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The Stuff Eats YOU Alive - Xenomania 70 · Xenomania

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  Jon: this week on Xenomania, join us as we head into the snack food aisle
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  of your local grocery store for a taste we just can't get enough of.
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  And that is the stuff along the way.
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  You'll find out why they call him Mo.
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  And you'll get three exciting top fives.
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  This is Xenomania.
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  Ryan: Just can't get enough of the stuff.
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  The stuff,
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  Kearns: there.
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  Ryan: Hey, the stuff is a great movie.
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  The first time watch.
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  I am very disappointed that it has taken me.
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  How long now?
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  Like
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  Kearns: Your
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  Ryan: it like
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: Yeah, 30.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: years.
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  Jon: Movies been out.
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  Movies, movies.
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  Been out longer than Ryan's Been out.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Like 40, 40, 46 years.
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  No, 40 years, right?
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  Jon: Came out in 85.
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  85. 41 years.
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  Ryan: 41
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  Kearns: I was two years old.
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  That was a good year.
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  85. I remember.
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  Well
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  Jon: I hope so.
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  Kearns: on my, Cheerios that year.
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  Jon: sugar on your Cheerios, and round up in your coffee.
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  Kearns: yummy, yummy, yummy.
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  Yeah.
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  We're gonna get into the roundup, uh, parallels shortly, everybody.
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  But yeah, this is Zeno Mania.
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  We're gonna be talking about this stuff.
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  You guys better be excited 'cause this damn good movie.
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  Ryan: It,
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  Jon: Damn good.
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  Ryan: an underrated movie, I feel, because it like, I mean like, it
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  starts off with like the acting's.
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  Okay.
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  But then it builds up and you start liking the characters.
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  You're kind of getting in, like you're backing up their, cause
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  you're backing up the story, it gets into it for like a B movie.
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  It's pretty deep about corporate greed as we were saying and stuff.
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  Kearns: a bee movie back then.
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  Ryan: I,
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  Kearns: be considered a bee movie back then?
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  Ryan: I, I
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  Jon: of, I mean that
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  Ryan: I.
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  Jon: Larry Cohen wasn't getting like big time properties or
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  anything, or big time budgets.
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  So this is
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  Kearns: Okay.
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  Jon: probably be, and then, but I mean, that's Larry Cohen.
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  He's one of those guys that always got so much more out of stories and
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  productions than you thought possible, like his whole career was that.
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  Kearns: the number of sets and stuff like that was what popped out to me.
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  You know, like the corporate.
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  Headquarters and they're in the factory and they're at the mines.
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  I was like, there's a lot going on here.
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  Figured
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: little bit of money.
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  The
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  Jon: I,
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  Kearns: so
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  Jon: don't, I don't think it's a huge budget.
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  The,
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  Kearns: stuff.
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  That's it.
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  1.7 million to make this.
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  That's it.
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  Ryan: Yep, 1.7 million,
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  Kearns: they did a good job.
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  Jon: I mean, when you think about it, there, there's some, there's some names
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  in there, but they're not really names that were that big at that point in time.
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  Like I think Paul Sino was
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  Kearns: the
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Jon: Danny Ala were both kind of big, but they weren't into that
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  much, so you didn't have to pay.
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  Ryan: Fair?
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  Yeah.
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  Kearns: shocked that the lead was as good as he was.
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  when I started watching it, I was like, all right, this
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  guy's gonna be a big stinker.
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  'cause he's just such a weird, he's like, not, he's not a tool or anything,
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  but he's an awkward leading man
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  Ryan: Mo
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  Kearns: leans into it so hard and it works
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  Jon: Yep.
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  David Mo Rutherford.
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  Why do they call him Mo?
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  Because every, every time you give him money, he always wants more
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  Kearns: between that and chocolate chip, was that it?
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  Ryan: chocolate
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  Jon: Chip Charlie.
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  Kearns: Chocolate chip Charlie.
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  I was like, this movie's outta control.
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  Ryan: It.
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  Jon: Chocolate chip
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  Ryan: so great.
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  Jon: played by Garrett Morris.
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  Who, what Of the few actors I've seen, not particularly like working for Larry Cohen.
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  Kearns: Really, he did not like it.
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  Jon: Hmm.
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  He's never outright said it.
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  He's, he did one of those in an interview.
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  my mama taught me not to say something about somebody if I didn't have
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  something nice to say kind of thing.
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  Which is really, I think I understand it too, because he
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  wasn't Larry Cohen's choice.
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  Ryan: Okay.
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  Jon: Larry Cohen wanted a young pre coming to America, Arsenio Hall.
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  Ryan: Oh, okay.
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  Kearns: mean, that would've been the choice though
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  Ryan: That would've been cool, especially
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  Jon: That would've been a cool choice, but I, I think an older guy works.
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  Kearns: It did work.
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  he crushed that part,
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  Ryan: also Garrett Morris.
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  And
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: a underrated actor.
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  He is just great.
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  I mean,
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  Kearns: He's in a bunch.
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  Was
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: Dundee too?
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  I don't know if he was actually, maybe not.
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  Ryan: I remember him from the
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  Jon: Yeah,
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  Kearns: in a
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  Ryan: Jamie Fox
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  Jon: he was car wash.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Yes.
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  Kearns: wash my guy over here.
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  That's elite ball knowledge right there, John.
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  As the kids would say,
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  Jon: I mean, listen, I'm cheating a little bit.
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  I have his filmography up.
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  Kearns: you don't confess to less, bro.
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  They don't need to know that.
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  Ryan: We'll just erase that.
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  Jon: He was a cab driver and ant man also.
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  Kearns: sick.
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  Ryan: Which you have not seen probably 'cause you're against Marvel.
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  Jon: No, I saw up to that point.
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  the last one I saw was the one after the snapping everybody out of existence thing.
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  Kearns: And oh, so you saw Infinity War and then you stopped before Endgame.
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  Jon: No, I saw the, one after the snapping everyone out of end game.
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  That was like 18 hours long or something.
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  I was like, I'm, I'm pretty done with this stuff.
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  This is a lot of time to invest.
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  I could watch,
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  Ryan: hours
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  Jon: could watch, I could watch two movies like the stuff in that period of time
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  Kearns: It's fair.
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  Jon: and I'd pro I'd be a lot happier.
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  So Marvel.
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  Kearns: um,
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  Ryan: movies.
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  Kearns: to vector us away from the MCU, I liked how they, uh, began the stuff
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  with like your, the isolation vibes, the family, the kid stuck with his everything.
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  They started out pretty funny, like tremor style too, where the guy's like, what's
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  this stuff when it's coming bubbling
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Kearns: they just steamroll right into it.
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  They don't waste time.
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  Jon: It's bubbling out of the ground and this dude thinks the
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  best thing to do is taste it.
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  Ryan: Exactly.
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  Kearns: I knew I was, I mean, I was like dying when I watched this.
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  I was very sick watching this movie.
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  and I made it through the entire thing.
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  I had to pause it a few times to like go puke and stuff.
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  But other than that, I made it through in one sitting and I enjoyed
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  it thoroughly the entire time.
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  And that right there, like that was probably my first smile in 72 hours when
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  he just reaches down and touches it.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Yep.
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  Kearns: are you doing?
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  Huh?
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  Ryan: It is like what you don't do in a horror movie, you know?
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  And like
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  Kearns: movie,
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  Ryan: I, it's bubbling out the ground.
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  Kearns: out of the ground and put
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  Jon: In in, in real.
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  Yeah.
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  In real life.
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  If it's coming out of the ground, don't put it in your mouth.
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  Like
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  Ryan: please
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  Jon: check the, if you don't know what it is, don't put it in your mouth.
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  Kearns: and then as one might expect, instantly,
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  Jon: Instant.
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  Yep.
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  Kearns: addiction.
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  Ryan: And they put a name on it and they call it the stuff.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: that.
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  So of course, corporate America gets their hands on it.
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  They throw it into Greek yogurt, uh, containers.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: like ricotta cheese actually is what it reminded me of.
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  they, uh, mass
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  Ryan: Really?
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  Kearns: and sell and everybody starts eating the stuff.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  I've, I've always thought of this stuff as like, killer, cool, whip.
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  Ryan: Ooh.
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  Kearns: that's a
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: it.
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  Ryan: It's like the, like the jiggle and stuff.
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  It's like,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: Cool Whip probably was cool.
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  Whip
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  Kearns: of got
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  Jon: It might have been, yeah, I see the fluff too.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  The shaving.
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  Kearns: coming outta the mattress and things like that.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: ooh, trippy.
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  Ryan: it
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  Jon: When, when the, when the stuff starts to move, that's when
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  it, like, that's the warning sign.
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  Like, let's not eat this anymore.
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  Kearns: Now they're like, devouring it, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, no.
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  Jon: Jason's the only one that figures it out for a while.
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  Ryan: yeah, he does,
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  Kearns: it's always good.
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  It's always a kid.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: but it's accident.
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  You know?
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  He just wanted a, like a late night snack.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: he does is open the fridge and he sees it just dancing.
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  Jon: Yeah,
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  Ryan: a little wave.
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  Jon: yeah,
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  Ryan: No John Goodman, no dancing.
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  Kearns: isn't, his dad like kind of beat him a little bit
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  Ryan: Yeah,
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  Kearns: him at the fridge, like that's very 1985.
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  He's like, Hey,
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  Jon: Oh, yeah.
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  All right.
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  What do in the fridge, whack,
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  Ryan: you're
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  Jon: to bed Whack,
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  Kearns: for 40 seconds and he gotta fetch a switch.
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  Jon: and then, and then it, then it's like, it's.
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  So eighties.
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  It's not over in the morning either
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  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
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  Jon: they at breakfast, he's still taking this cheap shots at the kid
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  for being up in the middle of the night looking for something to eat.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  They didn't let it go.
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  You're right about that too.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Oh, you're giving me PTSD actually,
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  Ryan: It,
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  My, me too, my own traumas there too.
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  Kearns: So the kid, refuses to eat the stuff 'cause he saw it moving, but
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  the rest of the family's on board big
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: they kind of, they kind of take a break from him and
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  them for a little bit and they
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: what's going on with this private investigator style guy.
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  But he's not, he's like a corporate fixer,
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  Jon: He's, he's a corporate spy
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  Kearns: corporate
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  Jon: and he's for
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  Kearns: apparently.
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  Jon: ex FBI Corp, current Corporate Spy, and he is hired
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  by the Snack Food Consortium to.
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  Figure out a way to bring this stuff down because it's cutting into their profits.
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  Kearns: I mean, it was probably cutting into every food
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  source's profits by that point.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: yeah.
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  Kearns: then he goes immediately to the marketing exec, and.
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  Starts flirting with her
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: James Bond style and it works Everybody, it just works.
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  He's like, Hey, I'm tall and I have money.
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  And she's like, he, he, he, and they become a thing instantaneously.
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  But yeah, he, that's kind of like where the journey goes and then it just
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  turns sort of into an almost like a who done it style, not a who done it,
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  but like, um, like a private detective style sort of investigation where
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  they're just going from place to place, figuring more out about the stuff.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Yep.
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  He, he meets up with the fallen corporate executive chocolate chip Charlie.
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  Kearns: That's the best.
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  Jon: Whose family sold his company right out from under him
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  Ryan: It is
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  Jon: whose hands are registered as deadly weapons.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  He's got all the lines.
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  Charlie,
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  Ryan: Master
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: fu
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Good old chocolate chip Charlie.
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  Kearns: kind of difficult set times while watching this to
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  like pinpoint why it's so good.
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  Like right up to when you get about right up to Chocolate chip
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  Charlie, you're watching and you're going, this is a good movie.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: this thoroughly, but you can't really figure out why.
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  There's elements of a bunch of other things that you've
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  experienced before in it.
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  jingles, the anything super eighties is always fun and 85 is like, we've
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  talked about this before, where the eighties don't really start until 1983.
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  That's like late seventies up to that point.
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  Same way the nineties don't start until like 1993.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: but when you're in 85, you're in prime neon pants eighties,
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: that pretty well in this.
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  Jon: They do.
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  And some of the cultural icon touchstone people pop up and they're like, Clara
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  Plar, you know, sort of reprising, where's the beef with, where's the stuff with,
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  you know, a Abe Vigoda playing the, his typical cranky beleaguered husband.
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  Kearns: Yep.
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  Ryan: Yep.
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  Kearns: have like a news, uh, didn't they have a TV personality
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  do a plug for the stuff as well?
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  Was it like a, was it like the Tonight Show or something?
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's
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  Ryan: Some similar.
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  Kearns: who it was.
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  Could
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  Jon: yeah.
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  Kearns: but I'm not sure which one.
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  But it was definitely a real personality
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: in the movie, and I don't know how they pulled that off
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  with their $1.7 million budget.
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  Jon: I mean, that's the thing that I got, I go back to with, um,
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  Garrett Morrison, Larry Cohen is.
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  And he might have just asked those people to do it.
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  People liked working for him, so it's weird that, this one person did not.
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  Kearns: There's always that guy.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  You know, I just have to believe that it was a result of not being
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  the first choice and it, Larry Cohen probably didn't hide it.
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  Kearns: He's been, he's probably been passed over as the first
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  choice in a million projects.
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  Jon: That, yeah.
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  Kearns: a hard time believing that's the only reason.
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  'cause it's him.
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  He's a, he's a guy,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: sadly.
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  Kearns: not Don Cheadle talking about here.
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  Ryan: No, no, not Denzel.
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  Kearns: Denzel not the guy.
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  the guy, but even like, he's not even like the number two guy.
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  He is not like your
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  Ryan: He's like the four,
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  Kearns: Del
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  Ryan: is sad,
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  Kearns: like that.
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  Yeah, it's true though.
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  It's
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  Ryan: you know?
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  you're seeing how the stuff captures the eighties perfectly, and it does,
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  and that's what I think brings, I think people who lived through the
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  eighties or lived during that time more to this movie is a familiarity.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: of the colors.
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  And it's like also a good beat too, like the story, like an hour and a half, but
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  it doesn't feel like an hour and a half.
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  It goes
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  Jon: Oh, it's, yeah, it's a very tight hour and a half and
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  there's, so on the arrow release, there's a 30 minute longer cut.
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  I watched it.
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  It's,
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  Ryan: does it
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  Jon: I some like, there's more of the non-story elements to it.
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  There's more of the commercials and the music and that stuff, and a, you
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  know, a little bit more to the plot.
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  But I know Larry Cohen prefers the extra 30 minutes, but I think it's a
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  better movie at an hour and a half.
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  Ryan: Okay.
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  Kearns: 90 minutes is the sweet spot.
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  Unless you're doing something special and
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Kearns: to keep people's attention for that.
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  You can't extend like a, a piece of Americana kind of thing.
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  Like this is to pass 90 without really risking stuff, in my opinion.
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  I agree with you.
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  'cause that you're right about that tight 90 minutes.
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  It's like it doesn't waste a second and it's perfect.
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  it ends perfectly.
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  It lands like little cliffhanger, leaves a bit open for a sequel.
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  You're
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Yep.
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  Ryan: Even.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: the after credits.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Yeah.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  You could still do it.
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  Yeah, you could still do it.
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  Kearns: fast forward on a VHS.
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  Ryan: Oh, I
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
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  Ryan: 'cause I can't
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  Jon: Or you,
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  Ryan: of this stuff.
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  Jon: or you just watch through, watch the credits and you know.
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  Kearns: What do you think it tastes like This stuff.
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  Ryan: A fluff.
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  Fluff.
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  Kearns: think it is Fluffer Nutter.
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  Ryan: I, I think,
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  Kearns: Well,
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  Ryan: I mean.
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  Kearns: John's already got something.
• 15:13
  Ryan: Or cool
• 15:14
  Jon: I've had, I've long had this belief.
• 15:17
  I think this stuff tastes like your favorite thing.
• 15:20
  I think this stuff doesn't taste like anything on its own.
• 15:24
  I think it tastes like what you want it to taste like.
• 15:27
  Ryan: like manipulating the mind.
• 15:30
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 15:31
  Ryan: would work out
• 15:32
  Kearns: your
• 15:32
  Ryan: actually.
• 15:33
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 15:34
  Kearns: pace buds.
• 15:35
  Ryan: Hmm
• 15:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 15:36
  And that you can't stop eating it until you're a hollowed out stuffy
• 15:40
  Kearns: You know, what's
• 15:41
  Ryan: hmm.
• 15:41
  Kearns: refreshing about this?
• 15:42
  Did they ever do any sequels or anything like that?
• 15:46
  Jon: for the stuff.
• 15:46
  No.
• 15:47
  Ryan: Oh,
• 15:47
  Kearns: refreshing about it is, is that you don't find out if it's like
• 15:50
  an alien entity or if it is just like, um, a colony of fungus or if it's
• 15:56
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 15:56
  Kearns: or that.
• 15:56
  You don't ever find that out.
• 15:58
  And I kind of think it strengthens the movie
• 16:00
  Jon: Yeah.
• 16:01
  Be any explanation kind of kind of minimizes it.
• 16:05
  It takes some of it away.
• 16:07
  I.
• 16:07
  Kearns: because then you're getting into the blob and there
• 16:09
  was multiple times watching this movie where I saw, okay, I was like,
• 16:12
  okay, this reminds me of the blob.
• 16:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:14
  Kearns: me of the blob.
• 16:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:16
  Kearns: they never ever get into the point where it's derivative of the
• 16:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:20
  Kearns: because this is the stuff,
• 16:22
  Jon: Yep.
• 16:22
  Kearns: if that makes sense to anybody out.
• 16:24
  It even dies to fire
• 16:26
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 16:27
  Jon: Yep.
• 16:28
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 16:28
  Kearns: Well, actually the blob doesn't die to fire,
• 16:31
  Ryan: It gets hurt though.
• 16:33
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 16:33
  Ryan: it's a strong similarity, especially like how it moves in certain scenes.
• 16:37
  I was
• 16:37
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:38
  Ryan: are you gonna turn purple, are you not?
• 16:41
  But as I was watching it too, I was thinking of like old old xFi episode
• 16:46
  called Ice Be In the Episode real quick.
• 16:49
  Um, they find like this warm life form that's frozen in Antarctica,
• 16:53
  which supposedly they have Yeah.
• 16:56
  They, they find in, it's got like the mind control and stuff.
• 16:59
  And I was thinking about it while watching the stuff like.
• 17:03
  Because reading the synopsis is, everyone says it's an alien entity
• 17:07
  and it's like coming from the earth.
• 17:08
  Like
• 17:09
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:09
  Ryan: something further down on the earth as like think or suppose.
• 17:14
  And it could just be something like we said, like another entity or I
• 17:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:19
  Ryan: with Symbio because how it affects, you know, the whole body and controls.
• 17:26
  Jon: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Kearns: Well, there's lots of viruses that we've gotten, um, afflicted
• 17:30
  with throughout our history and stuff like that that have changed us.
• 17:34
  Like it's just a thing or it's changed our physiology and things
• 17:39
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:40
  Kearns: not outta the question at all
• 17:42
  Jon: Yeah,
• 17:43
  Kearns: If it's like a war.
• 17:43
  John's totally bored with this.
• 17:45
  John's like,
• 17:45
  Ryan: Sorry.
• 17:46
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 17:47
  Jon: I'm in.
• 17:47
  I'm into it.
• 17:48
  Kearns: us?
• 17:49
  Jon: Oh, of course.
• 17:50
  Kearns: for us,
• 17:50
  Jon: Of course.
• 17:51
  I have a game.
• 17:51
  Of course, there's a game, so.
• 17:54
  I'm not sure.
• 17:55
  I feel like this game might be easy.
• 17:58
  It might not be.
• 18:00
  I did it with Allison.
• 18:02
  It was very easy for her.
• 18:04
  Ryan: From what?
• 18:05
  Kearns: we are.
• 18:05
  Ryan: From what you told me, you said it was gonna be
• 18:08
  destructing, destruction, overload.
• 18:11
  Jon: it's either,
• 18:12
  Ryan: to
• 18:12
  Jon: you're either gonna have no issue with this with your stash
• 18:17
  or slash three slash five or you're gonna struggle like it.
• 18:23
  I'm very curious because Allison, and maybe it's the way
• 18:26
  I ordered it, I don't think so.
• 18:28
  Allison had no problem keeping the three movies that she liked.
• 18:33
  Ryan: Okay.
• 18:34
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 18:35
  Is it random again, the order.
• 18:37
  Jon: it is random ordered again, and it's, and it's themed and I'm
• 18:42
  gonna up the stakes with the theme.
• 18:44
  If within the first three movies you can guess the theme, I will
• 18:48
  let you stash an extra movie.
• 18:51
  Kearns: No
• 18:52
  Ryan: okay.
• 18:53
  Jon: Yeah,
• 18:53
  Kearns: This is definitely the most eighties cover I've seen in a while.
• 18:57
  Jon: I love this cover.
• 18:59
  It's so, it's so American Gothic Zombie.
• 19:03
  Kearns: It's pretty cool.
• 19:06
  Pretty
• 19:06
  Ryan: Hmm.
• 19:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:08
  Kearns: The Mohawk too and everything.
• 19:10
  Um, all right, so we got, we got a theme to consider here.
• 19:14
  They're back
• 19:15
  Ryan: Eliminate unlimited guesses or are we eliminate.
• 19:19
  Jon: One guest per movie through the first three.
• 19:22
  Ryan: Okay.
• 19:25
  Hmm.
• 19:26
  Jon: movie number one is obviously Return of the Living Dead.
• 19:30
  Kearns: Dun dun.
• 19:34
  Ryan: Hmm.
• 19:35
  Kearns: What could it be?
• 19:36
  Movies from 1985.
• 19:40
  Jon: Oh, Kerns gets an extra one.
• 19:42
  Ryan: I was gonna say.
• 19:43
  Nice.
• 19:45
  Jon: They are all 1985.
• 19:47
  So Kerns, you get to keep, you get to stash.
• 19:49
  Four of these.
• 19:50
  Sorry, Ryan.
• 19:51
  Kearns: Fuck it.
• 19:52
  Ryan.
• 19:55
  Ryan: All right.
• 19:56
  Alright.
• 19:57
  Right.
• 19:58
  Kearns: to, can I choose to give up my extra one so that
• 20:01
  he has to slash an extra one?
• 20:03
  Ryan: so messed up.
• 20:05
  No, keep it, keep it
• 20:08
  Jon: you know what?
• 20:10
  I will allow it.
• 20:13
  Kearns: no, I can't do
• 20:14
  Ryan: okay.
• 20:15
  Oh, no, no, no.
• 20:16
  Let's do it.
• 20:17
  'cause I am slashing return of the living debt, then let's do it.
• 20:21
  Jon: man.
• 20:22
  Kearns: I like return to living dead, but I might have to slash it too.
• 20:24
  Even if I get
• 20:25
  Ryan: I do.
• 20:26
  Kearns: I might have to slash it.
• 20:27
  Ryan: Uh, and you got an extra one.
• 20:29
  You, there's, there's, there's no excuse for you not to like stash it.
• 20:33
  Kearns: I will stash it.
• 20:34
  I'm not gonna screw you over and I'm going to stash this.
• 20:38
  Those are two things that are happening.
• 20:40
  Jon: That means I don't have to drive to your house and punch you in the mouth.
• 20:43
  Kearns: Good.
• 20:44
  I do love this movie.
• 20:47
  Jon: Number two.
• 20:47
  Kearns: a while.
• 20:49
  Ryan: Stash.
• 20:50
  Kearns: course we got Romero.
• 20:51
  Yeah.
• 20:51
  I have to stash this too.
• 20:53
  Ryan: this can,
• 20:53
  Kearns: Day
• 20:54
  Ryan: here, here's a good question.
• 20:55
  Kerns, do you prefer Dawn or Day more?
• 20:59
  Kearns: Day.
• 21:00
  Jon: Oh, you guys?
• 21:01
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 21:02
  Jon: No.
• 21:02
  Nope.
• 21:03
  Dawn.
• 21:04
  Dawn is the far superior zombie movie.
• 21:07
  Kearns: I just said that to piss John off.
• 21:09
  Ryan: what would you,
• 21:10
  Jon: Far, far superior.
• 21:12
  Ryan: It
• 21:12
  Jon: love day.
• 21:13
  I love Day of the Ed.
• 21:15
  Dawn is way back.
• 21:16
  Kearns: is super fun because you have that whole like fantasy
• 21:19
  built into it for me anyway.
• 21:20
  I've always fantasized about being stuck in the mall when I
• 21:23
  Jon: Exactly.
• 21:25
  Exactly.
• 21:25
  That's where it came from.
• 21:27
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Ryan: Fair.
• 21:28
  Jon: That's where it came from.
• 21:29
  That's the point I made this afternoon, Ryan.
• 21:32
  Ryan: How
• 21:33
  Jon: You didn't, you didn't fanny
• 21:35
  Ryan: How easy.
• 21:36
  Jon: it.
• 21:36
  It wasn't until other people came along.
• 21:39
  Ryan: The bikers and all that.
• 21:41
  Kearns: in real life, everything got screwed up by the idiots.
• 21:44
  Jon: And it would've been okay if they had just stayed up in their little
• 21:48
  safe space and let the bikers trash them all and then recaptured it.
• 21:55
  Ryan: True.
• 21:56
  Jon: It was a,
• 21:57
  Ryan: they had to
• 21:57
  Jon: a fatal mistake, but they were safe.
• 22:01
  They, they were perfectly safe if they had stayed in that office.
• 22:05
  Ryan: They're safe in a bunker too underground.
• 22:08
  Kearns: And
• 22:08
  Jon: Where they though were they though?
• 22:10
  Ryan: I'll till that got messed up.
• 22:12
  But that, that happens
• 22:14
  Jon: But
• 22:14
  Ryan: the film.
• 22:15
  Jon: No, but, but,
• 22:16
  Kearns: come out?
• 22:17
  Jon: uh, 78.
• 22:19
  Kearns: Okay.
• 22:20
  Okay.
• 22:21
  Ryan: Same year
• 22:22
  Jon: I,
• 22:22
  Ryan: Crazy.
• 22:23
  Jon: the bunker, the underground bunker was never safe.
• 22:26
  'cause they were keeping zombies down there.
• 22:29
  Ryan: Uh, for experiments they were in control, kind, kind.
• 22:33
  Jon: Were they?
• 22:35
  Ryan: They created,
• 22:35
  Jon: 'cause they, they sure lost control of that in a hurry.
• 22:39
  Ryan: Alright.
• 22:40
  Kearns: long time before I saw this movie in the non TV edit
• 22:43
  version, by the way, a long time.
• 22:47
  Jon: We're about to get.
• 22:48
  Kearns: uncut ones on a MC at
• 22:50
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 22:50
  Kearns: night,
• 22:51
  Ryan: Yep.
• 22:51
  Jon: We're about to get really far off the topic here if we keep talking about this,
• 22:56
  Kearns: Yeah, good point.
• 22:57
  Jon: because I will,
• 22:58
  Ryan: Romero.
• 22:58
  Jon: I'll,
• 22:59
  Kearns: listen.
• 23:00
  Jon: I
• 23:00
  Kearns: aren't listening to us, um, because they hate horror.
• 23:04
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 23:04
  Kearns: talk about this as much as you want.
• 23:08
  Jon: This this'll be a four hour episode if I get going right now.
• 23:11
  Kearns: Well, it's my fault 'cause I literally said it to get you going.
• 23:14
  So
• 23:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 23:16
  Kearns: knowing
• 23:16
  Jon: I mean,
• 23:17
  Ryan: I am okay with it.
• 23:18
  Jon: and, I will give you another reason why it's better to be
• 23:21
  in the mall than underground.
• 23:22
  How many escaped passages were there underground?
• 23:27
  Ryan: Um,
• 23:27
  Kearns: Wait,
• 23:28
  Ryan: if I, no, they had
• 23:29
  Jon: 1 1 1.
• 23:32
  Slow ass elevator.
• 23:34
  Ryan: They had the elevator, but they also had the, um, the pathway with multiple
• 23:39
  Jon: the stairs, they, they had stairs like that,
• 23:43
  Ryan: that works.
• 23:44
  Jon: that one, those one at a time rung ladder into the cement.
• 23:48
  Things like you're not, you are not safe under there with nobody up top watching
• 23:55
  the fence, like everybody's down below.
• 23:58
  So even every time you go up, you have no sense of whether you're walking into
• 24:02
  a zombie hoard, whether they knock down the fence and they're inside waiting
• 24:07
  for you to just pop your head up.
• 24:10
  No, you're much safer in the mall.
• 24:12
  Ryan: I mean,
• 24:13
  Kearns: Dog in it.
• 24:14
  Jon: Yep.
• 24:15
  Ryan: but they were able to safely get to the helicopter, know, the fence
• 24:19
  was, you know, reinforced as best as
• 24:22
  Jon: I mean,
• 24:24
  Ryan: Again, there was a mess up, and that's what
• 24:26
  Jon: a few of them, a few of them were able to, but the mess
• 24:30
  up was always gonna happen.
• 24:31
  'cause you're keeping zombies down below.
• 24:33
  Ryan: True.
• 24:34
  I mean, they were, the, the whole idea though is like, how are
• 24:36
  we going to help them adapt or getting on, getting onto our level?
• 24:41
  Because by that time after Dawn day is like the whole zombie apocalypses happened
• 24:47
  Jon: But that's not e, that's not even what Dr. Frankenstein was
• 24:51
  supposed to be doing down there.
• 24:53
  Ryan: Oh
• 24:53
  Jon: He was supposed to be trying to figure out a way to stop
• 24:56
  them, not a way to adapt them.
• 24:58
  Ryan: Correct.
• 24:58
  But that's what makes it so unique and what makes Romero unique is like if
• 25:04
  you look into the deeper psychology is like, how do we work along
• 25:08
  with them instead of against them?
• 25:11
  Jon: Well, well that, I mean that, that's a theme from night
• 25:14
  Ryan: Yep.
• 25:15
  Jon: really through land because then diary is sort of concurrent
• 25:20
  to night and you know, survival is sort of a whole different thing.
• 25:25
  But those four, from Night to Land, you get the evolution that then continues
• 25:31
  into the book that came out after he died, that was finished by Daniel Kraus.
• 25:36
  You get the evolution of the zombie.
• 25:40
  Ryan: I am gonna have to read the book.
• 25:43
  Jon: The book is, I love the book.
• 25:44
  I know there are people who don't.
• 25:46
  I loved it just, I mean, because
• 25:48
  Ryan: You're a Romero fan though.
• 25:50
  Jon: yeah, I, you, you, you mainly just have to stamp his name on something
• 25:55
  and I'm gonna wanna see it or read it.
• 25:59
  Kearns: You're, I would dare to say you're a Romero Super fan.
• 26:03
  Jon: Yeah, probably,
• 26:04
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 26:05
  Jon: yeah, probably if I, had kids, at least one of them would be named George.
• 26:08
  Ryan: the other
• 26:09
  Jon: At least one.
• 26:10
  At least one.
• 26:11
  Yeah.
• 26:11
  There might be a Romero.
• 26:13
  There might.
• 26:13
  Yeah.
• 26:16
  Yeah, it's very likely.
• 26:18
  Kearns: We
• 26:18
  Jon: All right.
• 26:19
  Kearns: John seed
• 26:21
  Jon: Please don't, nobody needs that.
• 26:25
  Kearns: for, we need to see these children named after George A. Romero.
• 26:29
  Who's the, which kid's gonna be named a.
• 26:34
  Ryan: That's the third one.
• 26:36
  Jon: The middle one, obviously.
• 26:38
  Ryan: Fair.
• 26:38
  George.
• 26:39
  A Romero?
• 26:41
  Kearns: Alright,
• 26:41
  Jon: this is my son, George.
• 26:42
  This is my son, a. And this is my son Romero.
• 26:47
  Kearns: now I
• 26:48
  Jon: All right.
• 26:48
  Kearns: two of these.
• 26:49
  John Ryan has stashed two as well,
• 26:52
  Jon: No, Ryan.
• 26:52
  Ryan's one and one because Ryan's slashed return
• 26:56
  Ryan: Yes.
• 26:59
  Kearns: Oh, Freddy's revenge.
• 27:02
  Look at that.
• 27:02
  Awful, awful cover.
• 27:04
  Ryan: That,
• 27:04
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Kearns: Warner Brothers, you
• 27:08
  Ryan: mean.
• 27:08
  Kearns: big shits.
• 27:10
  Ryan: They got like the biggest part of the movie, which is cool.
• 27:13
  The bus, which really opens it, other than like, mean the, the movies,
• 27:20
  it's an okay movie, but there's so much controversy behind it because
• 27:25
  of like the subtle hints that they were putting throughout it, which was
• 27:30
  questionable at the time and stuff.
• 27:32
  Jon: Yeah, it's, it's the L-B-G-T-Q nightmare and that that made a certain
• 27:39
  group of people angry and it continues to make that same certain group angry.
• 27:44
  Kearns: that is a thing.
• 27:46
  but for reasons other than that, I'm slashing it
• 27:50
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:50
  I mean, I, and for reasons other than, than that theme, it's definitely not
• 27:55
  high on my list of nightmare movies.
• 27:58
  Ryan: No, and they had something special, like the whole idea of him
• 28:02
  coming into the real world and mixing
• 28:04
  Jon: Yeah.
• 28:05
  Ryan: into it and like kinda possessing the main character,
• 28:09
  but was just initiated wrong.
• 28:11
  I feel like they pushed a lot where they didn't have to push
• 28:15
  Kearns: It
• 28:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:16
  Kearns: It was just, I didn't enjoy it.
• 28:17
  That's the, that's all that I got for
• 28:19
  Jon: Yeah.
• 28:19
  Yeah.
• 28:20
  Kearns: I
• 28:20
  Ryan: I,
• 28:20
  Kearns: any like, really intelligent way to articulate it.
• 28:23
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 28:23
  Ryan: it.
• 28:24
  I have it for the collection.
• 28:25
  Jon: I mean, I have the whole collection.
• 28:27
  I own it, but,
• 28:29
  Ryan: I'll watch it
• 28:29
  Kearns: got
• 28:30
  Ryan: once in a blue moon.
• 28:32
  Jon: so Ryan, you're slashing this also.
• 28:35
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 28:36
  I just, I, I love Freddy, but you know, I'll take it over.
• 28:42
  Freddy's uh, debt though, I'll say that.
• 28:46
  Kearns: kind of trees.
• 28:47
  Are those, this cover really bothers me.
• 28:49
  What kind of
• 28:50
  Jon: Right.
• 28:50
  Kearns: are those?
• 28:51
  Those are like trees you see in the African Savannah.
• 28:54
  Jon: Yeah.
• 28:56
  Kearns: Why?
• 28:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 28:58
  Yeah.
• 28:59
  It's not the greatest cover for this,
• 29:02
  Kearns: No,
• 29:02
  Jon: one I could find that was a good size.
• 29:04
  Ryan: He
• 29:05
  Jon: next.
• 29:05
  Kearns: I'm not criticizing you for choosing
• 29:07
  Ryan: no,
• 29:07
  Kearns: criticizing them for creating it.
• 29:09
  Ryan: he looks like
• 29:10
  Jon: Yeah, no, this is,
• 29:11
  Ryan: Like, do you
• 29:12
  Jon: he
• 29:12
  Ryan: ear?
• 29:12
  His ear is pointed.
• 29:14
  He looks like a demon elf
• 29:15
  Kearns: It looks
• 29:16
  Jon: sort,
• 29:16
  Kearns: was stamped on.
• 29:18
  Jon: sort of looks like what Freddy Krueger would, could have looked like if
• 29:23
  they didn't do a good job with the makeup.
• 29:25
  Kearns: Yep.
• 29:26
  Fair.
• 29:26
  Ryan: And look at his hand.
• 29:28
  His hand has
• 29:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:29
  Ryan: the knives coming from his fingertips.
• 29:33
  All right, we
• 29:33
  Jon: I mean,
• 29:34
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 29:35
  Jon: not Wolverine.
• 29:36
  Ryan: No, no, he's not.
• 29:37
  No.
• 29:38
  Kearns: the most glaring thing on there.
• 29:39
  You're right.
• 29:40
  Ryan: Like
• 29:41
  Jon: right.
• 29:42
  Ryan: Freddie.
• 29:42
  Jon: number four.
• 29:44
  Ryan: Oh.
• 29:46
  Kearns: I love Goey so much.
• 29:48
  That was 85.
• 29:50
  Jon: Yep.
• 29:52
  Kearns: How scared were you to sit on a toilet when you were little John?
• 29:55
  Ryan: Very,
• 29:55
  Kearns: you were too old
• 29:56
  Ryan: very,
• 29:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:58
  Kearns: You weren't like scared, but
• 29:59
  Jon: Yeah.
• 29:59
  I wasn't,
• 30:00
  Kearns: saw this at Blockbuster
• 30:01
  Ryan: very, I didn't want
• 30:02
  Jon: I was scared.
• 30:04
  I, I was scared of the toilet after Jaws, but, you know.
• 30:08
  Ryan: I'm sorry.
• 30:08
  That's not funny.
• 30:09
  Kearns: No, that's
• 30:10
  Ryan: No, that's horrible.
• 30:13
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:14
  Kearns: 'cause of Orca.
• 30:15
  They killed his wife.
• 30:16
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:18
  Kearns: Oh man, I How do you slash gies?
• 30:22
  Ryan: Just by flushing it down the toilet.
• 30:24
  That's what I'm doing.
• 30:26
  Kearns: Oh, it's so much fun
• 30:28
  Ryan: I know.
• 30:29
  Kearns: such a blast.
• 30:30
  Ryan: Yeah, but he's evil.
• 30:32
  Kearns: He's wearing suspenders.
• 30:34
  He is evil,
• 30:35
  Ryan: Oh no.
• 30:35
  I'm talking
• 30:36
  Jon: Me, me or the gey.
• 30:37
  Kearns: 85,
• 30:38
  Ryan: both the
• 30:39
  Jon: listen, li a again, again, random order.
• 30:43
  I have nothing to do with the order.
• 30:44
  I just picked the movies.
• 30:46
  Ryan: why I'm saying like, I dunno, what's
• 30:48
  Kearns: screw.
• 30:49
  Jon: Nice.
• 30:49
  Kearns: it.
• 30:50
  Jon: All right.
• 30:50
  Ryan: you got four.
• 30:52
  Jon: Ryan, you have two sts left and Kerns has one even with the extras
• 31:00
  Ryan: Oh,
• 31:01
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 31:01
  I've been very liberal
• 31:03
  Ryan: okay.
• 31:04
  Kearns: with my STEs.
• 31:07
  Ooh,
• 31:08
  Ryan: This came up in conversation today too.
• 31:10
  It's an underrated.
• 31:11
  Jon: sure did.
• 31:13
  Ryan: it's underrated film.
• 31:14
  It's a fun,
• 31:15
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:15
  Ryan: film.
• 31:16
  Jon: I love this one.
• 31:20
  Kearns: Look
• 31:20
  Jon: Yep.
• 31:21
  Kearns: man, that that house is literally in the town I live in.
• 31:25
  That house is up on a hill as you're heading towards, Hmm.
• 31:29
  Home Depot this area.
• 31:31
  You guys should understand that.
• 31:33
  Jon: I got you.
• 31:34
  Ryan: Yep.
• 31:34
  Kearns: Hey, is that Norm?
• 31:36
  Ryan: That's norm.
• 31:37
  Jon: Norm Norm's in this and bull from night court.
• 31:40
  Bull from night court plays the The corpse guy.
• 31:43
  Ryan: Wait, are you, um,
• 31:45
  Kearns: Oh, I can see it actually in his
• 31:47
  Jon: Yeah.
• 31:47
  Richard Ma.
• 31:48
  Ryan: Richard two phase?
• 31:50
  Yep.
• 31:52
  Jon: Bull from Night Court.
• 31:54
  Ryan: Oh,
• 31:54
  Jon: Two Face
• 31:55
  Ryan: two
• 31:56
  Jon: Bull
• 31:56
  Ryan: Batman.
• 31:57
  The animated series
• 31:58
  Kearns: from Night Court.
• 31:59
  Harry,
• 32:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:01
  Kearns: I love Night Court,
• 32:03
  Jon: I Lovett.
• 32:04
  Ryan: that, that came up today, this week too.
• 32:06
  Actually.
• 32:06
  I, this came,
• 32:07
  Kearns: did.
• 32:08
  Ryan: yeah, our, it came up this week with, uh, my wife.
• 32:10
  We were talking about night court now.
• 32:13
  We love
• 32:13
  Jon: It's such a good show.
• 32:15
  Ryan: Now they're underrated.
• 32:16
  Gem.
• 32:16
  That was the time where they, what was it?
• 32:18
  Night court wings and chairs all in one shot.
• 32:22
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:23
  See,
• 32:24
  Kearns: and just
• 32:25
  Ryan: Yep.
• 32:26
  Jon: that's the thing.
• 32:26
  I like having, being old enough to watch night court when it was originally
• 32:31
  on, it was properly rated, it's just people forgot how good it was.
• 32:37
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 32:37
  Ryan: it's true.
• 32:38
  Kearns: You forgot too, like there was.
• 32:41
  Uh, not, I wouldn't say soap opera sort of vibe to it, but there was
• 32:44
  a building of relationships and
• 32:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 32:49
  Kearns: show.
• 32:50
  Jon: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Like you had the, the story of the week.
• 32:53
  You didn't have to watch every week to keep up with a plot, but every
• 32:57
  week there were little developments in the relationships of the characters.
• 33:01
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 33:04
  What's the name of the lawyer?
• 33:05
  Um, the actor who placed the lawyer.
• 33:08
  He's
• 33:08
  Jon: John Roquette
• 33:09
  Kearns: Yeah, that's the one.
• 33:11
  Jon: is John, John qut and Marky Post.
• 33:15
  Kearns: Marky Post.
• 33:16
  Better than Marky Mark.
• 33:17
  I say
• 33:18
  Jon: I loved Marky Post.
• 33:20
  Kearns: way.
• 33:20
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 33:21
  I'm
• 33:21
  Jon: kind of figured you kind of have to.
• 33:22
  Kearns: I have to.
• 33:23
  I have to, bro.
• 33:24
  I'm down to one left.
• 33:25
  Ryan: Norm.
• 33:27
  No more
• 33:27
  Jon: Sorry, norm.
• 33:28
  I'm sorry.
• 33:29
  Bull.
• 33:30
  Kearns: where we'll find him.
• 33:32
  Ryan: everybody knows your name.
• 33:34
  Kearns: knows your name.
• 33:35
  Jon: All right.
• 33:36
  Ryan: do and wait, what
• 33:40
  Jon: Ladies and gentlemen, silver bullet.
• 33:43
  Kearns: Bullet two
• 33:44
  Ryan: It's
• 33:45
  Kearns: How many more do
• 33:45
  Ryan: hold.
• 33:46
  Kearns: after
• 33:46
  Ryan: Wait a minute.
• 33:46
  Is that
• 33:47
  Jon: This is, there are three left.
• 33:49
  Kearns: Oh, I can't after this.
• 33:51
  There's three left.
• 33:52
  Jon: This is no the, including this.
• 33:54
  There's three
• 33:55
  Ryan: that's why you've,
• 33:56
  Kearns: have,
• 33:56
  Ryan: you mentioned half these movies today, brother.
• 33:59
  I'm just saying
• 33:59
  Jon: I
• 34:00
  Ryan: you
• 34:00
  Jon: I did, I did, but it was coincidence.
• 34:03
  It was the person we were, talking to.
• 34:05
  Driving that more than me.
• 34:07
  Ryan: I thought you were landing Easter eggs and I'm like, damn it.
• 34:10
  He gave me
• 34:11
  Jon: No.
• 34:11
  Kearns: Savage in this,
• 34:13
  Ryan: Oh no.
• 34:14
  Uh, Corey Ham.
• 34:16
  Kearns: Corey Ham is the kid.
• 34:17
  And then the Gary Busey.
• 34:18
  Obviously
• 34:19
  Ryan: I thought Gary Busey was in the wheelchair asking for buttered
• 34:21
  sausage, but that wasn't true.
• 34:25
  Kearns: he's now.
• 34:26
  Jon: that would've been weird if Gary Busey was playing a kid in 1985.
• 34:30
  Ryan: I.
• 34:30
  Kearns: How's Gary Busey still alive.
• 34:32
  Can we talk about
• 34:32
  Ryan: He
• 34:33
  Jon: an interesting question.
• 34:35
  Ryan: saw and
• 34:36
  Kearns: lot of cocaine.
• 34:37
  Ryan: had an Instagram video recently and it just looks, he looks like
• 34:41
  Skeletor and I'm not trying to be funny, but he looks like Skeletor.
• 34:46
  Kearns: the
• 34:46
  Ryan: It's bad.
• 34:47
  Kearns: face with his big gangly teeth and stuff.
• 34:49
  It accentuates it as he's getting more gaunt
• 34:51
  Ryan: I'm,
• 34:51
  Kearns: it, he just, he's ghastly.
• 34:53
  Ryan: it's the reconstruction surgery he had after that motorcycle accident
• 34:56
  that's like really protruding his face out, all that surgery.
• 35:02
  Kearns: Hope he's comfortable as he searches for butter sausage.
• 35:08
  Ryan: Oh man.
• 35:09
  Kearns: I gotta slash it because I just don't know what you got down, coming
• 35:12
  down the pipe and if there's something amazing next I'm gonna be upset.
• 35:16
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 35:17
  But there might not be, you know what I'm gonna,
• 35:19
  Kearns: liked
• 35:20
  Ryan: I'm gonna stash it, stashing it.
• 35:23
  am, I'm gonna stash.
• 35:24
  Super bullet.
• 35:25
  'cause it gives me, like,
• 35:26
  Kearns: me
• 35:26
  Ryan: it gives me a two for two.
• 35:28
  I don't want like go in blind, not tonight.
• 35:31
  Jon: All right.
• 35:32
  So you each have one of each left with two movies to go.
• 35:38
  Let's see,
• 35:40
  Ryan: Oh God, yes.
• 35:41
  I'm, oh, wait a minute.
• 35:42
  Hold on.
• 35:43
  But then what else is there?
• 35:45
  What else came out in 1985?
• 35:46
  Kearns: we gotta think of what else came out in 1985.
• 35:48
  That's a horror movie.
• 35:50
  Oh,
• 35:51
  Jon: 1985 was a good year.
• 35:52
  I just picked eight random ones.
• 35:54
  There were, there was a lot of cool stuff in 85.
• 35:58
  Ryan: Dandridge.
• 35:59
  I'll take it.
• 36:00
  Freight night.
• 36:00
  You know what, going back,
• 36:01
  Kearns: And this is random order too,
• 36:04
  Jon: Yep.
• 36:04
  Kearns: like leaving us with some evil thing.
• 36:07
  Jon: I mean.
• 36:07
  Kearns: take fright Night.
• 36:09
  Jon: I still might be, in fact now, now that I remember what's last.
• 36:14
  I think you're both about to be severely disappointed in your choices.
• 36:18
  Ryan: Why, what's.
• 36:19
  Jon: I would,
• 36:20
  Kearns: of them,
• 36:21
  Jon: I I,
• 36:22
  Kearns: probably just
• 36:23
  Jon: I, would even say you will regret your choices and that you
• 36:27
  have made bad choices because movie number eight is re animator.
• 36:33
  Ryan: Oh,
• 36:37
  Kearns: I do love, love craft, dude.
• 36:39
  Ryan: re animator's so good too.
• 36:41
  But you know what, uh, you know what?
• 36:43
  I would trade Silver Bullet for re animator, but I'll, I'll
• 36:46
  accept my, I'll accept my choices.
• 36:49
  Kearns: I would do Friday night for,
• 36:50
  Ryan: Nah, I
• 36:51
  Kearns: do Friday night for Ator.
• 36:53
  Ryan: keep Friday
• 36:53
  Jon: You wouldn't, you wouldn't go, you wouldn't go gies for re animator.
• 36:57
  Kearns: No, no.
• 36:59
  I love the Ghoulies.
• 37:00
  Ghoulies is my extra, that's my bonus movie.
• 37:03
  So that's untouchable.
• 37:04
  Ryan: That's my sinning, my sinful movie.
• 37:06
  Jon: That's fair.
• 37:07
  Ri I, I think, Ryan, you're lucky I didn't institute the rule.
• 37:10
  I'm thinking about with Stash or slash
• 37:13
  Ryan: Good.
• 37:13
  Jon: that you can no long, you can no longer use the movie
• 37:17
  you slash in your top five.
• 37:19
  Ryan: mean, I would be fine with it.
• 37:21
  Kearns: of
• 37:21
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 37:21
  I told him I'd be fine with it.
• 37:23
  I mean
• 37:24
  Jon: That would be rough.
• 37:24
  That would
• 37:26
  Ryan: doesn't relate.
• 37:27
  This doesn't relate to my top five tonight, which I'm
• 37:29
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 37:31
  Kearns: It works
• 37:31
  Ryan: for
• 37:32
  Jon: but I'll get it eventually.
• 37:34
  Kearns: good game.
• 37:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 37:36
  Kearns: game, gentlemen.
• 37:37
  Jon: stru, I struggled finding a game for this week because, I
• 37:41
  mean, like, there's a lot of stuff, but literally and figuratively
• 37:45
  about the, the movie, the stuff,
• 37:47
  Kearns: Nice tie in right there.
• 37:49
  Jon: but it's, there's not a lot of, of ways to link it.
• 37:54
  Kearns: Were you just living, if you were in 85 and you were 17 to 25
• 37:58
  years old or something, were you just living at the theater there in 1985?
• 38:02
  Jon: have to have been right.
• 38:03
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 38:04
  Jon: You have to have been.
• 38:05
  Kearns: movies come out and not just like, you know, um, stack on top of each other
• 38:11
  Jon: Yeah,
• 38:12
  Kearns: ruin
• 38:12
  Jon: I, I, I'm sure they did.
• 38:14
  I'm, I'm sure like one of those people who like posts pictures of, you know, like,
• 38:21
  like movie billboards from old times.
• 38:25
  I'm sure there's ones that are just insane from 85.
• 38:29
  'cause I left out stuff.
• 38:31
  There was Friday the 13th, five Howling two, life Force warning size.
• 38:36
  So many good movies came out in 85.
• 38:40
  Teen Wolf
• 38:42
  Ryan: team.
• 38:42
  Kearns: Wolf is probably
• 38:43
  Ryan: Okay.
• 38:43
  Kearns: box office.
• 38:44
  Out of
• 38:44
  Jon: probably,
• 38:45
  Kearns: so far,
• 38:47
  Jon: Friday the 13th probably was PR up there too.
• 38:50
  The, the Friday the 13th movies raked in dough.
• 38:53
  Ryan: they did.
• 38:54
  Even
• 38:54
  Kearns: adjacent,
• 38:55
  Ryan: if, well, there was no Jason spoiler, not for par
• 38:59
  Jon: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Five
• 39:00
  Kearns: three?
• 39:01
  Jon: The Nonja one.
• 39:02
  Yeah.
• 39:02
  Ryan: it
• 39:03
  Jon: Well,
• 39:04
  Ryan: but not Jason.
• 39:06
  Jon: there's a Jason, but it's not Jason.
• 39:08
  It's
• 39:08
  Ryan: mask, not a red mask.
• 39:10
  Jon: is a mess.
• 39:11
  Ryan: like
• 39:12
  Jon: Five is a mess.
• 39:12
  Ryan: I do
• 39:13
  Jon: It's all right.
• 39:14
  But five is five is way down my list of Friday movies.
• 39:19
  Ryan: But um, you were mentioning how you can release so many good
• 39:24
  horror movies or the I idea of so many horror movies is like, it wasn't
• 39:29
  expensive at that time and every
• 39:32
  Jon: No.
• 39:32
  Ryan: was competing with one another, so they
• 39:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:36
  Ryan: every year or even throughout the year, horror movie
• 39:38
  after horror movie just to p
• 39:39
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:40
  Ryan: out.
• 39:40
  And that's what makes it prime.
• 39:42
  I feel like the entire eighties with horror or starting with the seventies
• 39:46
  and building up to the eighties,
• 39:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 39:49
  Ryan: it's like nonstop, but also look at the ticket prices at the time.
• 39:53
  Jon: Yeah.
• 39:54
  Yeah.
• 39:55
  And like none of the movies that I put in that game were particularly big budget.
• 40:01
  Ryan: A silver bullet?
• 40:02
  Jon: They were all pretty, silver Bullet wasn't that big a budget, like, I mean,
• 40:06
  think about it, like a lot of that is not,
• 40:08
  Kearns: small town.
• 40:09
  Jon: yeah.
• 40:10
  Ryan: Gary Busey.
• 40:11
  Kearns: of setting.
• 40:11
  Ryan: Cory
• 40:12
  Jon: Day of the Dead was Romero's most expensive zombie movie to that point.
• 40:17
  But I mean, he made Night on Nothing and he made Day on, on
• 40:22
  Dawn on just a little bit more.
• 40:23
  Dawn's budget was only 600,000.
• 40:26
  Ryan: And then how much,
• 40:27
  Kearns: even rent the mall?
• 40:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:29
  Kearns: 600,000
• 40:31
  Jon: Yeah.
• 40:32
  I mean, a lot of after hour stuff there.
• 40:37
  Kearns: I suppose.
• 40:38
  Yeah.
• 40:39
  Ryan: which makes me wonder how he did the daytime scenes, I mean, without lighting,
• 40:43
  because of that time without CGI,
• 40:46
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:47
  Ryan: he had a, they had to close it off for him for at least a couple
• 40:50
  Jon: Early mornings.
• 40:51
  Yeah, early mornings.
• 40:54
  Kearns: we could look into that.
• 40:55
  People would want to hear about that from when we
• 40:57
  Jon: Well,
• 40:57
  Kearns: these movies.
• 40:58
  'cause we haven't done a
• 40:58
  Jon: well,
• 40:59
  Kearns: shockingly enough.
• 41:01
  Ryan: Not
• 41:01
  Jon: Dawn is coming up in May, so,
• 41:03
  Kearns: There you go, John.
• 41:04
  It's
• 41:04
  Ryan: The
• 41:05
  Jon: and then
• 41:06
  Ryan: Original, not
• 41:07
  Jon: Dawn is coming up in May.
• 41:09
  Yep.
• 41:09
  Kearns: the original, we could do the re we can do the, um, I don't
• 41:12
  even know if I'd call it a remake.
• 41:13
  What would we call the new one?
• 41:14
  New Dawn,
• 41:15
  Ryan: dog.
• 41:17
  Not the Twilight movie.
• 41:18
  Kearns: of the Dead.
• 41:19
  Later on in life.
• 41:20
  We can do that and
• 41:21
  Jon: yeah.
• 41:22
  Kearns: Talk about how much we hate McKay Pfeiffer in that movie
• 41:25
  Ryan: Real quick Day.
• 41:26
  The dead
• 41:27
  Kearns: Yes.
• 41:28
  Ryan: with 3.5 to $4 million budget.
• 41:31
  Jon: Yep.
• 41:32
  Ryan: insane.
• 41:34
  Jon: Yeah, like that's.
• 41:35
  Ryan: nothing
• 41:36
  Kearns: 1985, so what's that worth today if you wanna cry
• 41:40
  Jon: That, that's the point I was making with you when we were a couple
• 41:45
  weeks ago, when we were arguing Craven or Romero and how you could make all
• 41:50
  six Romero zombie movies for less than it cost to make scream four
• 41:55
  Ryan: True, but I would
• 41:57
  Jon: and then make
• 41:57
  Ryan: Craven over Peter Jackson.
• 41:59
  Kearns: isn't it?
• 42:00
  Jon: Yeah, then make three more of them.
• 42:03
  And to get to 40 million, like the average Romero land was the most expensive.
• 42:08
  And they estimate, I think that was between 15 and 19 million.
• 42:12
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 42:12
  Kearns: Wow.
• 42:14
  Jon: And a lot of that goes into star power.
• 42:16
  'cause he has, that's where he has names.
• 42:20
  He's got Leg Zamo, he is got Hopper, he's got, um, that British
• 42:25
  dude who almost became big.
• 42:28
  Ryan: Simon Clark.
• 42:29
  Jon: Whose name I'm blanking on right now.
• 42:31
  Yeah, he's got, um, you know, I'm sure it didn't cost a lot, but there's
• 42:36
  the, um, Simon Peg, Nick Frost cameo
• 42:40
  Kearns: Oh,
• 42:41
  Ryan: probably love doing that.
• 42:43
  I was gonna say 15
• 42:44
  Jon: I'm sure.
• 42:45
  'cause I,
• 42:47
  Ryan: Not
• 42:47
  Jon: yeah.
• 42:48
  Kearns: cameos in the stuff this week's film?
• 42:52
  Jon: there are actually, there are two, uncredited Cameos.
• 42:56
  Three.
• 42:56
  Kearns: hear about those.
• 42:57
  That's
• 42:58
  Jon: So
• 42:58
  Kearns: get
• 42:59
  Jon: the supermarket clerk in the scene that, Jason destroys all
• 43:03
  the stuff is Eric Bagian, who's a pretty big, big name there.
• 43:09
  you get, when you get the factory tour, uh, she just
• 43:13
  happened to be on set with dad.
• 43:14
  You get a cameo from Mira Sorvino.
• 43:17
  Ryan: Nice.
• 43:17
  Kearns: that's Mira Sono
• 43:19
  Jon: Yep.
• 43:20
  Ryan: Okay.
• 43:20
  Kearns: met her,
• 43:21
  Ryan: I.
• 43:21
  Kearns: way.
• 43:22
  And, uh, the capacity as a, of a fan at a con when I was signing books.
• 43:26
  And she is the most lovely, wonderful, nice lady.
• 43:31
  Jon: I love when that happens.
• 43:32
  I love meeting people at those things who are just so nice.
• 43:36
  Kearns: making any money off me, and she was super nice to
• 43:38
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:39
  Kearns: like, cool, you're nice.
• 43:40
  I like you.
• 43:41
  And then John Cusack looked like
• 43:43
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:43
  Kearns: of liver cancer
• 43:44
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:45
  Kearns: my God.
• 43:46
  Oh.
• 43:46
  Jon: I,
• 43:47
  Ryan: He was
• 43:47
  Jon: I had one, like, one like that at Chiller too.
• 43:51
  one of the years I, we went to Chiller, Brian O'Halloran, Dante from Clerks was
• 43:56
  there, and if you go online, they like, back at that point in time, there were
• 44:01
  terrible stories of people who met him and he was just nasty and whatever.
• 44:05
  He couldn't have been a nicer guy.
• 44:07
  He, he talked to us and quoted lines from us, signed stuff for free.
• 44:13
  He was just like the nicest guy in the world.
• 44:15
  Like Yeah.
• 44:17
  And like I had heard, I had seen stuff that was kind of negative about
• 44:21
  him and it just couldn't have been more opposite, but back to the stuff.
• 44:26
  Kearns: I was like, I've seen this stuff, now we could wax and wane on that.
• 44:30
  That'll we'll you guys into, uh, more of John's convention
• 44:35
  stories as we go on in life.
• 44:38
  And my very few that I have.
• 44:40
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:41
  Ryan: You forgot about Patrick Dempsey.
• 44:44
  Jon: Oh yeah, I've, yeah, I did.
• 44:45
  'cause we got distracted on waxing poetic about convention meetings.
• 44:51
  Yeah.
• 44:51
  Patrick Dempsey is the illicit stuff buyer at the end.
• 44:55
  Once the stuff is outlawed as anything that's outlawed, you get a black market.
• 45:00
  Ryan: Yep.
• 45:01
  Kearns: Yeah, he is like, Hey man, you got more stuff.
• 45:05
  He does that Patrick Dempsey,
• 45:08
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:09
  Kearns: very young, Patrick Dempsey
• 45:10
  Ryan: Until he
• 45:11
  Jon: Yep,
• 45:12
  Ryan: Dr.
• 45:13
  Jon: yep.
• 45:13
  Kearns: ER
• 45:14
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:15
  He did his residency after the stuff.
• 45:18
  Kearns: because he had to cure the addiction.
• 45:20
  Ryan: Exactly.
• 45:23
  Kearns: they don't get into
• 45:24
  Jon: Yep.
• 45:24
  Started with a diversion program and he became a, a doctor from there.
• 45:28
  Kearns: Like how does that work?
• 45:29
  Ryan: I would think they died.
• 45:30
  Kearns: in them?
• 45:32
  Jon: I don't know, does it?
• 45:33
  Kearns: well it's true.
• 45:34
  It does all come, it does come out of a lot of them at some points
• 45:38
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:39
  But, when it's out, I kind of think you're gone at that point.
• 45:44
  Kearns: Yeah, I think you're done.
• 45:45
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:45
  Kearns: addicted to
• 45:46
  Jon: I don't think there's coming back, I don't think there's coming back from
• 45:49
  being a stuffy, I think a stuffy is like being a zombie at that point.
• 45:53
  Ryan: mean, how it rips through your mouth.
• 45:55
  It like rips the whole jawline open,
• 45:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:58
  Ryan: you're not
• 45:59
  Jon: that's like
• 45:59
  Kearns: interesting because it could easily squeeze out normally
• 46:02
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 46:03
  No, it's,
• 46:04
  Kearns: way.
• 46:04
  Jon: yeah, it's going for max discomfort
• 46:07
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 46:08
  Jon: its escape and it, yeah.
• 46:10
  It hollows them out.
• 46:12
  Like everybody, they fight after they've, vomited the stuff out of
• 46:16
  them is just like a hollow shell.
• 46:19
  Ryan: They are.
• 46:19
  Which is,
• 46:20
  Kearns: collapse.
• 46:21
  Ryan: which is cool.
• 46:22
  Special effects.
• 46:22
  Each time they did a punch and you'd see the face
• 46:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 46:26
  Kearns: at that point we find out the stuff is d is eat feeding on them then
• 46:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 46:30
  Yep.
• 46:31
  Yep.
• 46:31
  It's feeding on them and turning them into stuffies
• 46:38
  Ryan: Stuffies.
• 46:40
  Jon: stuff.
• 46:40
  They even could, they could, that's not my word.
• 46:42
  They call 'em stuffies in the movie too.
• 46:46
  The stuffies.
• 46:48
  I, but like, I mean that whole, that whole mouth element and the
• 46:54
  way they, they create that is just a wonder of practical effects too.
• 46:58
  Kearns: Kind of neat.
• 47:00
  Jon: Now, if they did this now, they'd definitely try to CGI that
• 47:03
  and it wouldn't look as cool.
• 47:05
  Kearns: Agreed.
• 47:06
  Like that kind of end up with what happened with the ring,
• 47:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 47:10
  Kearns: victims in the ring.
• 47:11
  You see the mirror, but it doesn't look okay.
• 47:16
  It looks bad.
• 47:18
  Jon: Yeah.
• 47:19
  Ryan: We're talking about the og.
• 47:20
  Kearns: Before we Yeah, well, the
• 47:23
  Jon: The.
• 47:25
  Naomi Watt American one, not the Japanese.
• 47:28
  Ryan: the American, not the Japanese, the American, my bad.
• 47:31
  Jon: Yeah.
• 47:32
  Kearns: this is America.
• 47:34
  This is Amer, it's not like we're in Vietnam right now where half of
• 47:37
  our listenership is, by the way.
• 47:39
  Um,
• 47:41
  Jon: But speaking, speaking of Vietnam, we progressed to
• 47:45
  a Vietnam tangent in this too.
• 47:47
  When Mo and company go to find a Colonel Spears to help them
• 47:53
  conquer the factory and his, he's definitely not real army anymore.
• 47:58
  He's full on like, like country militia guy.
• 48:03
  Kearns: the movie.
• 48:03
  Yeah.
• 48:04
  He's like, I will defend America.
• 48:06
  Ryan: He's an interesting
• 48:07
  Jon: he is, he is very, and he's really another character
• 48:12
  that's kind of predictive of where we get to as a society,
• 48:17
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 48:18
  They
• 48:19
  Jon: the, the stuff.
• 48:19
  Kearns: on this.
• 48:20
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:22
  Yeah, the, stuff kind of gets predictive about consumer culture, about people
• 48:28
  like Colonel Spears, about a lot of it, it, like watching the stuff now
• 48:34
  reminds me of how glad I am that I don't often fall in with trends
• 48:39
  Kearns: Yeah, call.
• 48:42
  You don't
• 48:42
  Jon: is
• 48:43
  Kearns: thousand POGS from the nineties and things like that hidden under your
• 48:47
  Ryan: Beanie Babies.
• 48:48
  Kearns: Me neither.
• 48:49
  Jon: No, no, no.
• 48:50
  Beanie Babies.
• 48:52
  No Tamagotchis.
• 48:54
  Kearns: we don't need to buy them.
• 48:55
  Jon: No Elmos, no any of that stuff.
• 49:00
  Kearns: Yep.
• 49:02
  Jon: None of the music that was trending.
• 49:05
  None of the, like, I, you know, I don't like, it's not an active thing that I
• 49:10
  do, but once people start raving about something, I'm less interested and
• 49:14
  that's what would happen with the stuff.
• 49:16
  Ryan: Yep.
• 49:17
  Kearns: Nice.
• 49:18
  Ryan: I can see that.
• 49:20
  Kearns: Um, is there anything else you wanna touch on from the
• 49:22
  movie before we hit the ratings?
• 49:25
  Ryan: Well, I mean, we can touch the ending and how like, kind of like, it's
• 49:30
  like a feel good ending, which is good.
• 49:32
  'cause you need a feel good ending at the end of this.
• 49:34
  I mean, the kids,
• 49:36
  Kearns: An orphan
• 49:36
  Ryan: yeah.
• 49:36
  Jason, there we go.
• 49:38
  Jason.
• 49:38
  Jon: Yeah,
• 49:39
  Ryan: he's.
• 49:39
  Jon: I mean, judging by that family, he may be better off.
• 49:44
  Kearns: Yeah, good point.
• 49:45
  Jon: They seemed like they weren't the best before the stuff.
• 49:50
  Kearns: you know, it's, uh, we didn't talk about yet either.
• 49:52
  Before we jump in, what Ryan was saying, the, the tanker truck, when he's inside of
• 49:57
  Ryan: Oh my
• 49:57
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 49:58
  Kearns: a perspective I never thought I'd have of I, as soon as he got in there, I
• 50:01
  was like, oh, this is gonna be horrible to
• 50:03
  Ryan: Claustrophobia a hundred percent.
• 50:06
  Kearns: with peanut butter.
• 50:06
  Fluff.
• 50:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 50:08
  Kearns: you.
• 50:10
  Nightmare Unlocked.
• 50:11
  Jon: Yep.
• 50:13
  Kearns: Ugh, another great job by this movie to make you skive.
• 50:15
  Ryan: if it wasn't
• 50:16
  Jon: Yeah.
• 50:16
  Ryan: it was fluff, I think I would've been fine.
• 50:19
  I would've just eaten it.
• 50:20
  All that, that's,
• 50:22
  Kearns: out, like, like in beer.
• 50:23
  What is that?
• 50:24
  Beer?
• 50:24
  Um,
• 50:25
  Ryan: oh, beer fest.
• 50:26
  Jon: Beer fest.
• 50:27
  Yeah, yeah,
• 50:29
  Ryan: they killed him.
• 50:29
  Jon: yeah.
• 50:30
  Kearns: stuff.
• 50:31
  Ryan: He, he's
• 50:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 50:35
  Ryan: drink by, by beer.
• 50:37
  I can't say the line 'cause the line's like outrageous, but,
• 50:40
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 50:42
  Jon: So
• 50:42
  Kearns: Before we do the reviews, what were you gonna say?
• 50:47
  Jon: we get the stuff pulled from markets and burned and destroyed and, you know,
• 50:53
  we get, um, Nicole, the ad executive, uh, making a statement on TV and, you
• 51:01
  know, people believed it like that.
• 51:03
  One thing I, I noted at that point in the movie was.
• 51:08
  I'll read exactly what I wrote in my notes today.
• 51:11
  We'd have deniers and the stuff would win.
• 51:14
  Ryan: Yep.
• 51:14
  Kearns: It's true though because they're, back then they didn't
• 51:17
  have the element of people going on social paying bot farms and stuff
• 51:21
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:22
  Kearns: to spread misinformation.
• 51:23
  Yeah.
• 51:24
  Jon: Yep.
• 51:25
  Yep.
• 51:25
  Kearns: Gnarly.
• 51:27
  Jon: Yeah.
• 51:28
  And then I, like the, full end where Mo goes back to the original stuff,
• 51:34
  executive and one of the snack food executives that hired him at the
• 51:38
  beginning and they, they're like, oh look, we we're marketing the taste.
• 51:43
  It's only 12% the stuff, and it's safer it, and he like, he, you know, pulls
• 51:51
  out his weapon dumps boxes of the actual stuff in front of them and forces them
• 51:58
  to eat what they did to the people.
• 52:02
  Kearns: Cool
• 52:02
  Ryan: Yep.
• 52:03
  Jon: yeah.
• 52:04
  I.
• 52:05
  Ryan: they get what they deserve and
• 52:07
  Jon: Exactly.
• 52:08
  Ryan: the cops come, you know, Mo and I guess he adopted them.
• 52:15
  Kearns: I
• 52:16
  Jon: mean, I guess,
• 52:17
  Ryan: just
• 52:17
  Jon: I guess I mean, yeah.
• 52:20
  Yeah.
• 52:21
  He just kind of has, he just, he just kind of has a kid and
• 52:25
  a girlfriend at the end, like,
• 52:27
  Kearns: Yep.
• 52:28
  Jon: and he really establish a whole lot of that.
• 52:30
  But you don't need that.
• 52:31
  Yeah.
• 52:32
  Kearns: questions like that.
• 52:32
  And I actually, for some reason, it really worked.
• 52:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 52:36
  I don't need that question answered.
• 52:38
  Not by the stuff like,
• 52:39
  Kearns: with them now
• 52:40
  Jon: yeah.
• 52:42
  Yeah.
• 52:42
  He's like, chunk you live with me now?
• 52:44
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 52:47
  Yay.
• 52:47
  Ryan: live
• 52:48
  Jon: Sloth.
• 52:48
  Sloth and chunk
• 52:49
  Ryan: what do you mean chunk ass sloth?
• 52:51
  You live with
• 52:52
  Jon: Sloth and chunk.
• 52:53
  You live with me now?
• 52:54
  Yeah.
• 52:54
  Kearns: hear some stuff.
• 52:55
  Reviews,
• 52:57
  Jon: All right.
• 52:57
  So on Rotten Tomatoes, the stuff is a 68% with the critics.
• 53:04
  Ryan: Okay.
• 53:04
  Kearns: huh?
• 53:05
  Jon: 50% audience.
• 53:07
  Ryan: Okay.
• 53:08
  Kearns: actually kind of rough.
• 53:10
  I
• 53:10
  Jon: was a little surprised by that.
• 53:12
  I, I did too.
• 53:13
  Uh, so five stars, I adore this movie.
• 53:18
  Some of the special effects were a bit ropey even for its time.
• 53:22
  But the commercials and the presentation of the zombie dessert were so flashy
• 53:28
  that if you just saw the, where's the stuff advertisement, you would
• 53:31
  assume that it's a real product.
• 53:34
  Ryan: That's
• 53:34
  Jon: Mo Rutherford has a weird character arc, but he's goofy and I
• 53:39
  love him, and I agree with that part.
• 53:41
  Like you meet Mo and he's kind of, kind of a dirt peg.
• 53:45
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 53:45
  Jon: He's kind of, he, he's a corporate spy.
• 53:48
  He's taking money to try to ruin somebody else's company, and within
• 53:52
  like five or 10 minutes of the movie, you're like, nah, I love this dude.
• 53:57
  He's like, this just gangly, goofy.
• 54:01
  Dude.
• 54:02
  Ryan: The anti James Bond.
• 54:05
  Jon: Yeah, I like that.
• 54:07
  The anti James Bond.
• 54:08
  Yeah.
• 54:09
  Um, but you know, not everybody's gonna love the stuff.
• 54:13
  Some people could get enough.
• 54:14
  In fact, one star,
• 54:18
  probably the worst horror movie I ever sat through.
• 54:22
  I liked the idea though, and it had a couple good moments.
• 54:28
  Ryan: That was it.
• 54:29
  Kearns: That's it.
• 54:29
  Jon: That's it.
• 54:30
  That's, that's the entirety.
• 54:32
  Ryan: This person
• 54:33
  Jon: That's the entirety.
• 54:34
  Ryan: no
• 54:34
  Jon: The,
• 54:34
  Kearns: Didn't,
• 54:35
  Jon: I mean, listen here, here's what I would say about this review.
• 54:41
  How is it the worst horror movie you've ever seen?
• 54:44
  But it had a couple of good moments.
• 54:46
  The worst horror movies I've ever seen had zero good moments.
• 54:50
  Ryan: Zombie Halloween.
• 54:51
  Two.
• 54:51
  Just saying just,
• 54:54
  Kearns: with that.
• 54:55
  Ryan: just.
• 54:56
  Kearns: cool with crapping on Rob Zombie again this week.
• 54:59
  Jon: Listen.
• 55:01
  Listen, Rob, Rob, zombie doesn't even, he is not even in the same universe
• 55:07
  as some of the worst ones I've seen.
• 55:09
  horny teenagers must
• 55:11
  Kearns: Perish.
• 55:12
  Jon: cease to exist.
• 55:13
  Kearns: There it is.
• 55:14
  There it is.
• 55:15
  Ryan: Disappear
• 55:16
  Kearns: to do, Ryan, I hope you're up for this because it, we're gonna have to put
• 55:20
  a beep in like the old days, like, boop.
• 55:22
  Ryan: beep.
• 55:25
  Kearns: That'll be
• 55:25
  Ryan: Follow the
• 55:26
  Jon: All right.
• 55:26
  Ryan: ball.
• 55:28
  Jon: And if, if you thought that one star person didn't like
• 55:31
  the stuff, here's a half star.
• 55:35
  It's banal, it's bad.
• 55:37
  It doesn't make any sense.
• 55:39
  It can be treated as satire, but it's a very bad taste.
• 55:43
  Satire.
• 55:45
  Ryan: How do they know how it tastes?
• 55:47
  Kearns: I feel like it's a good taste.
• 55:48
  Jon: I mean, he, I, I think he's licking movie covers.
• 55:51
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 55:52
  He's lick something.
• 55:53
  Ryan: the taste, not the stuff a half star.
• 55:57
  Jon: I think I,
• 55:57
  Kearns: All right.
• 55:58
  Ryan: Now
• 55:58
  Jon: is one I don't, I don't understand the bad reviews for like that bad.
• 56:04
  Ryan: I don't get it.
• 56:05
  Kearns: just It's not a fair assessment.
• 56:08
  I'm not saying it's the greatest movie I've ever seen
• 56:10
  or anything, but it was, damn.
• 56:11
  It was a fun ride.
• 56:12
  Jon: Yeah.
• 56:13
  Ryan: Oh yeah.
• 56:14
  Jon: Yeah.
• 56:14
  Ryan: And underrated
• 56:15
  Jon: what do you guys think?
• 56:18
  Kearns: who goes first, Ryan, you or me.
• 56:20
  Ryan: I'll go first.
• 56:21
  I, you know, first time watch and you know, out of five I'd give it a
• 56:28
  out of five.
• 56:31
  I'll say that, um, hits all the beats correctly.
• 56:34
  It's a fun movie.
• 56:36
  It does.
• 56:36
  The job characters are like, like the characters, you're rooting for 'em,
• 56:42
  you're happy when the bad guys get it.
• 56:45
  It's, done right.
• 56:48
  You know, I think it's a b movie.
• 56:50
  Um, de acting is a little choppy at parts, but that's what makes it fun.
• 56:56
  And I love Mo.
• 56:58
  I want Mo Mo.
• 56:59
  All right.
• 57:00
  I want a sequel.
• 57:01
  All right.
• 57:02
  I want the taste, but it was good.
• 57:05
  So 3.75 out of five.
• 57:07
  Kearns: I was gonna say three five.
• 57:08
  I'll stick to it for all the reasons Ryan said, but I'm not gonna repeat them.
• 57:13
  Ryan: No, repeat them.
• 57:14
  Kearns: it's a good movie.
• 57:15
  It's a good movie.
• 57:16
  Jon: I am way above you guys on this one.
• 57:18
  Ryan: Ooh, what, what was
• 57:20
  Jon: Way above.
• 57:21
  This is a, this is a 4.5 for me.
• 57:23
  Ryan: say five.
• 57:24
  Outta five.
• 57:24
  I was like,
• 57:25
  Jon: It's not, I, I could argue that if I just go purely on my expectation
• 57:32
  scale, it is a five, but I'll go 4.5.
• 57:35
  I love this movie.
• 57:37
  Like, I've loved this movie from the first time I saw it, even
• 57:40
  when I didn't understand all the anti-consumerism elements.
• 57:44
  Even like, I've always, I didn't understand all the jokes.
• 57:48
  It's just always hit me exactly where I want that movie to hit me.
• 57:53
  It's funny, it's well produced.
• 57:56
  It's the, the practical effects are mostly on point.
• 58:01
  There's like, we, you brought up the tanker truck.
• 58:04
  There was, you know, there's a moment in there where it's a little.
• 58:08
  Little not great, but it's like 4.5.
• 58:13
  The stuff is a 4.5.
• 58:15
  Ryan: two scenes real quick, as you've mentioned with the
• 58:17
  green screen, and I get it,
• 58:19
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 58:19
  Ryan: it works so well for the movie where it's
• 58:21
  Jon: Yeah.
• 58:22
  I mean, it works.
• 58:23
  Yeah.
• 58:23
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 58:23
  It's like, it's not one of those, like, you're like, uh, it's like,
• 58:27
  okay, I see what you're doing.
• 58:28
  Bravo.
• 58:30
  I can applaud this.
• 58:32
  It's like, it's fun.
• 58:34
  It's not like, uh, this is
• 58:36
  Jon: Yeah.
• 58:36
  Ryan: It's like, okay, cool.
• 58:38
  All right, let's have fun.
• 58:39
  Let's enjoy this film.
• 58:40
  I'm in it.
• 58:42
  Jon: Yeah.
• 58:44
  And that, that's just what the stuff has to be is fun
• 58:47
  Ryan: Yep.
• 58:48
  Kearns: it
• 58:48
  Jon: it
• 58:49
  Kearns: That's a great way to roll into our top fives, my friends.
• 58:52
  Ryan: Top fives.
• 58:53
  Oh my God.
• 58:53
  Top fives.
• 58:55
  You know what?
• 58:56
  With top fives, we're gonna make it a little fun.
• 58:58
  More fun, because tonight I am covering actors who've played
• 59:04
  mobsters in horror movies in honor of Paul Serino in Danny Aiello.
• 59:10
  And we're gonna start off with one of my favorite, uh, I couldn't find
• 59:14
  Pauly walnuts, but I got Robert Dero.
• 59:18
  Kearns: Paul from Goods.
• 59:19
  Ryan: Pauly.
• 59:19
  Oh, I
• 59:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 59:20
  Ryan: Walnuts.
• 59:21
  I went Sopranos way.
• 59:23
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 59:24
  Ryan: Henry.
• 59:24
  Henry, you gotta go.
• 59:26
  Alright, but we're gonna start, actually, this actor was in
• 59:29
  Goodfellas and that's Robert De Niro.
• 59:31
  And we're gonna start off with 1990 fours Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
• 59:36
  not exactly Ermo Del Toros Frankenstein.
• 59:39
  It's Kenneth Branas Frankenstein.
• 59:41
  And he does it, Give a little background.
• 59:45
  We already get Bram Stoker's Dracula, Francis Ford Coppola,
• 59:48
  Kenneth Brianna comes out and he goes, gonna do Frankenstein.
• 59:52
  He gets a screenplay written by Steph Lady Frank Debo.
• 59:56
  He gets De Niro as the monster.
• 59:58
  Um, Helena Bon m Carter as the lead the bride.
• 1:00:06
  I know, like
• 1:00:08
  Jon: I love her.
• 1:00:09
  Ryan: go wrong with this movie.
• 1:00:10
  It's a, it's a good movie.
• 1:00:13
  What Helena,
• 1:00:15
  Kearns: Yeah, you keep going.
• 1:00:16
  Ryan: love Hele.
• 1:00:17
  Kearns: I don't wanna extend this.
• 1:00:18
  Ryan: No, it's okay.
• 1:00:18
  But it goes into number four.
• 1:00:20
  Number four, it's based on one of my favorite, novels, written by Agatha
• 1:00:25
  Christie called, and then there were none it features Ray Liotta, who of course in
• 1:00:31
  mobster movies, Goodfellas, uh, famously and its identity actually starring John
• 1:00:36
  AK as well as Amanda, Pete Albert Molina.
• 1:00:39
  Kearns: on this podcast
• 1:00:40
  Ryan: we have, I love identity.
• 1:00:42
  It's just, you know, the not to, I don't not gonna spoil anything
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  'cause we probably spoiled it before.
• 1:00:48
  Watch that episode, go through our archive.
• 1:00:51
  Have fun.
• 1:00:52
  But the psychology of, in how it builds up and how they utilize Agatha
• 1:00:56
  Christie's story and flip it in a way, it's very unique always stuck
• 1:01:02
  with me since it's come out in 2003, which leads to my number three.
• 1:01:08
  It doesn't star, but it co-stars an actor who played a mobster,
• 1:01:12
  and that's James Gal Feeney.
• 1:01:15
  always remember, time is on your side and that's fallen.
• 1:01:19
  I love that movie.
• 1:01:20
  You know, we've mentioned it before.
• 1:01:23
  It's just good, you know, stay away from people too.
• 1:01:27
  'cause something might be transferring from one spot to another.
• 1:01:30
  But this movie I haven't mentioned yet on the podcast.
• 1:01:34
  No, definitely not.
• 1:01:35
  COVID.
• 1:01:39
  Well, really,
• 1:01:40
  Jon: What do you think would've happened to that demon during COVID?
• 1:01:43
  Ryan: I probably would've made it,
• 1:01:44
  Kearns: would've been, he would've, uh, stuck in, stayed inside, right?
• 1:01:48
  He can stay in for a long time.
• 1:01:51
  Ryan: like does a hibernation thing, right?
• 1:01:55
  Kearns: I think he can stay in one host for a bit, can't he?
• 1:01:57
  Ryan: Well, according,
• 1:01:59
  Kearns: Oh, you don't remember.
• 1:01:59
  John doesn't
• 1:02:00
  Ryan: according to the ending of the film, he does, you
• 1:02:02
  know, he gets stuck in the cat.
• 1:02:04
  So, and he's look.
• 1:02:06
  Kearns: can walk back.
• 1:02:08
  how he gets back out of the woods.
• 1:02:10
  'cause he can't be floating around for a while.
• 1:02:12
  Then he gets banished to wherever.
• 1:02:14
  Ryan: It's such a good, I'm gonna have to watch that.
• 1:02:16
  Well, number two, this is gonna be, I think, I believe a first,
• 1:02:20
  I haven't mentioned this film.
• 1:02:21
  we need some Al Pacino on this list, talking about actors who are mobsters.
• 1:02:26
  It's one of my favorites.
• 1:02:27
  It's 1997, the devil's advocate.
• 1:02:30
  I've, it's so good.
• 1:02:33
  The idea of like, you know,
• 1:02:36
  in like the illusion of Paradise loss, Dante Inferno, the false legend, the
• 1:02:42
  lore of making the deal with the devil, and not only seeing, I've seen it,
• 1:02:47
  um, three times and the first time was just to watch it for enjoyment.
• 1:02:52
  But the other two times was like, as a study and that movie, there's
• 1:02:56
  a lot of curves and each time you watch it, you see something new or
• 1:03:00
  you get something new out of it too.
• 1:03:03
  Not only from.
• 1:03:04
  Kearns: At least they're on
• 1:03:05
  Ryan: You get a lot outta her.
• 1:03:07
  Kearns: every time.
• 1:03:09
  Ryan: I'll say this, this one takes the cake.
• 1:03:11
  'cause we started with De Niro and we're gonna end with De Niro.
• 1:03:15
  And no, it's not Cape Fear.
• 1:03:17
  I don't consider that a horror film.
• 1:03:18
  I consider Angel Heart a horror film.
• 1:03:22
  Love Angel Heart.
• 1:03:23
  I've waved the flag many of times.
• 1:03:26
  I recommend people to watch it.
• 1:03:28
  So good stars.
• 1:03:30
  Lisa Bonnet.
• 1:03:31
  Lisa Bonnet, Charlotte Rampling.
• 1:03:34
  Kearns: said you almost did Lisa Benet
• 1:03:36
  Ryan: I know, I almost did.
• 1:03:37
  I caught myself though.
• 1:03:39
  Jon: It is her older si, her older sister.
• 1:03:41
  Kearns: let you get away with that.
• 1:03:44
  Ryan: Caught myself.
• 1:03:46
  Kearns: All right.
• 1:03:47
  Ryan: But that's my top five.
• 1:03:49
  Um, go watch Angel Heart.
• 1:03:51
  Stop being dweebs.
• 1:03:53
  Go watch Angel Heart
• 1:03:54
  Kearns: Go watch Angel Heart.
• 1:03:55
  John, you're top five.
• 1:03:58
  Jon: All right.
• 1:03:58
  I went with um, top five Killer Foods.
• 1:04:02
  Ryan: Tomatoes.
• 1:04:03
  Better be on this.
• 1:04:05
  Jon: Number five, red dye.
• 1:04:08
  Number three.
• 1:04:10
  Kearns: Is that like just the what they banned in Europe?
• 1:04:12
  Or is there a movie?
• 1:04:15
  Jon: I'll just have to wait and see.
• 1:04:16
  Strongly linked to cancer in lab animals, but don't worry, it's only in candles.
• 1:04:21
  Icings sprinkles, puddings, strawberry milk, frozen yogurt,
• 1:04:25
  Marino, Sherry, some hot dogs, bacon bits, some vegan meat substitutes.
• 1:04:29
  Nerds finally banned in the us, but not in effect until 2027.
• 1:04:34
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  To give people time.
• 1:04:36
  Wait,
• 1:04:36
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  Kearns: real stuff.
• 1:04:38
  Ryan: Wait,
• 1:04:39
  Kearns: Oh, this is depressing.
• 1:04:40
  Ryan: on.
• 1:04:40
  Kearns: cool.
• 1:04:41
  Let's keep this going.
• 1:04:42
  Ryan: Oh, this is real.
• 1:04:42
  Oh God, no.
• 1:04:44
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  'cause that is true.
• 1:04:45
  Everything John just said is true.
• 1:04:48
  Oh,
• 1:04:49
  Jon: four, Kasu marzo
• 1:04:52
  Ryan: What
• 1:04:54
  Jon: maggot cheese.
• 1:04:55
  Kearns: No thank you.
• 1:04:57
  Jon: put this one on because I stumbled on this and you guys have to hear it.
• 1:05:01
  If I had to read about it.
• 1:05:02
  Kearns: We're
• 1:05:02
  Jon: The maggots, they put maggots in the cheese, the maggots poop, and gradually
• 1:05:07
  turn the cheese into an almost liquid.
• 1:05:09
  It becomes extremely dangerous if the maggots are dead because then
• 1:05:14
  it's spoiled and you will be too.
• 1:05:17
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 1:05:17
  Gross.
• 1:05:19
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 1:05:20
  Jon: three, fugu
• 1:05:22
  Ryan: What?
• 1:05:23
  Jon: a blowfish dish.
• 1:05:26
  It could be more dangerous than cyanide and can only be
• 1:05:29
  prepared by well-trained chefs.
• 1:05:32
  Ryan: Fugu?
• 1:05:34
  Jon: Fugu, FUGU.
• 1:05:35
  Ryan: know that's a Simpsons episode.
• 1:05:37
  Not even joking.
• 1:05:38
  Jon: It is.
• 1:05:39
  Ryan: Eats the
• 1:05:39
  Jon: is.
• 1:05:39
  Yep.
• 1:05:40
  Ryan: It's a good
• 1:05:41
  Jon: Poison fish.
• 1:05:41
  Poison fish.
• 1:05:42
  Fish.
• 1:05:42
  Poison fish.
• 1:05:43
  Ryan: Poison
• 1:05:45
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:05:46
  number two, AKI fruit.
• 1:05:49
  Un ripened.
• 1:05:50
  It contains hypoglycemia A, which can cause severe vomiting and even death.
• 1:05:56
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 1:05:57
  Jon: And number one, oh shit, I realized they did the wrong list.
• 1:06:01
  Kearns: We do Roundup.
• 1:06:03
  Jon: Number one, Ji.
• 1:06:07
  It's a squid dish that presents a choking hazard less thoroughly chewed
• 1:06:13
  because the tentacles can move and cling.
• 1:06:15
  Causing suffocation
• 1:06:17
  Ryan: it's alive.
• 1:06:18
  Kearns: still the
• 1:06:19
  Jon: a no, no, not really, but the, oh, guys, guys, that was the wrong list.
• 1:06:24
  I'm sorry, I've, that was my just plain Killer foods movie.
• 1:06:29
  My plain killer foods list.
• 1:06:31
  I have a killer food in movies list too.
• 1:06:35
  Kearns: Sweet.
• 1:06:37
  Jon: Number five,
• 1:06:38
  Kearns: You bastards.
• 1:06:41
  Jon: Hannibal.
• 1:06:42
  And The food in Hannibal is Paul's brain.
• 1:06:46
  Kearns: Mm-hmm.
• 1:06:47
  Ryan: it is.
• 1:06:49
  Jon: Kler is a jerk to Clarice through the entire movie, which doesn't endear
• 1:06:53
  him to the titular serial killer.
• 1:06:55
  Kearns: Speaking of gangsters, by the way, tie into him, it's Ray tta
• 1:06:58
  Jon: It is Ray Liotta.
• 1:07:00
  so he kidnaps him, performs a craniotomy and serves his brain to Clarice,
• 1:07:05
  minus the fava beans in nice chiante
• 1:07:07
  Kearns: while he's still alive.
• 1:07:08
  Jon: and to himself.
• 1:07:09
  Yep.
• 1:07:10
  Ryan: that whole movie, that was the most unnerving scene I feel, where I was like,
• 1:07:14
  Jon: You know what?
• 1:07:15
  That you want that whole franchise?
• 1:07:17
  I think that's the most unnerving sequence.
• 1:07:20
  Like, that's just,
• 1:07:21
  Ryan: would take the
• 1:07:21
  Jon: that's rough.
• 1:07:22
  Ryan: the face when he peels the guy's face.
• 1:07:25
  Kearns: watch,
• 1:07:26
  Ryan: I would take that one over that
• 1:07:27
  Jon: don't know.
• 1:07:28
  Ryan: overall.
• 1:07:29
  Jon: Maybe, maybe,
• 1:07:32
  Kearns: neither.
• 1:07:32
  Jon: four, ghost ship.
• 1:07:36
  Ryan: Oh,
• 1:07:37
  Jon: ship it is the rat poison soup.
• 1:07:39
  Kearns: Oh.
• 1:07:41
  Jon: Probably most notable for the opening scene of a ballroom full of
• 1:07:44
  revelers being sliced by a wire ghost ship also offs a number of passengers
• 1:07:50
  with a soup full of rat poison.
• 1:07:53
  Ryan: Do you like?
• 1:07:54
  Kearns: to go.
• 1:07:54
  Cyanide is rough, dude.
• 1:07:56
  Ryan: Do you guys enjoy that movie?
• 1:07:57
  'cause I feel that's an underrated movie.
• 1:08:00
  Jon: I like parts of it.
• 1:08:01
  I like parts of it.
• 1:08:03
  Kearns: fine.
• 1:08:04
  Jon: number three, we're gonna go to 1990 and the TV movie It,
• 1:08:09
  Ryan: Ooh.
• 1:08:10
  Jon: and it's the Fortune Cookies Boys.
• 1:08:13
  Kearns: I knew.
• 1:08:13
  Jon: Uh, the enjoyable post Chinese meal ritual of the fortune cookie is ruined
• 1:08:20
  as Pennywise torches the adult losers with horrific versions filled with
• 1:08:25
  blood, an eyeball, a roach, and a crab.
• 1:08:29
  Almost enough to make you never want to find out your lucky numbers
• 1:08:32
  and a vague prediction ever again.
• 1:08:36
  Ryan: You know, it's not vague.
• 1:08:37
  Tim Curry's still alive.
• 1:08:39
  I just wanna put that out there.
• 1:08:40
  Jon: And Curry is still alive.
• 1:08:42
  Kearns: Still alive,
• 1:08:44
  Jon: number four, it's a simple pizza, right, guys?
• 1:08:48
  Nightmare on Elm Street.
• 1:08:49
  Four.
• 1:08:50
  The Dream Master except Freddy's, back to get the remaining dream warrior
• 1:08:56
  in the fourth installment directed by Renny Harlan, which I don't think
• 1:09:00
  I knew until I was researching this.
• 1:09:02
  in one of the more memorable scenes, Freddy enjoys a pizza with the heads of
• 1:09:05
  his victims in the shape of meatballs.
• 1:09:08
  he loves soul food.
• 1:09:11
  Kearns: Hmm.
• 1:09:13
  Ryan: What a meatball
• 1:09:13
  Kearns: a tough scene for me to watch too.
• 1:09:14
  When I was younger, I remember that being very disturbing,
• 1:09:17
  Ryan: you
• 1:09:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:09:18
  Ryan: would say,
• 1:09:18
  Kearns: them
• 1:09:19
  Ryan: okay, fair.
• 1:09:20
  I would say the bug scene always got me in that movie crushes her.
• 1:09:27
  Kearns: A hard
• 1:09:27
  Jon: And Ryan.
• 1:09:28
  Ryan, you almost stole my number one there, bud.
• 1:09:32
  Number one, attack of the Killer Donuts.
• 1:09:38
  Ryan: Oh.
• 1:09:39
  Ooh.
• 1:09:41
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Kearns: ball, everybody.
• 1:09:43
  Jon: a serum that reanimate the dead accidentally gets mixed into donuts
• 1:09:48
  producing, nasty killer donuts.
• 1:09:50
  A small group must band together to save their town from these
• 1:09:54
  pissed off pint sized pastries.
• 1:09:57
  And you get a, see Thomas Howell cameo in this one.
• 1:10:01
  Kearns: Nice.
• 1:10:02
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  Ryan: munchkins.
• 1:10:05
  Kearns: That's, that should be the sequel if they
• 1:10:09
  Jon: There should be a sequel.
• 1:10:10
  It's really low rated and I think people just missed on this one.
• 1:10:13
  Like, it's, it's good fun.
• 1:10:17
  Ryan: All right.
• 1:10:18
  Kearns: Right?
• 1:10:18
  Good.
• 1:10:19
  Top five guys.
• 1:10:20
  That was the stuff.
• 1:10:22
  Ryan: Yes, it was.
• 1:10:23
  tried the
• 1:10:24
  Jon: was the stuff man?
• 1:10:27
  Kearns: It
• 1:10:27
  Jon: you can't get enough, if you can't get enough of the stuff,
• 1:10:31
  there's a great release from Arrow.
• 1:10:34
  Pick it up.
• 1:10:35
  Ryan: Can't get enough.
• 1:10:36
  Kearns: it even though it doesn't benefit us in any way.
• 1:10:39
  Jon: Not in the least.
• 1:10:41
  Kearns: See you next week,
• 1:10:42
  Ryan: Have a good one.
• 1:10:44
  Jon: See ya.