, et cetera,
• 1:07:40
  et cetera, et cetera. So if you can find, or
• 1:07:44
  we can find, about how many guys are you looking
• 1:07:48
  for? Oh, see, that's the thing. At this time,
• 1:07:52
  right now, I'm looking for my couples, but I'm
• 1:07:55
  looking for... I'm looking for three gentlemen.
• 1:08:01
  When I get myself the couples that I need for
• 1:08:04
  this, and in fact, I haven't told my girl about
• 1:08:07
  this yet because the conversation just started
• 1:08:09
  today. I got another couple that doesn't really
• 1:08:12
  make the rounds that reached out to me today,
• 1:08:15
  and they're local. And already, the husband and
• 1:08:18
  wife, I spoke to the wife on the phone, talked
• 1:08:20
  to the husband through text, and I have to say,
• 1:08:23
  I gotta speak to the woman because I gotta know
• 1:08:25
  she's involved and she's aware. But already,
• 1:08:29
  she's talking about, she wants the experience
• 1:08:31
  of being owned by a bull, and then that bull
• 1:08:36
  having his friends assist him. and training her
• 1:08:40
  from time to time. So I'm like, OK, I can't handle
• 1:08:43
  this woman by myself. OK, I'm sorry. I'm sorry
• 1:08:45
  to interrupt. What's her name exactly, and what's
• 1:08:47
  her ass? I'll just fuck you with you. But not
• 1:08:53
  fucking with you. But I'll fuck you with you.
• 1:08:55
  No, yeah. Brothers here, brothers trust me. Once
• 1:08:59
  I verify that they are legit and they are serious,
• 1:09:03
  I will hit you all up in the group, and we will
• 1:09:06
  open on something. Because again, like I said,
• 1:09:09
  I'm not a sport fucker. I'm not a party dick.
• 1:09:12
  I am a facilitator. I am a cultivator. You tell
• 1:09:16
  me what you want. You tell me what you need.
• 1:09:18
  I make sure you are able, willing and able and
• 1:09:21
  capable of receiving it, and I make it happen.
• 1:09:23
  That's what I do. I'm... I'm... Mr. Rourke on
• 1:09:26
  Fantasy Island one million dollars. Oh That's
• 1:09:32
  great and now you're just I don't know if you
• 1:09:34
  know this but you just promised me there's gonna
• 1:09:36
  be a dwarf when I ride going Oh My goodness,
• 1:09:43
  yeah, I gotta go find my tattoo now damn it But
• 1:09:50
  seriously, but well Demetri already told me you
• 1:09:54
  down so I'm like, I'm like, all right, so Uh,
• 1:09:57
  I got a fire woman that could handle a massive
• 1:09:59
  beefcake brother. So, uh, I know i've seen this
• 1:10:04
  before back when I first moved here I've seen
• 1:10:07
  that these people exist these well well -heeled
• 1:10:12
  Luxury minded people exist. I just need to get
• 1:10:16
  back in their orbit With a reputation and a swagger
• 1:10:20
  that lets them know i'm not just any old swinging
• 1:10:23
  dick And i'm not out here trying to knock down
• 1:10:27
  in numbers. I'm trying to make something happen.
• 1:10:30
  With my side business that I work, I'm in luxurious
• 1:10:35
  spaces and places frequently, but I'm not in
• 1:10:40
  that lifestyle mindset when I'm in those spaces.
• 1:10:44
  So my face is familiar to these people that have
• 1:10:47
  money. My reputation as far as my business is
• 1:10:51
  familiar to these people that have money, but
• 1:10:54
  I don't know which of them are in the lifestyle,
• 1:10:58
  even though I know statistically there's more
• 1:11:00
  than a few handfuls of them that are. Well, that's
• 1:11:04
  right. I need to get my stuff lined up. Go ahead.
• 1:11:07
  This also goes to you, P. Have either one of
• 1:11:11
  you guys ever heard of a club called Inter Sanctum?
• 1:11:16
  No. I'm familiar with Sanctum. Okay, that may
• 1:11:20
  be the same one based in Cali. Yeah. So, um,
• 1:11:25
  yeah, you know, because, uh, you may not be up
• 1:11:28
  on this, but, uh, they call me the bougie brother.
• 1:11:30
  So that's why he fucking asked me. Um, sanctum,
• 1:11:35
  basically the guy who started it, you can watch
• 1:11:39
  a reality show about it on Showtime, actually.
• 1:11:43
  Um, this guy's name is Damon and you can see
• 1:11:46
  how he built these parties. In fact, you should
• 1:11:47
  watch that show if you're doing a high end party.
• 1:11:50
  Cause he talks about how he built it. the pitfalls,
• 1:11:53
  all that. They basically, to put it in a nutshell,
• 1:11:56
  he saw eyes wide shut and was like, I'm doing
• 1:11:58
  that. So men have to show up with like not just
• 1:12:04
  dressed well, you have to have a jacket and a
• 1:12:06
  tie. Women, obviously, is more loose, but it's
• 1:12:10
  a higher end party. I believe he started it here
• 1:12:13
  in L .A. But he also expanded it to Moscow, which
• 1:12:17
  I can only imagine what that fucking party is
• 1:12:20
  like. And then I think he did it in another country
• 1:12:24
  as well. It was like London or something. He
• 1:12:27
  has since also. Yeah, he has since sold it. But
• 1:12:31
  what he did was he created this high level and
• 1:12:35
  I'm going to just call it straight up like Illuminati
• 1:12:38
  feeling. Because when I know I became a member
• 1:12:41
  and they did an interview with me and my girl.
• 1:12:45
  And when they accepted my membership, they gave
• 1:12:47
  me a fucking ring with a fucking symbol on it
• 1:12:50
  that straight up Illuminati. like That's how
• 1:12:53
  they gave you the feeling that you were looking
• 1:12:56
  behind a curtain that no one else really gets
• 1:12:58
  to go by now that said I Went there one time
• 1:13:04
  and it was like four dudes there that looked
• 1:13:07
  like you know Tech bros or whatever that weren't
• 1:13:10
  wearing the proper attire and they they found
• 1:13:12
  their ticket on Groupon So I don't know what
• 1:13:14
  the fuck was going on that night He did do it
• 1:13:18
  in high -end mansions just like Demetri said
• 1:13:21
  the top floor of a hotel the penthouse suite
• 1:13:23
  They did stuff like there's a whiskey taste or
• 1:13:26
  you're eating sushi off of a nude woman Which
• 1:13:29
  is a thing in Japan is a word for it because
• 1:13:31
  they're the kinkiest people I've ever met Japanese.
• 1:13:33
  Yes, there is I'm feeling with that one. So he's
• 1:13:36
  incorporating high -end sensual experiences the
• 1:13:40
  difference is His parties weren't about the guest
• 1:13:44
  fucking the guests were fucking And you would
• 1:13:47
  see people like, you know, giving blowjobs, this
• 1:13:50
  and that. He was actually, though, about putting
• 1:13:52
  on a sensual experience with professional performers.
• 1:13:57
  So there were foreign stars, escorts. The first
• 1:14:00
  party I went into, I walked in the doors, this
• 1:14:02
  mansion up in Beverly Hills, and there was a
• 1:14:05
  woman dressed like Marie Antoinette, you know,
• 1:14:07
  with the big wig that goes like a beehive, like
• 1:14:10
  Mars Simpson. Right. And she was bent over I'm
• 1:14:16
  sorry, she was supposed to be Catherine the Great
• 1:14:18
  because she was, you'll see why. She was being
• 1:14:23
  fucked by another woman who had on a horse mask
• 1:14:26
  and a fucking strap on, with a horse dick on
• 1:14:29
  it. And then there was this little person next
• 1:14:32
  to her that looked like a ringmaster in a circus,
• 1:14:34
  like there was whip in the horse. That's the
• 1:14:36
  first thing I saw on my first party. And I was
• 1:14:39
  like, I'm fucking home. So, but that was like
• 1:14:44
  a really high end, party that you might wanna
• 1:14:47
  look into as well. Okay, so I'm not sure if I,
• 1:14:51
  I think I may have talked with Sigma and Socrates
• 1:14:56
  about this in my initial conversation, but to
• 1:15:00
  clue the rest of the Brotherhood in on my background,
• 1:15:04
  there was a time, like my true introduction to
• 1:15:09
  professional tuck couples, was there was a club
• 1:15:14
  in St. Louis, a, one of the original adult movie
• 1:15:18
  theaters, actual movie theater screens, that,
• 1:15:21
  uh, this is back in the early days of the internet,
• 1:15:25
  back when Excite Personals and Yahoo groups still
• 1:15:28
  existed. Um, this, I got scouted, like, I literally
• 1:15:35
  went on a date with a woman who happened to be
• 1:15:37
  the barmaid at this theater, and I didn't know
• 1:15:41
  it. but I guess I impressed her. She told the
• 1:15:44
  owner about me. The owner calls me up out of
• 1:15:47
  the blue and asks me to come in. He wants to
• 1:15:49
  talk to me about, you know, a job. I go there,
• 1:15:52
  I sit down and talk with him, and he explains
• 1:15:54
  that he has five millionaire couples. He calls
• 1:15:59
  them the Millionaires Club. Five couples that
• 1:16:01
  come in from time to time, but they don't fuck
• 1:16:04
  around with the regular... They kind of have
• 1:16:07
  their own little special thing, but in that group
• 1:16:09
  of five couples There's one particular couple
• 1:16:12
  that when she's there the queen bee Nobody fucks
• 1:16:17
  until she fucks So whenever she comes she fucks
• 1:16:22
  up his business Because nobody gets to fuck and
• 1:16:25
  so they don't drink and they don't do anything
• 1:16:27
  My job is to spend time with that woman When
• 1:16:33
  she's there and get her to fuck. And once I do
• 1:16:39
  that, it's a party. Well, I got really good at
• 1:16:43
  that to the point where they wanted me to facilitate
• 1:16:47
  parties, private parties at hotels, then private
• 1:16:51
  parties at their homes. There was also, this
• 1:16:54
  was around the time that Eyes Wide Shut came
• 1:16:56
  out, they also created a special members -only
• 1:17:01
  room in the theater We actually had to exit the
• 1:17:04
  building and go around to a special door. In
• 1:17:07
  this room, there was a bed suspended off the
• 1:17:10
  floor and each corner of the room was a camera
• 1:17:13
  pointed at the bed. I was supposed to wear these
• 1:17:16
  special underwear that let my cock hang out,
• 1:17:18
  but not my balls. And the wife, she would wear
• 1:17:22
  a mask and basically at any angle I was fucking
• 1:17:25
  her at, she could look at a screen and watch
• 1:17:27
  herself being fucked. So she was getting a Uh,
• 1:17:30
  they called it the behind the green door experience
• 1:17:33
  So i was about to say you had to join it. You
• 1:17:35
  had the johnny green door keys. Yeah, the draw
• 1:17:37
  Yep, with the dick. I so Right. And so that was
• 1:17:42
  my introduction to the fact that there was something
• 1:17:45
  like this out there I quit doing it because I
• 1:17:49
  learned this is where I encountered my first
• 1:17:52
  puck scorsese Um or a puff cameron, uh that that
• 1:17:57
  cuck that wants to direct and control everything
• 1:18:00
  They also, I learned, of the dynamic between
• 1:18:04
  the cuck and the wife, where the cuck is trying
• 1:18:09
  to get the wife to do things that the wife doesn't
• 1:18:11
  want to do, but he thinks that the bull has some
• 1:18:16
  sort of mesmerizing control over her, and so
• 1:18:20
  if he tells the bull to get her to do it, she'll
• 1:18:22
  do it, but the wife knows... that the cuck is
• 1:18:25
  trying to get the bull to do that shit. So she
• 1:18:27
  makes the bull work even harder and you become
• 1:18:30
  a chew toy between you two dogs. So that was
• 1:18:34
  something that if I do this, I want to avoid
• 1:18:38
  that shit. That's why I got to sit down and interview
• 1:18:40
  both and under come to an understanding with
• 1:18:42
  both that I know what the wife truly wants the
• 1:18:45
  cuck. I understand what he wants and how do I
• 1:18:47
  bridge that gap? Because I'm not getting used
• 1:18:50
  by you guys. I'm using you. Yeah, bringing that
• 1:18:54
  up, bro. Brings it to another subject and I'm
• 1:18:57
  sure you're already aware of because you just
• 1:18:58
  talked about it But it's important to highlight
• 1:19:02
  this because it's just a reality You're gonna
• 1:19:05
  be creating rare air that a lot of people can't
• 1:19:08
  afford What's gonna happen and I already notice
• 1:19:13
  is the couples are gonna be in another income
• 1:19:15
  bracket in the men Yes, that's true at fucking
• 1:19:19
  splash mocha You're creating a situation where
• 1:19:23
  that disparity is even bigger and the the The
• 1:19:28
  trap that a person could fall into is taking
• 1:19:31
  care of the people spending a ton of money and
• 1:19:33
  not taking care of the guys. And a couple putting
• 1:19:35
  this event on might do that. But you're coming
• 1:19:37
  from the point of view of you were and are one
• 1:19:40
  of those guys. So the fact that you will take
• 1:19:43
  care of and respect the men as much as you will
• 1:19:47
  the couples is also something to make sure you
• 1:19:50
  let guys know. Because a lot of us are used to
• 1:19:53
  not being treated as equals, frankly. And that's
• 1:19:57
  what people that make 20 gram order nuts like
• 1:19:59
  that's that just happened. So that's another
• 1:20:03
  aspect of this to keep your eye on, because that's
• 1:20:05
  just human nature. They're going to expect special
• 1:20:08
  treatment everywhere these wealthy people go.
• 1:20:11
  They get it. But emphasizing to them, no, these
• 1:20:15
  men are your equals or superiors as the case.
• 1:20:20
  Yeah. Yeah. I think I'd be so. That's one aspect
• 1:20:25
  to think about, but you already are clearly on
• 1:20:27
  that. Yes, yes, sir. Yeah, that's the thing that
• 1:20:31
  in parts, it's why I left the lifestyle is because
• 1:20:35
  I wasn't in a position to push back. And to me,
• 1:20:40
  money didn't matter. I would have these husbands
• 1:20:42
  would be putting wads of $100 bills in my pocket.
• 1:20:47
  trying to convince me to do something that I
• 1:20:49
  knew the wife was not interested in doing, but
• 1:20:52
  it didn't hurt him. If she, you know, slapped
• 1:20:54
  me and kicked me out of the house, it didn't
• 1:20:56
  hurt him. And the pain, the psychological pain,
• 1:21:02
  because I was alone. I didn't know there were
• 1:21:05
  other brothers out there doing what I was doing.
• 1:21:07
  The psychological pain that came from being isolated
• 1:21:11
  and feeling like a piece of meat and feeling
• 1:21:13
  disrespected. I never want to see another to
• 1:21:17
  go through that. And so part of the reason why
• 1:21:21
  I searched for you guys was before I found you
• 1:21:24
  guys, I was looking at how do I create something
• 1:21:26
  like a little pamphlet out there for up and coming
• 1:21:30
  young black men who find themselves moving in
• 1:21:36
  this lifestyle, how to navigate it, how to keep
• 1:21:39
  your wits about you when others are trying to
• 1:21:43
  lead you astray. You know, because there's more
• 1:21:46
  to us than just what swings between our legs.
• 1:21:48
  There's what's between our ears. And you can
• 1:21:51
  bring the two together if you have the right
• 1:21:53
  mindset and the right mentors around you. Yeah,
• 1:22:00
  Trey. Going into this dynamic is going to take
• 1:22:09
  a lot of fucking trust. And I'm standing there
• 1:22:17
  for it from experience. Like I said, I can go
• 1:22:24
  back to, I'm not gonna say this guy's name, but
• 1:22:28
  one of the OGs doing this type of parties, and
• 1:22:33
  his name still make waves right now today. But
• 1:22:40
  the, I'll give you a punch drunk on his own high
• 1:22:43
  greeds, envy, just a lot of bullshit. It not
• 1:22:52
  about that. was the guys that he trusts. He treated
• 1:23:02
  them so shitty that they knocked him down too.
• 1:23:06
  No, I want you to think about what Cesar said
• 1:23:11
  to Brutus when Brutus stabs his ass in the back.
• 1:23:15
  And I don't want you to go through that. So you
• 1:23:19
  got to make sure that when you put this together,
• 1:23:24
  you got your guys are... of pedestal. There are
• 1:23:35
  money, there are status, because there are money
• 1:23:38
  and status open so many doors for them that they
• 1:23:41
  don't know don't exist in them anymore. And to
• 1:23:46
  put these guys in that space, sometimes the psychological
• 1:23:49
  side may play a fate to where they know that
• 1:23:52
  these people have more than they have, to where
• 1:23:55
  it can play on their ego or may not know about
• 1:23:58
  the reality back into them. So, my thing to you
• 1:24:02
  is that you have to let these, groom to these
• 1:24:05
  guys that, hey, this is your home, and these
• 1:24:08
  are your, like, they are here for you. And just,
• 1:24:15
  like I said, keep it full of transfer, keep it
• 1:24:17
  fully honest, keep the respect above anything,
• 1:24:21
  and I do believe that it'll be very, very successful
• 1:24:23
  for you. Now, there are some other things I would
• 1:24:26
  share with you, but I'm not gonna share on the
• 1:24:28
  podcast right now. This is a problem. No, it
• 1:24:31
  doesn't come straight between us. Because again,
• 1:24:36
  it's something about just being there for my
• 1:24:39
  brothers where you share your goal and it's not
• 1:24:41
  just a dream. It becomes a passion and a drive
• 1:24:43
  for me. Not to try to take over, but I just want
• 1:24:46
  to be on that journey with you. And I'm not going
• 1:24:50
  to say I, but we truly want you to succeed in
• 1:24:54
  this. And I don't believe in failure. All the
• 1:24:58
  time I would call you a failure. if you keep
• 1:25:00
  fucking dreaming and you don't put nothing into
• 1:25:02
  action. So let's get this ball rolling for you.
• 1:25:11
  And I truly think this could be something great
• 1:25:14
  you got going on. Yeah. And then just one other
• 1:25:19
  thing that occurred to me while you guys were
• 1:25:20
  talking, we talked about what to be careful with,
• 1:25:25
  with, you know, wealthy and what their expectations
• 1:25:27
  are and how they treat the guys. just to flip
• 1:25:30
  that on his head and talk for a second about
• 1:25:32
  the kind of guys you want. As a friend of mine
• 1:25:38
  who basically ran high -end escorts here in Los
• 1:25:43
  Angeles. So like when the Sultan of Brunei comes
• 1:25:47
  to town or some Sikh or whatever, these are the
• 1:25:50
  girls that we're talking about. So, you know,
• 1:25:54
  it could be four or five grand, not even for
• 1:25:58
  the whole night. You know what I mean? Right.
• 1:26:01
  He talked to me about how, like, when he's looking
• 1:26:03
  for these women, obviously they're attractive,
• 1:26:05
  but there's a thing that he had to, like, if
• 1:26:08
  the girl was from the backwoods somewhere, sticks,
• 1:26:13
  there was an educational portion that he had
• 1:26:15
  to go through a lot of times, where he had to,
• 1:26:19
  like, get them up on, like, politics, current
• 1:26:22
  events. Like, there's an aspect of what these
• 1:26:25
  people are looking for when they're wealthy.
• 1:26:27
  That is beyond the sexual aspect right so we
• 1:26:31
  all know there's lots of brothers that can dick
• 1:26:34
  a woman down and That's great and some of your
• 1:26:37
  couples might be looking for that exactly But
• 1:26:40
  there are gonna be probably a lot of your couples
• 1:26:43
  who are looking for especially if it's the boyfriend
• 1:26:45
  experience They're looking for culture. They're
• 1:26:48
  looking for refinement. They're looking for a
• 1:26:50
  dude. They can talk to on their level So as you're
• 1:26:53
  looking for guys It might be a little different
• 1:26:56
  than your typical house party in terms of, yeah,
• 1:26:59
  you got to balance with the physical side, but
• 1:27:02
  you're also looking for intellect. You're looking
• 1:27:04
  for other aspects that these couples are going
• 1:27:08
  to be enticed by beyond the bedroom. So just
• 1:27:11
  think about that too. Oh, no, I'm right there
• 1:27:13
  with you. And that's why in park, I'm a firm
• 1:27:16
  believer of before I can teach you, I got to
• 1:27:19
  make sure I'm proficient at it. You know, there's
• 1:27:22
  that old saying of, you know, those that can
• 1:27:25
  do those that can't teach. No, I don't. I'm not
• 1:27:28
  going out like that. I want to make sure that
• 1:27:31
  I'm skillful at it so that I can impart the wisdom
• 1:27:34
  to the next crew. I'm also very picky about the
• 1:27:39
  people I associate with. I'm very picky. And
• 1:27:43
  so in the last 20 years that I've been here where
• 1:27:48
  I'm at, There's only been one gentleman here
• 1:27:53
  in this area that I truly consider a friend.
• 1:27:55
  I do not toss the word friend around easily.
• 1:27:58
  And this gentleman is such a friend that when
• 1:28:01
  I decided to set up an experience for my woman,
• 1:28:04
  for my kingmaker, he was one of the two men that
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  I selected for that experience. And so I'm slowly
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  indoctrinating him into the lifestyle because
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  I feel he already embodies the persona. the sophistication,
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  the intellect, the fashion sense, the physical
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  skill set. He already embodies all of it. He
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  just doesn't have lifestyle experience. So I'm
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  bringing him in slowly and showing him so he
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  can avoid the pitfalls. He's got to get his own
• 1:28:37
  scars. Baby got to burn his hand to learn that
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  the stove is hot. But if I can reduce the number
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  of scars that he gets and make him proficient,
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  I know I got one in the chamber. And then, talking
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  to you gentlemen, I got Socrates, I got Demetri,
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  I got Brian, you know, maybe I can bring in,
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  you know, a pagan. Maybe I can, you know, if
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  I'm really good at it, bring in a Michael. You
• 1:29:03
  know, it's just whoever I can get that's interesting.
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  And I haven't forgot you, Mr. Mocha. We're gonna
• 1:29:08
  connect, Mr. Mocha. But I want to... Listen,
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  man, I'm not fencing it. Don't worry about it.
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  Okay, well, the whole idea, though, is before
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  I can, like, finding the gentleman isn't easy,
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  but finding the types of couples that I'm looking
• 1:29:26
  for is the hard part, because these couples are
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  going to be very discreet and very selective.
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  But when they know somebody is vetted, somebody
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  actually pays attention to their needs, then
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  they'll start queueing up. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And also, they're not hard to find. Yeah, Raoul.
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  We got you. And also, Trey, depending on how
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  you put this thing out, I know, you know, Demetri
• 1:29:57
  knows how to get stuff out overseas. They will
• 1:30:02
  fly, they fly over with something like this.
• 1:30:05
  Believe me. Right. I was about to spread that
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  wisdom like, bro, I saw Abu Dhabi in Dubai a
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  few times. Your European, your European contingency
• 1:30:15
  will fly over. for this they will especially
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  especially when you if it's worded just right
• 1:30:23
  because they they will know that okay they he
• 1:30:26
  has men of distinction right he has men who are
• 1:30:30
  very very versatile um and that's like i said
• 1:30:33
  that's what they're looking for man and then
• 1:30:36
  brian you'll you'll appreciate this piece with
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  my executive protection training being able to
• 1:30:43
  also add that piece of discretion, they know
• 1:30:46
  they don't necessarily have to bling their full
• 1:30:50
  detail. They can reduce it because they also
• 1:30:53
  know they got somebody that understands that
• 1:30:57
  dignitary and high net worth personality how
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  to handle that. That's another piece that some
• 1:31:08
  people ain't gonna be able to bring to it. I
• 1:31:10
  literally have training with a bunch of alphabet
• 1:31:14
  agencies in that skillful art of dignitary protection.
• 1:31:21
  We definitely know how to protect and serve.
• 1:31:24
  I'm gonna leave it at that. Hey, Front. Yeah.
• 1:31:29
  We do. And gentlemen, I am looking at the time
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  right now. It is 9 -17. We've been on this for
• 1:31:38
  a little while damn good conversation damn good
• 1:31:41
  conversation. Oh You guys want to continue for
• 1:31:45
  a little for a few more minutes. So are we going?
• 1:31:49
  Oh, I got it out at 630 So, you know about 15
• 1:31:53
  minutes more is all I've got personally and okay
• 1:31:55
  I'd buy to say I can go about another 13 minutes
• 1:31:58
  and stuff Real quick pagan if you're in the in
• 1:32:03
  the the chat. Yes, I posted it I posted a PDF
• 1:32:07
  in the chat of those threat models that I was
• 1:32:09
  talking. Oh, okay. I appreciate you. I'll look
• 1:32:12
  at it. It's right here in the app. I appreciate
• 1:32:14
  you, man. No problem. Yes, sir. As I stated before,
• 1:32:23
  when me, you, and Socrates was on the phone,
• 1:32:27
  and I cut the conversation, if you remember,
• 1:32:31
  I stopped talking because I, you stressed, well,
• 1:32:35
  you didn't stress, but you stated that. your
• 1:32:39
  lady wants to be involved. And I say, okay, I
• 1:32:42
  say, well, let's stop here. And once you get
• 1:32:46
  up the current and then we can go from there.
• 1:32:52
  I still offer that same gesture to you. You got
• 1:32:55
  my number, you could plug it in as a three way
• 1:32:58
  and we can start building your model as soon
• 1:33:01
  as you guys are ready. I mean, I jump out going
• 1:33:06
  60 miles an hour, so. and I try to tackle international
• 1:33:12
  networking and then come bring it in domestic
• 1:33:16
  because of travel and security and everything
• 1:33:19
  else. So the sooner the better, my brother. I'm
• 1:33:23
  going to tell you this right now. After we end
• 1:33:26
  this conversation, I'm going to get on the horn
• 1:33:29
  with her because she still wants to know when
• 1:33:31
  this couple hasn't landed yet. So we supposed
• 1:33:34
  to talk before the couple gets here to check
• 1:33:36
  in one more time. she will be in town. My girl
• 1:33:39
  will be in town next weekend. And I would love
• 1:33:43
  to get on the phone and introduce her to you
• 1:33:46
  and start talking about the framework of what
• 1:33:48
  we're doing. Because I'm not kidding you. She
• 1:33:51
  blessed me with last night four properties that
• 1:33:55
  she's looking at already. I'm like, damn, you
• 1:33:57
  ready to go? It sounds like you're ready to go.
• 1:34:00
  So we will chop it up with you, brother. Hey,
• 1:34:04
  now, let's back up first. Right. She's gonna
• 1:34:08
  be in town next week, right? Right. She gets
• 1:34:12
  all that time. Of course. Of course. Amen. Amen.
• 1:34:17
  Of course. The weekend you about to have, bro,
• 1:34:20
  give her all that time. So, but the whole thing
• 1:34:25
  I'm saying is I'm going to tell her about the
• 1:34:29
  conversation that you and I had. Yes. And let
• 1:34:33
  her know when she's ready. You're a phone call
• 1:34:37
  away. She's often a Go -getter and like hey ain't
• 1:34:42
  no time like the present that's one of the things
• 1:34:44
  she stays on my ass about part of the beef with
• 1:34:47
  the energy and the couples is like You need to
• 1:34:50
  be putting that energy towards expanding you
• 1:34:52
  this if you want to you know retire what your
• 1:34:55
  main thing is and grow out what your other things
• 1:34:57
  are quit chasing pussy and start chasing that
• 1:35:02
  that that financial you know Yeah, this might
• 1:35:05
  be an exception to that rule, Demetri, because
• 1:35:08
  you're giving good advice in general. But this
• 1:35:10
  is something that she's already been spearheading.
• 1:35:13
  She's already been actively looking into. So
• 1:35:15
  this might be a connection thing for them. Like,
• 1:35:19
  speaking to you about this project might be some
• 1:35:21
  of that time she's looking for with Trent, you
• 1:35:24
  know? So this might be an outlier. Seeing the
• 1:35:26
  investment of my effort. And also, I just lost
• 1:35:32
  my train of thought. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, back
• 1:35:36
  to it. I'm gonna get you an open invite, invitation
• 1:35:43
  to an exclusive party. It won't come about because
• 1:35:49
  I always get these invites and some I take, some
• 1:35:51
  I don't. But just to get you in there so you
• 1:35:55
  can see how things play out, I will also get
• 1:35:58
  you an invite. Now if you want to leave the bill
• 1:36:01
  on the journey, I will also get her an invite
• 1:36:03
  too. It's Comfort Mary. you don't have to pay
• 1:36:06
  for nothing, but you're way during back. Okay.
• 1:36:09
  Yes, sir. But that's just all about with the
• 1:36:12
  timing. So, like I said, there are some other
• 1:36:17
  pickles that I have, but I'd rather share that
• 1:36:20
  with you off the case. All right. I'll send you
• 1:36:24
  a text message here in a little bit then. No
• 1:36:28
  problem. No problem. Well, no, I just want you
• 1:36:30
  to know that we got you and it's all respect
• 1:36:35
  and trust. I'm sorry, guys, but I'm actually
• 1:36:38
  talking to you guys while I'm sitting in my car,
• 1:36:41
  and I'm just looking at all these fat asses walking
• 1:36:43
  out here in bed, like, man. I mean, like, for
• 1:36:47
  real, dude, like, I need to go put some fucking
• 1:36:50
  jogger pants on and go for a night of jumping
• 1:36:53
  in something. Yo, yo. This motherfucker sounds
• 1:36:59
  like those people that... tell their friends
• 1:37:01
  on like a group chat before they commit a crime.
• 1:37:05
  Like, it's all like Dubeats, he was about to
• 1:37:07
  do something faster, and he told the whole world.
• 1:37:12
  He heard the words. Delete my voice off this
• 1:37:17
  podcast. You all did too, I wasn't here. Man,
• 1:37:24
  but no, it's like, I'm in the bougie ass neighborhood
• 1:37:28
  and. You know, I'm in Florida and it's hot as
• 1:37:31
  fuck. So people go for like late night runs and
• 1:37:34
  jogs and damn it. They didn't make girls like
• 1:37:38
  this when I was a teenager. You don't have to
• 1:37:41
  apologize to us, man. We take second fiddle to
• 1:37:44
  that anytime. By all means, by all means. And
• 1:37:50
  actually, brothers, I'm going to have to dip.
• 1:37:52
  I need to get my ass in the shower. So I'm ready
• 1:37:55
  to go when this couple touches down and I can
• 1:37:58
  meet them at the spot. and start laying this
• 1:38:01
  game. Take a pill. Absolutely. And that sounds
• 1:38:07
  like a good way to end it right there. Priorities,
• 1:38:11
  Stalker T, go ahead and hit the music. Or is
• 1:38:14
  he even up there? We're going to call it the
• 1:38:20
  night. This is from another segment of Farty
• 1:38:25
  and Bullshit with my brothers, Pagan, Demetri,
• 1:38:31
  Mocha. Michael C. Trey, and of course, the nephew
• 1:38:36
  Socrates. And I'm just seeing my male themselves,
• 1:38:39
  Mr. Morgan. Until we speak again, as usual, I'm
• 1:38:44
  wishing all my hot wives and lovely ladies out
• 1:38:47
  there a good morning. And to the brothers out
• 1:38:52
  there, I wish y 'all a good night. All right,
• 1:38:55
  until we chat again. Auf Wiedersehen. Cheers.
• 1:38:58
  Bye bye. Good night, everybody. All right, y
• 1:39:04
  'all, I gotta roll, okay? All right, brothers.
• 1:39:09
  It was great chopping up with y 'all. It was
• 1:39:10
  really great chopping up with y 'all. Trent,
• 1:39:12
  it was great to meet you. I'm on my phone. If
• 1:39:15
  you still there, I didn't get your message, but
• 1:39:17
  I'll get Socrates to just give you my number.