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137. [Kentucky] Amanda Ross · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless this Mess in the True Podcast.
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Speaker 1: I don't care who was Dusa haystuhy. All right, we're
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Speaker 1: back this week and we are covering an episode out
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Speaker 1: of Kentucky. No, a case out of Kentucky. It was
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Speaker 1: a it was a very strange case that I caught
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Speaker 1: watching True Crime with Aphrodity Jones. So we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: covering that. It's about a senator who lost his marbles.
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Speaker 2: To was congressman lost his marbles?
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Speaker 1: No, he was a Kentucky State senator.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what season? What episode and season was this?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Stuart, Why would you ask me? Why
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Speaker 1: don't you do some research? All you have to just
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Speaker 1: find out what episode?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing research. I'm asking a question, you're asking me, Yes,
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Speaker 2: that's my research. All right.
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Speaker 1: So back to the case. It is out of Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: We haven't been to Kentucky in a while.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: They don't cover a lot of stuff that's out of Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: It seems like there's just Bardstown.
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Speaker 1: Bardstown is all you all y'all got out There is Bartstown,
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Speaker 1: the case that just keeps on giving. So yeah, we're
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Speaker 1: so let's go ahead and get into our case out
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Speaker 1: of Kentucky. So we start in lexing Kinton, Kentuck. Good lord, Kentucky,
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Speaker 1: look up.
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Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I'm not Pensentucky. I was thinking of.
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Speaker 2: That Tony fella.
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Speaker 1: No, Pensentucky you know on the Orange is the New Black?
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Speaker 2: No, what that was like twenty years ago?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyways, in Lexington, Kentucky, on September eleventh,
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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, around six am, twenty nine year
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Speaker 1: old Amanda Ross is walking to her car at her
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Speaker 1: apartment complex. Now, Amanda worked at the State Department of Insurance.
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Speaker 1: Didn't know that was a thing, but it's a thing. Yes,
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Speaker 1: State Department of Insurance.
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Speaker 2: The Virginia State Department of Insurance.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I mean like the state department. So it'd
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Speaker 1: be the Kentucky State Department of Insurance.
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Speaker 2: Yes' not the State Department of I can't think of
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Speaker 2: That is.
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Speaker 3: So weird, like such a weird place to work.
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Speaker 1: Why would they name it like something that state?
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Speaker 2: It has one?
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Speaker 1: Anyways, Okay, it makes more sense if you put Kentucky
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Speaker 1: State Department of Insurance and you put like a little
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Speaker 1: bit of a pause between. Okay. So she had aspirations
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Speaker 1: to work in politics, and this job was kind of
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Speaker 1: her foot in the door. Suddenly there are gun shots
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Speaker 1: heard and Amanda lay on the asphalt. A detectives arrive
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Speaker 1: at the scene after witnesses called police after hearing those gunshots.
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Speaker 1: Now she is rushed to the hospital and pronounced dead.
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Speaker 1: Now at the crime scene, they find her purse with
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Speaker 1: her BlackBerry iPhone, a handgun, and everything else was still there,
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Speaker 1: so robbery was quickly ruled out. Another interesting item in
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Speaker 1: her purse was a paper for a protective order, and
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Speaker 1: they quickly learned that she was in a domestic violence
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Speaker 1: situation and that is why she was carrying that handgun. Now,
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Speaker 1: as they are falling up on leads from Amanda's murder,
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Speaker 1: they receive another tip stew Yes, Now, this one is
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Speaker 1: about a man in a cemetery out in Horse Cave, Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: Horse Cave, Yeah, familiar. No, Now, this is about two
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Speaker 1: hours away from Lexington where Amanda was murdered. Now, someone
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Speaker 1: saw a fanny pack covered in blood, a knife, and
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Speaker 1: a man with a handgun. Well, police arrive on the
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Speaker 1: scene and they do find that man. He is drunk.
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Speaker 1: He's waving around a thirty eight. He's telling police that
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Speaker 1: he's going to try to kill himself, and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden he shoots the gun and then falls to
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Speaker 1: the ground.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like something out of a movie. I know.
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Speaker 1: I told you this is like some of these ID
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Speaker 1: channel like Discovery, ID Network, they have like the craziest
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Speaker 1: like Dayline don't really cover crazy shit like this, you know,
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Speaker 1: They're like, we're gonna find some crazy shit. And so
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Speaker 1: these I do like those shows because they do they
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Speaker 1: have interesting, like just weird things that you wouldn't that
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Speaker 1: you couldn't make up, you know. So they think he
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Speaker 1: has killed himself because he said I'm gonna kill myself
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Speaker 1: and then he shoots a gun off and fell to
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Speaker 1: the ground. So they run over there and he is
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Speaker 1: not dead.
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Speaker 2: Not dead, no, not even shot no.
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Speaker 1: So the blood all over him is actually from where
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Speaker 1: he tried to cut his wrists. They can see it
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Speaker 1: coming out of his wrist. And when he shot the gun,
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Speaker 1: he just kind of shot it into the air. He
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Speaker 1: didn't actually kill himsel like shoot at himself. He just
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Speaker 1: kind of I guess, maybe up by his head. So
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Speaker 1: they notice he is near a set of graves, and
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Speaker 1: the graves belong to the Nun family, specifically the grave
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Speaker 1: of Louis B. Nunn, who's the former governor of Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: You shut up.
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Speaker 1: I know it's getting interesting already. Are you on the
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Speaker 1: edge of your seat? I am good because it's your turn.
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Speaker 2: Please quickly find out the identity there man, man, I
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Speaker 2: can't read either. What the hell is going on?
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's because you made fun of me?
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Speaker 2: So this is what Kara? Kara? You don't believe Kara?
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Speaker 1: What do you mean? I don't believe in karma?
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Speaker 2: You don't believe in Kara's jinx? You no, I got
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Speaker 2: a cat named Jenks.
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Speaker 1: Well no, if I believed in jinxes, most people wouldn't
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Speaker 1: get a black cat.
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Speaker 2: I think they're.
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Speaker 1: Okay. Well, whatever you read, bad, you smile bad. Probably
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Speaker 1: to take a shower.
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Speaker 2: Police quickly find out the identity of the man. His
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Speaker 2: name is Steve Nunn. Steve is the fifty six year
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Speaker 2: old son of Louis, and he is also the man
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Speaker 2: listed on Amanda's protective order. Steve was a prominent figure
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Speaker 2: came together it is He was prominent figure following in
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Speaker 2: his father's footsteps. He was elected to be as a
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Speaker 2: state representative in Kentucky and had formerly ran for the
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Speaker 2: governorship Steve was arrested on gun charges. To get him
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Speaker 2: in jail while they figured out his involvement with Amanda's murder,
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Speaker 2: they took his car into evidence and they found a
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Speaker 2: Manila envelope with a seven page rant on how the
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Speaker 2: world was unfair to him and that they were out
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Speaker 2: to get him, and how he blamed Amanda for most
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Speaker 2: all of his problems and he wanted revenge.
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Speaker 1: So it's pretty clear cut.
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Speaker 2: Yes, end, that was our case for this week. They
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Speaker 2: learn that Amanda was Steve's former fiance, and just three
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Speaker 2: days later, using the letter and ballistic evidence at the
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Speaker 2: crime scene, they charged Steve with the murder of Amanda.
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Speaker 1: All right, this is where in the episode that we
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Speaker 1: do the.
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Speaker 3: No the pause.
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Speaker 1: You say, I'm sure you're wondering how we got here,
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Speaker 1: you know that, like the Saved by the Bell where
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Speaker 1: everybody pauses in the background.
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Speaker 2: No. No, I'm used to the different into the past.
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Speaker 1: Like the Twilight Zone. No Oh, anyway, so we go
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Speaker 1: back twenty years because we need to figure out how
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Speaker 1: we got here. It didn't just we didn't just roll
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Speaker 1: up on here and someone's drunk in a in a
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Speaker 1: cemetery and you know, murdering people. So we go back
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Speaker 1: twenty years to try to and we learn a little
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Speaker 1: more about Steve and his life growing up. Now, Steve
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Speaker 1: grew up in the limelight. As you can imagine, he
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Speaker 1: was a good looking kid. They kept telling they kept
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Speaker 1: saying it as he was older when he was running
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Speaker 1: for stuff, that he was like a good looking guy.
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Speaker 1: He was not a good looking guy when he was older.
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Speaker 1: I'm no, he was not.
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Speaker 2: Fuck he fell out of the ugly tree and had
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Speaker 2: at least five or six branches.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he was that ugly,
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Speaker 1: but he was not. I would not classify him as
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Speaker 1: good a good looking politicians. Yeah, so anyway, So but
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Speaker 1: as a kid, he was good looking or better looking.
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Speaker 1: And his dad's you know, prominent governor who was very popular,
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Speaker 1: and so he did get quite a bit of attention.
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Speaker 1: And he had this last name that everybody in Kentucky knew,
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Speaker 1: and so Steve he grew up going to like fancy
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Speaker 1: parties and being recognized as part of this family, probably
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Speaker 1: getting his way a lot with stuff and everything. Despite
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Speaker 1: all this, though, they did say he was a nice
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Speaker 1: He was a generally like nice person.
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Speaker 2: He wasn't respectfully, young man.
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Speaker 1: Yes. So in nineteen ninety one, Steve decides to move
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Speaker 1: into the political world where he is elected as a
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Speaker 1: state represent representative. So he that's when he's done the
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Speaker 1: Kentucky Senate.
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Speaker 2: Stewart, it sounds like his state rep.
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Speaker 1: Not a senator, No, I think he No, he's a
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Speaker 1: I thought he was a senator in the Kentucky Senate.
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Speaker 1: He's a senator. I probably just put that, Stewart, Okay, Now,
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Speaker 1: why do you have to argue with me.
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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what you wrote.
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Speaker 1: He was a senator, Okay. I later wrote senator, which
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Speaker 1: is what he was. Oh, but I put he serves
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Speaker 1: in the house.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Stu. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I had to write my my.
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Speaker 2: Work, like I hope you did it better than you
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Speaker 2: wrote this.
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Speaker 1: Where I work, we have to write our own pat
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Speaker 1: on the back, our own de It's called like, uh,
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Speaker 1: what is it? But you're like your annual review or whatever.
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Speaker 1: So you have to write your coming I word for
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Speaker 1: is weird. So you have to write your own So
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Speaker 1: I had to spend like four hours today because I
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Speaker 1: have to get it. I had to get it done today.
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Speaker 1: So I spent like four hours today writing, telling every
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Speaker 1: like typing up out how great I am. And yes,
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Speaker 1: it's a very weird system. I'm not going to go
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Speaker 1: into it. But anyway, so yeah, i'd fried my brain.
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Speaker 1: So yes, I did reread my thing because it is
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Speaker 1: work like several times.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that you didn't like you did this.
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Speaker 1: I don't know it could I've got I got a
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Speaker 1: meet in the morning with my boss and he'll probably
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Speaker 1: be like, what's what the fuck.
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Speaker 3: You were trying to say here? I'll be like, sorry,
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Speaker 3: is the draft.
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Speaker 1: Anyway? So they so he ends up in the Senate
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Speaker 1: or the House one or the other, one or the
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Speaker 1: other for the next fifteen years. And they talk about
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Speaker 1: him being like a compassionate person and you know, wanting
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Speaker 1: to help out with the underprivileged like his father. His
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Speaker 1: dad was no own kind of for his policies where
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Speaker 1: he would you know, start public programs and this included
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Speaker 1: public television and other programs to help the underprivilege. Now,
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Speaker 1: Louis was wonderful in the public's eye, like I said,
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Speaker 1: very popular governor. However, behind the scenes he was known
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Speaker 1: to be very tough, very critical. I mean, I'm assuming
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Speaker 1: most politicians behind the scenes, if you if you're rising
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Speaker 1: to that level or whatever, you're probably not the I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say you're one hundred percent nice behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: You gotta be a little cutthroat, you know, you.
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Speaker 2: Gotta be a little cutthroat. You gotta discipline your children
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Speaker 2: and can't be like patting him on the back smiling. Oh,
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Speaker 2: he's such a great kid. He's a little shit sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Then I gotta no, that is not you're reading the
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Speaker 1: room wrongs due you would just wait till critical of
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Speaker 1: his he's Oh, he's overly critical. He's one of these
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Speaker 1: dads that's never happy, always disappointed. It's never enough. And
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Speaker 1: Steve was getting the brunt.
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Speaker 2: Of that, like he's got the Kero syndrome.
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Speaker 1: Oh, shut up, stew that's only for you. Wow, Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's only my critique of you. So Steve worked hard
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Speaker 1: to win his father's approval, but he just couldn't seem
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Speaker 1: to do it. No matter what he did. He was
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Speaker 1: just really critical of him, never going to say he
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Speaker 1: was proud of him. But it was all very ironic
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Speaker 1: because old Daddy Louis was hiding some secrets of his
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Speaker 1: own from the public. Now he had several mistresses. Stu
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Speaker 1: really and now the family all knew about this, including
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Speaker 1: his wife Beulah, and she tolerated it for years. But
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Speaker 1: as she was getting older, she was getting tired of
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Speaker 1: this disrespect because a lot of people said the reason
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Speaker 1: that he was governor is because she was behind him.
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Speaker 1: You know, there's usually like a strong wife behind these
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Speaker 1: politicians that make it up. And she was that.
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Speaker 2: Strong wife that ken all the secrets.
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Speaker 1: Keeping the secrets, helping run all the chaos behind the scenes,
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Speaker 1: presenting as this nice couple and everything. They had their
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Speaker 1: one child together, all that stuff. So she's getting tired
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Speaker 1: of this disrespect and like because it was at the
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Speaker 1: point where he was even taking the mistress's calls at
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Speaker 1: during dinner and he'd like get up front with Beulah
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Speaker 1: and Steve and just leave the table be like, hey, baby,
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Speaker 1: may just be calling, you know. Yeah, So it was
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Speaker 1: getting out of hand. He was way too I mean,
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Speaker 1: at least try to hide your mistresses, I guess, out
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Speaker 1: of respect for your wife. So Beulah, she actually becomes
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Speaker 1: sick with cancer and tensions continue to rise in the household,
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Speaker 1: causing a division with Steve because he or with Steve
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Speaker 1: and his father because Steve decided to side with his mother. Now,
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Speaker 1: unlike his father, Steve's mother adored him and always praised him,
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Speaker 1: so it was no surprise that he took her side.
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Speaker 1: She just was always coming up and saying, you know what,
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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, even though your dad sucks or whatever.
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Speaker 2: It's a dick.
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Speaker 1: Now. All this tension and all this stuff going on
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Speaker 1: in the house all came to a head one night
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Speaker 1: when Steve got into it with his dad over him
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Speaker 1: his mom and actually punched him. And that is when
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Speaker 1: Louis gave Beulah an ultimatum to either choose him or
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Speaker 1: choose her son. And guess who she chose, who her son.
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Speaker 1: So Louie moves out that night, and Beulah f filed
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Speaker 1: for a divorce. So this is after he's not governor anymore,
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Speaker 1: so he can get a little missy you know out there.
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Speaker 1: Steve stepped into the role as caregiver for his mother
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Speaker 1: and he was by her side until she passed away.
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Speaker 2: With the fall of the family from grace, Steve was
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Speaker 2: still working his way in the political world when he
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Speaker 2: met Tracy.
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Speaker 1: Damren Damren, damnit dam they never pronounced her last name.
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Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety five. Tracy was from a very wealthy
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Speaker 2: family and would be a perfect match for someone like
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Speaker 2: Steve and his political aspirations.
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Speaker 1: Yes apparently, Okay, when I saw her on the show,
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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this bitch has got some money,
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Speaker 1: because she was she was kinda she looked real, like
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Speaker 1: her skins and everything real pretty and everything all put together.
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Speaker 1: But she was quirky though. But it's like a quirky
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Speaker 1: that you're like, oh, you have money, because you know,
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Speaker 1: it's quirky if you're eccentric, if you're rich, if you're poor,
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Speaker 1: you're just crazy. But anyways, but when we're talking money,
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Speaker 1: I believe she her family. I tried to look up
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Speaker 1: to see what their network it was, but all I
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Speaker 1: could find out they owned coal mines. And so apparently
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Speaker 1: her grandpa or somebody bought a coal mine for like
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Speaker 1: two million dollars and it was estimated to be worth
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Speaker 1: like thirty seven billion dollars or something. So that was
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Speaker 1: the estimate. So I'm assuming she was at least fault.
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Speaker 1: Their family was at least falling in the billionaire range.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was all the way up
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Speaker 1: at thirty seven billion, but it was I'm sure if
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Speaker 1: it was estimated to be that much, at least was.
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Speaker 2: Worth a couple of billions.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when We Buy a coal Mine podcast March. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: this podcast takes Yeah, sure, sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean we're offt halfway or now what.
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Speaker 1: Do you always joke about that? It's not funny.
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Speaker 2: I find it hilarious, I know.
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Speaker 1: But it's just it's just not.
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Speaker 2: Getting back to our case. They were married very quickly,
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Speaker 2: and Steve started living the good life very quickly, private
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Speaker 2: planes and fancy dinners. But none of this made a
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Speaker 2: difference with his dad, who wrote him a letter saying
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Speaker 2: that he had no family anymore and that he was
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Speaker 2: done with. Well, evidently Louis does because he's pissed off
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Speaker 2: about getting punched in the face.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's not like Steve's family didn't come
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Speaker 1: with have any money. They lived in like this mansion
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Speaker 1: or whatever, and stuff like that.
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Speaker 2: Tax para money though the governor and poly.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not going to be coal mining money.
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Speaker 2: No. Tracy would not accept this, and she spoke to
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Speaker 2: Louis and the two eventually reconciled.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she talks about how it took her a couple months,
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Speaker 1: but she said, sometimes you just need that soft spokenness
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Speaker 1: of a woman to explain the situation.
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Speaker 2: In a couple billion dollars behind you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I think maybe she's I think we're missing some
19:03
Speaker 1: some steps between. I spoke to him, and then they started.
19:07
Speaker 1: He came back into his life.
19:09
Speaker 2: I think there was said, We've got enough money to
19:11
Speaker 2: run you for the rest of your life if you
19:13
Speaker 2: don't shape up.
19:14
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, with his new marriage and his relationship with
19:18
Speaker 1: his dad going better, Steve was happier than ever. You've
19:21
Speaker 1: got himself, this rich wife, she's good looking. Dad's back
19:26
Speaker 1: in his corner. So in nineteen ninety eight he had
19:30
Speaker 1: another big win. He passed a wrote legislation and passed
19:35
Speaker 1: a bill in the Kentucky legislature. And this bill was
19:39
Speaker 1: for domestic violence victims, and basically is it was to
19:44
Speaker 1: help protect them more by saying, if you have a
19:47
Speaker 1: protective order against somebody and that person violates that and
19:52
Speaker 1: murders you, then they are eligible for the death penalty
19:57
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. So basically, you've already had a war, you're
20:00
Speaker 1: supposed to stay away. You didn't. You killed this person,
20:03
Speaker 1: We're going to throw the book at you.
20:05
Speaker 2: So irony has come full circle.
20:07
Speaker 1: Yes, irony has come.
20:10
Speaker 2: That was the irony.
20:11
Speaker 1: Yes. So it was a great bill, and it was
20:15
Speaker 1: a big win for those suffering from domestic violence because
20:18
Speaker 1: it put another like I mean, the problem is, though,
20:21
Speaker 1: if someone's that obsessed with you or wants to hurt
20:25
Speaker 1: you that bad, it's it's hard to get anything to.
20:29
Speaker 2: Stop them other than a bullet.
20:32
Speaker 1: Yeah. So in two thousand and two, so he's had this,
20:36
Speaker 1: got this marriage. Dad's in the corner, got this win
20:38
Speaker 1: with this bill getting He's very popular and everything. So
20:41
Speaker 1: in two thousand and two he decided to run for
20:44
Speaker 1: the governorship. Tracy was pushing him. I'm sure Dado was
20:47
Speaker 1: pushing him. Got to keep the family name in there.
20:50
Speaker 2: He got some money to sell fund yep.
20:53
Speaker 1: So he sets up campaign headquarters in his father's mansion. Well,
20:56
Speaker 1: his dad quickly takes over the campaign, of course, but
21:00
Speaker 1: this did not help. You know, he's running all the
21:02
Speaker 1: stuff in the background, telling Steve what to do. Well,
21:05
Speaker 1: this didn't help because Steve just the facts. The matter is,
21:09
Speaker 1: he was not as charismatic as his dad. While his
21:12
Speaker 1: dad was kind of a shitty person on the inside,
21:16
Speaker 1: he was to the public. He knew how to talk
21:18
Speaker 1: to people. He knew how to politic. Steve was more
21:21
Speaker 1: like not the nice guy, but he did not have
21:25
Speaker 1: that public persona where he could win people over and
21:28
Speaker 1: things like that. So he did end up losing and
21:31
Speaker 1: it was kind of bad and embarrassing because he got
21:34
Speaker 1: third place.
21:36
Speaker 2: That's not bad, but there.
21:37
Speaker 3: Were only three.
21:38
Speaker 2: Oh.
21:42
Speaker 1: Now, despite this loss, Now I thought they were gonna
21:45
Speaker 1: say Dad wrote him another letter, never spoke to him.
21:49
Speaker 1: Despite this loss, Louis did stay in his life because
21:52
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's like, well, his wife's still a billionaire,
21:54
Speaker 1: so I'll hang around. But he was disappointed, but he did.
22:00
Speaker 1: But he was kind of his fault partly. He was
22:02
Speaker 1: running the campaign and stuff like that.
22:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if I ran, i'd probably finished tenth
22:07
Speaker 2: out of two people. I don't think anybody would like me.
22:10
Speaker 1: Well, I don't nobody liked him. You can't run. I
22:14
Speaker 1: know what you're being sarcastic.
22:15
Speaker 2: Well, I mean if they heckled me and would be like, hey,
22:17
Speaker 2: fuck you, TI buddy.
22:19
Speaker 1: They actually wrote in new people so that she.
22:22
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd be ten further down.
22:24
Speaker 1: Yes, they actually started off with three candidates but ended
22:28
Speaker 1: up with ten because so many people.
22:30
Speaker 2: Were mad, Donald Duck, all the writing candidates. Yeah, we
22:35
Speaker 2: now get to a story from Tracy, who's the eccentric
22:39
Speaker 2: rich lady. Rich Lady x X will eventually.
22:42
Speaker 1: Be ex wife.
22:44
Speaker 2: I mean, we'd call her crazy, but.
22:45
Speaker 1: She's loaded, so she's eccentric.
22:47
Speaker 2: So she's going to tell us about this bird. It's
22:50
Speaker 2: Christmas of two thousand and four. The whole family was
22:53
Speaker 2: having dinner at the nun mansion and.
22:55
Speaker 1: Having a good time. She said, everybody's dressed to the nines,
22:57
Speaker 1: best China, love and life.
23:00
Speaker 2: Yep. And this is when a mocking bird hit the
23:02
Speaker 2: window and continued to fly into it until it died.
23:07
Speaker 1: She talked about like blood coming out of its chest
23:11
Speaker 1: and stuff that sounds.
23:13
Speaker 2: I've had birds hit the window and they just well
23:15
Speaker 2: they hit. Yeah, they they hit and they fall in
23:17
Speaker 2: their dazed or they're dead.
23:19
Speaker 1: Yeah. They we haven't hit. Like where I work, the
23:22
Speaker 1: building is like all glass from top to bottom, and
23:26
Speaker 1: I still like so every once in a while I
23:27
Speaker 1: sit by a window and every once in a while
23:30
Speaker 1: they look out there and there's a dead bird. And
23:32
Speaker 1: a lot of times they do die and it's sad.
23:35
Speaker 1: But there was one that flew into the side like
23:38
Speaker 1: when you walk out exit the building one of the
23:41
Speaker 1: windows over there, and his wings were fully splayed and
23:45
Speaker 1: so forever there was like this for like two weeks.
23:48
Speaker 3: It because I guess.
23:50
Speaker 1: There's no you know, there's no rain here, and they
23:52
Speaker 1: hadn't came and cleaned the windows.
23:54
Speaker 2: Oh there's rain when you want to go out to
23:55
Speaker 2: the pool.
23:56
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, this is true. So anyways, I guess the
23:58
Speaker 1: bird had like dust on him, or so much dust
24:00
Speaker 1: on the window. It like flopped in there and you
24:02
Speaker 1: could just see his spready like his his his wings
24:05
Speaker 1: spread out and it's just like so depressing. And then
24:08
Speaker 1: the bird laid there forever and then something carried it.
24:12
Speaker 1: I watched the progression of this bird, his body get
24:16
Speaker 1: moved around until finally dispar Yeah. That was Macall.
24:26
Speaker 3: Get it?
24:27
Speaker 2: Yeah? I get it.
24:29
Speaker 3: Isn't that what a bird?
24:30
Speaker 1: Didn't there a Macall bird?
24:31
Speaker 2: There's a Macall But cool, cool, there's a monkey called
24:37
Speaker 2: macaque Stewart.
24:40
Speaker 1: It's not even true.
24:42
Speaker 2: It is true. Jackass had a little macock con monkey
24:47
Speaker 2: and he's like, this is my cock doing push ups
24:51
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. Yeah, okay, Johnny Knoxville or somebody.
24:54
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't watch a lot of Jackets.
24:56
Speaker 2: I didn't watch. However, I did see the Macoq episode
25:01
Speaker 2: with the monkey.
25:02
Speaker 1: I just remember, don't feed Phil. This wasn't this was
25:07
Speaker 1: the one guy. This is bayam Mar Jarrow what's his name?
25:12
Speaker 1: And he had his dad was like really big and
25:14
Speaker 1: so he made him shirts that said don't feed Phil,
25:18
Speaker 1: and like nobody was allowed to feed him or whatever.
25:21
Speaker 1: He did a show anyway.
25:23
Speaker 2: I didn't watch jack Ass.
25:24
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't Jackass. It was like another show.
25:27
Speaker 2: I'm sure he spin off from Jackass.
25:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Anyway, back to the floot of the day.
25:32
Speaker 2: Back to crazy story about this bird flying constantly in
25:37
Speaker 2: the window until it actually does die. But because we're
25:42
Speaker 2: saying it's a one and done, yeah, they fly in,
25:45
Speaker 2: they kill themselves or their day.
25:47
Speaker 1: Well, no, it gets worse because she's you know, I.
25:50
Speaker 2: Know it gets worse. Okay, I was saying, I don't
25:52
Speaker 2: believe that the bird kept flying it.
25:54
Speaker 1: No, I don't either. I think they were had a
25:56
Speaker 1: little too much to drink.
25:57
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think Tracy was on something alcohol or
26:00
Speaker 2: something that harder.
26:02
Speaker 1: Allegedly money. She could be listening, she could give me something, Okay,
26:08
Speaker 1: get on with it. People are getting frustrated.
26:10
Speaker 2: Supposedly, the birds, the mocking birds kept coming back. And
26:15
Speaker 2: a month later, No, but.
26:17
Speaker 1: You miss skipped the part where they talked about Louie
26:19
Speaker 1: said said he told everyone that it was a bad
26:23
Speaker 1: omen and that it meant death, and he was worried
26:25
Speaker 1: the birds were coming. He's like, I hope the birds
26:26
Speaker 1: aren't coming after me, and he was joking about it. Supposedly, yeah,
26:30
Speaker 1: but everybody else apparently took it very seriously.
26:33
Speaker 2: Well. Supposedly the birds dead too, because they kept coming
26:35
Speaker 2: back month after month.
26:38
Speaker 1: Yes, no, not month, all month long, she said. Birds.
26:43
Speaker 1: The birds kept doing this, like flying into the window
26:45
Speaker 1: and killing themselves. Again. I don't believe this happened, but okay.
26:50
Speaker 2: And then a month after the initial dinner, on Christmas,
26:54
Speaker 2: Louis was dead from a heart attack. Tracy said. They
26:58
Speaker 2: moved into the home the same night that his father does.
27:02
Speaker 1: Now, if you're worried about bad omens, why would you
27:04
Speaker 1: move into that creepy ass mansion the same night that
27:07
Speaker 1: he died.
27:08
Speaker 2: I don't know.
27:08
Speaker 1: Why are you there with your bags ready to go?
27:14
Speaker 2: You don't have it. Did they just push him out
27:15
Speaker 2: of the master bedroom? And as soon as the ambulance
27:18
Speaker 2: holed his body off, did they even change the sheets?
27:21
Speaker 1: I don't know.
27:23
Speaker 2: Tracy also claims that the house had bad energy and
27:27
Speaker 2: may have been haunted. Yet again, why are you moving in?
27:32
Speaker 2: Steve slowly turns into his father while he's in the house.
27:35
Speaker 1: This is Tracy telling this.
27:36
Speaker 2: Yes, Tracy telling us all this stuff. And he begins
27:40
Speaker 2: drinking excessively, and he becomes obsessed with the birds outside.
27:44
Speaker 2: He continued following in his father's footsteps, and he began
27:48
Speaker 2: having affairs, and he didn't try to hide them from Tracy.
27:51
Speaker 2: Tracy said she started he started to lose his mind,
27:55
Speaker 2: stating that he was, in fact Louis being nuts.
27:58
Speaker 1: Whenever he'd get really drunk, can cheat hold him and stuff,
28:01
Speaker 1: he'd say, I'm Louis.
28:06
Speaker 2: She said it was something like out of the Shining
28:09
Speaker 2: or Amityville horror.
28:10
Speaker 1: Again, this is Tracy telling this week. We need some
28:15
Speaker 1: outside sources to confirm.
28:20
Speaker 2: And then Tracy said the final straw came when he
28:23
Speaker 2: lost his state Senate seat in two thousand and six
28:26
Speaker 2: due to his behavior of drinking and carrying on. Tracy
28:32
Speaker 2: also decided to finally leave Steve that same year. After
28:35
Speaker 2: putting up with him for years.
28:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, him him not being a that was the last thing.
28:40
Speaker 1: She's like, you're not even a sinner anymore. I can't
28:42
Speaker 1: even do well. It's probably embarrassing for her, you know,
28:45
Speaker 1: because it was getting out around the town.
28:48
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, the schmuck is cheating on me. I got money, bitch,
28:53
Speaker 2: I got options. Yeah, I can, even though I'm a
28:55
Speaker 2: crazy but.
28:56
Speaker 1: She and she's good looking too, so she could definitely.
28:59
Speaker 2: I mean, I've let her talk about mocking birds, like, sure,
29:02
Speaker 2: you got billions of dollars, you're pretty tell me about
29:05
Speaker 2: all these mocking birds out in the window. I don't
29:07
Speaker 2: get a ship.
29:09
Speaker 1: After his life is completely falling apart, Steve tried to
29:13
Speaker 1: make a political comeback by crossing party lines and endorsing
29:18
Speaker 1: Steve Basher for governor s because Steve and his dad
29:23
Speaker 1: were Republicans and the state of Kentucky was slowly turning
29:28
Speaker 1: towards Democrat and so he's like, this is my this
29:32
Speaker 1: is my chance.
29:33
Speaker 2: This is how I revived. Yeah, switch party support this dude.
29:37
Speaker 2: He'll give me a cushy little assignment in his cabinet, yeah,
29:40
Speaker 2: or his administration, and saved me from.
29:43
Speaker 1: This back in so Basher. He did win, and Steve
29:47
Speaker 1: was on the upped up for a while. He's riding
29:49
Speaker 1: this new high. He's not drinking anymore. He's pulling his
29:54
Speaker 1: life together. And to top off his comeback, he runs
29:57
Speaker 1: into Amanda Ross. Now he knew Amanda from her father,
30:01
Speaker 1: who was actually a lobbyist for Steve, you know, at
30:04
Speaker 1: some point, and so he had met Amanda a couple
30:07
Speaker 1: of years before. But Amanda at that time was married
30:10
Speaker 1: the last time he saw her, and now she is not.
30:13
Speaker 1: She had gotten divorced. Now he's excited about this because
30:16
Speaker 1: she is pretty and she is about half his age.
30:21
Speaker 2: I'm still going with the pretty billionaire.
30:23
Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, so Steve is or she's and then
30:27
Speaker 1: she also, on top of all this, is interested in Steve.
30:31
Speaker 1: Now she does, I mean she's they're both kind of
30:35
Speaker 1: when they met, they kind of had ulterior motives for
30:39
Speaker 1: political reasons. I think anybody who's running for office or
30:43
Speaker 1: in politics always has that kind of like how is
30:45
Speaker 1: this going to help me make it? You know? Further up,
30:48
Speaker 1: So Amanda, she's young, she's new in politics, she has
30:55
Speaker 1: you know, family that's been in politics for decades. Steve,
30:59
Speaker 1: he's seeing this like, Okay, this might be a good
31:01
Speaker 1: move for me to have this young woman that's that's
31:03
Speaker 1: up and coming. And then yeah, and then Amanda is
31:08
Speaker 1: also looking at Steve. He's this well known last name.
31:11
Speaker 1: He just got back this governor that one, like things
31:14
Speaker 1: are looking up for him, and so I think they
31:16
Speaker 1: both kind of saw it as an opportunity on top
31:18
Speaker 1: of just like liking each other.
31:22
Speaker 2: You're reading a lot of shit in that.
31:23
Speaker 1: I'm not reading a lot of shit into it. That's
31:26
Speaker 1: what they said.
31:27
Speaker 2: They said she was.
31:28
Speaker 1: From the Aphrodite Jones. She said that they're from she was.
31:32
Speaker 1: Amanda was had like a political pedigree. She may not
31:36
Speaker 1: have had as much money or as much clout as Steve,
31:39
Speaker 1: but she was going down that path of politics. And
31:43
Speaker 1: she's young and fresh and new and everything like that.
31:46
Speaker 1: Plus she's half his age, so he's definitely gonna hop
31:48
Speaker 1: on that.
31:50
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he. So, as we were saying previously, Amanda
31:56
Speaker 2: lands a lucrative job in the State Department of Insurance
32:01
Speaker 2: for Kentucky. For Kentucky, it was a department head level
32:06
Speaker 2: and it was very important.
32:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a director.
32:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, she's up there in the admin up there
32:14
Speaker 2: pretty high. Steve also got a boost in his political
32:17
Speaker 2: career because Governor Bursher appointed him as Secretary of Health
32:21
Speaker 2: and Family Services over the domestic abuse policy.
32:26
Speaker 1: I did look up the Basher guy. He's no longer governor,
32:29
Speaker 1: but his son's the governor.
32:30
Speaker 2: So this is just family living off the name.
32:35
Speaker 1: What the nuns wanted to do is now happening.
32:39
Speaker 2: Things start to get even better for Steve and Amanda
32:41
Speaker 2: when they become engaged on Amanda's twenty ninth birthday.
32:45
Speaker 1: Oh Steve, Yeah, and he used old Steve's mother, Beulah's ring,
32:50
Speaker 1: so it's probably a pretty good sized ring.
32:52
Speaker 2: Probably a nice rock. But things began going downhill quickly
32:56
Speaker 2: after that. Amanda was jealous and Steve was flirting, and
33:01
Speaker 2: then he began drinking again and made things even worse.
33:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think she was a she liked drinking
33:08
Speaker 1: as well, and so we got this this thing. She'd
33:11
Speaker 1: get jealous, but then he'd make it worse because he
33:14
Speaker 1: probably was flirting with people because that's what he did
33:17
Speaker 1: to his ex wife, So she had reasons.
33:19
Speaker 2: She had her reasons, so we know Tracy was not lying.
33:23
Speaker 1: No.
33:24
Speaker 2: Just six months later they call off the engagement and
33:27
Speaker 2: Steve moved out, but they remained in contact. In February
33:31
Speaker 2: of two thousand and nine, Amanda and Steve were at
33:34
Speaker 2: her apartment and they were drinking. He wanted to leave,
33:37
Speaker 2: but she argued with him, and supposedly she would not
33:41
Speaker 2: let him leave, so they got into a physical altercation
33:45
Speaker 2: and he ends up slapping her and throwing her up
33:48
Speaker 2: against the wall, breaking the lamp in the process.
33:51
Speaker 1: Yes.
33:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, two people drinking probably shouldn't be arguing, especially if
33:56
Speaker 2: they got violent tempers. Police were called do the apartment
34:01
Speaker 2: and it was noted that they both had marks, they
34:03
Speaker 2: both had bruises. It appeared that they were both aggressors
34:06
Speaker 2: in this fight. Amanda filed for an emergency protective order
34:10
Speaker 2: against Steve, which is ironic, and this quickly got out
34:14
Speaker 2: to the news. He was placed on administrative leave until
34:18
Speaker 2: this was sorted out. Yes, you don't want to be
34:21
Speaker 2: the director in charge of.
34:22
Speaker 1: Family domestic abuse policy and now you've been accused of
34:27
Speaker 1: domestic abuse, So yeah, it seemed I mean, I don't
34:29
Speaker 1: want to say anything bad about the victim in this
34:32
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but it did appear that she
34:35
Speaker 1: he had cuts and things like on him. And then
34:37
Speaker 1: she had bruises. So not saying what he did was okay,
34:41
Speaker 1: but it did seem like maybe she was doing things
34:44
Speaker 1: as well. It was just a bad situation in general. Now, Steve,
34:49
Speaker 1: he's going out trying to save his career, and so
34:51
Speaker 1: he starts claiming that Amanda was baiting him and wanted
34:54
Speaker 1: to ruin his career and she was successful. Now do
34:58
Speaker 1: I personally think maybe that she did the protective order
35:03
Speaker 1: because it would run him? Yes, I do believe that, Okay,
35:09
Speaker 1: because they from what I could tell, they only had
35:11
Speaker 1: this one incident, so it wasn't like and like I said,
35:15
Speaker 1: they both had. They both seemed to be into it
35:18
Speaker 1: with each other and everything that. So do I think
35:20
Speaker 1: that she probably was thinking, Okay, I'm really gonna get him.
35:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
35:25
Speaker 1: Not saying he didn't deserve the protective order, I'm just
35:27
Speaker 1: saying she knew, she knew it would probably it would
35:30
Speaker 1: end him whenever she did this. Not saying anything he
35:33
Speaker 1: did was right. I'm just saying that, Uh No.
35:35
Speaker 2: He sounds like a Skis bottle and we had a coming.
35:37
Speaker 1: So yeah, So Steve begins drinking heavily again, of course,
35:41
Speaker 1: of course, and he becomes more and more angry towards Amanda,
35:44
Speaker 1: so he starts spiraling. At this point, he's just, you know,
35:48
Speaker 1: the world's out to get me guy. He begins trying
35:51
Speaker 1: to see how he could run her political career. So
35:54
Speaker 1: he takes naked photos of her, and he begins showing
35:57
Speaker 1: them around town, all the circles that she would be
35:59
Speaker 1: pol Tians would be in and things like that. So
36:02
Speaker 1: just a terrible human. Now on top of this, Amanda
36:06
Speaker 1: began telling friends and co workers that Steve had started
36:09
Speaker 1: to follow her or she would just see his car nearby.
36:13
Speaker 1: He never I don't think he ever approached her, but
36:15
Speaker 1: he was.
36:16
Speaker 2: He was lurking, keeping tabs on her.
36:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's become upset. He before I think he was,
36:24
Speaker 1: because I think before it was more of like normal
36:26
Speaker 1: shithead behavior. And then now he's been he's now gone.
36:30
Speaker 1: He's the scales have tipped and he's become psychopath.
36:33
Speaker 2: It's got a bottle of Scotch in the car drinking.
36:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got nothing else to do. She's just over
36:38
Speaker 1: there living in that mansion that his family was in,
36:40
Speaker 1: his dad who hated him and didn't think he was
36:43
Speaker 1: good enough and all this stuff.
36:45
Speaker 2: And should have bonaire x M yep.
36:48
Speaker 1: So at this point she decides to buy that handgun
36:51
Speaker 1: for her protection because she's just worried that he's going
36:54
Speaker 1: to try to kill her. Now, at one point, she
36:56
Speaker 1: did say that like one of the closest encounters that
36:59
Speaker 1: she had with him was she left. This is from
37:02
Speaker 1: a coworker saying that Amanda came back in and told
37:04
Speaker 1: her this. She had left work to go to lunch.
37:07
Speaker 1: She goes outside and she comes pretty not face to face,
37:10
Speaker 1: but she turns the corner and it's just Steve just
37:13
Speaker 1: staring her down or whatever. So she's scared, so she
37:16
Speaker 1: runs back into the office and tells her coworker about this.
37:20
Speaker 1: And this was just a few days before her murder.
37:24
Speaker 2: On September tenth, Steve went to the legislature's office, where
37:28
Speaker 2: he had served for fifteen years.
37:31
Speaker 1: And I use that word right, legislature, Yes, okay, whether
37:35
Speaker 1: it be House or Senate, the.
37:38
Speaker 2: Legislature, the legislature, well, his old coworkers colleagues, Yeah, what
37:47
Speaker 2: you call.
37:48
Speaker 1: When I was taiying and I was like, it's not coworkers.
37:52
Speaker 1: I guess they're kind of they're all employed by the taxpayer.
37:56
Speaker 2: Yes, well, they all shunned him. They didn't want to
37:58
Speaker 2: be seen with him. They didn't want the stink on them,
38:01
Speaker 2: ruining their chances of re election later on down the road.
38:04
Speaker 1: Not to mention, he probably's coming in freaking like hungover
38:08
Speaker 1: or partially drunk, showing up at the damn.
38:11
Speaker 2: Legislator dan Ackroyd from Trading Places where he's in the
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Speaker 2: Santa suit and he's pulling salmon out of a Santa suit.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that reference, Stewart, We've.
38:22
Speaker 2: Never watched Trading Places to no.
38:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's probably looking like disheveled and a mess. Anyway,
38:29
Speaker 1: So maybe if he'd came in there, you know, buttoned
38:32
Speaker 1: up and looking clean and everything like that, maybe they
38:36
Speaker 1: would have talked to him. But they're definitely just get
38:37
Speaker 1: out of here, guy, you're embarrassing me.
38:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds exactly like Trading Places where dan Ackroyd
38:42
Speaker 2: went back to the farm and all the co workers
38:45
Speaker 2: shunned him. They're like, no, get out of here because
38:47
Speaker 2: they framed him from embezzelin or something like that from
38:50
Speaker 2: the company.
38:50
Speaker 1: Well that's helped Steve felt.
38:52
Speaker 2: This sounds exactly like a scenes from Trading Place.
38:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you the ID channel. They're always coming
38:58
Speaker 1: up with these things. You can't make the shit up
39:00
Speaker 1: what they come up with.
39:03
Speaker 2: And then same thing with Steve that dan Akroy did
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Speaker 2: the next day. He just went batshit crazy and Steve,
39:11
Speaker 2: maybe they got.
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Speaker 1: The idea for that over how old is that movie?
39:15
Speaker 2: It's older than okay. He then drove to Well the
39:19
Speaker 2: next day he ambushed a man. That's when he ambushed her,
39:22
Speaker 2: was in shot her three times. He then drove to
39:25
Speaker 2: his parents' graves, where he was found by police. He's
39:29
Speaker 2: arrested and upon further examination, the Manila envelope that was
39:33
Speaker 2: found in his car is labeled Psycho Bitch File compiled
39:38
Speaker 2: on August seventh, two thousand and nine, where he wrote
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Speaker 2: his dissertation on why Amanda needed to die and what
39:46
Speaker 2: she had done to him.
39:48
Speaker 1: Psycho bitch file. That's also what my file.
39:52
Speaker 2: That was your nickname in high school, wasn't it. He
39:55
Speaker 2: held her responsible for everything that had gone wrong in
39:58
Speaker 2: his life, and I the law that he wrote in
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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight would make him eligible for the death penalty.
40:06
Speaker 2: Now to avoid the death penalty, Steve pled guilty in
40:10
Speaker 2: June of twenty eleven to intentional murder with aggravated circumstances
40:16
Speaker 2: so that he could receive life without parole.
40:19
Speaker 1: Now, the prosecutor on was on there being interviewed, and
40:23
Speaker 1: he wanted to make sure it was clear that anytime
40:27
Speaker 1: this happens, if someone wants to plead guilty of as
40:30
Speaker 1: long as it's life without parole, they will accept it.
40:32
Speaker 1: So he didn't get any special treatment because of his family,
40:37
Speaker 1: which makes sense because no one gives a fuck about
40:39
Speaker 1: his family. The dad's dead, he was a.
40:42
Speaker 2: All the way child.
40:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
40:43
Speaker 2: Mom's dead.
40:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a disgrace and nobody cares. He can't
40:47
Speaker 1: do anything for them anymore anyways.
40:49
Speaker 2: I he hanging, got no children.
40:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a man is friends and family want her
40:54
Speaker 1: to be known as the intelligent, caring and vivacious person
40:58
Speaker 1: that she was, and so they wanted to make sure
41:00
Speaker 1: that they did that she didn't die in vain and
41:04
Speaker 1: that something good could come out of it. So they
41:07
Speaker 1: worked really hard to pass a law in Amanda's honor.
41:09
Speaker 1: And the law is called Amanda's Law in Kentucky and
41:13
Speaker 1: it allows for those with protective orders to put a
41:15
Speaker 1: tracking device on their perpetrator. I don't know if it's
41:20
Speaker 1: on the car or on the person. I would hope
41:23
Speaker 1: it'd be on the person because they could run a boat. Yeah,
41:27
Speaker 1: so I guess I don't. I didn't look into the
41:29
Speaker 1: details about it, but I guess it allows them to
41:33
Speaker 1: request to that that they have a tracking device, which
41:36
Speaker 1: I think that's great, especially women that have stalkers and
41:38
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They just need to know when when
41:42
Speaker 1: they're showing up. All right, that is our case out
41:44
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. Stu, do you have a y'all need Jesus?
41:48
Speaker 2: I always do.
41:49
Speaker 1: Okay, are you ready?
41:50
Speaker 2: I am always ready.
41:51
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go.
41:53
Speaker 2: Only fans model who filmed herself urinating on grocery store
41:57
Speaker 2: food ew busted for hotel room peacepree EW, including on
42:03
Speaker 2: a bibbyl. Maybe you have heard of them on a
42:07
Speaker 2: bibyl a Bible?
42:09
Speaker 1: Is it the what's the one.
42:11
Speaker 2: That's awaking James version?
42:13
Speaker 1: Well, no, there's also I feel like the Mormon Bible
42:15
Speaker 1: is always.
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Speaker 2: In there too, unless they started putting some in there.
42:18
Speaker 2: I know nothing. I haven't checked my hotel room because.
42:21
Speaker 1: You got a no, Stuart, we just started we started
42:26
Speaker 1: back on hotels. We I think we even explain this,
42:30
Speaker 1: all right, Maybe I explained it in a video on Instagram.
42:32
Speaker 1: I don't know how we've switched back to hotels because
42:35
Speaker 1: the Airbnb fees are outrageous.
42:37
Speaker 2: And now I don't actually claim.
42:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, they make you pay like a two hundred do
42:41
Speaker 1: I swear it's like, and we don't stay at big
42:43
Speaker 1: Airbnb's like we're our goal is to try to just
42:45
Speaker 1: get at least one bedroom for our price range, just
42:48
Speaker 1: because the kids we can close the door and then
42:51
Speaker 1: we can still be out in the front room. So
42:52
Speaker 1: even though there's we're a family of five, we're cramming
42:55
Speaker 1: into a one bedroom and hoping and then sometime times
43:00
Speaker 1: it's saying even one bedroom. Sometimes it's like and then
43:04
Speaker 1: it's always like one hundred and fifty to two hundred
43:06
Speaker 1: dollars cleaning fee. And then as you're living there, you're like,
43:09
Speaker 1: they didn't pay nobody to come clean this. They came
43:11
Speaker 1: and took some little cloths and wipe down themselves. They
43:14
Speaker 1: didn't clean under anything. To me, if you pay two
43:17
Speaker 1: hundred dollars for that size at home, that's a professional
43:20
Speaker 1: cleaning fee. Yes, that's that's only they need to pay
43:25
Speaker 1: someone who's.
43:25
Speaker 2: Because we find out when the kid's toy rolls under
43:27
Speaker 2: the couch. When I left that man, they were like cheese. Yeah,
43:31
Speaker 2: did we get cream cheese? No, that's not our under
43:36
Speaker 2: the couch. Yeah, well dust.
43:39
Speaker 1: Anyways, we did have been switched back to hotels, although
43:42
Speaker 1: it sounds like from.
43:43
Speaker 2: This ironically enough, when we went to Corpus Christy, we
43:48
Speaker 2: did go to the Lexington.
43:50
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with anything, because this
43:52
Speaker 1: was at a.
43:53
Speaker 2: Lexington, Kentucky.
43:54
Speaker 1: Oh, that's where this case just was Jesus christ.
43:58
Speaker 2: I just said that.
44:00
Speaker 3: Oh I wasn't.
44:00
Speaker 1: Listening to you. You said, that's where we just covered
44:04
Speaker 1: this case.
44:06
Speaker 2: I said, ironically enough, When we went to Corpus Christie,
44:09
Speaker 2: we went to the Lexington because we stayed at that
44:11
Speaker 2: hotel in Corpus Christi okay, And we went to the Lexington.
44:15
Speaker 1: Oh, this case or that case that you're reading that
44:19
Speaker 1: y'all need Jesus. No, oh, I thought you meant that
44:22
Speaker 1: y'all need Jesus was out of Lexington. And that's when
44:24
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's crazy. Oh my god. If
44:28
Speaker 1: I can hear the reviews writing itself right.
44:30
Speaker 2: Now, if anybody's listening this long, this is their this
44:33
Speaker 2: is their.
44:34
Speaker 1: Fault, I can just hear the reviews.
44:36
Speaker 2: Anybody that's gotten this far and is hearing this, it's
44:39
Speaker 2: their own fault. Now. They should have punched out the
44:42
Speaker 2: first five minutes of this podcast.
44:47
Speaker 1: When I went on that Spotify rant.
44:49
Speaker 2: Yes, when you went on the Spotify rent, they should.
44:51
Speaker 3: Have left them all right, go on about this lady.
44:54
Speaker 2: That's Florida or not Florida, not Florida. Okay, you're correct.
44:59
Speaker 2: I think we this lady already because she was peeing
45:02
Speaker 2: on groceries. Either that or I just read the story
45:04
Speaker 2: and I thought it would be good. Y'all need Jesus?
45:06
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because you asked me that. I don't remember,
45:08
Speaker 1: but maybe someone else does.
45:09
Speaker 2: Coming to us from the New York Post by Emily Crane,
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Speaker 2: published April seventeenth, twenty twenty five. So this is fresh pea.
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Speaker 1: Well, so then we haven't covered this one.
45:19
Speaker 2: We have what episs her get it?
45:24
Speaker 1: Okay, how we have covered? If it's from April seventeenth.
45:28
Speaker 2: A New Hampshire Only fans model who allegedly filmed herself
45:31
Speaker 2: urinating on grocery store food has been busted over a
45:36
Speaker 2: peace bree in a hotel room, including on a Bible cups. Yeah,
45:40
Speaker 2: she was the one that was peeing on the grocery
45:42
Speaker 2: store food for content or something. Oh maybe, so she's
45:45
Speaker 2: already been busted for pe and on grocery store food.
45:48
Speaker 1: Do the rut and this domestic violence thing. If you
45:51
Speaker 1: get peeing on death penalty.
45:53
Speaker 2: I think we said that one. I think we did
45:56
Speaker 2: cover because you said that she needed the death penalty.
45:59
Speaker 2: Kelly Dford twenty four, was hit with fresh charges this
46:02
Speaker 2: week for allegedly urinating all over a room at a
46:06
Speaker 2: Marriott hotel. Write this down in Keene back in January
46:12
Speaker 2: court documents Shell. Okay, so if we ever go to Keene, New.
46:15
Speaker 1: Hampshire, because we're Marriot people.
46:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're Marriot people. I don't know this one.
46:20
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. We're not Marriot people. Were residents
46:23
Speaker 1: in Fairfield.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, occasionally a courtyard.
46:28
Speaker 2: We're in the family.
46:30
Speaker 1: Yes, we're not in like Marriods.
46:32
Speaker 2: No. Tedford, who goes by Kinki Kelly on only Fans,
46:39
Speaker 2: is accused of recording herself peeing on an air conditioner unit, comforter,
46:44
Speaker 2: curtains and the Bible inside the room. The document's charge.
46:49
Speaker 2: She is also allegedly defecated on the floor, be hiding
46:53
Speaker 2: before hiding her feces in the tank of the toilet,
46:56
Speaker 2: which is called an upper decker if heard.
47:00
Speaker 3: I've never heard of this store.
47:01
Speaker 2: Were you poop in the tank?
47:03
Speaker 1: Oh, she's not even cute.
47:05
Speaker 2: So that whenever they flush.
47:06
Speaker 1: It, stud to show me a picture of her.
47:08
Speaker 2: The poop comes into the bowl.
47:11
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. No, what is wrong with you?
47:13
Speaker 1: Why do you know that?
47:14
Speaker 2: Because you go to your friend's house and you just know.
47:16
Speaker 1: You do not go to your friend's house. You do
47:18
Speaker 1: not do that.
47:19
Speaker 3: I don't care.
47:20
Speaker 2: No, you go to a friend's house that's not really
47:23
Speaker 2: your friend, and you're like, hey, no.
47:25
Speaker 1: You need to just stop talking or I'm going to
47:27
Speaker 1: suggest the death penalty for you.
47:30
Speaker 2: Ah. The alleged purp was hit with five criminal mischief
47:33
Speaker 2: charges over the sickening ordeal. The filings obtained by The
47:36
Speaker 2: Smoking Gun show the gross saga allegedly unfolded just weeks
47:41
Speaker 2: before she was arrested for spraying a slew of products
47:46
Speaker 2: at the Monaded Knock Food co Op, which is located
47:52
Speaker 2: in Keene with her urine. Yeah, she was peeing on
47:55
Speaker 2: the stuff at the grocery store. Then she went to
47:58
Speaker 2: this hotel room did the same thing film content.
48:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, but house watching this, Okay, But.
48:03
Speaker 2: Then she got busted for the grocery store, which was
48:05
Speaker 2: like fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars worth of shit, and
48:08
Speaker 2: then they found out about this hotel room.
48:11
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, she's probably making a shit ton of money.
48:13
Speaker 1: That's why she's willing to risk this to go do
48:16
Speaker 1: the upper deck or whatever it is.
48:20
Speaker 2: Her alleged display costs the grocery store roughly fifteen hundred
48:23
Speaker 2: dollars for ruin products and cleaning expenses. Yeah, because that's
48:28
Speaker 2: the one.
48:28
Speaker 1: Well, you can't go to that pr you can't you
48:31
Speaker 1: can't undo that, you can't put that toothpaste back of
48:34
Speaker 1: the tube for the public. That Now that's known as
48:36
Speaker 1: the grocery store, the co op that has pea all
48:38
Speaker 1: over it, like there's no.
48:40
Speaker 2: A local store first forced to issue or recall for
48:45
Speaker 2: organic quenoa corn.
48:47
Speaker 1: Meal, I mean technically it was still organic.
48:50
Speaker 2: Coconut shreads and raw walnuts. Hedford allegedly relieved herself on
48:56
Speaker 2: the products.
48:56
Speaker 1: And she's peeing on stuff that soaks up things too. Yes,
49:00
Speaker 1: it's not like she's peeing on an orange where it's
49:02
Speaker 1: just going to roll off. She's peeing on things that
49:04
Speaker 1: like pastas and quenewaws and coconut shreds that are going
49:08
Speaker 1: to soak up the the urine. Yes, death penalty.
49:15
Speaker 2: Cop said. The grocery store footage was among a trove
49:18
Speaker 2: of online videos they uncover that documented a similar disgusting
49:22
Speaker 2: acts dating back to at least twenty twenty one. At
49:27
Speaker 2: this time, it appears likely that similar historic incidents Occurrerding
49:30
Speaker 2: Keen and surrounding communities. Were Tetford contaminated items and or
49:36
Speaker 2: surfaces with her urine. She was slapped with a criminal
49:40
Speaker 2: mischief charge over the grocery store ordeal and is due
49:44
Speaker 2: to be arraignged on all other charges on May eighth.
49:47
Speaker 1: They need to throw her in prison for a long time,
49:50
Speaker 1: for life, all right, Well thanks for with no bathroom.
49:56
Speaker 2: Yes she just a pee on her own, sleep in it, yes, sleeping?
50:01
Speaker 1: Oh try her, no, put her in prison. Have her
50:03
Speaker 1: pull that shit in prison and see how long she
50:06
Speaker 1: lasts peeing on people's stuff.
50:08
Speaker 2: Yeah not jel prison.
50:09
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well that is our case in our
50:13
Speaker 1: y'all need Jesus for the week. We are going on
50:16
Speaker 1: a cruise.
50:18
Speaker 2: What why do you keep telling people we're living our house.
50:21
Speaker 1: We're not leaving our house. What do you, Stuart, Nobody
50:27
Speaker 1: listens to this.
50:27
Speaker 2: Okay, there's tens of listeners out there listening to this
50:30
Speaker 2: right now.
50:31
Speaker 1: Well, if they're listening right now when they heard this part,
50:34
Speaker 1: then they're not in it to rob us. Okay, nobody's
50:37
Speaker 1: staying there on this long at the intent to rob us. Nobody.
50:42
Speaker 1: In fact, nobody's probably listening at this point is probably
50:45
Speaker 1: just even the tens of listeners we had, they already stopped. Yeah, anyways,
50:52
Speaker 1: so we will see if we have an episode next week.
50:55
Speaker 1: We're going to try to record one to have put out,
50:56
Speaker 1: but that may not happen because you know, Careen where
51:01
Speaker 1: us No Stewart sucks and needs to start writing cases.
51:05
Speaker 2: No, I did write Casey, you didn't.
51:06
Speaker 1: Like what the okay, Well maybe you try again. Maybe
51:09
Speaker 1: you try again, and we'll see how you do.
51:11
Speaker 2: Okay, and then what happens after I spend all the
51:14
Speaker 2: time and you're like, nope, main.
51:15
Speaker 1: We'll record and put it on the Patreon.
51:18
Speaker 2: So you don't want people to come to the Patreon.
51:22
Speaker 1: Anyways? All right, I guess we will. Yeah. Check out
51:25
Speaker 1: rate review, subscribe, Instagram, Facebook, check the show notes, join
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Speaker 1: the Patreon for ad free in early access, and possibly
51:35
Speaker 1: Stew's unwritten case. The rest is still unwritten.
51:40
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, but don't ever do
51:42
Speaker 2: that again.
51:45
Speaker 1: That's Natasha betting Field.
51:46
Speaker 3: That's the that's the theme song to the Hills.
51:50
Speaker 2: I thought that was Brooks.
51:51
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyways, all right, well we will see
51:54
Speaker 1: you guys next time. Buy Everyone say.
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Speaker 3: It it's bad to be superstitious.
52:06
Speaker 2: Find nothing else. It's working, and my hands bringing and
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Speaker 1: Burning, and sick of all, it's worrying Buck