Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Jermaine Dupri Talks 'Freaknik,' Usher; Superbowl Performance, Magic City, Mase + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Morning everybody. It's the j n V.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Jess hilarious Charlamage the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
- 0:09Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, legendary Jermaine Duprit.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Yeah, going on, where you want to start?
- 0:17Speaker 2: You want to start the number one congratulations on money Long.
- 0:22Speaker 3: We can start with the number one, all right, number
- 0:24Speaker 3: one records, money Long, number one record this week produced
- 0:27Speaker 3: by j D.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nothing to you, no more, there's nothing.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying no, no, I'm saying I don't want
- 0:35Speaker 4: to start with that. I came to talk about Freaknick. Congratulations.
- 0:38Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm you know, I'm
- 0:39Speaker 4: a static about it. Yeah, you know it's amazing.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Now let's talk about Freakney. This Freaknick documentary.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Now, when making a documentary, you had tons of ladies
- 0:49Speaker 3: and men scared that they were going to see their pictures,
- 0:51Speaker 3: their asses on the screen. But it was it was
- 0:54Speaker 3: well done. It wasn't done in a disrespectful way. It
- 0:56Speaker 3: was it was so explain to it, this documentary, how
- 0:58Speaker 3: it came.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Out, how it came up. Yeah, I mean it came about.
- 1:02Speaker 1: I think Luke was trying.
- 1:04Speaker 4: To do this initially, and then they started having conversations
- 1:07Speaker 4: about it, and Luke said, you know, he can't do
- 1:09Speaker 4: it if I wasn't involved. And then when they came
- 1:11Speaker 4: to talk to me about it, I said the same
- 1:14Speaker 4: thing to them. I'm like, well, I wouldn't do this
- 1:15Speaker 4: if Luke wasn't involved, and they like, well, we got Luke,
- 1:17Speaker 4: so we got you, and I'm like yeah. So it
- 1:19Speaker 4: went from there, and then it just kind of just
- 1:21Speaker 4: started moving pretty fast. And then I just wanted to
- 1:23Speaker 4: make sure that the story was told from all perspectives
- 1:29Speaker 4: because the people that was concerned about the ass is
- 1:33Speaker 4: showing and all of that, they don't understand how young
- 1:35Speaker 4: I was when Freaknick was actually popping. So my perspective
- 1:39Speaker 4: of freak Nick wasn't that perspective. I ain't see all
- 1:42Speaker 4: that because I wasn't able to get into the clubs
- 1:45Speaker 4: and all of this type of stuff. So my perspective
- 1:46Speaker 4: was I was part of the street traffic. I was
- 1:50Speaker 4: out in the streets, I was dancing outside the cars,
- 1:52Speaker 4: I was on p Street. I was that was a
- 1:55Speaker 4: part of freak Nick, and I saw other people saw
- 1:57Speaker 4: Luke got a different story than other people. So it's
- 1:59Speaker 4: just really important for me to see make sure that
- 2:01Speaker 4: we made you see everybody's different perspective.
- 2:04Speaker 5: How much did y'all have to water to duck down
- 2:06Speaker 5: because of this lame mass cancel culture.
- 2:08Speaker 6: Era that week?
- 2:09Speaker 1: None?
- 2:09Speaker 4: Because I mean you, I feel like I feel like
- 2:12Speaker 4: ultimately what people don't understand is this is black culture.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Are you embarrassed by a culture? Like? Are you embarrassed
- 2:18Speaker 1: that you went to an HBCU And this is how
- 2:20Speaker 1: y'all act?
- 2:21Speaker 4: If that, If that's how you feel, then you should
- 2:23Speaker 4: just change your color of your skin, because this is
- 2:26Speaker 4: that's life in Atlanta.
- 2:27Speaker 1: We got four you know what I mean?
- 2:28Speaker 4: Where everywhere else got one, y'all got Hampton and one.
- 2:32Speaker 1: We have four of them.
- 2:33Speaker 4: So if you put all of that energy in one place,
- 2:35Speaker 4: it's just what black culture is.
- 2:37Speaker 6: Absolutely.
- 2:38Speaker 4: I mean, how did how did twenty one Savage get
- 2:42Speaker 4: to be a part of it?
- 2:42Speaker 2: I know that this was y'all era, you and Uncle Luke,
- 2:46Speaker 2: but how did.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Well twenty one?
- 2:49Speaker 4: He been doing his birthday party and the theme with
- 2:52Speaker 4: his birthday party is freak nick for the past couple
- 2:55Speaker 4: of years.
- 2:55Speaker 1: So at first I was like no, But then you
- 3:00Speaker 1: know he liveing in Atlanta.
- 3:02Speaker 4: He from well, I mean, you know he's not from Atlanta,
- 3:04Speaker 4: but he from basically from Atlanta.
- 3:05Speaker 1: So if you're from Atlanta, you've.
- 3:07Speaker 4: Been you felt the repercussions of something from Freaknick at
- 3:13Speaker 4: some point.
- 3:14Speaker 2: You know it's crazy because you know, going to Hampton.
- 3:16Speaker 3: Of course, Freaknik created so many different uh gathereries right Philly,
- 3:21Speaker 3: greg Fourth to July and Virginia Jones Beach, New York City.
- 3:25Speaker 3: It all started for Freaknick. But I just thought it
- 3:27Speaker 3: was a party that a party that was created just
- 3:30Speaker 3: for people a while out. That's what I thought it
- 3:31Speaker 3: was when when you were in college, that's what you
- 3:33Speaker 3: think it was. But the fact that it was created
- 3:35Speaker 3: for students that didn't have any money was something. You
- 3:37Speaker 3: want to break that down because I thought it was
- 3:39Speaker 3: created for a whole different reason.
- 3:40Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's what I'm saying a lot of people.
- 3:42Speaker 4: I didn't go to college, so I can't you know
- 3:44Speaker 4: what I mean, I didn't know that either. So the
- 3:46Speaker 4: the person that's watching this, that's probably me that didn't
- 3:49Speaker 4: go to college. Uh, that don't know nothing about that lifestyle.
- 3:54Speaker 4: You know, you don't understand that these kids that come
- 3:57Speaker 4: from DC or New York or.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Wherever they come, Nick all the way to Atlanta.
- 4:00Speaker 4: You think that they got money to just fly back
- 4:02Speaker 4: home on spring break.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And just back then, we didn't fly.
- 4:06Speaker 2: We would drive exactly.
- 4:08Speaker 1: So it's like even that's another thing that that.
- 4:10Speaker 4: This documentary shows of how unmanual we are as people. Unmanual, Yeah,
- 4:16Speaker 4: unmanual because we are as people because you guys.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Used to drive. Now when you think you're.
- 4:23Speaker 4: Gonna see four girls from New York getting a car
- 4:25Speaker 4: and drive to Atlanta just to have fun, no way,
- 4:28Speaker 4: never their lies.
- 4:30Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it just shows you
- 4:33Speaker 1: that type of stuff.
- 4:34Speaker 4: And then like you know, so so you should see
- 4:36Speaker 4: that freak Nick is like, oh, these were some kids
- 4:39Speaker 4: that couldn't go home.
- 4:41Speaker 1: They they didn't know what their spring break was gonna be.
- 4:43Speaker 4: Like they watching all these white kids go to go
- 4:45Speaker 4: to they on the beach and all this, and they
- 4:48Speaker 4: got money. But these kids are stuck in Atlanta and
- 4:50Speaker 4: ain't got no money. So they threw a picnic that
- 4:52Speaker 4: turned into Freaknick. That's a that's an American black history story.
- 4:57Speaker 6: Oh, people weren't afraid to be broke back then.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Well, I mean you have no true, no trust to
- 5:03Speaker 1: be afraid.
- 5:04Speaker 5: But no, nowadays people confront right, so everybody can pretend
- 5:07Speaker 5: to something that you can pretend to.
- 5:09Speaker 6: Have more than you got.
- 5:10Speaker 5: Nobody wants to mean they just you know they I mean,
- 5:14Speaker 5: well you yeah, you know, I'll be seeing these girls
- 5:16Speaker 5: go to tuloom and I'm sure they sharing rooms.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Yeah, matter like that didn't you know what I'm saying.
- 5:25Speaker 6: It didn't matter Like you.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Would go to you know, Philly Greek or Fourth of
- 5:29Speaker 3: July and Virginia and it'd be seven of us in
- 5:31Speaker 3: the room and nobody thought about anything. It wasn't we
- 5:34Speaker 3: broke and be like, oh you got the floor, you
- 5:35Speaker 3: got the eye, you take your quick shout. But that's
- 5:37Speaker 3: what it was. It was all hanging out his brothers.
- 5:39Speaker 3: It didn't matter.
- 5:40Speaker 1: That's why I thought it was for me.
- 5:41Speaker 4: That's why as we got into it, that's why I
- 5:43Speaker 4: was like, this has to come out because people, you know,
- 5:47Speaker 4: we don't we don't see this in black culture. We
- 5:49Speaker 4: just keep trying to make it seem like everybody got
- 5:51Speaker 4: money and everybody do this and nothing. No, it was
- 5:53Speaker 4: a time when none of that mattered, right, And after
- 5:56Speaker 4: I liked when Jalen Rose was somebo how he got
- 5:58Speaker 4: to freak Nick. He he took his cousin car or something,
- 6:02Speaker 4: and it was just like, you know, as long as
- 6:05Speaker 4: I get a car, I'm out, we get into freaking it.
- 6:07Speaker 4: And that was the same thing with me when I
- 6:08Speaker 4: was seventeen or well six, chem I had just got
- 6:13Speaker 4: my first car. My first car was a Valari, a
- 6:15Speaker 4: two door Valori basically probably listening don't even know what
- 6:19Speaker 4: that is. But it was an ugly ass car that
- 6:22Speaker 4: looked like a Pacer mixed with something else, right, And I.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Ain't care what the car looked like.
- 6:27Speaker 4: I just was able to drive around Atlanta while this
- 6:31Speaker 4: was happening.
- 6:32Speaker 1: And that's all.
- 6:32Speaker 4: That's ultimately what your the goal was. Can you get
- 6:36Speaker 4: into the Freakingnick? Can you get into traffic? If you're
- 6:40Speaker 4: sitting at home and you can't get it, and that's
- 6:41Speaker 4: when you're mad. But if you have a car, that's
- 6:43Speaker 4: what all. That's all it was about.
- 6:45Speaker 2: It's crazy how.
- 6:46Speaker 3: They easily cancel black events. Right while you look at
- 6:50Speaker 3: Daytuna Beach, you look at Miami spring Break, you look
- 6:53Speaker 3: at where the white kids go for their spring break
- 6:55Speaker 3: and they wild out, they get drunk, they fight, and
- 6:57Speaker 3: all types of stuff, but those events never get canceled.
- 7:00Speaker 3: It seemed like they tried to tame it, but they
- 7:02Speaker 3: just totally canceled freaking it, which is which is crazy.
- 7:05Speaker 4: I mean they had to because it was it was bad.
- 7:09Speaker 4: I mean, it got to a point now and I'm
- 7:11Speaker 4: not talking about the misconduct with the guys and the girls.
- 7:15Speaker 4: I'm talking about just the traffic and how the city
- 7:18Speaker 4: was dealing with it, because ultimately, these guys that was
- 7:22Speaker 4: at their school they started something. They never talked to
- 7:25Speaker 4: the people in the city, so the city had no
- 7:28Speaker 4: idea what was actually happening. When it got out of control,
- 7:32Speaker 4: they just start trying to control it the best way
- 7:34Speaker 4: they could. But they weren't even talking to the DC
- 7:37Speaker 4: Metro Club, right, So it's like at that point, it's
- 7:41Speaker 4: like it's like, uh, Frankenstein, You've gone created a monster
- 7:45Speaker 4: and y'all can't control this. You got the only thing
- 7:47Speaker 4: you can do is shut it down at least for
- 7:49Speaker 4: a second and try to see if y'all can figure
- 7:51Speaker 4: out how to make it work.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Did it ever come back? No, And we tried a
- 7:54Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Now I don't think.
- 7:57Speaker 4: I mean, I think it could come back if you
- 8:00Speaker 4: off people really really sit down and figure out how
- 8:03Speaker 4: to make it into essence Fest, because that's basically what
- 8:07Speaker 4: it should have become. It should have become the essence
- 8:09Speaker 4: Fest of Atlanta, right. But the traffic part of it
- 8:13Speaker 4: was that was the.
- 8:15Speaker 5: Ship more than people who go to others now probably
- 8:17Speaker 5: used to go to Freaking.
- 8:20Speaker 1: All the black people was at Freaking.
- 8:22Speaker 3: You just got to define the name because when people
- 8:24Speaker 3: hear the name Freaknick, they think it's gonna be a yeah.
- 8:27Speaker 1: But I'm saying we can get past that. We got
- 8:28Speaker 1: Slutty Vegan now.
- 8:34Speaker 5: I don't think it's too much cameras now, Yeah, but
- 8:37Speaker 5: that's another thing.
- 8:38Speaker 1: I think that that's That's the other thing. That's the
- 8:40Speaker 1: only thing I would say.
- 8:40Speaker 4: If you go to Freaknick, now, you gotta put your
- 8:43Speaker 4: phone away because you have missed the girls dancing on
- 8:44Speaker 4: the cars, like the fact that you was driving down
- 8:48Speaker 4: the street and you were looking for everything.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It's how you saw freaking it.
- 8:54Speaker 4: If somebody down there doing this, you're gonna miss everything.
- 8:58Speaker 1: So that's another thing you gotta you.
- 9:00Speaker 4: Know, And maybe the hype of it and people saying
- 9:03Speaker 4: it might make people want to see it. But I
- 9:05Speaker 4: just think people are so like attached to their phones
- 9:08Speaker 4: and they think everything is more important than their phone,
- 9:11Speaker 4: as opposed and seeing what's happening outside.
- 9:14Speaker 5: And how come nobody ever focuses on some of the
- 9:16Speaker 5: women that went down there because they wanted to have
- 9:18Speaker 5: a good time, Like they wanted to go out there
- 9:20Speaker 5: and be loose and wild and liberated.
- 9:24Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about that, Okay, we let the girls
- 9:26Speaker 4: talk about that the show that they was grabbing the dudes.
- 9:29Speaker 1: You know, you think Uncle.
- 9:34Speaker 6: Luke's music helped hurt Freaking.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I helped? You said, did it help?
- 9:39Speaker 4: It helped between Uncle Luke and Social Based All Stars.
- 9:45Speaker 1: That's the soundtrack of Freaknick, you know what I mean?
- 9:47Speaker 1: And it was like.
- 9:50Speaker 4: I think, I also think now with Miami shutting down,
- 9:57Speaker 4: spring Break and all that, it's the music because the
- 9:59Speaker 4: people don't You don't have nothing's making you dance, right,
- 10:04Speaker 4: nothing making you jump on top of the cars. You
- 10:07Speaker 4: see people doing it, but they doing it to music
- 10:10Speaker 4: that don't really have that vibration. Right at Freakingnick, the
- 10:15Speaker 4: girls was dancing so hard and the guys was dancing
- 10:17Speaker 4: so hard.
- 10:19Speaker 1: You ain't had time to be worrying about nobody beside like.
- 10:21Speaker 4: It was a the energy level was just too high, right,
- 10:25Speaker 4: And I just think the loop music, like I said,
- 10:28Speaker 4: the social debased Allso the music was making you dance
- 10:31Speaker 4: in a different space and it made you think about
- 10:34Speaker 4: like you was like this and it wasn't You don't
- 10:37Speaker 4: have time to be like hey niggas, No, no, you
- 10:40Speaker 4: know what I mean. We ain't come down here for that.
- 10:42Speaker 4: We came down here to see these girls. Let's go
- 10:44Speaker 4: see these girls.
- 10:44Speaker 1: It's almost like the mentality of.
- 10:46Speaker 4: A man when you go to the strip club. Right,
- 10:49Speaker 4: I go to strip club every week. You go to
- 10:50Speaker 4: the strip club. Guys don't come in the strip club
- 10:54Speaker 4: looking for niggas, right, They come in the strip club
- 10:57Speaker 4: to see the girls.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Right.
- 10:58Speaker 4: That was the mentality a freak Knick, And for some reason,
- 11:02Speaker 4: that's that's kind of lost in the space that we
- 11:05Speaker 4: live in now.
- 11:06Speaker 1: Niggas want to go see what other nigga's wearing.
- 11:09Speaker 5: Speaking of that, speaking of that, if Freak Nick did
- 11:14Speaker 5: come back to day, would you wear the boss Baby outfit?
- 11:16Speaker 1: You wore the super Bowl boss Baby outfit?
- 11:22Speaker 6: What was it? What was what was the What was
- 11:23Speaker 6: the inspiration behind that outfit? Gee?
- 11:27Speaker 4: First of all, I had on a tuck seed though
- 11:29Speaker 4: with shorts very similar to what.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I have on to day.
- 11:32Speaker 4: I have on a tie, a regular suit shirt and
- 11:36Speaker 4: I got on shorts.
- 11:36Speaker 6: It's very boised men.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's Vegas, right, you know what I'm saying.
- 11:43Speaker 4: It's it's a super Bowl. It's the biggest event in
- 11:46Speaker 4: the world. I could have went up there with the
- 11:48Speaker 4: started jacking and started hat how regular nigga is that?
- 11:52Speaker 1: Though?
- 11:52Speaker 4: Like I'm just saying, I think sometimes people don't realize,
- 11:56Speaker 4: like I'm in an entertainment business and I'm getting ready
- 11:59Speaker 4: to do the biggest show of Usher's life, not in
- 12:03Speaker 4: my life. I guess you want to say, We're going
- 12:05Speaker 4: on the biggest stage in the world and I should
- 12:08Speaker 4: be wearing a baseball cap and looking like a regular
- 12:12Speaker 4: ass nigga in the streets. Nah, Nah, I don't. I mean,
- 12:16Speaker 4: that's that was the thought behind it, right. So it
- 12:19Speaker 4: was more or less like you know, a while ago,
- 12:22Speaker 4: like enviewer Man, we started this thing called the Ocean seven, right,
- 12:25Speaker 4: and it was me Usher, John ta becox All. We
- 12:29Speaker 4: used to go to Vegas and we got dressed and
- 12:31Speaker 4: we'd be dressed up. So I wanted to actually have
- 12:36Speaker 4: a piece of that in what we was doing that,
- 12:38Speaker 4: you know, we in Vegas. Like, you don't go to
- 12:40Speaker 4: Usher show. I've seen you at us show. You was
- 12:43Speaker 4: dressed you you know what I mean. Niggas go to
- 12:45Speaker 4: his show dressed up. You don't go to Vegas with
- 12:49Speaker 4: your football on.
- 12:51Speaker 1: You just don't do that.
- 12:53Speaker 4: Like you didn't get people talking. Basically, no, I didn't
- 12:55Speaker 4: do it to get people talking. I didn't even think
- 12:57Speaker 4: nobody was gonna pay no attention to it. I had
- 12:58Speaker 4: on a tux seed.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Though with a tip and a regular shirt. The socks
- 13:02Speaker 1: strew people off.
- 13:04Speaker 3: They were talking about they't they didn't care about the tuck.
- 13:05Speaker 3: They were talk about the socks.
- 13:06Speaker 4: They were talking about the socks, right, and the socks
- 13:09Speaker 4: once again, the socks. I understand why if I keep
- 13:12Speaker 4: saying something about the socks, because they do look like
- 13:15Speaker 4: I guess what they say the Bobby socks.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Yeah, but they not. They don't have nothing to do
- 13:21Speaker 1: with that. They don't look nothing like that.
- 13:22Speaker 4: Once you get up on the socks and they also
- 13:26Speaker 4: you know, like I said, it's just I don't know,
- 13:29Speaker 4: it's my man's line right.
- 13:32Speaker 1: First of all, that's another thing for else.
- 13:34Speaker 4: My man ain't doubt niggas man, right, I don't notice nigga.
- 13:38Speaker 4: So in support of my homeboy line, I mean, I
- 13:42Speaker 4: wasn't even thinking about it.
- 13:43Speaker 1: You know, it just happened.
- 13:44Speaker 4: But I mean, shit, listen, I put my first group
- 13:46Speaker 4: out of nineteen ninety two. I'm trending in twenty twenty four. Yeah,
- 13:50Speaker 4: y'all can say whatever you want to say.
- 13:52Speaker 6: They'll got number one records.
- 13:53Speaker 5: What did User's Super Bowl halftime performance mean to you?
- 13:58Speaker 1: Everything?
- 13:59Speaker 6: As the architect, really, if we're being honest.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Yeah, everything. It means everything because when we made My.
- 14:04Speaker 4: Way, the discussion, the discussion that he and I had
- 14:08Speaker 4: making that record was that he.
- 14:10Speaker 1: Wanted to get to that space.
- 14:12Speaker 4: He wanted to and when he once he got to
- 14:14Speaker 4: that space, he wanted people to realize he did it
- 14:17Speaker 4: his way. That's how that whole album came about. So
- 14:21Speaker 4: for me to be in that seat and watch it
- 14:23Speaker 4: go from My Way to this, I probably was the
- 14:27Speaker 4: most proud. And then at the same time, I mean,
- 14:29Speaker 4: you know, he did six of my songs on Super Bowl.
- 14:33Speaker 4: It's like, you know, it's not a bunch of bugs
- 14:35Speaker 4: that could say crazy. They had six of these songs
- 14:37Speaker 4: performed on Super Bowl.
- 14:39Speaker 3: I argue with somebody up here the other day when
- 14:41Speaker 3: when they heard Confessions, right, younger person and they were like, yeah,
- 14:44Speaker 3: he wrote Confession. I was like, you know, Confessions was
- 14:46Speaker 3: about Jaine Dupre that Jamine Dupre wrote that that's factual.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, So I mean I wrote you
- 14:51Speaker 2: Make Me.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Want to, I wrote my Way, I wrote Nice and Slow.
- 14:54Speaker 4: I wrote Confessions. I wrote you Got It Bad, I
- 14:56Speaker 4: wrote my Boo. I wrote all these songs. I mean,
- 15:00Speaker 4: you know, people be like breaking it down when they
- 15:02Speaker 4: talk about it, and they say Confessions, but nice and Slow,
- 15:06Speaker 4: all these songs I wrote, you know what I mean, Like,
- 15:08Speaker 4: so it's just the story of Confessions. I think took
- 15:12Speaker 4: over and it was like I was that guy. I
- 15:15Speaker 4: was the person that was in that position.
- 15:17Speaker 3: But it happened right when he broke up with Chili.
- 15:19Speaker 3: So people were just assumed that he was writing it
- 15:22Speaker 3: about Chili.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was your story, yeah for something.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean even when writing there, I didn't
- 15:27Speaker 4: think about I wouldn't even think about that. You know,
- 15:30Speaker 4: you just go to the studio, you write songs, it's
- 15:32Speaker 4: not even about I mean, sometimes you have a motive
- 15:35Speaker 4: behind it.
- 15:35Speaker 1: But we was trying to just follow up. I know,
- 15:38Speaker 1: I was. I was trying to follow up. You got
- 15:39Speaker 1: it back.
- 15:40Speaker 4: It just came off eighty seven to one, and it
- 15:42Speaker 4: was a big album, So it was like, what y'all
- 15:44Speaker 4: gonna do this time?
- 15:46Speaker 6: Is usually the biggest jewel in your crown? The biggest
- 15:48Speaker 6: what the biggest jewel in your crown?
- 15:50Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean Mariah Carey song Song of
- 15:54Speaker 1: the Decade.
- 15:56Speaker 6: Yeah, that Pasion was a monster.
- 15:58Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. There's a couple in there.
- 16:03Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely. Well, let me say this.
- 16:07Speaker 4: Rolling Stone said that Russia's is the I mean Confessions
- 16:12Speaker 4: is the R and B the number one R and
- 16:14Speaker 4: B record of this twenty first century, right or twentieth century,
- 16:17Speaker 4: whatever it is, twenty first century. So I mean, if
- 16:20Speaker 4: that's the if that's a true statement, then I guess so.
- 16:23Speaker 4: I mean that's a big record. That's a big statement.
- 16:25Speaker 5: Do you think Atlanta as a whole is getting documented properly?
- 16:30Speaker 6: No?
- 16:31Speaker 4: That's why another reason why I want to make sure
- 16:33Speaker 4: that this documentary gets the stage that is on shout
- 16:36Speaker 4: out to Hulu Disney mass Appeal for actually allowing us
- 16:40Speaker 4: to finally tell our story on this stage, because just
- 16:44Speaker 4: the first story from the South that's ever been told.
- 16:49Speaker 4: And when I say that, I said that south by
- 16:50Speaker 4: Southwestern people was like what And I'm like, what's the
- 16:54Speaker 4: what's in Atlanta story that you know?
- 16:56Speaker 1: What's the Southern story that you know? You from the South?
- 16:59Speaker 4: What what stories do we have that people know about
- 17:02Speaker 4: the South? Besides at l is not a story of
- 17:04Speaker 4: of the South, of the South riseing the culture hip hop.
- 17:08Speaker 4: This is the first time that we get a story
- 17:12Speaker 4: about our culture and how outcast popped?
- 17:16Speaker 1: How why you know, social death? Oh damn? Why Luke
- 17:20Speaker 1: said bank head and scarred? What was the reason for that?
- 17:23Speaker 1: Like you ain't never wondered?
- 17:24Speaker 4: Like he from Miami he talking about bank head bounce,
- 17:26Speaker 4: Like why he was saying that Freaknick, Freaknick.
- 17:30Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 17:30Speaker 4: And this is the first time that, like I said,
- 17:34Speaker 4: the South gets set that look, I mean we was
- 17:36Speaker 4: never we was. I think Hollywood never felt like our
- 17:40Speaker 4: stories was important.
- 17:41Speaker 3: If Freaknick never happened, woul Atlanta music blow up as
- 17:45Speaker 3: fast as it did.
- 17:46Speaker 4: No, because what's that little thing with the you know
- 17:50Speaker 4: when when when you put the little roach trap down
- 17:52Speaker 4: and the roaches get in there and they go back
- 17:54Speaker 4: to the they yeah, ray, but it's a little trap
- 18:00Speaker 4: and they take the food back to that. That's what
- 18:02Speaker 4: Freaknick was for the South. People from Virginia, people from
- 18:06Speaker 4: New York, people from Baltimore, people from DC, people from
- 18:09Speaker 4: everywhere came to Atlanta. The DJs in Atlanta was playing
- 18:13Speaker 4: bass music, so so that based all stars Luke Skywalker,
- 18:16Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. Kids went back to their hoods saying, Yo,
- 18:21Speaker 4: we was in Atlanta. This is the new shit they
- 18:23Speaker 4: playing Atlanta. Well, this is the shit that was we
- 18:25Speaker 4: was doing in Freaknik. Or they somebody saw the video
- 18:28Speaker 4: and that's why the music spread that way, right, That's
- 18:31Speaker 4: why it spread it in so many places, because these
- 18:33Speaker 4: people took it back home as if they had discovered
- 18:37Speaker 4: some new thing that wasn't happening in the house in
- 18:40Speaker 4: their neighborhoods. And at that point, if you take it
- 18:43Speaker 4: to you know, if five hundred people go back to
- 18:46Speaker 4: Virginia with the same mentality and it spread, then Virginia
- 18:50Speaker 4: starts sounding like Atlanta, right or whatever. That's you know, so, no,
- 18:54Speaker 4: it wouldn't. I think Freaknick was definitely our mixtape, you
- 18:57Speaker 4: know what I mean. Freaknick was our mixtape that made
- 19:00Speaker 4: people say, oh, there's some shit going on down there.
- 19:03Speaker 1: It's some you know what I mean. So that's definitely it.
- 19:05Speaker 4: We I don't know what would have happened if we,
- 19:08Speaker 4: you know, it would have been a slower pace.
- 19:10Speaker 3: How bad was it when the labels it seemed like,
- 19:11Speaker 3: you know, watching the doc I seen Craig Mac performing,
- 19:14Speaker 3: I've seen Biggie performing. How bad was it when the
- 19:17Speaker 3: label started touching Freak nigg it commercialize it to make
- 19:19Speaker 3: it worse?
- 19:20Speaker 2: Not at all, No, it was all good.
- 19:21Speaker 4: I think that was in People Park, So you know
- 19:24Speaker 4: that scene when I'm showing you when I'm talking, I'm
- 19:26Speaker 4: standing in the parking.
- 19:27Speaker 5: That was.
- 19:28Speaker 1: That was the park stuff, and that was the concerts.
- 19:30Speaker 4: Actually was helping because all these black people in the
- 19:34Speaker 4: park smoking weed, drinking, doing whatever they want to do.
- 19:37Speaker 4: Because if nobody was governing this right, it was just
- 19:41Speaker 4: you know, y'all niggas want to go do.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Go ahead. That's how the city was open to it.
- 19:45Speaker 4: So they was just out there, and we never was
- 19:48Speaker 4: nobody was scared about violence. Wasn't nobody thinking about somebody
- 19:51Speaker 4: pulling out a gun or anything, but that could have happened.
- 19:54Speaker 4: So to give music and put music out there, and
- 19:58Speaker 4: then put artists on the shows that just from the
- 20:01Speaker 4: South definitely helped because then people from the North or
- 20:05Speaker 4: whatever west coast they came and they was.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Like, oh, snoop, here this person, you know what I'm saying.
- 20:09Speaker 4: So you start feeling even more comfortable amongst all of
- 20:11Speaker 4: these people.
- 20:12Speaker 5: And now you're about to turn around and do the
- 20:14Speaker 5: Magic City document series, right, Yeah, Magic City in American fantasy.
- 20:17Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what it's about.
- 20:21Speaker 4: But it's also the same thing as a story about
- 20:23Speaker 4: Magic City. That that that I don't think people know, Like,
- 20:28Speaker 4: the story of Magic City is so much more deeper
- 20:32Speaker 4: than just a strip club, right, and how Magic figured
- 20:38Speaker 4: out a way to make this one club.
- 20:43Speaker 1: A worldwide situation, you know what I mean.
- 20:44Speaker 4: And then people always keep saying they like, why is
- 20:46Speaker 4: Drake and Bob Because Drake it's from a different country
- 20:51Speaker 4: and he wants to come to.
- 20:52Speaker 1: A little bitty strip club in Atlanta.
- 20:54Speaker 4: That's crazy, right that that I don't even know how
- 20:58Speaker 4: you're supposed to think about that because I'm not from
- 21:00Speaker 4: a different country. But I'm saying that being a different country.
- 21:03Speaker 4: We in the United States, I don't want to go to.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Ain't nothing.
- 21:06Speaker 4: I heard nothing about nothing in Canada that make me
- 21:09Speaker 4: want to fly there on a Monday and be a
- 21:11Speaker 4: part of it.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Right this place?
- 21:13Speaker 4: Is that crazy that it's made people in Toronto want
- 21:18Speaker 4: to come to.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Atlanta on Monday. I think you have to hear about this.
- 21:21Speaker 4: So it's just like I said, it's just highlighting things
- 21:25Speaker 4: that happened in the South that we haven't we haven't
- 21:27Speaker 4: had an opportunity.
- 21:28Speaker 5: So what helped elevate the Atlanta music scene more freaknik
- 21:31Speaker 5: in Magic City?
- 21:32Speaker 1: Freaknik?
- 21:33Speaker 2: Really?
- 21:34Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 21:34Speaker 5: Okay, because you always hear about records breaking in Magic City?
- 21:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, I think and that was after
- 21:40Speaker 4: the fact that by the way, that's me saying that.
- 21:42Speaker 4: That was that was something that I talked about. And
- 21:45Speaker 4: once again, like I said, you got to remember, I
- 21:47Speaker 4: wasn't in the clubs in eighty eighty two, eighty three,
- 21:52Speaker 4: eighty four. I couldn't get in no clubs. So I
- 21:54Speaker 4: wasn't even making music in eighty four. But so even
- 21:58Speaker 4: in ninety two when Chris came out. I still I
- 22:00Speaker 4: was only nineteen. I still couldn't even get into Magic City.
- 22:04Speaker 4: So that that period where I felt like the strip
- 22:08Speaker 4: club became the mixtape was a later nineties activity. Before that,
- 22:13Speaker 4: Freak Nick was running the show.
- 22:16Speaker 6: Damn, I saw you. I think it was with Gail
- 22:18Speaker 6: King and Carrie Champion and all them.
- 22:20Speaker 5: You were talking about how if you if a woman
- 22:22Speaker 5: couldn't understand you being in the script club, she wasn't
- 22:24Speaker 5: the woman for you. Yeah, so that was a deal
- 22:28Speaker 5: break off the time.
- 22:30Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm saying, like, I'm gonna use you just
- 22:34Speaker 4: as an example. If me and Jess was talking and
- 22:37Speaker 4: she came to Atlanta and I said we're going to
- 22:40Speaker 4: Magic City tonight, and she was like, well, you know,
- 22:43Speaker 4: I don't really fuck with no strip clubs. At that point,
- 22:48Speaker 4: you you have broke our synergy. You flew to Atlanta
- 22:51Speaker 4: to stay at my house while I go party with
- 22:54Speaker 4: my homeboys. Now when you went, But I'm saying, but
- 22:59Speaker 4: when I go to the strip club as a woman,
- 23:02Speaker 4: her mind's gonna start doing this.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Right.
- 23:05Speaker 4: I asked you to come with me so that your
- 23:07Speaker 4: mind wouldn't do that. But you want to stay at
- 23:09Speaker 4: home and wait till I get back, and then come back,
- 23:14Speaker 4: possibly smelling like a strip club.
- 23:17Speaker 6: The questions.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Then were gonna have a beef? You fucked it up
- 23:22Speaker 1: from the jump? Oh, I fuck it up by allowing
- 23:25Speaker 1: you to just stay at home. I should have just
- 23:27Speaker 1: made you come.
- 23:28Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, ultimately, if this is part of
- 23:31Speaker 4: your life, this is part of my life. So if
- 23:33Speaker 4: you're gonna fuck with me, you gotta know that that's happening.
- 23:36Speaker 4: That's gonna happen, right. It's interesting. When I was dating Janet,
- 23:41Speaker 4: I try to not take her. I was, but I
- 23:47Speaker 4: fought it for the longest. I wasn't in the space
- 23:50Speaker 4: mindset that I'm in right now. Because I didn't. I
- 23:52Speaker 4: wasn't paying attention to it. Like the way I'm telling you.
- 23:56Speaker 4: I was thinking like, oh, if I take her in,
- 23:58Speaker 4: and when of them girls gonna tap me on my
- 23:59Speaker 4: shoulder that I haven't been with and she gonna know,
- 24:01Speaker 4: And then I was thinking about all the bullshit. Yeah, nah,
- 24:05Speaker 4: if this is what you do, what you did in
- 24:08Speaker 4: your past is your past. I'm with you now. Let
- 24:10Speaker 4: me see what's happening. Why you want to go there
- 24:12Speaker 4: every Monday. That's what her question was, Fuck it, let's go.
- 24:16Speaker 6: Did she understand after she went why you wanted to
- 24:18Speaker 6: be there every Monday?
- 24:19Speaker 1: Yeah? Of course.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Now when does JD get to tell his story?
- 24:23Speaker 1: Right?
- 24:23Speaker 3: Because there's so many, so many, I would say, people
- 24:26Speaker 3: in the industry that are successful from the JD tree, Right,
- 24:28Speaker 3: we can go back from of course Little John and
- 24:31Speaker 3: school to Braun and we can go to you know,
- 24:34Speaker 3: across Usher and the stuff you did with Mariah. You
- 24:36Speaker 3: can go to myself and Neil who manages Rice and Tyler.
- 24:41Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know that story. So when
- 24:43Speaker 3: does JD create that story and goes through it so
- 24:45Speaker 3: people can understand what you've did, what you produced, the
- 24:48Speaker 3: artists you've broken, the executives and talent that you created.
- 24:52Speaker 4: I mean, I think the freak nick Dot helps that
- 24:55Speaker 4: get helps me get into that space because you know,
- 25:00Speaker 4: for the longest, the South has been ignored. It's just
- 25:02Speaker 4: what it is, and I'm part of I'm part of
- 25:06Speaker 4: that cloth that's been ignored. You gotta think at nineteen
- 25:11Speaker 4: I put out my first group that everybody knows, and
- 25:16Speaker 4: I wrote and produced every line in every beat in
- 25:19Speaker 4: the music. At nineteen, if a person and they first
- 25:23Speaker 4: single was a number one, top one hundred.
- 25:26Speaker 1: Single, right, Kris Krust.
- 25:29Speaker 4: If that was sports like football and basketball, they'd call
- 25:35Speaker 4: me a freaking nature right. But the fact that it
- 25:37Speaker 4: was the South, they treated us like we weren't even
- 25:40Speaker 4: hip hop, like, oh, that's.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Some gimmick shit, like that ain't real hip hop.
- 25:46Speaker 4: So then it made people ignore the fact that I'm
- 25:50Speaker 4: the person who ushered in young people rapping. If it
- 25:53Speaker 4: wasn't for them, you, as a young person, you wouldn't
- 25:56Speaker 4: even know that it was possible that you could have
- 25:58Speaker 4: a record.
- 25:58Speaker 2: There.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Who else has come out out since Bow Wow that
- 26:01Speaker 4: you know, bow was the only other person that did it,
- 26:04Speaker 4: and I put him out. So I'm just saying it's
- 26:07Speaker 4: the stories have been ignored, so somebody, you know, at
- 26:11Speaker 4: least we get one story, and we got two stories
- 26:15Speaker 4: hopefully that you know from that, it'll it'll it'll get
- 26:17Speaker 4: into that space so you can actually see it and
- 26:19Speaker 4: then people won't have this misconception about what they have
- 26:22Speaker 4: about me.
- 26:23Speaker 5: Michael michael By said, you got the whole backwards thing
- 26:25Speaker 5: from from him, the whole backwards clothes actually he said,
- 26:31Speaker 5: he said.
- 26:32Speaker 1: I didn't get it from him.
- 26:35Speaker 4: But BBD was in a space where they was doing
- 26:38Speaker 4: things right, and they were they I think they had
- 26:41Speaker 4: their pants inside out. That's what because I say that
- 26:45Speaker 4: in the song because inside out ABC was wearing they
- 26:49Speaker 4: clothes inside out. So the day that I told Chris
- 26:53Speaker 4: to put his jump on backwards, that's what I was
- 26:56Speaker 4: thinking about. I'm like, they got they clothes on inside out.
- 26:59Speaker 4: Maybe you should turn yours around. I never saw BBD
- 27:03Speaker 4: do it, and I and I and I spoke to
- 27:05Speaker 4: Mike because he got on his cover of his I think,
- 27:09Speaker 4: do me baby, he got a dB a bb D
- 27:12Speaker 4: jacket on that I thought was a leather pullover and
- 27:16Speaker 4: he's like, nah, I have my jacket on back. So
- 27:18Speaker 4: we had a conversation about it. But I didn't I
- 27:20Speaker 4: didn't actually know. We never had.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I never knew that that's what was happening.
- 27:23Speaker 5: And you know, when people talk about you too, JD,
- 27:25Speaker 5: they got to talk about the fact that Mace thanks
- 27:28Speaker 5: you for being the first person to pay him is worth.
- 27:30Speaker 5: You introduced Biggie, you know, to a land in a
- 27:33Speaker 5: lot of ways, and so who so who knows how
- 27:35Speaker 5: that inspired him and j Z with with money anything
- 27:38Speaker 5: was it was an introduction to the South in a
- 27:40Speaker 5: lot of ways.
- 27:41Speaker 6: So you got to get credit for that too.
- 27:42Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. It's like,
- 27:44Speaker 4: like I said, it's been ignored. I mean, that's all.
- 27:47Speaker 4: That's all you could do. Like I said, if you was,
- 27:49Speaker 4: if if I was in New York, I'd be the king.
- 27:55Speaker 4: It's no, it's no way. I mean, even like today,
- 27:58Speaker 4: you don't know a person y'all. Don't have a person
- 28:00Speaker 4: that can come up here this year that had his
- 28:03Speaker 4: first number one record in nineteen ninety two and got
- 28:06Speaker 4: a record that's number one today. You'll never you won't
- 28:08Speaker 4: see nobody else come up here to this station this year.
- 28:11Speaker 2: Damn.
- 28:12Speaker 6: Yeah, that's actually true.
- 28:15Speaker 1: You won't know, not this year.
- 28:17Speaker 4: I mean I don't even probably wan't to have next
- 28:19Speaker 4: year either. But I'm saying no, my first number one
- 28:22Speaker 4: record was in nineteen ninety two. I have the number
- 28:25Speaker 4: one R and B record in the country today.
- 28:27Speaker 5: Do you think it's the media, because even when you
- 28:29Speaker 5: look at it, you were born in Atlanta's run has
- 28:33Speaker 5: been longer than everybody too.
- 28:35Speaker 4: My run has been longer than everybody. That's that's what
- 28:38Speaker 4: I'm saying. That's I think that's another thing, like when
- 28:40Speaker 4: people say Atlanta's run, Yeah, Atlanta's run, but my run
- 28:45Speaker 4: I don't, and I don't. I'm not.
- 28:46Speaker 1: I don't.
- 28:46Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a cocky person, but I don't be
- 28:48Speaker 4: one to just like, hey, you know what I mean.
- 28:50Speaker 4: I represent the city, so I let the whole city
- 28:54Speaker 4: get the splash for it.
- 28:56Speaker 1: But my run has been longer than anybody.
- 28:59Speaker 6: If you don't tell your story, JD, nobody else is.
- 29:01Speaker 1: No. I'm gonna tell it. You believe me.
- 29:03Speaker 4: That's why it's important that you watch Freak Nick on Thursday.
- 29:07Speaker 4: Y'all run them streams up at Hulu, so that Hulu
- 29:10Speaker 4: calls me and says, hey, we need your story.
- 29:12Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Social Deft too write how you relaunch your social death.
- 29:15Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:16Speaker 3: As far as label for artists you have or you're
- 29:17Speaker 3: looking for artists, I know you got to go, but
- 29:19Speaker 3: are you looking for artists?
- 29:20Speaker 2: And are you putting the sign back up in Atlanta?
- 29:21Speaker 1: And that says, oh, yeah, I'm putting a sign back up.
- 29:24Speaker 4: I'm going if I'm supposed to say this, but anyway
- 29:26Speaker 4: I can say, I'm gonna say it anyway. You know,
- 29:29Speaker 4: BMF comes to Atlanta or they're in Atlanta right now.
- 29:33Speaker 4: And you'll see in the BMF series that the sign
- 29:38Speaker 4: goes back up. And at that point when that happened,
- 29:41Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, you know, as many niggas watch this,
- 29:44Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna have to put this sign back up
- 29:46Speaker 4: because you know what I mean. So now we're gonna
- 29:47Speaker 4: put it back up on an artist tip. I'm looking
- 29:51Speaker 4: for new artists. It's just my you know's, That's what
- 29:53Speaker 4: I wanted. I wanted a space for me to continue
- 29:56Speaker 4: to keep putting out new artists. I love putting out
- 29:59Speaker 4: new artists. I'm not scared to put out new artists,
- 30:02Speaker 4: and I don't think nobody else could do it better
- 30:04Speaker 4: than me.
- 30:05Speaker 6: When you paid Mace what he was worth, did you
- 30:07Speaker 6: do that just the upstated.
- 30:08Speaker 1: He No, I don't you know. When I pay people,
- 30:10Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 30:11Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm paying them more than you know.
- 30:14Speaker 4: I don't I don't know that that's you know. I
- 30:17Speaker 4: don't have that conversation. I I just go after what
- 30:22Speaker 4: I want, like if you so, if I wanted, you know,
- 30:25Speaker 4: when I signed, Harlem wore I wanted to make the
- 30:27Speaker 4: deal because Mace kept telling everybody in every interview that
- 30:30Speaker 4: he did that he came to Atlanta to meet with me, right,
- 30:34Speaker 4: So I actually felt like I fucked up, Right, So
- 30:36Speaker 4: I felt like, damn, I fucked up and I missed
- 30:38Speaker 4: this nigga Mason. He out here killing it. So I'm like,
- 30:42Speaker 4: you know what, let's make this deal. And he told
- 30:44Speaker 4: me what he wanted to do, and I didn't think
- 30:47Speaker 4: about it twice. I just was like, let's do the deal.
- 30:50Speaker 4: I ain't know I was giving him more money than
- 30:52Speaker 4: he was. You know, I never knew that.
- 30:55Speaker 2: They have it. Ladies and gentlemen, you main't freak Nick
- 30:58Speaker 2: this Thursday and appreciate you.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Brough Congratulations money Long.
- 31:01Speaker 4: Let me say this, she might be watching Congratulations Money Long.
- 31:05Speaker 4: Number one record. It's an R and B song, no rap,
- 31:10Speaker 4: number one urban record in the country.
- 31:13Speaker 2: It's Jumaine dupre Yeah, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
- 31:16Speaker 2: Wake that.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club.