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The Dark Alliance of Big Pharma & Big Food w/ Dr. Tenpenny · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. As we look around this country, what we see is it's become increasingly evil. I mean, it just to be very blunt. You know, if I go back to growing up in the the nineties and late eighties and early two thousands, that the country is so different than what it was before.
• 0:37
  But is it that the evil just didn't exist before or that it was hidden and that we're now seeing it. And and I believe more the latter that what's happening is that, the evil that had been, you know, really infiltrated almost all aspects of our society and our world, it was so successful and so powerful because it was hidden. And what we're seeing now, especially since the pandemic, is that more and more people around the world are saying, I see you. You're not hiding anymore, and people are aware of the evil. And what happens when people see evil, they either run away from it, they freeze, or they confront it.
• 1:13
  And a lot of people are choosing to confront the evil, which is a very frightening prospect for the people that are evil that are trying to control the world and drive us into some sort of technocracy and dystopian future. And so joining me today is doctor Sherri Tenpini, someone who's been on the forefront, especially within the medical sector in educating people about the truth of medicine and the evils of our current big pharma medical industrial complex. And so we're gonna be diving into a lot of the the the evil and the the big picture, the battle of good and evil, but also looking at fifteen minute cities, the World Economic Forum, and their intentions, but also how we can resist this and why just simple noncompliance is so powerful and potent. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with doctor Sherri Tenpenny. Alright.
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• 3:15
  So folks, what are you waiting for? Head over to hear.com/seth. That's hear.com/seth. Doctor. Sherri Tenpenny, it is such an honor to have you back on the show.
• 3:27
  Thank you so much for giving us your time today.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's such a pleasure to be here, Seth. I'm so glad to be back with you.
• 3:33
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. So there's a lot of things that are happening in the the medical world, right, which is where you you live. And whether it's, you know, the recent discovery, you know, not recent discoveries, but now it's becoming more mainstream that things like ivermectin can be used to treat cancer. There's a lot of pushback that we're seeing now, especially with, you know, RFK junior and the MAHA movement. There's major pushback now in saying, hey.
• 4:02
  Why why are the foods in America full of poisons that are not avail available anywhere else? Right? It's it's I think that what's happening is that there's a lot of people in America, especially after the whole, you know, pandemic and all the deception that are realizing that, you know, organizations like the FDA or the CDC actually aren't in the best interest acting in the best interest of the people, and what we're finding out, in fact, that it's this in a lot of ways, could say it's this, like, a criminal cabal of a pharmaceutical and food industrial complex that's focused on keeping us sick so they can be treating us, and they keep selling us poison and selling us the cure, but the cure is actually the poison, and then we'd all end up dead. So it's like it's a kind of a wild realization that we're going through, but I know that you've been at the center of of really helping to educate people, about just the the the harms and the toxics and the poi the poisons, but also how to get those things out of our systems. And so, you know, I guess, miss, you know, handing it to you, where where do you wanna focus in this in this topic?
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's an expression, and I I don't remember. Maybe you can enlighten me. I don't remember who's the person who said it, but they said we get the government we deserve. Interesting. Interesting.
• 5:23
  Believe that we have gotten the government that we have deserved because everybody's been asleep at the wheel. Everybody's had their hands off the steering wheel, haven't been really paying that attention. The people that read labels and ate organic and did saunas and detox were labeled crunchy moms, and that they were kind of disparaged and thought that that was kind of ridiculous. And now it's coming full circle that they were right all along and that those people who had said, you know, food is best and don't eat stuff that comes out of a box, can or is wrapped up in a plastic wrapper. And now that we're seeing that there are thousands and thousands of ingredients, it's not, they're not available elsewhere.
• 6:09
  They're just not used and approved elsewhere. I mean, there's more than 10,000 food additives in our food, and I read somewhere that up to 3,000 food additives, may eat on a daily basis, on just, you know, going out to lunch, going to dinner, you know, things like that, unless you are a health conscious eater that you're just eating more than 3,000 different food items every day. And there's more than 10,000 that are available and something like only 400 of those are available in Canada and in Europe. We've been asleep at the wheel. You know, how many people have you heard say over the years, boy, when I travel to Europe, I love going to Europe because the food is just wonderful.
• 6:50
  It's because go to the farmer's market almost every day and buy their food fresh for dinner that night. And we drive through McDonald's. And so it's not that this information hasn't been available. It's just that most people have been kind of a sleek at the wheel And convenience has been the name of the game instead of wholesome, nutritious, beneficial, non harmful. Because the thing when they approve a lot of these ingredients, they give them a designation called GRAS, G R A S, which stands for generally recommended as safe.
• 7:31
  And they are generally recommended as safe if you take one molecule and you test it in isolation for a short period of time and nothing happens, well, then they're probably safe. But the problem is that we never eat one of those little food additives in isolation. There's like 20 or 30 or 40 in one morsel or one, you know, power bar of what you're eating. And then the cumulative effects of eating that power bar every single day, because that's how you start your day. You get up in the morning, grab a power bar and have a cup of coffee.
• 8:03
  What are the cumulative effects of those food additives? We don't know. What are the additive effects of the food additives added together? We don't know. And so, you know, this whole designation of generally recommended as safe has just been a way for big industry to push things into our food that's been not good.
• 8:25
  And when you mentioned the medical food, pharmaceutical, big egg, big food, anything with a big in it, big tech, big food, big egg. They're not in the best interest of the people. And we've kind of fallen asleep at the wheel on that too. I did an interview yesterday on one of my podcasts with a gentleman who wrote the book Rich Soil. It was rich soil.
• 8:54
  Gosh, I'm so sorry for stumbling over this. It's land rich cash poor. And it was about the, the, the lot of the land rich cash poor. His name was Brian, Breisinger. And he wrote and written a book about the decimation of the family farm.
• 9:12
  And one of the stats that he gave me was that 45,000 family farms per year have gone away over the last hundred years, which is, yes, there you go. And it was wonderful. You should have him on your show.
• 9:26
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, I should. Is, I'm fascinated by this, which I mean, and I Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: No, no, he's just a great guy and really understands because And he grew up on a family farm in Southern Wisconsin, and lives now in California, but goes back and forth, and the family farms still exist, And it was really interesting about what we can do to save the family farm and get this back. And so this whole thing kind of comes together with the loss of our family farm by big ag, big tech, all these different things that are happening that I would say this is another one of what I would call the gift of COVID, which I think there are a couple. One of the most important ones is it has made people question so many things. And people that have gone, what in the world? And now we're saying they questioned the COVID jabs and what was in them.
• 10:22
  They see all the people that are sick or died. And then it's like, well, what's in the other jabs? What about our government? What about our food? What about our air or water?
• 10:31
  And so suddenly it seems as though there's an awakening giant of the American population that's going, how did we get here? And it's been, in my opinion, because everybody's kind of been asleep at the wheel and made fun of the people that tried to do something otherwise for the last several decades.
• 10:49
  Seth Holehouse: And it's really unfortunate because I think that a lot of this has been very intentional social engineering of the American people. And I think that our our innate nature has been taken advantage of. I think that a lot of Americans, and I think people around the world, but we'll talk about Americans, are actually inherently good people, and and we're trusting. And we we believe that most people are inherently good. And so when a doctor's wrecking recommending medication, you know, it's like, well, they're not trying to harm me.
• 11:20
  Right? Like, they're they're they're they're doing the best for me. So I remember growing up, you know, you know, go you go to the family doctor, and we had this great pediatrician, and, you know, I found out later in life that he was also the guy that, you know, put my brother on benzodiazepines when he was 16, you know, for for depression. So he was on Klonopin when he was 16 years old, which ended up, you know, creating a cascading of a train wreck of effects. So people are are realizing that and it's interesting.
• 11:48
  You know, I'll I'll bring up this to farm again. This this is fascinating. I I would love to interview this guy because, this is, again, part of, I think what I really believe is part of the overall social engineering that it's been very intentional to get Americans off the farms and to get us into these cities. Because if you look historically at the countries that have fallen, into tyranny or corruption, one of the big aspects of that was getting people off the farms and having the government start seizing control of the land and the farms and getting them into the cities where they're easier to control. They can form labor unions.
• 12:23
  They can, you know, that becomes a whole separate entity that's part of society that they can actually enact control on. They can create the welfare state much more easily when people are living in a big city and they can't grow their own food. So, yeah, this is I'm I'm fascinated by this, and and we've, you know, intentionally create a lifestyle where we're, you know, we're five minutes from our local milk farm. We're we're six minutes from the local farm market. We know the farmers.
• 12:47
  We you know, we're going back to this, and this is you know, you mentioned the awakening that's happening in the double edged, or may say the silver lining of the COVID pandemic is that I think that what we're seeing is that people are starting to understand that there's a pattern, and the pattern is that these giant entities, right, whether it's big pharma, whether it's a military industrial complex, whether it's a government, the media industrial complex, that the bigger something gets in this world, typically, it means the more malicious and evil that entity becomes, unfortunately. Right? We're ruled by a corporatocracy. And so but what you see is that what I'm seeing is that the the you had this massive pushback of people saying, well, I'm gonna go back to hyper local. Right?
• 13:29
  I'm gonna go back to just going to my local farm market, to homeschooling my kids, to, you know, not going to the big big hospital, but finding a local alternative medicine or holistic, you know, practitioner instead. So it's an interesting side effect that they're trying to bring in more control, but what's happening is that people are saying, woah. Like, you know, the emperor's got no clothes on or the the curtain they they they they pulled the curtain back, and it's not a great Oz. It's some old man manipulating us through deception. And and it's like, oh, well, we can regain our sovereignty and our freedom.
• 14:04
  Actually, we just have to go take it. Right? It's it's it's a pretty it's a fascinating transition that we're going through.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: You know, I mentioned I when when I we did that interview yesterday, I asked Brian about, you know, buying local, and doing all those things that you just mentioned. And the answer is that yes, that supports local economy, better food. Since we live in the Northern Hemisphere, you tend to eat seasonal food, you know, as opposed to like flown in from South America somewhere. But there are caveats to that. I mean, for example, just because you're getting from a local farmer doesn't necessarily mean it's organic.
• 14:43
  I mean, you actually have to ask about that. You have to ask about how many vaccines are you giving the cows to bring them to market? Because there are over a hundred vaccines approved for cattle. There's more than 50 vaccines approved for fish, you know? And so you need to take the next step and not make the assumption that just because you're getting it at the local farmer's market, that they don't use glyphosate and, you know, they raise that.
• 15:11
  They take really good husbandry care of their soil. And then you can add, then the next other thing you can do is ask your local grocers. If shopping at a less large, either a non chain or a less large chain. I mean, here in Cleveland, a chain of grocery stores called Heinen's and they tend to have much better food. And I think there's, I don't know, maybe 10 or 12 of them.
• 15:36
  So it's not like a huge national chain. So those sorts of grocery stores are going to be more open to buying local and hearing from their customers of saying, I would really like to have this farmer over here's meat because it's really good. And you may want to go set up a relationship with him because maybe you can bring that into the store or these eggs by this chicken farmer. And then you can do the same thing with local restaurants. That's a non chain restaurant.
• 16:06
  It's just a local restaurant that's been set up. And tell that local restaurant about this great place where you found wonderful food and great eggs and this farmer market that they raise their own organic vegetables. Because then the business entrepreneur person who owns that restaurant can then use that even it's a beneficial thing for, to the farmer, but then they can also use that in their marketing to say, we use local produce, we use local things and we source our food. We know what's happening local, which for the consumer, everybody likes to hear that these days, that you're supporting local and you're buying local and you source your food and you know where it's coming from. So all of those things taken together can be beneficial to not only to your health, which is like the key thing, but to local economies and local farmers and things like that to keep them financially viable and and and keeps things moving forward in that direction.
• 17:09
  Seth Holehouse: Which I think is just is so important, because, you know, let's just say that they wanna, you know, bring in, you know, more lockdowns. Instead, just say the next round of lockdowns are much more serious and that they're even gonna get to a point where there's gonna be, you know, bread lines with vaccine passports required, right, which we've seen. I bet that I think that was there's a one that I think I think maybe Iran or one of Middle Eastern countries, you know, I think it was about two years ago that they had they had that happening, where they were doing they had bread lines because they had some issues with food, but they were requiring people to show their vaccine their vaccine passport to get access to the food. Right? And it's no secret.
• 17:45
  We I think it was Kissinger who talked about controlling the the the food energy. I think it was food energy and, I forget what what the third one was. Basically, how you can use that to control the populace. And so the fact that there's this pushback and that there's people building these local connections because that's what I'm thinking. It's like, okay.
• 18:02
  Well, if there's lockdowns or let's just say that, you know, you're in an area where your local grocery store, it's like, it gets very strict, so you have to wear a mask. Right? Well, a, I I I always refuse to anyway, and you could see how quickly, like, they would just back down. They'd like, oh, okay. I'm you know, they didn't know how to handle it.
• 18:19
  They'd say, we wear a mask, sir, but nope. And just keep walking, and and they don't know how to process that. Right? So they're not used to that. But what happens is that if they get really strict with that, say, okay.
• 18:28
  Well, you know what? I'm just going to my local farmer then. Right? Like, that's the I think it's the it's the solution to a lot, but there's there is one thing that you, you did mention, though, in terms of people seeing, you know, COVID, you know, really being a giant wake up call, and specifically the COVID vaccine being this massive wake up call to the true nature of the pharmaceutical industry and how there's a lot of people now they're saying, well, what about the other vaccines? It's almost like you go to a restaurant and say you find out that the steak dinner actually had cyanide injected into it.
• 19:00
  Right? You don't just say, hey. You don't sit just say, well, hey. Look. If you go to that restaurant, just don't eat that one big steak because it's got cyanide in it.
• 19:08
  Right? You say, look. Avoid the restaurant at all costs. Don't touch their appetizers. Right?
• 19:13
  So you're seeing the same thing happening of people like, well, that COVID vaccine's causing heart attacks and killing people. So, gosh, what about the statins that I'm on? What about the cholesterol medication I'm on? What about this? And so you're having this massive awakening and even things like I'm seeing SIDS, right, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome.
• 19:32
  I'm seeing that there's a lot of people coming out now, you know, nurses and people saying that, you know, something to the effect of, look, I've never seen a SIDS case of a sudden infant death that wasn't within two weeks of their vaccine schedule. And so it's I think that the the lies they've been telling us are now they're they're collapsing, and people are seeing through, and and once you kind of peel back a little bit, it's like pulling the thread on a sweater. The whole sweater starts unraveling.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And it's in all industries. I mean, it's in the tech industry, it's in the aeronautic industry. I mean, it's in a lot of things that people questioning. I would just cautious people to question, but not get paranoid, you know, because people once they because I've you know, come across people that they are so concerned about everything, food, their water, the air they breathe.
• 20:31
  I mean everything that it's like they have to seclude into a bubble and they go back to wearing a mask because they're so afraid of touching anything. I mean, it's like, you know, I really have always lived my life, Seth, that life is the eightytwenty rule. You know, if you really try to eat well, avoid toxic things, take the right supplements, take detoxification products, you know, do saunas, do some exercise and you know, all the different things that we just know are normally good things to do for our body. And if you do that really 80% of the time, that 20% of the time, if you want to have a tiramisu or you want to have an ice cream cone, just do it because you're way, way ahead of the curve. Your body is resilient.
• 21:17
  I mean, think about how resilient our bodies are. Think about the people that eat trash from the time they're two years old, and they live to be 80 years old. So how resilient is our body? And so if you're really doing your best to take care of things on a daily basis, Don't be too paranoid. It's like, wash your hands, but not obsessively.
• 21:41
  All of those things in moderation. Don't get to the point where you're like Howard Hughes and you're just so germaphobe about everything that you can't touch anything, you can't go anywhere. You're constantly, you go to somebody's house for dinner. Well, what did you put in that? It's like, live your life.
• 21:58
  If you do 80% of the time or 75% of the time in the right areas of health, then your body's gonna kind of compensate because we live in a toxic soup world. There's no way avoiding it. You can do what you can to use essential oils and homeopathy and all of those things, but it's not going to be a % pristine. You just can't. And so I think that people need to kind of get their head around that.
• 22:26
  That's okay. Know, don't push the envelope, but do as best you can. And if once in a while, like I said, you want to go out to dinner and have, you know, a couple of glasses of wine and a tiramisu and a really awful chocolate gooey cake dessert or something. Just do it. You're not eating it every night.
• 22:45
  You might have it once every three months. Enjoy your life without being too paranoid about it.
• 22:51
  Seth Holehouse: You know, and that's a really good point, because I know that when the pandemic first hit and all the vaccine stuff was coming out in spite of the, the shedding and the spike proteins, You know, even my wife and I, who at that point, we had our little you know, our first child that was maybe one, two years old. You know, she was born in '20, 2020. You know, even us were thinking, gosh, should we avoid public areas because of all the vaccine shedding? Should we and we became hermits, actually. We especially my wife because, you know, I was a person who still had go out and and and work and get groceries and, you know, so I got used to being out about, but she became very reclusive.
• 23:27
  And and, you know, because, I mean, for very real reasons, it's like we've got a one year old kid. We're not gonna you know, we don't wanna take her around someone that just had their sixth booster that's just dumping, you know, shooting off spike proteins like a Gatling gun. Right? So we were so concerned, but then we've also realized that we have to live our lives. And, you know, the other thing is is the chem trailing.
• 23:48
  Right? So we we now we live out in nature. Right? We're on seven acres in in a very rural area, and we've designed our life that way. We're surrounded by healthy forests and everything, but there's still the, you know, the chemtrail.
• 23:59
  Right? So do we not go outside because of that? Are are we just gonna sit in our homes and and just kinda wait for the world to end? Right? And then we've realized that, no, it's like we we have to have some kind of balance and, like, because that that gives them all the power.
• 24:14
  Right? If if they've if we're convinced that we can't even leave our homes, we can't join a community or build a community around us, and it's it's difficult because, you know, my my I'm like this. My wife's like this times 10. She's obsessive, and when she starts researching something, she's figured out so much, and she can't stop with that. Right?
• 24:35
  Which is why she's very aware of a lot of things that she's been telling me, you know, she told me ten years ago about this guy named John Podesta and this this weird art of these kids and, you know, stuff that I was like, that this is kind of Epstein, and, you know, this is new to me at that time. Right? But it's it's important though that we have to have that balance because otherwise, I feel like that they've they've they've succeeded in ripping apart our society so much that we're not even interacting with people that that we love and we care about because we're afraid of what, what's coming out of their body.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's really true. You know, there are some things, though, that I think that people need to pay closer attention to on a political basis. You know, where everything's a hot button now about this election, and I think a lot of people who are aware and are following this at all, are a bit on pins and needles about it. But it's a bigger issue than that, with what's going on at the UN and this pact for the future that they have pushed through and what they're planning to do on biometric identification. I have a friend right now who's actually in The Middle East on business and he said, everything here is going to biometrics.
• 25:47
  And if you are not being compliant, you're just not allowed. I mean, was an article I read yesterday that came out of a Kuwaiti official who was returning home to Kuwait. And this guy was, I don't know, he would be like the equivalent of a representative or a senator or something here, and was not willing to do the biometrics in terms of just a fingerprint. And he said, okay, I will do it if you promise that you're not storing these to the general public and later these will not be used against the people. The government refused and they wouldn't allow him into the country and set him back to where he came from.
• 26:26
  Now, is somebody that's very prominent in that country. And when I read that article, it was chilling to me because it was like, is this where we're going? And we've gone here so quickly. I mean, when they first started talking about fifteen minute cities, it seemed like some futuristic concept out ten years from now. And it's here.
• 26:49
  When they started talking about the real ID, and how they're going to use the real ID on your driver's license as the force and the implementation of what's happening with this UN pact. And people don't even realize it. It's just like back after nineeleven, when people would go to the airport and you'd have to put your hands up and do the scan. And people just do it. They don't think anything about it.
• 27:15
  And now when you go, they're like, well, stand right in front of here. We need to take a retinal scan of you. You don't have to do that. You can say I'm opting out and they go, okay. They just let you through.
• 27:25
  And now they actually even have a little card there that says that you have a right to say no, which they didn't for months. But I don't know how long that that will be. And people are just duty bound. If you're told what to do, you just do it. And that's very frightening for me about our country.
• 27:43
  You know, if you're just told what's, know, like, I heard rumor that California, that certain areas of California on November 1 are going to start reimplementing mask mandates. And how many people are going to say, okay, that's fine. I'll just put on my mask. We have become such a compliant society. Again, how do we get here?
• 28:02
  You get the government you deserve. Think about where we came from as a founding society. This country was founded on religious rebellion. You know, that they people left The UK and all those places because they weren't allowed to practice their religion. They like, well, screw you.
• 28:21
  I'm going to go somewhere where I can. And the same thing about guns and about property and about ownership. And we were going to stand up for what we believed in, our first amendment rights. And when I saw the video clip of Hillary Clinton in a separate clip from John Kerry saying, we really have to get rid of this first amendment stuff. It's really getting in the way of us governing and people trusting the government and this misinformation thing that people are doing because they're saying things that are not in agreement with the US government.
• 28:50
  If we lose our freedom of speech in this country, it's done. And it's done all over the world. It's the cornerstone of our freedoms. Always love one quote from Tucker Carlson he said years ago, when he said, I am such a strong believer in the first amendment. I don't agree with anything you said.
• 29:12
  And I think you're flat out wrong, but you have the right to say it, but I absolutely fight to the death for your right to be able to say that. And when there are problems like we had during COVID, we didn't need censorship. We needed more speech. We needed more people talking about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and zinc and vitamin D and all the different things that were available at the time, budesonide, all these things. We didn't need that as censorship.
• 29:40
  We needed more of that. And if they get to the point where they can rewrite our constitution and remove our first amendment, they've been chipping away at the second amendment for decades. They've eliminated the fourth amendment, the right to search and seizure. We always hear stories about people who've had their doors kicked in, or people have gone into their houses without arrest warrants and unfounded, and just sort of ransacked their house, shoot their dog, do things like that. This country's in trouble because we have, we've drifted towards the woke agendas and we have a very small subset of people in this country that are it's like the tail wagging the dog And we've let them get away with it.
• 30:27
  It's like, well, I don't want to offend anybody. And as long as I can do what I want to do, they can go do what they want to do. Well, that's been the systematic decline of our culture.
• 30:40
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, we all see it. Everything's getting more expensive. We're paying two, three, four times what things cost just a few years ago. And we know they're lying. 3% inflation, really?
• 30:52
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• 31:10
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• 31:28
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• 32:27
  I I couldn't agree more. And and especially, you know, for me, I grew up in the Midwest. I grew up in small town Ohio, and it was the epitome of that culture. I mean, everyone's kind and, and neighborly, which is great, but everyone be has has become very compliant, and I'm not sure how I escaped it. Like, I went to I I went to art school, so maybe that was part of it is that, you know, like, when everyone else was getting indoctrinated with social studies and stuff, I was in the art room, right, painting and sculpting and, you know, so I somehow kinda snuck out from from that.
• 33:01
  But, also, I think I've always been a really this rebellious, kid. I got you know, as a as a young I questioned everything. I questioned authority. I got in trouble for it, but I think it's it's made me who I am today. I'm not compliant, actually.
• 33:13
  I'm very noncompliant, and I'm proud of that, actually. But I I think that, you know, you you made a very simple point that's that's very important is that people can just opt out. Right? And and that's the thing is that I think that that's what what what I'm seeing, especially here in America. You know, we don't when this isn't communist China, we don't have a gun to the back of our heads saying, we're gonna hold you down and forcefully vaccinate you, or say you're, you know, you're a woman that's, you know, you're pregnant in China.
• 33:41
  You're at seven months with your third child, and they come take you away, and they give you a forced abortion. Like, that you know, they're not doing that here. It's it's much more insidious in many ways here because it's all about these complex psychological operations to they don't have to force the abortions here because we'll go do it voluntarily on our own because we're convinced that that's human rights. Right? Is to go kill our babies is all that's human rights.
• 34:03
  Right? It's it's it's it's how what a great how advanced our society is that a woman can have 30 abortions. It's like like, is where we're at. Like, this is how we're measuring. It's like, you know, you look back at these places like Sodom and Gomorrah and these, you know, or the the days of Noah before the flood, it's like, gosh, that that must have been really evil.
• 34:21
  When you look around, it's like, I kind of feel like we're back there again.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, you know, as in the days of Noah, you know, I have a podcast, it's called Happy Hour with Doctor. T, that we, on Tuesday nights, I interview pastors and Christian businessmen and women and Christian authors. And last year I had That was really, really good interviews. And so I A lot of Christian authors. And last year I was really stuck on the verse in the Bible of in Genesis of as in the days of Noah.
• 35:00
  And so the entire last year, the pastors and the different people that I interviewed on my show, the kind of the corner of the key, kind of the theme was, are we as in the days of Noah, when God came down and said, everything has been destroyed. And we think of those people as being very primitive. Well, the truth of the matter is they weren't primitive at all. And they were able to cross breed things and contaminate they would breed chickens and or they would breed pigs and dogs and have a new genetic thing, which is kind of what we're doing now with genetic modification and bioengineering of plants and foods and all the things that we're doing with vaccines. And we're creating new genomes and they're all contaminated.
• 35:48
  They're all contaminated. And God is going to come back and is he going to say, where are my remnant? Where are the faithful? Where are the pure people? Is there any faith down here?
• 36:03
  Where are we with this? And it's, that is a, because I do, happy hour with Doctor. T on Tuesday night. And then on, Thursday night, we do a whole series, usually our authors that have a book will take their book and they'll break it down into a four part educational program. And we air those on Thursday nights.
• 36:26
  And we also air both of those now in hisglory. Me. It's got a broader audience of where people are. But when we drill down on that, it's very disconcerting to me because I've been doing this now since June of twenty twenty. That is God, we think of God as loving and kind and forgiving and generous, which he is, but he's also a judgmental God.
• 36:53
  He's a jealous God and he doesn't like to see what's happening here and how long will we test his patients? And now all of this Satan worship and Baphomet symbols on everything and the whole thing about pedophilia that's all coming out and Adentachrome. I mean, used to talk about things like pedophilia and Adentachrome and Satan worship kind of in hushed voices and only like one on one to first people that you were pretty sure were on the same page as you. Now it's like on your show and everywhere. We just talk about it because it's become so to light about how evil and what we're doing.
• 37:35
  We know that the US government is one of the biggest purveyors of children, human trafficking of any organization in the world. I mean, the people down at the border are seeing people just escort these kids right across and put them in a bus and take them away somewhere to be sold for either sex or for the agenachrome and things like that. How long is God going to bless this country and protect it when we are doing these things to his children? Who said, if anybody causes one of these little ones to stumble, it's better for you to have a millstone, huge, heavy 60 pound rock tied around your neck and thrown into the ocean than, what will happen to you for what you're doing to these kids. And so, you know, and we see the turmoil of this election coming up, I got a meme yesterday that somebody sent me that said, can't vote democratic and pro abortion, pro abortion, pro transgender movement, pro utilization of kids, and then go to church on Sunday and sing and say, praise the Lord.
• 38:41
  You can't do that. You can't vote for people that support that and claim that you are a Christian and that you support what God says in his word. And so how long is God going to tarry? I don't know. I mean, I don't know the mind of God or the heart of God, but Jesus said in Matthew, when they asked him, when will the end come?
• 39:02
  And he said, neither I nor my father know, only the father knows. I don't even know, but you will know by the signs. I mean, how many more signs do we need? How many
• 39:12
  Seth Holehouse: more signs do we Oh, I know. It's interesting because, so I'm actually writing a book right now called Prep Like Noah, and it's about preparedness. Right? So it's it's it's kind of like a preparedness one zero one, and I'm I'm gonna give it away for free because I I I'm doing it just because I wanna educate people and make sure that we're all prepared because, you know and it's I I pull a lot of references to Noah, and I've been studying Noah, even more, in kind of the the days of Noah, and understanding because if you look around our world right now, you can see it. Like, it's very it's very easy now.
• 39:46
  Like, the world, in a lot of ways, I'd say that there's no less evil here now than there was, say, ten years ago. The difference is that now we see it all. And so it feels very evil, but it's just because it's no longer hidden behind closed doors. It's it's now being, you know, talked about by, you know, a a ditty lawyer, right, that's out talking about you know, so let's get you going against him saying, look. We've we've we're having whistleblowers coming out.
• 40:10
  They're saying that, you know, there's there's child sacrifice. You know, there's lots of really bad stuff coming out. And so but if you look at the time of you know, Noah's time, which I really believe that that was the time when, you know, we had the fallen angels, and we had mixed blood with the Nephilim. We had, you know, genetic modification. There were, you know, half humans, half who knows what else going on.
• 40:31
  There's all kinds of this crazy evil that was happening. At that time, it literally took God sending a flood to wipe out everything. Right? And so, you know, one of the points I make in the book is it's like, look around us right now. Like, it took a flood wiping out everything except for a very small portion of the population that God had chosen to help rebuild after that in in a world that was clean and purified.
• 40:58
  And it's like, look around our society, do we think it's gonna be easy? Do you think that it's gonna be something like, you know, like the pharaoh where, you know, the the firstborn sons are killed by this mysterious thing, and you wake up and you're like, oh, wow. I'm still fine. It's like, I I think that this is why I'm kinda tying it into preparedness because I really believe that there's something that's coming. Right?
• 41:19
  There's some sort of significant event that I I do believe that is at the hand of God, that that will wipe out a lot of the evil. But if you look and you see what is evil, it's like, well, evil's co opted big pharma, big government, big tech, the big education. It's like so much of so many of the the structures that are foundational structures in our society have become evil. So what happens when those things get wiped out? I mean, it's it's a big shift, which I really I really believe that we're on the precipice of a very significant, shift happening in the human world.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: You know, another thing about that, I'm glad you're writing that book. I'm sure it's gonna be fascinating. But, you know, it took Noah almost a hundred years to build that boat. And so it didn't happen overnight.
• 42:13
  Seth Holehouse: That's true.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It didn't happen like one day he walked out in his backyard and he said, think I'm gonna build a boat. God told me to build a boat. Okay, we'll have that done by this weekend. And so there was all of these years that not one person that we know of went to Noah and said, what are you doing? Why are you doing this?
• 42:36
  I mean, cause they'd never heard of rain at that point in time. There was no such thing. And maybe I should listen to what he had. There was none of that. And so God was very patient and long suffering during that almost a hundred years that it took him to build the ark.
• 42:52
  The same thing can happen with the decline of the Roman empire. You know, when I was in college, I had almost a minor in Roman history because I loved world history and all of my humanitarian classes that I had to take, the liberal arts classes were all in Roman history. And the decline of the Roman empire was somewhere, it was over somewhere between fifty and seventy five years. I mean, when we think about these periods of time, we think that one day everything was just perfect and the next day things were decimated, But it just was this gradual decline. And I actually one of the final courses that I took was at the art museum, and it was called Rome the Eternal City.
• 43:40
  We didn't have a midterm, you had to write a paper. And what I did was I wrote a paper that I took the textbook that we were using for the course, and I just went through and did the headlines of what was happening in the decline of the Roman Empire. And I declared, I compared it to the headlines of the daily newspaper that for, and did that for about three weeks. And this was in 1991, that I took this course. So, you think about that, that was what, forty years ago or thirty years ago.
• 44:15
  And so how much more are we declining like that until when the Visigoths came in from the North, the Germanic tribes came in and they had so weakened and softened. There wasn't the Roman empire and the Roman guards and the centurions that had conquered the world. They'd all gotten soft in their underbelly. There was more crime on the streets than there was security. You couldn't go out at night.
• 44:39
  There was more people on the public dole than there were people working and paying taxes. There there was, just no food security and all these things. And you look at that, it's like totally describing what we're seeing in America today.
• 44:55
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• 45:54
  Speaker 2: And it was this undermining. And you think about the openness of our borders and how many millions of people we had we don't even know a number that are that have infiltrated into our country already here, just ready for a phone call to spring into action. And decline of America has been going on for a long time. And what makes America great are the people that are here, that really truly still believe in God that want to do with the best that they can for their families. They want to take care of their neighbors.
• 46:30
  Best rules that we could possibly have are the 10 commandments. Honor thy father and thy mother, don't steal, don't kill, don't murder, don't commit adultery. I mean, kind of like basic societal norms that would keep your society in a good sort of way. But we're in a definite state of decline. And I've read so many books and interviewed so many authors in the last couple years about where we are.
• 46:56
  And that's very, very frightening to me. And I think that it means so much that people, you know, all the stuff that we do prepping and food and water, and, you know, all these different things is really important on the physical basis, but we're fighting a spiritual battle. And it's more important to know where you're gonna go after you die and your relationship with God and your relationship with Jesus than it is to have food in the refrigerator. Know, couldn't agree with that. You got food over here, but you know, I saw a little TikTok video a couple of weeks ago, Seth.
• 47:30
  It was this gal from Australia. This really spoke to my heart. I saved that video, which I don't usually do. And I'm going to paraphrase it. I actually even wrote a substack about it.
• 47:41
  My substack is dr10penny.substack.com or tenpennywalkwithgod.substack.com. 1 comes out on Saturday and one comes out on Sunday. The Saturday one is more medical and related to very medical topics. The one on Sunday is my dedication to the Lord. And she did this little video that was just so, you know, she said, you know, a hundred years from now, we're all going to be dead.
• 48:09
  Everybody you know is going to be dead. And so in 2124, everybody's going to be dead. Then in another fifty years beyond that, nobody's going to remember who you are. How many know their grandfather's grandfather? If you've done genealogy, you may know a name, but you may not know much else.
• 48:31
  And yet the house that you live in, somebody else is living in it. The car that you're driving may by that time been sold for scrap. All of your possessions and things that you've gathered together have either been given away, sold or thrown in the trash. And so, the point of the thing was saying that our lives are pretty temporal and the stuff that we have doesn't really mean much. And no matter how prominent we are in our world, like where you are with man in America and hundreds of thousands of people know who you are or know who I am, in a hundred years, is anybody going know and anybody going to care?
• 49:11
  But what's really going to matter is where we spend eternity. And I think that that's one of the most important messages we can leave people with these days.
• 49:20
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, I I couldn't agree more. And it's interesting because in the book, after the introduction, the first main section is called Get Right With God, And it's about, like, we can get, you know, we can focus on having all the food and and all the guns and everything. But I make the point, it's like, if that was what it took, then we would have no chance because the elites have got underground bunkers. They've got private security, private helicopters, probably hundred year food supplies. Like, if that was what it took, then we're we're we're kinda screwed.
• 49:50
  Right? But it's actually I think I really do believe, though, it is a a a spiritual battle. That's that that's that's what we're fighting, and that's how we have to position ourselves. And and, yeah, it's like I I couldn't agree more as well with, you know, we come with nothing, and we leave with nothing. Actually, the only thing I think that we that we leave with is is the marks on our soul.
• 50:11
  Right? Is the the the you know, it's it's something like you you go to school, and you finish, and you have a grade card. It's like, okay. How did you score? And that's how I look at it.
• 50:19
  Like, that's what I leave with. Right? So when I'm when I'm at the pearly gates, and, you know, God's looking down and reviewing my report card, it's like, oh, okay. Actually, you you you sacrificed for your family. You sacrificed for your country.
• 50:30
  You you told the truth. Right? You didn't accept money to do evil things. It's like, oh, okay. Great.
• 50:36
  Like, this is I think that that's the most important. Is that that's why I do what I do. Like, that's that's literally why, you know, I'm I'm doing this show is because I I believe that this is a spiritual battle. I think that the one of the main vectors of the battle is information warfare, which is why people like yourself and and your show and your podcast and your speaking engagements are all absolutely critical, especially when we live in a world that doesn't know how evil it's become. Right?
• 51:03
  And that's the thing is that it it has been so gradual, and and that's if you look at cultural Marxism, it's all about the gradual erosion. Right? And, actually, you know, one of the speeches that I is my favorite speech to give. It's I call it the step by step speech, which I I you know, it's about the like, how did we go from Mozart to Madonna? How do we go from Little House on the Prairie to keeping up with the Kardashians?
• 51:25
  How do we go from, you know, a doctor saying do no harm to forced, you know, vaccinations? Right? It's it happens gradually. It happens with those those subtle steps, like a like a, you know, a a, you know, boiling water with a frog in it. And and that's the thing is that's what I think their technique has been, especially with the Americans.
• 51:44
  It it's been this slow, gradual grinding down of our morality where, you know, we we actually don't know what the morals used to be. It's like, okay. We you're talking about going back to 1776 and and going back to the founding. What's that mean? Right?
• 52:00
  Like, what does it mean to go back to that? Is it, you know, horse and cart and, you know, we fight with a musket and a pitchfork, or is it about, like, the the morality of people at that time, and and how proper they were, and how truthful, and and how they would sacrifice for their family and their country? I think that that's what we're we're going through. But the good thing is that there's been a mass movement of people that are all trying to get back to that. They're trying to be introspective and figure out how do we get here, and how do we go back to where we where we need to be.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Again, I think that's the silver lining of COVID, that people that it kind of it kind of backfired on them. I mean, when this whole COVID thing started, the WEF was like, Oh, you will owe nothing and you will be happy. And I think that they were the people. I love what Bobby Kennedy says about the WEF, is that it's the billionaire boys club, you know, and that people just get together and they were, you know, when you looked at their original, very fancy, highly integrated, website, when you really analyze that there was no, there was no plan B in there. This is what's going to happen once we smash the world and we get everybody to be compliant with masks and shots and do everything that we said.
• 53:16
  This is where we're going, which is sort of like the pack for the future and the different organizations of the United Nations of where they're saying, this is what we want the world that we want to be. It's like, well, who the heck is we? Nobody elected you people. You're all appointed officials. The presidents of countries don't even show up at these meetings very often, unless they're actually being a speaker.
• 53:41
  They appoint an ambassador who's a buddy of theirs to go and kind of represent things. But they have no accountability to We the People in any country. And yet their first sentence of their for the future document says, We the people and that are trying to organize this for the future. You know, it says, we the heads of states and government representing the peoples of the world. Well, you don't represent me.
• 54:17
  You don't represent, you know, most of the people that have any idea about what you're doing. You're just up there plotting and planning for something that nobody wants. Nobody wants to live in a fifteen minute city. Nobody wants to have to get a mandatory vaccination show, your vaccine card to get on an airplane and fly to Germany. Nobody wants to, wear their masks to go in and have dinner.
• 54:40
  Nobody wants any of that, But they just were so sure that they were going to put everybody in place. And honestly, I think that they were not prepared. They had no, they're so disconnected. They had no connection with the strength of the human spirit and the belief in freedom and Liberty and God, that so many people had. I don't think that they were prepared for the level of blowback that humanity has given them.
• 55:11
  It started as a little trickle at first, but it's gotten bigger and bigger and bigger. The people are saying, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, that ain't going to happen. I'm not going to put on a mask. I'm not going to get a mandatory experimental shot.
• 55:25
  I'm not going to eat bugs and crickets. I'm not going to do any of these things, which I think is the mounting, hopefully the mounting spirit of what we're gonna see after this election.
• 55:37
  Seth Holehouse: I I couldn't agree more. You mentioned earlier the awakening of a sleeping giant. I think that's what's happening, and I think that the greatest tool in their book has been has been diluting us and convincing us that we don't have any power when actually Right. The we we have massive power individually and especially as a collective, as we stand up. Yep.
• 55:58
  So, I'm gonna pull up your website one more time just to so folks so this is your, Substack, dr10penny.substack.com. See, we've also got this is If
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: you go up to the if you go to the top the top of the tab of that, where it says podcasts
• 56:14
  Seth Holehouse: Yes.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: At the top of the page, And you click on that. This is like we have organized it to where all the podcasts that I've done, my Tuesday morning coffee, my happy hour, my on your health that I do every is all there. People can go back and just sort of skim through that all in one place. It's not spattered all over the page. So that's the eye on the evidence Substack that you can the URL is dr10penny.substack.com.
• 56:40
  Seth Holehouse: Perfect. Okay. And then also this your your main website is just dr10penny.com, where you've got your your podcast, you've got, memberships, you've got education, news, detox information, everything. You know, folks can join your email. They can, you know, get your social media here.
• 56:55
  I mean, it's very, very organized. So so do you have do you have any final closing thoughts as we're wrapping up?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: When you go to dr10penny.com, please sign up for our email list and spend a little bit of time there navigating over the tabs because that website is loaded with information. There's a lot of free information. There's products that we sell. There's links to, like, then that's my new book that I just finished. That's book one, I'm Walking With God.
• 57:27
  And then book two is coming out right before Christmas. There's a third book that I've been working my way through that's going to come out after the first of the year about our government and how the government has completely thrown us underneath the bus. And so there's a lot there. There's a lot to read and a lot of free stuff. People are like, well, you charge for your membership.
• 57:48
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• 58:16
  You can also prevent things. That's one thing we didn't get to talk about was the fact that people that have had COVID even three years ago and recovered and really don't have any symptoms really are at increased risk of heart attack and strokes. So if you can take the right supplements and detox, if you can come to get ECP therapy in our two centers, one is in Cleveland and the other one is in Ventura, California, and get a passive exercise treatment that kind of flushes out your arteries and stimulates and strengthens your heart, Prevention is the key detoxification and prevention is the key to the future of your health.
• 58:55
  Seth Holehouse: Great points. Well, Sherry, it's been wonderful speaking with you. Always enjoy our conversations, and I look forward to next time. So, thank you so much for giving us your time.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Seth. It's been a pleasure, and I look forward to coming back.
• 59:08
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. Think hopefully I'll be coming on your show soon as well, which will be wonderful.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. That'll be good.
• 59:13
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