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10-21-26 Hour 2 - Different night, same Avs/Can the Broncos flip a switch?/Oh, By the Way · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane on demand.
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  Speaker 1: So listen, don't listen to me. Listen, I can come
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  Speaker 1: in and talk to you until I'm blue in the
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  Speaker 1: face about what transpired, but listen to Coach Bednar, listen
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  Speaker 1: to Kale McCarr, to their postgame comments.
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  Speaker 3: They'll tell you exactly what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: I just felt like we were kind of behind it
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  Speaker 4: most of the night. Just not a great first two periods.
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  Speaker 4: And then I gave up a tough one in the third.
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  Speaker 4: So sometimes you have it, sometimes you don't. And just
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  Speaker 4: felt like we were kind of chasing it tonight. Just
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  Speaker 4: the way we played in those two games, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think it's up to our standard. And I think we
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  Speaker 4: all know that. And regardless of if guys are tired,
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  Speaker 4: there's just a couple off games here. But we'll get
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  Speaker 4: back to it and get back to the grind. But yeah, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: just not good enough from everybody these past two.
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  Speaker 3: Avs drop the second game of the back-to-back and go
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  Speaker 3: 0-2 on the road trip. Neither game good. Both sluggish,
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  Speaker 3: slow starts, relying way too much on finding your game
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  Speaker 3: in the middle of it, and then by the time
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  Speaker 3: they did find it, it was too little too late
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  Speaker 3: in both contests. I'm not panicked at all about this.
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  Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine. They are supremely talented. They
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  Speaker 3: will continue to be supremely talented. I would be a
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  Speaker 3: lot more concerned if you were losing these games because
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  Speaker 3: of goaltending as opposed to what they've been losing it by,
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  Speaker 3: which is slow starts, which are, I think, highly correctable
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  Speaker 3: for them. They just look a little bit disinterested at
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  Speaker 3: the start of games, and I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: It's just odd. It's odd to see an Avalanche team
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  Speaker 1: get outshot the way they got outshot last night. I
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  Speaker 1: know the final numbers don't reveal the disparity in shots,
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  Speaker 1: but what did you say at one point? What were
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  Speaker 1: the shots on goal?
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  Speaker 3: It's like 23-5 midway through the second.
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  Speaker 1: And then I saw 39-14. You usually were used to
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  Speaker 1: seeing the Avs with the higher number. Right. So seeing
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  Speaker 1: that the other way around is unsettling. It's different. They
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  Speaker 1: looked slow to the puck last night. I'm saying things
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  Speaker 1: that the coach said after the game last night. Nothing
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  Speaker 1: different here. Yeah. They looked slow. And at times they
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  Speaker 1: looked old, to be honest. And that's, to me, as
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  Speaker 1: an Avalanche fan for a long time, the Avs have
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  Speaker 1: always been the faster team.
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  Speaker 5: Always.
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  Speaker 1: Last night they did not look like the faster team.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we looked slow, unenergetic tonight. Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I didn't like any of those either of these games.
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  Speaker 5: Losing races, losing battles. It starts there, kind of, for me.
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  Speaker 6: We wait way too long to start playing.
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  Speaker 5: They looked like they were energized and doing all the
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  Speaker 5: right things.
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  Speaker 6: Even tonight, I didn't think we managed.
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  Speaker 5: To talk very well, but it was more than that.
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  Speaker 5: I think we started playing in the third period. Matt
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  Speaker 5: didn't check the sheet, but I'm guessing we had more
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  Speaker 5: shots in the third period than we had the rest
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  Speaker 5: of the game combined. We had more scoring chances in
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  Speaker 5: the third period than the rest of the game combined.
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  Speaker 5: We gave up less in the third period than we
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  Speaker 5: did the rest of the game combined.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've looked slow and unenergetic for the last
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  Speaker 3: couple of games. Now, I hear what you're saying, Vic,
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  Speaker 3: about they looked old at times. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 3: the case. I think it was maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to call it motivation,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to call it discipline, whatever you want
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  Speaker 3: to call it. I don't think that the age factor
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  Speaker 3: is why they couldn't get to the puck. If that's
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  Speaker 3: the case, then you have some gigantic problems.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think it's an exhaustion. It's just a– I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the age thing comes in over time, right?
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  Speaker 1: And they've already proven this year they're still that team.
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  Speaker 1: They've proven it. We saw it the first few games.
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  Speaker 1: Could they be tired three weeks in? Is that their,
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  Speaker 1: how many strings of back-to-backs have they had already?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they just had, so they went.
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  Speaker 1: That was their third string of back-to-backs. They've had one
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  Speaker 1: each week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they went Winnipeg, Calgary, then they went Dallas, Dallas,
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  Speaker 3: and now Philly and New Jersey. So that's all, that's
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  Speaker 3: three of them in the last 14 days. Now you
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  Speaker 3: get breaks in between and stuff like that, but I mean, look,
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  Speaker 3: Especially one of these, I know Philly to New Jersey
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  Speaker 3: isn't some sort of huge travel thing, but it's still,
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  Speaker 3: you're going somewhere, it's late at night, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I just, I see no reason for panic yet. I'm actually,
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  Speaker 3: in a weird way, encouraged. Because I think over the
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  Speaker 3: last two games, both goalies, Blackwood and Wedgwood, kept you
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  Speaker 3: in games that you probably shouldn't have been in. This
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  Speaker 3: is what Bednar said about Wedgie last night.
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  Speaker 6: It was great.
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  Speaker 5: I put it a little bit like Blackwood yesterday. He
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  Speaker 5: gave us a chance. If we start playing earlier, like
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  Speaker 5: the urgency in the third period, like puck pursuit, checking
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  Speaker 5: pucks back, being relentless, like that showed up in the
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  Speaker 5: third period, right? Wedge kept us in for 40 minutes
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  Speaker 5: of that game to give us a chance to be
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  Speaker 5: able to try and come back.
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  Speaker 6: And I thought Blackie did the same thing yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, if you're looking for Jared Bednar this morning,
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  Speaker 3: he has been pushed to tomorrow because they got in
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  Speaker 3: late last night. So he will talk to us tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: at 8 o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, I'm reading your shots on goal were
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  Speaker 1: 23 to 5 in the second period. Yeah. 23 to 5.
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  Speaker 1: And then you saw something that, again, usually it's the
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  Speaker 1: abs pulling it off. That goal by Gritsiuk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. The way he just sliced and diced him. That's
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  Speaker 1: an avalanche type goal. It was like I was watching
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  Speaker 1: the opposite team last night.
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  Speaker 3: It's what you saw, and that was sort of the
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  Speaker 3: nail in the coffin. At least it felt that way.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you saw from Cale on the first goal. Now,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't finish the goal, but he set up the
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  Speaker 3: rebound for Landy to put it in where he's weaving
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  Speaker 3: in between traffic. And, again, this is what I think
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  Speaker 3: over the last couple of games and even dating a
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  Speaker 3: little bit back to the Pittsburgh game, that's what the
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  Speaker 3: Avs need to do. Like, if Jared Bednar is showing
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  Speaker 3: them film this morning or whatever and saying, what do
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  Speaker 3: we need to do more of? I know only a
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  Speaker 3: few people in the world can weave in between traffic
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  Speaker 3: like Cale did on that play. But the bottom line
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  Speaker 3: is he shot it towards the net. It hit the goaltender.
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  Speaker 3: Landy's out front. He gets the rebound. He pounds it in.
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  Speaker 3: It's like put the puck on the net. It might
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  Speaker 3: not go in, but at least you can have a
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  Speaker 3: shot at a rebound or something or a tip or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I know the coach is mad because for a third
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  Speaker 1: straight game, they just have not come out in the
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  Speaker 1: first period and played even in that Pittsburgh game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they look terrible in the first period. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And then they actually won that game. They looked terrible
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  Speaker 1: in Philly in the first period. And they looked awful
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  Speaker 1: in the first period last. I mean, the first period,
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  Speaker 1: they're just not getting the engine started.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, this is Betsy on being 500 after
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  Speaker 3: 10 games.
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  Speaker 6: Because for me, it's like your playoffs are made like
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  Speaker 6: every day in this league. It's not like this one
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  Speaker 6: number at the end of it. Right. So you got
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  Speaker 6: to have.
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  Speaker 5: 12 points, 13 points to secure your spot. Um, with
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  Speaker 5: some games left over at the end and make some
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  Speaker 5: hay if you need to. And like we, we only
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  Speaker 5: get 11, right? So we're right there. We had a
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  Speaker 5: chance over the last two games. We played better to
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  Speaker 5: get there and we didn't do it. So we got
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  Speaker 5: to make sure we give a good start to the
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  Speaker 5: next one and regroup.
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll be a nice little reset. They come
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  Speaker 3: back home. They play Friday. I think they should have
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  Speaker 3: LOC back for that game against Tampa at ballerina on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Cause they'll come off LTIR or long-term injured reserve, whatever
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  Speaker 3: they call it.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Yeah, my buddy who I told you about watches
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  Speaker 1: every game closely, and he said the same thing that's
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  Speaker 1: been mentioned on this show, that something's going on with Nate.
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  Speaker 1: He just doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: Looks weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll give you this. Can you tell me
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  Speaker 1: who leads the Avs in scoring right now?
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  Speaker 2: Goals?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, goals, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's Leckie.
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  Speaker 1: Leckie. Leckie's got seven goals. Now, Leckie is a– listen,
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  Speaker 1: we all love Leckie. He shouldn't be leading this team
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  Speaker 1: in goals. No, it's early.
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  Speaker 3: And Nate's got, what, Lekanen's got eight now because he
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  Speaker 3: had two last night. Nate's got six. We all know, like,
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  Speaker 3: whether you're Mikko or Marty Natchez or Lekanen or whoever,
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  Speaker 3: if you're playing off of Nate on that same line,
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  Speaker 3: you are going to get, you're going to be the
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  Speaker 3: beneficiary of getting some good looks because there's so much
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  Speaker 3: attention given to him. But regardless of that, Nate's been
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  Speaker 3: held to a zero in the points category. Forget goals.
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  Speaker 3: Points category in three of the last four games.
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  Speaker 1: I hope this turns into mindless fretting in pre-Christmas hockey.
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  Speaker 1: Because a lot of times that's what it is, right?
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  Speaker 1: We fret. We fret early in the season. And you
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  Speaker 1: want your team to get better as the year goes on, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope that's what this is. Wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: The year they won their last cup, They.
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  Speaker 3: Had a rough start to the year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They were like 4-5-2 or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I recall. And the fretting was through the roof then. So,
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  Speaker 1: would you rather them go through this now or, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's a good side, or later?
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  Speaker 3: Guys, we're 10 games in. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that to you, Vic, but there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people, why don't you guys just call out
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  Speaker 3: how terrible they did? They looked really bad the last
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  Speaker 3: couple nights. I also think that they're a very good
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  Speaker 3: hockey team. You know, It is funny.
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  Speaker 1: If they're a 500 team in late February, we got issues.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a completely different discussion. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 3: going to be the case.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I'll throw some positivity in here. I think your
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  Speaker 3: goaltending's been really good as of late. The team overall
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  Speaker 3: has not been, but if you gave me the option
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  Speaker 3: early in the year, you're a 500 hockey team wide. Well,
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  Speaker 3: because the team hasn't been good enough. Not the goaltending.
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  Speaker 3: The goaltending's been fine. I would actually take that more
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  Speaker 3: than the opposite. Because if the opposite of that were true,
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  Speaker 3: then we'd be having a different discussion. It still is like,
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  Speaker 3: you have faith. Hey, here's what nobody's scared about, Vic.
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  Speaker 3: Nathan McKinnon just lost it. That's not any concern. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if you were losing games because you're losing 6-4, and
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  Speaker 3: Blackwood's save percentage was 860, and Wedgwood was 875, then yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Much different sort of feeling, isn't it? Because you have
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  Speaker 3: faith in the thing that you've seen over and over again,
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  Speaker 3: and despite the success that Wedgie and Blackwood had last year,
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  Speaker 3: there still seemed to be some sort of tinge of
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  Speaker 3: hesitation and confidence within them. But Wedgie Wood kept you
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  Speaker 3: in the game last night. You get outshot like that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's actually a game in the third period still somehow.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a pretty big feather in the cap
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  Speaker 3: for Scott Wedgwood last night. So the Avs drop both
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  Speaker 3: games of this road trip. They now come back home.
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  Speaker 3: They take on Tampa in a couple of days as
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  Speaker 3: they try and find the winning track again. It's Tampa
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  Speaker 3: on Friday night, and then it is at Nashville, followed
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  Speaker 3: by two more home games against Jersey again, and then Calgary.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they got a chance to get things
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  Speaker 3: right here coming up soon.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people in the text line said, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if Nate's not the same since that fight with Hintz.
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  Speaker 3: He's fine. He's fine. He's had a couple bad games.
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  Speaker 1: Well, just for the record, I was never the same
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  Speaker 1: after that brawl I had with Chris Apple in sixth grade.
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  Speaker 1: Just wasn't the same. Didn't react the same. Emotionally, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the same. Everything about me changed.
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  Speaker 3: That brawl. Wasn't it just one punch square to the
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  Speaker 3: nose from Chris Apple?
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, he missed my nose. He broke my glasses
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  Speaker 1: and the fight ended right there. When you break somebody's
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  Speaker 1: glasses automatically, I don't know if you know the rules
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  Speaker 1: of engagement, but these are written in the Bible, in
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  Speaker 1: the fight Bible. If you break another person's glasses during
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  Speaker 1: a fight, fight ends automatically. And I had just purchased
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  Speaker 1: those frames. My parents bought them for me. And they
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  Speaker 1: were expensive. And they broke.
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  Speaker 3: No kidding. I've seen those glasses. They're expensive because they
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  Speaker 3: have three inches thick of glass.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's fine. But there's just no need for that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a fight is supposed to be special, supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be raw. And when you aim for a guy's glasses,
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  Speaker 1: it's just not cool. You had the same glasses.
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  Speaker 6: This aggression will not stand, man.
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  Speaker 3: You had the same glasses as the dude from Trailer
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  Speaker 3: Park Boys. This thick.
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  Speaker 1: Again, if you're going to throw a punch as a
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  Speaker 1: sixth grader, aim for the ribs. Leave this alone. I
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  Speaker 1: got glasses on.
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  Speaker 3: The glasses were so big, I'm surprised it didn't hurt
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  Speaker 3: just Chris Apple's hand. NBA season is underway, but the
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets have to wait until Thursday to finally get on
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  Speaker 3: That's WilhiteWins.com. I got a trivia question for you-ish. Or
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  Speaker 3: just a stat. Through six weeks of the NFL season,
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  Speaker 3: How many snaps do you think the Broncos offense has
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  Speaker 3: taken with a lead?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me think about this. With a lead?
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  Speaker 3: With a lead.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, the entire first half against the Chargers. First
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  Speaker 1: half against the Chargers. I'm trying to remember. Did they
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  Speaker 1: ever lead against KC? I don't think so. They don't
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  Speaker 1: think they ever led in that game. In the last game,
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  Speaker 1: they led for all of it, but the last six minutes,
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  Speaker 1: two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I'll ask it another way. Where do you think they
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  Speaker 3: rank as far as snaps with a lead on offense
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  Speaker 3: in the league?
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  Speaker 1: I'll say middle of the pack.
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  Speaker 3: You're 26th in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Despite being a four and two football team, which again
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  Speaker 3: is crazy. The total number is 82.
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  Speaker 1: So there were come back team like they were, you know,
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  Speaker 1: last year. I mean, you could, you could apply the
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  Speaker 1: same stat to last season.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, of course you could. Um, There is one team
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  Speaker 3: in the league that has zero snaps with a lead
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 1: Who is it? Zero snaps? Miami? Yeah, it's Miami.
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  Speaker 3: They haven't taken a single snap with a lead this season.
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  Speaker 1: Which team has held the lead most? Is it KC?
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  Speaker 3: By the way, the Tennessee Titans have six after their
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  Speaker 3: win last week.
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  Speaker 1: Is KC number one? They are not.
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  Speaker 3: KC is number 10.
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco number one?
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  Speaker 3: They are number four.
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  Speaker 1: Who in the hell has had the lead the most then? Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Chicago, Baltimore, and ironically, New England is number three after
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  Speaker 3: their terrible start to the year. But say all that
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: to go back to kind of what we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about earlier. We brought up the idea, hey, would you
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: make a trade for Jonathan Taylor? How much would that
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  Speaker 3: stuff matter?
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  Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: I think the bigger thing here is, and this is
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  Speaker 3: a realization that I've come to, and it is encouraging.
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  Speaker 3: Think about this for a second. The schedule that you
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  Speaker 3: went through in the first six weeks, that the Chargers
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  Speaker 3: are the one sort of clunker in there. The Rams,
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  Speaker 3: who knows? They're two and four. I think that people
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  Speaker 3: are still kind of holding out that maybe the Rams
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  Speaker 3: can be something this season. But everybody else, KC's a
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  Speaker 3: good football team. They're undefeated. San Francisco's a good football team.
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  Speaker 3: They're undefeated. The Jags, Vic, pretty good football team. Yeah, Jacksonville,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: pretty good. And then Seattle, who is the defending champions,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: they have some problems of their own, but still a
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: good football team. Think about if this offense just gets marginal.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Is it fair to say this, Vic? The offense quite
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: literally can't play worse than they have the last couple
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: of weeks, right? It can't get worse than what they've done.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I guess they haven't really turned the ball over. So
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: from that sense, maybe it could. But from just a
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: production standpoint, Bo Nix threw for 107 yards last week
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: and 127 the week beforehand. If we're talking about him
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: being a high floor and low ceiling quarterback, this is
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: the floor. It doesn't get worse than what that's been
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: the last two weeks. Which means, if you go 4-2
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: with that level of play, minimal improvement offensively can lead
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: to drastically different and better results on the scoreboard, it
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: feels like. If this is the worst you can play
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: on offense and you're 4-2 against good opponents, think about
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: what happens if you're just okay offensively. If that's all
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: you get. You would take a huge jump. You would
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: be winning games by 14 points.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: All right. Dare I ask you.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: Here we are.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: It's halfway through the week. What do you expect to
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: see on Sunday, Brad Kane?
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not expecting anything different than what I have seen.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Do people think that suddenly, do I have a switch
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: in this room? I'm trying to flip a switch. Do
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you think the switch can be flipped? Because we spoke
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: to Adam yesterday, Adam Schefter, and he kept referring to that. Like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it happens. You know, you see it. You see it happens.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: You flip it. I don't think that's the case here.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they have that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Because I saw the flip. See, the reason I don't
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: think that's the case is here. I saw the switch flipped.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in the first half the other night. I saw it
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: against Seattle. Two sustained drives that were the two best
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: drives of the season, correct?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Did we see that?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: The two best drives of the season.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: So, switch, flipped. We saw it. Physically flipped. Then what happened?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: And then it flipped back.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Like the fuse broke.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was actually worse than it's ever been.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so... I don't know what to do with that information.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It's not as if they're not capable. Here's the mistake
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I've made, and I want to apologize for this. Every
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: time there's an offensive problem, I'm always going to put
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: it on Bo's shoulders. I'm going to say them, the offense,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: rather than him.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Because I know it's a team thing. Them, not him.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that anymore. Them. For whatever reason. They
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: went from dynamic, consistent... Capable, I mean, just cruising through
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that game for one quarter of play, like, wow, look
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: at this. 16 play drive, followed by a nine play drive,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: finding the end zone with ease, and then forgetting how
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to move the ball? How do you do that?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: People always make the comparison of the Broncos are like
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: the Vikings. And in some ways, they are. Really good
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: defense that is propping up an offense that's not very good.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: But the Vikings do have one aspect of their offense
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: that works. They can run the football. Like, they have
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: one thing that at least they can they can go
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: back to, which is they got a back in the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: backfield and Aaron Jones that they're like, if I give
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: him the ball, I trust him to make a play.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Like I don't need to put this all on Kyler
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Murray or Carson Wentz to do something. We can at
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: least run the football and pick up a couple of
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: first downs and move the chains that way. The Broncos
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: don't have that. And that's where, you know, I know
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: we've all, and myself in particular, been very critical of
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix this year. And I think deservedly so. But
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: it's not just him. They can't do anything on offense.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And a lot of it is how you construct the offense.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: This texture, 7-5, 4-9. They switched and flipped back in
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the second half. Because Sean Payton called the most conservative
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: game plan anyone has ever seen. It was not to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: lose rather than to win. Now, I'm not going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: dispute that because it did look different in the second half.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: It did. But you know Sean Payton. Everyone that listens
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to this show, do you know, are we talking about
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the same guy? The same guy who tried an onside
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: kick to begin the second half of a Super Bowl?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: The same guy who attempted an onside kick to start
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: his career with the Broncos? That Sean Payton? That guy,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: he doesn't come off as that... conservative coach. He's not him.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what I don't get, Vic. It's, well, it
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: was super conservative in the second half. And my question is, well,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: what was conservative? Was it the actual play call? Was
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: it Bo Nix not taking a shot? But I don't
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: know how we can say.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, do you.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Think Sean Payton constructs a playbook in the second half?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're just going to three now and punt.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: No.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, of course not.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: But do I think that Sean Payton might think to himself,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I got a quarterback who's leaking confidence right now with
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: the defense who's playing really well. I'm not going to
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: make the most aggressive play calls I can make. Yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I bet that's in his head. It would be in
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: my head if I was the offensive play caller. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: how can you say that the... Play calling was conservative
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: because I've heard this over and over again, but when
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: people show film of it, you see open people downfield
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: that just don't get attempted with a target. You know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: would it feel less conservative, Vic, if Bo Nix hit
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: an open receiver 15 yards downfield? Probably. But if he
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: doesn't take the shot and he just dumps it off,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: then of course you're going to think it's conservative.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: 2239, how do you take a shot when the coach
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: only calls screenplays? I disagree with you. There was a
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: play in the second half of that game, I believe
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it was the third quarter, and I'll reference this again.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Marvin Mims ran a, it was a go route, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: he got to about 20 yards and just pulled up,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: didn't even look back, just pulled up. Yeah. Almost as
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: if knowing, this guy's not going to pull the trigger.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I still wonder it was he pulling up was, did
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: it look that way? Cause I saw the same thing
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: because he was like, he's not going to throw me
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: the football or was it because he was just somebody
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to clear out. He was, he was to clear out
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: for somebody underneath.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Could be. But then how does that explain a waddle
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: on several occasions doing this?
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Like there is very obviously something totally discombobulated in that offense.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: And you know, I thought about this at the time. Um,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: When you are struggling on offense but winning football games,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and it's early in the season, and you just went
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: to a new play caller in the offseason, this is
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: why I thought that Sean Payton taking the play calling
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: back was just premature and too early. Because one thing
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: is for sure, Vic, whatever you thought of the Davis
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Webb experience the first four weeks, the last two have
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: been worse than that. The last two have been worse
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: than what Davis Webb has done.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Harder to watch.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: But the point to that was, The team and the
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: offense can feel that they aren't clicking right, like something's off,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: and they got to get that fixed. And I think
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: that by the head coach taking play-calling duties back, it
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: sounded an alarm that maybe they knew kind of internally,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: but didn't put it at the forefront and in the
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: spotlight to where they're asked about it all the time.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: My boy G-Man says, what if it's just a case
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of Seattle making adjustments at halftime? And those adjustments work.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, that could be a case.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: True.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But here's what I don't get. Okay, adjustments. Usually an
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: opposing team will figure those adjustments out by late fourth quarter, right?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And it'll have a counter to those. The drive that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: gets me, the one drive that had me just pulling
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: my hair out, and it's what put me over the top,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: was after the interception on the sidelines, and there's a
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: minute 27 to play in the game, and you followed
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that up with a 15-second offensive possession. I know. That's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the one. The other ones were like, okay, you're not
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: getting in the end zone, you're not getting points, but
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the game should be over. You forced a turnover with
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: less than two to play, and you follow that with
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: a 15-second drive.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: And here's my beef with that, Vic. Think about this
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: for a second. You have a lead. That lead is
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: given up because in the second half, you had a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: nine-play drive, a four-play drive, a three-play drive, and 18, sorry,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I'm saying plays, I mean yards. Nine-yard, four-yard, three-yard, 18-yard,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: negative 10-yard, two-yard, and negative one-yard drive heading into overtime.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: So we always get these like, Bo Nix, very good
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, good at fourth quarter comebacks, right?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Was that game a comeback for Bo Nix? Or was
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: that game the defense had to do it? Bo Nix
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: didn't do anything to get themselves into field goal range.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: You intercepted a pass that started to drive at the
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: 43-yard line. That's the defense. That's the defense with a
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter comeback.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Much like the Chargers game.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: Yes, exactly right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: The defense was the offense.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: So he's getting credit for the fourth quarter comeback thing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: And I think in cases in the past, that's been
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: viable and true. But in the last two weeks, it
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: certainly hasn't been. And you're right. They get the ball
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: back up three with a minute 25 on the clock,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and you can't pick up a first down. You burn
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: 15 seconds off, and that gives Seattle enough time to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: kick a field goal. You want to know how you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: get credit for that? Is you ice the game with
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a first down. That's all you needed. One first down,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: 10 yards, like 30 feet.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Moved the ball 30 feet. They lost yards.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: And that's what drives me nuts. You can't ignore that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: You had an 11-point lead going into the fourth quarter,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: and you just couldn't make a singular first down.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: To keep Seattle off the field. Seattle, they got one, two, three,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: four possessions in the fourth quarter alone, down 11. Yeah,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: that's a bad recipe.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Season ticket holder here writes this, Texter. There were four
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Seattle fans in front of us at the game, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: when that happened, they turned to us and said, are
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you trying to give this game back to us? That's
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: how I felt.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: That's how I felt after that drive. You know, that's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: almost as if, okay, a first down clinches it. Let's
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: get our heads together. Not only go double tight end,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: let's go triple tight end. Let's make every player on
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the field a tight end. I don't care. Everybody know
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you're a tight end.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: A goal line formation.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And just run the ball four yards a carry
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and end the game. Instead, what did we see on
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that drive? It was Monty Python on that drive. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: that's the one. If you remove that drive from the game,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I would probably have a different take on all this. Yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: To be totally honest with you, I would.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: All I'm saying is, you know, there's a stat that
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: ESPN had the other day. And this is why the Broncos,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I think, continue to thrive in these kind of environments,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: despite what we're talking about here. There have been 31
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: games this year, Vic, in the NFL, with a game-winning
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: score in the final five minutes of regulation or overtime.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: It's the most... Through week six in NFL history.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Parody. This is what they want.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Who thrives more in that environment than the Denver Broncos?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, they have.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: It's the one superpower that you possess that gets you
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: through all this stuff.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Again, not to relive this, but the most unsettling part
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: of that last game is that usually it's the Broncos
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: doing all the rallying. It's the Broncos waking up in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, that was weird. And the roles
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: were reversed, and we really don't know what to do
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the other thing, Vic. I said, I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: was watching the game with a buddy, and I go, well,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: how do they handle a lead in the second half? Like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: when you're up 11, how do you handle that? Can
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you put the game away? And it's like, no, we're just,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: whatever we have to do, if we have to get
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: back in the game or if we have to let
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: the league go, we just need, we need to feel
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: some sort of tension.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask you the same question. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: started this segment with this question. How do you feel
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: about Sunday at Arizona? Because I said this at the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: beginning of the season, and it still rings true right now.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: You can't assume anything with this team. You can feel
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: good about a game or an opponent. But if you're
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the Mark Mosher of schedules, and what would Mark Mosher
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: say about this game?
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Big time win.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Guaranteed.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You're just dumb if you think that way.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: Broncos don't play till Sunday. So that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say that Mosher's dumb. He's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: just very asleep right now. So I could say. To
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: assume that this team can beat anybody, any given Sunday. Sure,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: they can. But to assume it's a done deal. Are
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: you watching the same game?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I think you could. I think it's totally safe to
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: assume that they win. I don't think it would be
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: wise at all to assume that anything is easy. Like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: here's my guess.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: You're going to be sweating at some point.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's my guess. I'll tell you exactly what I
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: think is going to happen this weekend. I think the
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Broncos win. And I think I'm going to hate the game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: And I think at the end of it, you're going
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to be like, that was way closer than it had
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: to be. Like, I think all of that's going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: apply again. And by the way, For those who doubt it,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: the Rams have a pretty good offense, don't they? Stafford, Nakula,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Kyron Williams. They lost to a team that kicks six
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: field goals. This team kicked six field goals last week
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: and beat them.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And at home.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Exactly right. I think it's totally fair to assume the
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Broncos win this weekend. I think to assume that they
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: win comfortably is nuts.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: So 303-504-0925.
• 30:58
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• 31:00
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• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely nothing to do with all that.
• 31:15
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• 31:19
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• 31:21
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• 31:23
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  Speaker 3: I literally started the segment in Nelly's ear, and that
• 31:43
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• 31:46
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• 31:48
  Speaker 3: by the way, at 920 this morning, Vic, tell the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: people who was going to join us.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: The greatest day in Nuggets history. What day was it?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: It was parade day, was it not? Well, we were
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: celebrating that day. A gentleman who will join us at 920,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: he was enduring the nightmare of his life. His story
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: is emotional. Heartfelt and relevant, and we will visit with
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Justin Dodge at 9.20 this morning. Trust me when I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: say this, you do not want to miss it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: That'll be at 9.20. I'll kick things off here, and
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: we'll start with this. I know that there have been
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of different thoughts surrounding college football, and specifically
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: CSU this year, in their defense. Jim Mora fired his
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: defensive coordinator in the middle of a game earlier this season.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: They've been trying to fix things ever since. But if
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: you missed this, this is what he said at his
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: press conference a couple days ago.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: Kenny hasn't been home in two weeks. So we took
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: Jordan's office, our linebacker coach, and we turned it into
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: a bedroom for Kenny. So he just sleeps there.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: So that's the new defensive coordinator saying he's sleeping in
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: his office. Can I say something? This is ridiculous. I
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: know that, like, there's something about football coaches that I
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: feel like they wear that as a badge of honor.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, it's not that serious. Go home and
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: see your wife and kids.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: You took the words right out of my mouth. Every
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: football coach has it. Not everyone. I take that back.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Most of them have that mentality, like, I'm going to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: outwork you. More work isn't necessarily effective work.
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Just because you're grinding and hanging out at three in
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the morning looking at tape doesn't mean you're a better coach.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: It just means you're grinding. It just means you got
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: no other life. I don't know what you're trying to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: prove there. I don't get it. You know, if CSU,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: they gave up over 700 yards and the coach slept
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: in the office. What does that prove?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It's.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I truly feel like.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for him.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that work ethic is not something to
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: be admired, not to be admired. It is having good
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: work ethic is admired, but you also need some balance
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: in your life or you're going to go insane. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: you could get to the point where you're overanalyzing things.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: This is overdoing it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: This is moving gravel in a wheelbarrow, one gravel pebble
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: at a time. That's what this is sometimes, and that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: how coaches view it. Like, the more hours, the better. No, no.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: You didn't read it because you refused to read. The
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Seth Wickersham article, when he came to town and spent
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a week with Sean Payton before the AFC title game,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: or two weeks, actually. In that article, he talked about
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the amount of time that the coaches spent on one
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: particular play. Just one play out of so many. Hours
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: upon hours on the whiteboard, just maybe we do this,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: we do that. And I'm sitting there going, really? And
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: they ran the play, and guess what it did? Nothing.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: It didn't work. That's the thing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: If I spent that much time on a single play,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: and then it's like, oh, it's an incompletion, and you're like, oh, well,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: now what? Or, like, it's a holding penalty. You ruined
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: all that work in just that? I don't know. Oh,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: by the way, this is a crazy story. Did you
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: see the Titans cut defensive lineman Jordan Elliott the other day?
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is beyond crazy. This is scary, is what
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: it is. Good luck finding another job, Jordan Elliott.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: So on October 15th, they were at practice. Jordan Elliott's
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. He got into an altercation with the
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, J.C.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Latham.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Or I'm sorry, tackle, J.C.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Latham.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: He went to his car in the player's parking lot
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: afterwards and got a gun. And he was stopped by
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: none other than John Franklin Myers. who is now subsequently
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: cut because you can't take an altercation from the practice
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: field and go get a gun about it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait. John Franklin Myers isn't cut. No, no, no.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: John Franklin Myers stopped him.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Stopped him from taking that any further.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Exactly right. It could have been very tragic.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: That is nuts.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: What in the world? Because, Vic, we know the stories
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: way back in the day. Gilbert Arenas had a gun
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: in the locker room, right? And that became a huge thing.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That's unacceptable. Gunplay, that's what other players, other teammates know.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I got one. Oh, by the way. And I don't
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: even know what to say about this. Besides, I hope
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it's fake. A man in Virginia has been charged with
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: duct taping his wife to a chair in the basement
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: so he could watch football upstairs, quote, in peace. The
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: 64-year-old is now facing felony abduction and misdemeanor assault charges.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I repeat. A man in Virginia charged with duct taping
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: his wife to a chair in the basement so he
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: could watch football upstairs in peace.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Can I play his defense lawyer?
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Just if I had to argue. Ladies and gentlemen of
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: the jury. We all know your wife wants to mess
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: around during a football Saturday, right? We've all been there before.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I think we all have had the thought of duct
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: taping our wives so that we can just watch a game.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Am I right, fellas? Am I right? You've got to
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: follow it up. Plus, he's a good kid. He's a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: good kid. He's a good kid.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: He wants to watch the game.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: That's all.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: He's 64? That is unreal to me, that story. I mean,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the wife was so mad. I don't even know where
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to go with that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Well, no. Here's where you go with it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It's terrible.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: You shouldn't do that. It's also a little bit funny.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Just a little bit. Hey, do you know who the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: goaltender for the Calgary Flames is.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: So this man gave one of the best interviews.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, I saw this. I saw the guy was like
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: so jolly. He was so jolly and happy-go-lucky. He was
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the opposite of Belichick. Yes. So we all know the.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Narrative surrounding goalies and how weird they are. They're a
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: different breed of human beings. So in his case, he
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: has the in-intermission interview and says this.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. 34 saves in your night. Just how you
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: felt and what you saw as you looked out from
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: your crease. Yes, I felt nothing.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: The problem with me is that I have a lot
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: of fun playing, but when I start having too much fun,
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: it makes me into... from an unconscious goalie to a
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: conscious goalie, and my conscious brain is really bad at
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: playing goalie. So I have to let my unconscious brain
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: do the work, because it reacts a lot quicker. When
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: I'm having too much fun and I'm smiling and I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: talking to everybody and I'm hanging out, what happens is
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: that shifts me into more conscious, brain goalie and then
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: I can't react in time and then I'm slow I'm
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: behind the play and then I give up seven goals
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: you know but today it was just unconscious like don't
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: think about anything you know if you ask me how
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: I made a save I think I have no idea
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: just my unconscious brain does it and that's what you
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: work in practice for you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Know so just so you know that guy who rules
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: that's Devin Cooley former D Pioneer. Yes. Former Pio.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Why was he not interviewed here as a Pio? Because
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of talking. It's amazing. So, I'm in
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a different city, and yesterday I met the neighbor here.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And you know those, have you ever met someone who,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you meet them, Brett, he wouldn't stop talking. I had
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: to pull the fake phone call card out. Oh, you did?
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I had to go full. In fact, Terry's with me.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Not only did I pull the fake phone call, I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: did it while she was there and she was so
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: mad at me because it left her to talk.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Oh, and you duct taped her to the conversation?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Dude, this guy. God, I hope he's not listening. And
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: if you are, I apologize. But you're a great example
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: after hearing that interview. The amount of talking. It's a lot.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Now that I say that, I probably shouldn't see. Maybe
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: he is listening. No, no, no. Because I told him
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: what I do for a living.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: It was the other neighbor.
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say which neighbor it was. The
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: point is, a lot of talking. Like, imagine running into
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Mosier for the first time. Oh, God. Just the first time.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You've never met him in your life.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you remember Mosier's old neighbor when he was at
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: his old house, Mike, who lived across the street from him?
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I bet Mike felt that way.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: All the time. Mike felt 100%. Mike's like, this guy
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: won't stop talking. And I don't know how to turn
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: it off. I got an O, by the way, for you.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Crazy stat. 28 players from the 2020-21 NBA season. All right?
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Remember that season. 2020-21. Take yourself back. Only 28 players
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: from the NBA that season are still on their original
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: opening night rosters.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: 28 total?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: 28 players on opening night rosters with the same team.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: The, the nuggets have four players. They have four of
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the 28. Can you name them?
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: You'll get Jamal Gordon and Zeke.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Yeah. I didn't think you'd get the last one.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Zeke's been here for Zeke's been like Zeke's been here
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: since Dan Issel and David Thompson.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, that is 28 total.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah. Um, Oh, by the way, Michigan did it.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: They finally made the move. Tommy Carr, the prodigy of
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Lloyd Carr, by the way, is going to start this
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: weekend over Bryce Underwood against Indiana. So big game against IU,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: and they're going to Tommy Carr. Whenever I hear this, Vic,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: if you were the booster that paid millions to get
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Bryce Underwood there, are you losing your mind, or are
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: you understanding of the decision?
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: What do you do?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: But on the surface, you're a Michigan fan more than
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: you are your donor, right?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I get it, but it's your money.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: But would you be more mad that they aren't continuing
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to play Bryce Underwood, or would you be happy that
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: this feels like it's the right move to make?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Dude, I've heard from a couple donors, boosters, who have
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: that kind of money, and the reaction I've gotten is this.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: What do I get out of it? Why would I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: give my money directly to a player? If I'm going
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: to give my money, it's going to go to the team.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to go to a resource. It's going to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: go to something that helps everybody. Why would I give
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: my hard-earned money to a specific player who is basically, hey,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, he's out. He's outie. That's
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a waste of money. That's why I've never understood giving
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: your money directly to a player in the college ranks.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I would never do that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: That is not under any obligation to stay beyond five weeks.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Would you do that? Let's say you're a passionate donor
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: of UNO Omaha, and you had money to give to
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that baseball team. Would you say, here's millions for this
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: specific player, or would you give it to the field team?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to the facilities, what would you do?
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: No, I, if, if anything, maybe, yeah, something like overall
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: a field upgrade or something and say, Hey, I get
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: a suite whenever I want to, or something like that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: I would, I couldn't give it to an individual player,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: not in this era. If it changes at some point
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden it becomes like, Hey,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: they have to stay there for three years. Maybe that changes,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: but I don't know.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, Garage door making some crazy noise?
• 43:44
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• 43:47
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