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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the
- 0:09Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron
- 0:14Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome to The Doug Maron Show.
- 0:18Speaker 1: JP Shatrick from the home studio. Jeff Loghuman from his
- 0:22Speaker 1: home studio, and head coach Doug Brons should join us
- 0:25Speaker 1: around five twenty or so, about twenty minutes from right now.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Training camp continues the ramp up period now in the
- 0:32Speaker 1: face two logs, so a lot of running around on
- 0:35Speaker 1: the practice field. They're in helmets, no pads, no eleven
- 0:40Speaker 1: on eleven, work their offense on one field, defense on another.
- 0:44Speaker 1: And I'm curious to ask Doug Moron a little bit
- 0:46Speaker 1: later about that set up so far and how it's going.
- 0:49Speaker 1: But there is actual football like things happening finally, Yeah,
- 0:56Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward to this football team putting
- 0:59Speaker 1: on pads to where then the real learning starts. You know,
- 1:03Speaker 1: we we heard from j Gruden this week and he
- 1:05Speaker 1: talked about how the offense was still in diapers. Well,
- 1:08Speaker 1: I mean that's where you're at when you haven't even
- 1:11Speaker 1: put pads on, and you haven't even gone against a
- 1:13Speaker 1: defense even without pads, you know. So they got a
- 1:17Speaker 1: long way to go as a football team. And that's
- 1:19Speaker 1: just part of the way the new normal is with
- 1:22Speaker 1: the global pandemic. And so far, so good, and and
- 1:27Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. And I think they're
- 1:29Speaker 1: possibly gonna learn a lot of things that they may
- 1:31Speaker 1: carry into future years. And if I was a player,
- 1:35Speaker 1: one of those things that I would love to see
- 1:36Speaker 1: carry in the future years is no preseason games, man,
- 1:41Speaker 1: no preseason games. Yeah, I'm curious if we'll even get
- 1:47Speaker 1: any back. Well, you know, I think that the situation
- 1:52Speaker 1: is very fluid jp uh. And it's gonna be interesting
- 1:56Speaker 1: too to see how every coach in the National Football
- 2:00Speaker 1: League tries to adapt what they feel like their team
- 2:05Speaker 1: needs to get ready for an opener. You know, a
- 2:07Speaker 1: lot of guys have experience of having been a college coach,
- 2:11Speaker 1: like a Doug Marrone. Some guys have come up through
- 2:14Speaker 1: the ranks in college and learned how to be a
- 2:17Speaker 1: college coach and then before coming to the National Football League.
- 2:20Speaker 1: So will they carry some of the principles with them
- 2:23Speaker 1: that they've learned in college to the NFL this year.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Will team scrimmage? I know there's talk that one football
- 2:31Speaker 1: teams talking about having three inter squad scrimmages prior to
- 2:34Speaker 1: the season opener. Will Doug Brown do that? Well? Can
- 2:38Speaker 1: you do that? You know? Are you healthy enough? You know,
- 2:41Speaker 1: are you young enough? I mean, there's a lot of
- 2:44Speaker 1: factors that are going to go into that decision making
- 2:46Speaker 1: process on getting the team ready in a year that
- 2:50Speaker 1: there's nothing normal about. But it's gonna be fun to watch,
- 2:53Speaker 1: that's for sure. But I'm looking forward to the diapers
- 2:57Speaker 1: coming off and the jersey is going on. Yeah, that's
- 3:02Speaker 1: the That's the talk of this football team right now.
- 3:04Speaker 1: It's not just on the offensive side, it's it's everywhere.
- 3:08Speaker 1: The youth of the team and so many rookies around.
- 3:11Speaker 1: But you know, it's not just those guys that are new.
- 3:14Speaker 1: It's the free agents and all these new faces coming
- 3:17Speaker 1: in and even this week all the changes on the
- 3:20Speaker 1: defensive line after some guys went down to injury or
- 3:23Speaker 1: put on the on the reserve list. So you know,
- 3:26Speaker 1: the change is huge for this football team, not just
- 3:29Speaker 1: with the rookies, but throughout the entire roster. There's so
- 3:33Speaker 1: much turnover around here. Well and then uh today Doug
- 3:37Speaker 1: Rone talked about Quincy Williams having a core muscle injury.
- 3:42Speaker 1: So now you add another you know, and he's not
- 3:45Speaker 1: projected to be a starting linebacker, but you're talking about
- 3:49Speaker 1: a young man who showed some really positive things last
- 3:52Speaker 1: year as far as being a striker, being quick and fast,
- 3:57Speaker 1: and it would be I think a valuable backup and
- 3:59Speaker 1: a specially with his speed and his demeanor when he arrives,
- 4:04Speaker 1: I think he would be one of the core nasty
- 4:08Speaker 1: special teams players. Well, now he's hurt, so the defensive
- 4:12Speaker 1: line has obviously been struck significantly, and it's going to
- 4:16Speaker 1: take some time over the next couple of days where
- 4:19Speaker 1: these veteran guys that were acquired to where once they
- 4:23Speaker 1: get through the testing protocols where they're available for the
- 4:26Speaker 1: team to practice. But hopefully by the time that this
- 4:29Speaker 1: team gets the pads and a week or so, you know,
- 4:33Speaker 1: hopefully we have some word on where they are. With
- 4:36Speaker 1: Ronnie Gunner, you know, with this non football illness that
- 4:40Speaker 1: he has, what's the status of that, you know, where's
- 4:43Speaker 1: he at, what's his expected return? You know, because he
- 4:47Speaker 1: was I mean, if you look at it from a
- 4:48Speaker 1: monetary standpoint, JP Showbert and Ronnie Gunner were the two
- 4:54Speaker 1: top defensive free agent acquisitions, because look how they feel
- 4:59Speaker 1: about somebody typically translating the amount of dollars that they
- 5:02Speaker 1: pay them, and they obviously felt very good about these
- 5:05Speaker 1: two guys. The certainly did, and there'll be a big
- 5:09Speaker 1: piece of this team. But one of them is not
- 5:11Speaker 1: available right now in Gunter. And you know, it just
- 5:14Speaker 1: kind of adds to the list of changes on the
- 5:17Speaker 1: defensive line that have happened over the last couple of
- 5:19Speaker 1: years around here, but this is certainly the most dramatic
- 5:23Speaker 1: of them all. Hey, let's let's come back in a moment.
- 5:25Speaker 1: We'll get a little change in schedule this week. Doug
- 5:27Speaker 1: Brown scheduled for five twenty today, so we'll come back
- 5:30Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll get into this defensive line talk
- 5:33Speaker 1: a little bit more and examine some of those changes
- 5:36Speaker 1: over the last week or so. A little later, Gardner
- 5:39Speaker 1: Minshew talk as well. Doug Brown at five twenty about
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- 7:59Speaker 1: That A Maron Show continues right now. Welcome back, JP, Shadrick,
- 8:05Speaker 1: Jeff Logerman, head coach, Doug Maroon coming up about twelve minutes.
- 8:10Speaker 1: He's schedule to join us. The walk through still going
- 8:12Speaker 1: on down at t I A A Bank Field. Glad
- 8:15Speaker 1: you're along with us on this Thursday afternoon. We're in
- 8:19Speaker 1: phase two of preseason. I guess you can call it
- 8:22Speaker 1: training camp, the ramp up period, so helmets, notepads yet,
- 8:26Speaker 1: Offense and defense on separate fields so far. And I'm
- 8:29Speaker 1: out there on the practice field yesterday Logs. We touched
- 8:32Speaker 1: on defensive line. And if you look on the Jaguars roster,
- 8:36Speaker 1: there are fourteen defensive linemen. Some of those guys are
- 8:41Speaker 1: edge players, if you will, but they are listed as
- 8:43Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Um. I look up at one point and
- 8:47Speaker 1: there are only seven defensive linemen in the D line drills.
- 8:51Speaker 1: That's a lot of turnover. Talking about what was the
- 9:00Speaker 1: strength of this football team for the last couple of years,
- 9:04Speaker 1: all of a sudden now has created more question marks
- 9:07Speaker 1: maybe than any other position group that you have. You
- 9:11Speaker 1: have some guys that you feel really good about, though,
- 9:14Speaker 1: in that in that room obviously with Josh Allen, Caleb
- 9:18Speaker 1: and chays On, you obviously feel good about first round pick.
- 9:21Speaker 1: But you're talking about a prospect and you don't have
- 9:24Speaker 1: any history, you don't have anything proven to you that
- 9:27Speaker 1: that he can be a good football player. You've got
- 9:29Speaker 1: to hold out in gock Way, You've got a former
- 9:32Speaker 1: first round pick, and you still have a lot of
- 9:35Speaker 1: questions about in Tavin Bryant. So you had two guys
- 9:41Speaker 1: that opted out because of COVID night team, which is
- 9:44Speaker 1: totally understandable and respect their decision, but these are decisions
- 9:49Speaker 1: that have impacted this football team. And and Doug Brown
- 9:51Speaker 1: was not bashful about it when he talked about in
- 9:54Speaker 1: his press conference and he said, you know, he basically
- 9:58Speaker 1: paraphrase and here said, I'd be stupid to tell you
- 10:01Speaker 1: that I'm not concerned about it, because this cause for concerns.
- 10:05Speaker 1: So the Jaguars did what they thought was the best
- 10:09Speaker 1: thing that they could do, and to go out and
- 10:11Speaker 1: sign a couple of veteran guys. And now they're in
- 10:13Speaker 1: the process of getting through their COVID testing before they're
- 10:16Speaker 1: allowed to be assimilated into the locker room in the program. So, uh,
- 10:22Speaker 1: what can they do? The reality is they're not as
- 10:24Speaker 1: good as the ones that you've lost, you know, because
- 10:27Speaker 1: otherwise you would have signed them instead of the other
- 10:30Speaker 1: guys that you've lost, you know, back when you could
- 10:33Speaker 1: have signed them back in the springtime or whatever. So
- 10:36Speaker 1: uh significant, And it's significant too because you know, you
- 10:40Speaker 1: you have a linebacker group that's shuffling a little bit,
- 10:44Speaker 1: so you you'd like to have some consistency up front
- 10:47Speaker 1: to allow this linebacking group to be at its best.
- 10:50Speaker 1: But that's just the reality and the way that it is,
- 10:52Speaker 1: and that's the way the cards are stacked, and you
- 10:54Speaker 1: just you know, adapt to justin and roll forward and
- 10:59Speaker 1: in lots of of all times for this kind of
- 11:01Speaker 1: thing to happen, it's when the Jaguars defense is trying
- 11:04Speaker 1: to figure out how to stop the running game. They
- 11:06Speaker 1: couldn't do it a lot last year. They had some,
- 11:09Speaker 1: certainly in the second half of the season, real issues
- 11:11Speaker 1: stopping the run against teams, and that is priority number one.
- 11:16Speaker 1: We heard Josh Allen say, when you have so many
- 11:18Speaker 1: new faces and new places, it leaves a lot of
- 11:21Speaker 1: gaps that could be unaccounted for. Unfortunately, well, you're right,
- 11:26Speaker 1: and that it's it's gonna take some time, i think,
- 11:29Speaker 1: for for this defense to gel and and to make
- 11:32Speaker 1: sure that everything is where it needs to be. But
- 11:35Speaker 1: the good thing is is that stopping the run I've
- 11:38Speaker 1: always I've always believed us believe that stopping the run
- 11:42Speaker 1: is not necessarily a talent issue as it is a
- 11:46Speaker 1: want to and an awareness issue. And because I played
- 11:51Speaker 1: on some football teams with the New York Jets JP
- 11:53Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest here, we weren't that good.
- 11:57Speaker 1: But if you looked at our rankings and stopping the
- 12:00Speaker 1: on and Pete Carroll is our defensive coordinator, we were
- 12:03Speaker 1: in the top ten consistently year and in year out,
- 12:06Speaker 1: and did we have a ton of talent note, but
- 12:09Speaker 1: we were well coached, we played with awareness and uh
- 12:14Speaker 1: and we knew that it was a requirement for us
- 12:15Speaker 1: to have a chance. So um, I think it's this
- 12:19Speaker 1: team can get better against the run. But there are
- 12:23Speaker 1: some players that have to step up significantly. Tavan Bryan
- 12:26Speaker 1: has to step up significantly. Joe Schoberg has to be
- 12:30Speaker 1: able to step up. Somebody needs to step up at
- 12:33Speaker 1: the nose tackle position. Don Tevious Russell's now on I R.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Who is a possibility of battling for playing time with
- 12:40Speaker 1: Avery Jones. You lost Al Woods who opted out. So
- 12:44Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks with this defense, and
- 12:46Speaker 1: hopefully somebody will step up and rose to the occasion
- 12:50Speaker 1: and take advantage of an opportunity. Let's come back in
- 12:54Speaker 1: a moment, we'll discuss Gardner Minshew a bit and a
- 12:58Speaker 1: different type of few and going into a trading camp
- 13:01Speaker 1: for him for the first time in a long time.
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- 15:20Speaker 1: A Welcome back to the Hannonia Autos dot Com studio.
- 15:39Speaker 1: That Doug Moron show continues right now if he shattick
- 15:49Speaker 1: from the home studio, Jeff Lagerman from his home studio,
- 15:53Speaker 1: and Doug Moron coming up shortly when the team gets
- 15:56Speaker 1: off the practice field from walk through Gardner min Shoe
- 16:00Speaker 1: spoken again in this week logs. You know, this is
- 16:03Speaker 1: a different feeling camp for Gardner. It's the first time
- 16:08Speaker 1: he said since high school that he has been the
- 16:10Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And knowing that going into training camp because
- 16:14Speaker 1: of all the changes he had in college, every new
- 16:17Speaker 1: place he went, even Washington State, he wasn't really um
- 16:20Speaker 1: you know, he was a transfer grand transfer coming in
- 16:23Speaker 1: late so it wasn't like he had all off season
- 16:26Speaker 1: as the starting quarterback. This is a different feel for Gardner,
- 16:29Speaker 1: but it's pretty good. But I'm sure, well it's it's
- 16:32Speaker 1: a great opportunity. But I mean, are you surprised though?
- 16:35Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the reality about Gardner, Minshew, is his
- 16:39Speaker 1: measurables don't measure up to what you'd like to say
- 16:43Speaker 1: is the the ideal measurables for a quarterback. He's not
- 16:47Speaker 1: six ft three or six ft four, and he doesn't
- 16:50Speaker 1: have a cannon arm, you know, but he's built more
- 16:54Speaker 1: like a fullback. You know. It's shorter and stature a compact.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Uh So, I mean, can you understand maybe why that
- 17:04Speaker 1: he's never been the proclaimed starter. Sure, but all he's
- 17:09Speaker 1: done in his travels has been to be a good
- 17:12Speaker 1: player at quarterback and I and I gotta admit, I
- 17:15Speaker 1: mean last year when he came in, I said, is
- 17:18Speaker 1: that guy fullback? And somebody said no, no no, no, that's
- 17:22Speaker 1: the late round pick quarterback that they got. And I'm like, ah,
- 17:26Speaker 1: he looks like a fullback. But I mean the reality
- 17:29Speaker 1: is that's what he looked like. And he didn't look
- 17:31Speaker 1: very good in training camp last year. Um, but boy,
- 17:36Speaker 1: when he stepped in from the moment he stepped in
- 17:39Speaker 1: when the injury happened against Kansas City Gardner, Minshew looked
- 17:44Speaker 1: fantastic and and he had some moments that were just unbelievable.
- 17:47Speaker 1: He's got a lot of improvement to accomplish, though. Hey,
- 17:52Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment. Head coach Doug Marone
- 17:54Speaker 1: will join us in just a moment. This is the
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- 20:22Speaker 1: I a A Bank field. Doug, you just came off
- 20:24Speaker 1: the field from a walkthrough, Is that right? That's correct
- 20:28Speaker 1: that it just came off the field and they shuffle
- 20:31Speaker 1: me right in here and here we go. You're gonna
- 20:38Speaker 1: be glad to finally have a practice where offense and
- 20:42Speaker 1: defense goes against one another. And for a lot of
- 20:45Speaker 1: listeners out there, when when does that happen for you
- 20:49Speaker 1: and your football team with this whole acclamation period, Well,
- 20:56Speaker 1: really for us, it probably starts. I look at as
- 20:58Speaker 1: it's starting on August eventeen. Um, you know that's when
- 21:01Speaker 1: the pads come on, um, you know, because you get
- 21:05Speaker 1: a little worried, and you know everyone's kind of getting
- 21:07Speaker 1: you know, this is a ramp up period, so everyone's
- 21:09Speaker 1: kind of getting ramped up, and you know we're doing
- 21:12Speaker 1: everything we need to do to make sure we can
- 21:13Speaker 1: go out there and play uh you know, our practice
- 21:17Speaker 1: for a full practice. But you know, I'm starting to
- 21:19Speaker 1: get competitive as you can see the juices that are
- 21:22Speaker 1: starting to go so um. You know, I think the
- 21:24Speaker 1: seventeenth when you when you come out there and you're
- 21:27Speaker 1: you know, you're wearing pads and you're protected. Um, then
- 21:30Speaker 1: I think we'll start going and even that period, we're
- 21:32Speaker 1: just gonna you know, we'll work our way up. But
- 21:34Speaker 1: at least that starts to compact. That's when I always think.
- 21:36Speaker 1: That's to me when it when it really started, Doug,
- 21:40Speaker 1: I was thinking, with the defensive line situation, I might
- 21:43Speaker 1: have a few snaps in me. You know, the price
- 21:46Speaker 1: is right, I might be available. Yeah, that's that's that's
- 21:50Speaker 1: where that's where you're gonna be in trouble. You know
- 21:52Speaker 1: what I'm saying with they're gonna ask for too much.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Oh that is some some issues there with injuries and
- 22:07Speaker 1: then Also, you've got some guys that opted out. I mean,
- 22:11Speaker 1: that's a position group I know you talked about earlier
- 22:13Speaker 1: this week, and that you know, it's it's it's called
- 22:15Speaker 1: for concern the boy. I'm sure that you're sitting there going, Okay,
- 22:19Speaker 1: We've we've got a little bit of time here, and
- 22:21Speaker 1: when we get to the seventeenth we put pads on.
- 22:23Speaker 1: It be nice to have a group that's a little
- 22:25Speaker 1: bit more fortified than where they're at right now. Yeah,
- 22:29Speaker 1: I just think it's you know, we've got to get
- 22:31Speaker 1: that group settled in. Um, you know, to the guys
- 22:33Speaker 1: that we have, I feel comfortable that you know, we
- 22:37Speaker 1: have the pass rushers, you know in that group with
- 22:41Speaker 1: you know, obviously with Josh and Caleban and you know, uh,
- 22:45Speaker 1: smooth going you know, he did a good job last
- 22:47Speaker 1: year pass rushing from the inside, and a couple of
- 22:49Speaker 1: other guys that we feel, Um, you know, Lynch has
- 22:52Speaker 1: some length and it's done a nice job. And then
- 22:55Speaker 1: we've got guys that we talked about before. I think, um,
- 22:58Speaker 1: you know, how we're gonna get to the third down,
- 23:00Speaker 1: how we're gonna get teams to throw well, you know,
- 23:03Speaker 1: we've got to be able to stop the run. So
- 23:04Speaker 1: we got some big bodies in there, and um, you know,
- 23:07Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes during camp. I think that
- 23:09Speaker 1: you know, you're always continuing if if we feel you know,
- 23:12Speaker 1: Dave and I, if we look at it and we
- 23:14Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it's not good enough there, then
- 23:16Speaker 1: you know we'll look to continue to keep upgrading. I
- 23:19Speaker 1: think we did a good job, um, considering the atmosphere
- 23:23Speaker 1: or the time that we're in. Now that you know,
- 23:25Speaker 1: we're able to get some players and then we're still
- 23:27Speaker 1: working on some players, talking to some guys to come
- 23:29Speaker 1: into that position and help them just a little bit, Doug,
- 23:37Speaker 1: Sorry j P. And if you get into the season
- 23:41Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you have an issue with
- 23:44Speaker 1: with COVID or injuries or something of that nature. In
- 23:47Speaker 1: the way the league that has expanded the practice squad
- 23:50Speaker 1: to go all the way to six team, would you
- 23:52Speaker 1: like to even see that, maybe expand a little bit
- 23:55Speaker 1: more to go to let's say twenty just out of
- 23:59Speaker 1: convenience us and maybe necessity. Um, I don't know if
- 24:05Speaker 1: convenience would be the right word to to. You know,
- 24:08Speaker 1: they get them to make a move, you know, the
- 24:10Speaker 1: league and the union to do something like that, you know,
- 24:13Speaker 1: being on the outside. I I've always thought that, UM,
- 24:17Speaker 1: you know, the more jobs that you can create, you know,
- 24:20Speaker 1: the better it is. I think that, UM, you know,
- 24:23Speaker 1: I I've always thought you know, today I got a
- 24:26Speaker 1: question about the fullback position, and um, Gee for Nett
- 24:31Speaker 1: asked me a question. I was trying to explain it to,
- 24:33Speaker 1: you know, kind of just the philosophy of, you know,
- 24:36Speaker 1: how we look at the position. If it's the you know,
- 24:38Speaker 1: the undersized offensive guard, UM, that's gonna give you that isolation. Look, UM,
- 24:46Speaker 1: short yardage goal line, but you know, can't help you
- 24:48Speaker 1: in the passing game, or it's not gonna be able
- 24:50Speaker 1: to be on teams. It's very difficult to address that player,
- 24:55Speaker 1: UM on game day because there's a chance that he
- 24:58Speaker 1: may only get two or three snaps. You know, there's
- 25:01Speaker 1: about twelve or sixteen snaps a year average goal line
- 25:03Speaker 1: personnel goal line snaps depending upon you know, how you
- 25:07Speaker 1: want to attack a team in short yardage. UM, maybe
- 25:11Speaker 1: coming out of the end zone. You know, if you're
- 25:12Speaker 1: on the one yard line, you want to put them
- 25:14Speaker 1: in there. But if that's what you're doing, you're you're
- 25:17Speaker 1: really rolling the dice where you can guarantee players um
- 25:21Speaker 1: a position. And I was thinking to myself, you know,
- 25:24Speaker 1: in college, you know you've got pretty much everyone available,
- 25:27Speaker 1: so you can have those guys to do that. And
- 25:30Speaker 1: I think that, you know, if the roster did get expanded, um,
- 25:34Speaker 1: you know, or the game day roster was expanded and
- 25:37Speaker 1: your team roster was expanded, you know, I think that
- 25:40Speaker 1: you know, you can see more of that, whereas right
- 25:42Speaker 1: now we're trying to find, uh, you know, either that
- 25:45Speaker 1: player as as a true fullback that can do all
- 25:47Speaker 1: those things, or you know, you look to those you know,
- 25:50Speaker 1: those those tight end positions to see what they can do.
- 25:53Speaker 1: But you know you're giving up something and everything that
- 25:56Speaker 1: you do. You know, most of the time you put
- 25:58Speaker 1: the tight end fact that are a little bit it longer,
- 26:01Speaker 1: um you know, and and and the insertion and the
- 26:04Speaker 1: isolation blocks are a little bit tougher. But maybe you
- 26:06Speaker 1: get more into passing, you you know, you get bigger targets.
- 26:09Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, if you're asking me
- 26:12Speaker 1: if I would be for it, I'm always for more
- 26:14Speaker 1: jobs than expanding it. But I don't know the uh,
- 26:18Speaker 1: you know, the details of how it's gotten to this,
- 26:21Speaker 1: you know, and competitive advantage stuff. I know you you
- 26:25Speaker 1: you hold on. You know they went with the extra
- 26:28Speaker 1: lineman this year, which I think is good because I
- 26:30Speaker 1: haven't been a line coach and being a head coach
- 26:32Speaker 1: making those decisions and just stressing seven offensive line in
- 26:35Speaker 1: the game. Uh, you know, you're you're you're holding on
- 26:38Speaker 1: by the seat of your pants when when someone gets hurt, so, um,
- 26:42Speaker 1: you know certain positions. I think that you know it could.
- 26:45Speaker 1: But again it's I don't spend a lot of time
- 26:47Speaker 1: on and and no one's wait a minute, what should
- 26:51Speaker 1: we expand the roster? Oh? Absolutely yeah. I don't get
- 26:55Speaker 1: a lot of I don't get a lot of those
- 26:57Speaker 1: uh calls asking my opinion on that. Let's come back
- 27:02Speaker 1: in a moment. Plenty more ahead with head coach Doug Marron.
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- 29:34Speaker 1: Moron Show continues right now. Welcome back J P. Shatrick,
- 29:40Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman and head coach Doug Moron on The Doug
- 29:43Speaker 1: Moron Show. Let's let's talk a little offensive line coach.
- 29:47Speaker 1: You know Cam Robinson spoke with the media this week
- 29:50Speaker 1: and you know this time last year he wasn't cleared
- 29:54Speaker 1: yet and then it took him a few games to
- 29:56Speaker 1: get on the field. He was banged up still then
- 30:00Speaker 1: and he said he didn't really feel right until the
- 30:04Speaker 1: last few games of the season last year, night and day.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Now to how he feels, How does he look to you?
- 30:10Speaker 1: So far? As you always say, I know they're in
- 30:13Speaker 1: pajamas right now. But what can you tell us about
- 30:16Speaker 1: Cam Robinson and his off season to get to this point? Yeah,
- 30:20Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, it's always tough when
- 30:22Speaker 1: a player, especially a young player, it comes off the season. Uh,
- 30:26Speaker 1: then he's injured, and that whole off season is really
- 30:29Speaker 1: dedicated to trying to get your strength back, trying to
- 30:32Speaker 1: get um, your body back to a point where you
- 30:36Speaker 1: can actually start getting on the field. And a thing
- 30:38Speaker 1: as a young player, the one point of development that
- 30:40Speaker 1: you miss is you know, it's a technique part of it. So, um,
- 30:44Speaker 1: I think you know, Cam got thrown in there, and
- 30:47Speaker 1: when you do that, you're just at a point where
- 30:49Speaker 1: you're just trying to survive. And that's not not a
- 30:51Speaker 1: good way to play this game. And um, you're not
- 30:54Speaker 1: gonna look very good when you're trying to do that.
- 30:56Speaker 1: And at times, you know Cam didn't. But I think
- 30:58Speaker 1: that you know, was on a you know, he was
- 31:02Speaker 1: on a mission. He did a hell of a job
- 31:05Speaker 1: this offseason. You know, lifting, he came in, he's he's
- 31:09Speaker 1: big and athletic right now. I mean he looks good.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Um as a bounced to his staff, he's, Uh, you know,
- 31:15Speaker 1: you can see a difference from that standpoint. But I
- 31:18Speaker 1: think for me, the most important part what I've seen
- 31:20Speaker 1: these last two days, and you can't tell until the
- 31:22Speaker 1: pets come on, is that from a technical standpoint, Um,
- 31:26Speaker 1: he's done a lot of work and it shows. I mean,
- 31:29Speaker 1: his footwork is is much improved than it was from
- 31:32Speaker 1: a year ago, which is gonna should carry over into
- 31:36Speaker 1: make him a better player. And um, you know, we
- 31:38Speaker 1: still got a lot of work to do. We still
- 31:40Speaker 1: got a lot of days left, and you know, it's
- 31:42Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to see how he develops over the
- 31:44Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Well, j T, I think he
- 31:47Speaker 1: got the terminology wrong. They're not in pajamas, they're in diapers.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Recording to Coach crewd so Doug with the coach crewden is.
- 31:56Speaker 1: An interesting thought on on his scheme is that how
- 32:00Speaker 1: will the demands on the offensive line be different this
- 32:04Speaker 1: year as opposed to in year's past, Because everybody likes
- 32:08Speaker 1: to run something different when they're the offensive coordinator. Will
- 32:12Speaker 1: it be different for the offensive line this year? I
- 32:16Speaker 1: think I think offensively it's gonna be different. Um, I
- 32:20Speaker 1: think that you know, we've got some players now that
- 32:23Speaker 1: we feel, Um, we can we can do some more
- 32:27Speaker 1: or potentially be able to do some more things from
- 32:29Speaker 1: a matchup standpoint. Um, So I feel comfortable with that.
- 32:34Speaker 1: I think it's the same the same pressure on the line,
- 32:38Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, most of the time is
- 32:40Speaker 1: dictated by you know, what what you back and do
- 32:43Speaker 1: in the running game and as certain players that everyone runs.
- 32:46Speaker 1: But then you get to what are you going to
- 32:48Speaker 1: rely on? A lot of it's a combination of how
- 32:50Speaker 1: you've built your line and how you build you know,
- 32:53Speaker 1: you're you're running back, uh, you know, backfield, so you
- 32:57Speaker 1: know we've we've got some good elements back there. Um,
- 33:00Speaker 1: all of our running backs have been really doing a
- 33:02Speaker 1: heck of a job. Um. And I think our offensive
- 33:06Speaker 1: line from what I've seen again is that i've seen, uh,
- 33:11Speaker 1: the group that's gotten bigger, a group that's gotten stronger,
- 33:14Speaker 1: more explosive. But you can see that just on you know, again,
- 33:18Speaker 1: it's not a moving target. It's an apparatus, you know,
- 33:21Speaker 1: whether it's a bag or whether it's a sled. But
- 33:24Speaker 1: it's encouraging to see. Uh, the more I guess type
- 33:29Speaker 1: of hand explosion or explosion that was showing in athleticism,
- 33:33Speaker 1: I think that probably the biggest thing in this camp
- 33:35Speaker 1: that I've noticed what the line is, you know, not
- 33:38Speaker 1: only be gotten bigger, but they look, you know, more
- 33:40Speaker 1: athletic than they have in the past. And you know
- 33:42Speaker 1: it's not a secret. You know, we've challenged them right
- 33:45Speaker 1: after the season, UM and the and they know it,
- 33:48Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they've been doing everything they can
- 33:51Speaker 1: to make sure they're ready. So I'm I'm I'm excited
- 33:53Speaker 1: to see this group go out there and compete. Uh.
- 33:56Speaker 1: They know that there's a lot of expectation out of
- 33:59Speaker 1: that group. They have a lot of expectation out of themselves.
- 34:02Speaker 1: So I think they're in a in a good place
- 34:04Speaker 1: right now. I think we have to stay healthy, keep
- 34:06Speaker 1: working UM and then you know, see what happens when
- 34:10Speaker 1: we get on that field. On the side of that
- 34:15Speaker 1: line though, Doug is the tight end position, of course,
- 34:18Speaker 1: and you have your full complement of tight ends on
- 34:20Speaker 1: the field now. James O'Shaughnessy came off the reserve list,
- 34:23Speaker 1: so he's out there running around with you. The same
- 34:26Speaker 1: idea here. You won't really know until you get to UM.
- 34:30Speaker 1: You know, do eleven on eleven work and see them
- 34:32Speaker 1: against somebody. But you have to be happy they're all
- 34:36Speaker 1: out there, first of all, and then confident in what
- 34:39Speaker 1: this group can do at tight end, because over the
- 34:41Speaker 1: years around here has been a little difficult to have
- 34:44Speaker 1: consistency at that position. Absolutely, and and I know from
- 34:49Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint, you know when you talk about, hey,
- 34:52Speaker 1: how's it going to be different and what goes on?
- 34:54Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing is that goes
- 34:55Speaker 1: back to your matchups and what do you have. And
- 34:57Speaker 1: I think you know, you look around the league and
- 34:59Speaker 1: you look the see you know, team's got to make decisions.
- 35:01Speaker 1: You know, when you play with a y tight end
- 35:04Speaker 1: and now you have this f tight end, you know
- 35:06Speaker 1: they're gonna play in nicol, they're gonna play you in bass,
- 35:09Speaker 1: and you know, so now all of a sudden it
- 35:11Speaker 1: starts to become a little bit more of a chess game,
- 35:13Speaker 1: a little bit more of a matchup. You know, the
- 35:16Speaker 1: three really veteran players that we have, or really two
- 35:20Speaker 1: veteran players and one second year player at at the
- 35:23Speaker 1: one position is uh. You know, we brought in Tyler Eiffer,
- 35:27Speaker 1: and you know, he's coming off kind of like Cam
- 35:29Speaker 1: except for you know, he played obviously quite a bit
- 35:32Speaker 1: before that but hasn't recently had a healthy off season. Well,
- 35:37Speaker 1: this was this first off season he's come in, UM
- 35:40Speaker 1: and it's done everything we expected him doing and has
- 35:43Speaker 1: looked well. And then obviously Josh had that setback last year.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, I think, you know a lot of times
- 35:49Speaker 1: you look at these guys when I first walked into
- 35:51Speaker 1: building and either either you get excited or you're like, oh,
- 35:54Speaker 1: you know, but he walked in and and and he's bigger,
- 35:57Speaker 1: he's stronger. Um, he's good. I think a guy like
- 36:01Speaker 1: Tyler helps him. And James just came off a p
- 36:03Speaker 1: U p UM. I think all these guys can help
- 36:06Speaker 1: us at at either position at the y of the
- 36:08Speaker 1: f and then you know, you look at the tight
- 36:11Speaker 1: end positions. Charlotte Jones with a big kid got in
- 36:13Speaker 1: a little bit last year. We'll see what he can do.
- 36:15Speaker 1: But he's strong and he's powerful. Uh. And then he's
- 36:18Speaker 1: two young guys that we you know, one guy we
- 36:21Speaker 1: drafted and the other guy we you know, have free agency.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Have done a nice job. So you know, it's gonna
- 36:26Speaker 1: be an interesting UM competition. It's gonna be interesting to see, uh,
- 36:32Speaker 1: you know, what they can do from a standpoint where
- 36:34Speaker 1: we do do one on one when we and and
- 36:36Speaker 1: how much every one of those guys can do. I
- 36:39Speaker 1: don't think that we can just label a guy and say, um,
- 36:42Speaker 1: you know he can't do this. I think you know
- 36:45Speaker 1: right now, all those players, even even you know, Tyler,
- 36:48Speaker 1: Josh and James have all played you know why and
- 36:51Speaker 1: and and it blocked that time. Then it blocked. Well,
- 36:53Speaker 1: so um, it's gonna be. It's it's it's a different
- 36:57Speaker 1: it's a different atmosphere because of the you know, how
- 37:00Speaker 1: we feel about that group. I thought that Jay Gruden
- 37:04Speaker 1: did a great job of really describing how that that
- 37:07Speaker 1: position can really impact and really stress a defense. When
- 37:11Speaker 1: you can find that guy that can fill all the
- 37:15Speaker 1: roles that tight ends need to fill and you get
- 37:17Speaker 1: that in one package. It's it's hard to find, though,
- 37:20Speaker 1: isn't it done? Yeah? I think I think today is
- 37:23Speaker 1: a great illustration of that. I think that you know,
- 37:26Speaker 1: San Francisco and Kansas City kind of locked those guys
- 37:29Speaker 1: up and you know, given them, you know, good contracts,
- 37:32Speaker 1: and I think that shows you know, it goes to
- 37:35Speaker 1: show you that you know, you have guys like Kittle,
- 37:37Speaker 1: you have guys like Kelsey you know, they're they're outstanding
- 37:39Speaker 1: football players and they're being compensated for it, and there's
- 37:42Speaker 1: not you know, many guys at that position that that
- 37:45Speaker 1: have the ability to do that. So you know, when
- 37:47Speaker 1: you get someone like that, you're gonna try to keep them.
- 37:49Speaker 1: And like I said before, those it's it's you know,
- 37:52Speaker 1: you can bracket those players, you can put different players
- 37:55Speaker 1: on them, but you know it's you're not usually depending
- 37:59Speaker 1: on who it is. You know, I was firsthand saw
- 38:02Speaker 1: how difficult it was being in the a f C
- 38:05Speaker 1: East when Gronkowski is with in New England. You know,
- 38:08Speaker 1: you those defensive guys were up all night trying to
- 38:11Speaker 1: figure out the different matchups, the different bracket coverages. And eventually,
- 38:15Speaker 1: you know, when you're moving those guys around, you're gonna
- 38:17Speaker 1: get the matchup you want. And you got the quarterback
- 38:19Speaker 1: that can deliver the ball and the guy that can
- 38:21Speaker 1: make the play. They're gonna make big plays. Let's come
- 38:25Speaker 1: back in a moment. One final segment with head coach
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- 41:56Speaker 1: the first time to get a firsthand look at what's
- 41:59Speaker 1: going on, and I found it interesting, just the distancing procedure.
- 42:04Speaker 1: Everybody has their own you know, water bottle, It gets
- 42:07Speaker 1: thrown to them, individual bottles, individual towels, all that, and
- 42:11Speaker 1: then after practice, I see one of the equipment guys.
- 42:15Speaker 1: Jeff de Lucas sprang down with sanitizer all the pads
- 42:19Speaker 1: and everything, and it seems to have paid off not
- 42:21Speaker 1: only here but around the league coach when less than
- 42:24Speaker 1: one per cent of the tests have come back positive
- 42:27Speaker 1: since the teams have arrived in camp this year, so
- 42:32Speaker 1: there's got to be a pretty high confidence level and
- 42:34Speaker 1: the testing and the protocol, at least, I'm sure there
- 42:38Speaker 1: is that it's working so far well. I think, you know,
- 42:41Speaker 1: obviously it's a fluid situation. I think it's something that
- 42:44Speaker 1: you know, you're continually, you know, educating yourself. I get
- 42:47Speaker 1: a lot of questions, you know, how many days or
- 42:49Speaker 1: you know, do you talk about it with your team?
- 42:51Speaker 1: And I would say, you know every day where you
- 42:53Speaker 1: know we're touching on it, because says, you know, we're
- 42:55Speaker 1: learning things, we're going through it. Um. You know. Here
- 42:58Speaker 1: it's like I said, I had aversation with my brother
- 43:00Speaker 1: in law, was an electric cardiologist, and I was like,
- 43:03Speaker 1: you know, it's so different, you know what I mean.
- 43:04Speaker 1: It's like almost like you you feel like you're in
- 43:07Speaker 1: a hospital, how sanitary everything is and you have crews
- 43:10Speaker 1: coming in. He's like, it's probably more sanitary than the
- 43:12Speaker 1: hospital and he may he may be right, and you know,
- 43:16Speaker 1: making sure that you're doing all the right things and
- 43:17Speaker 1: taking care of the players, and you know, it was interesting.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Um and you know, we have this ramp up period
- 43:23Speaker 1: and everything, so one and Jeff would appreciate this. One
- 43:25Speaker 1: of the players goes, he said something like, you know, hey,
- 43:29Speaker 1: you know training camp is and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 43:33Speaker 1: Do not do not call this training it's you know,
- 43:36Speaker 1: it's great for all the you know, it's disrespectful for
- 43:40Speaker 1: all the players that have been through training camp. You know,
- 43:45Speaker 1: this is different. I understand, but let's not use the
- 43:47Speaker 1: word training camp right now, you know, because but it's actually, um,
- 43:54Speaker 1: I have learned the one thing and and and again
- 43:56Speaker 1: everyone's doing a great job players that everyone and they'll
- 43:59Speaker 1: be there'll be things that we've got to look out
- 44:02Speaker 1: for and it would be things coming down the road
- 44:04Speaker 1: and we've got to we understand that, you know that
- 44:07Speaker 1: we might have to make adjustments. And it's good because
- 44:09Speaker 1: adjustment means that we're just trying to keep everybody safe.
- 44:12Speaker 1: But um, I think the one thing that's helped us
- 44:14Speaker 1: with this ramp up period a lot of times, you know,
- 44:16Speaker 1: we come into camp and everyone knows the weather here
- 44:18Speaker 1: and we just throw those players right out there, and
- 44:21Speaker 1: you know, we try to push them and get them
- 44:23Speaker 1: and get them in shape quickly, and you know, next thing,
- 44:26Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you know, you're watching the weights
- 44:29Speaker 1: every day and a drop in ten eleven pounds and
- 44:32Speaker 1: you know, I VS come into play where we haven't
- 44:34Speaker 1: you know, had any of that yet. And I think
- 44:37Speaker 1: from this from the standpoint of getting our team acclimated
- 44:39Speaker 1: to the heat down here, UM, I'm excited about it
- 44:43Speaker 1: because I think, you know, it's a much better, probably
- 44:47Speaker 1: a much smarter way to accliman a team, and that
- 44:51Speaker 1: has to you know, continually practice and and this, uh,
- 44:55Speaker 1: in this type of weather. Yeah, I'm glad that that
- 44:59Speaker 1: you mentioned that, Doug, because earlier when we were talking
- 45:02Speaker 1: with JP, he mentioned training camp. I said, wait a minute, JP,
- 45:06Speaker 1: I don't think i'd quite called this a training camp yet,
- 45:09Speaker 1: but uh, and I don't know if it will ever
- 45:12Speaker 1: reach the point to where it's a training camp. But
- 45:15Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting listening to Joe Schobert's press
- 45:19Speaker 1: conference and he talked about acclimating and he did mention
- 45:23Speaker 1: that he had never experienced heat like this before. So, uh,
- 45:28Speaker 1: what a great way to be able to acclimate when
- 45:31Speaker 1: you're not in two days and you're not getting thrown
- 45:33Speaker 1: right out there in paths though, It's got to be
- 45:35Speaker 1: kind of nice. If I had that, I might have
- 45:37Speaker 1: played another year. Yeah, I was thinking. I was thinking myself, like, Okay,
- 45:43Speaker 1: so we're allowed which is tough to do. You're allowed
- 45:45Speaker 1: to get fourteen padded practices in. I'm thinking in the beginning,
- 45:50Speaker 1: we had fourteen day to practice in that first week,
- 45:53Speaker 1: you know, Fan, I mean with the padded practices to
- 45:56Speaker 1: a day, both in pads. I mean, you know, we
- 45:58Speaker 1: would have been we would have been done. What about
- 46:00Speaker 1: five more weeks left the camp? More weeks left the
- 46:02Speaker 1: camp back on? You know, we played all those preseason games.
- 46:05Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think it's good. I
- 46:07Speaker 1: think you know, it's uh, it's a without the preseason games.
- 46:11Speaker 1: It gives you a chance to pick and choose, you know,
- 46:14Speaker 1: where where you want to go and get you know,
- 46:17Speaker 1: your live work in. Because I'm a firm believer that
- 46:20Speaker 1: you need some of that. Um you know, you can
- 46:22Speaker 1: control things a little bit A lot of times, like
- 46:26Speaker 1: I said, when you get in the preseason, you know,
- 46:28Speaker 1: you worry about guys being exposed, especially a quarterback position. Um,
- 46:33Speaker 1: you know, if someone can come through, someone can blow
- 46:35Speaker 1: it assignment. Uh, those things can happen. So there's a
- 46:39Speaker 1: lot of things that I think we can take advantage of.
- 46:42Speaker 1: I think the one thing that that I keep trying
- 46:44Speaker 1: to tell the coaches haven't experienced this before, is you know,
- 46:47Speaker 1: let's make sure we change the matchups and who the
- 46:49Speaker 1: guys are going against, and and let's see them go
- 46:51Speaker 1: against different type of guys, because you know, during the year,
- 46:55Speaker 1: you're you're gonna face different types of players, whether you
- 46:58Speaker 1: know they're big and strong or they're you know, maybe smaller,
- 47:03Speaker 1: you know, and faster or quicker or explosive. You know,
- 47:06Speaker 1: So we want to make sure that when we're evaluating everyone,
- 47:09Speaker 1: you know that we're seeing them, um, you know, mixing them,
- 47:12Speaker 1: mixing them up a little bit. We want to be
- 47:13Speaker 1: able to do that early because you know, basically at
- 47:16Speaker 1: the end, you want to get this team together and
- 47:18Speaker 1: really start working and creating that continuity. Coach, great stuff.
- 47:24Speaker 1: As always, We'll see a practice tomorrow and we'll talk
- 47:28Speaker 1: to you again next week, all right, Thank you JP,
- 47:31Speaker 1: Thank you Jeff. There he is head coach Doug Bron
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- 51:23Speaker 1: a bank field after the Jaguars walked through, and you know,
- 51:27Speaker 1: if the walk through was outside right now, they'd be
- 51:31Speaker 1: soaking wet at least, you know, I'm not too far
- 51:33Speaker 1: away from the stadium your logs and the bottom is
- 51:36Speaker 1: dropped out yet again. Um, you know, I found it
- 51:39Speaker 1: interesting there the thought with Doug Brown discussing this is
- 51:44Speaker 1: not trading camp. They're not even in that mindset yet.
- 51:48Speaker 1: They're still on the ramp up. There's a lot of stretching,
- 51:51Speaker 1: there's a lot of drill work done, and then at
- 51:54Speaker 1: the end there's conditioning. The last twenty minute period today
- 51:59Speaker 1: was all can isstioning, running sprints, doing that, and it's
- 52:03Speaker 1: kind of where they are right now. Yeah, That's why
- 52:06Speaker 1: I was kind of laughing earlier on we were we
- 52:09Speaker 1: had a graphic of a training camp and I'm going,
- 52:12Speaker 1: wait a minute, I don't know if it's i'd call
- 52:14Speaker 1: it training camp, but uh but nonetheless it it's the
- 52:19Speaker 1: version of training camp, that's what it is. But you know,
- 52:23Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this team and where I
- 52:25Speaker 1: I think where for me as an analyst, where you
- 52:28Speaker 1: can really start to judge people is when they put
- 52:32Speaker 1: the pads on. I mean, there are opportunities to evaluate
- 52:36Speaker 1: how guys study, how guys work, how they blend in
- 52:41Speaker 1: with their teammates, how they lead, how they may not
- 52:44Speaker 1: leave u There's a lot of different things that you
- 52:47Speaker 1: can look at from that standpoint. But the true evaluation
- 52:51Speaker 1: begins when the pads come on, and you can answer
- 52:54Speaker 1: the question or begin to answer the question, can this
- 52:58Speaker 1: guy play football? And football is played with pads, It's
- 53:02Speaker 1: not played in diapers or underwear Olympics. There's so many
- 53:05Speaker 1: different terms that we have for where they're at right
- 53:08Speaker 1: now in this phase. But when the pads come on,
- 53:12Speaker 1: that's when the evaluation, the series evaluation begins. And here's
- 53:15Speaker 1: the other question. You're gonna miss a little bit of
- 53:18Speaker 1: a component of that this year, you know, because the
- 53:21Speaker 1: evaluation historically has always started when the pads come on.
- 53:25Speaker 1: And then also when the lights turn on and the
- 53:28Speaker 1: pads are on, it's another step in the evaluation process.
- 53:32Speaker 1: Can guys raise their level of play when it comes
- 53:35Speaker 1: to kick off time in a game situation? The Jaguars
- 53:39Speaker 1: aren't going to have that evaluation to be able to
- 53:42Speaker 1: lean on this year. So there's gonna be a lot
- 53:44Speaker 1: of decisions that are made based on faith and believe
- 53:50Speaker 1: and what's scouting information they got on these players and
- 53:56Speaker 1: not necessarily proven factual data that they evaluated with their
- 54:02Speaker 1: eyes by watching players and multiple practices and multiple game situations.
- 54:09Speaker 1: Those padded practice has become also important to to get
- 54:13Speaker 1: reps as as you said, obviously, the opportunities are fewer
- 54:16Speaker 1: this year for some of these guys on the bubble,
- 54:18Speaker 1: and and dougas talked about it as well. I mean,
- 54:21Speaker 1: you gotta go out and perform and practice the best
- 54:24Speaker 1: you can and then well there's been a lot of different,
- 54:31Speaker 1: I guess ways that coaches have talked about how they
- 54:34Speaker 1: want to go about preparing for a season. And we
- 54:36Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier, and do you want to do you
- 54:40Speaker 1: want to scrimmage? You know in college you could do that.
- 54:44Speaker 1: You could have inter squad scrimmage, you could have live
- 54:46Speaker 1: drills and everything, because everybody that you have in your
- 54:50Speaker 1: camp in college you're keeping you know, there's scholarship players
- 54:54Speaker 1: are walk on players. I mean, look, everybody's got a jersey,
- 54:57Speaker 1: everybody's got a locker. Nick savings, not cutting anybody. You know,
- 55:02Speaker 1: he doesn't have a salary captain Hannhage. You know, whereas
- 55:05Speaker 1: a professional football team you have salary cap, you've got
- 55:09Speaker 1: roster limitations. And so there's a lot of things that
- 55:12Speaker 1: I think that are gonna go into the decision making
- 55:14Speaker 1: process of how, you know, Doug bron is gonna get
- 55:17Speaker 1: his football team ready and and and I think he's
- 55:19Speaker 1: got to strike kind of a balance because it's a
- 55:23Speaker 1: young team. But at the same token, so you want
- 55:26Speaker 1: to make sure that you get as many reps as
- 55:28Speaker 1: you can for a young team, but then it also
- 55:30Speaker 1: has components of it that aren't so young, you know,
- 55:33Speaker 1: like a Brandon Lender. You know, you want to make
- 55:35Speaker 1: sure you get him ready for the season. You want
- 55:38Speaker 1: to make sure that you have guys that are fresh
- 55:39Speaker 1: and ready to go when the when they start counting
- 55:43Speaker 1: the wins and losses and not necessarily trying to win
- 55:46Speaker 1: the All Duval Team award. You know, prior to the
- 55:51Speaker 1: season actually started. We we touched earlier and throughout the
- 55:57Speaker 1: day on all the changes for this team over the
- 56:00Speaker 1: last week, really on the defensive line. That's that's where
- 56:02Speaker 1: the turnover has been as of late um it is.
- 56:08Speaker 1: It's got to be a challenge, and not only for
- 56:11Speaker 1: that group. Yes, there's new faces and and everybody, but
- 56:15Speaker 1: that's a defensive issue. That's an entire defense issue. That's
- 56:18Speaker 1: not just a line issue. That turns into a couple
- 56:21Speaker 1: of levels at least of your defense having to deal
- 56:23Speaker 1: with new faces and new places. Well, I feel I
- 56:27Speaker 1: feel for ReBs which uh Jason and the coach of
- 56:31Speaker 1: the defensive line River Bitches where everybody calls him ReBs
- 56:36Speaker 1: and he's got it. He's got a tough task now.
- 56:38Speaker 1: I mean when you start having a coach guys that
- 56:41Speaker 1: aren't even on your team anymore, or guys that weren't
- 56:44Speaker 1: on your team a couple of days ago now they're
- 56:46Speaker 1: just joining. I mean that's a you know, that's what
- 56:49Speaker 1: they pay coaches money for. They've got to be able
- 56:51Speaker 1: to adapt and adjustin He's got a tall task to
- 56:54Speaker 1: be able to put this defensive line together, you know.
- 56:57Speaker 1: And on top of that, it's not just the parts
- 56:59Speaker 1: that you're missing that you're trying to replace and that
- 57:01Speaker 1: it's also the parts that you have already had that
- 57:04Speaker 1: you've got to find a way to continue to develop them.
- 57:07Speaker 1: Tavin Bryan. You gotta get Taven Brian better. You know,
- 57:11Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to get Avery Jones to
- 57:13Speaker 1: play better. I mean, he's a nose tackle. He said
- 57:15Speaker 1: that the middle of that defense that's so important to
- 57:18Speaker 1: stopping the running game. You've got to find a way
- 57:21Speaker 1: to develop a three technique defensive tackle because if Gutter
- 57:26Speaker 1: can't go because he still has an illness, you know
- 57:29Speaker 1: who else is gonna play besides Tavin Bryan. You know,
- 57:32Speaker 1: so Dontavius Russell not available? I would opted out. J P. Shadrack,
- 57:38Speaker 1: can you play? I don't think so. I'm gonna stay
- 57:43Speaker 1: in the media side. I'm good. That is interesting. You're like, hey,
- 57:48Speaker 1: how maybe I'll take some snaps. No no chance, no no, no,
- 57:54Speaker 1: no chance I have I'm joking. And then I'll take
- 57:57Speaker 1: the signing bonus, the guarantee non refundled signing boats. Then
- 58:01Speaker 1: I'll retire right after that. I like that idea that
- 58:06Speaker 1: that wouldn't bet on at all. So the Jags are
- 58:09Speaker 1: back in the practice field tomorrow for the ramp up
- 58:13Speaker 1: to continue Phase two. We're not calling it training camp,
- 58:17Speaker 1: thank you yet, And I believe we're gonna hear from
- 58:20Speaker 1: Todd wash tomorrow. I'm interested to see what he has
- 58:22Speaker 1: to say about all this. Well, I'm sure he's he's
- 58:25Speaker 1: got an opinion that if you asked him honestly, uh,
- 58:30Speaker 1: he would probably give you a different answer than what
- 58:32Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you, you know, in a press conference situation.
- 58:35Speaker 1: But here, here's the reality. It's not a great situation
- 58:39Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Defensively, the amount of transition that this
- 58:43Speaker 1: defensive side of the football has undergone him the last
- 58:46Speaker 1: couple of years alone has been staggering, from having arguably
- 58:50Speaker 1: the best cornerback tandem in the league to the defensive
- 58:52Speaker 1: line combination and now all of a a sudden that's evaporated.
- 58:55Speaker 1: A lot of challenges for Todd Walher's defense, no doubt,
- 59:00Speaker 1: and a lot of challenges ahead for the Jags here
- 59:02Speaker 1: and once training camp officially it is under way, but
- 59:07Speaker 1: once the real training camp gets here, a lot of
- 59:09Speaker 1: evaluation yet to come. Our thanks to head coach Doug
- 59:12Speaker 1: Marone for joining us logs. We'll talk to you again
- 59:15Speaker 1: next week. You got a j P for a Jeff Logman.
- 59:20Speaker 1: Our entire crew, I'm JP Shadrick will catch you next time.
- 59:23Speaker 1: This is the Doug Brone Show. On the Jaguars Radio Network,