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S6 E14: Unapologetic · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: 15 degrees, you can see your breath.
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  Speaker 2: Out here in the lake of fact Breaking tables like
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  Speaker 2: it's poetry.
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  Speaker 1: Where else would you have to be?
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  Speaker 2: Lintel, Ron, Elvis and the Leigh Ponshaw The members that
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  Speaker 2: you need to know Cause once you're out here, now
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  Speaker 2: you're family.
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  Speaker 1: Where else would you have to be? Welcome in to
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  Speaker 1: the Nickel City Crew. I am your host, Rob Crippen.
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  Speaker 3: for some of your Buffalo Bills and NFL content again today.
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  Speaker 3: And as always, these are my Bills thoughts said out loud.
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  Speaker 2: It's a vibe so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Alright, let's get straight to it. Really excited for tonight's
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  Speaker 3: episode as always. Bills are 3-0 and I named the
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  Speaker 3: episode the way that I did because this time of year, man,
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  Speaker 3: I really don't have many sorries to give out.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. I'm all about stacking wins.
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  Speaker 3: I'm all about getting that one seed for the first
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  Speaker 3: time in Josh Allen's era.
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  Speaker 1: And I really am unapologetic. We'll talk it. We'll figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. We'll talk about the bad.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of, a lot of bad stuff from
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  Speaker 3: last week, but help me tonight to kind of get
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  Speaker 3: through it. Listen, we appreciate you meeting us a night
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  Speaker 3: early on Thursday from our normal Friday slot. My co-host
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  Speaker 3: riding shotgun, as always, Adam dump truck, rubsick, check him
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  Speaker 3: out on Instagram and Twitter at Adam rubsick. R U
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  Speaker 3: P C Z Y K. Holler at the crew DT. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: you're not going to get too many sorries for me
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  Speaker 3: this week. I mean, we got to go through it
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  Speaker 3: because it was bad, but I mean, I'm not saying sorry,
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  Speaker 3: but only too many times, man, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Put the ball down and play the motto all year,
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  Speaker 2: 1-0 each week. Three weeks we've gone 1-0 and now
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  Speaker 2: we're into four. That's all it is. I like that
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  Speaker 2: mindset by Joe Brady and the boys, and it's been
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  Speaker 2: a perfect, successful game plan thus far. Happy Friday, or jeez, Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: Nickel City crew. You know, I get used to the
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  Speaker 2: Friday night lights and click, clack, we back, but You know,
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  Speaker 2: DT the mayor, we got places to be, cities to visit,
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  Speaker 2: weddings to attend. That's how we do it, Nickel City Crew.
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  Speaker 2: So we moved the schedule around a little bit. I
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  Speaker 2: think last year was a wild September, October for myself
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I appreciate the fans riding with us.
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  Speaker 2: Rob, thanks for moving things around. But this is home.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad we could get it in, lock into this
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  Speaker 2: 3-0 Thursday night special. Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about it before we get to, This
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  Speaker 3: week's game, you know, I have no problem accommodating. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you're my brother from another Bill's mother. Man, listen, it
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  Speaker 3: was bad, DT, and it's fine that it was bad
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  Speaker 3: because the score came out the right way. Bill's obviously won,
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  Speaker 3: beat the Chargers at home 24-16. Five turnovers, which I
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  Speaker 3: know that that raises eyebrows for sure. DT, listen, here's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm going to say on it, and we'll go
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  Speaker 3: through the game and stuff like that. I anticipated it
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  Speaker 3: being a tight game. I told you that last week.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't think it was going to be some crazy blowout,
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  Speaker 3: and that was just my feel of it. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know if it was going to be three points. I
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  Speaker 3: said maybe seven or ten or something like that because
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  Speaker 3: ten points to me is still not a crazy big win. DT,
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  Speaker 3: it starts off with a James Cook fumble, and, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's literally first play from scrimmage. I saw a stat
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  Speaker 3: the other day that said that he has now fumbled in, like,
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  Speaker 3: eight of, like, the last.
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  Speaker 1: 19 games, and I'm like, really?
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  Speaker 3: And, like, listen, as soon as he fumbled, I'm yelling
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  Speaker 3: at the TV. You know, I've got my Kings here
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  Speaker 3: with me. And I'm yelling because I told you that
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  Speaker 3: I had Nate and Quincy, and I'm like, I said,
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  Speaker 3: this is the only way that they can beat us
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  Speaker 3: today is if we give them the game.
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  Speaker 1: This is the only way that they'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: beat us.
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  Speaker 3: And it kind of bore out DT because of the
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  Speaker 3: fact that we kept giving them the ball, we kept
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  Speaker 3: giving them opportunities, and it was just their ineptitude that
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  Speaker 3: led to them not being able to capitalize.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that the Bills did.
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  Speaker 3: We should have lost the game, and that's the reason
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  Speaker 3: that I named the episode the way that it did
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  Speaker 3: because I'm not apologizing for shit.
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  Speaker 1: We're 3-0, and it's on to the next one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, five turnovers and you cover a touchdown plus spread, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's really how you look at it in
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  Speaker 2: the hardest league to win ever in the NFL where
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  Speaker 2: that matters most. And the Chargers, who allegedly were a
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  Speaker 2: playoff team before the season starts, now you go in
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  Speaker 2: and cover that spread after five turnovers. But James Cook
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  Speaker 2: fumbling on play one, that's like the thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: his first carry ever in the Rams on that Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night opener, he fumbled. So it's like he's doing it
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  Speaker 2: early in games, and that's a big number. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize it was that many. Half the games, he's putting
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  Speaker 2: the ball on the ground. That's not good. But as well,
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  Speaker 2: on the reverse side of that, he's the leading rusher,
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  Speaker 2: and he bounces back Sunday and has 150 yards and
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown. He is– there's no– You can't get away
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  Speaker 2: from that. You can't get away from fumbling that many
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  Speaker 2: times and not being ridiculed for it. But he does
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  Speaker 2: a damn good job of making up for it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: busting out for 150 yards when we need him to and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being the rushing leader last year. It seems
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  Speaker 2: he gets very focused on it, like he has some
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  Speaker 2: fumbling issues, and then he digs in for a couple real,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he goes on a stretch where he's really
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  Speaker 2: good about it. I'm not necessarily like if it happens
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs and cost us, obviously that's, that's another thing.
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  Speaker 2: But right now I'm not like too worried about that.
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  Speaker 2: Even when you said the nine of 18 number, that's
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  Speaker 2: a huge number in the NFL for a running back,
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  Speaker 2: but the backs that, you know, are fumbling, aren't backing
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  Speaker 2: it up with what James Cook does on the back
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  Speaker 2: end of that. So we start with that turnover. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the best. You can't start the game with that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, The times when he does fumble, they beat
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  Speaker 2: the Rams in that game of the opener. But Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen throws a pick on the first play in a
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  Speaker 2: few games, and they never get it back against New England.
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  Speaker 2: And Drake May, a few years ago in New England
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  Speaker 2: on that flute game, that was a pick first play.
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  Speaker 2: And so that turnover first play is not how you
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  Speaker 2: draw it up and how you get it started. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily too worried about it. Even though that
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  Speaker 2: number's big, James Cook does a good job of making
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  Speaker 2: up for it.
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  Speaker 3: He does a good job of making up for it. However,
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  Speaker 3: it's not something that you want to live by.
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  Speaker 1: How about that? This is not the recipe.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so listen, after that, you know, it's kind of,
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting because this is the type of game where
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  Speaker 3: you can really talk about complimentary football. You can talk about,
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  Speaker 3: you know, all the coaches love that coach speak and
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  Speaker 3: shit like that. And this is really one of those games, DT,
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  Speaker 3: where it kind of, it kind of married in together.
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  Speaker 3: The defense shows that they do have a backbone. They
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  Speaker 3: do show that they are, they're learning, they're getting their way.
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  Speaker 3: I always said that I expected it to take time
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  Speaker 3: That was always my position was that it was not
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  Speaker 3: going to be something that was a finished product early
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  Speaker 3: in the year. It, it still is not a finished
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  Speaker 3: product if you ask me. And I think that Jim
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  Speaker 3: Leonard and the defenders would tell you the same, the
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  Speaker 3: same thing, but this was a complimentary football type of
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  Speaker 3: game DT, where, I mean, you fumble, you give them
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  Speaker 3: great field position, they score a touchdown. And then after that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you, you had a couple of punts and
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  Speaker 3: then you enter, you know, Josh was at interception and
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  Speaker 3: like they bow up and they hold them to three.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a 10, nothing game when, It could easily
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  Speaker 3: be 14-0. And I thought that it was really important
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  Speaker 3: for them to have that stop right there when they
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  Speaker 3: did stop them to three points after that interception on
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  Speaker 3: that Josh Allen throw. Because to me, it was like, listen,
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  Speaker 3: this game can get out of hand quick and it
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  Speaker 3: can get to a point where you're playing catch up
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of the way. 10-0 is not that
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  Speaker 3: big of a deal when you've got Josh Allen. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: some other quarterbacks would be a big deal. It's not
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  Speaker 3: that big of a deal when you've got Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that it was a sneaky big play at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the first quarter when they held them
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  Speaker 3: to three points because I just thought that it was
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  Speaker 3: a big momentum swing, even though I know that we
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  Speaker 3: threw another pick right after, so I know that it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily make sense.
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  Speaker 1: But they had a missed field goal after the next pick.
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  Speaker 3: So it really, for me, started from that first pick,
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  Speaker 3: holding them to a field goal, keeping it at 10-0,
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  Speaker 3: where everything is still in tracking distance.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how I felt about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you look the week before when the Bills,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't necessarily turnovers, but they're getting the ball,
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting the ball stopped on forcing Detroit to
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  Speaker 2: punt and getting up 21-0 quick, you know, and Detroit
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  Speaker 2: did everything they could to get back into it, and
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  Speaker 2: you just can't in the NFL. You just can't come
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  Speaker 2: back from 20 points, you know, especially against a good team,
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  Speaker 2: and so that was something that could have happened on
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  Speaker 2: Sunday with the Chargers not even doing great to get
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  Speaker 2: up on us by three scores early, and Doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: how the momentum shifts or how good you are. It's
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  Speaker 2: tough to come back from that, especially in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: So it, you know, it was, I thought those stops
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  Speaker 2: were big as well. Out of the five turnovers, two
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  Speaker 2: were on our side of the field, right? Two or, or,
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  Speaker 2: or where was it?
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  Speaker 1: Three.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was three.
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  Speaker 2: I think three were on our side of the field and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and to really only to only give up
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  Speaker 2: 10 points off of five turnovers and three being on
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  Speaker 2: your own. And I thought that was a testament to
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  Speaker 2: the defense. It kind of put them, you know, back
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  Speaker 2: against the wall. If you let this up, this game
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  Speaker 2: could get out of hand quick. And Josh Allen might
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  Speaker 2: not even have a shot later on, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: do that. I want to talk about that first pick.
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  Speaker 2: That's something we don't, you know, Josh throws picks. He has,
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  Speaker 2: but that's, he doesn't throw picks like that. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's more of like the second one to DJ
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  Speaker 2: more of him, just hawking one up and the triple
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  Speaker 2: coverage and an arm pun, if you will, even though
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  Speaker 2: it was on first down.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if you've read the coverage. It
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  Speaker 1: was quarters. It was clear quarters. I don't, know, man.
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  Speaker 2: Here's, you know, I heard GR and their take on
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, because it was like a fluent,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he dropped back, he's in his read, he
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  Speaker 2: looks and he fires. It's not like he hesitated and
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  Speaker 2: took anything off it. He stepped him through. Now, they
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  Speaker 2: were saying a young safety might have been, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a misread put him in a spot to pick that
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  Speaker 2: ball off. Like Josh's look off, the safety wasn't good
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  Speaker 2: enough to go for the look off. So like he
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  Speaker 2: was Yeah, he tried to look to the left. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he missed his read as the safety, and then he
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  Speaker 2: was just– oh, he was just right there because he
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  Speaker 2: should have been on the other side of the field
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  Speaker 2: where Josh takes all the safeties and, like, the veterans,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So it was like he was almost inexperienced
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  Speaker 2: and missed the read, which put him, ironically, in the
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  Speaker 2: best spot for the pick. But I don't think it
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  Speaker 2: was that, Rob. I genuinely think– I mean, shout-out Nickel
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  Speaker 2: City crew. Shout-out Nickel City crew uniforms. But these uniforms, man,
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  Speaker 2: like– They weren't, they did not, even though we win
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  Speaker 2: the ball game in them, they do not help the
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  Speaker 2: cause of what I really think of them. The aura
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  Speaker 2: is not there, but Hey, we stick to them because
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  Speaker 2: the show we have.
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  Speaker 1: To, but I think it was, it was.
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  Speaker 2: Close, man. It was like the white and the gray
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  Speaker 2: on a quick turn when in split second decision-making it's
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  Speaker 2: closer than you think it looked close on TV. And
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  Speaker 2: I think in the game with the, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: blue match with there, it, I don't think he saw
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  Speaker 2: the guy. I don't think he saw the guy's jersey.
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  Speaker 2: And as he let it go, he's like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 2: a white jersey. And he puts it on him. So
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  Speaker 2: that's my take on the pick. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: a jersey pick. Jersey pick.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I love you so much. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they have on blue helmets. I mean, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I could go with that. I don't know. I mean, maybe. Now, listen. Now, listen. I.
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  Speaker 3: I really feel like, you know, Greg Grusso, obviously playing again,
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  Speaker 3: he's the first player, I think they said in NFL history,
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  Speaker 3: said sacks were stat and sats became a stat in 82.
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  Speaker 3: That first three games, two sacks apiece, leading the NFL. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: he was just named AFC Player of the Month. Congratulations
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  Speaker 3: to him. I thought that he, you know, he helped
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  Speaker 3: a lot. I love CJ's game. CJ, GJ played a
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  Speaker 3: really good game besides the pick.
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  Speaker 1: Itself. He played a really good game. He was all
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  Speaker 1: over the field.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about that parts of stopping on those turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: He was a big part of getting them off the
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  Speaker 2: field there on third down twice on those come downs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really enjoyed his game. And it was funny
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  Speaker 3: because all they needed was a little bit of hope.
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  Speaker 3: All they needed was a little bit more time. That's
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  Speaker 3: all Josh needed. And then obviously they have a nice
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  Speaker 3: 10 play 80 yard drive to tie it up right
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  Speaker 3: before halftime at 1010.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought that that was really key to the game.
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  Speaker 3: DT, because it was clear to me, just like the
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  Speaker 3: Denver game was clear to me, we were the better team.
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  Speaker 3: I was able to tell early on in the game
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  Speaker 3: that we were better than them. Even though we were
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  Speaker 3: turning the ball over, even though we weren't doing the
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  Speaker 3: things that we were supposed to be doing, I never
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  Speaker 3: thought that the Chargers were better than us. And it
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  Speaker 3: was bearing out after halftime. I never thought Denver was
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  Speaker 3: better than us last year in that divisional round. And
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  Speaker 3: it bore out for most of the game. And then
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  Speaker 3: obviously overtime was kind of wonky. DT, pressure bus pipes.
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  Speaker 3: the cream rises to the crop, whatever you want to say,
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  Speaker 3: whatever cliche you want to use.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that the bills were better.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought that, that I thought that the charges
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  Speaker 3: fucked up basically by letting us be tied by the
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  Speaker 3: end of that first half, because he had two turnovers
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  Speaker 3: from Josh Allen and it wasn't really necessarily a situation
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  Speaker 3: where it's not, not Josh Allen, but she had James
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  Speaker 3: cook fumbling on the first play from scrimmage of Josh
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  Speaker 3: Allen pick.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that that was their opportunity to jump on
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  Speaker 1: us quick. They didn't.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought that we made him pay for it
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  Speaker 3: after that, because at that point in time, it's a game.
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  Speaker 3: And you've got a quarterback and an offensive coordinator who
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  Speaker 3: are struggling. So I really never was really worried about
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  Speaker 3: the game. I just was so mad that the turnovers
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  Speaker 3: kept keeping it close, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, don't get us wrong, Nick City crew.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to win a game, turn the ball
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  Speaker 2: over five times. I mean, if you play 10 games
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  Speaker 2: and turn the ball over five times in each of
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  Speaker 2: those games, you're well under 500. I'd bet the farm
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  Speaker 2: on that, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. So the huge going
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  Speaker 2: into the half tied game, They got the ball at
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  Speaker 2: halftime as well. We've been getting the ball to start
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  Speaker 2: the game. So they got the ball at halftime. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: building a lead, even if it's 10-3, and then you
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  Speaker 2: get the ball on 17-3 before the Bills even touch
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  Speaker 2: the ball again, that's how you put a good team away.
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  Speaker 2: That's how you put Josh Allen away. And it had
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  Speaker 2: to be, you know, they just couldn't close the door
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  Speaker 2: whenever it came. I don't think they... they were expecting it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to be honest, I don't think that if
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  Speaker 2: the game plan was to, you know, limit, limit the
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  Speaker 2: bills offense or whatever, blah, blah, blah, whatever your game
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  Speaker 2: plan is going into, into that one. I, then you
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  Speaker 2: get the turnovers. It looked like a team that wasn't
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  Speaker 2: expecting to be competitive. And, you know, and that's, I
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  Speaker 2: was a situation where it, you know, it, it showed like,
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  Speaker 2: that's the gotta be more points to take advantage, especially
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  Speaker 2: when you're in inferior team and going up against Josh
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  Speaker 2: Allen at home and the loudest stadium in the world.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: That has to be something you need to take advantage
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: of if you get that break, and they didn't. It
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: looked like the Chargers weren't ready for the moment. They
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: weren't prepared to be ahead in that game, and when
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: they were, it showed.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it did.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Now, the Bills get things together. Like I said, they
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: come out third quarter. It was still a little bit sloppy.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: There was another fumble that we got back. Again, five turnovers,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: it's a lot. Five turnovers is a lot for sure,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: so it wasn't the best– It wasn't the best of games, but,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: you know, like, listen, the Kincaid fumble was just awareness,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: you know, like, you know, and they didn't get that
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: one back, but it was like, that's just awareness. You
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: just got to know that motherfuckers are trying to get
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: that ball out. Like, you know, it was a beautiful catch,
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: beautiful idea. I wasn't mad at him for trying to
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: get extra yardage or anything like that. You just got
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: to cover up. Sometimes it's just, it's just the simple
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: stuff in football that kind of gets out of hand. DT,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I thought that, I thought that the fourth quarter, you know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: fumble was, it's hard because like, I'm not going to
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: tell Josh Allen not to be Josh Allen.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm not going to tell him to not be
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: who he is.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Like some people were like, well, he was, he's trying to,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: you know, he's overextending himself or he's, he's, um, overestimating his,
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: his power.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, and I'm like, no, I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: don't think he's overestimating his ability. He's doing too much.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't, I never want to tell Superman
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: that he's doing too much. So I never feel like
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: that's the answer. I think that you always should be
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: aware of your surroundings, stuff like that.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I don't know, man. I, I'll take
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: turnovers with Josh. Like, I will.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Not all of them are great and stuff like that. Like,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: that first interception I thought was just a dumb play.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: The arm punt, I'll kind of give him because I
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: thought that he thought that he was getting a flag.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: But if you don't see a flag coming, then you've
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: got to judge yourself accordingly. I thought that that last
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: fumble was just– sometimes it's just football. Like, the other
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: guys get paid, too. Like, those fumbles on Kincaid and
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Allen are just– it's just football, man. Like, the other
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: guys are trying to rip the ball out.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: They're trying to get, you know– earn their paychecks for
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: the week. I don't think, I don't, I don't like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: to read.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Into it any more than that, but some people.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Think of the force.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: And think of the force having to tackle 17 all day.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, you have to brace for impact when
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: that dude's coming around. And, and so like you are
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: flying into him, you know, way, you know, more recklessly
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: and harder than you're, you're flying in anybody else. And
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: that might result in, you know, just being in a,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: in a good place to get your helmet on the
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: ball and get it loose. that specific one yes I
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: mean get the ball back without it who knows if
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you win the ball game at least you know by
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: by that margin but the he could have easily thrown
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: it away and he could have done that a few
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: other times and not just to turn the ball over
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: but to take a lick you know or going out
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: of bounds to take a hit and you know you
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: see a lot of that in on the college game
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: on Saturdays these quarterbacks just trying everything to you know
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to not Nobody's throwing it away. And I'm not saying
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I want Josh Allen to just throw the ball away
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: when something's not there because that's what makes him great
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and that's what gets the Bills a lot of victories
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: is when there isn't anything there, he extends the play,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: finds something, and it's six. But like you said with
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the Kincaid thing, the awareness has to be there. And obviously,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I think he's coachable on that. But, you know,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the trial by fire when it comes to, like, he
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: also got hit hard on that play too, you know.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So it's a double whammy for him when he's thinking
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: about that, like, man, I put the ball on the ground,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: could have, you know, cost my team, and I'm feeling
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: that hit today too. So, you know, he doesn't need
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: the coach or the film to tell him because it
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: obviously will. I think himself feels that too. I don't
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: think he's just blind to the fact that he put
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the ball on the ground and got licked. I think he,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: you know, I think that sets, you know, that's some
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: precedent set to him. He was a little behind in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: reeling and knew he had to make some things happen
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to win the game. I get that. But there's also,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: you know, he understands there's other ways to win the game,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and he doesn't need to do something. So I don't
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: think it needs like it's a, you know, the coach
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: needs to tell him to quit doing that because he's
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: so oblivious to doing it. I think he can feel
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that for himself. And, you know, okay, next time, you know, one,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: let's not get in that situation where I have to
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: overextend a play. We're up by 30, and I can
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: just throw.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: It out of bounds. Yeah, no, I agree.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Now, Bills, again, as you remember from Sunday, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: they closed it out. I mean, it's just crazy to see.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: We started the episode last week.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Talking about what the hell's wrong with the Chargers, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: they could not get anything together.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It happened again. And really, C.J.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: G.J., his return on that pick in the fourth quarter
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: really set it up where the Bills can go ahead
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: on and score two touchdowns in the end of the
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: game to really put things away.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because D.T. is right.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: We covered, and I never would have thought that we covered.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: In the first quarter, I was like, I'm so happy
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't bet on this damn game.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: We're going to win, but I don't know about how much.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I was so happy. And then by the time the
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: game ends, it's an eight-point win. It's a cover game.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I still don't know how they did that. So shout
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: out to the Bills defense again. It was some of
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: that complimentary football where you see and you have an
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: opportunity to help your offense out until they get shit together.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And they never really got shit together.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: But I heard somebody, they were saying it earlier this
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: week that this, that was a cook game and maybe
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: that's something signed to come. And I'm interested to know
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: what you think about that because I know that there's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: a new approach now with Joe Brady and being aggressive
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I think that he's smart enough
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: to know when to back off. And when I say
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: back off, that means to hit a different pressure point.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: So I don't think that he didn't notice that the
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: run game was working. I don't know if he just
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: had a different feeling on it, but when he needed
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: to lean on it towards the end of the game,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: he did. So to me, I think that he remembers
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: the Dallas game a couple of years ago. I think
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: he remembers, you know, other games where James Cook was
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: just automatic, the Carolina game when you were down here.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I think that he didn't forget about that. So I'm
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: going to give him a little bit of grace. I
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: don't think that it was a situation where he was
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: just trying to go YOLO and stuff like that. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: he wasn't, he was refusing to call run plays in
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: the first half. I think that they were all frustrated.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: The entire offense was frustrated, starting by the first play
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: from scrimmage, and he was just trying to play a
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: little bit of catch-up to get them back on track.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I think that that's what it was. They got away
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: from their game.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Script because the game script got fucking burnt to the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: ground in the first play from scrimmage, and that kind
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: of fucked shit up. So I thought that that was
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: more what it was as opposed to Joe Brady being stubborn,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: not wanting to run the ball. He knows he has
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: James Cook. He's not like the Baltimore coaches. He knows
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: he's got a stud back.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: As much as, you know, disagreeing makes good content in
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the city crew, Rob, I'm right there with you on
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: this one. You know, the narrative being thrown around that
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Joe Brady is free now and he's just trying to
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: rip it 60 yards down the field every play. Like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were doing that just because Joe
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Brady's free now. I think they were doing that because
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: they turned the ball over five times and they were
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: just trying to. set a tone to be like, okay,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: we need to have a big play to get the
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: crowd behind us, to get Josh back, you know, to
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: get everybody pumped up to really close these boys out, right?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: And so I think that was kind of the premise
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of playing catch-up, and that's Joe Brady learning. I mean,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: we've been grateful that we're 3-0, and, you know, we
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: haven't seen as visible a lot of the learning curves,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: but that was kind of one, you know, we saw
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of Joe Brady being able to adjust mid-game, knowing like, okay,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: we we have a game plan we got to get
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: away from our game plan but we need a spark
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: so let's go downfield but then also realizing like okay
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: we can't get reckless going downfield and so he's learning
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: in live motion there the bitching about you know the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: the the low profile offense in those games but then
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: those low profile offense had those games that Dallas game
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that Carolina game and those are things that are going
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to need to happen especially when you have Josh Allen
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: who has cooked the league in the first two weeks, yeah,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: that's a good, good week to throw your runner in
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: there to, you know, to bust some out. So I
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: agree with you. I don't think it's, it's a philosophy
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: thing where he just will never run the ball no
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: matter what. I think they had to get away from
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: the game plan and they, he wanted to spark and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: they were trying to get it. And I mean, what better,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: you know, person to have up there in 17 to,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to give you a spark on a nice deep ball or,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: or whatever they were looking for. So I agree. I mean,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: James Cook still had 150 yards. In the run game,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I will make a point. Something we saw a lot
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of last year was the counter. We saw that counter play,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: and we saw it one time on Sunday. When James
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Cook is one-on-one with a linebacker at the second level,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it's one cut, and he's outside for 20 yards. So
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: that play, I think, needs to be incorporated a little
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: more into the offense of getting back to slowing things down.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But I'd like to see counter a little more, but
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think Brady's just neglecting the run and throwing
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: deep for fun. I think they were just trying to
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: flow with the game, and that's a young coach just
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: trying to catch up there.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Now, we will transition as we do, though.
• 23:27
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  Speaker 1: DT.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: All right. It's a situation where we started off last
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: week saying, what the fuck is wrong with the Chargers?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: DT, what?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: For real, what the fuck is up with Drake May?
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Because this dude, listen, they call him the schedule on Twitter.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: They call him the schedule. I was a big proponent
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: of the fact that his schedule, I mean, I literally
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: put all my chips on that, like the Patriots are
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: coming back this year.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Now, I thought the division would be close.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't expect that after a week four win, if
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: we get it on Sunday, that we would be three
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: games up on them before you're even to Halloween. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: never would have thought that DT, they look bad. The
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars really tore that up last week. They haven't
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: looked good all year. And then the C Drake may
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: stats DT. It's kind of alarming regardless of what you
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: thought of the schedule. If you wanted to call him
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: a schedule merchant last year, I agree with you. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: thought that the schedule definitely helped them out. He's playing
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: like dog shit, regardless of who he's playing against. That is,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: It's eye-opening, DT. I don't know what's going on with
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Drake May, man.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: It's alarming. Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: NFL, man. The NFL. C.J. Stroud had a little taste
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: of that a few years ago. Drake May, even though
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it is technically his third season, it's not the sophomore
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: slump or anything like that, but it's a hard league
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to win inconsistently, and that's why I think anybody that
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: has any doubt of Josh Allen, yes, he hasn't won
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the big one, but to be consistent in this league
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: is unheard of only for the greats, right? So you're
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: going to have some ups and downs. The film is
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: on you. They tried to help him out by going
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: out and getting some receiver help, and A.J. Brown's out.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs not living up to the hype. There's not
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the help they went out to get. It's not there
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: for him right now. you know, the running game, mediocre.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And so it's Drake May just kind of slinging it
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: out there. And I think, yes, the schedule and some breaks.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And as a young player, this happened to Josh too,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: and not that, you know, but this happened to Josh
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: of where he had some early confidence and made some
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: like crazy plays early in his career. And then just
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: thought he could do that all the time. And sometimes
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: he still does that. But I think there was a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: lot of that with Drake May last year. There was
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: like some balls, just deep balls. He just chucked up
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that just were dimes, dots on the corner in the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: end zone, like beautiful balls, you know, to Keyshawn Boudet and,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you know, those, those guys. And now I think it's like,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I'm throwing it to the end zone and it's not
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: hitting my receiver in the hands of the quarter. Like,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's, you know, it's kind of getting real
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that there's, it's, you can't just release it and it
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: works for you in this league. And I, there's going
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: to be work done. And, you know, I think he's,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's, he's done by any means, but,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I hope, I hope another bad week is
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: on tap for him this week and really make the people,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: you know, freak out and really make him question his confidence.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Because right now that's what, just what we talked about
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: with the Chargers, the Chargers were fighting for their life,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: you know, last, last week to be like, are we,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: you know, a decent team that people think we are, or,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: you know, do we suck? And we kind of saw they,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: they probably suck. Um, but you know, in this case,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: we're looking at the same thing for the Patriots. Like, okay,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you know, we're, we were in the Superbowl last year.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: We're building a team here. Drake, may you're the future.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: You had a bad week. This is your bounce back week.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: This is your bounce back week. So it's very similar.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Like you said, you know, to what we see in
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: the chargers, but if they goes out and has another
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: week like that, then it turns to like, it's not
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a bounce back week. It's, you know, the world saying
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: you suck. And, you know, from the, from the, from
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: another bad performance like that. He looked unplayable Sunday. He
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: looked like a backup quarterback in there that just hand
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: the ball off the rest of the game. He looked
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: unplayable Sunday.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I think every game he has gotten worse. The Patriots
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: game was a bad game. He threw up the Seahawks game.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: And then Steelers game, I expected them to win. He
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: wasn't spectacular, but the Steelers were garbage, so I expected
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: them to win.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: They won. And then last week was just like rock bottom.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It was bad. You're right about that. It was pretty
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: dog shit.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: But the pressure was solid from the Jaguars defensive line,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and the pressure was solid in that Seahawks game week one.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And obviously, that's a cliche thing to say. If you
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: pressure the quarterback, he's going to be out of his
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: game and in harder situations. But it seems like the
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: pressure for him, you know, he's not that big of
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a guy, right? And, you know, not Cornelius, North Carolina
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: up there. You know, it's a nice little suburb. It's
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a nice little, you know, nice little town. We play
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: real football at Huff. Don't chill out. We play real
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: football down here. Anyway, you know, but if he's taking
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: licks out there, you know, he's a lot less, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: likely to come back and be motivated for a hit
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: as opposed to, you know, a guy like Josh Allen
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: that doesn't feel it as much. Like, this dude is
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: feeling those those licks and um i just you know
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: i it's a bounce back week for him and that's
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: what they're preaching in the patriots in the new balance
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you know in the new balance center out there um
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: they're preaching the the comeback game but it's the same
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: thing as the charges if he goes out and puts
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: another performance like that there's no narrative of a comeback
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: like you suck now you know until you do something
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: otherwise so that's uh that's that's what he's what he's
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: looming with and i'd like him worrying about that as
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: opposed to worrying about the actual game plan.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I was watching that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: I literally was watching earlier today and like Dan Orlowski,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: who I like because he knows quarterbacks and he was
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: like showing like side shots of like last year, like
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: literally just him, a still shot of him, like getting
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: ready to fire it in 25. And then this year
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: he's like, look at him. And he's like literally, and
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: you can see the difference is like standing straight up.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He's got no pop. And I'm like, Hmm, that's interesting.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know how many plays it wound up being
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: a negative play, but it was interesting how he, He
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: froze for me. He's like, listen, look, you could see
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: the difference. One looks like he's on his toes, ready
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to rip it. And then the next one is kind
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: of speaking to what you said, like, damn, like that
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: didn't work like it did last year.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm wondering how much of it is A.J. Brown
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: not there as well. The prize receiver, stuff like that. But, damn,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: that Jaguars game was pretty bad.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: All right, DT, let's break it down before we get
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: to the tailgate report. The Bills offense against this Patriots defense.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: For me, I think that it's just about cleaning things up. Um,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't want to overreact to Sunday. And,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: and I think that that's really one of the big
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: things for me. Um, personally, I don't want to overreact
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: to it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm watching it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I'm cussing at the TV and stuff like that, but I,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to, Oh man, old sugar high Josh's
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: back and all this stuff.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't believe any of that shit.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: That's why I don't even go on Twitter half the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: time during the games, because it's just so hyperbolic one
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: way or the other. It's, it's, it's, it's just too,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: it's too toxic for me. I'll go on it after
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: the game and I'll, I'll check out what's going on,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: what people thought. I think that you just clean up
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: some of the, some of the small stuff, ball security. That's,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: you know, that's number one thing is making sure that
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: you're taking care of the football. I don't mind if
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Josh throws a pick or two, I take those because
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of what he does on the flip side of that
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: coin DT for me, going up against this defense, their
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: defense is decent. You know, they held, you know, the
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Seahawks down, but.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks, we had a backup quarterback.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: They held the Steelers down, but the Steelers have an
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: old ass, you know, Aaron Rogers for me, The test
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: was last week. They failed that test miserably against a
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: guy who we know very well in Trevor Lawrence.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Clean up your game. Clean up the turnovers.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: As long as you clean up giving a ball to
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: them and giving it to them in advantageous situations where
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: they can score, I don't think that they can hang
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: with you. And that's the combination of 17, his weapons,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: along with Jimbo in the backfield.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think that they can hang. I really don't.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I'm planting my flag.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I do not think this defense can hang with this
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: offense as long as we're not constantly shooting ourselves in
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: the foot on Sunday. Yeah.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, exactly. Right.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Don't have five turnovers and you're all right. The, you know, the,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the premise of this, you know, breakdown though, is, you know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: looking through the, the drives here where, you know, we're,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: when we're not turning the ball over, moving the ball
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: where we're scoring, you know, we, we punted, punted one time.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: What do you mean in the entire game?
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I'd have to fact check that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: One punt. Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one punt. One punt.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, a few of those turnovers might have been punts.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying all those would have been touchdowns. I
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: get that. But, you know, the fact of the matter
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: is we've proven we can move the ball with this
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: offense this year. And what's going to, you know, who
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: with Christian Gonzalez, you know, probably not playing, who's stopping us,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: you know, on the defensive side there. So, the, the
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: back to, we owe them one last year. We wear
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the iced out jerseys at home Sunday night, Patriots come
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: in and beat us in some bullshit. So this is
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: now the new stadium, the home, get the Patriots. It's
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: hate week. I saw a lot of hate week, uh,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: you know, things out there, even though, you know, Tom,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady kind of led us into that last week. And,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: his comment about like, oh yeah, nice stadium. I lost
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: there two games and I was really broke up about
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: it if I didn't win 33, right?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: 34, yeah, he's a dickhead. I couldn't stand Fox's coverage, man.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I could not.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: They showed like all of the worst plays in Buffalo
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: history coming back from a commercial break. I'm like, what
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the fuck is this about? Why is that necessary? It's
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: like second quarter. Don't get me fucking started.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Patriots hate week, but the premise is we're moving the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: ball and we're scoring with this offense. I mean, it's
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Without the fight, we still scored 24 points with five turnovers.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, even let's put a field goal and a
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: touchdown on there. You're at 34 points, and you're at
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: your average for the season, over 30, right? So it's
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: easily getting to 30 points. The Patriots have proved that
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: they probably can't get to 30. So I'm not worried
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: about anything on their defense. Get back in the rhythm.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Get back rolling. On those drives down the stretch, those
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: two scoring drives in the fourth quarter, DJ Moore has
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: five catches. This is what... We bring them in for you. Like, yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: it's fun to score touchdowns, get rocking, but this is
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: down the stretch. We need somebody to go to. Josh
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: is very comfortable going there. We talk about 14 all
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the time. This is what he did with him. It
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't like Diggs. He wasn't force-feeding Diggs the entire game.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It was down the stretch. When we needed somewhere to go,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: he was going to 14. And now you can already
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: see it down the stretch. You need somewhere to go.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: He's going to two. And he brought us into those
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: first downs. Let us into scoring opportunities and finish the
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: game on Sunday. And I think that's what it goes
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: down to. There's levels to this offense of, okay, we're
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: out here. We can do whatever the fuck we want. Okay,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: that's not working. So now we're going to go, you know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: we can go to our leading rusher and, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. Okay, if that cuts down,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: now it's just 17, be the dog, get it to
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: a go-to guy, and move the ball. So there's levels
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to any stopping they're going to bring us, at least
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: what they've shown for the first three weeks. And they're
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: definitely not going to turn the ball over five times again.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, if they do, sorry, Nickel City, I was wrong. But, gee,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: not turn the ball over five times again. You know,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: even if there is a few turnovers, mix in a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: few more touchdowns, we're easily over 30 points on this defense.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Not worried about it.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. And I echo a lot of what
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you said. So I agree with you on that.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Now, the Patriots offense, we kind of talked about it already.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: They look broken to a certain degree because outside of
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: that 20-point game against the Steelers defense, I just haven't
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: seen much at all. Even week one was very bad
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: for Drake May. DT, what is a way that you
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: could see disaster striking? I think that the defense is
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: now getting– this is the perfect game coming off the
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Chargers to build confidence.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: How about that?
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: We used to call it stat night back in school,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: back at Starpoint.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: We'd play against– like Wilson or we play against.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Like Akron and like Barker was literally like one of
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: the worst teams in the Niagara Orleans league. And we're like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: all right, fellas, this is stat night. This is the
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: night to, this is the night to pad stats. This
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: is the night to get, now I know that the,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: the Patriots are going to give a fight. I know
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: it's divisional and all that type of stuff. So I'm not,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to disrespect it, but I'm talking about
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: from the defensive perspective, this should be stat night for them.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: They should think like, let's, let's get right. Let's, let's
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: find a way to, You know what I mean? To
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: continue this momentum. I think that coming off the Chargers game,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: this is the perfect time to play a team that's
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: struggling offense because now you got a little bit of confidence.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: You helped out your offense who had a shitty day.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: They gave up the ball five times. You were put
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: in compromising situations all day long and you didn't break.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: You kept bending, but you did not break. And you
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: actually bowed up in some cases where you were forcing
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: sacks and you were forcing interceptions like with CJ, GJ
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: in the second half. I think that this is the
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: perfect game to come off of a game like the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Chargers where This is a great opponent just to play
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: and get your confidence up for this next second quarter
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: of the season. You're just wrapping up on first quarter,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: first four games. Now you'll be going into the second
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: quarter of the season.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: This is the perfect opponent for it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the division.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: From defense playing against an offense perspective.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the division, get up, you know, pin your
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: ears back and go. I mean, Rousseau needs two sacks, obviously,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: to stay on pace, right, to get to 34. So
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: he's got to get those. You know, and let's see
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: it like Bradley Chubb's cusping, you know, he's, he had
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the roughing the passer and, you know, whatever last week.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: And he's right on those Russo sacks. Chubb is there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: There was one Russo did the sack and Chubb got
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: up and celebrated like it was his, but it was
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: definitely Russo. So I think he's budding and trying to
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: get a, get a part of the mix and get
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: a part of the fun as Dion Walker is, you know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: as well. I think the linebackers have something to, you know,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: to prove where they've been kind of up and down and,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: you know, through the first three games. And, you know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: these defensive backs that, you know, Christian Benford, if he
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't play, that's one thing. But if he does play,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: this is a good one to, okay, like, I'm not a,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: you know, I can cover. I can make plays. They
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: paid me to be the number one. I will be
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the number one. It's a game, though, you can't, like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: go to, like, just because there's three games where nobody's
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: ran all over on us and, oh, we can't stop
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the run, we can't stop the run, and now three
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: games in, nobody's really running on us. So it's like, okay,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: our run defense is fixed.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Don't let Travion Henderson get loose.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: We don't know that it's fixed yet. Right. So don't
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: just don't have a game. He had a huge run
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: last year, two of them where we had to have
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: that big comeback to go beat him in new England
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: last year. And that's just something like, don't do something
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that is like, we don't lean into what everybody kind
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: of thought would be the case. And then you have
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: a few good games. So now you're just immune from
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: not being able to get run on. Like that's what
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of focused on. Like stick to that, stick
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: to that thing where you're not going to get run
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: on and you know by trying to go out and
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: get get the ears pinned back and have the stat
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: night if you will um but that's kind of what
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: i'm looking for in this defense like don't like it's
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: not prove us wrong because we're you know i think
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the mafia overall is like okay we we're not getting
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: run on all the time that we played some pretty
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: good running backs the last three weeks too And I
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: just don't I think that's the focus here of like
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: if Drake may get a few pass yards, they move
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the ball a little, get some confidence offensively.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to see him run. I want
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to keep this narrative that we have gotten better at
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: stopping the run. I want to keep that for week four.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I agree.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I think that it would be important just that. And
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I don't mean I'm not again. I want to say
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: it's that night in a disrespectful way. I'm just saying
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: like this is not like we're better than them. We're
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: better than this matchup. Let's make sure we don't fuck around.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: Let's come out here and do our job. And if
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: we do our job, we can have, you know, that's
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: all it was like, we can have a nice little,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: this can be a nice night where we were padding
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: some stats. And that's all I meant for that. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: know it was definitely way more disrespectful for us growing up,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: playing basketball. We wanted to murder those kids for sure.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: It hurt their feelings. And yeah, I wanted, I wanted
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: to have a double double by half. I was telling.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Her from Miranda here. Yeah. Cause around our hometown. Now
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: all these schools are so small. But since we've left,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: they're all merged up now, right? So all their sports
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: are merged up. So I was asking who was with
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: who for, you know, football, whatever. And she, like, said
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: this school. And I was like, oh, yeah, that school.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: What a piece of shit school that was. And I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: was like, that was, you know, a stat night for
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: me in basketball. I knew I loved those nights coming because,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you know, that meant I was in the game, right?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I'm playing probably three quarters in that one, you know. Shelly,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Mama Shelly, you got to wash this jersey now. Yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I ain't mad at you, man. So I know what
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: you mean.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I ain't mad at you at all. Listen, it's funny.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: As we begin to wrap up tonight, DT, last thing,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: it's funny how, real quick, just real quick before the
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Nickel City Criteria Report, it's funny how like the NFL,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: it could just change just like that on a dime.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: We talked about the first six games. We talked about
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: how daunting it was to see that the Bills have
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: played the way that they have. I am I am
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: just reminded that luck is a part of the equation.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: And I just wanted to remind everybody of that. Coming
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: off of last game, the Texans games, all I had
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: to do was listen to all these fucking Texas fans.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Well, if Lassiter would have picked up the ball, y'all
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: would have.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, we first of all, we had all
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: three fucking timeouts, like DT said in that episode. And
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: we also have no idea, you know, if you guys
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: were going to, you know, what you were going to
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: do on that drive.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: We got all three timeouts. You're pinned back.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: You're at the 20. Who fucking knows? So I don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: like that argument anyway. There is some luck involved. Last week, yes,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: there's some luck involved. Like, we should have lost that game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We didn't.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: DT, if luck is on our side this year, I really,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: really would be, it would be, yes, it would bring
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: a smile to my face, much like yours, because I
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: think that we deserve it. The one year that we
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: had a shot, like a real, like real legit, legit
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: shot at, I think it was two times, but the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: one year I'm thinking about that we had a shot
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: at the one seed, Fucking Kansas City won't fucking lose.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: They got a horseshoe lodged up their fucking ass all
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: season long. I mean, they're getting field goals blocked. They're
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: blocking field goals at the end of the game. I mean,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: it's just like all this weird shit. We win, what, 13,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: 14 games?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah Likely's tip of the tip of the cleat
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: touches the out-of-bounds marker.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck?
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Like, they go 15-2, and we played a hell of
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: a schedule and was really tough.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: And, and I think that year we went 14 and
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: three or something like that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I think it was a game behind and we beat
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: them in the regular season, but we couldn't, we couldn't
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: catch them even with the game in hand because they
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: just would not fucking lose.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: And then the other time was DeMar him year. And
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: we don't know what would happen that year.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: DT, if luck is on our side this year, it, that,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that bodes well for the future. Um, because I mean,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: you can, you could say that we got lucky two games.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I'd, I'm it's the name of the episode, DT. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: am unapologetic.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know about getting lucky, you know, in any
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: of those games.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, yes.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Turn the ball over five times, but.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: We were lucky last week.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Well, you could make the stops down the stretch and
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: then scored twice late, you know, and, and rush for
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: 150 yards and made the plays down the stretch. Like sure.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Like a few bounces definitely had to go our way,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: but I don't think it was full lock and week one.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Those couple throws Josh made late and scoring 30 plus points, okay, whatever.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: But I also think it's a mixture of, and I
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: was critical of this before the season started, we can't
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: just crown everybody. going through the schedule like this you
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: don't know who's going to be good and who's going
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to be bad like yes there's some right major there's
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: some definitely some people you knew you know obviously.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: You said that you did say that in the offseason
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: you know the Seahawks and the Rams and the Chiefs
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: we all we always knew would come back and be
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: good the Ravens you know after all that they still
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: are two and one you know so there's there's teams
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: that are going to be good but then there's teams
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: you you know in the middle there and that's who
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: we were playing.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: The Texans the the Lions the Chargers who all were
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: kind of cusp good teams and everyone kind of freaked
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: out and was getting all up in arms about it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Our schedule is so tough, but we don't know what
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: these teams are about to be. The Texans 0-3, the
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Chargers 0-3. You know, the Lions really went on the
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: ropes in week one to the Saints and, you know,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: only won by touchdown to the Jets at home last week.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: So I think we also need to look into, like,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: we're not just getting lucky beating good teams. Like, I
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: think the teams aren't as good as we thought they
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: originally were going to be. And that just kind of
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: pushes the can down the down the street of other
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: teams now that are proven to be good through the
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: first three weeks that we still got to play, you know,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: and there's a.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Lot of them.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: So like the Raiders, because the Raiders now switch to
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: a game that.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: You might worry about, you know, and so it comes like, OK,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the early part of the season is really tough and
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: then it kind of chills out for a little bit.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Now we're through the tough part, which, you know, we
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: might be 4-0 through, and now it's getting tougher in
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: front of us. So I just think it's, you know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: have that mentality to every 1-0. I love that, 1-0, 1-0,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: 1-0 each week. You play who you play each week, and,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't– I'm not crowning anybody yet. I'm
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: not worrying about the next couple games. It's who's in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: front of me because we don't know the team we're
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: going to play. Even if we go into a– if
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: we're with the Chiefs and it's 11-0, 11-0 on Thanksgiving–
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: You know, and, you know, we don't know what that,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: if the Chiefs lose out or we lose out there. Like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: so I'm never going to buy into that bullshit of like.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: I just like the schedule so much. And then in
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: the offseason, we have nothing to look at other than
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: the previous performance. So the first six games to me
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: look so daunting and like, damn, I said it all offseason.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: The only break you get in the first six games
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: is the Raiders. And it just, it was funny when
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I looked at the schedule today, I'm like, shit, a
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: lot of things have changed.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Like now the Raiders are not even a gimme. in
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that respect, you know, I don't know.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Really the only way, like I, I would get with
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: that if it's, you know, if it's week 14 and we're,
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you know, we have a great record and it's like, okay,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: we got through the hard stuff. Now we got just
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: dolphins finished.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Like, okay.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Like I can get down with it when something like that.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: But right now with, you know, with 15 more games left.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: It's you, you still don't know who's good and who's not.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: And like these sections of, Oh, this is an easy
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: part of the schedule. This is a hard part of
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the schedule. Well, this was supposed to be a hard
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: part of the schedule, and we turned the ball over
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: and still covered the spread.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: So, you know, it's... Yeah, no, I agree with you. No,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely right.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to say all luck, but there were
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: some lucky factors in the game, and I said that
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: in the offseason. I always remind Nickel City crew, Bills Mafia,
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: that if you're going to win a Super Bowl, You
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: will need some luck. There's never been a Super Bowl
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: champion that did not have a little bit of luck
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: on their side. So that's all I meant by that.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: But it'll be interesting to see because it's just funny.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: You look at that schedule and it does not look
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: the same way that we thought when it came back
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: out in May. Now, as we wrap up tonight, listen,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: the Nickel City Crew tailgate report is presented by Queen
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: City Vintage. Check them out. They are on Elmwood across
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: from 40 Thieves. Our buddy Nick and Kai, they're running
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: a great storefront right there on Elmwood.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Listen, check them out. Queen City Vintage has got all
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Now the Sabres are back in swing.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: All your Sabres gear, nostalgic, the retro, all of that
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: type of cool shit that the kids like. Listen, you
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: can check it out on Elmwood, right across from 40 Thieves,
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Queen City Vintage, our official sponsors and partners this season. Listen, DT,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I will give out the, I'm probably going to give
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: out the giveaway next, probably on Friday or Saturday.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do it sometime Friday or Saturday, get
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: everybody ramped up.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Congratulations to my boy, Zach Ransom, who you saw there
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: earlier in the show, DT. He was the first winner.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: for the actual contest from last week. So he gets
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: that pretty Willis jersey and hat. So I want to
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: see you, Zach, in that. You got to post it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: So that way we know that you got it. And
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: that way we know that you're rocking it. So I
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: will post out the gift later on Friday or Saturday,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: probably Saturday before college football. DT, I always let you
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: go second because you are the mayor. There's a reason
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: why we are going a night early instead of TGIF.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: It's not because of me and my crazy schedule. All
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: I am is a dad. and making sure that I'm
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: taking care of my baby. So my life is very
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: much the same down here. DT is all over the world,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: kissing babies and shaking hands and all that other shit, getting.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Ready for primaries.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Listen, down here, DT, it was slow motion. I told
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: you Bobby had his rugby tournament. So I told you
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: I wasn't going because it's not sanctioned by the high
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: school and stuff like that. So I wasn't missing out
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: on too much. So as I said, it was me
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: and Quincy and Nate. My two kings were here and
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: we had some pizza, watched the game. I cussed a
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: lot because we kept giving the ball up and it
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: was cool. I was happy that we pulled it out, obviously.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: And this week, I told you, I've got Ivy every
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: other weekend on the weekend. So I've got her. She's
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: in her bed right now. And I mean, I'm excited
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: because the first game was the Lions game for her
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: this year. And so I let her stay up for
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: like two touchdowns. We were scoring so quick that I
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: let her stay up for about two touchdowns. Sunday, we
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: are all systems go. I'm going to put her down
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: early for her nap around 11. So that way she
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: gets at least a good two hours in And I'm
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: going to wake her up. And if I have to,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: unless she wakes up, she usually naps for like two hours,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: two and a half hours. DT, it is going to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: be raucous. I'm going to put up the light, the
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Zuba light the night before. So she gets a chance
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: to see the Zuba's lights on the house the night before.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: We're ready to rock and roll with Princess Ivy, man.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: We are going to, we're going to tear this place down.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: She loves the shout song after touchdown. So DT, I
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: can't wait, Uncle DT. We are going to tear this
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: motherfucker down on Sunday. We are going to be wiling.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: She's going to get, the full experience, uh, as opposed
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: to an abbreviated one, like she did against the lions.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And I mean, how, how can you not love it?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And so let's give her something to cheer about, right?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Let's go four and all and have a nice, uh,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: a raucous environment and you get the boys hype and,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: you know, so Ivy, Ivy jumped right in. And I mean, if,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: as a baby, if you're watching Josh Allen do greatness,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: how could you ever not love the bills the rest
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: of your life? Right. So that's a nice day. Good,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: good weekend. Another, uh, Good slate of college balls. We're
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: getting into it. It's a lot of ranked games every week,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: so that's awesome.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Good, good.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Well, another week, another place for DT to travel. We
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: got a wedding. Well, let's start last week. Okay, so
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: last week we popped off and went down to Panama City, hometown.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Had a wedding down there with some great family friends
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: who I'm going to be with for this weekend we'll
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: get into. It was a beautiful weather weekend, very comfortable.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: We had a little taste of fall, but not too
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: cold yet. The leaves are starting to change just a
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: little bit. So we're getting there. We're getting there. We're
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: on the cusp of falling into fall. But I had
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: a beautiful wedding. Shout out to Dylan Laurel. I had
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: a good time there. Then Sunday, game day. You know
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: how it is, baby. Let's go. I was banged down
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: in Panama City, so I was contemplating getting back up,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: getting to the tailgate, seeing the folks. There's a ticket available.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going. But I ended up staying low on my
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: main spot, Cheney Road. Shout out Kai and Paige. Shout
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: out Jeff and Ann. Jeff and Ann, Cheney Road. It's
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: the best tailgate experience other than being at the actual tailgate.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: We do it right. Had the TVs rolling again. Had
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: a good menu. Was doing all the good things there. Really,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it at Cheney Road again for the game. Okay.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Vikings play at four, so we've got a page for
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the Vikings to play at four. They win 3-0, 3-0.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody's happy. Love the game day. Makes for a real
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: tough Monday, but love.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: The game day.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: This week, now we're on the road. I'm down again. Hometown,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Panama City. Tomorrow morning, we got wheels up early, heading
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: to the Big Apple. Me and the crew, Big Apple.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: We got an early departure today. wedding of one of
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: my best friends growing up. She's getting married right now.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Are you flying to LaGuardia or are you driving?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Nope, we're driving. We're driving. Got the minivan parked out front,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: packed up, stone and go. We're going to, you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: got the suit on.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: That's about six and a half, seven hours.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Suits on the hangar, a little drive. We'll make fun.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: and get down there, but we're down in it. We
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: are in the lower, lower Manhattan, Soho, Tribeca down in it, baby. So,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not, uh, not staying in Jersey, not, uh,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: you know, staying in Brooklyn. Uh, it's where we're in it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: So it'll be a quick turnaround now because, you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know how happy everyone's going to be with
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: me Sunday at 5 30 AM. When I say, all right,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: game games in six hours, let's roll.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Lord have mercy. So you're going to try to get
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: back to Buff. We'll see. We'll see how it goes.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: But I definitely want to get back to at least
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: get eyes on it, right? So that's the plan. I'll
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: let you know. I'm pumped for the tailgate report next
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: week to tell you the city. We're going to be
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: bougie-ing it up, Nicholson.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: We're out there in the good stuff. Yeah, we've got a.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Nice little wedding. The wedding's at an art gallery. We've
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: got to– you know, it's going to be– DT puts
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: on his– I don't know. What do you– what do
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: you call it?
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: The, um, the wingtips.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The exquisite look, the pinky up as I, as I, uh,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: as I drink my martini and we enjoy the big apples.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: So we're looking for, it'll be a quick turn though.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Like you said, six, six and a half hour ride. Boom.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: We're there. Bang, bang. We got rehearsal then welcome party.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Then the wedding, then boom, we're quick back on Sunday too.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: So it'll be a quick turnaround, but we'll get a little.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Taste of it.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: All right. Well, Yeah, I mean, enjoy it. I mean, yes,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: you're going to be living the bougie life for sure
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: if you're down in Midtown and stuff like that. But listen,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: enjoy it for sure. Be safe on that road. And yeah,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I guess get back if you can. If you can't,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: then there's bars there. I don't know how many bars
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: they're going to let you in the way that you
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: get down, but there's bars in Manhattan that have some
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: sports bars and show all the games. So, you know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: you'll see. It'll be interesting to see. I am definitely
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: looking forward to next week's report for sure. Listen, out there,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: we appreciate you guys tonight. adjusting to our schedules, really
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: adjusting to the mayor DT schedule. We really appreciate it.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: You guys are out there on the listeners. Let's just
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: shout out to all of the listeners. A big shout
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: out to my boy, Nick Del Novo from height, from,
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: excuse me, from kindergarten. He's been sending me some great insights, DT.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I'm begging him to come on to the show. I'm
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: begging him.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's nervous or what. He was like,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know. What would I talk about? I'm like, motherfucker,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you sent me.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Essays every damn day about different points of the bills.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what you say. You say it to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: the audience. He sends me essays.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I love Nick, man. We go literally way back, like
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: eight tracks. So listen, I appreciate all of the listeners
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: out there. I've got some really great feedback DT this
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: past week. So we listen, we're going to keep on plugging,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: keep doing our thing for sure, but we should be
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: back on. I don't know if DT we'll let you know.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: I will let the, the gift out on Saturday by,
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: by Sunday or Monday. I should know if we're back
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: to our regular schedule program with TGIF. It really is
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: up to the mayor. The mayor is all over. Like
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I said, he getting ready for primary. So it's all
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: on him. I kind of follow to him. He's the superstar.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: I just make sure that the schedule is free. DT,
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: enjoy yourself this weekend. Be on your best behavior down
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: there in Midtown Manhattan and have a lot of fun, DT.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, baby. We're out here. This is the
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: love of the game. If the schedule was not full,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what I would do.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Listen, out there, spread love, not hate. These were my
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Bill's thoughts said out loud. Enjoy the game on Sunday.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: I guess, like DT said, there's some college football that's
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: really ramping up Florida's back on the top. And listen,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: there's some cool matchups coming up this weekend as well.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: So listen, enjoy college football Saturday. Enjoy your families. And Sunday,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: let's get right, another 1 o'clock kickoff. Everybody should be
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: back in the swing of things. This might be for
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: a few people, DT, their first time to the route.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: You had the Lions. Then a lot of people last week,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: that was their first game against the Chargers. This week,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: you might have been holding out for some more lower
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: ticket prices.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Go there. Fuck the Pats.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: And get a chance to see that new beautiful palace
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: that the Bills play in. I know that they've been
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: talking some shit on Twitter about water and water bottles.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: People just find shit to like, like, what are you,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: why are you guys, like, you just have to complain.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Like, we're in the big leagues now, okay? This is
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: how it goes.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: They're not going to let you bring in an empty
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: water bottle because you might get drunk.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: And throw it, okay? So they got some plastic fucking
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: cups up there for you. Stop bitching about everything. God dog, man.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: It's pretty funny to watch people on Twitter. I'm like,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: what are you bitching about? It's funny.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Crazy and then you know all the it was the
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: instructive view and now it's this but everybody that's actually
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: in there and getting loud out there down is saying
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: it's a magical experience so i can't wait to get
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: in there with you rob in a few weeks and
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: we throw it down nickel city crew style but yeah
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: it's live it's here we're in the heat of the
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: season already week four right month in month into the
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: season before you know we're in christmas and hopefully super
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: bowl so It's week four. We're getting down. It's the
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Patriots who we hate. It's the Patriots who we'd love
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: to get back on after the beatdowns through the drought.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Now it's our turn to start getting back on them.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: You started Nickel City Crew basically after the perfect game, right?
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: So it's time to start changing the memories where we're
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: laying the belt to ass on these dudes, and we're
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: ready to go. What better way to go 4-0 and
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: be three and a half games up in the division
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: before you get into the first week of October.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: So.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Locking in 1 p.m. If it's your first time in there,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: get as loud as you can. If now you're a
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: season three gamer, it's a divisional game. Get the fuck up. 4-0.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: You're damn right. It's division.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. Especially on a struggling where
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Drake May is showing he can struggle a little bit.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Be able to get the crowd behind that and really
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: waver if he's starting to play bad and now the
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: crowd's behind it and now he's really screwed. Let's go.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Lock in 4-0.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Go Bills. I love it. Listen, go Bills. I love it.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I love it.