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- 0:00In this lessons episode, discover how bias for action and intentionality fueled the rapid rise
- 0:05of a newsletter in a saturated AI content market. Learn why building something meaningful starts
- 0:10with small, consistent wins, understand how differentiating through voice and human touch
- 0:14creates standout content and explore how humble goals and focused execution turned early traction
- 0:19into a funded media business.
- 0:21What are your thoughts on the future of your project?
- 0:28Outside of lessons that you learned from, like, my first million and obviously,
- 0:33you know, Sam built the hustle, Sean built, Melk Road, so two great examples there.
- 0:38And I think they speak about them a lot, some strategies at how to grow scale.
- 0:42And I actually think it's a really interesting business model.
- 0:45We can talk about if it's something that can be done almost like predictably as a business
- 0:51model to sort of copy the playbook that they had that you had. And if you can, you know,
- 0:56someone listening can start one today and build it and exit. I think that's an interesting
- 1:00conversation because they seem to be so confident about it. And I guess you're a living example
- 1:05of listening to some advice and then running with it. But outside of the newsletter,
- 1:09advice that you got, what were some of the, because you've gone through sales jobs,
- 1:15Amazon, FBA, building a, building a band and being a creator before, what were some of the
- 1:23most important ideas that you've learned up to this point in your career? I know you're still
- 1:27young, but what were some of the most important business ideas that helped you make mindstream
- 1:32successful? I think the core of it is just having a bias for action. I think the majority of
- 1:38people today are consumers, and the load of people who think they're being productive listening
- 1:46to loads of business podcasts. And the year before I started mindstream, like 2023,
- 1:55sort of January when I was looking at my goals for the year, my main goal for that year was I
- 2:01want to become someone who does something rather than say something because I've always been
- 2:05able to sell myself as one of the best assets I have. The problem is when you're selling yourself,
- 2:11but you're not actually doing anything, it's just a lie at the core of it, you know what I mean?
- 2:16So I set myself the challenge that year of becoming the person who continues to sell
- 2:22itself but has something that's really exciting to sell. So having that bias for action
- 2:28is something I'm very, very grateful to have to have it kind of like in my core. And it's been
- 2:35there all my life, you know, started my first business at 14 doing events, went out and did the
- 2:39band, you know, I've always had the energy to kind of go out and do things. And then also the thing
- 2:46I'm really like my word of the year of 2025 is intention. Like I'm working quite hard to
- 2:54analyze all aspects of my life and optimize and really work on life building. And whenever I
- 3:02like discuss it, it always comes down to like being intentional. That's how I get happiness and
- 3:09success out of something. And to be intentional, you have to have like a big, you have to have
- 3:15a big picture. I don't think you can be intentional of you're really in the weeds. You just end up
- 3:20being reactive. So being able to kind of step out, analyze a situation, know the end goal you're
- 3:26going towards and then make intentional decisions that will help you get there. I think those having
- 3:32those two things really is kind of the core of what you need to go out and be successful in something.
- 3:38Yeah, I think that's very wise. I think that even without intention, her mostly speaks about
- 3:43this a lot, how entrepreneurs sometimes last in this cycle their entire life about starting something
- 3:48and getting excited about it. Then the hardship happens and then you get kind of disenchanted
- 3:54with it. Then you start the next thing and then you get the motivation to start it and then
- 3:58hardship happens and then you move on to the next thing. And I think it's because you don't have
- 4:02that big picture or that North star and you and you aren't intentional about what you're doing.
- 4:06Like intention in my mind is what gets you through all those inevitably hard moments that are going
- 4:13to occur whenever you're building anything meaningful. You need to have intention and you need to
- 4:17have North star and you'd have a vision bigger than the city thing that's bound to happen
- 4:25on the way to building the impressive incredible amazing thing. It's so, so, so important.
- 4:32I know that when you started Mindstream, it didn't like blow up right away. It took a second.
- 4:40So early days of sending that newsletter. Actually, before we even talk about early days of sending
- 4:47the newsletter, what made you want to focus on AI content? What was like, what was the signal in
- 4:51the market that that was a good idea? So this is May 24th of May 2023 that we sat down and when we
- 5:01sat down to decide on what we're going to start, we didn't know it was going to be a newsletter and
- 5:04we didn't know it was going to be AI. We made that decision in the space of two or three hours.
- 5:09So I have to think about what I was influenced by at that time. And most of my, like I said earlier,
- 5:17most of my time at work was spent outbounding on LinkedIn. That's a little bit of a lie.
- 5:22Most of my time at work was spent scrolling through LinkedIn, right? You know, and maybe
- 5:26of course, maybe a little bit of outbound. And obviously, there's an algorithmic effect
- 5:34to someone's LinkedIn feed, but mine became all about AI. And I was following these creators who were
- 5:40who was building these, um, following, talking about AI. If anyone thinks back to that time,
- 5:46it was just everything. Like someone could put a lead magnet of a hundred Chatchy Pity prompts and
- 5:52get like thousands of emails overnight. So it was the obvious thing to go for at the time.
- 5:58That's not the, that's not enough, I don't think. So when me and Matt sat down and talking about it,
- 6:03I said, I think AI is the thing. Do you, as the copyrighter, care enough about this technology to
- 6:10write about it every day? And luckily Matt did. Otherwise, we might have picked something totally
- 6:15different and not be where we are today. I think that, listen, there's something to be said for,
- 6:21like, writing a trend. I think that's, I think that's a, it's smart, but
- 6:26and trends are also busy. So that means that there was probably a whole bunch of other people
- 6:29writing AI newsletter. So I think that just jumping on like a bandwagon trend, it sounds compelling
- 6:34and it sounds like a great idea. But then you realize that everybody's doing it. So you still have
- 6:38to differentiate somehow. Um, it's not like it's, it's not like it's easy. Do you think, do you think
- 6:45that if you had chosen to write about anything else, you would have been as successful as fast?
- 6:52Definitely not. Definitely not. Um, you mentioned about the competition. Even when we sat down to,
- 6:59to start mind stream, they're, I remember looking at it and there were more than a thousand
- 7:03AI newsletters on Beehive. Like on our pay one, there was more than a thousand.
- 7:07That's ridiculous. I think, I think a reason for that is Sean Peary had said six months before
- 7:13someone needs to go and do the hustle for AI. Um, so I was, I was late. Like we were late. Um,
- 7:20superhuman, the rundown already had, I think half a million subscribers. So we were so late.
- 7:26There was big players in the game and there were hundreds and hundreds of smaller players in the
- 7:29game. So in those very early days when we kind of analyzed the market, what we realized is that
- 7:35most of the newsletters were quite smartly using AI technology to, um, to just consolidate
- 7:44what's going on. They were doing like a pretty good job of curating all of the buzz and there
- 7:48were so much buzz and then using AI to write these newsletters and they were just basically saying,
- 7:54like, here's what happened. That, that, that was it. And they were all formatted in the same way
- 8:00because they were all being built on Beehive, which had this like, you know, amazing way of building
- 8:04these newsletters. So they all kind of looked the same. Um, what we had was, with Matt, was like a real
- 8:09copywriter, like a real experienced copywriter who knew, who knew how to connect with people,
- 8:16who knew how to, you know, have a journalistic angle to something. And from day one, what we tried
- 8:21to do is not just report on the biggest AI news, but the AI news that we thought was really
- 8:25interesting and then to give an opinion on that news. So it's not just here. It's happened. It's
- 8:31here's what happened and this, this is what it might mean for you. This is what it means for
- 8:34X. This is what it means for Y. And that's how we differentiated from day one. Yes, Martin,
- 8:39just you make it to include a human component into it, not just, not just aggregating.
- 8:45And also we signed off every newsletter with written by humans. That was like our little tag at the
- 8:50end. In this time when everyone was like using AI to write copy in the early days and it was all rubbish,
- 8:56we were in by use. So this brings you back to the sort of the point I was
- 9:00alluding to before. When you first started, you did not get the traction that you were looking for.
- 9:04I think that from what I understood, you were getting like, you were sending this newsletter to
- 9:1030, 40 people a day, your dad was reading it like, like really, really early startup shit,
- 9:17right? Not like, not like immediately you get a thousand subs. So how long did you go through
- 9:27this period of just trying to figure it out? What kept you motivated? What made you think,
- 9:34you know what, even though it's not picking up, we're definitely on the right track because just to
- 9:39frame it, whatever, a couple hundred or a thousand AI newsletters, there's some with 500,000 subs,
- 9:46you start, you've never built a newsletter business before. You realize that it's a
- 9:52kind of like a crowded competitive space. You're not getting traction.
- 9:57And some people throw in the towel very quickly. I think that if you look at like even stats for
- 10:00podcasters, if you've done more than 10 podcasts, I'm pretty sure it's something ridiculous.
- 10:04Like you're in the top 1% of podcasters just by releasing 10 plus episodes. So what made you
- 10:09continue? So we had, we had pretty humble goals at the start. We both invested 500 pounds to get it
- 10:18started. And that that runway like gave us, I think a few months just in terms of like the small
- 10:23SaaS cost we had at the start. And our goal was, can we both quit our jobs before the end of the
- 10:30year? And this was May. So in six months time, can we replace our sales and copywriting jobs? And
- 10:38we weren't earning a lot of money here in the UK at the time. So it was just about these tiny
- 10:44building blocks. And my day used to be wake up at 6am, go to the gym, come home, write a piece of
- 10:52content for LinkedIn. Like Matt was writing the newsletter, I was trying to build a following
- 10:56on LinkedIn to generate subscribers. I then scheduled that piece of content, go to work and do
- 11:02my sales job. I would then run home for my lunch break, like five, five, ten minute walk from
- 11:09my house. So I would literally run home, get on my laptop and engage on LinkedIn around the time
- 11:15of the post. As you'll know, like creating content on LinkedIn, like engagement is pretty key.
- 11:21So I'd literally be sat on LinkedIn, like writing comments to all these people,
- 11:25kinds of comments on my post. Then I'd run back to the office, finish my job, come
- 11:31home at the end of the day and spend another couple of hours on LinkedIn. And when you're like
- 11:36that focused on essentially things that don't scale, you know, it was like DMing people asking
- 11:43them to join the newsletter. It was posting this content, commenting on all these people's posts.
- 11:51You can get like obsessed with the small wins, you know, oh, I've got a thousand impressions
- 11:56on the post for the first time. I've just hit a thousand followers on LinkedIn. And that was
- 12:00probably the first six or seven weeks. And we probably got like a thousand subscribers from
- 12:07LinkedIn. Then at that point, Beehive did this like promotion where they were offering like they
- 12:14they'd match your investment into their boosts program, which is like a cross paid cross
- 12:22collaboration across newsletters. So we then dropped in two and a half thousand, which was the maximum.
- 12:27So we got five thousand dollars of boost credits and started paying for subscribers that way.
- 12:33So suddenly we were having like two thousand, three thousand subscribers. And at that point,
- 12:38we made some money. Someone wanted to advertise in the newsletter. And they also paid me to
- 12:44post about their content on LinkedIn. I think it was like two, three hundred dollars for our first
- 12:49sponsor. And amazing. So that's like now you validated. It's been in a small way, the idea. Yeah.
- 12:56That was it. You hit the nail on the head. It was it was validation. And then you could start to
- 13:01build a model, right? You could go, okay, we have this many subscribers. We charged this CPM,
- 13:07a charge did this CPM for my LinkedIn. And you can just model it out from there. And with this
- 13:14model, we were able to secure some investment. So we had two and a half thousand subscribers.
- 13:20We'd made like maybe five, six hundred pounds at this point. And I secured a forty thousand
- 13:26pound investment for a 10 percent of the company. So it was like four hundred thousand pound
- 13:30valuation. And that was it. That was our runway. We'd achieve the goal of, can we quit our jobs,
- 13:37you know, three? So what? Oh, go ahead. Sorry. Three months in this was. So it was launched in May.
- 13:44And then yes, September October, we got this deal over the line. Thanks for tuning in.
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