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Ep.85- Steve Rothblum - Beduino vs. Come Six Match Race of 1974 · StallioneSearch Podcasts

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's October 29th, and you've found it.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_02: You found the number one quarter horse racing podcast in the country.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
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  SPEAKER_02: And here's your host, Greg Thompson of Stallionesearch.com.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_07: And hello again, everyone.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_07: I'm Greg Thompson of stallionesearch.com, and this is Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly, the number one quarter horse racing podcast in the country.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_07: And we're always so honored to bring it to you every week here on stallionesearch.com.
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  SPEAKER_07: And I know I say this every single week, but this one, this episode is a great one.
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  SPEAKER_07: As you're probably not going to find it anywhere of being able to talk to somebody that was there at one of the historical things that have happened in quarter horse racing history, that's a little bit off the grid, as it happens to be centered around the historic match race between Beduino and Cum6 that happened in Mexico back in the 70s.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_07: And it's a story that I had heard multiple times, second or third hand, of course.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_07: And I've also watched the actual match race on YouTube where if you're interested in this story, you should go on to YouTube and type in the Beduino cum 6 match race and watch the races in Spanish before diving into the subject this week.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_07: As we have somebody that was there firsthand taking care of Cumsix for trainer Bubba Warner, and that's Steve Rothbloom.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_07: And Steve joins us to kind of give his recount of the story of taking cum6 over to Mexico for this historic match race, as well as the aftermath, where the owner of Beduino sent Bedduino to Steve to train in California for another planned match race that never really materialized.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_07: And then, of course, kind of a consolation match race happened before Beduino began his quarter horse racing career that has landed him into the AQHA Hall of Fame as a thoroughbred.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_07: Don't forget this.
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  SPEAKER_07: This is kind of why it's kind of an amazing story because this thoroughbred down in Mexico was beating up on some of these really top quarter horses that came down to try to match him.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_07: And I would add, unsuccessfully, as those Americans that went down there found out very quickly why he had legendary status before he even made his way over to California to stand at Vessel Stallion Farm and to produce such great runners.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_07: Definitely here in this podcast.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_07: But also on the podcast, we have some really great races to recap, including the Golden State Million out there at Los Alamitas in the recap section, and then me and Yancey go over and look at some of the top runners going into the trials for the Texas Classic Faturity, the Derby, as well as the Oaks.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_07: The All-American Oaks winner is in the Oaks trials as well as the All-American Faturity winner is in the Faturity Trials.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_07: And we touch upon it and discuss it in the previous section, so a lot to get to.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_07: So let me get out of the way here and get to the commercial so we can get into our featured section with our guest Steve Rothbloom as we go over this historic story of the match race between Bedwino and Cum6.
• 3:11
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  SPEAKER_02: Alright, back to the show.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, a quick history lesson to bring those listeners up to speed on this week's topic, which is Steve Rothbloom's account of the story of the famed match race between the legendary Bedwino and the US Challenger Cum6.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: Quick facts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Bedouino was a thoroughbred who stood his stallion career at the famed Vessel's Stallion Farm in California, producing such standout runners as a sire as AQHA Hall of Fame member's Indigo Illusion, who was a winner of the Grade 1 Vessel's Maturity, Grade 1 Rainbow Derby, the Faberger Special Effort Futurity, and the Grade 3 Los Ninias Handicap.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: And he also sired AQHA Hall of Famer Chicks Beduino, who won the Grade 1 Bay Meadows Futurity, and then went to Los Alamitos and won the Grade 1 Governor's Cup Futurity before becoming a leading sire.
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  SPEAKER_02: Beduino himself was a sprinting thoroughbred stallion born in Mexico and was sired by Romani Royal, and was ridden by Jockey Manuel Zavala and owned by Justo Fernandez Sr.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_02: Legend has it that he was being touted as one of the fastest horses in the world at the time, certainly the fastest in Mexico, regardless of the breed, who had faced off against several quarter horses prior to the showdown arranged with the connections of Cum6, that is at the center of our story today.
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  SPEAKER_02: In all 13 of his starts in recognized racing, in the chart he had led the field into the first turn, but legend has it that he was running so hard and fast that his momentum would frequently cause him to blow the turn to the outside rail.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_02: His owner reportedly knew that this stone-cold speedster was better suited to run straights in quarter horse racing, but unfortunately, thoroughbreds were no longer allowed to enter official quarter horse races during that era.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_02: Now, the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_02: invader Cum6 himself was also paving his way as one of the top runners in 1973.
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  SPEAKER_02: Born in 1969 by the sire Azure Tay, Cum6 was a three-time AQHA racing champion and had won several stakes races, including the World's Championship Stakes at Riadosa, and was the reigning AQHA racing champion aged Gelding at the time.
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  SPEAKER_02: He also was second to Mr.
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  SPEAKER_02: Kid Charge in the 1971 All-American Futurity.
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  SPEAKER_02: He was owned by Mildred Rowe as she was approached about the possible match race, and she agreed to the conditions.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: According to longtime horseman Steve Rothbloom, who happens to be our special guest this week, trainer Bubba Werner asked him to accompany Cum6, along with regular rider Luke Miles, the groom, the horseshoe, and their own headman in the starting gate down to Mexico.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_02: All paid for by Justo Fernandez to make this match race against Cum6 and Bedouino a thing of legend.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_02: The famed match race happened in February of 1974.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was a$100,000 winner-take-all match race that attracted more than 50,000 spectators to the Mexico City racetrack Hippodromo de los Americans.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_02: And so now you at least have a running start going into this discussion with Horseman Steve Rothbloom.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_07: All right, on the phone with Steve Rothbloom.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, thanks so very much for joining us here on the Quarter Horse Racing Weekly podcast to talk about one of the legendary sport stories in the sport of the celebrated match race between CumSix and Bedwino down in Mexico.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_07: But before we get into that, Steve, kind of give us your basis as it pertains to how did Steve Rothbloom come into getting into the mix of this story of Cum Six and Budduino?
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, number one, Ronnie Banks was my best friend and mentor.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um I was going to college and I'd I'd worked at the racetrack since I was 15 years old during the summers as a groom for Gary Sherlock or Reed Christensen.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: And Ronnie kind of adopted me.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: So we became best friends.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: And when I started training, we roomed together everywhere we ran.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but at this time it was uh 1972, uh, and I was at the track, and there was a horse called Shawari, who was a pretty nice kind of horse.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: And Beduino had been beating up on a lot of Mexican horses, and Ronnie'd heard about them.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: And he and Charlie Smith decided to take Shawari down and and run at this Mexican super horse, so confident that they'd win.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they ran the first time going a quarter of a mile.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: Beduino beat him.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: They came back, we said uh Charlie and Ronnie said it wasn't far enough, so they ran 550.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: Badwino outran him farther.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they came home with the tail between their legs, and they said, we really need a super horse, you know, uh honest to goodness, you know, good stakehorse.
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  SPEAKER_01: So cum six, Bubba Werner was a very good friend of mine, and he had cum six, who was the champion age gelding.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was a very you second in the all-American, just barely beat.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was a top quality horse.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we talked to uh, I think it was Mildred Rowe, was her name, the owner, and Justo Fernandez had offered, since he'd outrun us a couple of times, he said, if you'll come down, I will pay all expenses, horse, and I'll put up$50,000, winner take all.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was hard to turn down.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_07: So, Steve, for the listeners that don't know who Ronnie Banks is, explain who Ronnie Banks was to the quarter horse racing world.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: Ronnie Banks was one of the all-time great jockeys.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, his family had been in horse racing.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: His dad, Ralph Banks, was a champion jockey and trainer.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: His brother Daryl was a very good jockey.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Ronnie was as good as it gets.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: And a gentleman, he was a member of the jocks guild, a representative for them.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um just uh a super guy and rode well from the from the early days of quarter horse racing on, and he was always great.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, the other question is is with most of the big names happening in either Riyodoso or Los Alamitas, all those racetracks that were throwing some of these bigger runners, how did we know about a thoroughbred down in Mexico that was beating up on all these quarter horses?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_07: How was the knowledge of Bduino out there?
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, because we match raced a lot.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've led horses across the Rio Grande at midnight to cross the border illegally to match race.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: And we go to Juarez and match race right down the middle of the street in Juarez.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we go to Mexico City where uh uh Juan Pepe and Jose Diaz, who owned Cafe Compate and Superior Beer, uh carved a match track in the middle of their land, and we bought them a starting gate and just kept sending horses to them.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: And we go down and match them.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um Ronnie'd ride a lot.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um some funny stories about all those races, but you could see when you went to the races, there'd be uh outside two fences with a fence right down the middle, a rail.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: So when you broke, you had to, you know, you were in your path.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: There was no interfering.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I saw this, I was pretty wide-eyed, and we matched a bunch of times all over Mexico, and of course, Beduino was a legend, and uh we just kept hearing about him, and that's when Ronnie decided, well, Shah Wari, we bought him and you know, beat some some other match horses, uh, and he was an honest to goodness good horse.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, when he hooked Bedwino, there was just no contest, so that's kind of uh how it led up to it.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_01: He was kind of uh, I mean, he was that gray Mexican superstar.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, when you finally put eyes on him, what did you think of him?
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: At that point, I had only seen him from afar.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: When we went to Mexico, and I got to see him for the first time, up close and personal.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: My jaw dropped.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: He uh came out on the racetrack walking on his back legs.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: He looked like the black stallion in gray, you know, just an unbelievable sight, an imposing individual.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I turned to Ronnie and I went, uh-oh.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_07: Steve kind of set the scene of the build-up, the the getting the horse down there.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_07: I know there was quite the story that goes circles around getting the horse to Mexico.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: So the horse was at La Salle, and um Bubba asked me if I would take control of getting him down to Mexico and overseeing everything.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: I told him I'd be happy to.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: The flight was was crazy.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: We flew out of Pomona.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: The original plane that we had, uh DC-7 was wind edged, so the freight company changed planes and it was a D DC-3.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: We had to get a cattle ramp to load him onto the plane.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: We had to bolt in a shipping stall.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we put a crash helmet on Cum 6, and he couldn't stand completely straight up for the flight because his head would hit the ceiling.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: And we put a row of six chairs behind him, and it was myself, uh Dick McCall, the blacksmith, James Forster, who was an assistant for Bubba, um uh Don, what was his last name?
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh headman for this starting gate.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: He was starter at La Salle.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we brought our own team and we flew down.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: And when we stopped in Mexicali, evidently the airplane company had not changed the numbers and told them.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I got up and I opened up the the door of the airplane and looked out, and we were surrounded by Federalis on one knee with machine guns pointed at the plane.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean a hundred of them.
• 14:29
  unknown: Wow.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I closed the door.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: I looked out, I went, Oh shit, I closed the door and I turned around.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: I said, guys, this doesn't look right.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I said, let me handle it.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I got down, I went to talk to them.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: They immediately arrested me, put me in handcuffs, and brought me down to the military prison.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, May I have one phone call?
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: They yeah, they let me have one.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: I called Justo Fernandes in Mexico City.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: I said, Justo, this is Steve.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: We landed here in Mexicali with Cum6, and I'm in um I'm in the military prison down here.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: He said, put them on the phone, put them on the phone, and all the guy kept saying was, sí senor, si senor, si senor, si senor, si senor.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden I was I was like the president of the United States.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: They bought all this food, brought me back to the plane, fed everybody.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: Couldn't have been better, and apologized, and off we went to Mexico City.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we landed in Mexico City.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have any way to unload the horse, so they got a forklift with a box on it, and they lifted the forklift up and I led him off, and I stood in the box with him as they lowered it to the ground, led him off, and got him in the trailer and went to the Hippodrome de las Americas.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: And because of the rough trip and the layover we had, uh Justo said we could put it off for however long you want.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: And uh he said, You just make yourselves at home.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we did, we brought cum six the track, and he couldn't have been doing better.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: And so day of the race, we had brought our, like I said, our own headband, and we brought our own springs for the starting gate.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: So we changed the springs on the front of the gate.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_07: How many times did you guys go out to the track and and talk about cum six leading up to the race?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know, it was kind of up to Bubba.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: He was the trainer, and you know, he said, Bubba, just you know, you let us know.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: And Luke Miles, his rider, was there and Luke galloped him.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we only galloped him two or three days.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was sitting on edge, and Bubba and Luke and everybody agreed the horse was a hundred percent.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: And um, so we went right along the scheduled.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: It was a Sunday in February, I remember.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: There had to be 50,000, 60,000 people show up at the track for a match race.
• 16:58
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• 17:02
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• 18:02
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• 18:04
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• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: All right, back to the show.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, trying to set the scene for 1974 there in Mexico City, you had mentioned and there was reported that there was 50,000 spectators in the grandstand there at the Mexico City racetrack.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_07: Was the match race the only race on the card that day, or was it just specifically for the match race that all of those people came, or was it a big card of racing?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, that was just for the match race.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_07: Wow.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_07: So take us to the paddock, Steve, uh, about that day and and kind of describe what we what you were experiencing.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, like I said, uh it was Bedrino was a breathtaking individual.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: And and Come 6 was also, I mean, I used a top horse in the Pika condition.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: It was so exciting, and I was really kind of I was nervous.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: They paid me$7,500 to do this.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: And Housto said, Steve, if you'd like to bet, I'll give you three to one.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: You can bet all you want.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: I bet my$7,500 at three to one.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, after the race, I was dead broke.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: But uh the day of the race, I mean, in the paddock, it was just so supercharged with energy and with all the people there.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it was just amazing.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And who still could not have been more of a gentleman?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: Manuel Zavala, the jockey for Beduino, carried a whip that looked like a fishing pole.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it was about four foot long and thin, never had to uncock it.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Luke, he he couldn't have been more confident or ridden a better race when they kicked it.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: He was long gone.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: It took Bedwino a little bit to get going.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: At about 350 yards, we were daylight in front.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: At 400 yards, we're like a half a side in front.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: And Beduino just swooshed him.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, he outran him by a length of daylight easily.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_07: For those that haven't seen the race, if you go onto YouTube.com, you can actually type in Bedwino and Cum6, the match race, and it'll actually pop up.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_07: It is in Spanish, but the actual footage of the race is actually still exists there.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm sure it does.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so they went, I think, 21 and 2, 21 and 3, very fast, over a deep sandy track, which was great for us.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's what cum six loved.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it all the conditions pointed to us, and uh, we just got outrun by a superior horse.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: And to cap the story, I uh like I said, I was broke.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: I went back, I had to fly back to Bubba's ranch in New Bromfels, Texas, because that's where the plane was going.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: I stayed for a couple of weeks, came back home, and Justo Fernandez called me a couple of weeks later, and he said, Steve, I would like to, if you can set up a match race for Bedwino in the United States, we would like to run against Charger War.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: She was, of course, the reigning queen of quarter horses at the time, world champion.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um so I went to Dr.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Alard.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: I told him that we'd still was interested in bringing Bedwino for a match race, and Dr.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: Alard said, bring him on.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: So who I told Justo, yeah, Dr.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: Aladd will he'll run.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: And uh Justo said, Don't worry, I'll put up the purse money.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: He said, Steve, I want you to come down to Mexico, bring a truck and trailer.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to take Bedwino.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: I trust you to take care of my horse, and uh you'll be his trainer.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I went down to Mexico, I loaded Bedwino in a trailer, drove him up to Caliente.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: We stayed in quarantine, I think, for a week in Cal Yante, and then I Brought him up to uh stall at Los Alamedas in the first barn.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: And second day he was there, Dr.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: Award came to see him.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: When I laid him out of the stall, Dr.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: Award took one look at him and he goes, you know what?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there was no race.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: He backed out.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to work something else out.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Don and Violet Leek had a really nice mare called Chick Pat Go.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so, you know, I told him, here's 10,000.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: We just want to match, you know, we brought him all this way.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so they agreed and they got their cash.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Curly Smith was the racing secretary.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: He said, before any horse starts here, they have to have a qualifying work from the gate, 350 yards.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: So we worked Bedwino 350 yards from the gate, and he worked 17.6.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, which is unheard of at that time.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_07: For a thoroughbred, too.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_07: We're talking about that.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and go and going 350 yards.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, seriously.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: And uh he was just uh he and I had become very close friends, of course, me and Bedwino.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I stayed with him night and day for a long time, and we had the match with Chick Pet Go, and he toyed with her.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then uh Husto said, I wonder if he could stand at stud there.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Give me a give me a day.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: I went to Frank Vessels and I said, Frank, here he is.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: Would you be interested in buying half?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_01: He goes, Bet your ass.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: He called Husto, they arranged a sale.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Frank bought half of him.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: I led him from my stall over to the stallion barn at vessels, and that's when he began his stallion career.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_07: When you said you lead him over to stall, we all know where that first stall there is, they're on Los Alamitos, and to lead it out there, that clearly is not what's there now.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_07: But uh your vessel stallion farm used to be at the front of the kind of like on the right-hand side where they actually had the the Los Al Sale nowadays.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_07: Is that correct?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it well, yeah, but it covered the whole area, and there was a golf course that was on both sides of the path up and back to the track.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was it was really something.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: And to walk him to vessels, I just walked him out the front gate and down the path, you know, by the where the railroad tracks are, if they're still there.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_07: If if they are, I've never seen them before.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there used to be railroad tracks there, but I led him down the path and uh just turned in.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: And Ronnie, matter of fact, uh Ronnie Stevens was the stalli manager at Vessels at the time, and he came over and walked with me.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: And we just made the walk, it was uh maybe a three-quarters of a mile walk to the stallion barn at Vessels, and there he went.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_01: And his stallion career course, I think, kind of speaks for itself.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, became one of the legendary style stallions in quarter horse racing in the AQHA Hall of Fame, and we're talking about a thoroughbred as well.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_07: Um, Steve, talking about Beduino, with the the the overwhelming speed that this horse showed as a as a thoroughbred running up against quarter horses.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_07: I mean, explained it.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_07: We I had read in the Walter Merrick book that back in the day they used to run a lot of thoroughbreds against quarter horses going short like this, and and a lot of success was had.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_07: It's just something that we just don't hear about in the modern day.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_07: Talk about how just it was it an anomaly like like it sounds now?
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there were, of course, fast thoroughbreds, but you know, not with the gate speed of a quarter horse.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_01: And when, of course, when you time thoroughbreds, they're timed from the flagfall, which is about a 30-foot score.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: So when a thoroughbred would go 21 and 1 to the quarter, that's with a 30-foot running head start and timing then.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: When a quarter horse runs that, as soon as those gates open, the clock starts.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: So the difference is speed that you know, like between a uh a guy that runs 100 meters or 60 meters in the Olympics versus a mile rudder.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: They're both fast, but if you if you happen to run 60 yards against a sprinter, the miler has no chance.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we and we saw that with Indolto.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: We actually matched our Wari against uh a Thoroughbred, and he outran him.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, Indolto was uh champion sprinter, but not for the first quarter of a mile, you know.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: So that was a big difference.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: And Beduino just looked like a quarter horse, about a hand and a half taller than most quarter horses ever want to be.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: He was just he was big, he was powerful, um, great head and ear, the as intelligent a horse as you can be around.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: He was easy to train.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he just he was a handful.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: He uh he he liked to do it his way, but uh he was he was pretty easy to get along with.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, he's really a great chapter of my life, and it started my training career.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_07: When you mentioned that the horse came to California, Pearlie Smith was the racing secretary arranging these match races.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_07: That was those exhibition races or were those wagering races?
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, they were just exhibitions, you know.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: We ran one ran at Hollywood Park, I think the indulto race.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and and all through history there have been Barbara B, you know, tons of quarter horses running against thoroughbreds.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the quarter horse always proved superior.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they were strictly exhibition, there was no wagering.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, even when they ran Griswold uh against uh Valiant Pete at Santa Anita, uh going uh four hundred.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_07: I thought it was four furlongs, eight eight eight.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was it's a half mile, yeah.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: And uh a little far for Griswold, perfect for Valiant Pete.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_01: No competition.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: Once you go past three eighths is even a little far.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: Once you go past 550 yards, Thorbit starts to have an advantage.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll be right back after these words.
• 28:22
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• 28:25
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• 28:29
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• 28:43
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• 28:47
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• 29:09
  SPEAKER_07: They're all Riadosa Select Yearling graduates.
• 29:12
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• 29:18
  SPEAKER_05: All right, back to the show.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, if you look back at Cum6's past performances all, and you mentioned that, you know, AQHA champion Gelding and won the world champion classic out at Riadoso, but I wouldn't say he had like a an absolute past performance that mirrors somebody like our modern day superstars, like a danger or a uh or an impressive.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_07: Why was cum six the chosen one to uh go to Mexico?
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_07: Uh was it clearly he was a top horse.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_07: Uh and I know taking him over the the border has never been just the easiest thing in the world to do, but why why cum six?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, first of all, going a quarter of a mile, cum six became a much better horse.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: He was by Azure Tae of thoroughbred.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he just, you know, where a lot of quarter horses, they kind of top out at 350 or 400 and hang on.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: He was one that was running at the end.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: And to match a good horse going a quarter, they have to be running through it.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: And he just did that.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: And he was just gut tough and honest as they came.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, he uh if you if you look back on his clockings the time, he was running as fast as horses could run.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, like I say, beating top class competition.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I mean, at the time, I'm trying to think of who a better horse would be.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Hard for me to remember.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: But um, he was top class and we could get him.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_07: And he was available.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that was probably right place at the right time.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_07: Now that we're going to the subject, Steve, we don't talk about Bubba Werner enough as it pertains to the historical significance in quarter horse racing.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_07: For those that weren't there during that period of time, including myself that only hear stories on second and third hand uh hearsay, give us a snapshot of what Bubba Werner was during that period of time of quarter horse racing.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Bubba was he was a leading trainer.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: He had mito-wise dancer, come six, uh, trying to remember all the horses he had is tough.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_01: But um had a great barn at Riadoza, and when he decided to come to California, um, he brought a lot of them with him.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: He was he was an excellent horseman.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like I said, I go out and stay at his at his ranch in New Bromfels, and he had he ran such a great operation.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he had his two-year-olds broke, and as late yearlings, they're already working from the gate.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: And he, I mean, and with quarter horses, and especially to get the two-year-old runners that we needed at the time to make any money.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's where all the money was.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they had to be ready.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: And boy, after the first of the year, you could load 10 of them in a gate at his place and they'd all break straight and true and as quick as they could, and then he would weed them out from there.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and then he'd take them to get them started down to Goliad, Columbus, run them there in non-paramutual tracks to give them an out or two.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: So by the time they got to the race at Riadosa, they were experienced race horses, and uh Bubba was great at it and uh sweetheart of a guy.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: Funny, funny, funny man.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: We uh we golfed and and uh ran together, and you know, he he'd tell a lion, I'd tell a lion, then we would compliment each other's lies.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, you were painting the picture that 50,000 people were in the stand.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_07: I would imagine about f 49,820 people were there to brooding on Beduino.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_07: But one of the uh folks that did make the trip was the celebrated stuntman Evil Canivil.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_07: Tell us uh how that all came about.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Evil used to golf with us at the Los Alamedos Country Club golf course.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when we'd get done in the morning at the barn, never forget it would be Bubba Warner, Wayne Lucas, uh Evil, uh Bill Barasoff.
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_01: We'd go to the Los Alamitas coffee shop at the golf course, have breakfast, change our shoes and go out and play a round of golf.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: And Evil always came and he had his cowboy boots made into golf shoes.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_01: He was that kind of guy, uh, just a hoot to be around, and he would bet on every swing of the golf club.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: He would he'd bet on two rats in a barrel.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't matter.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: So when we were going with cum six, he says, I'm going and we're we're gonna get healthy.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think he bet 40,000, 50,000 on cum six, and uh he took a bath like the rest of us.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: But he he was there in Mexico City.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's I mean, it's tough when you live long enough, and especially when I started as young as I did, that so many of my friends and people that I grew up with in the industry were always older than me, and now they're dead.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's uh it leaves a big hole, it does.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the last one, like Danny Cardoza dying, one of my closest friends, rode hundreds of winners for me.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um talked to him day before he died, and uh every day for a month before he died.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, it's it's tough to have such great relationships, and the older you get, the you just watch them go away.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: So, and that's why it's kind of funny talking of this story because it brings back such a flood of memories.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um pretty amazing.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_07: With um mentioning Ronnie Banks as well as I asked you about to explain Bubba Werner, well, Luke Miles as well, uh as a lot of folks that we don't talk about Luke a lot, but Luke was very prominent, especially in say in the state of Oklahoma and and and also out there in uh California or in New Mexico.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_07: But tell the people about Luke Miles.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Luke Miles was a quiet gentleman, one hell of a race rider.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: He and his wife were great friends with me and my wife.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um he had a a really good style.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: He he was really uh he was like a lizard on a flat rock, if you know what I mean.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: You there's no wind resistance when he rode a horse.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: He was always really low on them.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um a pretty pretty riding style.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: And without having to be a brute, uh he coaxed a lot out of them, and and and Luke could just a really nice way of coaxing him along.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and just a smooth rider, never got shook.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um always right there.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_07: Steve, looking back and thinking about this this story of Cum6 and Bedwino, uh something that I certainly wish that we had way more information about, but absolutely appreciate you getting on and doing your recollection of painting the picture of the story that we've a lot of us have heard second and third hand through.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_07: But to have somebody that was there in the thick of things and explaining as well as divulging how things went, we certainly appreciate you doing that.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's been my pleasure.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: You've you've kind of made me think about the past and brought back a lot of memories.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, and I appreciate that too.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks a lot.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll be right back after these words.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Introducing the overwhelmingly talented stallion roster of Lazy E Ranch, a roster that includes Grade 1 Super Derby winner Big Lou, the legendary sire Corona Cartel, the number one second crop sire in the country, Cyber Monday, and one of the all-time leaders in quarter horse racing, first down Dash.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: The grade one winning, grade one producing sire, Kiss My Hawks, and his son and grade one winner himself, Kempton.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: Another top leading sire in PYC Pinch Wagon, champion aged stallion Unrelentless, and multiple grade one sire of three champions and five millionaires, Valiant Hero.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: And introducing for the 2027 breeding season the grade one winning, the Fiscal Cliff.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: All these sires standing at Lazy Ranch in Guthrie, Oklahoma.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_05: All right, back to the show.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_07: All right, we're back here looking in the previous section.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_07: I got Yancy Diamond on the phone.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_07: Yancy, we have the Texas classic Faturity Trials.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_07: Not only the Faturity is on Saturday, and the Sunday card there at Lone Star Park includes not only the Derby, but also the Oaks trials.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_07: But let's jump right into the Faturity.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_07: A great lineup of trial races.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_07: I think we have just about all of the big names in the two-year-old ranks.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_07: That's not necessarily out there in California.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_07: If they're running in here in Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana in this section, or as well as in New Mexico, they're at Lone Star Park for the Texas Classic Fraturity that night, Yancy.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, Greg, this is a great night of trials.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_08: If, like you said, if you exclude the races in California coming into this race, you have the Rainbow Futurity winner, the All-American Futurity winner, and the Heritage Place Fraternity winner all set to go in these trials.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, actually the Dash for Cash Futurity, and we can just keep going.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_07: The Dasher Cash Fraturity winners there, the TQHA Cyrus Cup Futurity, they're all lined up, ready to roll there.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_07: Let's jump right into the first race, and that's the fall classic is the Heritage Place Futurity winners.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_07: It's set to roll in the first trial race.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Greg, fall classic.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_08: Um he started off to as one of the top two-year-olds running this year to me, and then he didn't have a bad campaign at Albuquerque this summer, but it wasn't the best as well.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but he is your Heritage Place fraternity winner.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_08: Uh he brings five starts, three wins, one second, one third, so he's really did nothing wrong into this race.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_08: Um, draws the outside post position, and I really look for him to bounce back and be a top contender in these trials.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, as you mentioned, the worst he's done is third place, and that was in the all-American juvenile.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_07: He finished third, he finished second in his trial.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_07: But other than that, in those five races, he's won three out of the five.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_07: Now lead this over to race six, and of course, the headliner of all these trial events, the All-American Fraternity winner, Cowboys flying.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_08: This is the best two-year-old running this year, in my opinion.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, this horse brings three fraternity wins already under his belt into these trials.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_08: He's six for six.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_08: Um, his wins include grade one, All-American Fraternity winner.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_08: And then before that, he was first in the TK Chase Sales Fraternity, and he also won the Texas Breeders Fraternity, and this horse has just been super impressive all year.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, to do what he did in his trial to the All-American was really impressive to me.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_08: He only had 13 days in between the finals of the TK Sale fraternity and the trials of the All-American, and then on All-American Day, he really hit another gear.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, I haven't seen too many two-year-olds accelerate like he did about halfway down the stretch there.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_08: And to me, this is the top horse there is right now, and look for him to continue his dominance in these trials.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_07: On October 13th at Remington Park, he had a 220-yard workout, and he was the fastest of three that day.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_07: They had the third red meat going on at Remington, but he did turn in a 12.78, 220-yard workout, uh, said handily in the notes here.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_07: So I'm assuming this horse is ready to fire going into this big trial event for the$1 million Texas Classic Futurity.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_07: And that'll lead us over into the next one.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_07: Race 13.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_07: We have another grade one winner here showing up into the trials for the Texas Classic.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, this is El Hericano V.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_08: Um, this is your Rainbow Futurity winner.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_08: Um, he's been off since then, so he's had a little bit of a break.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_08: But he has five starts, three wins, one second, one third on the year as well.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_08: Um earlier this year, he ran second in the grade two heritage and then came and was a winner of the rainbow.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_08: Um and one thing I put down for him is he's out of leading freshman sire Golden Boy, and I look for him to be another top horse in these trials.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_07: And he also had on the same very same day over at Ross Meadows, he had a 220-yard workout himself, went in 12.10.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_07: He was the third of four that day, so but it did show in the notes he was breezing.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_07: So yet another horse working out on those days in between the last start, and of course, leading up to this Texas Classic Fraturity.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_07: Another horse that more than likely will fire a big shot there in the trials, and that'll lead us a little bit further in the card.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_07: 15 races on that night on Saturday night.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that's a lot of races in one single day.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_07: Race 14 has the dash for cash fraturity winner in it.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, JT midlife crisis.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, this horse has really did no wrong, has seven starts on the year, six wins.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_08: As you mentioned, he was a winner last time out in the grade two dash for cash fraturity.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_08: He also was a winner earlier this year in the grade three speed horse fraturity.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_08: And this is a horse that he's kind of really came into his own as we get in later into the year.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_08: He didn't start off winning or qualifying for any fraternities early, but he was always winning.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_08: He was he won his maiden race, he won an allowance race.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_08: As he kind of progressed to Tulsa and Lone Star, he's really became one of the top runners this year.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_08: And he's another one that if all things go well, I look for him to fire on trial night.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_07: In that same race, Yance, he will stay there.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_07: Roosman Crystal has to be talked about.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_07: This horse has had four starts, three wins, and one third.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_07: And that one-third was in the grade two Oklahoma Faturity.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_07: Last time out, this horse ran a huge race to win the TQHA Sire Cup Faturity, the grade two down there at Rotama Park, and really has done nothing wrong.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_07: Uh had a uh workout at Evangeline Downs on October the 20th and went in 220 in a blazing 11.42 seconds.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, it was the fastest of 13 works that day.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_07: So this horse is absolutely seems like he's.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_07: Sitting on a huge race and a huge effort going into these trials as well.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_07: And certainly this is a key race, I would imagine.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_07: Race 14 might see a couple horses make it into the field if these two horses fire the way that we know they can.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_07: All right, we'll look at the boys going in the Texas Classic Derby trials, another grade one event that night.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_07: A lot of standout horses in these trial events.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_07: Not too terribly many trials, races to get into this field of ten going for this grade one event.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_07: And uh, Yancy, there's a couple horses in there that you'd like to kind of feature.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_08: Let's start in race 10, number two, Royalist.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_08: This is one of the top three-year-olds running all year and looks to go into the breeding shed after he is done running, as he is a Colt.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, this horse has had seven starts, six wins on the year.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_08: He's won two derbies already this year, including the Dash for Cash Derby and the Rapoma Park Derby.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_08: And he also ran second in the Sam Houston Derby, so he's been the top three-old in Texas all year.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_08: And to me, he looks like he's the horse to beat going into the trials.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_07: Uh, very highly recruited this horse.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_07: I've I've heard from several farms that are certainly hoping that they can uh land this horse as a horse that's going to be standing at their farm.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_07: Of course, a huge win here in the Texas Classic will do wonders for this horse's career going into the Sud Barn.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_07: And he certainly looks like a the horse to be certainly in his trial race, and we'll see if he can make it into the field into this grade one event.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_08: And then another top horse or horse that I would like to look at is in race 12.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_08: Um, this is number four, holy guacamole.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_08: This horse is kind of my uh horse to watch.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_08: He hasn't had very many starts this year.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_08: He's only had one start, and it was in a second place finish in an allowance race earlier at Remington.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_08: But this horse last year, he was the winner of the of the grade one Texas Classic Futurity.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_08: And I really look for this horse to be strong in these trials.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_08: He's gonna be super fresh, and if he can run back to his form of the Texas Classic Fraternity, we might be saying in a couple weeks that he got the the double, the Derby and Faturity.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_07: I'll take a step back into race 11.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_07: Um JC Speeding is a horse that we've been talking about multiple times here on the show.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_07: Third place finisher in the Texas Classic Fraternity last year, the Remington Park Derby runner-up this year, the Heritage Place Derby runner-up.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_07: He's he's kind of fell off form the last three races there in the Rainbow Derby trial, the All-American Derby trial, as well as when he got into the all-American invitational stakes, ran a fifth.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_07: Certainly not up to what we were used to seeing from JC Speeding.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_07: But in this field, Yancy, he's certainly can be live here uh with such a small amount of horses trying to get into the field going into this grade one event.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_07: I I look to see a big effort from this D.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_07: Keener trainee.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, Greg, the super paint.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_08: And he did run third in the Texas Classic Fraternity last year, so uh he has run well over the racetrack.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_07: And that'll lead us over to talk about the girls going into the trials for the Texas Classic Oaks.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_07: And Yancy, as you're pointing out to me, there's a key race that you're looking at.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_07: Multiple horses lined up.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_07: This is a stacked race.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_07: There's just no other way to say it.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, race five, Greg.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_08: Uh this race has two really, really nice Phillies going into this race.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_08: Um, first she's EC to tempt.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_08: Um, this horse brings a perfect five for five on the year into this race, including it was first in the TQHA Syres derby.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_08: Almost perfect.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_08: And especially where she gets to run against just Phillies.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_08: I really look for her to be tough to beat going into these trials.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_07: And of course, in the same race, we have the All-American Oaks winner, Flying Joy one out of the barn of Trey Wood.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_07: This horse certainly is coming off a gigantic effort there in the grade one there in Albuquerque.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_07: And we were both there to to witness and watch her go down the racetrack there.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_07: Has a workout since then, went 330 yards on October the 9th, was the fastest of that day win in 16.36 seconds breezing.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_07: Yancey the Wood Barn has an affinity here for the Texas Classic, whether it be the Derby or the Oaks or the Futurity.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_07: And of course, Jockey Ricky Ramirez knows how to get to the winner circle in these big events at Lone Star Park.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_07: I know they're looking for this horse to run a huge effort here going into this Texas Classic Oaks trial.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_08: I say it every year.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, they usually always have a good year anyway.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_08: By the time the Texas Classic comes around, it's hard to beat them that weekend.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_08: They are they always have their horses ready to go and they they run super well on Texas Classic night.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_08: Another top filly going into the Oaks, Greg, is in race six, number one, Apollo Revenge.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, this is a super, super nice runner.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, she was second in the easy date earlier this year, and last year she was a winner of the Heritage Place Fraternity, and she's gonna be another one that's super fresh on the year.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_08: She hasn't ran that much.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_08: But if she's on her game, she's definitely a top runner to outrun going into these trials.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_07: A lot of talented three-year-old Phillies going, taking part in the Texas Classic Oak Trials.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_07: You can read all about it on in the racing preview section there on stallionesearch.com.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_07: And we'll be back next week to preview a lot of graded stakes of action across the country here on Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly, and me and Yance will be right back after these words.
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• 50:44
  SPEAKER_07: Alright, we're back and ready to jump in the recap section.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_07: We're going out to California for the Golden State Million Futurity, a grade one event.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_07: $1.1 million for the two-year-olds going 400 yards.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_07: And here's a call from Michael Rona.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_07: Racing!
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_09: Lightning Vacara and just loaded Luxury Syntacha and Revenantly's on the scene, strongly followed by Cartel Cowgirl 123.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_09: It's Luxury Syntacha revenantly and lightning Vacera on the outside.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_09: Lightning Vacara revenantly.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_09: Lightning Vacara! Lightning strikes twice!
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_07: Lightning Vacero gets it done, the Philly, by flying Cowboy 123 out of the Tracey Smear, She's Got Thunder, rolls down the racetrack for trainer Manny Rodriguez, with Jockey Gerardo Vera aboard for the win in a time of 19.768 seconds for Owners La Polize Montana Ranch, as this Philly was bred by Sam Green.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_07: Now we're headed out to the Midwest.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_07: Multiple stakes races happening at Horseshoe Indianapolis, including the Governor Stakes, a$326,000 event for the two-year-olds going 400 yards.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_07: And here's the call.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: Off the Governor State final.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: Valiant kiss from Post 5.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_00: Here comes TWA Political Beach past the 330.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: Charging with TWA Political Beach.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: Dangerous Carolina right there on the outside.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's Cholito who's coming with a long run into it past the 110.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: And it's Cholito.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: Cholito for Martin Munoz.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: It's Cholito.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: Cholito does it.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_07: The gelding Cholito gets it done for trainer Ricardo Martinez and jockey Martin Munoz in the Irons in a time of 19.900 seconds for the 400 yards.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_07: Bread in Texas by Jerry Wyndham.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_07: Ryan Martinez is the owner of this Chilitos gelding out of the mare, Racy Winner.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_07: And now we're going to look at state breads in the Miss Roxy Little Futurity restricted grade 3 event for$386,000.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_06: Two-year-olds going 400 yards.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: And the roll for the Miss Roxy Little Futurity final.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: Good start for all.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: Scarcity right into action, along with Keep On Rolling 1, 2, 3.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: Who's sharply away?
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: Nacho Secret right there, battling past the 220.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: And here comes Wildover Corona.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: Wild over Corona charge and keep on rolling 1-2-3.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: Nacho Secret Scarcity right there with Luis Favanco.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_00: Keep on rolling 1-2-3 has beaten Nacho Secret with Scarcity, Wild Over Corona, and Janis Solo in the Miss Roxy Little Futurity Final on Indiana Champions Day.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_06: Keep on Rollin 1-2-3 makes it two futurities in a row.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_07: For trainer Ricardo Martinez with jockey Luis Favanco aboard, who stopped the clock at 19.840 seconds for the 400 yards.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_07: For owner Whiting Ranch and Raymond Whitmeyer.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_07: For this Flying Cowboy 123 gelding out of the Lotta PYC mayor Flashy Lotta, who is bred by Whiting Ranch.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_07: Now we're going to look at the older horses going 440 yards in the Indiana Championship stakes.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_07: $111,000 on the line, and here's the call.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: They're off to the Indiana Championship stakes.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: And from that inside gain, AP Miss Luna's tied along with Kelly Girl.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: Mr.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: Michael has the Black Linkers and is coming with a charge from post three.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_00: Tatcha Secret, she's gaining.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Escondido Gold with on the outside a political wagon.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: Well inside the final 220, here she comes with Fernando Moore and Tatcha's Secret.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: Tatcha Secret hits the front.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_00: She's a state red star.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: Tatcha Secret over Kelly Girl with Kettlecking in the Indiana Championship of 2026.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_07: Tatcha Secret gets it done in a time of 21.758 seconds for trainer Ricardo Martinez and with Jockey Fernando Morin aboard for owners Duke Racing in the Marla Robinson Family Trust.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_07: As a six-year-old mayor gets to the wire, who is by habit secret out of the PYC Paint Your Wagon mirror, Sintacha's Angel, who was bred by the trainer Ricardo Martinez.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_07: And the last race to recap out at the horseshoe in Indianapolis, Indiana Championship Day is a QHRAI Derby Final.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_07: $116,000 on the line, 400 yards for the three-year-olds.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: Off the QHRAI Derby Final.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: TW Streaking Cowboy out very sharply.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: Nearest the inside.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_00: Here's WR Hotshot past the 220.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_00: WR Hotshot.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: TW Streaking Cowboy shifting in a path or two.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: Needs to keep a straight path and now does.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: With Diego Bocanegra, TW Streaking Cowboy.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_00: Alistair JD emerging.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_06: TW Streaking Cowboy for three in a row.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_06: TW Streaking Cowboy gets to the wire in front for trainer Natasha Perez.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_07: With jockey Diego Bocanegra aboard.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_07: For owner breeder Thomas Wiley in a time of 19.747 seconds.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_07: For this Flying Cowboy 123 Gelding, who is out of the Escondido Beach Mare, WH I'm a Streaken Beach.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_07: As we close things out here in the recap section, as well as for this episode of Quarter Horse Racing Talk Weekly.
• 55:48
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• 55:53
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• 56:14
  SPEAKER_07: We'll see you next week.