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The Late Debate | 1 August · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately welcome the late to play.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening, I'm James Macpherson, with Liz Staurra and Caleb
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  Speaker 3: Bond coming up. A school teacher sues the Education Department
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  Speaker 3: after injuring herself playing basketball in high heels. Who could
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  Speaker 3: possibly have predicted that? Plus when we look at the papers,
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  Speaker 3: a Chinese swimmer's performance at the Olympic Games called not
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  Speaker 3: humanly possible, and a new South Wales coal fired power
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  Speaker 3: station's output at a five year high as renewables fail
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  Speaker 3: to keep sydneysiders warm. But first, we want to kick
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  Speaker 3: off the program by showing you new footage of the
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  Speaker 3: attempted Trump assassination. This vision, filmed by a victim of
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  Speaker 3: the shooter just three minutes before shots were fired, shows
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  Speaker 3: the shooter clearly visible and with a clear line of
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  Speaker 3: sight to Donald Trump. Have a look now, James Copenhager,
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  Speaker 3: who took that video just three minutes before shots were fired.
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  Speaker 3: He was actually shot twice in the arm and the abdomen.
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  Speaker 3: He's recovering, but the video is further evidence that Thomas
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  Speaker 3: Crooks could be easily seen, despite testimony from Secret Service
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  Speaker 3: snipers who said they never spotted him until just seconds
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  Speaker 3: before shots were fired. Now, obviously some people believe there's
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  Speaker 3: some kind of conspiracy here. Others believe it's just a
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  Speaker 3: litany of gross ineptitude. I guess we don't know, and
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  Speaker 3: we may never know. But Caleb videos like this, they
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  Speaker 3: certainly raise a whole lot more questions, don't they.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they certainly do. I can understand why they didn't
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  Speaker 4: see him there. I can't see you either, James mcpherston,
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  Speaker 4: are you even on.
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  Speaker 1: This guest with me?
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  Speaker 4: Seriously, the more we see this stuff, and I mean
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  Speaker 4: it's it's obviously taken weeks for this vision to come
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  Speaker 4: out because the poor bugger was shot himself. But the
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  Speaker 4: more you look at it, the more you got to
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  Speaker 4: say it was either the most monumental cockup in the
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  Speaker 4: history of cockups let's go back forty million years worth
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  Speaker 4: of them, it would be the worst you've ever found,
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  Speaker 4: or it was allowed to happen. Seriously, how could he
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  Speaker 4: have taken that vision and all those other people who
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  Speaker 4: were standing behind Trump of course, would have been able
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  Speaker 4: to see that. We know that there were people on
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  Speaker 4: the other side of the fence who weren't inside the rally,
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  Speaker 4: who were aware that he was on the roof, and
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  Speaker 4: that they had tried to alert police to the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he was there. Then you had a copper who
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  Speaker 4: went up the ladder and looked at the bloke and
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  Speaker 4: then just scurried down the ladder because he pointed the
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  Speaker 4: gun at him.
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  Speaker 1: It is just incredible.
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  Speaker 4: They should have known he was there, and they should
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  Speaker 4: have taken that shot about five minutes before he took
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  Speaker 4: a shot at Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: There's just no two ways about it.
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  Speaker 5: They did know he was there. I don't care what
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  Speaker 5: anybody says.
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  Speaker 6: How can that many other people know he was there,
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  Speaker 6: but the people tasked with looking after him, the people
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  Speaker 6: that were being screened at, the guys who were texting
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  Speaker 6: each other saying suspicious.
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  Speaker 5: Person alert, just didn't know he was there.
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  Speaker 6: And now they've got to explain away who the guy
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  Speaker 6: is and the random footage and.
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  Speaker 5: Why he didn't spot him he was running around on
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  Speaker 5: the roof. At least the shooter.
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  Speaker 6: Was crouched down with a rifle trained on him. That
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  Speaker 6: footage was taken just three minutes before Thomas Crook fired.
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  Speaker 6: So you mean to tell me you want us to
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  Speaker 6: believe that you didn't know Thomas Crook was there crouched
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  Speaker 6: down with his rifle trained on Trump at that point
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  Speaker 6: in time, and you didn't notice someone running around on
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  Speaker 6: a rooftop like that is going to draw the eye.
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  Speaker 6: We don't normally see people walking around on rooftops. And
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  Speaker 6: it was so obvious that was captured in this guy's
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  Speaker 6: that's just phone footage. He wasn't there some ubute camera.
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  Speaker 6: You mean to tell me he could pick it up.
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  Speaker 6: And the Secret Service, we've watched all the where they
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  Speaker 6: were positioned, the counter snipers in relation to the not
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  Speaker 6: counter sniper, the actual sniper, as well as Trump stage.
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  Speaker 6: There's just no explaining it away that we couldn't see
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  Speaker 6: this guy who we now know about running around in
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  Speaker 6: the background. Also, how did it take this long for
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  Speaker 6: us to find out about.
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  Speaker 5: This little piece of the story.
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  Speaker 6: You'd think with the FBI on the case, the Secret
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  Speaker 6: Service on the case, the local police on the case,
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  Speaker 6: all supposedly trying to get to the bottom of the story,
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  Speaker 6: and how this could have been such a colossal failure.
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  Speaker 5: The least you can do is send a call out saying, everyone.
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  Speaker 6: Who was at this rally, we want your footage, we
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  Speaker 6: want your photos, we want to find out who's responsible,
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  Speaker 6: if they had help, etc.
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  Speaker 5: And so on. You would think that would be a.
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  Speaker 6: Pretty basic part of the inv investigation. And no weeks later,
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  Speaker 6: they are still insisting that everyone believed that a twenty
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  Speaker 6: year old, unassisted with mental health problems managed to best
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  Speaker 6: the Secret Service, the local police, the FBI, and they're
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  Speaker 6: all just like, oh, well, you know, look, it's just
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  Speaker 6: a colossal failure. As a saying that I like to
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  Speaker 6: repeat at times like this, this many coincidences isn't a coincident.
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  Speaker 4: It's frankly a shame that they shot Crooks dead because
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  Speaker 4: he could be a great asset to the Secret Service
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  Speaker 4: or the CIA or the FBI with his abilities to evade.
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  Speaker 4: Then he could have told them.
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  Speaker 1: All his tricks.
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  Speaker 3: Well, of course, so little is known about Thomas Crooks.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other weird part about this story. Very still
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  Speaker 3: just finding out about social media accounts from when he
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  Speaker 3: was fourteen or fifteen. You'd think he would have known
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  Speaker 3: in that position he was going to be shot dead,
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  Speaker 3: and yet he left no explanation apparently for his actions,
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  Speaker 3: and that his parents haven't been much help either, although
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  Speaker 3: they've been counseled by legal representatives to say nothing at
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  Speaker 3: this stage that hasn't stopped reporters trying to find out
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  Speaker 3: something from mum and dad. Matthew and Mary have look
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  Speaker 3: at this interview or attempted interview with the shooter's father
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  Speaker 3: and have listened to his response.
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  Speaker 1: Explain why your son is there's a limited social server.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any statement you'd be willing to share with
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  Speaker 1: us right now?
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  Speaker 7: Mister Crooks, I got to be.
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  Speaker 5: Suspicion.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, okay, but I reckon if my son
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  Speaker 3: had done what his boy did. I know you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be hassled by media, but I've got a
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  Speaker 3: pe as the only thing you say. Wouldn't you just
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  Speaker 3: continually say I am so sorry, I am.
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  Speaker 4: So or you could just not say anything at all,
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  Speaker 4: like he was already walking away, like he didn't have
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  Speaker 4: to turn around.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry sorry gents. Look, I'd really love to stop and
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  Speaker 1: talk to you, but I'm absolutely busting for a whiz.
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  Speaker 4: Like come on, if I were him, I wouldn't even
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  Speaker 4: be showing my face in public, like I would be
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  Speaker 4: that distraught at what had happened. I'd be hold up
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  Speaker 4: in a room somewhere and never leaving.
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  Speaker 3: To be perfectly.
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  Speaker 4: Honest, but it's just a bizarre thing to say to
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  Speaker 4: reporters because and I know, and I say this as
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  Speaker 4: a reporter myself who's bounced people outside court rooms. And
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  Speaker 4: I've bounced people outside courtrooms and have my mobile phone
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  Speaker 4: taken from me and thrown in a water fountain. What,
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  Speaker 4: so I know what adversarial sort of encounters you in.
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  Speaker 4: That's I wasn't going to go into that, but now
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  Speaker 4: you know. But it is so ill advised to turn
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  Speaker 4: around and say something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Because of course there's going to be the piece of
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  Speaker 1: footage that everyone takes notice of.
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  Speaker 4: That's why we're now talking about it on television in Australia.
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  Speaker 4: Is this guy so dumb as to not realize that
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  Speaker 4: announcing that he needs to go and use the bog
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  Speaker 4: is going to be the store.
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  Speaker 6: He's clearly not some slick media trained He's just an
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  Speaker 6: average joe. He's probably no experience in front of a camera.
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  Speaker 5: In his entire life, and utterly overwhelmed he has.
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  Speaker 6: He's gone through absolute hell and probably doesn't know. Many
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  Speaker 6: people don't in those situations know how to behave when
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  Speaker 6: confronted with it, because they're like, I don't actually want
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  Speaker 6: to take responsibility for my son's actions. I had no
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  Speaker 6: awareness of this at the time, so you do have to.
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  Speaker 5: Feel sorry for him, you really do.
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  Speaker 6: But speaking of someone who is polished when it comes
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  Speaker 6: to the media.
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  Speaker 5: Trump found himself summoned.
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  Speaker 6: Before what was going to be several black women being
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  Speaker 6: journalists asking him tough questions, and gosh, were they tough.
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  Speaker 6: You will not see Kamala Harris ever asked a single
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  Speaker 6: question even an ounce as hostile as what Trump was
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  Speaker 6: pummeled with. He pointed out early on in this interview
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  Speaker 6: that you guys told me that my opponent would be here,
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  Speaker 6: that we'd be doing this together. He said he was
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  Speaker 6: there under false pretenses, and yet he was gracious enough
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  Speaker 6: to go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: With the interview.
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  Speaker 6: Check out his answer when he was asked, do you
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  Speaker 6: think Kamala Harris is a DEEI hire.
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  Speaker 8: I've known her a long time, indirectly, not directly very much,
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  Speaker 8: and she was always of Indian heritage and she was
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  Speaker 8: only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black
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  Speaker 8: until a number of years ago when she happened to
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  Speaker 8: turn black, and now she wants to be known as black,
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  Speaker 8: So I don't know is she Indian or is she black.
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  Speaker 5: She is always black.
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  Speaker 8: College I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because
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  Speaker 8: she was Indian all the way and then all of
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  Speaker 8: a sudden, she made a turn and she went she
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  Speaker 8: became a black.
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  Speaker 6: Just to be clear, of course, if that reporter is wrong,
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  Speaker 6: Kamala hasn't always identified as black at all. Here's a
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  Speaker 6: little cooking interview she did with actress Mindy Carling back
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  Speaker 6: in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, so what we're going to cook today is an
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  Speaker 9: Indian recipe? Yes, because you are idiots, yes, okay. And
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  Speaker 9: I don't know that everybody knows that, but I find
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  Speaker 9: that wherever I go and I see Indian people at
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  Speaker 9: the supermarket on the street, everyone's like, you know, Kamala's Indian, right,
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  Speaker 9: It's like our thing. We're so excited about to have
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  Speaker 9: you running for president.
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  Speaker 6: And back in twenty twenty, CNN did an entire segment
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  Speaker 6: on Kamala Harris's Indian roots.
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  Speaker 2: My mother, who raised me and my sister, was a
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  Speaker 2: proud woman.
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  Speaker 3: She was a brown woman.
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  Speaker 5: She was a woman with a heavy accent.
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  Speaker 6: Of course, this doesn't stop her from now passing herself
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  Speaker 6: off as black in order to, you know, or get
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  Speaker 6: on side more of the black vote, though I don't
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  Speaker 6: suspect that she'll struggle in that respect. Here she is
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  Speaker 6: at a rally in Atlanta. See if you can recognize
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  Speaker 6: the accent and.
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  Speaker 4: You are not just when in twenty twenty and we
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  Speaker 4: don't do it again in twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 5: Lady, who are you trying to be? That was so
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  Speaker 5: Obama like.
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  Speaker 6: That was so you could hear him in that sentence.
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  Speaker 5: It was like, have you been listening? Have you been.
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  Speaker 6: Watching the Greatest Orators clips? And being like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 6: can mimic this. People will love me too.
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  Speaker 4: It's a bit like when Alexandra Kazia Cortez goes and
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  Speaker 4: speaks in the Bronx and she really turns on her
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  Speaker 4: hood voice, right, and she's not the first one who's
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  Speaker 4: done it. But see, the thing is that she has
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  Speaker 4: as we just show, she's previously talked about her Indian heritage,
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  Speaker 4: and she does have black heritage in that her father
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  Speaker 4: was a Jamaican African man.
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  Speaker 1: But what they're doing is duplicitous.
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  Speaker 4: They refer to her as black as though it's inferring
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  Speaker 4: that she is African American.
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  Speaker 1: Which she is not. I mean, you trace her lineage back.
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  Speaker 4: Her father of four bears were not brought to America
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  Speaker 4: as slaves. That's not what we're talking about here. Her
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  Speaker 4: father is from Jamaica. But they know what they're doing
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  Speaker 4: when they set her up as a black man as
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  Speaker 4: a black woman.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, don't run with that headline.
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  Speaker 5: Don't run with the head They thought it would get
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  Speaker 5: them more vocal. That is quite true as trans black.
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  Speaker 4: And look, you never know these days, she may wake
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  Speaker 4: up tomorrow and identify.
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  Speaker 1: As a black man.
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  Speaker 4: They know exactly what they are doing when they run
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  Speaker 4: with it. But she scarcely talks about her Indian heritage anymore.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the point that Trump was trying to make.
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  Speaker 4: She's done this sort of full pivot from the Indian
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  Speaker 4: bit to the black bit because she's decided that being
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  Speaker 4: black is more electorally advantageous to Trumpet that around. The
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  Speaker 4: only thing I have to say though about Trump, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he fronted up to the National Association of Black Journalists,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm assuming that when the word was sent out
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  Speaker 4: to the Dems that they could have someone there. They
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  Speaker 4: were assuming it would be Joe Biden. And Kamala has
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  Speaker 4: since taken over that position and is off doing her
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  Speaker 4: own thing. But the only thing that worries me about
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  Speaker 4: it is that he should have had the presence of
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  Speaker 4: mind to know that that answer was not going to
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  Speaker 4: play well in front of that audience, Like it just
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  Speaker 4: wasn't going to land, and you could hear the reaction
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  Speaker 4: of the crowd when he did it.
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  Speaker 1: The point he is making is not wrong.
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  Speaker 4: It probably just wasn't the right time to make it
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  Speaker 4: in front of that crowd.
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  Speaker 3: So that crowd wouldn't have appreciated. But of course, thankfully
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  Speaker 3: for Trump, the clips gone viral and most people would
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: agree with what Trump's saying, and that is that the
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  Speaker 3: progressive left continually manipulate reality to fit with whatever narrative
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  Speaker 3: is convenient in that moment. For instance, if they're talking
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  Speaker 3: to LGBTQ community members, well they don't know what a
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  Speaker 3: woman is. I mean, none of us are biologists. But
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  Speaker 3: then as soon as Kamala Harris is running for president,
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  Speaker 3: they can't run enough women for Kamala Harris events because
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  Speaker 3: suddenly they're very clear on what a woman is. In
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  Speaker 3: like fashion, when Kamala is talking to the Indian community,
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  Speaker 3: well she's Indian. When she's talking to the African American community,
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  Speaker 3: she's black, and she needs to be a woman, and
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  Speaker 3: she needs to be black, because God knows, she's got
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  Speaker 3: no policy, she's got no record to speak of.
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  Speaker 4: But she guys have a record to speak of, but well,
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  Speaker 4: it's not a record.
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  Speaker 3: So she talks about her gender and her race, and
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  Speaker 3: when her outraged opponents says, hang on a second, you're
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  Speaker 3: just talking about race and gender, she accuses him of
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: being focused on race and gender. So Trump is absolutely right,
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  Speaker 3: and we just hope and pray most Americans are smart
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  Speaker 3: enough to recognize this is the typical progressive left playbook.
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  Speaker 3: Divide everybody up into niche categories, appeal to each one,
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  Speaker 3: and entity politics generate enough power.
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  Speaker 5: It only works on the left though.
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  Speaker 6: Right but she's already got all those votes in the bank.
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  Speaker 6: I think most people will have decided their votes now already.
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  Speaker 5: It's very obvious she's.
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  Speaker 6: Going to be the Democratic nominee. Nobody else is putting
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  Speaker 6: their hand up. She'll get a boost, I imagine in
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  Speaker 6: popularity post the DNC, which is due this month, however
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  Speaker 6: long that lasts, and then we've got the election in November,
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  Speaker 6: where all will become obvious. But as Paul Murray when
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  Speaker 6: over tonight. She's actually doing a lot better than most
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: of us would ever like to believe possible for someone
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  Speaker 6: who is objectively as dumb as a post. This woman
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  Speaker 6: is not to be underestimated. As much as we'd love
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  Speaker 6: to think that Americans would just laugh her off the ticket,
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  Speaker 6: it's simply not happening.
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  Speaker 3: I mean her rally so, I mean, she's got so
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  Speaker 3: many people at the rallies. Of course she gives them
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: free pizza and puts on rap music with Twerky, so
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: that kind of helps generate the crowd that I didn't
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  Speaker 3: get you in.
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  Speaker 1: This is not at all I've seen you in a
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  Speaker 1: free pizza before. Come on, it's just a.
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  Speaker 3: Typical Democratic playbook. I mean, we all remember Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: saying that if you don't vote for me, you ain't black.
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  Speaker 3: He's refresher. Listen, you got to come see us when
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: you come to New York, VP. Biden, Well, it's a
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  Speaker 3: long way until November. We got more questions, You got
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: more questions.
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  Speaker 2: But I tell you, if you have a problem figuring
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  Speaker 2: out whether.
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  Speaker 3: You're PREMI or Trump and you ain't black, it's not
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  Speaker 3: really racist. But of course, when Joe Biden nominated Kamala
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  Speaker 3: Harris as his VP. He talked about the fact that
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  Speaker 3: this morning, having nominated her as my vice president, that
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  Speaker 3: little brown girls all around the country will wake up
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  Speaker 3: with great hope. So they've always played this race card,
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  Speaker 3: and Donald Trump wasn't criticizing or attacking her race. He
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  Speaker 3: was criticizing her race baiting, which is what the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: always do.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly, he was basically saying, make up your mind, which
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  Speaker 6: one is it?
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  Speaker 5: Usree Indian? Now you're black. You can't be both. Technically
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  Speaker 5: she actually is both.
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  Speaker 6: But make up your mind or just be honest with people.
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  Speaker 6: Why wouldn't that work if you just said, look, actually
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  Speaker 6: I'm half and half.
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  Speaker 3: Guys out there, the obsession with this is so stupid, right, so.
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  Speaker 6: You got all identity politics is stupid.
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  Speaker 3: I've got two African born sons. They're both black, and
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  Speaker 3: I've always said to them since a little but the
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  Speaker 3: least interesting thing about you is the fact that you're black.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean I wish I was black because they
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  Speaker 3: look a lot cooler.
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  Speaker 1: And with earrings, I'm handsome that you.
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  Speaker 3: They've got swag that I will never have. They always
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: say to me, Dad, you can't borrow the sauce. The
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: source is not.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: But that's very kind of them. You don't want to
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: try that.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Far more interesting than the color of their skin is
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: their character, their ideas, the things that they're good at,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: all the things they bring to other people. The color
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: of their skin is the least important thing, but the
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Democrats always make it the most important thing, as if
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: it equals competency.
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: All.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: It's the problem with identity.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Which I have to say that they gained despite your
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: your influence, James.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: They've they've done really well, but having.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: You as it now, absolutely the good thing about adopting
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: kids is that anything good you can say, but that
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: was nurture exactly.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: It all comes down to him. It all comes down
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to your good word.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: But of course, you know they've made a race such
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: a part of the Kamala campaign because now you've got
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: white dudes for Kamala and you've got white chicks for Kamala.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: Imagine if they had white dudes for Trump.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to be like white.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: Supremacy, white supremacy, But it's white guys.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: That come under the like every plon.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: We showed the commercial the Democrats are running. Was that
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: last night or the night before where they're categorizing white
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: guys for Trump and they're all like serial killers, pedophiles.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: The one person who tried to kill Trump, I'm suspecting
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: wasn't a fan of his anyway. Let's stick to the
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: US for a moment where they've struck a plea deal
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: with the man who was the mastermind of nine eleven.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Kalid Shaik Muhammad, who's been holed up in Guantanamo Bay
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: for some twenty four years or nearly twenty four years,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: has finally agreed to plead guilty to terrorist defenses for
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: masterminding nine to eleven on the agreement that he won't
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: have to face the death penalty. Now you have to
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: ask the question, after nearly twenty four years in Guantanamo Bay, A,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: why has he finally decided I'm going to fesce up.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: He could have fesced up at any point, but of
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: course he would have been faced the death penalty. But
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: you would have thought for a terrorist, facing the death
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: penalty actually makes you the martyr that you want to be.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: And what is in it for the DOJ, the Harris
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Biden DOJ to finally get this blokeout of Guantanamo Bay.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: JD.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Vance, Trump's pick for vice president, was asking exactly that
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: question today.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Today I heard that the Biden Harris Department of Justice
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: cut a deal with Al Qaeda terrorists co lead Sheik
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Muhammad to avoid the death penalty.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Was reported today.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Now as someone who enlisted in the Marines to serve
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: after nine to eleven. That is ridiculous, but it's not surprising.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Just think about the point that we've gotten to. Joe
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Biden and Kamala Harris have weaponized the Department of Justice
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to go after their political opponents, but they're cutting a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: sweetheart deal with nine to eleven terrorists. We need a
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: president who kills terrorists, not negotiates with them.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Two of his co accused have also been included in
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: this sweetheart deal. The chief prosecutor on the case, through
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Admiral Aaron c Raff, wrote in a letter that in
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: exchange for removal of the death penalty is a possible
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: punishment that these three accused have agreed to plead guilty
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: on all of the charged defenses, including the murder of
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: the two thousand, nine hundred and seventy six people listed
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: in the Chard Sheep.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But of course those who have.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: Family who were killed in nine to eleven, you can
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: understand are upset by all of this. Daniel Dilara, his
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: brother died in nine to eleven. He said, I'm very disappointed.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: We waited patiently for a long time. I wanted the
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: death penalty. The government has failed us. I mean, what
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: would it have hurt them to just keep the bloke
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: in Guantanamu Bay until he eventually carcked it. They never
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: had to get a guilty plea out of him, really,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: they know he did it, Just leave him there and
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: let him rot.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: The thing that shocked me is that this still is
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: still going on. I mean, I'd kind of forgotten about it,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: assumed it had all been, you know, taking care of
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and putting the dust beIN. Twenty three years later, they're
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: still trying to work out what exactly to do with
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: people who murdered near on three thousand Americans on American soil.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: And so now they don't face the death penalty, they'll
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: get life in prison. We don't know where they'll be incarcerated, although,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: you know, knowing the Democrats, they'll probably be put in
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: a midtown hotel and given a credit card with a
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars on it. That's what they do with everybody
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: else these days. If you were a relative of someone
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: killed on September eleven, you would be absolutely ill ageable
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: that your government has taken twenty three years still hasn't
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: executed justice. And when they do, it's sloppy justice. That
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: reflects the fact that moral clarity is sadly lacking in
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: the United States in pretty much every area.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Well when it comes to the DOJ. When it comes
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: to the Department of.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: Justice, I like to say the jokes in the name America,
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: because it really is. Whenever these guys are like, oh,
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: we're prosecuting this, We're prosecuting that, it was two seconds ago,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: or at least it feels like we were talking about
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: the doos Jase against Boeing.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, what kind of case was that? Zero justice
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: for the victims' families.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: So you've had several planes hit the ground, killing everyone
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: on board, they get away with a.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Rap on the knuckles. The DOJ could.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: The very long list that I could reel off the
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: top of my head of these cases that they say, oh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: we're prosecuting, We're on the case, and then you find
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: out what was the outcome, and nobody thinks that's justice whatsoever.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: And now the.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: American taxpayer gets to pay for three square meals a
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: day and a roof over these guys's head until they
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: die a natural death.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: And you can bet they'll have human rights favists and
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: lawyers looking after their every need.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: Oh they have. That's why they've lasted this long.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: But let's not forget that the terror attack that brought
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: down the Twin Towers was organized by El Kader right,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: who would have imagined in the days after nine to
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: eleven that many years later President Joe Biden would leave
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Afghanistan and gift Al Kaider billions of dollars worth of
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: military equipment and then cut a sweet deal with the
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Al Qaider operatives who trained the hijackers, financed the hijackers.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: One of these men came up with the idea behind
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the nine to eleven attacks, and they allow them a
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: plea deal, as if you would give them any deal
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Well, the only reason I can possibly think of as
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: to why they would do this is at the instruction
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: of Biden and Harris, because they think it might play
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: well to go into an election saying we finally got
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: an admission of guilt out of the mastermind of nine
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: to eleven.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: That's the only.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Reason I can think of that you would do it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: But I'm not sure it plays the way they think
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: it would play that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: There's two things on that. The first one is that
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: far from take credit for this, and this was one
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: of the weird things, the White House immediately put out
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: a statement sort of stepping back from it, saying this
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: was nothing to do with us. This is the justice
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: system working itself out. Could you imagine Donald Trump stepping
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: away from something like that. I mean, he would be
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: there with the rope saying, let me be the hangman.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: Well, no, no, hey, Donald, hang on a minute.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Though he did have four years as president and did
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: nothing with these guys, the got a hang He had
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: his opportunities, okay, But the.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Action is being taken now, and it's this administration that
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: were very quick to put out a statement saying this
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: had nothing to do with us. The other point about
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: this is I think the reason why they're scared to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: go to trial and pursue the death penalty is because
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: lawyers will argue that these guys were water boarded, that
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: they were put under duress, and that was how the
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: confession obtained, and so I think they're a little concerned.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: How it might go.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: But that just goes back to the fact if you
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: fly aeroplanes and buildings killed three thousand people, how much
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: legalies did it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But they never had to run the case.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: They could have just left them in Guantanamo Bay until
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: they're carct it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: So now they get to day in a different prison.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: They've been much nicer than Guantanamo Bay.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: The only difference is like, oh, thanks for the guilty plea.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, That's all they're all they're extracting is the
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: guilty plea. But so the admission of guilt, Yes, we
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: say we did nine to eleven, but like twenty four
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: years down the line, I don't think anyone was hanging
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: on it's.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Not the admission of guilt.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: It would have been a better version of justice to
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: leave them in Guantanamo Bay where they get water boarded
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: and tortured and whatever else until they finally die.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Whoever the last person was to visit Jeff Epstein, You
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: get him to go and visit them in Guantanamo Bay.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Problem solve. If you want moral clarity, you can't go
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: better than Israel. They took care of a couple of
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: terrorists this week and dealt with things strongly in order
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: to keep their people safe, taking out the Hesbala military
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: commander at a strike in Beirut and the military leader
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: of Hamas in a strike on Terehran. Now, predictably, the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Ayatola has come out saying that they will retaliate against Israel.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Have listened to this tweet, he wrote, following this bitter
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: tragic event which he's referring there to the killing of
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Hamas political leader, which has taken place within the borders
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: of the Islamic Republic. I just got to stop there
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: for a second. This is amazing how the Iotolra is
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: suddenly concerned about international sovereign boarders, after financing a thousand
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Terrists to go into Israel, after attacking Israel in April
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: with three hundred drones, suddenly always all about protecting borders
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: and respecting international sovereignty. Sorry, let me go back to
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the tweet before I was rudely interrupted by the Ayatolas idiocy.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: He said, this event taking place within the borders of
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: the Islamic Republic, It's our duty to take revenge the
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: criminal terrorist Zionist regime martyred our dear guest, yes, who
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: was also the leader of a terrorist organization that raped, beheaded,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: slaughtered and kidnapped civilians. This dear guest in our territory
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: and has caused our grief, but it has also prepared
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the ground for a severe punishment, which is kind of
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: hilarious considering he's making out like this will be the
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: thing that finally rouses Iran against Israel. They've been calling
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Israel a cancer of virus. They've been calling for Israel
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: to be wiped off the map for years. They've been
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: developing nuclear weapons to take care of Israel. They've been
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: sponsoring numerous organizations to continually make war against Israel. As
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: I said in April, long before this guy was assassinated
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: in Tehran, they sent three hundred drones and missiles across into.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Let's be clear, though they can keep bringing up the
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: drone strike, what is clear was they did that a
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: month after Israel bombed the Iran consulate in Damascus, Syria.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: They've always got a good reason, the Iranians, They've always
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: got a reason why they.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Suddenly had they did retaliate Israel had gone into Jamascus,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Syria to bomb the Iranian consulate. They knew, of course,
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: that would require Iran's ire, and that's what came thick
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: and fast.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Let's me fair when we tell these stories.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I'm being very fair around. I've always been committed to
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: the destruction of Israel. That event she suddenly aroused him,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: his absolutely gone, and that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Drone strike was just like they woke up one day. No, No,
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: Israel had even tried to negotiate and say, look, we
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: know we blew up your concholate in Damascus, Syria, but
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: for a bit of easygoingness in Gaza, do you want
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: to do a deal?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: My point is, and that was never going to happen.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: The io toll of pretending like this recent assassination has
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: suddenly roused their ire and now they must take revenge
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: is absolutely garbage.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: They're never hidden there.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: I told Saying that we're going to seek revenge is
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: almost something of a non story. I mean, of course
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: that's what he was going to say. It was always
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: going to happen, Right, Israel goes after someone in their borders,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: of course they're going to retaliate. We all knew that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: where this was going to go. But I think if
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: you look at the broader context in the rest of
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: the world, and we'll go to the US because of course,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: if there were to be all out war, the US
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: and the rest of the Western world would be drawn
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: into this. This is one the reasons I really hope
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump is elected president at the end of this year,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: because despite what Jadi Vance has said about going into Iran,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: and I don't think that's the view that Donald Trump
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: would take. Trump has very much staked the beginning at
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: least of his presidency on ending war. He's promised to
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: end the war in Russia Ukraine, for instance. He would
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: not want to see another war on his watch, and
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I think he would work very hard to absolutely everything
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: he possibly could to avoid any kind of all out
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: war in the Middle East. If you've got Harris there
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: as president, and we know how much money that Biden
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: has given to Iran.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Since he was elected in twenty twenty, I.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Mean, they would essentially be shoveling money into all already
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: have been shoveling money into Iran that they then misappropriate
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: to go to war in the Middle East, to which
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: the US then gets dragged into. Trump's the only man
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: who can save us from that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Look Caryl Harris recently gave a speech where she was
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: telling people we ought not to talk about Islamic terrorism.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: We don't want to use that term. So everybody knows
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: should be weak as dishwater. The other thing, though, is
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: you have to wonder whether Iran really can take revenge.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, that three hundred drone and missile attack was
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: pretty lame. Israel shot down pretty much every single one
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: of them. Iran have been talking for a long time
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: about doing something to Israel. They've never managed to do it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: They always work through proxies, and Israel have called their bluff.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: I don't know about downing that drone strike that we
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: saw in May, because a lot of experts have said
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: that Iran was actually running a bit of a drill.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: They needed to find out what Israel's iron dome capabilities were.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: Fifteen percent of their missiles actually did get through and
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: cause some damage. But what they have now is Israel's
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: measure as to how.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Much they can get away with.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: And certainly if they join forces as we've been talking about,
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: they could in the future have a big gang up
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: with Hesbula Iran calling in However, many other jihadi's they
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: want to to just have an all in war, which
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: of course is why Israel is relying very heavily on
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: America in the event that that happens, because if that happens,
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: Israel knows I will have bitten off far more than
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: I can chew, and I need America's help. But I
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: think it's really clear. Sorry, it's really important to make
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: something clear when I speak to this issue going forward,
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: because it is more than possible to support Israel and
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: oppose net Yahoo. And let's remember, most Israelis love their country,
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: but oppose this man. We all know the minute they
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: get to go to the polls on election day, net
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: Nyaho is a goner. So to say that in order
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: to support Israel, one must support net Yahoo would be
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: to accuse most Israelis I'm not supporting their own country.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: I hope we can all agree that would be an
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: absolute nonsense. So let it not be said of me.
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: I believe that what the Ayatola is saying here, he
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: is going to keep his word. Trust me, as is
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: Hesbelah because they warned if Israel retaliates what's happened in
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: the Golden Heights, which Hesbela, not like them, did not
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: take credit for that bombing that occurred.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: And it is questionable.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Because they they found out it wasn't Jews that were killed.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Conflicting reports anyway. That aside, Hesbela made sure Israel was
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: very well aware.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: If you retaliate, be root is our red line.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: And the fact that Netnya, who considered it worth the
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: absolute access of resistance, he is now going to cop
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: the brunt of you said that he took out these
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: two evil pigs.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: No one's morning. They're passing to keep his people safe.
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: I simply cannot believe that when you consider the hell.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: That now awaits them.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: They've already got bomb shelters open, they're preparing for the worst.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: This is the very opposite of what you do.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: If Netnya, who was seeking peace, he would not provoke
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: his neighbors like this.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: And America begs hims not to do this.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Because their number one priority is to keep this. As Netna,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: who promised it's humans, changed his tune.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: It's not met.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: As Netna who promised keep it versus hamask keep it
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: in Gaza. We do not need a regional war. And
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: to say that popping the heads of two evil guys
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: who are going to be replaced by two more evil guys.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: As soon as they're dead. Is was worth what is
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: now going to happen.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: There's three problems. Firstly, to keep them anything that's really
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: to keep the peace, you've got to have a partner
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: in peace, and there is no partner in peace anywhere
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: in the Middle East for Israel, all them.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: It is not true.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: They have treaties with Egypt, Jordan is currently can I
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: just finishing to say planning Israel's defense They do have friends,
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: that's just sorry.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: It's all their so called peace partners, whether it's her Mass,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: whether it's Israel, whether it's Lebanon who continue to give
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Hesbalah free reign, are committed to the destruction of Israel.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: They're not peace partners. Second, keep it in Gaza. You
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: can't keep it in Gaza because this thing is being fueled,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: this thing is being planned, it's being financed by Iran.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: So it was always bigger than just Gaza. And Third,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Israel know that at some point, and everybody knows this,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: at some point, you're going to get a war in
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: the Middle East, So Israel have a choice.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: We just that's not true, Matte. We haven't had to
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: row in the Middle East.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: For many the reason we're trying to stop Iran.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: Getting nuclear about October seventh.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: The reason we're trying to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: is because Iran are sworn to the destruction of Israel
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: and everything.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Israel has three hundred warheads.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: And everybody for warheads, and everybody fears if Iran gets there,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: they will use them, because that's their stated goal. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Israel is saying we either sit here like sitting ducks
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and just wait, or we do things on our terms
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: and we teach these nations that we won't tolerate things
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: and credit to them for that. That's the sort of
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: government I would want if our nation was under attack,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: and it's not just letn Yaho. Any Israeli prime minister
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: worth their salt would take out terrists wherever they are
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: to let them all know you will never get away
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: with this, will never go soft on you. Moral.
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: I think he's already proved that well and truly, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: I just think for any reasonable person to agree that
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: popping the heads of two evil guys who are going
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: to be replaced by two just as evil guys is
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: going to be worth the all out war that he
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: has I would say, intentionally provoked because he knew that Hesbela,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: he knew that.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Iran are now duty bound to respond.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: I don't see how any reasonable person can argue that's
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: worth what's now coming to Israel.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: We got to go to a break. When we come back,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: we'll look at what's making news in the papers, including
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a Chinese swimmer who wins gold. But to everyone's saying
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: that swim was not humanly possible. It's coming up in
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: just the moment. All right, welcome back. Let's take a
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. But before
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: we get to tomorrow's papers, there's news making way right
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: now with a massive prisoner swap CALEB between Russia and
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: the United States.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And these are unconfirmed reports. This has been put up
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: by the Australian literally three minutes ago.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: But to Evan Gershkevich, who.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Was a journalist at the Wall Street Journal had been
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: accused by Russia of espionage back in twenty thirteen. He
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: was jailed a couple of months ago July nineteen in
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: a Russian court was meant to be sent off to
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: a penal colony. But there are unconfirmed reports out tonight
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: that there could be a prisoner swap. This is coming
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: from the Telegraph in the UK with former US Marine
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: Paul Wheelan. That would be between the US and Russia.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: And now the charges were trumped up. I mean, you know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: he was a journalist working in Russia. There was no
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: evidence that he had done anything wrong. He was detained
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: for quite some time since March twenty thirteen. They ran
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: a kangaroo court trial on him a month ago and
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: locked him up for whatever reason. I suspect political reasons.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: But the news that he could well now be freed
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: obviously will be welcome to him and welcome to all
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: of us here at News Corp. He's part of the
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: News Corp family. But news that I don't think was
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: expected to happen quite so quickly. It was barely a
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: month ago that he was locked up, and they've already
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: come up with reportedly some kind of a deal to
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: free him.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: And it wouldn't involve just him. There reporting that this
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: could involve thirty prisoners from both sides, which would be
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: the largest prisoner swap since the end of the Cold War.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Back in twenty ten, there was a prisoner exchange involving
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: fourteen people but as is reported, this one may involve
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: up to thirty people.
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: So yeah, well, more details to come, I'm sure. Right
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: now we've just got the scraps. But it's always very
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: interesting to question what's behind these swaps, who negotiated them,
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: how we reached this point, Like you say, Caleb, if true,
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: if these reports are confirmed, that is record time.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It is record time.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: The US probably not the DOJ in this particular case,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: but they've been up to a lot of stuff very recently,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: it would say. Let's get into some of the other
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: news floating around today. Now this broke this evening. We'll
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: get into a lot of the Olympic news on the
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: front of the papers. But before we get to the papers,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: you probably know that we've been talking about the last
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: few nights two boxers who've been given clearance to compete
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: at the Olympics. They say that they are female, but
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: they were banned for competing at the World Boxing Championships
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: last year because they undertok DNA testing, which found that
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: they had X Y chromosomes, which would of course indicate
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: that they are biological men.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Would you believe it?
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: This evening?
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: One of those people, Imman Califf, is Algerian boxer went
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: into the ring with an Italian female boxer, Angela Quarini,
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: and it took all of forty seconds for missus Karini
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: to go into the corner and pull out of the fight.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I think we're all waiting for something like this to
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: happen after all the publicity, the gender storm, as the
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: headline says there that was created around.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: All of this.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: It took all of forty seconds for Califf's opponent to
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: feel like, I'm not safe here and I'm getting out
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: of here. Doesn't that tell you everything?
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: In the first forty seconds, the Italian Angela Quarini was
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: punched in the nose, called the fight off, and then
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: when asked why, she said, and I quote may people say,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: don't go into the fight. It's dangerous. She's a man.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's this, So there you go, there you go.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: She's called.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Now I'm going to see an apology. We're going to
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: see a backpedal from the Olympic committee that said, ah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: we're absolutely okay with just making men bashing women a
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: spectator sport. That's totally fine. Are they now going to
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: allow the second one to compete? This is the first
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: one to take the ring. His female component only lasted
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: forty seconds. Are they now going to backpedal, because if
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: they have any sceric of decency, we'll see them take
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: action and very swiftly to say how bad turns out
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: having woman on your passport, as this committee argued and
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: we talked about last night, turns out having women on
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: your passport doesn't actually make you a woman and means
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: one punch in the face. And this woman is choosing
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: her life over competing in the.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Sport that she has trained for years for this moment, and.
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: She has to miss out because some narcissistic bloke has
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: decided to identify as a woman woman, and she misses
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: out on everything.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: She could have been a medalist. Who knows now we
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: never will.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: And obviously put in harm's way. Let's go to some
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: other Olympic news. Is on the front of the Daily
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Telegraph tomorrow, I think the story that's been on all
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: of our lips. It says China's defeat of Charmers deemed
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: not humanly possible. Fast and furious is the headline. Emphasis
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: on the furious Ozzie swimming legend Kyl Chalmers. By the way,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: good Adelaide boy just like me, though I'm not as
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: adept in the swimming pool, could not have been more
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: gracious despite being denied gold by a performance labeled not
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: humanly possible. China's Pan Zanli smashed the one hundred meter
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: world record byero point four of a second, infuriating some,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: including elite Australian coach Brett Hawk. And it was mister
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Hawk who said that it was not humanly possible. Now,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: everything that we know about Russia and the alleged doping
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: in which it has engaged, particularly in relation to its
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: swimming and we talked about this last night, the case
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: that came to light earlier this year.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: So you said Russia, you mean China?
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Which is Russia.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: God, I've got Russia on the mind from the last
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: three That wouldn't be so two sort of dictatorial regimes.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: They may well be involved in doping as well. China,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: they're doping stuff.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: So the story that we learnt back in April.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Julian Linden in the in the Daily Telegraph, a story
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: that had been suppressed by both China and the World
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Anti Doping Authority or Agency as it's called, from before
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: the Tokyo Olympics, where twenty three Chinese swimmers had tested
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: positive to a heart drug that allows more blood to
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: flow to the heart. They determined that all of those
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: positive tests were just contamination and no one was told
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: about the fact that it had happened.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Then we had the story we learnt about yesterday.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Where two Chinese swimmers were suspended for a year and
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: they didn't tell anyone that that had happened until they
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: determined that the steroids they had tested positive too had
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: in fact been in a burger they had eaten and
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: washed down with fries and soft drink. They blamed that
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: on Australian beef in twenty twenty one, despite the fact
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: that there was a bad put on Australian beef being
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: imported into China in twenty twenty And now we are
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: to believe that this particular gentleman was able to beat
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Kyle Charmers by the biggest margin in this particular event
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: in ninety six years now. I'm not suggesting that he
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: has doped, but my god, there might be the question
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: on a few of our lips, could this guy have doped?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Seriously?
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: And this is the problem with the way the Olympic
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Committee are doing things right because Let's imagine he hasn't doped.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: So the guy's just swung the race of his life,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: the best in almost one hundred years, and everyone's like, yeah,
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: we're not social and it's because of the way that
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: the IOC do everything so secretively.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Well it's not the IOC in this case.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: It's wow, yes, right, they're all tested. So in order
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: for him to actually have doped and successfully made it
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: into the pool, jumped up on something giving him superhuman
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: strength to win, indeed more than when create a new record,
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: won this bit.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: Surely the testing, that's the whole purpose of the testing.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Well, not necessarily, not necessarily, And this is where the
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: whole business with China Arder comes into.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: That's China's antidoping agency. Because if we go back to
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that case before the.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Tokyo Olympics where those twenty three swimmers tested positive to
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: that drug that flows more blood to the heart. Now,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: if you use that in the lead up the preparation
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: for something like the Olympics, you could argue that gives
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: you an advantage at the Olympics, even though you're not
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: drugged up at the time, because it allowed you to
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: train to a higher level and so you could well
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: do something like that in this particular case, and knowing
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: the fact that Chinada has actively covered up these cases before,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: you'd had to ask the question, could a Chinese swimmer
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: legitimately dope in the lead up to the Olympics that's
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: not revealed by Chinader.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: You go to the Olympics with nothing.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: In your system, but you've been given an advantage in
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: the leader.
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: Well, it's important to so that Kyle Chalmers hats off
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: to him, the OSSI who's now summer saying, oh he
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: was wrobbed.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: This guy couldn't have possibly done this.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: He's been so gracious about it, he says, I trust
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: that he's done everything you possibly can to be there.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: I e.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: At the Olympics, and he deserves that gold medal, and
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: I did everything I possibly could to challenge for that
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: gold medal.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: So he's been very gracious.
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: He's not actually casting any aspersions whatsoever.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: Well, he can't kid me the first person too. I
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: know I would be I'd like you beat me yet cheated.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: He can't do it publicly, but I can, and that's
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: why I've done it. And that's what my column is
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: in the Advertiser as well tomorrow make sure you check that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: And just a reminder before we go to the break.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Unconfirmed reports tonight that Evan Gershkevich, a wall I was
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: going to say, Wall Street journal journalist who was detained
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: in Russia, may well be freed in a prisoner swap
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: deal with the US.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Very good, Well, we're going to go to a break.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: When we come back, a schoolteacher sues the education department
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: after she injures herself playing basketball. It's coming up in
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: a second. Welcome back, Well, Lis on TikTok. I don't
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: know if you are, but.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: That they already have no he certainly well, he deeply
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: regrets it now. Twenty nine year old craigmore Man was
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: hooning happily through McLaren Vale, showing himself filming himself rather
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: doing one hundred and seventy seven k's in a sixty
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: k zone. He was so proud of this he wanted
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: to boast about it by putting.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: It on TikTok.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: Here's the video.
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: And thanks to his solid belief in how cool he
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: was being, the police rocked up days later, took his car,
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: took his license.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: And the dudes in big trouble.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: You guys, always pick on me when we have those
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: arguments about whether or not we should make it illegal
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: for these kids to.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Post their wrongdoings.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: In this case, he was twenty nine years old. But
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: to make these kinds of posts illegal and I have
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: always argued no, because it helps the cops. It's just like,
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: thanks for telling me everything about yourself. Now I can
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: just look you up, rock up at your door and arrest.
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: You all whatever I need to do for the felony
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: that you've committed. Case in points, gentlemen, all the lights he.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Got on social media. It was totally worth.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: We need a new segment Dope of the Day.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Speaking of which, there's a Victorian teacher who's suing the
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: education department after she injured herself playing basketball in heels.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Now she's suing the department because they failed to tell
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: her to remove the heels and put on sports shoes. Moreover,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: she says they should have shown her that she didn't
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: need to jump into the air, oh, shooting a basketball.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Can you believe this? She got a forensic engineer to
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: give evidence in the case. He measured the size of
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: the heels, worked out she should have been sports shoes.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: The judge said he was not qualified as a forensic
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: engineer to rule on shoes. The case continues. That's it
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: from us, but stick around. That readA Pennehey show is
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: coming right up.