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Bonus Episode: Just A Cook, Napkin Hats, and Big Country · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to Disgraceland, which is brought to you
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Speaker 1: by Double Elvis. This week we have our Anthony Bourdain
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Speaker 1: story that's in the Disgraceland feed. This is part of
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Speaker 1: our Icon series. You're gonna be getting these episodes sprinkled
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Speaker 1: in with the normal episodes on musicians. You're gonna be
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Speaker 1: getting these other episodes on artists from other walks of life,
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Speaker 1: the art world, writing, Hollywood, sports, etc. We kick this off,
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Speaker 1: like I said, with the Anthony bourdaines story, which I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty stoked on. I think you guys are going to
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Speaker 1: be into it. Check it out if you haven't heard it,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking about it more in this
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Speaker 1: bonus episode. Also, real quick for the parents out there,
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into this, hey, discos, need a
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Speaker 1: podcast that comes after the podcast Welcome to Disgrace The
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Speaker 1: after Partie Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little
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Speaker 1: the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about our
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Speaker 1: new Anthony bourdein episode of Disgraceland that is in your
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Speaker 1: are also talking about the sources that went into the
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Speaker 1: creation of our Boardeine episode, giving you guys a quick
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Speaker 1: update on the upcoming subjects and Disgraceland, how we're going
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Speaker 1: to be choosing them together, and of course your voicemails, texts,
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Speaker 1: dms and more, and as always, a whole lot of Rosie.
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Speaker 1: All right, discos, let's get into it, all right. Anthony
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Speaker 1: Bourdain on the brain this week, understandably thinking a lot
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Speaker 1: about him, thinking a lot about the episode, thinking a
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Speaker 1: lot about the themes in this episode, thinking about that
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Speaker 1: when someone dies, the sense of loss that we have,
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Speaker 1: it's subjective obviously to the relationship that we have or
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Speaker 1: had with that person. And in the case of Anthony Bourdain,
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Speaker 1: most of us had some sort of distant, you know,
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Speaker 1: creator slash fan type of relationship with the guy. Most
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Speaker 1: of us didn't know him. I know some of you did.
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Speaker 1: I did not know him. I have a couple of
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Speaker 1: friends who met him a few times, one who knew
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Speaker 1: him a little better than others. But I didn't know
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Speaker 1: the guy at all. But we felt like we knew him. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's clear. Obviously, he gave so much of himself to
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Speaker 1: his art, to his writing, to the television that he
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Speaker 1: made so in writing and researching this episode, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about, obviously, at the beginning of this process,
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Speaker 1: how we lost Anthony Bourdain. But by the end, I
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Speaker 1: was thinking about a different kind of loss. I was
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Speaker 1: thinking about what happens when you lose yourself. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: the piece of the Anthony Bourdain episode that most struck
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Speaker 1: me by the time I got done researching it, and
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Speaker 1: by the time obviously I got done writing it. You
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Speaker 1: can hear it in the episode. But here's this guy
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Speaker 1: who built this tremendous identity for lack of a better word,
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Speaker 1: identity is something we all talk about a lot these days.
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Speaker 1: It permeates our culture, this idea of who we are,
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Speaker 1: what we represent, who we align ourselves with, how we
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Speaker 1: present ourselves, especially in this postmodern era of social media,
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Speaker 1: and identity is just so part of everything in our
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Speaker 1: culture right now. And Anthony Bourdain created this tremendous identity
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Speaker 1: and then he lost it suddenly or he subverted it,
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Speaker 1: I guess is the better way to put it, almost entirely,
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Speaker 1: and then he lost his life in the process. Life
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Speaker 1: as we know is fragile. Okay, most of us are
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Speaker 1: old enough and experienced enough, unfortunately to understand this. But
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Speaker 1: this loss that Anthony Bourdain underwent, it got me thinking
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Speaker 1: about other artists and what it must be like to
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Speaker 1: be under this intense spotlight when you're a name, when
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Speaker 1: you have a name, excuse me, and you have this
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Speaker 1: personality that is recognized all over the world. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's an identity that is forged and that you you
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Speaker 1: forge yourself and that you solidify and then it's ripped away.
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Speaker 1: And we've seen this before in pop stardom, and we're
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Speaker 1: going to see it again. Frankly, It's just it's just
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Speaker 1: part of the game, you know. At the moment at
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Speaker 1: Double Elvis, we're working on a Bob Dylan episode for
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Speaker 1: you guys, and it gets into this subject. Coincidentally, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't planned, you know, we weren't trying to like team
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Speaker 1: this Dylan episode with the Bourdaine episode. But this, this
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Speaker 1: concept of identity, this theme of identity, is very much
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Speaker 1: part of the Bob Dylan story. You know, Dylan, as
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Speaker 1: most of us know, became larger than life, this huge personality.
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Speaker 1: In the nineteen sixties. He was literally thought of as
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Speaker 1: a god to some of his fans, which is fucking nuts.
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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine that? You know, I think
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Speaker 1: the closest thing we have to that now is Taylor
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Speaker 1: Swift for some reason that you know, I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: I tried to understand it. We've talked about that. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to digress. I don't want to shit on
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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift either. That's not what I'm trying to do.
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Speaker 1: I have a tremendous amount of respect for what she does.
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Speaker 1: But you know, if I'm being honest, the cult of
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Speaker 1: personality that has sprung up around her, it's beyond me.
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Speaker 1: I don't get it, you know. I guess the last
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Speaker 1: the last time I recognize something like this in pop
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Speaker 1: culture was Kurt Cobaine when when when he came about
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Speaker 1: and there was very clearly a direct line back from
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Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain to Bob Dylan. I can see that then,
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Speaker 1: I can see it now. And Kurt obviously struggled with
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Speaker 1: those with that pressure. Can you imagine can you imagine
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Speaker 1: that pressure back to the Dylan thing, to people thinking
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Speaker 1: you're an actual god and you're just some fucking songwriter
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Speaker 1: or man, you know, or Anti Bourdain's case, you're just
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Speaker 1: you're just a cook. Really, you're not even really a chef.
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Speaker 1: You're a cook, you know, and you're a writer, and
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Speaker 1: you develop this audience and you become this thing. It's uh,
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Speaker 1: that pressure is is it never never fails to surprise me.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: John Lennon, we talked about John Lennon before. John Lennon
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Speaker 1: struggled with his identity over and over again throughout his
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Speaker 1: career and in the end, you know, his turn towards
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Speaker 1: domesticity and materialism. It's in part what compelled Mark David
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Speaker 1: Chapman to kill him. Jerry Garcia, Kirk Kobe and who
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Speaker 1: I mentioned. Their identity is the concept of who they
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Speaker 1: were and what they meant to people, to their fans.
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Speaker 1: It forced those guys deeper into addiction and ultimately into
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Speaker 1: their demise. This you know, this wasn't what did Bordain in.
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Speaker 1: You know, ultimately it wasn't. It wasn't just addiction that
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Speaker 1: was part of it. Yes, his addiction played a part
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Speaker 1: of it, Yes, but ultimately what happened to Boordain is
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Speaker 1: he went in all in, I should say, on the
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Speaker 1: wrong time of thing, the wrong kind of romance, and
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Speaker 1: he lost himself in the process. That loss is hard
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Speaker 1: for me to understand. Waking up one day and you're
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Speaker 1: just a different person. You're behaving like a different person,
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Speaker 1: you're acting like a different person. You're a different person
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Speaker 1: to your friends, you're a different person to your family.
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Speaker 1: All that matters is the audience of one who you
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Speaker 1: are presenting yourself to. And it's just it's hard for
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Speaker 1: me to understand. And therefore it became a very compelling
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Speaker 1: thing to research and to write about, and I hope
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Speaker 1: it came across in the end of the episode. We
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Speaker 1: get a lot of great feedback, tremendous amount of great
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Speaker 1: feedback on the new episode on Anthony Bourdin. I encourage you, guys,
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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard it, to check it out. You
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Speaker 1: might be thinking, you know why you guys talking about
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Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain. He's not a musician, And well, I can
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Speaker 1: tell you Anthony Bourdin was one of the most rock
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Speaker 1: and roll figures that I've ever come across. And there's
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Speaker 1: so much music in this episode. Okay, everyone from Stone
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Speaker 1: Roses to question Mark and the Mysterians, to the Grateful Dead,
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Speaker 1: to the Chambers Brothers to Iggy Pop to Queens of
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Speaker 1: the Stone Age. So many great artists are in this
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Speaker 1: episode and constitute the makeup of of who Anthony Boardaine
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Speaker 1: was and what his story was. And you're going to
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Speaker 1: find this that if you haven't heard this, it's pretty
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Speaker 1: damn rock and roll. And when you do listen to it,
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Speaker 1: I want you to hit me up at Disgrace Lam
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Speaker 1: pod on the Social six one seven nine. I was
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight voicemail and text and let
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Speaker 1: me know what you think. All right, Gonna take a
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Speaker 1: quick break back in a flash talk about some of
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Speaker 1: the sources, some of the books that I read, in
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Speaker 1: some of the films and television that I watched in
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Speaker 1: researching and writing the Anthony Bourdain episode. And I want
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Speaker 1: to know if you guys have consumed some of this
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Speaker 1: stuff as well back in the flash. All right, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that the books that I read, and the documentaries
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Speaker 1: that I watched, the television I watched, the films I watched,
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that you guys have read or seen most
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Speaker 1: of these as they pertain to Anthony Bourdain. And you
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Speaker 1: know that made the research for this episode both fun
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Speaker 1: and challenging. Fun from the sense of we're all coming
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Speaker 1: at this from a place of general understanding, general excitement.
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Speaker 1: You guys know a lot of these stories. You know,
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Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain was a great communicator, a great writer. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you guys. I'm sure you guys when you heard I
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Speaker 1: was doing the Anthony Bourdain episode, there were a couple
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Speaker 1: anecdotes that went off in your head where you were like,
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Speaker 1: I hope it talks about this. You know. Maybe it
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Speaker 1: was the bride over the barrel scene if you're a
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Speaker 1: particularly perverted bastard. But I digress. Anyways, this sort of,
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Speaker 1: you know, well established base of knowledge for Anthony Bourdain
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Speaker 1: made it challenging to try and find anecdotes to express
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Speaker 1: Dane's story that felt fresh and that felt new. Not
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Speaker 1: to mention the fact that the guy has an incredible voice.
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Speaker 1: This is the first time I've done an episode I
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Speaker 1: think first time I've done an episode on a on
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Speaker 1: a writer, and that really put me in a box
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Speaker 1: and it was like, Okay, how are you gonna how
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Speaker 1: are you gonna do this? How are you gonna express
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Speaker 1: this in a way that is unique, that feels fresh.
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Speaker 1: How are you going to say something that he hasn't
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Speaker 1: already said about himself? How are you going to say
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Speaker 1: something about Anthony Bourdin that Anthony Bourdain hasn't already said
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Speaker 1: about himself. You know, he has those incredible autobiographical books
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Speaker 1: Kitchen Confidential and Medium Raw. His whole thing was this
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Speaker 1: subjective journalism where he's constantly putting himself in this situation.
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Speaker 1: And frankly, that's what I do from a from a
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Speaker 1: detached point of view, is is I put these characters
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Speaker 1: in these situations that they've already described or someone has
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Speaker 1: already described to us that I find in the research,
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Speaker 1: and it just made it hard to do, very hard
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Speaker 1: to do when it was Boordain had such an established
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Speaker 1: voice and aesthetic doing it, So my solution was to
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Speaker 1: just lean into it. And you can hear me in
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Speaker 1: this episode trying to speak almost as Anthony Bourdain would
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Speaker 1: speak in his monologues, and we specifically fucked with the
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Speaker 1: sound design in the score to make it seem almost
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Speaker 1: like we were doing like a cover version of a
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Speaker 1: No Reservations episode at times, to really kind of put
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Speaker 1: you in like im im, I am speaking in his
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Speaker 1: voice at the beginning of each block. And that came
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Speaker 1: from the research. And you read so much, it's like
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Speaker 1: if you're a guitar player and you're constantly playing a
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Speaker 1: cdc Risks, You're gonna play guitar like Malcolm Young. You
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Speaker 1: just are. You know, when you're constantly reading Anthony Bourdain
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Speaker 1: and then you go to write about him, you're that's
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Speaker 1: gonna have an effect. And rather than try to just
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Speaker 1: like you know, push that to the side, I decided
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Speaker 1: to kind of lean into it. And you can hear that.
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Speaker 1: And that again came from the research, specifically Kitchen Confidential,
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Speaker 1: which i'd already read twice before I read it a
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Speaker 1: third time. And then I went to read his next book,
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Speaker 1: which i'd never read, Medium Raw, and that had this
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Speaker 1: a bunch of great anecdotes in it, one of which
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Speaker 1: is this anecdote that I didn't do because it's already
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Speaker 1: been done. There's a scene in the beginning of Medium Raw.
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Speaker 1: This has been done twice, once in Succession and once
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Speaker 1: in Billions, the television shows, And it's the scene in
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Speaker 1: the beginning of Medium Raw where Anthony Bourdin is invited
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Speaker 1: to this super exclusive dinner with a bunch of world
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Speaker 1: class chefs and they're all seated at a table and
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Speaker 1: I forget what the dishes. If you guys are chefs
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Speaker 1: out there, forgive me for not knowing the name of this.
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Speaker 1: But it's basically this like super indulgent bird and it's like,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's a tiny bird, and I can't remember
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Speaker 1: what makes it indulgent, but the idea is you're indulging
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Speaker 1: so much that you should feel shame, so you place
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Speaker 1: a napkin over your head when you eat this, this
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Speaker 1: this appetizer, you know if you will. And it's the
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Speaker 1: way he sets it up is incredible, so incredible that,
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Speaker 1: like I said, it's been covered twice before. I don't
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Speaker 1: I've never I've never read specifically that the creator, the director,
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Speaker 1: or the writers of Succession or Billions took this bit
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Speaker 1: from Medium Raw for their television shows. But it just
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Speaker 1: it's too close to the bone forgive the pun to
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Speaker 1: not be directly derived. So if anyone knows anything about this,
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Speaker 1: if you know the scenes I'm talking about in Succession,
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Speaker 1: it's where the it's where Greg and Tom takes Greg
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Speaker 1: out to dinner for the first time. It's this hysterical
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Speaker 1: scene and they do this thing where they put the
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Speaker 1: napkin over the head and then they you know, they
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Speaker 1: eat the bird. But Billions did it first back when
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Speaker 1: I used to watch Billions the first few seasons, and
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Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact scene. I can't set it
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Speaker 1: up for you. But if you guys know if that
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Speaker 1: came from somewhere else in those TV shows, let me know.
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Speaker 1: But I'm pretty pretty confident it came from that Bordein
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Speaker 1: book Medium Raw, which is also interest because I don't
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Speaker 1: know if I said this already, but Medium Raw comes
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Speaker 1: after Anthony Bourdin has success and becomes famous, which you know,
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Speaker 1: alters his point of view significantly, and it's tremendous. It's
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Speaker 1: just great. The other two books I read were the
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Speaker 1: Charles Leerson Down and Out in Paradise, which is an
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Speaker 1: unauthorized biography, and for an unauthorized biography, he gets some
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Speaker 1: pretty good access and this book I highly recommend it,
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Speaker 1: but I'm also gonna recommend it with a caveat because
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Speaker 1: there's a lot in this book that annoys the shit
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Speaker 1: out of me. And I'll get to the annoying part
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Speaker 1: first and then I'll get to the great part second.
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Speaker 1: The annoying part is, I don't know, man, I feel
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Speaker 1: like the writer just takes these unnecessary potshots at Bourdein
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Speaker 1: in a judgy way, not in a and look, you
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Speaker 1: know I do this all the time, so I'm guilty
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Speaker 1: of the same thing, you know. But something about it
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Speaker 1: just rubbed me the wrong way. In this book, However,
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Speaker 1: when the book starts, the first few pages, the first
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Speaker 1: two or three pages are so fucking compelling and written
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Speaker 1: so well, and it is such a cheeky headfake that
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Speaker 1: I was reeling after I read it, and I was
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Speaker 1: pissed that I didn't think to do this. Pissed, I
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Speaker 1: almost wrote the guy a letter telling him how much
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Speaker 1: I liked it. I didn't, though, so I guess this
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Speaker 1: is the letter Charles Learson, Down and Out in Paradise,
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Speaker 1: great way to open a book. The other book I
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Speaker 1: read was Bordained, The Definitive Oral biography by Laurie will Lever,
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Speaker 1: which forgive me from pronouncing her name incorrectly, but Laurie
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Speaker 1: was she worked very closely with Anthony Bourdain and she
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Speaker 1: put this book together which is an oral history of
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Speaker 1: Tony from the guys and girls who knew him and
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Speaker 1: came up with him and worked with him both and
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Speaker 1: knew him both before success and after success. And it's
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Speaker 1: really fascinating, particularly the folks who don't hold back, David Chang,
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Speaker 1: Josh Hammie, There's a lot of a lot of people
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Speaker 1: in here who you know, the loss of of Tony
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Speaker 1: is raw, and they all have a different perspective on it,
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Speaker 1: and it really helped form my point of view along
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Speaker 1: with my own my own history with loss, particularly with
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Speaker 1: suicide from people I know, people I love, friends, family,
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Speaker 1: et cetera. I found this book to be touching in
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Speaker 1: a in a number of different ways, and if you're
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Speaker 1: a fan of Anthony Bordaina, highly recommend it. TV shows obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, No Reservations and then Parts Unknown, of course
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Speaker 1: I've watched every episode of every single one, the Iggy
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Speaker 1: Pop one from the CNN. Parts Unknown obviously had had
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Speaker 1: a big hand in framing this episode road Runner is
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Speaker 1: just a tremendous documentary, which you know most of you
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Speaker 1: have seen that. I'm sure. I just wanted to give
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Speaker 1: a particular shout out to the last episode of of
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Speaker 1: Parts Unknown that the zero point zero folks put together
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Speaker 1: after Anthony Bourdin had died. It is tremendous and it's
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Speaker 1: one of those things that where obviously this episode wouldn't
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Speaker 1: exist the way it exists had Anthony Bourdeen not died.
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Speaker 1: But my goodness, what they put together, the editing, the
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Speaker 1: sound design in particular, it's just incredible. It's all about
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Speaker 1: Lower East Side Manhattan, and you can really feel it.
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Speaker 1: You can really feel that neighborhood in that episode, both
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Speaker 1: that neighborhood's past present as well. It's a stunning piece
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Speaker 1: of television. And of course I talked about New Roe's Hotel,
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Speaker 1: the Aggie Argento film with Willem the Foe and Christopher
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Speaker 1: Walking last week. I believe in the last episode of
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Speaker 1: After Party, watched the watch that a number of times.
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Speaker 1: It's just sort of just sort of had it on
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Speaker 1: the background without even listening to it when I was
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Speaker 1: writing and researching. You can check that out, all right.
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Speaker 1: So those are the sources. I'll talk more about this
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Speaker 1: stuff on inta gram and elsewhere. If you guys have
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Speaker 1: other Anthony Bourdain resources, movies, films, television.
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Speaker 3: What have you?
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Speaker 1: One thing you know and one thing I knew but
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Speaker 1: forgot about and then and then found out again? Was it?
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Speaker 1: Boordeen was a consultant on that show, that David Simon's
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Speaker 1: show Tremae, which was an HBO show, David Simon from
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Speaker 1: the Wire, which I just can't believe he had that
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Speaker 1: going on as well in the height of his fame. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: getting off topic, let me know your favorite Bourdain books,
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Speaker 1: TV shows, et cetera, and what you thought of the
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Speaker 1: episode six one seven nine oh six six six three
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Speaker 1: take a quick break, come back on the other side
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Speaker 1: with an update on the subjects for the next round
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Speaker 1: of disgrace Land episodes. And I'm going to take some
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Speaker 1: of your calls, of course, your text and your dms.
19:04
Speaker 1: Andy Warhol, Hunter S Thompson, Peter Tosh, Steve McQueen, Van Hanlan,
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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Bascat. Those are the next episodes of Disgraceland
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Speaker 1: coming down the Fike in the coming weeks for you, guys.
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Speaker 1: It's obvious to me that you guys having a say,
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Speaker 1: having your voice heard and the choosing of what episodes
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Speaker 1: we cover is incredibly important to you. Of all the
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Speaker 1: subjects that I hear from you guys on this is
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Speaker 1: the one that you speak up about the most constantly, unsolicited,
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Speaker 1: All this amounts to having about half the programming for
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Speaker 1: this year already planned out. But we need to select
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Speaker 1: the episodes for the second half of this year, guys,
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Speaker 1: the After Party and on Socials, but we're thinking about
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Speaker 4: Hey Jake, I'd love to hear an episode on Stuart Adamson,
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Speaker 4: former guitarist and songwriter for The Skids and lead singer
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Speaker 4: and leader of the band Big Country.
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Speaker 2: Love what you do. Keep up the good work.
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Speaker 1: Thanks man, fine, I gotta tell you man, thanks for
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Speaker 1: the call, but I gotta tell you a Big Country.
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Speaker 1: I love that single in a Big Country by Big Country,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know squat about that band, so I
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Speaker 1: am interested. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: look into it. We shall see. Let's check out this
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Speaker 1: voicemail from the nine to seven three.
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Speaker 2: Hey Jake, Jerry from the ninety seven three How you doing.
24:58
Speaker 2: I just wanted to talk about out that anti Boardain episode.
25:01
Speaker 3: I just heard it.
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Speaker 2: It was awesome home run. You you really knocked out
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Speaker 2: of the park with that one.
25:08
Speaker 3: I can really relate to Anthony Bourdain because we're both
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Speaker 3: the same age, we both grew up in Jersey, both
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Speaker 3: had the same you know, sense of humor and stuff
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Speaker 3: like that. Used to love his shows, read all his books,
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Speaker 3: and was really devastated when he killed himself.
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Speaker 2: We've all been down that road one way or another.
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Speaker 3: Maybe not that far, especially in relationships, and I can
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Speaker 3: relate to that.
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Speaker 2: So I never went that far. But anyway, good job,
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Speaker 2: kudos and keep up the good works. Look forward to
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Speaker 2: the next one.
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Speaker 1: Jerry, thanks to the call. Thanks for the awesome message.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Nine to seven three, Jerry in New Jersey. Yeah, guys,
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Speaker 1: if you have not heard the Anthony Bourdaine episode, it
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Speaker 1: is there. It is ready for you. Give me a call,
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Speaker 1: like Jerry in the nine seven three, let me know
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Speaker 1: what you thought. You can also text us six one
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Speaker 1: seven nine six six six three eight three oh two.
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Speaker 1: Rights And I've listened to all Disgraceland and all the
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Speaker 1: Badlands episodes, and I've never heard you speak with more
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Speaker 1: love and energy than the Anthony Bourdaine episode. That's from
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Speaker 1: the three O two Thank You three oh two. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate that. The two o three Rights and Hey Jake,
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Speaker 1: this is Melissa from the two o three Thank you
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Speaker 1: for the rewind episode on run DMC. I loved listening
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Speaker 1: to it again. And here's a photo of me and
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Speaker 1: Darryl McDaniels, who's doing a signing at one of the
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Speaker 1: that's from the two o three two oh three I've
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Speaker 1: had the I've had the pleasure of meeting Daryl once before,
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Speaker 1: not really meeting him. I was standing side stage and uh,
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Speaker 1: he just walked in, gave me a fist pump, jumped
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Speaker 1: on stage, and proceeded to kick ass. It was very fun.
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Speaker 1: Five point eight rights and hey Jake, loved the Boordine episode.
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Speaker 1: Met him once after one of his speaking gigs in Kingston,
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Speaker 1: New York. He was very gracious. Also for your top
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Speaker 1: ten books and docs. I think you missed out on
26:51
Speaker 1: cash and the kids are all right. I might also
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Speaker 1: throw the Filth and the Fury in there. Too, still
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Speaker 1: great LISTA. Yeah, you're right, I did miss out. I've
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Speaker 1: read all those and they're incredible. He's only ten. It's hard.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to come up with the top ten. That's
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Speaker 1: why they're so compelling. All right, six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: just like Jason hass here subject Boordain episode another great
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Speaker 1: story told message, Dear Jake and company. I just finished
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Speaker 1: listening to the newest Disgraceland about Anthony BOURDAINA when word
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Speaker 1: came out that Bordain had taken his own life. I
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Speaker 1: felt a little heartbroken and some real grief for this guy,
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Speaker 1: this perfect stranger who seems to be an embodiment of
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Speaker 1: many excellent qualities that you mentioned, empathy, connection, understanding. Even today,
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Speaker 1: when I find TV shows that have him making a
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Speaker 1: guest appearance, I feel a little stabbed in my heart,
27:47
Speaker 1: and I'm grateful to see him still alive. I've always
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Speaker 1: had a little obsession with him, I guess, and how
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Speaker 1: it felt to lose this person whom I thought of
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Speaker 1: as a great anti hero role model. I think this
27:56
Speaker 1: episode has helped me fill in some holes in Boordain's story.
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Speaker 1: I thought you trade him in very realistic tones, laden
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Speaker 1: with your signature effects and style of dark humor, grit, grime,
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Speaker 1: facing ugly truth, also pointing out the human side of
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Speaker 1: your subjects. It was a fitting tribute to our long
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Speaker 1: lost anti hero Anthony Bourdain. I am grateful for that.
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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Jason and Milwaukee, Jason, thanks to the message.
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Speaker 1: That's you know, it makes me happy because that's what
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Speaker 1: I try to do. I try to give a complete picture,
28:22
Speaker 1: or at least a holistic picture, if not complete. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I'm directly inspired by
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Speaker 1: Anthony Bourdain, but I strive for empathy as well in
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Speaker 1: my own way and happy to hear that that came across.
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Speaker 1: So thank you, guys. Disgrace Sampod at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 1: all right, welcome back again. Six one seven nine six
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