Latest / The Front / Who killed David Jones? Inside the butchering of a beloved brand
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- 0:05Speaker 1: From The Australian, here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:08Speaker 2: It's Friday, November 6, 2026.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Finally, let's tackle productivity.
- 0:16Speaker 2: That seems to be the thinking from a federal government
- 0:19Speaker 2: panicking about the economy. The Australian's Matt Cranston is revealing
- 0:23Speaker 2: today Jim Chalmers.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Has asked Treasury.
- 0:26Speaker 2: to develop new productivity ideas for next month's mid-year budget update.
- 0:31Speaker 2: That story's live now at theaustralian.com.au. Is there a way
- 0:38Speaker 2: out of hell for David Jones? The 188-year-old Australian retailer
- 0:43Speaker 2: will go into the festive shopping period in voluntary administration.
- 0:47Speaker 2: with potentially hundreds of jobs to go and some stores
- 0:51Speaker 2: to close. Disgruntled landlords, angry suppliers and bemused customers are
- 0:57Speaker 2: all asking, how was a beloved legacy brand trashed so comprehensively?
- 1:13Speaker 2: After 188 years in business, Australian department store David Jones.
- 1:18Speaker 3: David Jones.
- 1:19Speaker 1: David Jones. David Jones has entered voluntary administration.
- 1:24Speaker 4: This is a long time coming.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Bridget Carter edits the Australian's much-read business column, Data Room.
- 1:31Speaker 5: You know, there's been rumblings about David Jones being in
- 1:33Speaker 5: trouble for a very long time.
- 1:35Speaker 3: Taylor remained under an active investigation for its 2025 accounts
- 1:40Speaker 3: that showed another major loss of $ 95. 5 million. And the
- 1:44Speaker 3: year before that, they had posted a loss of $ 74. 1 million.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Earlier in the year, there was changes to the terms
- 1:54Speaker 5: for people who sold clothes and items and David Jones
- 1:57Speaker 5: in terms of how they got paid. So for many
- 2:00Speaker 5: in the industry, this is not a big surprise.
- 2:10Speaker 2: It's really sad, though, for both people in the industry,
- 2:13Speaker 2: I think, and for consumers in Australia. Many of us
- 2:16Speaker 2: have memories of shopping with our mothers and grandmothers at
- 2:18Speaker 2: David Jones.
- 2:19Speaker 1: These are beloved retail.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Establishments in kind of every city in Australia and in
- 2:25Speaker 2: some regional locations too. I remember riding up the wooden
- 2:28Speaker 2: escalators at David Jones in Elizabeth Street in Sydney. It
- 2:31Speaker 2: was a big, sophisticated day out for me. And I
- 2:34Speaker 2: love knowing that my grandmother had ridden on the same
- 2:36Speaker 2: escalators to do her shopping when she was my age.
- 2:39Speaker 2: How could David Jones, with that level of brand recognition
- 2:44Speaker 2: that any brand would kill for, failed to manage the
- 2:49Speaker 2: modern era?
- 2:50Speaker 5: Well, I think there's a few things at play. First
- 2:52Speaker 5: of all, we have to look at what's happening internationally.
- 2:56Speaker 5: Department stores, particularly luxury department stores, have been through a
- 2:59Speaker 5: really hard time. I mean, we've seen lots of reports
- 3:01Speaker 5: about stores like Macy's and big names in the industry,
- 3:05Speaker 5: others in the UK, either struggling or coming close to
- 3:09Speaker 5: collapsing or collapsing. So the first thing I'd say is
- 3:13Speaker 5: this is actually a trend that's happening right around the world. However,
- 3:16Speaker 5: there have been success stories, and we do have success
- 3:19Speaker 5: stories in Australia. For instance, Best in Less is a
- 3:22Speaker 5: really strong performer now. Well, Ian Moyer is the chief
- 3:28Speaker 5: executive of Woolworths, and he's been spending quite a bit
- 3:30Speaker 5: of time in Australia. They want to.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Acquire Australia's second largest department.
- 3:36Speaker 5: Store chain called David Jones.
- 3:39Speaker 2: The price tag is 20.5 billion rand.
- 3:43Speaker 5: People in the industry point to the time when South
- 3:47Speaker 5: Africa's Woolworths bought David Jones. They paid a huge amount
- 3:51Speaker 5: of money for the business. They made a few really
- 3:55Speaker 5: key strategic missteps. And I think there's always a challenge
- 3:58Speaker 5: for an international retailer coming into the Australian market or
- 4:02Speaker 5: a new market. One of the things they did was
- 4:04Speaker 5: they brought in all their sort of home brand clothing
- 4:08Speaker 5: into David Jones after that because they paid over $ 2
- 4:11Speaker 5: billion for the company. And I think they had the
- 4:13Speaker 5: strategy they could sell a lot of the Woolworths South
- 4:16Speaker 5: Africa clothing and things in David Jones clothes. And I
- 4:19Speaker 5: think what they failed to appreciate is the key to
- 4:22Speaker 5: David Jones's success is their brand was very much recognized
- 4:25Speaker 5: with luxury and associated with that. By putting in sort
- 4:29Speaker 5: of non-label clothing or items into it, it really sort
- 4:32Speaker 5: of took down the prestige aspect of David Jones. And
- 4:37Speaker 5: through that whole period, that really put it on the
- 4:40Speaker 5: back foot. And then there was just problem after problem,
- 4:43Speaker 5: trying to sort that out, other things. It was losing money.
- 4:46Speaker 5: And then Because it wasn't performing well and they really
- 4:49Speaker 5: needed to put money into the business, they had two
- 4:52Speaker 5: really valuable real estate sites that they owned. They owned
- 4:54Speaker 5: the Sydney site in the centre of the city and
- 4:56Speaker 5: the Melbourne site. Well, they put those on the market
- 4:59Speaker 5: and sold them to try and reinvest into the business.
- 5:02Speaker 5: And then they now have rents on those sites and
- 5:06Speaker 5: they don't own any of their real estate. And so
- 5:08Speaker 5: just more rents, you know, it was sort of just
- 5:10Speaker 5: a downhill slope from there. Yeah.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Yeah, that selling off of the real estate seems like
- 5:14Speaker 2: a catastrophic decision. Obviously, it would have given them a
- 5:16Speaker 2: short-term cash injection, but now they're a tenant and they
- 5:20Speaker 2: also don't have the flexibility to, you know, tactically close
- 5:24Speaker 2: a store and rent it to someone else to make
- 5:25Speaker 2: some income to support the business.
- 5:27Speaker 1: That's right.
- 5:28Speaker 3: I mean.
- 5:28Speaker 5: Actually, the CBD stores in places like Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, Brisbane,
- 5:34Speaker 5: they all do very, very well. They're very profitable stores,
- 5:37Speaker 5: but they wanted to expand the business. And then they
- 5:41Speaker 5: opened a lot of malls and shopping centres there. too
- 5:43Speaker 5: many shopping centres, too many places like Parramatta in Sydney
- 5:49Speaker 5: and other places where the demographic wouldn't really be your
- 5:51Speaker 5: typical David Jones shopper. And those stores have not made money.
- 5:56Speaker 5: And then the lease agreements are so long dated and
- 6:00Speaker 5: so onerous that they can't get out of them. So
- 6:03Speaker 5: they're just constantly paying rent on these stores that don't
- 6:06Speaker 5: make money. People say to me in the industry, the
- 6:08Speaker 5: really good business model for a company like David Jones
- 6:11Speaker 5: is just owning a stores and the state capitals and
- 6:15Speaker 5: just having less than 10 that are really profitable, if
- 6:18Speaker 5: they could have done that, they would have been a
- 6:20Speaker 5: very successful business.
- 6:22Speaker 2: It seems to be the landlords who are almost bringing
- 6:24Speaker 2: this to a crisis now. What exactly is going on
- 6:28Speaker 2: with landlords?
- 6:29Speaker 5: Look, I mean, there's a lot of speculation that, oh,
- 6:32Speaker 5: there's discussions and negotiations between the landlords and the You know,
- 6:36Speaker 5: there was an agreement that was going to be struck.
- 6:38Speaker 5: That's not really what I was hearing in the market
- 6:40Speaker 5: at all. I mean, the landlord's view is this is
- 6:42Speaker 5: what rent we're owed. This is what we want to
- 6:45Speaker 5: be paid. You pay it or, you know, we kick
- 6:48Speaker 5: you out and find another tenant, especially the Westfield Owner
- 6:52Speaker 5: Centre Group. Like they've got David Jones in 17 of
- 6:54Speaker 5: their stores. They have bank guarantees. So if David Jones
- 6:58Speaker 5: goes broke, the agreement is the bank has to pay
- 7:01Speaker 5: them rent.
- 7:01Speaker 4: So they don't care.
- 7:03Speaker 5: The landlords have always played hardball from what I understand,
- 7:06Speaker 5: and they've steered these tenants down. And they really have to,
- 7:08Speaker 5: because if they make an exception for David Jones, it
- 7:12Speaker 5: really disrupts their whole business model where other tenants want
- 7:18Speaker 5: favorable terms. So they said that basically a David Jones
- 7:22Speaker 5: store on average is paying less than $ 400 per square
- 7:25Speaker 5: meter in rent. And on average, the tenants pay, I
- 7:29Speaker 5: think it was around $ 900 per square meter in rent.
- 7:31Speaker 5: So These aren't landlords getting loads and loads of money
- 7:35Speaker 5: from David Jones and rent. Some of them would actually
- 7:37Speaker 5: love David Jones to go so that they could lease
- 7:39Speaker 5: the space and get a better tenant in.
- 7:42Speaker 4: Of course, there's others.
- 7:43Speaker 5: You know, it would be a disaster if David Jones
- 7:45Speaker 5: goes because they'd really struggle to lease the space. But
- 7:48Speaker 5: there are a lot that actually say, look, we've got
- 7:51Speaker 5: plenty of demand for our space. And if David Jones
- 7:54Speaker 5: can't pay the rent, we're more than happy to replace them.
- 7:58Speaker 1: The joy of giving. The celebration of Christmas. And at
- 8:02Speaker 1: David Jones, you'll find an extra special range of Christmas
- 8:05Speaker 1: gift ideas.
- 8:07Speaker 2: The timing matters though now, doesn't it? We're going into
- 8:10Speaker 2: the holiday shopping period. I can't imagine walking into a
- 8:13Speaker 2: mall and having an empty David Jones space with the
- 8:16Speaker 2: shutters down. Surely Centre Group wouldn't want that.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Especially at Christmas, there's no other store like David Jones.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Well, this is the key thing. Anchorage Capital.
- 8:28Speaker 5: partners, the private equity firm that owns David Jones now
- 8:31Speaker 5: no longer has control. The administrators have control, but they
- 8:35Speaker 5: keep it trading. Then they run a sale process. Now,
- 8:38Speaker 5: that would be good news for landlords because they would
- 8:42Speaker 5: keep the stores open till Christmas. You know, they could
- 8:45Speaker 5: gradually close stores over time or they, you know, if
- 8:49Speaker 5: there's a buyer for David Jones, they can come up
- 8:51Speaker 5: with a new deal and.
- 8:53Speaker 4: They could do it sort of progressively store by store.
- 8:59Speaker 2: So this could be the pathway out of trouble for
- 9:01Speaker 2: DJ's owner Anchorage Capital. The leases are cancelled and now
- 9:06Speaker 2: DJ's can try again, freed of the low-performing stores and
- 9:10Speaker 2: focus only on the highly profitable city stores, which it
- 9:14Speaker 2: can restyle as premium shopping destinations. So back to the beginning.
- 9:20Speaker 2: On Thursday, DJ's boss Erica Berthold told staff the business
- 9:24Speaker 2: would keep trading in person and online... while the restructuring
- 9:28Speaker 2: firm that's been appointed, FTI Consulting, reviews the business. Everything's
- 9:33Speaker 2: up for grabs now, a restructure, a sell-off or the
- 9:36Speaker 2: closure of multiple or all stores. It was the landlords
- 9:40Speaker 2: in the end who did DJs in. Once the business
- 9:44Speaker 2: failed to pay rent for the month of October, landlords,
- 9:47Speaker 2: including Centre Group, which operates the Westfield malls, refused a request.
- 9:52Speaker 1: From DJs to delay rent for three months.
- 9:55Speaker 2: If they'd said yes to deferring the rent, DJs would
- 9:58Speaker 2: have been able to pay its supply and staff and
- 10:01Speaker 2: get through to Christmas and then maybe trade out of difficulty.
- 10:06Speaker 1: No deal. So Anchorage called in the administrators.
- 10:13Speaker 2: I was speaking to a very prominent business person the
- 10:16Speaker 2: other day who said the problems are obvious at David
- 10:18Speaker 2: Jones ever since they stopped having retail expertise on the board.
- 10:21Speaker 2: That's the main issue. And you do wonder when you
- 10:24Speaker 2: go into a David Jones store and you're looking around
- 10:26Speaker 2: for someone to help you and staff are avoiding your
- 10:29Speaker 2: gaze and kind of hiding behind counters or not apparent
- 10:33Speaker 2: at all. Stock has fallen on the floor. It feels
- 10:36Speaker 2: depressing and dark in those stores now. And I really wonder...
- 10:41Speaker 2: Have they kind of doomed themselves by running the business
- 10:44Speaker 2: down like that?
- 10:45Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's sort of self-fulfilling, isn't it? Because at
- 10:48Speaker 5: the beginning of the year, we were hearing that suppliers
- 10:50Speaker 5: weren't getting paid or that there were delays. And then
- 10:52Speaker 5: so the suppliers didn't want to put their stock in.
- 10:55Speaker 5: Suppliers have been nervous about giving their stock. And so
- 10:57Speaker 5: there's less things to buy. And so, you know, it
- 11:01Speaker 5: sort of just goes downhill. And people I've been talking to,
- 11:03Speaker 5: you know, say, they just have gone in to walk
- 11:06Speaker 5: around a bit like you have and just noticed how
- 11:08Speaker 5: depressing it all is. But a lot of people say
- 11:12Speaker 5: with something like a department store or retail, the companies
- 11:16Speaker 5: that seem to do really well are private retailers who
- 11:19Speaker 5: really know the business. Like Woolworth South Africa is a
- 11:21Speaker 5: big listed corporate company.
- 11:24Speaker 4: They don't own it anymore. Obviously, Anchorage owns it.
- 11:26Speaker 5: But Anchorage is a private equity firm and they run
- 11:28Speaker 5: it like a finance business. They just want to make
- 11:30Speaker 5: as much cash out of this as they possibly can.
- 11:33Speaker 5: And they're not people who like a Brett Blundy or
- 11:37Speaker 5: somebody like that who just knows retail like the back
- 11:39Speaker 5: of their hand and knows how to get shoppers in
- 11:41Speaker 5: the door and what resonates with shoppers and what resonates
- 11:45Speaker 5: with the market. I mean, another one that's actually a
- 11:47Speaker 5: Kiwi brand, but the one that people have talked about
- 11:50Speaker 5: has done really well in the Aussie market is Glassons.
- 11:52Speaker 5: And people just said they're so connected with their shoppers.
- 11:56Speaker 5: And so, yeah, I mean, they say about retail, retail
- 11:58Speaker 5: is detail. You really, really need to know the business.
- 12:01Speaker 5: So it's very common when a private equity firm or
- 12:04Speaker 5: something like that owns a retail store, it really goes
- 12:07Speaker 5: downhill fast.
- 12:08Speaker 2: There's pressure on the Australian economy in all sorts of
- 12:11Speaker 2: directions at the moment. The last thing the economy needs
- 12:14Speaker 2: is all of David Jones' staff to be unemployed.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Is that a prospect? Would an administrator demand massive job cuts,
- 12:22Speaker 1: do you think?
- 12:22Speaker 5: My own personal view about what's probably going to play
- 12:25Speaker 5: out is they will close a significant number of stores.
- 12:27Speaker 5: So yeah, there will be job losses, definitely. Will everyone
- 12:31Speaker 5: lose their job? I think they'll run a sale process.
- 12:33Speaker 5: I think someone might pick up David Jones and buy it.
- 12:37Speaker 5: because it really needs money reinvested into the business. And
- 12:40Speaker 5: if you can run it with fewer stores, it might
- 12:43Speaker 5: be profitable. And then some people would keep their jobs. Again,
- 12:47Speaker 5: another really bad possibility is they can't find a buyer
- 12:50Speaker 5: and then they liquidate it.
- 12:51Speaker 4: Because the lender might take the view they can get more.
- 12:55Speaker 5: For their assets liquidated than they can running it as
- 12:57Speaker 5: a going concern, which is often quite common as well.
- 13:01Speaker 2: Wow.
- 13:01Speaker 1: I think you should run it, Bridget.
- 13:03Speaker 4: No, definitely not.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me.
- 13:05Speaker 4: Thanks a lot.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Bridget Carter edits The Australian's must-read business column, Data Room.
- 13:15Speaker 2: You can check it out now at theaustralian.com.au.