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4 missing men, Dance Mom star to prison, Missy Bevers update · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius x M Triumph
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Speaker 1: Channel one two. A painstaking search over nine acres. We're
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Speaker 1: going through it with the equivalent of a fine tooth comb.
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Speaker 1: The search for four missing young men from Bucks County
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Speaker 1: centered on a farm in Silbury Township. We're getting a
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Speaker 1: lot of strong indications that this is where we need
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Speaker 1: to focus. They look for evidence of the four young
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Speaker 1: men who disappeared within days of each other. It's very disturbing.
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Patrick was first reported missing on Wednesday. Just two
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Speaker 1: days later, Mark Sturgist, Tom Meo, and Deep Finochi are
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Speaker 1: also disappeared. Police arrested twenty year old Cosmo di Nardo
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Speaker 1: on unrelated weapons charges, but stopped short of calling him
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Speaker 1: a suspect. Mr DeNardo is a person of interest local
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Speaker 1: authorities and now saying, simply hang on to hope in
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Speaker 1: Bucks County. I'm talking about the four young guys. They
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Speaker 1: all look scrubbed in sunshine to me. Four young guys
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Speaker 1: mysteriously go missing. You know, I started preparing to do
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Speaker 1: this for ABC's Good Morning America and reading and reading
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Speaker 1: and reading about it, and listening to every scrap of
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Speaker 1: evidence I could find I ended up staying up till
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Speaker 1: about two o'clock the night before getting up at four. Actually,
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Speaker 1: because there's just so many intricacies involved in the disappearance
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Speaker 1: of four young guys. They just seemingly disappear out of nowhere.
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Speaker 1: But now authorities are all converging at a sixty eight
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Speaker 1: acre corn farm, yes, out in a rural area, and
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Speaker 1: developments are happening hot and heavy as the families are
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Speaker 1: four young guys, some ten means are standing by, and
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Speaker 1: it broke my heart to hear that a lot of
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Speaker 1: their families are just standing around police vehicles at the
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Speaker 1: search location, just standing there wondering is my son dead
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Speaker 1: or alive? I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us and with me. Special guests
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Speaker 1: from w f m Z TV Jamie Stover joining us
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Speaker 1: from Bucks County as the search for the four missing
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Speaker 1: young men stretches in today four Jamie, thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for being with us. They've compared it to looking
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Speaker 1: for a needle in a haystack. Tell me how this
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Speaker 1: whole thing went down. First of all, police are trying
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Speaker 1: to probe the connection between the four missing. Why are
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Speaker 1: these four missing? Now? I know two of them are
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Speaker 1: best friends. What more do we know about the crack?
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Speaker 1: Two of them are best friends the rest And that's
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Speaker 1: what's so interesting about a lot of us is there
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Speaker 1: really isn't um. Like you said, we're going now into
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Speaker 1: the fourth day of searching. It's now been a week
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Speaker 1: since one of those young men was reported missing, and
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Speaker 1: it's still unclear really how all these men knew each other,
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Speaker 1: knew each other if in fact they did um and
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Speaker 1: and appears, at least in the public realm, that that's
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Speaker 1: what the investigators are trying to figure out. Even in
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Speaker 1: the day four just yesterday, the district attorney was was
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Speaker 1: saying that they still need the public's help in determining
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Speaker 1: what exactly the nature of these relationships may have been.
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Speaker 1: They are leading to believe that they somehow knew each other. Um.
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Speaker 1: But that's really what's what's so interesting about this. And
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Speaker 1: then you you add on um, you know that one
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Speaker 1: of the recent developments of now having a person of interest, uh,
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Speaker 1: you add on a fifth person where we're trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out what was potentially the relationship between five of
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Speaker 1: these young men who who are involved in in this
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Speaker 1: story that is really just exploded in just part of Pennsylvania. Well,
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Speaker 1: the one person that Jamie's talking about, the so called
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Speaker 1: person of interest, and they wouldn't even say that at
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Speaker 1: the begin inning, is the son of the owner of
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Speaker 1: this large corn farm. It's Cosmo di Nardo. He's about
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Speaker 1: nineteens twenty years old, and he has had mental disturbances
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Speaker 1: in the past. He has been involuntarily committed in the past.
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Speaker 1: He has been spotted walking around this this farm in
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Speaker 1: camo camouflage outfit with a gun. Okay, Now, he's not
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Speaker 1: supposed to have a gun, and I don't know what
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Speaker 1: the restrictions on him were, but they have arrested him.
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Speaker 1: They've booked him on a gun charge, nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with the disappearance. But I want to go back to
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Speaker 1: these four guys. I've gone over and over and over everything.
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Speaker 1: Two of them, Uh Sturgis, Mark Sturgis, and twenty one
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Speaker 1: year old Tom Mayo longtime friends. That's how those two
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Speaker 1: know each other. Okay, Also they weren't for Sturgis's dad,
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Speaker 1: Mark Potash, all right, That's how Mark and Tom know
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Speaker 1: each other. Then Dean Finocchiaro is a mutual friend of both,
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Speaker 1: so that's how he fits in we have one more
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Speaker 1: missing that accounts for finn o'kiarro Sturgis in Mayo. Then
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Speaker 1: there's Jimmy tar Patrick. Nobody knows exactly how Patrick fits in,
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Speaker 1: but I can tell you this. I have been reading
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Speaker 1: and learned that Patrick was a Facebook friend of DiNardo,
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Speaker 1: the potential person of interest. They were Facebook friends. Now
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? That may mean nothing more, Jamie
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Speaker 1: than Donardo went online and friended Patrick. That that doesn't
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Speaker 1: really mean a lot. But these are the developments that
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Speaker 1: I know about that that we did learn a little
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Speaker 1: bit more last night. One of our reporters last night
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Speaker 1: spoke with friends of Jimmy Patrick um and said that
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Speaker 1: he went to school with DeNardo, but stop short of
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Speaker 1: calling them friends. Uh. These these these friends that we
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Speaker 1: interviewed were actually not even familiar uh personally with Donardo,
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Speaker 1: and they wouldn't classify Patrick and DeNardo as friends. But
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Speaker 1: it appears that they did go to school together at
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Speaker 1: least for a short short time. UM. So that is
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Speaker 1: one piece of information that is is starting starting to
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Speaker 1: come out as well. But you're right, that is the
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Speaker 1: only person that DeNardo, of these four men is actually
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Speaker 1: friends with on Facebook. From anything we've been able to
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Speaker 1: find online. The other three. There's not a clear connection
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Speaker 1: to Donardo, at least on any social media account. You
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Speaker 1: know this is I come from a very rural area
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Speaker 1: and it reminds me of that. This is many people
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Speaker 1: have said, out in the middle of nowhere, Jamie. And
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Speaker 1: it's beautiful country. It's Silbury Township, Pennsylvania. It's not far
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Speaker 1: from upscale Bucks County. And these parents, I mean, one
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Speaker 1: of these kids, nineteen years old, never been in a
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Speaker 1: day of trouble in his life. One said their son
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Speaker 1: likes to sit at home and play the guitar. Uh.
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Speaker 1: They talk about their their dreams of what they want
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Speaker 1: to do when they quote get out of college and
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Speaker 1: go on. And now the FBI, along with six other
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Speaker 1: agencies are involved. They just disappear in the twinkling of
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Speaker 1: an eye. And now authorities have brought in quote heavy equipment.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking back hose, bobcats, cranes. It's not good, Jamie Stover,
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Speaker 1: when they're looking for you with a back code, all right,
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Speaker 1: that ain't No, there's nothing good about the district attorney
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Speaker 1: I added yesterday. I mean he he has not gone
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Speaker 1: as far to say that. Um, you know that that
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Speaker 1: this is going to be a rim reality in the
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Speaker 1: end of it. He's he's quoted multiple times, as I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you've been reading, saying that they are still holding
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Speaker 1: on to hope. Um. But he he did, in fact
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Speaker 1: say yesterday then in addition to that heavy equipment that
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Speaker 1: you're speaking of, if you've seen any of the surrailance
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Speaker 1: video or excuse me, the uh the overhead video of
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Speaker 1: that property showing them digging, they did bring in cadaverted
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Speaker 1: arms as well. Oh oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, Jamie,
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Speaker 1: Jamie Waite, Alan, are you with me? With me? Alan
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Speaker 1: do joining me my buddy and colleague Alan. Oh, I
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Speaker 1: just thought about it. You can't find your your kid,
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Speaker 1: you can't find your son, and you see them bringing
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Speaker 1: back cos Oh, dear God in heaven. Can you even
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Speaker 1: imagine what these parents are going through. And they're all
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Speaker 1: clustering around a cup car at the scene every day,
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Speaker 1: just standing there watching bringing in bobcats and back cos oh.
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Speaker 1: Any answers wondering it's the most painful thing to father,
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Speaker 1: where mother could go through. I would imagine Jamie Stover
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Speaker 1: with me from w f m Z TV, joining me
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Speaker 1: from Bucks County. Jamie we know this as well. This
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Speaker 1: is a sprawling family property there in Slabury Township. We
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Speaker 1: know that it's about thirty miles north of Philly. Six
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Speaker 1: other agencies involved, in addition to the FBI. We know
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Speaker 1: that one cell phone has been tracked to this area.
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Speaker 1: I think it's Finocchio's cell phone was tracked there. And
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Speaker 1: then not only that places him there somewhere in that area,
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Speaker 1: then one car has been found parked in a garage,
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Speaker 1: kind of a hidden I can't imagine what it's like.
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Speaker 1: You may know better than me. And they've just found
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Speaker 1: the car. Another car was of the boys was found
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Speaker 1: a nearby shopping area and Peddler's Village whose car is
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Speaker 1: where Jamie Stover. So the first car that you spoke
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Speaker 1: of that has not been confirmed on our end by
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Speaker 1: by anybody uh an official capacity. I do believe that
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Speaker 1: has been reported elsewhere. The second car that you're speaking
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Speaker 1: of is Mark Sturgis, and I did speak with his family,
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Speaker 1: and according to his family, his car, like you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: was was found at Peddler's Village, which is less than
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Speaker 1: a mile from that property where they've been searching now
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Speaker 1: for for four days. Um And what stood out to
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Speaker 1: the family about where that car was parked. Peddler's Village
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Speaker 1: is it's it's it's a shopping center that they would
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Speaker 1: not anticipate seeing um their son shopping at. It's more
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Speaker 1: of a of a family facility. It's it's not somewhere
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Speaker 1: where you know, a twenty seven year old kid would
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Speaker 1: just pop in and you know, to quote them almost
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Speaker 1: exactly too, you know, they don't picture him stopping in
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Speaker 1: and just getting an ice cream cone and walking around.
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Speaker 1: So that's another piece of the puzzle that we're still
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Speaker 1: waiting as many of these pieces we're still waiting on
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Speaker 1: to really get a clear image of what exactly happened here.
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Speaker 1: But that seemed very out of character to that family,
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Speaker 1: in addition to him not coming home at all, not calling,
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Speaker 1: and then not showing up for work the next day,
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Speaker 1: in addition to his best friend who also worked for
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Speaker 1: that construction company. As you mentioned just a little bit ago,
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Speaker 1: you know, my fiancee was murdered working for a construction
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Speaker 1: company at the middle of nowhere on a hot summer day.
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Speaker 1: And it's really made me think about that. A lot
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Speaker 1: these guys working this summer for a construction company belonging
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Speaker 1: to one of the dads. I've got a lot of
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Speaker 1: questions for you. I wanted to establish the facts pretty
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Speaker 1: much as we know them right now. The searches up
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Speaker 1: and going right now again day four for these four
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Speaker 1: young guys. What time of the day? And I know
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Speaker 1: a lot of these answers may not be clear right now,
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Speaker 1: just throwing you some rapid fire questions that means something
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Speaker 1: to me after thousands of investigations of missing people and
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Speaker 1: homicide investigations, Jamie, what time of the day do we
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Speaker 1: think they disappeared? Some of them were spotted before they disappeared.
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Speaker 1: What do we know? That's another question that we don't
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Speaker 1: have a lot of answers on. I can speak the
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Speaker 1: most to Mark Sturgis, whose family UM reported him missing
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Speaker 1: the following Saturday because he didn't show up to work
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Speaker 1: and he never came home, and he lived and he
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Speaker 1: lived with his parents. But it's not really clear exactly
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Speaker 1: when he went missing. Um, you know the shopping center
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Speaker 1: where his where his car was left. UM. I've spoken
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Speaker 1: with family, I've I've asked prosecutors. You would think there
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Speaker 1: would be some sort of surveillance video that they could
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Speaker 1: get a time frame on. Did he walk from his car,
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Speaker 1: did he did someone come up to his car? What
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Speaker 1: time did that happen? When did he arrive? Um? And
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Speaker 1: you know, investigators have really been keeping this very very
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Speaker 1: tight to the vest and have not even established at
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Speaker 1: least publicly that they have that video. They really are
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Speaker 1: not getting as much. Well, are there video cameras in
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Speaker 1: Peddler's village? Certainly one of the shops has to have
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Speaker 1: I would think so, given the size of of that facility. Now,
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Speaker 1: whether or not there's camera's pointing to exactly where his
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Speaker 1: car is that I don't know. I know that that
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Speaker 1: is questions that his family has asked. We don't know
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Speaker 1: where it was parked in the parking lot, was anybody
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Speaker 1: was he spotted or there any sidings of him that
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Speaker 1: and again that we have not been pretty to the
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Speaker 1: The investigation has been for as for as public and
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Speaker 1: wide reaching, and this has been the details have come
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Speaker 1: out pretty sparingly, pretty um, pretty sparingly. I mean it
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Speaker 1: was when they all said they did call it a
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Speaker 1: criminal investigation, but they stopped short of identifying anyone or
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Speaker 1: even you know, confirming the property they were on. And
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Speaker 1: then and then it comes out that yes, we have
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Speaker 1: a person of interest. And that person, as we've already
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Speaker 1: talked about, is is Cosmo DeNardo. His parents property is
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Speaker 1: the subject of this massive um search up's going on
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Speaker 1: right now. Where you see this heavy equipment. You see
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Speaker 1: sifting equipment out there. Uh. He was locked up on
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Speaker 1: on an unrelated offense, UH, stemming from back in February,
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Speaker 1: a charge of actually uh was refiled um in the
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Speaker 1: midst of this investigation. I mean, that's another issue I
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about because the gun charge
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Speaker 1: that DiNardo, this is the fifth person. They're referring to
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Speaker 1: him as the fifth person, but what he is is
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Speaker 1: a person of interest. And the disappearance of the four boys. Okay,
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Speaker 1: DiNardo had been involuntarily committed a while back, and he
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Speaker 1: had a gun charge. And what he had was a
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Speaker 1: shotgun and ammo. That's what the that's from which the
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Speaker 1: gun charge stemmed. It was a Savage Arms twenty gage
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Speaker 1: shotgun and ammo and it was dropped. Now, this is
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Speaker 1: why I'm saying he's very much a person of interest
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Speaker 1: because after they dropped the gun charge against him a
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Speaker 1: while back, in the recent days, they decided to refile
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Speaker 1: it so they could arrest him and post him a
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Speaker 1: million dollar bail. Look last night he posted, Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: that's a hundred grand you only have to put down
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Speaker 1: ten percent. WHOA, So he's out. That's a development. A
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Speaker 1: million dollar bail on a gun charge is unheard of.
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Speaker 1: Usually on murders you get a million dollar bill. And
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Speaker 1: also the fact that they he posted it. According to
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Speaker 1: Jamie Jamie guys, Jamie Stover is joining us from w
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Speaker 1: f m Z TV. That means his family's got money
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Speaker 1: if they can come up with a hundred thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: cash or collateral. So he's out. But my point on
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Speaker 1: that is they trumped up the charge. It's a legitimate
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Speaker 1: charge on this gun, the Savage Arms twenty gage, but
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Speaker 1: they had dropped it. Then they revive it in order
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Speaker 1: to get at him behind bars, but they reinvigorated. They
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Speaker 1: refiled that charge now and they didn't have to do that.
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Speaker 1: So that's why they did that. Hey, you know, question
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Speaker 1: to you, Jamie and Alan you as well. Sturgis in Mayo.
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Speaker 1: Last seen Friday. Finocchiaro was last seen, according to reports,
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Speaker 1: being quote picked up by a fifth person who is
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Speaker 1: not missing. WHOA, that's gotta be DeNardo the p O.
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Speaker 1: I so if I'm reading this clearly an understanding. Clearly
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Speaker 1: clearly Finocchiaro, who was not the friend of Denardo's, was
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Speaker 1: picked up by a fifth person who was not missing.
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Speaker 1: So it's gotta be that's certainly possible that it was
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Speaker 1: that it was DeNardo, that it was him, that possible.
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Speaker 1: It has not been confirmed, that has not been hinted at.
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Speaker 1: So we don't know who the fifth is. Friends that
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Speaker 1: came by, friends that came by to the scene interested
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Speaker 1: or wanting to know what happened to their friend of
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Speaker 1: Ofociario earlier this week, so that he did not drive,
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Speaker 1: so it had made sense to them that he would
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Speaker 1: have had somebody picked him up somewhere because he was
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Speaker 1: not drying. I got it. The fact that he doesn't
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Speaker 1: drive means that anybody could have been giving him a
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Speaker 1: ride to get to that location, not necessarily that DeNardo
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Speaker 1: picked him up. See that one little tidbit that he
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Speaker 1: didn't drive changes the landscape um another issue. Investigators, according
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Speaker 1: to sources, executed search warrant at a nearby home in Sulbury.
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Speaker 1: That home also belongs to Denardo's family and find Mayo's
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Speaker 1: car in the garage. According to sources Storges's vehicle was
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Speaker 1: there at Peddler's village, Uh, not too far away, according
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Speaker 1: to his dad. They are now saying foul play is
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Speaker 1: definitely suspected. Here's my question, Alan, how could Cosmo DeNardo,
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Speaker 1: a twenty year old son of the property owners, subdue
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Speaker 1: and or kill but at least subdu four strapping young
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Speaker 1: teen boys. How could he do that? Now? One is
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Speaker 1: one is I think twenty one, but they're they're very young,
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Speaker 1: never been in trouble before, several lived with their parents.
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Speaker 1: How could he do it? Guns? Using firearms. You put
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Speaker 1: a gun on me, I'm going to get in your car.
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Speaker 1: I'll remember that. Probably. You know, a gun makes a
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Speaker 1: big man little and a little man big. I've used
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Speaker 1: that in a million closing arguments. You're right, You're absolutely right.
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Speaker 1: And he was known DeNardo for marching around the property
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Speaker 1: and camouflage with a gun. But how did he lure
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Speaker 1: them there? In mind, we're not allegedly dealing with a
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Speaker 1: normal man. He has a history of middle illness. He
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Speaker 1: was involuntarily committed to a mental health facility. That's why
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Speaker 1: he couldn't have that shotgun. Whether the disappearances are linked,
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Speaker 1: the four men knew each other, but it's not definitively
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Speaker 1: known whether their disappearances are related. You know, I can
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Speaker 1: answer that right now, Yes, they're related. Why are they missing?
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Speaker 1: Family and friends say they don't understand. They don't know
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Speaker 1: of any reason they would have gone missing. Now Cosmos
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Speaker 1: Denortove connection. What is that he's called a person of interest?
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Speaker 1: When did that development occur? Jamie? That came out yesterday?
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Speaker 1: His name came out Tuesday or Monday's now today? Is
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Speaker 1: it came out the day the day before? When that
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Speaker 1: when that charge came out, That's when people started hearing
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Speaker 1: that name, started wondering, Okay, what's what's what's the potential
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Speaker 1: connection here? But the actual explicitly explicit um characterization as
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Speaker 1: a person of interest was out yesterday from the District
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Speaker 1: Attorney's office in the area. They were not in a group, though, Jamie,
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Speaker 1: you've got one, two of them possibly in a car together.
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Speaker 1: You've got um an additional car, and then you've got
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Speaker 1: a fourth wild card. They weren't. They didn't. He didn't
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Speaker 1: get them all together in a group and hold a
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Speaker 1: gun on them and march them to this area. That's
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Speaker 1: not how it went down. How we're what's so interesting
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Speaker 1: about that? Well, and and of course that's one of
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Speaker 1: the big questions. But the the the other big mystery
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Speaker 1: here is is Jimmy Patrick went missing on Wednesday. He's
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Speaker 1: now been unheard of off the grid since Wednesday. The
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Speaker 1: other three men UM, we're not reported missing or or
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Speaker 1: last seen Friday. So there's a two day gap there
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Speaker 1: between one person who went missing and then the other three.
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Speaker 1: So so this idea that maybe were they all grouped
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Speaker 1: together in some way, you know, perhaps, but it wouldn't
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Speaker 1: seem that way because of the of the gap in
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Speaker 1: um when they went missing. So that's another piece that
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Speaker 1: has a lot of our owners and I'm sure investigators,
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Speaker 1: you know, scratching their heads wondering, you know, how did
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Speaker 1: this all happen, What was the sequence of events, what
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Speaker 1: exactly did happen? I mean, at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: this is still a criminal missing persons investigation UM, at
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Speaker 1: least that is what the district attorney is willing to
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Speaker 1: say publicly. At this point. They have not really progressed
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Speaker 1: or changed the how they're characterizing this investigation since since
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Speaker 1: this started unfold. Right now, we know that cadaver dogs
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Speaker 1: have been brought in heavy construction equipment, including a back
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Speaker 1: co and a very careful examination of land, not to
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Speaker 1: miss the tiniest piece of evidence. According to the county's
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Speaker 1: district attorney, so far, no human remains have turned up. Question, Jamie,
21:49
Speaker 1: can they still be alive? I mean, look, there was
21:52
Speaker 1: the Elizabeth Smart case, There's the do Guard case. There
21:58
Speaker 1: are cases where the person or people are found a
22:02
Speaker 1: lot it can happen, Jamie, Well, that is what the
22:06
Speaker 1: bucks kind of district attorney is at least holding onto
22:09
Speaker 1: and and and he has far more information, certainly than
22:12
Speaker 1: than anybody and anywhere in the press would have at
22:15
Speaker 1: this point, um And and he's not willing to take
22:19
Speaker 1: that off the table, that they may be found safe,
22:22
Speaker 1: may return to their homes and to their families, which
22:25
Speaker 1: of course, you know, you have a lot of people
22:27
Speaker 1: hoping and praying for um And he has basically said,
22:30
Speaker 1: we are going to hold on to that until it
22:32
Speaker 1: is no longer possible. And at this point they are
22:34
Speaker 1: holding on to that as a possibility and hoping and
22:39
Speaker 1: thinking about their families, all plustered together, wondering what happened
22:47
Speaker 1: to their children. I mean, you know, I thought I
22:52
Speaker 1: was happy Before I had the twins, I had no
22:54
Speaker 1: idea what happiness really is for me anyway, and then
22:59
Speaker 1: you have the child and you pour in all your love,
23:03
Speaker 1: all your energy. Last night I lit for the first
23:09
Speaker 1: time for John David Sparklers, and you would have thought
23:13
Speaker 1: the world had just stopped. He was so thrilled riding
23:17
Speaker 1: in the air with Sparklers, and I think about him
23:20
Speaker 1: and my sweet girl Lucy growing up. I can't imagine
23:25
Speaker 1: what these parents and family are going through. Our thoughts
23:29
Speaker 1: and prayers with the four boys and their families now
23:33
Speaker 1: as they continue with cadaver dogs and back coos on
23:37
Speaker 1: that sixty acre cornfield. Jamie Stover with me from w
23:42
Speaker 1: f m Z TV, thank you so much for being
23:45
Speaker 1: with us. And now to Abby Lee Miller. So many
23:51
Speaker 1: people right now are addicted to reality TV. They think
23:57
Speaker 1: the people on the reality TV shows a they're not reality,
24:01
Speaker 1: they're scripted, but you think because you see them in
24:04
Speaker 1: your home that you know them and they have become
24:07
Speaker 1: like family members or actual friends. It was a big
24:10
Speaker 1: shock to Dance Mom aficionados, the reality hit show, when
24:16
Speaker 1: Abbey Lee Miller was ordered to a federal penitentiary. The
24:23
Speaker 1: former dance Moms star, and there's no doubt that she
24:26
Speaker 1: did it because she finally pled guilty when a judge
24:30
Speaker 1: had caught her red handed. Abille Miller, dance mom, reality
24:35
Speaker 1: star in prison, heads to prison to day and joining
24:41
Speaker 1: me right now is a star in his own right
24:43
Speaker 1: from ET reporter Danny Directoh you know, Danny was so amazing?
24:48
Speaker 1: Is as recently as this past week she has been
24:52
Speaker 1: yucking it up and cracking jokes with paparazzi and all
24:56
Speaker 1: of her flunkeys, laughing about going to a federal in
25:00
Speaker 1: a tantry. I don't get it. You just spoke to her,
25:02
Speaker 1: what's funny about the pen? That was exactly what I
25:05
Speaker 1: was thinking when I first chatted with her. This was
25:07
Speaker 1: just this past weekend on Saturday. And first of all,
25:10
Speaker 1: let me tell you the event I caught up with
25:11
Speaker 1: her at. That'll give you a sense of where she's
25:13
Speaker 1: at right now as as far as her head space
25:15
Speaker 1: before she heads to prison. I caught up with her
25:17
Speaker 1: at the Marvel Universe Live premiere. I mean it was
25:20
Speaker 1: the last place where I imagine talking to Adilee Miller
25:22
Speaker 1: before she starts her prison sentence. I mean, alongside Captain
25:25
Speaker 1: America and Iron man, you know, but yeah, she would.
25:28
Speaker 1: I did not get the sense that this was a
25:30
Speaker 1: woman who was nervous about checking into a federal prison.
25:33
Speaker 1: She was very lighthearted and made made jokes about the
25:36
Speaker 1: fact that she would be heading into prison, and even
25:39
Speaker 1: referred to her time there as me time. She mentioned
25:42
Speaker 1: that she's always put others before her, especially the young girls.
25:45
Speaker 1: She tall and dance moms, always trying to okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, Danny.
25:51
Speaker 1: As much as I love you, as handsome and wonderful
25:54
Speaker 1: as I think you are, could you please repeat what
25:58
Speaker 1: you said, because either you miscommunicated or I need a
26:02
Speaker 1: hearing a Are you saying the dance mom star abilie
26:06
Speaker 1: mailor she's the one that hit the lady she slapped
26:09
Speaker 1: the other lady or yanked her hair and started all
26:13
Speaker 1: these fights. She was the villain. And then she lied
26:15
Speaker 1: to the federal government, hiding all sorts of money, including
26:19
Speaker 1: asking friends as they returned from an out of country
26:23
Speaker 1: trip to hide cash and money, as I recall, so
26:27
Speaker 1: she would not have to declare it are we talking
26:30
Speaker 1: about the same lady? And you said, Danny directed She
26:34
Speaker 1: always was self sacrificing. She put everybody else first, what
26:38
Speaker 1: about that hundred grands she stuffed down her underwear? I
26:40
Speaker 1: mean helped me out here, Danny, No, I have the
26:42
Speaker 1: exact quote here for you. You're hearing is not off,
26:45
Speaker 1: She says quote. I've always put everyone else's child first
26:48
Speaker 1: before my own health, before my own outfit, before my
26:51
Speaker 1: own time frame. You know, everybody else was dressing out
26:54
Speaker 1: the door and looking perfect, and I was running around
26:56
Speaker 1: trying to find a clean tiel to take a shower with.
26:59
Speaker 1: So I think this is this about clothing? Wait, because
27:03
Speaker 1: she did not dress to the nines. Uh, that was
27:08
Speaker 1: herself sacrifice. Well, she won't have to worry about that
27:12
Speaker 1: in the penitentiary because guess what, they'll have a jumper
27:15
Speaker 1: and just her size. Let's talk about what the crime
27:19
Speaker 1: was she's been seeing as late as this, the past
27:23
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. She heads to the penitentiary today, flashing
27:27
Speaker 1: a huge smile while out to dinner at a posh
27:31
Speaker 1: l a restaurant. You could tell me about that, Alan Duke,
27:34
Speaker 1: But let's talk about why is she heading to jail.
27:38
Speaker 1: The thing about the hundred grand stuff down the underwear,
27:41
Speaker 1: that's I don't know the exact amount of money she
27:44
Speaker 1: hid while coming back into the country. But what really
27:48
Speaker 1: got her in trouble? And help me, Danny, because it's
27:50
Speaker 1: a tangled web. She had been in front of a
27:53
Speaker 1: bankruptcy judge, as I recall, she had been in front
27:56
Speaker 1: of a judge and was poor mouthing. So the Joe
28:00
Speaker 1: goes home and he believed it. He goes home and
28:03
Speaker 1: he sees that she's got a show, a spinoff show
28:07
Speaker 1: in the works, all sorts of money making ventures. And
28:11
Speaker 1: he felt duped and lied to. That's one thing you
28:14
Speaker 1: don't do is lie to a judge. That'll get you
28:19
Speaker 1: in a whole heap of trouble. So what exactly are
28:22
Speaker 1: where her charges? Danny. She she pled guilty to bankruptcy
28:25
Speaker 1: fraud and basically for defrauding the government out of and
28:28
Speaker 1: I do have the exact amount. Seven hundred and fifty
28:31
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Now was funny, I know, Okay, Sorry, I
28:36
Speaker 1: had to choke on that for a moment. Seven hundred
28:39
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars dollars, yes, and funny enough. When
28:45
Speaker 1: I talked to her, she when I asked how she's
28:47
Speaker 1: spending her last few days before prison, she's hanging out
28:50
Speaker 1: with friends at Pittsburgh, and then she made the joke
28:53
Speaker 1: that they will be reminiscing about old times and also
28:57
Speaker 1: gossiping about who the heck has that money, because as
28:59
Speaker 1: she claims, and she said, Mr nella camera, I sure
29:01
Speaker 1: don't have that money. I wonder where it is. So
29:04
Speaker 1: the jury still, I just wonder where it is. So
29:07
Speaker 1: she is now saying, even after pleading guilty under oath
29:13
Speaker 1: to fraud, but money fraud, she's now saying, no, that
29:17
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I don't know what happened to the money.
29:20
Speaker 1: Am I hearing correctly? So even now she's going down
29:23
Speaker 1: with a ship, That's what she said. And she told
29:25
Speaker 1: paparazzi last night at that Hollywood hotspot that her attorneys
29:28
Speaker 1: know that she's taking the fall on this one, so
29:30
Speaker 1: she claimed. So she alleged, right, she's taking the fall
29:33
Speaker 1: for other people. Is this the same lady I saw
29:37
Speaker 1: slap another woman or yanker hair? Is that her? Okay
29:43
Speaker 1: Ebiley Miller reality star initially indicted into two thousand fifteen
29:47
Speaker 1: on twenty that's right too, zero charges of fraud, concealment
29:52
Speaker 1: of bankruptcy assets, false declarations. She pled guilty for that
29:59
Speaker 1: and two thousand, sixteen, Danny Director. Where is she serving
30:03
Speaker 1: her sentence? She'll be serving her sentence in Victorville, California,
30:07
Speaker 1: where she'll begin starting today a one year and one
30:11
Speaker 1: day sentence. So so that's three hundred and sixty six
30:13
Speaker 1: days that she is expected to be in a prison facility.
30:17
Speaker 1: I asked her, what is what are you most nervous
30:20
Speaker 1: about in serving your sentence and ready for your mind
30:23
Speaker 1: to be blown? She said, it's I guess it's the
30:25
Speaker 1: braw thing. She says she from her research, she could
30:28
Speaker 1: try on a hundred braws and none of them will
30:31
Speaker 1: fit right, and they're just gonna handle one that's going
30:33
Speaker 1: to be perfect. She doesn't know, but she's most concerned
30:35
Speaker 1: about that apparently, Okay, that that's I'm not understanding that,
30:39
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been in so many penitentiaries and
30:43
Speaker 1: jails for various reasons, and they're horrible unless it says
30:47
Speaker 1: a minimum security. I do know. Alan Duke is also
30:51
Speaker 1: with me. Alan that she requested a particular jail and
30:56
Speaker 1: her request was granted. She is headed to UH the
31:00
Speaker 1: Correctional Facility in Victorville near Victorville, California, to start three
31:06
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six days, So she was charged with
31:09
Speaker 1: twenty counts, right, alan as she pled to one count. Right,
31:13
Speaker 1: they planned it down, and she has also to pay
31:15
Speaker 1: forty dollar fine. And I think judgment Victorville, by the way,
31:21
Speaker 1: is really Los Angeles. It's it's like the road just
31:24
Speaker 1: as you get outside of l A on the way
31:26
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. So it's centrally located for her to
31:29
Speaker 1: resume and keep her television career going. Now, And I
31:32
Speaker 1: ask Danny this, Danny, did she say what her television
31:35
Speaker 1: career future looks like? Well, first of all, let's not
31:37
Speaker 1: forget that today when she surrendered uh to the federal prison,
31:42
Speaker 1: Lifetime cameras were there rolling. I asked her why it was,
31:46
Speaker 1: why it was important to have the crew there to
31:48
Speaker 1: shoot this moment, and she said it wasn't up to her.
31:51
Speaker 1: She has signed a four year contract with a four
31:54
Speaker 1: year option, meaning it was not up to her. They
31:56
Speaker 1: it was important to Lifetime to shoot her surrendering. Now,
32:00
Speaker 1: as far as what happened after prison, I mean, I
32:03
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if she gets you know, the
32:05
Speaker 1: thing is, she could have surrendered in secret if she
32:08
Speaker 1: had wanted to. She did not have to have lifetime
32:11
Speaker 1: cameras there. She could easily have surrendered in secret. She
32:16
Speaker 1: could have gone in the middle of the night, but
32:19
Speaker 1: she she wanted this to be on camera. That I'm
32:23
Speaker 1: telling you you do not have to surrender in public.
32:26
Speaker 1: That is absolutely not true. So this is part of
32:30
Speaker 1: her I guess her master plan, and I believe that
32:33
Speaker 1: because yes, absolutely, I asked her. I said, well, well
32:36
Speaker 1: then you will you be getting paid for this, and
32:38
Speaker 1: she says, sure somewhere down the line. So I'm sure, Retchel, actively,
32:41
Speaker 1: she'll be getting paid for them. Rolling now she surrenders
32:43
Speaker 1: into prison, so I'm not I'm not surprised by it. Now,
32:46
Speaker 1: it's amazing, Danny Danny joining me from E T. Danny.
32:51
Speaker 1: You know, seven and fifty thousand dollars is more than
32:55
Speaker 1: most people we'll see their whole life. I mean, I
32:58
Speaker 1: remember my dad going to work for the railroad every day,
33:02
Speaker 1: even when he was having chest pains, and work forty
33:06
Speaker 1: three years plus for the railroad and never missed a
33:11
Speaker 1: day except when he was in the hospital. Ever, same
33:14
Speaker 1: thing with my mom. She'd be gone when I woke
33:17
Speaker 1: up and would and get home till late in the
33:20
Speaker 1: evening from work, and most people, most working class Americans
33:25
Speaker 1: and I know, never see that amount of money and
33:27
Speaker 1: their life. And to think that she hid that amount
33:31
Speaker 1: of money that was like nothing to her and now
33:35
Speaker 1: is pretending like it didn't happen. To see that makes
33:38
Speaker 1: me mad. To go in front of a judge and
33:40
Speaker 1: play guilty and then pretend that somehow you're the victim, Danny,
33:45
Speaker 1: It's mind boggling. I couldn't believe it myself. Do you predict,
33:48
Speaker 1: Danny that she's gonna land land right back on TV?
33:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I I that's how I feel. I think
33:53
Speaker 1: Lifetime would be remiss if they did not follow up
33:57
Speaker 1: to check in on aby Lee Miller after she completes
34:00
Speaker 1: a sentence. I mean, it's a ratings hit, it writes itself. Really,
34:03
Speaker 1: wouldn't you guys want to see how she came out
34:06
Speaker 1: out of all this? Imagine if Martha Stewart. You know, Danny,
34:09
Speaker 1: I hate to rain on your parade, but I've never
34:11
Speaker 1: seen Dance Moms. I've never seen the Kardashian Show. I
34:14
Speaker 1: don't have time to watch reality TV. I don't have
34:17
Speaker 1: time to watch TV period. I'm working and I'm trying
34:21
Speaker 1: to raise two twins, and I certainly would never let
34:24
Speaker 1: them watch my show for Pete's sake. Occasionally, they could
34:29
Speaker 1: see it on mute for about three minutes and then
34:31
Speaker 1: I have to get off. Okay, but no, no, I've
34:34
Speaker 1: never seen her on TV. I don't have a burning desire.
34:37
Speaker 1: But I have seen clips of her yanking that lady's
34:40
Speaker 1: hair and yelling at a bunch of little girls who
34:42
Speaker 1: were in dance class. That's what I know. And I
34:45
Speaker 1: know this. Don't mess with the tax man. Uh, you
34:51
Speaker 1: find that money and you pay the tax man, and
34:54
Speaker 1: don't lie to a freaking federal judge. I mean really.
34:58
Speaker 1: Oh and then the judge time he gets his popcorn
35:01
Speaker 1: and catches Abby Lee Miller on her spinoff show. Okay,
35:05
Speaker 1: Danny Directo, incredible, and I think you're right. I think
35:09
Speaker 1: she will end up on television, Danny Directo from ET
35:15
Speaker 1: what a story. And I've got a feeling you're gonna
35:18
Speaker 1: be there in three d and sixty six days when
35:20
Speaker 1: she walks out of the c I Danny, thanks for
35:23
Speaker 1: being with us, thank you for having me. When I
35:26
Speaker 1: hear the name mid Lothian, Texas, I immediately, like so
35:30
Speaker 1: many people, think of Missy Beavers. Can you believe it's
35:36
Speaker 1: been a little over a year since this beautiful mom
35:40
Speaker 1: at Texas fitness instructor was brutally murdered inside amid Lothian church.
35:48
Speaker 1: Miss Lothian only has a couple of thousand people. Let
35:51
Speaker 1: me check on that, Alan Duke with me on Missy Beavers.
35:56
Speaker 1: We've been rounding around. I remember that we got a
36:00
Speaker 1: couple of angry calls when we didn't have the population right.
36:03
Speaker 1: How big is Melothian? It's about it. It's a suburban
36:06
Speaker 1: area from dallas Worth worth of about fourteen thousand, But
36:09
Speaker 1: there are other towns near the bottom line is there's
36:11
Speaker 1: rural and their city all put in there together. Yeah,
36:15
Speaker 1: that sounds a lot like where I grew up in Macon, Georgia.
36:18
Speaker 1: She was teaching an early early morning aerobics class and
36:22
Speaker 1: gladiator class at Creekside Church of Christ and she was
36:30
Speaker 1: brutally beaten and the head, the neck, the face and
36:35
Speaker 1: stabbed there in the church. And of course, as in
36:39
Speaker 1: all homicide investigations, the first person people look at is
36:44
Speaker 1: the spouse, the boyfriend, the lover of the ex Amazingly,
36:49
Speaker 1: now from out of nowhere, her husband, Brandon Beavers, has
36:54
Speaker 1: spoken out to our Alan Duke. Alan, I'm amazed because
37:01
Speaker 1: he's really kept a very low profile, really played the
37:04
Speaker 1: whole thing very close to the vest. What did he
37:07
Speaker 1: tell you? Well, I've been talking to him now for
37:11
Speaker 1: some time and but he just doesn't want to go
37:14
Speaker 1: on microphone. But he did take the time out to
37:17
Speaker 1: write this very long explanation of what's going on in
37:21
Speaker 1: his life with his family and the investigation, and he
37:24
Speaker 1: asked that we printed word for word, totally unedited. It's
37:29
Speaker 1: on the Crime Online website and you can read it
37:31
Speaker 1: and it's really shows you what goes on in the
37:34
Speaker 1: mind of this husband who lost his wife to this
37:37
Speaker 1: incredibly crazy crime, with this guy or woman or whoever
37:42
Speaker 1: walking through this church with a hammer beating her to
37:45
Speaker 1: death claw hammer. And what's so amazing, Allen, is that
37:51
Speaker 1: the perp is caught on video. There's no doubt in
37:54
Speaker 1: my mind that this was a targeted attack. This person
37:58
Speaker 1: was not there to steal the audio, video equipment or
38:03
Speaker 1: the money that may have been left from the Sunday before. No,
38:08
Speaker 1: you don't show up in full police swat outfit, including
38:12
Speaker 1: what looks to be a motorcycle helmet to conceal your
38:14
Speaker 1: face even your hands are covered up. And then you
38:19
Speaker 1: show up, you know, very shortly before Missy Beavers comes
38:23
Speaker 1: in alone to set up for exercise class. You take nothing,
38:28
Speaker 1: nothing is stolen. You kind of wander around until Missy
38:33
Speaker 1: gets there. He killed her, I'm saying, he and then leave.
38:38
Speaker 1: No vehicle was parked at the church, and the case
38:42
Speaker 1: remains unsolved. What was the gist of Brandon Beaver's comments?
38:48
Speaker 1: What was in the letter? What has he been saying
38:50
Speaker 1: to you? Alan? He expressed the frustration of not having
38:55
Speaker 1: any answers, but then also the pain toward him and
39:01
Speaker 1: personally by people who don't know him, who are pointing
39:04
Speaker 1: the finger at him and questioning him. In fact, this
39:07
Speaker 1: is one of the sentences the social media has been about.
39:09
Speaker 1: This has been about the craziest thing I've ever witnessed.
39:11
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I've never engaged to anyone on the social
39:14
Speaker 1: media platform to defend myself, he says. The social media
39:19
Speaker 1: impact has driven me to the darkest reaches of my soul.
39:23
Speaker 1: He said for about three months he was emotionally spiritually
39:26
Speaker 1: rendered to a point where he could barely function. As
39:29
Speaker 1: much of this impact had, he said, I considered a
39:32
Speaker 1: fictional reality in other words, he's now decided not to
39:35
Speaker 1: let it get to him. He's moved beyond it. You know,
39:38
Speaker 1: this reminds me of your interview that you did, your
39:40
Speaker 1: incredible interview with Amanda Masner in Georgia, who went through
39:44
Speaker 1: the same thing and she just eventually decided to let
39:47
Speaker 1: it go. He did tell us some news about the investigation,
39:50
Speaker 1: and I found this interesting. Brand Brandon said that the
39:55
Speaker 1: Middle Othian police investigators, stumped after a year, have now
40:00
Speaker 1: outside help. They've taken all of the evidence down to Austin, Texas,
40:04
Speaker 1: the state capital, and presented it to a panel of
40:07
Speaker 1: other investigators experts to get their opinion on him. They
40:11
Speaker 1: spent four solid days presenting the case, and uh, they
40:15
Speaker 1: have not told him what came out of that, but
40:18
Speaker 1: the investigation goes on. You know what kind of broke
40:20
Speaker 1: my heart. In his letter, he says, we all wake
40:25
Speaker 1: up every day hoping and praying this person will come
40:28
Speaker 1: forward so we may finally have a closure, particularly our children.
40:36
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen, but he thinks it may happen,
40:40
Speaker 1: and that just that breaks my heart that he thinks
40:43
Speaker 1: this person is horrible killer is going to come forward.
40:47
Speaker 1: That is not going to happen right now, that killer
40:51
Speaker 1: seems to have gotten away. And I would never have
40:53
Speaker 1: believed that Alan the killer is caught on video for pizza.
40:57
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that where you see him
41:01
Speaker 1: this person. They don't really say if it's a man
41:03
Speaker 1: or a woman. You think it's a man. Some people
41:05
Speaker 1: say maybe it's a woman because the person is about
41:07
Speaker 1: five ft seven. This is where Brandon is right now.
41:12
Speaker 1: He says he has found peace now for the first
41:16
Speaker 1: time that has allowed for him to grieve her loss
41:20
Speaker 1: properly without outside interfere So he's kind of built a
41:23
Speaker 1: wall around him so that he and his family can
41:26
Speaker 1: have peace. And that's not why we're not That's why
41:28
Speaker 1: we're not hearing from him anymore other than in this letter. Well,
41:32
Speaker 1: the reality is as harsh as it is that when
41:36
Speaker 1: there is a homicide, the first place police look, whether
41:41
Speaker 1: they admit it or not, is at the husband, the lover,
41:45
Speaker 1: the ex, the spurned boyfriend. Then they go to those
41:50
Speaker 1: spouses and beyond to see if there was a hit
41:56
Speaker 1: or a murder for hire. All the motives are unearthed,
42:02
Speaker 1: and uh, a lot of things come out in the investigation.
42:06
Speaker 1: You wish had not come out. For instance, and their
42:09
Speaker 1: search warrants, they said that one or both of the
42:16
Speaker 1: partner's husband and wife Missy and Brandon one or both
42:19
Speaker 1: we don't know to this day who they're talking about,
42:22
Speaker 1: had had an intimate romantic relationship with somebody else. To
42:26
Speaker 1: see right there represents a love triangle. According to the
42:31
Speaker 1: search warrant. Um did her murder have anything to do
42:35
Speaker 1: with that? I mean, and remember, this could have been
42:38
Speaker 1: something that happened years and years and years ago. You know,
42:42
Speaker 1: we don't know, but I can only imagine. Think about it, Alan,
42:47
Speaker 1: think of the don't say it out loud, for Pete's sake,
42:51
Speaker 1: think of the worst thing you've ever done. Hold that thought,
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Speaker 1: and then imagine losing your spouse and how having all
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Speaker 1: of your private matters on TV and a public search warrant.
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Speaker 1: Everything you've ever done wrong is now out there, or
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Speaker 1: your your spouse or anything that's ever been intimated is
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Speaker 1: now public fodder and your children find out about it.
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Speaker 1: It's just awful. And add to that that these are
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Speaker 1: search warrants that were published in the early days of
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Speaker 1: the investigation, when police didn't know everything. These were justifications
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Speaker 1: to go and search something to look for something in
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Speaker 1: their investigation. Uh, and maybe they found out in the
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Speaker 1: course of that that it wasn't quite accurate, but it
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Speaker 1: was what they believed at the time. But we don't
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Speaker 1: get the record corrected and it's still hanging out there.
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Speaker 1: That's the kind of pain that the that the family
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Speaker 1: and the people who are close to a murdered individual suffer.
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Speaker 1: You know. Another thing alan in marriages, in relationships, people
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Speaker 1: have lapses. You say things, you do things that looking back,
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Speaker 1: you wish you had never done, or at the time
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Speaker 1: when you do it, you do it never thinking you're
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Speaker 1: gonna break up your marriage over it, you know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: people go they have an affair to make their ego
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Speaker 1: feel better, to make themselves feel better too, for what
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Speaker 1: a myriad of reasons. I mean, what's it with men
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Speaker 1: in this middle age fit they seem to have. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: there's a million reasons people say and do the things
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Speaker 1: they do in a relationship. But I guarantee you they
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily want to throw the marriage down the crapper,
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Speaker 1: you know it just no. And you see they were
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Speaker 1: still together at the time of her death. I just
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Speaker 1: that family because he was on a fishing trip. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that family has been through hell, and the fishing trip
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Speaker 1: apparently has been corroborated a yearly fishing trip he goes
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Speaker 1: on every year with a group of people. And this
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Speaker 1: time wasn't it uh like in Mississippi. Yes it was.
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Speaker 1: It was on the Gulf coast. Now there are these sleuths,
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Speaker 1: amateur sleuths who might want to say, well, maybe he
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Speaker 1: could have done this, that and that, but the police
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Speaker 1: don't believe that's the case. You mean, hire a hit man.
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Speaker 1: You think a hit man could keep his mouth shut?
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Speaker 1: Not likely. Whenever there's a conspiracy, it all goes to
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Speaker 1: h E double L in no time. Somebody talk. This
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Speaker 1: is the thing that sums it up for me that
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Speaker 1: he wrote in this letter that again people go to
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com and you'll find it, or google
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Speaker 1: Missy Beavers and crime online. One of my children commented
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Speaker 1: to me during this whole experience, I would rather the
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Speaker 1: social media stuff aimed at you go away than have
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Speaker 1: mom's murder solved. That's how difficult this is for those
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Speaker 1: little children. I mean, they're left with just their dad.
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Speaker 1: Their mom's gone, and they see their dad's suffering, and
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Speaker 1: that just must be brutal. On the children, and they're
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Speaker 1: going to be scarred with this the rest of their life.
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Speaker 1: You know what, Alan, I pray for piece for them.
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Speaker 1: I pray for peace and that her killer be found
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Speaker 1: and brought to justice. I mean, she was a beautiful
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Speaker 1: woman on the inside and out and a very loving mother.
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Speaker 1: In fact, the reason she taught that gladiator class I've
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Speaker 1: been told so early in the morning. I mean it
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Speaker 1: started at five, so it was so she could get
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Speaker 1: home and help her girls get ready for school and
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Speaker 1: take them to school. I mean, you know the things
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Speaker 1: we working moms go through to try to be with
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Speaker 1: our children, and now that just alwis struck me what
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Speaker 1: she would go through just get to take them to
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Speaker 1: school or be with them in the morning. Missy Beaver's
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Speaker 1: case unsolved, the husband reaching out to Alan do you
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Speaker 1: can crime Online to really bear his feelings about what
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Speaker 1: he and his family have been living through. Nancy Grace
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories, signing off goodbye friend.