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- Canon Stogner: but one thing I keep seeing is Clemson fans are saying, Yeah, it's hard to compete against a fifty million dollar roster. Well, breaking news to you, you're either gonna compete and do the same thing. Or you're gonna stay with what you have been doing and you're gonna have another bad year because whether you like it or not, the transfer portal is what it is now in college football. And you can either adapt and use it like every other team is, or you can complain about it and be in your feelings about all these other teams being more expensive than you. And you can go show I mean, that was the most obvious game of a team using a transfer portal versus a team that's not Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: using a transfer portal. But I mean, I think it it's way outside of that. Clemson looked awful. They looked very underprepared. Their defense was awful. Did y'all see the video? Or it happened during the game. It was like right after LSU had like the pick six, and then Clemson goes three and out. And they showed the defensive coordinator for Clemson, Tom Allen. He's like trying to call a play and he's literally shaking. It's it's one of the funniest clips I've seen. Cause I mean, like he he genuinely looked like he was rattled. Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: And I think that was a good visual for what the whole team was going through. But I've told a lot, I mean, obviously my wife and her family's Clemson fans, I told him, I said, as bad as that game was last night, it really doesn't matter. Cause we saw how bad the ACC was this week. I mean, obviously we have Miami, Louisville look really good. We'll see SMU tonight and Virginia looked very good last week, but they really have a pretty easy schedule outside of Miami. this year. So I'd say if they can just get to the ACC championship and maybe sneak one out against Miami. I mean, you're right back there in the playoff. But they do have a long way to go. They have a lot of people that have to step up and get more comfortable playing college football. but that was my takeaway. What do you have, Will? Will Morris: Yeah, I mean this was this was a splattering to use to use Josh Pate language. it was it was as bad as it could get. I mean I like seriously if you try to imagine worst case scenario if you're a Clemson fan, you go to bed Saturday night and you have a nightmare that night. You just wake up you just woke up and you just replayed that nightmare in real life. I mean they got outgained by five hundred yards on offense. They were one for thirteen on third down. They didn't have a rushing yard, they didn't have a positive rushing yard until the last drive. Canon Stogner: Yeah. Will Morris: so I mean this was this was as bad as it can go. And I I hear what you're saying about the ACC. and I think there are there there's kind of two ways that this could go. Me and me and Andrew are talking about this off the air. one way that this could go if you're a Clemson fan is LSU just is one of the best three teams in the country. Their defense is suffocating, their offense, Sam Levitt, they're just rocking and rolling. That could be kind of one way, and if that's the case, then you actually have a chance to still go maybe go make a run at the ACC championship. Get to Charlotte. The other way this goes is this LSU just kinda is what we thought they are. Like, right, top ten, top fifteen team, but they're not like in the echelon of Ohio State, what what we thought was Oregon and and Notre Dame. We'll we'll talk about that a little later. But they're but they're not at the top. And if that's the case and you're a Clemson fan, then you you start looking at that schedule. You got Miami, you have to go two Cal in a couple weeks. I mean, it's hard to start chalking up games where you look and you say, I feel comfortable counting that as a win. so we'll see. Again it's week one. it did go as bad as possible. So we we still have a lot to learn about every team, but if you're a Clemson fan, you have to be really, really uncomfortable looking at looking at the rest of the schedule, I think. Canon Stogner: Yeah. Andrew. Andrew Wright: My biggest thing, kind of guess, biggest takeaway for them is kind of my concern I had about them before the season started. I don't think they have a quarterback. I don't think they have a quarterback. And I know that's a very tough ask for Brazina's first career start on the road to be at LSU at night. That's a very tough place to go play, but he looked pitiful. And Canon Stogner: Uh-huh. Andrew Wright: me and Will, something else we were talking about, I thought it was insane that we saw Tate Riddle come in right in the first half and everybody was like, all right, like Brazina had his chance. He's done for the night. They will get him out of there. Like don't embarrass yourself anymore. I thought it was like almost coaching malpractice. They put him back in the game. I just, don't understand that thinking like just, just get him out of there. Let's take play the second half. The game's over. Just let your kid play the game. Kind of see what he's got. And then you can kind of go back to the drawing board next week before you play Georgia Southern, but that they don't have a quarterback. Like you're gonna, you're gonna have to have one and like a lot of season left and they'll have, they have their get right game next week. And that'll be a good chance for both of those guys, one of them to kind of step up and take the reins. But as long as that team doesn't have a quarterback, they're not gonna win anything. It doesn't matter how bad the ACC is, how low we view that, they're not gonna win anything without a quarterback. So they have to get that figured out quickly. Canon Stogner: Yeah, and listen, I could go on a tangent about Clemson and I might do it. I'm going to actually. There they're I mean, I'm just going if you look at her TikToks about Clemson, our comment section, and just hearing from a lot of people, I see a l I get a lot of Clemson stuff like on my feed and stuff, Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: on social media. All of them talk about how good their wide receiver core is. all of them talk about how good their defense is going to be under their defensive coordinator. They brought in Tom Allen. Last year, his first year was with Clemson. He came from Penn State. He was one of the top DCs in the country. They brought in Garrett Riley two years ago. One of the he was probably the top OC in the country. So they have Dabo Sweeney, who's a Hall of Famer, one of the best coaches in college football. Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: And they have two coordinators, and this is last year. And they go seven and five. Okay, so this year they fired. Garrett Riley. They still obviously have Tom Allen at DC. They bring in Chad Morris. That was the worst offense I've ever seen. They Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: had no plan. They barely ran the ball at all in the first half, which I was shocked about. I don't care if the scores 10 to 3, 17 to 3, whatever the score was. The pass game was obviously not working. And that defensive Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: line and the linebackers and Blake Baker were feeding. I mean, they were Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: hot. There was nothing they could do wrong and they were fooling the crap out of Vasina. I thought it was coaching malpractice to put Vizina in that position. I mean, they immediately went to the passing game and were like, Let's see Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Canon Stogner: what you can do. And he obviously couldn't do much. So I think they shot their confidence. I mean, you he's been the QB one since spring practice of last year Andrew Wright: you Canon Stogner: and you bench him in the first half. So Andrew Wright: Yeah, crazy. Canon Stogner: I mean, there was a lot to say, but I tried to tell people I was like, they lost their top tackle, Blake Miller. They lost two or three offensive linemen. And all I've heard from these people are they are they're young and like their offensive line is very young and they looked young. They looked really bad. The offensive line was terrible. and my but my biggest question was. the defense looked awful. I mean, Sam Levitt was running all over them. They were mocking them. He wasn't sliding at all, which I do think Sam Levitt's gonna get hurt if he doesn't start Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: sliding. Because he was getting hit a couple of times, but I mean he was running wide open. He was carrying the ball like a loaf of bread a couple of times. That could cause Clemson or LSU, but yeah, I mean they dominated Clemson. And I think all you hear about with LSU is When you hear Lane Kiffin and you hear Charlie Weiss, all you think about is their offense, how good Lane Kiffin's offense is. But we sat on here, and I know all three of us know it, but we sat on here, we were like, their defense is really good, and they showed it. I think a lot of people Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: if they weren't already, they're very like scared of LSU now. I mean, they're gonna come Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: in and dominate most of the SEC at least. Will Morris: But what I will say is I think one of the biggest takeaways for me from the game was just the caliber of athlete just did not seem to be the same from one team to another. LSU looked fast. Like Canon Stogner: yeah. Will Morris: way it looked like Clemson was running in slow motion. And it was at every level. It was on the line. It was a the mid part of the defense of linebackers, what weeks was running everywhere, the secondary I mean it just looked like Even even the like even the two best receivers for for Clemson, more I mean they just the the secondary just looked like they were suffocating him. And I don't Canon Stogner: Mm-hmm. Will Morris: know if that was more a result of the quarterback just couldn't get it to him and they were getting open and we just couldn't tell. But yeah, I just think LSU just looked very, very athletic. Like, you know, coming into the season, I think you think Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, and Notre Dame. Like that those are kind of your four like talent wise, you know, and I know that that seems stupid now, but at least for me, that's what I was, you know, coming into the season looking, dude. And LSU look like they ought to be right up in there. I mean, they look like Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Will Morris: they ought to be in that conversation. Maybe, maybe, you know, even up there with like Texas. So we'll see. It's it's early. Canon Stogner: Yeah, I can't I can't believe Charlie Weiss doesn't have a head coaching job yet. Andrew Wright: Yeah. Canon Stogner: How has somebody not in college football not said, All right, well, let's get this Charlie Weiss guy away from Lane Kiffin? Because Andrew Wright: Yeah. Canon Stogner: Lane Kiffin doesn't even call plays anymore. He just they were saying on during the game that he just has his headset on and he listens to the play call. And if he doesn't like it or wants to do something out of that, he'll say something. But Charlie Weiss calls all the plays. And I mean you kinda we can talk about Ole Miss later, but I mean Ole Miss in the first half didn't look like a Charlie Weiss offense. Andrew Wright: Mm-mm. Canon Stogner: second half they obviously turned it up, but it was interesting. A n last thing about Clemson, I was listening to Game Day the morning of the game Saturday, and Dabo one of the things Dabo said was, I've seen my team practice, like I know what we've got. They just got to go out there and do it now. And then he also said, We're more experienced than any years we have been in the past. And I was like and I was kind of thinking, I'm like, Are you? 'Cause your quarterback is not experienced. You had nine guys drafted last year. Your starting defensive tackle. Vic Burley, he's suspended 'cause he got arrested. So are you more experienced or are you just trying Andrew Wright: Yeah. Canon Stogner: to come up with things to Will Morris: I would have thought last year he could have said that, but certainly not this year. Canon Stogner: Yeah. Yeah, Andrew Wright: Yeah. Canon Stogner: I was I was genuinely shocked. I thought maybe like they used a quote from last year, but no. No, they didn't. and then this is another little thing and I the game got so hard to watch. Of course I did watch all of it. but the game got so hard to watch, I started looking out for this little thing. And with one minute and twenty seconds left in the third quarter, LSU's backup QB was in and he scrambled. And Sammy Brown had a tackle. And the reason I'm saying all of this is I started watching midway through the second quarter. Sammy Brown is their starting linebacker who a lot of people he's a former five star. A lot of people thought he was gonna take over the defense. He's gonna be the captain and they lost a lot of players last year. He's the he's the guy this year. And he did not have a grass day on his jersey or on his pants until a minute twenty left in the third quarter when he had a like a three yard or three yard gain by the quarterback. And I I was just watching cause I was like, how is your how is your guy playing on real grass where I mean the grass is gonna stain your pants, especially when you're wearing white pants and he doesn't have a stain. Will Morris: Yeah, right. Canon Stogner: And it rained and Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: they also had 350 rushing yards during this moment. And so I'm like, how? 'Cause I mean, if you look up the other side, Whit Weeks all over the field, like you said. Andrew Wright: Yeah. Canon Stogner: I mean, he was dominating. He had probably ten tackles. I haven't looked at the box score, but he had probably ten tackles. And I mean, he was he looked like a filthy mess. So, I mean, that's your starting linebacker, and it looked like he wa he just came into the game whenever he tackled Andrew Wright: Mm-hmm. Canon Stogner: that quarterback. so it was interesting. It was a blowout by LSU,